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(TENSE STRING MUSIC PLAYING)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

ALEX JONES:

This is a show trial,

and we're gonna show

all that in there.

All lies, all lies.

This is a kangaroo court,

this is political action,

it's a witch hunt.

I'll be back later.

NEIL HESLIN: It's about

the damage that was done to me.

Jones was repeating these lies.

I was accused of being part

of a government conspiracy.

None of it's true.

All I did was lose my son.

He was brutally m*rder*d

and sh*t and k*lled

in his first-grade classroom.

And I have to deal

with this abuse

by a loudmouth with a blowhorn?

COURT CLERK: All rise.

459th District Court

is now in session.

The Honorable Judge

Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.

SCARLETT LEWIS: Alex Jones

chose to continue to seed

and perpetrate lies

that Sandy Hook never happened.

Making sh*t up.

I mean, it's... it's fake.

I... The whole thing is just...

SCARLETT: That's how

Alex Jones runs his empire,

and I think that that needs

to be stopped.

MARK BANKSTON:

This is Neil and Scarlett.

Mr. Jones has robbed

Neil and Scarlett

of the time they needed to heal

over the violent death

of their son, Jesse.

People thought of Infowars

as a fringe organization.

But at the height of its powers,

more people

were watching Infowars

at any given time than CNN.

What you have to remember

is that Mr. Jones for ten years

intentionally lied

that the sh**ting was fake

or a government-led plot.

This is the most egregious

case of defamation

in American history.

ANDINO REYNAL:

Mr. Jones has been canceled.

And I believe

in every American's right

to choose what they listen to

and what they believe.

NEIL: It's got to be known

that Alex Jones is a liar.

If it came to a knock-down,

drag-out fight

in the Travis County Courthouse,

that's what it's gonna be.

I do.

Alex Jones will meet me

face to face.

(MUSIC CONCLUDES)

ALEX: Hello, Austin, Texas.

I'm Alex Jones,

and you're watching

Exposing Mass Media.

ALEX: That's what

we've got to talk about.

I've got quite a few programs

that you'll see live

here on Austin Community

Access Centre.

The simple way

the world works, okay?

RUSSELL DOWDEN:

We always looked up to him.

The guy that started out,

you know, 22 years old

in public access television.

When I fear something,

I go after it!

Makeup, lovey, makeup.

RUSSELL: Public Access in Austin

is a bit of a cultural

phenomenon unto itself,

and it's one of the oldest

in the country.

You know,

there was a lot of freedom

to the programming

that was available,

but it was shared

all over the US.

GREG ERICSON:

You're on the air.

RUSSELL: There was guys

that would come on there

and talk about serious

political issues

with a toilet bowl ring

wrapped around their neck.

Now, there's somebody

a lot smarter than I am, see?

I wouldn't say in all of it

being conspiratorial,

but it was a very

free-thinking forum.

Hail Satan.

Righteously, mother...

I come on public access

and hang out.

I'm on 24 hours a day, they say.

CALLER: (CHUCKLES)

Yeah, very... pretty close.

Well, I can assure you

I don't make any money

off public access.

But Alex eventually stood out

as he got thicker skin.

It hasn't stopped!

(OVERLAPPING ARGUING)

RUSSELL: His ability to capture

that audience, it's impressive.

You watched

because you didn't know

what the guy was gonna

say next. You didn't know.

(CACKLES) We love you,

we're the government.

CALLER: That's what scares me.

We're smiling-faced bureaucrats.

Ooh!

He was f*cking hilarious, man.

He would rant and rave,

and there'd be times

when he'd blow up

and get red faced

and started spitting.

It was absolutely hilarious,

entertaining as hell.

I'm sorry for you.

The thing that really

caught my attention

was when he was pointing out

that there was fluoride

in the baby water.

'Cause he's like,

"Oh, they're putting fluoride,

the poison into the baby water.

Oh! Just for the baby."

He'd do his entire antics.

And it caught my attention.

I was like, "Yeah,

why are they putting fluoride

in the baby water?"

I don't want to see

the baby get poisoned, you know.

It's hard to be an awake person.

I was totally hooked.

Look at this.

JOSH OWENS: My friend leaned

over to me, and he was like,

"You know, if you've ever looked

at your toothpaste,

and it says, if you swallow

more than a pea-sized amount,

call Poison Control.

Why do you think they put that

in the water supply?"

"No idea, I don't know."

And he's like,

"Well, it's mind control."

ALEX: We have been predicting

this nightmarish development

for years.

Either the government

actually carried out

this bombing themselves,

or, ladies and gentlemen,

they allowed t*rrorists

to engage in this

sinister activity.

RUSSELL:

He started getting a following.

And I think after 9/11,

his... his listenership

and audience grew.

ALEX: Look at that,

ladies and gentlemen.

Look at it drop from demolitions

in the bottom.

CHRISTOPHER JORDAN:

He'd gone from local broadcast

to national broadcast.

He became four hours a day,

six days a week.

There was never a...

"Hey, here's

the production meeting

in the morning."

It was as organic

as you could get.

I came in, two, three hours

before everyone else,

and started printing

news stories.

There was one stack

that was the juice.

Boom.

And he would just freeform.

Here's the headline.

"Fukushima radioactive wave

has already hit California."

It's taken two plus years

for that to get here.

I mean, it was like

that with him.

He got an idea,

and he wanted you

to go do it right then.

It was, "You're going to drive

all along the coast

of California and do a reading.

And post a video, immediately."

They're doing their various

readings at this moment.

And from what I'm told,

Adan, we still have

15 microrems, is that correct?

We found, specifically,

that there were not

high radiation levels.

We get a call and they're like,

"Jones is furious.

Stop posting these videos

saying that

there aren't high levels

of radiation in California."

ALEX: Radiation levels

have more than doubled

in the last 60 years and...

JOSH: Jones started selling

his first privately labeled

supplement.

Infowars Life,

which was an iodine supplement.

Talking about Fukushima,

I realized in the last segment

that I've only taken it

this morning,

I take it twice a day

as recommended.

He somehow turned

some geopolitical story

into a need for a supplement.

When Jones started getting

so mad at us

for posting those videos,

it was, "Oh, okay.

We did come here

to sell a product."

ALEX:

The government will not tell you

that during increased

radiation levels,

you need more iodine

to protect the thyroid.

They will not tell you this.

Did we think

he wanted us to lie?

Yeah, it was obvious.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

MARK BARDEN:

On that Friday morning,

I hear little footsteps

running up behind me.

And it's little Daniel.

We got on this couch

right behind me here, and...

I said, "You know,

it's not even daylight yet.

You have time if you wanna

go back to bed

and sleep a little more."

And he said, "No, Dad,

let's cuddle on the couch.

We'll have time

for cuddling this way."

And Daniel says,

"Dad, look at how you can see

the reflection

of our Christmas tree lights

in the window with that

beautiful sunrise behind it."

So, I said,

"You know what? You're right,

I'm going to go get the camera."

I have a picture

of that sunrise that morning

with the Christmas tree lights

reflecting in the window.

And I really wish

I'd turned the camera round

and taken a picture of him.

(SIGHS)

ALISSA PARKER: For our church,

we were preparing for this

big Christmas party

that we were having,

and they were doing

this nativity scene.

And Emilie was going to be

an angel at this nativity scene.

She was awake and she was

sitting on the edge of her bed

waiting for seven o'clock

to happen. (CHUCKLES)

I got a chance to just

sit next to her

and give her a hug and tell her

how much I loved her,

and that wasn't something

that I got to do very often

before I went to work.

NEIL: "Come on, Jess.

We gotta get up

and get ready to go to school."

He got up and, um...

was poking around,

poking along, dogging along.

And my mind was contemplating

whether to send him

to school that day.

But it was class project day.

We were each going to make

a gingerbread house.

The only reason

I think I sent him was because

we were supposed to make

those stupid gingerbread houses.

I really...

I think often about that.

And I walked him

into the school.

He was holding my hand

and he darted

into the classroom.

And that was the last I saw him.

Alive, anyway.

Forty-five minutes later,

we started to get

the text messages.

(PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES)

(MUSIC CONCLUDES)

DANIEL JEWISS:

Unfortunately, sometimes,

when evil walks in your door,

and you only have

a short amount of time,

there wasn't much

that they could do.

(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)

JEWISS: His first sh**ting

is the eight rounds

that he sh**t

through that window

at the front of the building.

He then makes entrance

into the lobby.

Upon hearing the commotion,

the school principal,

Dawn Hochsprung, gets up

and heads to the door.

She tells her people

to stay put,

uh, but they don't listen

to her, right.

Mary Sherlach, the psychologist,

is actually right on her heels.

And they start to make their way

down the hallway

towards the lobby,

when they're sh*t and k*lled.

(PHONE RINGING)

DISPATCHER: Newtown 911, what's

the location of your emergency?

SECRETARY: Sandy Hook school.

I think somebody's got a g*n.

I caught a glimpse of somebody.

They're running

down the hallway.

(PANTING)

JEWISS: The first 911 call,

I estimate that that's probably

about a minute and a half

after the sh**ting

actually begins.

TEACHER:

We're in the classroom,

and my children are just scared,

and we wanted to know an update.

- (CHILD TALKING)

- (TEACHER SHUSHES)

JEWISS: He continues

down the hallway,

and I believe that

the first room that he goes into

is classroom ten.

And some of them

start to react and move.

It's more difficult

than it looks like

to actually sh**t somebody,

especially somebody

that's moving.

There are several students

that are able to escape

from that room.

In each one of these classrooms

there's a small bathroom,

and two of the students actually

take up hiding in the bathroom.

He sh**t and kills the teacher,

Victoria Soto,

and the teacher's aide,

Anne Marie Murphy.

Uh, Anne Marie

was still clutching the student

that she took care of,

Dylan Hockley,

who was also k*lled.

And he also k*lled Jesse Lewis,

Avielle Richman,

Allison Wyatt, and Olivia Engel.

I then believe

that he leaves classroom ten

and goes into classroom eight.

And again, now by this time,

this classroom has the ability

to have reacted,

to gather into what they believe

would be a safe location.

In this case, they've chosen

that very small bathroom

that's in the far-left corner

of their classroom.

All the kids are able

to get into that bathroom,

but the two adults aren't

and they're standing

just outside.

And when he walks in there,

he sh**t and kills

the substitute teacher,

Lauren Rousseau,

and the behavior specialist

that was in that room,

Rachel D'Avino.

They both gave their lives

trying to protect those kids.

And he also kills

Daniel Barden, Charlotte Bacon,

Josephine Gay, Madeleine Hsu,

Catherine Hubbard,

Chase Kowalski,

James Mattioli,

Ana Marquez-Greene,

Grace McDonnell, Jack Pinto,

Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi,

Emilie Parker, Jessica Rekos,

and Benjamin Wheeler.

There's... There's one survivor

in that group of kids

that are in the bathroom,

and she just, miraculously,

was not struck.

I believe in that room

he fires about 80 rounds.

