10x07 - The Cult

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10x07 - The Cult

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This is a terrible place.

It's out of control.

My whole life has been
turned upside down.

"You are in the pit of Hell."

What do you
think's here?

Death.

That's where the
Manson family hung out.

It makes people evil.

I feel punished
every day.

I just don't want to
wake up sometimes.

My God.

She doesn't get better,
she gets worse.

I don't know how
anybody lives here.

The pain is ridiculous.

Panic, panic, panic.

My name is Amy Allan.

I'm seeing, like, blood.

The house just feels bad.

I see dead people.

This man is completely insane.

I speak to dead people.

Okay, she doesn't
like it in there.

And they speak to me.

He likes to twist that Kn*fe.

But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real

Something paranormal
is trying to k*ll them.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

Now, does he die right
there on the spot?

I know every person,
every house has secrets.

I think it's trying
to steal my soul.

It's my job to reveal them.

You ever get touched
like that again?

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

I'm as stunned
as you guys are.

...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I don't want anything to
happen to my daughter.

...or time to get out.

His goal is to k*ll you guys.

I'm in Chatsworth, California.

It's a suburb about
an hour outside of L.A.

I got a call from
woman named Nancy.

Now, she sounded really bad
when I spoke to her.

She was crying and
said her dream house

is trying to k*ll her.

I'm really hoping Amy and
I can help this woman out.

Before Amy arrives,

I clear the area of any
leading information.

This home has a
lot of photographs,

musical instruments,

and dream catchers.

So it's important I
cover or remove them all.

When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.

God.

This particular area

is extremely negative.

There's something
with the Earth.

Extremely bad, bad, bad area.

It's just a huge,
huge black hole.

I'm hearing, "You are
literally in the pit of Hell."

You know, Nancy, when
we spoke on the phone,

you were pretty upset.

Kind of broke my heart
to hear you cry.

What's going on
with you here?

My whole life has been
turned upside down.

It's kind of like
being trapped in Hell.

I feel punished
every day.

I just don't want to
wake up sometimes.

We're gonna try to help
you out here, okay?

Thank you.

Do you live here alone?

Yeah, I'm alone.

Just me and a couple
of my kitties.

So what attracted
you to this house?

Being in
the music industry,

I wanted some peace
and quiet,

just not be
around the rat race.

I thought I was
gonna grown old here.

I really thought this was
where I was gonna die.

Have you experienced
paranormal

before you moved here?

Yes, since I was
even very young,

I've been a sensitive.

So, Nancy, you believe
you have abilities?

Yes, I've been told
many times I'm empathic.

Okay, so do me a favor
and give me a list

of what the hell's
going on in this house.

There's footsteps.

I see shadow figures.

I get physical touching.

I have nightmares.

They're terrifying.

My health just
started deteriorating.

What kind of health
issues are we talking?

Since I moved in, I started
having skeletal issues.

I have multiple sclerosis.

I have a brain tumor.

- A what?
- A brain tumor.

They monitor it and I'm
going blind in my left eye.

I can't feel my legs.

Honey, I'm sorry.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

So, I'm really glad
you guys are here.

Sounds like since
you moved here,

everything went
downhill for you.

I used to have everything.

I was the it girl.

I had it all and I
have nothing now.

It's literally
this house.

Since I walked in,

a place of happiness
turned into just

this big nightmare.

Just everything's gone.

Why the hell would
you stay here?

I put everything
into this house

and this is why
I have you here.

Okay.

'Cause I'd really
like to keep my house.

The interesting thing
here is that the living

and the dead are so meshed,

it's like they're living
in each other's realities.

The living people who live
here are way too open.

I want to say that there's
at least two sensitives

who are living who
are consistently here.

Can you elaborate
on that?

Living people have been
attracted to this place

because it's haunted.

I think that people come
here and the thing is,

is they're pulled.

I think they think most of
it's positive, but it's not.

It's really not.

Most of it's negative.

It's out of control.

It's not good.

All right, Nancy, so
what's going on in here?

I get touched.

It's almost like
caressing.

Where are you
being touched?

My arms, my hands.

How often
does that happen?

Sporadically.

Couple times a week.

It's very shocking.

Anything else physical
like that ever happen?

I wake up with bruising,

and it would be
like somebody's grabbed me.

I don't live with anybody,

so where are these
bruises coming from?

People that have a white
blood cell that's low

bruise easily.

Is that something to do
with your conditions?