They're aimed sh*ts

at extremely close range.

He's squeezing

the trigger rapidly.

Then I believe that he actually

then walks back

to classroom ten.

He's fired two rounds

with the 10mm,

one goes up into the ceiling

and he puts the su1c1de sh*t

into his head.

From when he starts sh**ting

to when he commits su1c1de,

the whole incident ends up

being about six minutes.

(MUSIC FADES)

(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)

SECRETARY: Good morning.

Uh, this message

is for Sandy Hook parents only.

At this time, if you have not

already done so,

you may go

to the Sandy Hook firehouse

and pick up your child.

All other Newtown schools

remain in lockdown.

Thank you.

(LINE DISCONNECTS)

SCARLETT: Nothing can ever

happen to your child...

so I really wasn't even

that worried, frankly.

NEIL:

I walked to the firehouse first.

And then, by that time,

Scarlett had gotten there

and we... we still

couldn't find Jesse.

SCARLETT:

I walked up to somebody

official-looking in a uniform,

and I said, "I'm looking

for my son, Jesse Lewis."

They said,

"If you can't find him,

put his name down on a list."

There was a long list,

and never in a million years

did I think

that all of those people

were dead.

A police officer walked up to me

and said,

"Did Jesse have any

identifying marks on his body?"

(SNIFFS) And... he did.

He had a little mole

on the top of his right foot.

(SNIFFS) So,

I thought to myself...

"That's not a good sign."

(SIGHS)

NEIL: And it must have been

around three o'clock,

I remember Governor Malloy

getting up, making a speech.

I remember speaking up, saying,

"Are there any survivors

left in the school?

Is anybody alive

that is missing?"

And he didn't answer

the question,

and I asked it a couple of times

and he finally said...

Put his head down

and said,

"No, there's no survivors."

(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)

NICOLE HOCKLEY: I was able to

see him before we cremated him.

And they instructed me,

you know, um, "Don't touch him

except for his hands

because you won't like

what you feel."

He was, um, in the arms

of Anne Marie,

his special education assistant.

They said the way

that their bodies were found,

him on his back with the knees

and her arms around him,

that she had been trying

to protect him.

I know from the autopsy report

that some of, um,

the fragments from her body

were actually lodged into his,

because of the impact

of the b*ll*ts.

SCARLETT:

I held his hand for hours...

until it got warm.

It... it almost felt

like a live hand,

and I looked at the fingernails,

and the fingernails

still had dirt...

(SNIFFS) ...under them.

LENNY POZNER:

He was in the funeral home.

His face was, um,

covered with a cloth

from his nose down.

We were told

that he has an injury there,

and it's better to keep

a cloth over his mouth.

I kissed his forehead,

and it was very cold,

and not the same sensation

as the thousands of times

I've kissed him on his forehead,

so it was... um...

very shocking.

NOAH POZNER: (ON VIDEO)

defeated the Goblin,

and the Goblin was still...

he was fighting back

and still alive...

VERONIQUE DE LA ROSA: He had

just turned six, and, um...

(NOAH CONTINUES SPEAKING)

VERONIQUE: I would hear him.

I would see him

out of the corner of my eye,

but he was never really there.

And I just kind of willed myself

to see him running in the snow

with his jacket on,

coming towards the house...

(SNIFFS)

and telling me

that he had gotten away...

from the sh**t.

(MUSIC FADES)

ALEX: Ladies and gentlemen,

it is Friday.

Thank you so much

for joining us the 14th day

of December 2012,

and there is a reported

school sh**ting in Connecticut,

one of the states

that has draconian restrictions

on g*n ownership.

BANKSTON: Mr. Jones, I want

to show you some video clips

of some things you were saying

as news broke of Sandy Hook.

And in a video that day

that you titled

"Connecticut School m*ssacre

Looks Like False Flag,

Says Witnesses."

Can you play the clip

"Day of Sandy Hook"?

(COUGHS)

And I said, "They are going

to come after our g*ns,

look for mass sh**t,"

and then magically it happens.

They are coming.

They are coming.

They are coming.

BANKSTON: You were

the first person in the world

to make the false flag theory

about Sandy Hook,

and you did it before the bodies

were even cold.

That's the truth.

- ATTORNEY: Objection.

- No, it's not true.

This is staged.

And you know I've been saying

the last few months,

get ready for big

mass sh**t.

BANKSTON:

From the very beginning,

Sandy Hook parents

have been asking you

to leave them alone, right?

I don't remember that

from the very beginning, no.

BANKSTON: Okay.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

ROBBIE PARKER:

It's just weird as a human being

to be in a position

where you feel like

you have zero hope

for anything anymore.

I just didn't know

how to respond,

we didn't know how to react.

Within hours,

on the first night,

I remember getting phone calls

from reporters,

and so I turned my phone off.

But I keep getting calls.

And so, I decided

that they weren't going to stop

until they found

somebody to talk to.

And so, I decided that

the best thing to do

was for me to give a statement,

because I figured

if I gave them something

that they could chew on

for a while,

then they would leave us alone.

ROBBIE:

The sh**ting was on Friday.

Saturday evening,

I gave the statement.

I'd never done

something like this.

All these bright lights

are on me,

and I can't see anybody,

and I just was kind of confused

and nervous,

and just kind of gave

this laugh, like,

"I don't know what to do here."

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING)

So, I've never done this before.

Do you guys

just want me to start?

- REPORTER: Yeah.

- Okay.

(SIGHS DEEPLY)

So, my name's Robbie Parker.

My family is one of the families

that lost a child yesterday

in the Sandy Hook

Elementary School sh**t

here in Connecticut.

I just wanted to share

about who my daughter was.

I had prepared something

that I wanted to share,

and so... I shared it.

Emilie was bright, creative,

and very loving.

Emilie was always willing

to try new things,

other than food.

There was no way

I could have done that.

It was really hard

for him to do that.

And he did it because of her,

because he was her father.

He wanted the world to know

that she was not

just this victim,

that she was this amazing kid.

That's when our world

turned upside down again.

We're going to, um...

play a clip from

a CNN press conference

with Robbie Parker.

It started...

Yeah, it started less than

48 hours after the sh**ting,

and then it just grew

exponentially from there.

ALEX: And then he walks up

like he's an actor,

and then breaks down on camera.

I mean, it's like,

"Ha ha ha, yeah, ha.

Oh, I read this card? Okay."

(FAKE CRIES)

I mean, it's like, "Whoa! Whoa!"

He does look

like a soap opera actor.

So, he's really smiling

and looks happy,

and all of a sudden, suddenly...

It looks totally fake.

This video is unbelievable.

We're just gonna post

the video...

and let you decide

what you think.

He needs to... I mean, maybe

he should explain it to us.

We need to analyze

all these videos now.

Heaven help us,

ladies and gentlemen.

Heaven help us.

I've never seen

anything like that.

ROBBIE:

It got vile very, very quickly.

Emilie's Memorial Facebook page

became inundated.

Like, "f*ck you, m*therf*cker."

And "I have your email,

I know where you live.

I have a g*n."

ALISSA: We would get emails.

We would get letters

sent to our home,

threatening us.

You know, just saying all sorts

of horrible things.

You know,

that Emilie was a whore,

that Emilie was alive.

Totally stomped on and trashed

the memory

of the six-year-old girl

who had done nothing in her life

to deserve any of that.

You know, I would see it

and I would just delete it,

I would see it

and I would delete it,

because I didn't want

to expose myself to it.

It was everywhere.

Websites set up to destroy him.

"Liar. Actor."

I remember getting on YouTube,

it wouldn't stop.

I could scroll and scroll

and just keep scrolling,

video after video after video

of him just being mocked.

It got to the point where it was

controlling my life in a way.

You got parents laughing,

going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"

and then going... (FAKE SOBS)

Method acting, going...

(FAKE SOBS)

(WHIMPERING) "Oh, my child!"

I mean, it's just ridiculous.

VERONIQUE:

I remember the funeral.

I went into a state of shock.

I was just on autopilot.

On Monday, there was a funeral

for six-year-old Noah Pozner.

I spoke with Noah's mother,

Veronique Pozner,

just a short time ago...

VERONIQUE:

I know that I did an interview

with Anderson Cooper

because it was

the autopilot part of me

that kind of wanted

to convey what just happened.

I'm grieving, that's all.

- Like we all are.

- Yeah.

- I wish you strength...

- Thank you.

- and peace in the days ahead.

- Thank you.

- I know it's hard. Yeah.

- Thank you. I'm going to need it. Thank you.

Now, a lot

of the tens of millions

of video views on YouTube

concerning the Sandy Hook hoax

surround CNN.

(TV STATIC)

ALEX: I saw this footage

where Anderson Cooper turns.

He's supposedly there

at Sandy Hook

in front of the memorial,

and his whole forehead

and nose blurs out.

I've been working

with blue screen for 17 years.

I know what it looks like.

It's clearly blue screen.

Somehow, that was a proof

that we were not actually

at that locale

and that image of the town hall

was being

artificially projected.

But the fact that this

whole thing could be staged,

it's just mind-blowing.

LENNY: It was a digital motion

glitch in the video,

and that glitch doesn't exist

in the original video.

That only exists in the hoaxer

version of the video.

(TV STATIC)

ALEX: Something though,

is really starting

to get suspicious here.

I mean, I'm sick of it

always being a conspiracy.

He rehashed

my "green screen" video

for over five years, relentlessly.

And you've got the green screens

with Anderson Cooper's nose

disappearing,

you've just... it just goes

on and on, on and on.

LENNY: Infowars were vilifying

the parents.

Anything that they can point

their finger at

to support their thesis.

So, Wolfgang,

recap the basic anomalies

and then give us what happened

in your new investigation.

Thank you, Wolfgang,

for joining us.

LENNY: And at that point,

Infowars had prompted up

Wolfgang Halbig

as this former

law enforcement person

who has experience

with school safety,

being this ultimate credible

authority on the topic.

I think something

would be wrong with us

not to question all these,

and then you look

at the green screens

and the... and just the lies

and the fake videos and...

And Halbig was denying

the tragedy.

Saying it did not happen.

(COMPUTER MOUSE CLICKS)

WOLFGANG HALBIG:

This is Leonard Pozner,

who's playing

the role of a parent

who lost a child at Sandy Hook.

There's Robbie Parker.

Now there is Emilie.

I think Emilie

is alive and well, doing good.

Sandy Hook, it's an illusion.

It was not real.

The first thing is,

why no trauma helicopters?

Think about it,

innocent children sh*t,

teachers sh*t.

And no trauma helicopters

respond?

You know,

doctors can be on board,

lifesaving, time of the essence.

And then, for us to learn

that they never allowed

any paramedics or EMTs

inside the school?

What the hell is that?

They were not allowed

inside that school, ever. Ever!

- ("RENEGADES OF FUNK" PLAYS)

- Since the prehistoric ages

And the days

Of ancient Greece...

Wolfgang W. Halbig.

WOLFGANG:

Then I got a phone call.

"Alex Jones would like

to talk to you."

I think he was trying

to get me to validate

what his thoughts were.

You know, he called me back

three more times, you know.

They're taking the g*ns away

from people in Connecticut,

and they're using Sandy Hook

as a nexus.

It's so obvious

they're using it to disarm us.

They admit it.

And it's just a total hoax.

Oh, he hammered it.

He was, you know.

He said, you know,

"Fake actors, green screen."

Oh, yeah, it was

a vicious att*ck, you know.

Uh, he said

"Nobody d*ed at Sandy Hook."

See, I never said that.

You're really sure, though,

nobody d*ed,

it was a total cut-out?

I'm telling you, nobody d*ed.

For people to be saying,

"This didn't happen.

It was a hoax,"

and then you start seeing

all the crazy things,

and it was just...

(CHUCKLES) What do you mean

this didn't happen?

When I woke up,

that's when I realized

there were no

trauma helicopters...

ALEX: You've got a bunch

of kids sh*t,

you don't even ask questions.

Default helicopters launch.

They didn't seem

to accept logic.

'Cause if you then

answered a question,

"Well, why this?

Why weren't people airlifted

to emergency rooms?"

"Well,

because they were all dead."

WOLFGANG: Who has a 99.9 percent

k*ll rate?

There isn't an FBI agent,

there isn't a Navy SEAL

that's that good of a sh*t

within eight minutes.

You don't get 99.99 k*ll rates.

It's just incredibly hard to do.

"How could, you know,

he have such a fantastic

sh**ting accuracy

that everyone d*ed?"

I don't know, you shove 15 kids

into a three-foot bathroom,

you're probably gonna have

really good accuracy.

WOLFGANG:

This is so well planned,

two, two and a half years,

millions of dollars invested.

Think about it,

you had to get

the entire community involved.

Really?

So a community of 28,000 people

were in on this?

That we were all pretending,

and all the pictures

and the experiences

of the school beforehand,

we fabricated this for years?

It's just...

It's totally ridiculous.

And yet, you know, here we are

all these years later,

and it still persists.

WOLFGANG:

And I'm gonna tell you what,

somebody will break,

and we're gonna break the story.

And we need your help,

we gotta be able

to go to Newtown.

ALEX: Absolutely.

We want to send reporters

up there, Wolfgang, with you.

BANKSTON:

In the spring of 2015...

(ALEX LAUGHS)

BANKSTON:

you sent this man to go

badger and yell obscenities

at Sandy Hook residents,

calling people who were involved

in Sandy Hook

"crooked, corrupt,

piece of sh*t, m*therf*ckers"

- You know who that is, right?

- ALEX: Yes.

- BANKSTON: Okay, that's Mr. Bidondi.

- ALEX: Yes.

BANKSTON: You sent him to go

cover Wolfgang Halbig, correct?

I don't remember that.

Dan Bidondi for infowars.com,

and we're at the city

of Newtown, Connecticut.

They're having a hearing

on the Sandy Hook incident.

And with me is Wolfgang Halbig.

How are you doing, sir?

Oh, great. Thanks

for seeing me again.

I run different

than normal reporters

because what I do

is I go out there

and get the truth out.

That's one reason why

I got my job with Infowars.

Okay, I started

working for infowars.com.

No, you're a hero to many of us.

God bless you.

No, no, all of us.

We need to have the truth.

Thank you.

At least we could say

we stood up,

and we did something.

You know what I mean?

And that's the same drive

that everybody

at infowars.com has.

And this is Dan Bidondi

for the Infowars Nightly News.

(CAR HORN HONKING)

WOLFGANG: It's weird

when you're in Sandy Hook.

Something is not right

in this town.

And, really, you can feel it.

FIREFIGHTER: I'm telling you

to get out of here.

Get the f*ck out.

WOLFGANG:

Hey, you touch me again...

I wanted to meet the fire chief.

He's a huge player

in the Sandy Hook incident.

- CREW MEMBER: Don't touch him, Wolf.

- Get out of here!

Chief, chief you gotta get him

out of my face.

He's no f*cking chief.

Get the f*ck out of here.

- I feel sorry for you.

- FIREFIGHTER: f*ck you.

I feel sorry for you.

Go to hell.

This is your volunteer

fire department

here at Sandy Hook

to save the children.

It's just ugly.

You are the board member,

you are the leaders

of this community,

you are the superintendent.

I've appeared in front

of the school board members

and asked the question,

"Why no trauma helicopters?"

Why no trauma helicopters?

Why would you not

let paramedics...

Board members,

these are your children...

Not one of them responded.

They're hiding something.

People in America

deserve the truth.

Wolfgang Halbig

created a lot of hurt

and a lot of harm for people.

We want answers. We want truth.

PAT LLODRA: Listening

and watching what he's doing,

I'm realizing

that he's being energized

by Alex Jones.

And that the two of them

fed each other's psychosis.

Something is rotten here.

What's your bottom line?

What do you think's

happening here?

WOLFGANG: Well, until

they answer those questions,

I can tell you

children did not die.

Teachers did not die.

It just could not have happened.

He was so persistent.

DAN BIDONDI:

There goes Mr. Frank.

How does it feel covering up

Sandy Hook, criminal?

Well, Monte Frank

was the attorney representing

the town of Newtown.

When somebody asks

for public records,

you should honor their request.

And they denied me

at every step.

Good morning, Monte Frank,

representing

the town of Newtown.

We started getting

inundated with

Freedom of Information requests

from Wolfgang Halbig.

- Did I read that correctly?

- WOLFGANG: Yeah, absolutely.

Both the tone and the type

of requests became more and more

menacing and harassing.

Never have met a liar

like this man here.

(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)

DAN: Hey, Attorney Frank,

are you satisfied

with the decision?

Of course,

he's not going to answer.

There goes corruption

right there.

Guess what there, Mr. Frank,

what do you think?

You're protecting

all of those people?

It took every ounce

of energy that I had,

and every bit of restraint,

just to keep walking

and not comment.

DAN: You guys trying

to cover up Sandy Hook?

You know the information's

gonna come out.

You know that, right?

You people are going to jail.

PAT: We became

increasingly anxious.

It's like death

by a thousand cuts.

It's a drip, drip, drip

of "we're not

going to let you heal,

we're going to keep at you

because we think our lies

are more powerful

than your truth."

DAN: The Sandy Hook truth

is coming out.

You people going to jail.

You can smile all you want.

You're going to jail for fraud.

Plain and simple.

It went on for many, many years.

DAN: If you've got nothing

to hide, then speak with us.

CREW MEMBER: Take a moment to speak

with us. You're a public official.

DAN:

But make no mistake about it,

you will be going to jail...

MONTE FRANK: I did not realize

the extent of their reach

and the power of their reach.

And social media was exploding.

YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.

And so this att*ck on facts

would become part of...

I wouldn't say mainstream,

but pretty damn close to what

is mainstream America now.

WOLFGANG: I just hope and pray

that I'm not wrong.

If I'm that wrong,

if I'm that wrong,

and if I've hurt people,

probably I need to go

to a mental hospital.

Now look at this one here,

this is unbelievable.

Hockley. See her?

NICOLE: There's no point

arguing with them.

That I've learned the hard way.

No matter what you do,

they're never gonna believe.

They say, "Show us

the death certificates."

"Oh, that's a forgery."

"Show us the pictures."

"Oh, that's a forg... "

"Show us proof

that your kid ever existed."

"Oh, you just made that up."

And you can't... you can't win.

LENNY: Most people did think

that if it was just ignored,

next time they'd look for it,

it wouldn't be there.

And I didn't have that opinion.

It was obvious to me

that this was on a trajectory,

and it was only getting worse.

In 2014, I was ready to take on

this hoaxer phenomenon

relating to the tragedy

of my son.

My first phase

was to make myself available

and communicate with them.

And Kelley Watt

was one of the people

that I came across.

So we had this dialogue,

you know, we talked a lot

for about a six-month

period of time.

I'm as firm in my belief

that it didn't happen

as Lenny Pozner is...

That he's convinced that he had

a son who passed away.

You just... (GROANS)

This is just so insane.

I just can't believe

that anybody believes it.

I really have a hard time

believing that people

actually believe this.

She communicated with all

of these hoax content creators

like Wolfgang Halbig.

And she inserted herself

in the middle of all of this.

When I heard that these children

had been sh*t,

one of the first things I did

because of my cleaning business,

I called the Environmental

Protection Agency of Connecticut

and said,

"Who cleaned up the blood?"

And it was like, "What blood?"

I'm like, "Twenty-six people

were m*rder*d. That blood."

And he said, "Are you one

of these conspiracy theorists?"

And he said, "I stepped over

those dead babies."

To which I replied,

"No, you did not.

No, you did not."

(COMPUTER MOUSE CLICKING)

LENNY: This is the email

that Kelley Watt had sent.

When I'd asked her

to contact Wolfgang Halbig

to see if he'll talk to me.

And the response

that I got from Kelley is that

he won't speak to me

until I exhume Noah's body.

KELLEY WATT:

I watched a lot of true crime,

and they exhume bodies

all the time.

It's not unusual.

That's all you can do.

If you really want to prove

that this didn't happen,

what else can you do

but to have the bodies exhumed?

LENNY:

That's when I realized that,

you know, these people,

they've got

their own party going on, and...

and uh, and I'm not invited, so.

After that phase

lacked any success,

I shifted to removing content.

Anyone that was going

after Noah,

I was having

their content removed.

YouTube videos.

Anything that was

denying reality.

The hoax content outnumbered

any factual information.

If you did a Google search,

or a search on YouTube,

for the Sandy Hook sh**ting,

five out of six results

would have been hoax material.

That's what people

were clicking on

so that's all that people

are going to be exposed to.

It was a contagion.

It was going viral,

spreading to billions of people.

Platforms at that point

wouldn't remove content

based on their own policies.

Other than copyright.

That's very black and white

in the hosting world.

I was persistent

in reporting material.

Going after a particular channel

and finding anything

that violated privacy

or copyright.

ALEX: Noah Pozner,

one of the children

supposedly k*lled

in the December 2012

Sandy Hook school sh**ting

in Newtown, Connecticut.

LENNY: So if they were using

images of Noah,

I was able to get that content

taken down

and that would bring

channels down.

You got green screen

with Anderson Cooper,

and then his nose disappears.

It's... it's not real.

LENNY: Even that video,

you know, there were probably

hundreds of that video,

maybe thousands of it.

All of that had

to be taken down, one by one.

And it was very hard to do.

And there was real...

real warfare going on,

and a real battle

was taking place.

They were losing their content.

It's like their playground,

and if you take their toys away,

they just become enraged.

Our entire media operation

and your First Amendment,

my First Amendment,

is under massive att*ck.

By 2015 he was accusing me

of taking away his free speech

and crippling

his YouTube channel.

ALEX: This guy comes and says

that we violated their copyright

to trigger the suspension

of the Alex Jones channel.