No, I'm fine that way.

Okay, all right.

I'm getting a lot --
a lot of physical pain.

Something's happening
here on my neck

and a pain in my stomach.

Some of the pain I'm
having is related

to a living person.

It's like something's got them.

I think that they have a dead
person that is doing this

to them all the time.

It's a dead woman.

It's causing a lot of this pain.

There's always this pain.

Do you know who this
is happening to?

I'm damn positive it's a female.

Do you have any idea why
she's wanting to do this

to this person?

She hates them, hates them.

Feels trapped, bound.

She's making this weird
noise all the time.

It's like a combination
of growling and screaming

and wanting to bite.

Not good.

All right, Nanc, so this
is your room, I assume?

- Yes.
- Okay, so what's going on?

It's just mood swings.

I wake up angry.

It happens a lot.

It's like it's
someone else's anger.

It's not mine.
- What do you mean?

I feel like someone's maybe
attached to me somehow.

I had a friend tell me
that your outbursts affect

her being around me.

Nothing worse than
needing somebody

and then
they're not there.

Yeah.

All right, anything else?

Um, there's
shadow figures.

It looks like somebody's
passing the window.

So when you're seeing
this shadow go by,

is it the same height all
the time, different heights?

What are
we talking about?

It seems
about the same height,

that it reminds me of a man
who's probably about 5'11".

Have you ever checked
for anyone outside?

Yeah, nobody.
Nobody's there.

I don't like it back there.

There's death back there,
there's death.

Okay, this is bad.

There is a negative entity here.

What people would call
it would be a demon.

It's evil.

The living here can
hear it breathing.

They see shadow things
going back and forth.

And I'm dizzy.

Living people have
that a lot here.

All right, so what
else is going on?

I get
the worst nightmares.

It's the same dream
I've had repetitively

for several years.

Tell me
about the nightmares.

I'm curious what they are.

I started being att*cked.

I feel like this demon
thing is pulling me back.

So when you talk about
this demon in this dream,

do you see it or is
it just a feeling?

I see it with arms.

I don't really see it
like I see you.

Okay.

Do you think whatever's
here is intentionally trying

to hurt you and get
you out of here?

I don't know if it's
trying to get me out

as much as it's
trying to keep me in.

This person is having
constant nightmares,

but no one's sleeping.

Someone now has developed
breathing issues.

I thought I saw something
crawling from out under the bed,

which they might actually see.

I'm getting the
head thing again.

I don't know how
anybody lives here.

The pain is ridiculous.

So, Jodie, I was
talking to Nancy.

I understand you're
good friends with her.
Yeah.

You know, she's one of my
best friends in the world.

She feels whatever's
in this house

is causing her
health to decline.

Do you agree with that?

I do.
She is really struggling.

What used to be so easy
for her

is 1,000 times harder
than it ever used to be.

As you get older,
I mean,

I can't blame the
paranormal on my stuff.

So why do you think
it's the paranormal here?

When I met her,
she was vibrant,

vivacious,
so strong,

and just could
set her mind to anything

and accomplish it.

And now she
struggles every day.

She'll just get
angry for no reason.

She will break down,

'cause she doesn't
want to live like this.

Okay, so now as far as
experiences in the house,

have you had any?

I've just had
a really creepy feeling.

Like I don't like
being alone here.

Okay, why?

It's like someone's
standing behind you almost.

Okay.

And that makes me
really worried for her.

I was gonna ask ya,
I mean,

you gotta be worried
about her.

She's your good friend.
- Absolutely.

- Think she's in danger here?
- Yes.

What about her
moving out of here?

What's your opinion
on that?

I would really, really
like to see her go

and just experience new
energy and just have

a chance at a new life.

There's a lot of
random dead out here.

These are like shadow people,
but they're dead people.

It's possible that living
people in the neighborhood,

as well as here, have seen them.

I think all of this
going all the...way back

should be mowed down

and made into nothing.

That's how I feel
about this place.

Like all of a sudden,
I'm enraged.

Your blood pressure goes up
and your head's pounding

and you're, like,
just ready to...

like, b*at the..
out of somebody.

So Nicole, I understand

you're good friends
with Nancy.

Yes.

I've known Nancy for 12
years now, almost 13 years.

She was talking about how
bad her health has declined.

And she blames the house

and what's going on here
on it.

Do you agree with that?

I do agree.

This place is,
it's unhealthy.

It's unnatural.