LENNY:

Infowars published my name

before his millions

of listeners.

This is amazing.

The claimant is Lenny Pozner,

HONRnetwork at gmail.com.

What do you think

of us being censored?

What's been happening to you?

CALLER:

I can tell you lots about Lenny.

Lenny, if you're listening,

your day is coming, my friend.

It is coming.

Go after him, Alex. Crush him.

LENNY:

After that came Lucy Richards.

LUCY RICHARDS: (ON VOICEMAIL)

You're going to die,

you m*therf*cking n*gg*r.

Kike, Jew bastard. c**t.

You're going to die.

She made death threats.

She became triggered

by something she heard

on Infowars.

She was sentenced

to six months in federal prison.

Part of her consequence

was that she would no longer

listen to Alex Jones.

So that was directly ordered

by the court.

(TYPING)

LENNY: It kept on going.

It continues.

ALEX: Donald Tr*mp is our guest.

He is the leading

2016 Republican

presidential contender.

Well, Donald Tr*mp,

let me say this.

My audience,

I'd say 90 percent, support you.

DONALD Tr*mp:

Your reputation's amazing.

I will not let you down.

You will be very,

very impressed, I hope.

2016, you know,

we had a president

that was denying things.

This is a good time to be alive,

ladies and gentlemen,

and we owe Donald Tr*mp so much.

LENNY: That idea, that concept,

has spread, to not trust media.

There was this escalation

in alternative ways of thinking

so that, combined with Infowars

repeating Sandy Hook lies,

brought everything back again.

It restarted the cycle.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

MEGYN KELLY:

Alex Jones isn't going away.

Over the years,

his YouTube channel

has racked up 1.3 billion views.

He has millions of listeners,

and the ear

of our current president.

NEIL: Alex Jones's

general statements and remarks

and, you know,

disbelief of the tragedy

were getting more

and more frequent.

So I went on the, uh,

Megyn's show

and I did an interview.

I lost my son. I buried my son.

I held my son with a b*llet hole

through his head.

Shortly thereafter,

I was accused of being a liar.

Here's another story. (CHUCKLES)

Neil Heslin,

a father of one of the victims,

he's claiming

that he held his son

and saw the b*llet hole

in his head.

That is his claim.

Now, according

to a timeline of events

and a coroner's testimony,

that is not possible.

Megyn Kelly,

talking to the father

of one of the victims,

saying he went

and held his dead son

there at the school.

And then it cuts to the coroner,

but he's saying

no one was allowed

to go in and see the kids.

And we just said, "See? That's

why people ask questions."

I held him with a b*llet hole

in his head.

You know,

who does he think he is

to... to... you know,

question that?

That was really the...

What broke the camel's back.

And that's when I filed

the lawsuit against Alex Jones.

And I figured,

"Well, he's in Texas,

I'm gonna go to Texas with it."

(MUSIC CONCLUDES)

BANKSTON: 2018,

Neil Heslin called me

and said, "Can you help me?"

Neil lost his son, Jesse.

And what was in Neil's case

is that Infowars

specifically said,

"You're lying

about having held your child.

You didn't do that.

You're a liar."

And then, of course,

Jesse's mom, Scarlett Lewis,

also subject to the same

kind of harassment,

these lies

about the death of her child.

So you had two causes

of action for Neil,

which is defamation

and intentional infliction

of emotional distress,

and just the emotional distress

for Scarlett.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

SCARLETT:

I had to think long and hard

over whether

I would join the lawsuit.

There have been times

that have been very scary,

and I've had to think,

"Wow, is this is worth it?"

And...

my conclusion

has always been, "Yeah.

It's worth it to send

this message,

the importance of truth."

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

CHRIS MATTEI: So, this is

the case against Alex Jones

on behalf

of 15 Connecticut plaintiffs.

The Texas cases kinda continued

on somewhat of

a parallel track to ours.

We're both proceeding, um,

I think,

with the same goal in mind,

you know, which is to hold

Alex Jones accountable.

The families that we represent

are very much looking forward

to the trial.

FRANCINE WHEELER:

I was at a conference

for mothers who...

Whose kids d*ed by g*n v*olence.

And I, uh, was in an elevator

with this woman.

She saw my necklace

and she said,

"Who's this?"

And I said,

"Oh, this is my son, Ben.

He was k*lled when he was six."

And she said,

"What do you mean?"

And I said,

"Well, we live in Sandy Hook,

he d*ed in his school."

And she said, "You're lying."

- PARENT: Wow.

- "That didn't happen.

They said it...

They said it didn't happen."

And I was like, "What?"

She said, "No, no,

they said it didn't happen."

And I was like,

"No, it... it really happened."

And she wasn't crazy.

ROBBIE: It had been years

since our kids were k*lled,

and I'm walking

down the street in Seattle

and somebody recognizes me,

and then he looked up and goes,

"How do you f*cking

sleep at night,

you son of a bitch?"

And I just think

the amount of content

that that person had to watch

and digest and hold on to,

to where he could recognize me

in some random city,

3,000 miles away from Newtown,

on some random day...

Like, how much...

How much did he have to take in?

(PARENTS AGREEING)

MARK: Part of

what we're doing here

is hoping that we can...

we can do our little part

to course correct

this kind of dangerous,

wildly out of control dynamic

of misinformation

and disinformation

and people who are happy

and willing to believe

whatever it is

that they want to hear.

It was the only thing we found

that was left for us

to make it stop,

hopefully, to make it stop.

My little son d*ed afraid,

and alone, terrorized,

watching his friends

be m*rder*d.

Yeah.

Lots of anger.

NICOLE:

There's so much to deal with

after losing a child.

I'm strong enough now

that I'm ready to take this on.

DIRECTOR: So what's

the end result gonna be?

Um, total destruction

of Alex Jones, can I say that?

(LAUGHS)

- (TRANQUIL MUSIC PLAYING)

- I love America.

It's not fear that makes me

get tears in my eyes.

It's will and strength

boiling to defeat these tyrants,

and these globalists.

- (expl*si*n)

- (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYS)

But that said...

Just like our information

is game-changing...

the products that we sell,

all of them, are powerful.

And whether

it's colloidal silver from 1995,

the very best out there,

or whether it's DNA Force,

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MATTEI:

What we really want to do

is expose him to the world

as a con man, a fraud.

Alex Jones does not want

his audience to know

just how much

he's exploiting them every day.

But what happened is,

their lawyers gave us

all these emails,

which they hadn't reviewed,

and included in the emails

were attachments

that showed some of the data

for some of the years.

It just so happened,

you know, we got lucky.

The dates are from 2009 to 2014,

so that was great for us

because what we were

able to show

is the growth in audience

month over month

and year over year.

So, they published this story

to infowars.com,

September 2014, almost two years

after the sh**ting,

"FBI Says No One k*lled

at Sandy Hook."

It's just a lie,

it's ridiculous.

But you put out

a story like this

and it gets people's attention

because, I think,

people just assume,

"Oh, my gosh, more evidence."

And, of course, you know,

they're running their

33 percent off DNA Force Plus.

So, they published this story

and then they had a spike

in unique visitors,

they have a spike in page views.

So what's happening

is all these new people

are coming to infowars.com

to read this bullshit story

about FBI saying

nobody k*lled at Sandy Hook,

and when they're there,

they're getting pitched

all these ads to go to the store

and a lot of them do.

The next day,

their revenue goes from 48,000

to 232,000,

from this one story alone.

- MATTEI: (ON LAPTOP) Uh, good morning sir.

- Good morning.

MATTEI: (VOICEOVER) This guy,

Tim Fruge, his business director.

In this deposition,

you know, I show him the spike,

he says,

"Yeah, there's a spike."

I would agree

there's a spike, yes.

I agree with you.

MATTEI: (ON LAPTOP) And when you're

having your daily call with Alex Jones

and you see a spike

in revenue like that,

from 48,000 to 232,000 dollars,

you're telling him

about that, right?

Yeah, of course.

MATTEI: (VOICEOVER) Of course!

It's just so obvious

what they're doing.

Jones is just getting rich.

He's just getting rich

off of saying these things

about these families

who meantime, meantime in 2014,

they're under a barrage

of threats and harassment

and fear and anxiety

because of what he's doing.

He doesn't give a sh*t.

He's just like

getting rich off it.

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's...

Yeah, the more people

in town square,

the more people

go to the shops. Yes.

- MATTEI: Morning, Mr. Jones.

- Good morning.

MATTEI: His dad, David Jones,

kind of like said

the quiet part out loud.

Are you aware whether

Free Speech Systems collects

data concerning when

during an Alex Jones broadcast

it has the most sales activity?

Only in the sense

that if there have been days

where we had extraordinarily

good sales, someone will say,

"What was Alex saying

when that happened?"

And so,

we like to emulate spikes.

They're seeing this

and they want to replicate it.

Of course,

that's how you run a business.

That's what you would expect,

except that Alex Jones

tells his audience,

"I don't care about money,

you know,

I'm just all about freedom

and fighting the globalists.

And, you know,

support us if you can

to keep us on the air."

When really what he's doing

is just feeding his audience

like a daily dose

of fear and rage

and looking at what works.

What else could possibly explain

the way these families

have been hunted and stalked

for ten years?

BANKSTON:

Jones was not reluctant

to have his deposition taken.

When it first started,

you could tell

he was feeling

like he was in his element.

You know, he thought,

"Oh, I'm in front of a camera.

I'm just going to act

like I'm on my own show."

The trauma of the media

and the corporations

lying so much,

then everything begins...

You don't trust

anything anymore.

Kind of like a child

whose parents lie to them

over and over again. Well,

pretty soon they don't know

what reality is.

People lost any compass

of what's real.

And I've, you know, I myself

have, you know, almost had

like a form of psychosis

back in the past

where I basically thought

everything was staged,

even though I'm now learning

a lot of times

things aren't staged.

You know, it's painful

that we have to question

big public events.

I think that's an essential part

of the First Amendment

in America...

BANKSTON: In this country,

First Amendment guarantees

that Congress shall pass no law

abridging the freedom

of the speech.

Telling lies, false information

is not protected

by the First Amendment.

And then photos of kids

that are still alive

they said d*ed.

I mean, they think we're so dumb

that it's... it's really

hidden in plain view.

BANKSTON: Mr. Jones, you can

admit that that statement

was absolute nonsense.

There are not photos of children

who d*ed

who are actually still alive.

- That's not...

- That is an out-of-context clip.

I can't even respond

to something like that.

BANKSTON: You've made money

from every single one

of these broadcasts

we saw today, right?

(SIGHS)

No, we actually lose money

on really controversial stuff.

We can actually see it.

BANKSTON: And you have

supplements you sell too

with these videos, correct?

It's... (SPLUTTERS)

The two don't go together.

BANKSTON: You can never trust

anything this guy says.

He's a calculated liar.

As the deposition drug on,

he enjoyed it less.

VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back

on the record at 12:58 p.m.

BANKSTON: Mr. Jones,

before we went on a break,

we were talking about the issue

of whether there were EMTs

allowed into the building.

We talk a lot about

the tragedy at Sandy Hook

and sometimes we shield

ourselves from the details.

In that second classroom,

there was over a dozen children

piled into a rear bathroom.

I have put in front of you

the statement

of Lieutenant Vanghele.

I'm going to read that

and you're going to

follow along with me. Okay?

"I then walked into a room

with Sergeant Cario.

To the left of the room

as you walk in,

there was a bathroom

in the corner.

There was a massive pileup

of bodies in this room.

At this time, I did not know

it was a bathroom,

and I wondered how the suspect

had the time to k*ll

that many people and stack them

in the corner of the room.

And many of the bodies

had injuries

that were obviously fatal.

The children that were sitting

on the floor of the bathroom

were packed in like sardines."

Let's look at exhibit three.

Do you see at the very bottom

of the page,

the very bottom left corner,

it says

Sergeant William F. Cario?

- (YAWNS) Yes.

- BANKSTON: Okay.

I'm going to read

the highlighted part to you.

"Paramedic Matt Cassavechia

approached me.

I have known Cassavechia

for many years

and recognized him as the head

of EMS for Danbury Hospital.

Cassavechia said,

'You know I've got

to get into that building.'

I realized at some point

those victims presumed dead

would have to be officially

pronounced dead.

As we walked to the school,

I told Cassavechia,

'This will be the worst day

of your life.'"

After that, his demeanor

totally changed

and his attitude for the rest

of the deposition changed.

One of the major successes

that I think we've had

is forcing Jones

to admit under oath,

that he was not right,

that Sandy Hook happened.

We finally have that on record.

Recently, your lawyer said,

"There is no dispute

that the Sandy Hook tragedy

was real."

You stand by that, that's what

you admit is true now?

Yes.

BANKSTON: I wanna ask you,

now looking back on this,

are you sorry?

You know, I did all this

from a good place in my heart,

and I'm really sad

the establishment has lied

so much and done so much

that the public doesn't believe

what they're told anymore.

There's been a real loss

of confidence in the system.

And I'm a good person.

BANKSTON: So in some ways

you're a victim?

Well, let's just say

time's running out

for the establishment.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

This is bizarre.

This is unbelievable.

A judge just says,

"You're defaulted,

you're guilty.

You owe these people money."

BANKSTON:

For the past three years,

Infowars has repeatedly

disobeyed

the court's instructions.

Has broken virtually every rule

that could be put

in front of them.

The judge had enough,

said it's over.

What that means is he's lost.

It's over.

Because a default judgment

has been granted against Jones,

and that's a big event.

All that's left to do

is to determine

how much he has to pay

these parents

for the unlawful acts he did.

That's it.

This jury will be instructed,

at the very beginning

of this trial,

that they are to find

that the defendant

has committed these acts.

All right, Mr. Jones,

you know about,

uh, back in September a default

got granted against you, right?

I know I didn't get

a jury trial.

I know a judge said

I was guilty.

I don't believe that I live

in the Soviet Union.

BANKSTON: Now that

you got b*at in court,

now that a default's

been granted...

No, I didn't get b*at in court.

(STAMMERS) I got b*at

by an organized crime syndicate.

WES BALL: What Jones decided

to do in this case

was not participate

in discovery.

And he never gave us anything

other than just pure BS.

Yet he turns around then

and says,

"Oh, I gave

so much information."

If... if... if you give me

80 pounds of sh*t,

it's still 80 pounds of sh*t.

This is a show trial.

Eighty-one thousand pages,

two depositions with myself

and my whole crew,

because we don't have

what you claim we have.

He looked at it and said,

"If I give you all the information

that I'm supposed to give you,

there's no way

I'm ever gonna win.

So why the hell

am I gonna give it to you?"

So, if you don't give it to us,

there's remedies for that.

And that remedy

is, again, the default.

It's a kangaroo trial

because it is.

BANKSTON: You didn't even

answer discovery.

When you tell your show

that this is all

just a kangaroo court

and you completely complied

but got railroaded,

that's not true.

- None of that's true.

- No, it is true.

I mean, I remember giving

you guys all sorts of stuff.

Then you would say

you hadn't been given it.

I don't say this as a victim,

but this is traumatic for me,

and I'm s... and I'm tired

of hearing about it.

And now, I have, like,

a mental wall on Sandy Hook

that just goes up,

because I can't deal

with the stress of it.

And so, I just put

a mental wall up and I... I...

You ask me these questions,

and it's like... I just

can't deal with it anymore.

(SIGHS)

(EXHALES SHARPLY)

(TENSE STRING MUSIC PLAYING)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

ALEX: I'm gonna tell you again. You're

having all of your rights robbed.

We're not allowed

to tell the jury

that Infowars is bankrupt.

This is a kangaroo court.

This is a political action.

It's a witch hunt.

I'll be back later.

BANKSTON: We got business here.

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING)

REPORTER: We just heard

from Alex Jones.

He believes the trial is a sham,

a show trial.

He's saying that because

he's already been found liable

by default by this judge.

(QUIET CHATTER)

(DOOR OPENS, CLOSES)

COURT CLERK: All rise.

459th District Court

is now in session.

The Honorable Judge

Maya Guerra Gamble presiding.

Good morning.

You may be seated.

This is Neil Heslin

and Scarlett Lewis

versus Alex E. Jones

and Free Speech Systems LLC.

You are not here

to determine if Mr. Jones

and Free Speech Systems LLC

defamed

or intentionally inflicted

emotional distress

on Mr. Heslin or Ms. Lewis.

The court has already found

that they have committed

these acts.

The jury's job will be

to determine what sum of money,

if any, would fairly

and reasonably compensate

Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis

for the damages they incurred

that were proximately caused

by Mr. Jones

and Free Speech Systems LLC.

Mr. Bankston,

whenever you are ready.

Ladies and gentlemen,

my name's Mark Bankston,

and I'm here to talk to you

about two rules.

First, you can't recklessly

tell lies

about something important

to someone.

In this case,

like the death of their child.

If you do that, you know

you're going to cause them harm,

you're responsible for that.

Mr. Jones continually

was churning this idea

that Sandy Hook was fake.

You need to understand

that he intentionally lied

to sell supplements.

Mr. Jones used Jesse's death

to sell his products.

Mr. Jones told the world

that Neil was lying

about holding Jesse's body.

Because Mr. Jones will do

or say anything

to protect his ability

to profit off his lies.

And over the last decade,

Mr. Jones has become

incredibly influential

over a segment of this country.

What I want you to remember

about this is this number.

Twenty-four percent

is the percent

of people in this country

who believe that Sandy Hook

was either definitely

or possibly staged,

and group of people

is 75 million people.

You can put an end to these lies

by punishing Alex Jones.

- (WHISPERING)

- BANKSTON: Thank you very much.

MAYA GUERRA GAMBLE: All right,

thank you, Mr. Bankston.

It was surreal.

That 24 percent

just was so powerful,

especially to me.

I mean, I had known that,

but I didn't want to say it

because I didn't really want

to acknowledge

that a quarter of Americans

don't believe the facts.

REYNAL: Infowars believes

in people's right

to question information.

Alex Jones doesn't trust

the government.

Millions of Americans

don't trust the government.

There's nothing

sort of more appealing

than when I see, uh, you know,

a person alone

surrounded by a lynch mob.

Despite his hyperbole,

he has helped millions of people

realize for the first time

the depredations

that are affected upon them

by the elites.

And I think for that

he is an American hero.

He is one

of the most polarizing figures

in this nation.

They want to tell you

this is the Great Satan.

You will be able to decide.

REYNAL:

The plaintiff's attorneys

took Mr. Heslin and Ms. Lewis

and they convinced them

that Alex Jones was responsible

for all the pain

that they have in their lives.

And then they grabbed Alex Jones

and they threw us both

into a pit

so that we could

fight against each other on...

on national television.

GAMBLE: Mr. Shroyer,

raise your right hand

to be sworn in, please.

BANKSTON: Neil said,

"I held my son in my arms.

I saw the b*llet wound

through his forehead."

The person who got

on the Internet,

on Jones's web show,

and said that Neil Heslin

was a liar,

that's Infowars reporter

Owen Shroyer.

You did a show

on June 25th, 2017,

where you were the sole host.

You remember that?

- Yes.

- KYLE FARRAR: Okay.

You were handed the story

while you were on air live

- and you ran with it, right?

- Yes.

FARRAR: You had no problem

putting that on the air, right?

Yes.

FARRAR: The message is,

"Neil Heslin never held Jesse."

- Right?

- No.

OWEN SHROYER: He's claiming

that he held his son

and saw the b*llet hole

in his head.

That is his claim.

Now, according

to a timeline of events

and a coroner's testimony,

that is not possible.

Okay, so making a pretty

extreme claim

that would be a very thing

vivid in your memory,

holding his dead child.

FARRAR: When you, three times,

say, "He's claiming it,"

and then show evidence

that you say refutes it,

you're saying

you're not doubting it?

I didn't show evidence

that refuted his claim.

I showed evidence

that was presented to me

that says this doesn't add up.

But I never called

Mr. Heslin a liar.

I never said

Sandy Hook didn't happen.

FARRAR: In the process

of putting that story out

to a worldwide broadcast,

you hurt real people.

You understand that now, right?

I mean... (SIGHS)

You still don't care, do you?

I do care.

- ("UPRISING" BY MUSE PLAYS)

- Will there be a clarification

from Heslin or Megyn Kelly?

I wouldn't hold your breath.

(LAUGHS)

So now they're fueling

the conspiracy theory claims.

Unbelievable.

We'll be right back with more.

(SONG STOPS)

FARRAR: Why in the world

would Neil Heslin

- owe you an explanation?

- He doesn't.

Do you think Scarlett and Neil

deserve better

than what you did that day?

Yes.

FARRAR: So right after

you called Neil Heslin a liar,

they ran a commercial

for a product

that they sell on their website

called Z-Shield, right?

Well, yes, when we go

to a break, we run commercials.

Right. Because Infowars

is actually an infomercial,

- right?

- No.

ALEX: Thank you for joining us

on this live Tuesday

worldwide transmission.

I'm hosting this hour,

and then I'm gonna get in a car

and drive down to testify

today in the show trial.

It's demonic.

They all act

demonically possessed.

The judge, the lawyers.

It's surreal to be around them.

BALL: Mr. Neil Heslin

to the stand.

All right, Mr. Heslin, you'll

come in front of me, please,

so I can swear you in.

ALEX: The judge is primping,

and they've got an HBO camera

with her all mic-ed up in there.

(MOCKING) "Oh! Oh"

They've got dozens

of cameras in there.

Then they go, "This man tortured

these innocent people

for ten years."

BALL: Mr. Heslin...

Mr. Jones's attorney said

that he would be here today.

How does it make you feel,

sitting in this courtroom

right now,

that Mr. Jones is not

sitting here facing you?

I think it's a disrespect

and I think it's a cowardly act

of Alex Jones

not to be facing me here

in this courtroom.

ALEX: I've now met Neil Heslin.

And I'll just say it,

'cause I gotta be honest.

He's slow.

And now that I've been around

him for over a week,

I'm like, "Okay."

Mr. Heslin,

did you hear what was being said

by Alex Jones and his associates

as a denial

that Jesse ever existed?

NEIL: Yes.

He did live.

I was blessed with him

for six and a half years.

(SNIFFLES)

I did hold my son

with a b*llet hole in his head.

This trial is the only way

I can restore my credibility

and reputation.

And Jesse's legacy and honor,

as he so much deserves.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

SCARLETT: Neil had always talked

about wanting his day in court

and he wanted to face Jones.

And actually, for me,

that was a pretty scary thing

to think about.

(CAR HORNS HONKING)

SCARLETT: And, you know,

he wasn't in court a lot,

so you could never predict

when he was going to be in court

and when he wasn't.

REPORTER 1: How are you doing

today, Mr. Jones?

Doing great.

REPORTER 2: Mr. Jones,

can you tell us

why you weren't in trial

this morning?

ALEX: The whole country is turning

against the Democratic Party.

SCARLETT: And there he is.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

My stomach just turned over.

(CHUCKLES SOFTLY)

It did a flip-flop.

GAMBLE:

Spit your gum out, Mr. Jones.

- ALEX: It's not gum.

- GAMBLE: Well, what is it?

'Cause you're not allowed food

or gum of any kind

in the courtroom.

I had my tooth pulled

a week and a half ago,

and it's... I had some gauze

in there earlier.

So you're chewing on your gauze?

ALEX: Would you like me

to show you?

- No.

- I can show you right here.

GAMBLE: I don't want

to see the inside of your mouth.

No, there's no gum.

- Hole.

- GAMBLE: Sit down.

We're bringing the jury in.

(INAUDIBLE)

SCARLETT: He's sitting

right in front of me,

and I'm looking

right into his eyes.

BALL: Are you pleased

that you at least

now finally get to

look this man in the eye?

Yes.

I wanted to tell you,

to your face,

because I wanted you to know

that I am a mother,

first and foremost.

And I know that you're a father.

And my son existed.

You're still on your show

today, trying to say

that I'm...

implying that I'm an actress.

That I'm deep state.

You have, this week.

And truth is what we base

our reality on.

And we have to agree on that

to have a civil society.

Sandy Hook is a hard truth.

And having a quarter

of Americans

doubt that Sandy Hook happened,

or doubt the facts

around Sandy Hook,

is not conducive

to keeping our kids safe.

It's not.

Jesse was real. I am a real mom.

I know you know that.

That's the problem.

I know you know that,

and you keep saying it.

You keep saying it.

Why? Why? For money?

Because you've made a lot

of money while you've said it.

I know you're... I mean...

I know you believe me.

And yet you're going to get...

You're going to leave

this courthouse

and you're going to say it

again on your show.

You're saying no.

You just did it.

(SIGHS)

BALL:

Did you have an opportunity

to hear what Mr. Jones

had said on his show,

not 45 minutes or so ago,

about Mr. Heslin

and his testimony?

Yes.

REYNAL: I'm going to object,

Your Honor.

It's an edited clip.

I don't think

it should be played.

GAMBLE: Overruled.

I mean, I'll just say it

'cause I gotta be honest.

He's slow. Okay?

I don't think he's stupid.

I'm just saying he's... he's...

I mean, I think Heslin acts

like somebody on the spectrum,

and it makes me feel

like an even bigger jerk.

BALL: How does it make you feel,

knowing that that was said today

by this man on his radio show

while Jesse's father

was testifying

in that same seat

you're sitting in?

It makes me feel...

astounded in a bad way.

It's horrific.

Horrific. Horrific.

BALL: You have a claim

for intentional infliction

of emotional distress.

- Do you not?

- Yes.

BALL: And what do you hope

will be accomplished?

SCARLETT: In some way,

you've impacted every single

day of my life negatively

since... almost since

Jesse's m*rder.

Alex has been asked to stop,

and he hasn't.

He's still doing it today.

So you're not going to stop.

I don't even think my pleading

with you up here

is going to get you to stop.

It seems so incredible to me

that we have to do this.

That we have to implore you,

not just implore you,

punish you to get you

to stop lying,

saying it's a hoax. It happened.

It's, like, surreal,

what's going on in here.

I think everyone in here

probably feels that way.

(SIGHS)

I hope to accomplish

an era of truth.

An era of truth.

(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)

Please.

GAMBLE: Mr. Reynal, do you have

a witness for the jury?

I do.

The defense would call

Alex E. Jones.

GAMBLE: All right, Mr. Jones,

come stand in front of me, please.

Raise your right hand.

Do you solemnly swear or affirm,

under penalty of perjury,

that the testimony

you are about to give

shall be the truth,

the whole truth,

- and nothing but the truth?

- I do.

Thank you. Come have a seat.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

REYNAL: He didn't have

to be there.

You know, he wasn't subpoenaed.

You know, within the bounds

of what was allowed,

we tried to let him

tell his story.

Alex, would you please

introduce yourself

to the ladies and gentlemen

of the jury?

Hi, I'm Alex Jones.

REYNAL: How are you feeling

today, Alex?

I actually feel good

because I get a chance to,

for the first time,

say what's really going on,

instead of the corporate media

and high-powered law firms

manipulating what

I actually did.

I just do want to say this

on record,

'cause I've said it

many times...

BANKSTON:

Objection, non-responsive.

- I apologize to both...

- GAMBLE: Uh! Sustained.

So, Mr. Jones,

this is not a conversation.

It's question and answer.

So she got to monologue

but not me. I got it.

GAMBLE: And so you have

to only answer questions

that are asked of you.

You may proceed.

REYNAL: Mr. Jones, have you been

wanting to apologize

to the plaintiffs in this case

for a long time?

Yes.

REYNAL: And what would you like

to say to them?

That I never intentionally

tried to hurt you.

Today, where they play

a 30 s... or one-minute clip,

and I knew that I said,

"I believe

that Scarlett Lewis is real

and she's a really nice person

and she's really

a sweet person."

And then I went through and

talked about her ex-husband too.

And then... then I said, "I believe

they're being fed and manipulated."

BANKSTON: Your Honor,

objection, non-responsive.

GAMBLE: Sustained.

- This is a perfect...

- GAMBLE: Sustained.

When you hear sustained,

you have to stop talking.

Okay. Okay.

(ALEX MUMBLES)

(COUGHS) Excuse me.

Sorry. (CLEARS THROAT)

- Mr. Jones.

- Oh, thank you very much.

I'm sorry. I just... I just...

(GULPS) I'm about to have

to have surgery on this. It's...

It's been like this

for ten years,

but it's really bad now.

REYNAL: Let's talk about

Infowars and its business model.

- Do you sell vitamins?

- Yes.

We have them made

by the... the top lab

recognized in the United States.

All we do is put

our label on it,

so we know it's triple-tested,

the highest quality.

And that's why people love it

because it is

the best out there.

There's all sorts of crap

you can buy

at a gas station out there.

That's not what ours is.

I mean, we buy our PQQ

and CoQ10 from the Japanese.

I mean, it's the best.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

REYNAL: Let's discuss email.

How much email

does Infowars routinely get?

Uh, I mean... I mean,

I know when we looked to comply

with the discovery,

which we complied with,

it was over ten million

that they had to search

that was still in the inbox, unopened.

REYNAL: How many employees

would Infowars have to have,

in your view, if you were

to actually read every message,

every email, every tip

that's sent in?

It would take ten,

15, 20 people.

We'd go bankrupt,

which we are now. But...

BANKSTON: Your Honor, I have a couple

motions I'm gonna need to take up

outside the presence

of the jury.

I don't know

if you want to do that now

or wait till he's done

with his direct.

GAMBLE: All right. We're gonna...

Just... just sit tight

for a second.

We're going to take a break.

- All right, thank you.

- COURT CLERK: All rise.

BANKSTON: I don't know

what's going on, Your Honor,

but I need to bring a couple

of motions there

for jury instructions.

Mr. Reynal just absolutely

solicited direct testimony

from Mr. Jones

that he is bankrupt.

Mr. Jones has testified

straight into the record

that he's bankrupt,

which is not true.

Mr. Jones

just intentionally did that

in violation of your order

to attempt to poison

this compensatory

damage verdict,

to try to tell this jury

that he's broke when he's not.

The second is that

he absolutely...

Mr. Jones just fully testified,

"We complied with discovery,"

but we both know Mr. Jones

did anything but comply

with discovery and did that

for four years,

thumbing his nose in the face

of this court in rank contempt.

Mr. Jones...

you may not say to this jury...

that you complied

with discovery.

That is not true.

You may not say it again.

You may not tell this jury

that you are bankrupt.

That is also not true.

It seems...

absurd to instruct you again

that you must tell the truth

while you testify.

Yet here I am.

You must tell the truth

while you testify.

This is not your show.

Do you understand

what I have said?

Yes or no?

Do you understand

what I have said?

ALEX: Yes. I believe

what I said was true. So...

Yes, you believe everything

you say is true, but it isn't.

Your beliefs do not make

something true.

That is...

That is what we're doing here.

You understand what I have said?

ALEX: I do understand.

You understand the instructions

I have given you

for your testimony in court?

ALEX: Yes.

(SIGHS) I am not going

to bring the jury back today.

All right.

We'll see you tomorrow.

- Thank you.

- COURT CLERK: All rise.

SCARLETT:

He had been coughing a lot

and he had explained

that his larynx was torn.

And I felt such tremendous

compassion for him.

And so brought him a water

and four cough drops.

Oh, thank you.

You're very sweet.

I want you to know that.

I believe your son d*ed,

and I apologize for everything

that happened.

BANKSTON: And that he's slow

and autistic. Thanks, Jones.

No, I'm slow about

certain things, too. I said...

Well, anyways,

I was being honest on air.

And I think people have been...

I think a lot of the stuff

you said...

Have been manipulating

and giving you guys stuff...

BALL: That's it.

We're not talking anymore.

You're not doing this.

That's not even a thought.

That's not the way this goes.

ALEX: Why? 'Cause you can't feed

'em fake videos anymore?

BALL: Oh, shut your mouth.

ALEX: That's what you try to do

is shut my mouth.

- You'll never succeed.

- BANKSTON: Let it go.

- ALEX: That's okay.

- BANKSTON: Don't touch me, sir.

Well, I think

I'm autistic too, mate.

- (INDISTINCT CHATTER)

- OFFICER: Stop there and stay.

See that?

They came over to see us.

BANKSTON: (SIGHS)

Mr. Jones, I want to know,

you taking this trial seriously?

You're approaching it

in good faith?

- Absolutely.

- BANKSTON: Okay.

The truth is,

you and your company

want the world to believe

that this judge is rigging

this court proceeding

to make sure that a script,

a literal script,

is being followed.

That's what you want

the world to believe.

No, I believe the jury's real.

BANKSTON: Okay.

Your Honor, at this time,

we'd like to offer a clip

from Infowars on Friday

from the purposes of impeachment

in which those exact words

were said.

So that's why the judge is

rigging the court proceeding,

to make sure that the script,

this is literally a script,

a script gets told in a certain

way for future audiences.

That's from your show, isn't it?

- That's justice on fire.

- BANKSTON: Oh, okay.

- Can I see it, please?

- BANKSTON: Yes, you may, Your Honor.

(CHUCKLES)

BANKSTON: This is you taking

this trial seriously

and in good faith?

That's what this is?

ALEX: The judge is the fire

of burning Lady Liberty.

It's not the judge...

(STAMMERS)

The judge is consuming freedom.

BANKSTON: I sure hope

some of your viewers

are able to make

that distinction

that you just split on

that hair, don't you?

One of the things

you talked about yesterday

is you complied with discovery,

you said that

on the witness stand?

That's one of the things

I talked about.

Okay. One of the things

that you were ordered to do

in this lawsuit...

you were ordered to turn over

any text messages

mentioning Sandy Hook, right?

- Yes.

- And you didn't have any. Right?

Not that we could find.

And you, in fact, told me

in your sworn testimony,

before coming to this courtroom,

you searched, right?

- ALEX: I did.

- Okay.

Mr. Jones, I'd like

to show you what's been marked

as claimant's exhibit 130.

- That's text messages.

- Yes.

BANKSTON: And they mention

Sandy Hook, don't they?

(SNIFFLES) Yes.

I've never seen

this text message.

You guys have all this stuff,

and you say

we didn't give anything.

So you did get my text messages.

You said you didn't. Nice trick.

BANKSTON: Twelve days ago,

your attorneys messed up

and sent me

an entire digital copy

of your entire cell phone

with every text message

you've sent

for the past two years.

And that is how I know

you lied to me

when you said

you didn't have text messages

about Sandy Hook.

Did you know that?

I... See, I told you the truth.

This is your Perry Mason moment.

I gave them my phone. And then...

GAMBLE: Mr. Jones,

you need to answer the question.

- No, I...

- BANKSTON: Did you know this happened?

No, I didn't know this happened.

But I mean, I told you.

I gave my phone over.

GAMBLE:

Just answer the question.

BANKSTON: You said

in your deposition,

you searched your phone.

You were asked,

"Do you have Sandy Hook

text messages on your phone?"

And you said, "No."

You said that under oath,

Mr. Jones, didn't you?

I mean, if I was mistaken,

I was mistaken.

But you've got the messages

right there.

BANKSTON: You know

what perjury is, right?

I just want to make sure

you know

before we go any further.

You know what it is.

ALEX: Yes, I do.

BANKSTON: But you testified,

under oath, previously,

that you, personally,

searched your phone,

for the phrase "Sandy Hook"

and there were no messages.

- You said that under oath.

- ALEX: Yes.

- And you lied when you said it.

- No, I did not lie.

BANKSTON: Are you aware

that your attorney has argued

this is what you should pay

for the damages?

Do you agree with it?

- Do I agree with it?

- A dollar. A dollar, is that...

We done?

I'll pay it for you.

Are we done?

What does the New York Times do

for lying about WMDs?

BANKSTON: I don't think

there's any point

in asking you

any more questions, Mr. Jones.

ALEX: Okay.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

BANKSTON:

It couldn't have gone better.

This case was going to end

just like it began.

The very first question

I ever asked Jones

was about,

"Why are you lying to me?"

And the very last thing

I ever showed the jury was,

"This man's a liar."

GAMBLE: Ladies

and gentlemen of the jury,

at this time, I will present

to you the charge of the court.

You will go to the jury room

to decide the case,

answer the questions that are

attached, and reach a verdict.

Answer separately in dollars

and cents for each person

for the damages listed below,

if any.

COURT CLERK: All rise.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING)

FAN: Hello, we love you.

(MUTTERS)

You guys got any questions?

REPORTER 1:

Just your thoughts on today.

Our side told the truth.

Their lawyers

did nothing but lie.

But there's no

deep pockets here,

so they're in

for a rude awakening.

So no matter what

the verdict is, I'm at peace.

I always try to tell the truth.

REPORTER 2: What did you think

about the text messages?

God bless, guys.

Appreciate you for coming.

FAN: We love you

Love, love, love.

(QUIET CHATTER)

BANKSTON:

What was that Tom Petty said,

"Waiting is the hardest part"?

The idea of him going back and

starting this all over again,

he will.

That's why for a punitive

damage verdict,

you must take enough

so that he can never

re-enter public life.

Because if you do...

If this isn't his exit

from the American stage,

his story is nowhere

near close to over.

- (SIRENS WAILING DISTANTLY)

- (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

(CAR HORNS HONKING)

(DOOR OPENS, CLOSES)

- Mm-hmm.

- COURT CLERK: All rise.

GAMBLE: All right,

you may be seated.

All right, could you hand

the verdict

to Ms. Matusek-Steele, please.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Question number one,

4,200,000 dollars.

Question number two,

20,500,000 dollars.

Question number three,

20,500,000 dollars.

(TRIUMPHANT MUSIC PLAYING)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

BANKSTON: It's the end

of the beginning.

And boy, are these clients

happy about it.

There was certainly a message

sent out of this courthouse

today, that's for sure.

REPORTER:

So, what's your message?

SCARLETT: To other parents,

I wanted to represent you well.

I know that

you have endured pain,

um, just like I have

over the past ten years.

I truly do hope and believe

that this will usher in

a new era of

the importance of truth.

It was obviously higher

than we wanted,

higher than I believe

was supported by the evidence,

but it was still

a manageable number.

You know, kept my client alive.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

REPORTER: So, it's day one

of another Alex Jones

defamation trial

here in Connecticut.

We're about 20 miles away

from Newtown.

Even ten years after

the Sandy Hook tragedy,

these Sandy Hook families

and victims

are still facing harassment

because Jones spread lies

and called the sh**ting a hoax.

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING)

They're coming for everybody,

ladies and gentlemen.

"Alex Jones goes to trial

for a second time

in Sandy Hook hoax case."

But I'll tell you this,

we can stay on air through

everything they're doing

if we keep fighting

and don't give up.

But it takes massive money.

Don't go through

everything you've done

supporting this broadcast

and then give up at the end.

Now is the most critical

time ever

to support infowarsstore.com.

(MUSIC FADES)

- Morning.

- (OVERLAPPING CHATTER)

Each of you

was chosen to be here today

to compensate them

for their grief.

And you're being asked

to make an example of Alex.

Money is their w*apon of choice.

Money is their w*apon.

Disarm them.

First, they came for Alex Jones.

Who's next?

(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)

My name is David Wheeler.

Last name spelled W-H-E-E-L-E-R.

- Francine Wheeler.

- Erica Lafferty.

My name is Nicole Hockley.

I do.

MATTEI: Our families

will take the stand

and they will testify.

It took a lot of courage

to start this case

in the first place,

knowing that they would expose

themselves to even more abuse.

JOSH KOSKOFF: Are you the father

- of Benjamin Wheeler?

- Yes.

KOSKOFF: And did Benjamin Wheeler

die in the Sandy Hook sh**ting?

DAVID WHEELER: Yes.

Just after the two-year

anniversary,

I was on my way

to a birthday party

and I was at a gas station

and somebody just walked out

and pointed

and was like, "You're part

of that Sandy Hook hoax."

And they said,

"Look, see, she's an actor."

People were, you know,

accusing me of lying,

telling me Ben never lived,

uh, telling me that

I was going to burn in hell,

and that I would pay

for what I had done.

You know, things would be

mailed to my house.

There were, you know,

threats of r*pe and...

KOSKOFF: You were receiving

threats from people

saying they were going

to r*pe you?

Correct.

Someone came to the house.

This person demanded to see Ben.

"I know he's here.

I know he's alive."

KOSKOFF: Is this still

happening to you?

Yes.

You know, it makes you feel

like you don't matter.

You know, it makes you feel

like what you went through

doesn't matter.

Jacqueline Barden, B-A-R-D-E-N.

Daniel was our baby,

but yet,

he was so compassionate.

KOSKOFF: Did you and Mark

get threatening letters?

JACQUELINE BARDEN: Yeah.

One... I remember one saying

that they were

at Daniel's grave,

and they had peed on his grave

because they didn't think

anybody, you know,

they didn't believe

that Daniel was buried.

And another letter...

KOSKOFF: These letters came

to your home?

- What's that?

- KOSKOFF: These letters

- came to your home?

- Yeah. And then another letter

was that they were gonna...

they were gonna dig

Daniel's grave up,

because he wasn't there,

to prove it.

My name is Mark Barden.

That was a very typical moment.

He was a very affectionate

little boy.

It was grueling.

It was excruciating,

mostly because we had

to re-expose ourselves

to the very thing

that we were trying to stop.

To stand there in the austerity

of a court of law

and to expose all of that.

It's about the most vulnerable

one can feel.

So, it's a whole lot.

It's a whole lot of everything

all at once.

Daniel's grave, um,

this is so sacrosanct

and hallowed

a place for my family,

and to hear that people

were desecrating it

and urinating on it

and threatening to dig it up...

I... I don't know

how to articulate to you

what that feels like,

but that's where we are.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

ALEX: Hello everybody.

I'm here for the four-year

planned show trial...

MATTEI: Alex Jones.

He's under subpoena to be here.

So, you know, there's real

consequences for him

if he doesn't show.

ALEX: They're using these

families as pawns.

I have questioned hundreds

of major events,

and I've always done it

from a good place.

That's why I have

a giant audience

of millions and millions

of loyal listeners,

because they know, unlike

the corporate controlled media,

I try to tell the truth.

These people lie on purpose.

That's a big difference.

I've made mistakes by accident.

They're lying on purpose,

and they've misrepresented

everything I've said and done.

Find the real Alex Jones

at infowars.com.

And we have the number one book

in the world,

The Great Reset:

And the w*r for the World,

that exposes the globalists,

Klaus Schwab, the WEF,

and the New World Order.

And that's why they're coming

after me, trying to silence me,

because liberty and freedom

is popular,

and they will not silence me,

and we will not be stopped,

and America will prevail

peacefully

with justice and liberty.

The answer to the 1984 tyranny

is 1776. Thank you very much.

(REPORTERS CHATTERING)

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING)

ALISSA: I didn't know

how I would react

when I saw him in person.

You know, in Texas he was on,

"I'm a good guy,

I'm your friend,"

and that tone was completely

different in Connecticut.

He was angry.

He looked pissed.

Like, "I don't want to be here,

I shouldn't be here."

He wouldn't even look at us

in Connecticut.

He wouldn't acknowledge us.

It was like

we didn't even exist.

He didn't want to say like,

"Hey, I'm sorry,"

'cause he wasn't.

He wasn't sorry.

There's a part of you that...

wants him to feel what you feel.

See what he has caused.

You want some moment...

of connecting

with this abuser...

where he can just have

an inkling of respect for you,

or a moment of reflection.

And he wasn't going

to give us that.

MATTEI: The lie you spread...

for years and years

was that the families behind me

were actors, correct?

- I can't answer...

- MATTEI: That's a yes or no.

- NORM PATTIS: No, objection.

- (STAMMERS) It's too complex...

- Sorry.

- PATTIS: Motion in limine.

MATTEI: Mr. Jones, for years

and years and years,

you acknowledge that among

the things that you said

about Sandy Hook

was that it was fake?

- Yes?

- Yes.

- MATTEI: Synthetic?

- Yes.

- MATTEI: Manufactured?

- Yes.

- MATTEI: With actors?

- Yes.

- MATTEI: Total hoax?

- Yes.

MATTEI: You acknowledge that,

repeatedly, you mocked parents?

I'm... no, not parents.

I said Robbie Parker

looked fake to me.

ROBBIE: He carries

a presence with him.

There's an energy with him,

and it draws people,

even people who are

disgusted by him, as I am.

You still can't take

your eyes off of him, right?

You can't help but

follow him around,

and I hate to admit that.

MATTEI: Robbie Parker's

sitting right here.

And for years, you put a target

on his back, didn't you?

PATTIS: Objection to

the form of that, judge.

BARBARA BELLIS: Overruled.

MATTEI: You put a target

on his back,

just like you did

every single parent

and loved one sitting here,

didn't you?

- PATTIS: Objection, judge.

- ALEX: No, I didn't.

- MATTEI: No, you didn't?

- PATTIS: That's argumentative.

- There's no... It's speculative.

- BELLIS: Let's move on.

MATTEI: These are real people.

You know that, Mr. Jones?

PATTIS: Objection. I think

you just told him to move on.

ALEX: Just like all the Iraqis

you liberals k*ll and love.

You're just...

You're unbelievable.

You switch on emotions

on and off when you want.

You're... It's just

ambulance-chasing.

MATTEI: Why don't you show

a little respect, Mr. Jones?

PATTIS: Objection, judge.

I think you get what you give

in this courtroom.

Objection.

MATTEI: You have families

in this courtroom here

that lost children,

sisters, wives,

moms.

Is this a struggle session?

Are we in China?

I've already said I'm sorry

hundreds of times,

and I'm done saying I'm sorry.

I didn't progenerate this.

I wasn't the first person

to say it.

American g*n owners didn't like

being blamed for this

as the Left did,

so we rejected it mentally

and said it must not be true.

But I legitimately thought

it might have been staged,

and I stand by that,

and I don't apologize for it.

MATTEI: And don't apologize,

Mr. Jones.

Please, don't apologize.

No, I've already apologized

to the parents

- over and over again.

- MATTEI: Because we know...

- I don't apologize to you.

- PATTIS: Objection. Objection.

I don't apologize to you.

MATTEI: You're gonna

do it again, aren't you?

- PATTIS: Objection, Judge.

- MATTEI: Aren't you?

- No, I'm not.

- MATTEI: You're not?

PATTIS: Objection. Objection.

Argumentative.

I don't apologize to you.

This is your homepage, right?

Infowars.com?

- ALEX: Yes.

- MATTEI: Three weeks ago.

A little bit bigger, please.

Just the part

with the survey there.

And you're asking your audience,

"What will be the most likely

deep state false flag

- ahead of the midterms," right?

- ALEX: Yes.

MATTEI: What's the first option?

Mass sh**ting,

but I didn't write the poll.

MATTEI: Excuse me, sir.

Mass sh**ting?

Yes.

And you're inviting

your audience, even now,

even after all this, to suspect

that the next people,

the next Robbie Parker,

the next family are actors, too.

- PATTIS: Objection, argumentative.

- No.

- BELLIS: Overruled.

- I'm done, Your Honor.

(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)

MATTEI:

What I ultimately wanted to do

was to get the jury to see

just how dangerous this man

is likely to be in the future.

This is gonna happen again,

and he knows

what he's gonna say.

You know, what you want

is the truth

of, like, the rottenness

at his core to be revealed.

Uh, you get a lot of that

through the videos,

but until you see him

in court do his thing,

it's different.

You got parents laughing,

going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!"

and then going... (FAKE SOBS)

Method acting, going...

(FAKE SOBS)

(WHIMPERING) "Oh, my child!"

I mean, it's just ridiculous.

MATTEI: Is that what you did,

Mr. Parker?

The fake crying,

the method acting?

ROBBIE: No.

MATTEI: This is a few

months later.

And then you've got parents

laughing, going, "Ha ha ha,"

and then they walk over

to the camera and go...

(FAKE CRIES)

MATTEI: That was September 2014.

Mr. Parker,

your family's still deluged

with the threats and harassment?

They would come in these waves.

And it was almost like I knew

when Alex Jones said something,

because we would get a huge

wave of stuff,

more and more and more att*cks.

I started to hate

that... that video.

MATTEI: That video, you mean

the video of yourself?

Exactly.

MATTEI: Exhibit 20A,

December 27th, 2014.

And then the parents laughing,

and then one second later,

doing the actor breathing

to cry.

I mean, it's just...

It's just over the top.

- MATTEI: 2015 now.

- ROB DEW: Stinks to high heaven.

You got the actor father

who comes out,

gets into character.

MATTEI: On November 18th, 2016.

ALEX: Then we see footage

of one of the reported fathers

of the victims, Robbie Parker,

doing classic acting training,

where he's laughing and joking,

and they say, "Hey, we're live,"

and he goes, "Oh."

(BREATHES HEAVILY, SOBS)

I already felt like I failed

Emilie as a dad

when she was alive.

Because I...

because we sent her to school.

And I was especially starting

to feel like I was failing her

in her death,

because of what

people were saying about her.

And what they were saying

about me trying to remember her.

(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)

ROBBIE: The most powerful thing

for me about doing that was

that I finally got to put

my voice out there.

And I got to...

I got to put my experience

out there

in a way that actually

really mattered.

Like, take that press conference

that I gave.

He had taken it from me.

He defiled it. He literally just

sh*t all over

one of the most important things

I feel like I've ever done

in my life.

And so to be given

an opportunity to, like,

take that back,

that's the most precious thing

I think I can take away

from this trial.

So, I trust that the jury

has been fantastic,

and they've been very attentive,

and they're gonna do

what they feel is best,

and I'm happy

with whatever that is.

But I've got what I need

out of this already.

BELLIS: So, ladies and gentlemen

of the jury,

here you are tasked with

addressing the issue of damages,

as the court

previously determined

that the defendants are liable.

It is for you alone to decide

on the amount of damages

in this case.

MATTEI:

The verdict needs to reflect

the kind of exponential harm

that lies can now have.

And I don't think Alex Jones has

ever really appreciated that.

And people like him, and him,

need to appreciate that.

And the only way

to make them appreciate it,

I think, is to hang

a big verdict around their head.

- (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING)

- (INDISTINCT CHATTER)

ALEX: They're about to announce

the verdict.

Let's go to the audio

of the biggest show trial

in U.S. history.

(INAUDIBLE)

ALEX: The judge looks pleased.

Probably 200 million dollars.

(CHUCKLES)

I don't have any money,

so it's all a big joke.

This is their trial.

This is them on trial.

This is ambulance-chasing

on steroids.

Come on, crucify me.

Let's get it going.

Saveinfowars.com,

infowarsstore.com.

JUROR: To plaintiff

Robbie Parker.

A, defamation slash slander

damages past and future,

60 million dollars.

- Yeah!

- JUROR: B, emotional distress damages...

- Whoo!

- past and future,

60 million dollars.

Total fair, just,

and reasonable damages

to plaintiff Robert Parker

and against Alex Jones

and Free Speech Systems,

under line A and line B,

total 120 million dollars.

ROBBIE: I didn't know

how to feel,

except for just like this

big sense of like relief.

And then that sense

of validation came through.

And then that sense of, like...

like you're seen,

and you're understood,

and you're loved, and...

And I... I could feel it

from everywhere.

And it was really overwhelming.

(SOFT TRIUMPHANMUSIC PLAYING)

JUROR:

To plaintiff David Wheeler,

55 million dollars.

Yeah! Whoo!

JUROR:

To plaintiff Francine Wheeler,

total 54 million dollars.

To plaintiff Jacqueline Barden,

28,800,000 dollars.

Bravo.

JUROR:

To plaintiff Mark Barden,

57,600,000 dollars.

ROBBIE: Nine hundred

sixty-five million

is what it was.

And, um, I just remember

thinking, like,

"There's no way that Alex Jones

is going to be able to sell

enough supplements

to be able to pay that off."

Guess what? We're not scared,

and we're not going away.

So, please, go to

infowarsstore.com

and get Vitamin Mineral Fusion,

get X3.

Flood us with donations.

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING)

Today, a jury

representing our community

and our nation rendered

a historic verdict,

a verdict

against Alex Jones's lies

and their poisonous spread.

This jury bore witness

to Alex Jones's ten-year att*ck,

an att*ck that made him

very rich,

an att*ck that targeted

these families

with the lie

that they were frauds.

And all for Alex Jones's

personal profit.

All Alex Jones does

is take from you,

exploit you, lie to you,

feed your fears

and your anxieties

and your mistrust,

and the only person

that benefits

in that equation is him.

Well, that stops.

That's stopping today,

thanks to the courage

of these families.

Thank you very much.

(PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING)

MATTEI: It's the biggest verdict

in a defamation case

in United States history.

The reason that it's so big

is because there has never

been technology

capable of spreading

a lie so fast

and causing so much damage

as we have now.

I think

a really insidious problem

that we're just as a society

figuring out how to deal with,

and these cases are one way.

They're not the only way,

but I think they're going to

end up being an important way.

And we have the families

to thank for that.

BANKSTON: Why are people

willing to believe

invented, manufactured lies

that can be shut down

in a second,

that can be debunked

with the simplest of actions?

Why?

Why are they so thirsty for it?

Why are they ingesting it?

Why are they believing it?

That question goes far beyond

what happened in this case,

because I can guarantee you,

we can solve

the Alex Jones problem,

but we will not solve

the greater problem

that allowed Alex Jones

to flourish.

And Spiderman defeated

the Goblin,

and the Goblin fighting back

was still alive...

VERONIQUE:

This was his backpack.

He always had, um,

stuffed animals.

First grade homework packet,

that's what he should've

brought home that day,

and didn't get to.

This is the jacket he wore

on that fateful day.

It's just a... a way

to link with him.

Noah, he was cheated.

He was cheated of life.

And he was cheated afterwards...

of honoring that life...

by people who purported that...

you know, they were bringing

"the truth" to light.

When, in fact,

what they were doing

was desecrating his memory.

(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)

(SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES)

(MUSIC FADES)

(TENSE STRING MUSIC PLAYING)

(MUSIC CONCLUDES)
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