I'm an extremely
sensitive person,

and I've been tormented

for about 15 years of my life
because of it.

Okay.

How about here?

Have you had any
experiences in this house?

Yes, I spent
the night here.

I had
a terrifying dream.

So Nancy told me
about her nightmares.

What are yours like?

Literally being held down,
like being pulled down

in a bed
that was in this room.

I was reaching
for the sky.

I was reaching for some
greater, higher power

and having
these clawing hands

kind of holding me back.

I felt like I was paralyzed,
like I couldn't move.

I felt nothing
in my body moved.

I'm gonna just go
out and say it.

It's a demonic dream.

Okay, so anything else?

Yeah, I would get hit in
this house all the time.

When you say hit, you
mean physically hit?

Yes.
I would feel these pains.

I would get hit
in my neck.

I've been hit in my hip.

Feels like you're
getting stabbed.

Feels like
you're getting cut.

So when this happened,

did you get a sense
that it was a human?

No,
this was not human.

This was something that
scared me and made me cry.

Would you say Nancy's
in danger here?

Yeah, I think that her
health and her life

is in danger being here.

She's sick.

She doesn't get better,
she gets worse.

And she was perfectly
fine when I met her.

So what do you
think's here?

Death.

I don't know, it's
just very loud in here.

It's very bad in here.

It's very negative in here.

There are dead that are
coming from around here

and coming and going
and coming and going.

it's like a white path and
I see a trail of death.

It's the same people
over and over again.

Somebody here is
bringing dead people,

so that's not good.

Look, I know the Manson
family's hideout

was in this area,

so I reached out to
a local crime writer.

Now, he says there was
actually another deadly cult

that operated real
close to Nancy's house.

I'm hoping this is gonna
help my investigation.

So, Mike, I know Manson
had some sort of a hideout

near my client's property.

What can you tell me
about that?

It was about 2 miles away
from your client's house,

and they called it
Spawn Ranch.

Manson gave his orders
from the ranch.

That was their home base
and he would decide

who's gonna live and
who's gonna die

and a lot of his followers
were these teenagers,

some from good homes.

It was shocking.

People said, "This
could be my daughter."

So I know in '69, Manson and
his followers wreaked havoc

through these hills here,
but refresh my memory,

what was the body count,
what happened?

9 people d*ed in
the summer of 1969.

These followers
were involved in two

of the most famous
murders in L.A. history.

One was the Sharon Tate murders
in the Hollywood Hills.

She was an actress
married to Roman Polanski.

Tate was what, almost
nine months pregnant?

- Yeah.
- Okay.

They stabbed her to
death and four others.

Next day, they go

to Leno and
Rosemary LaBianca's house,

s*ab them to death.

Was there any v*olence
on the ranch

near my client's property?

There was a m*rder
on the ranch.

This was a guy
named Donald Shea.

He was a stunt man,

sort of a ranch hand
at the Spawn Ranch

and Manson, after those
killings, was very paranoid.

He thought people were
ratting him out and he thought

this guy, Shea, was ratting
him out and had him k*lled.

Okay, so what were the
circumstances of his m*rder?

It was a grizzly k*lling.

They hit him over the head,
stabbed him repeatedly,

and then ditched his
body in the hills

just about 2 miles from
your client's property.

You know, growing up on
the streets of Brooklyn

and looking at this,
you would think,

this is a safe place
to be.

Yeah, the people who
lived here

thought it was
a safe place to be.

Turned out it wasn't.

There are
a lot of dead people.

I would say eight.

These dead people
are m*rder victims.

They were male and female.

Did you get
a timeframe?

I would say within
the last 60 years.

There is a possibility that
two of them d*ed together

or five of them d*ed together.

I saw a woman and she
was short, well-endowed,

was kind of bigger up here.

So I don't know if she
had a belly or not,

you know kind of thing.

Then there was a girl
dragging me by my left arm.

I'm having horrible
pain on my left side.

Then there's another male.

I'm getting that he
didn't die with the others

and he's in the dark and
he's tall and he's thin,

and he's young.

I'm getting hit in the
head, right temple.

I think that somebody came
here and k*lled this person.

Now, you mentioned
on the phone

there was another cult
in the area.

What can you tell me
about that one?

This is a cult that's even
closer to your client's house,

about a half mile away.

This was called The
Fountain of the World,

and it was founded by this
guy named Francis Pencovic.

Here's a picture of him.

That's his wife
next to him.

He looks the part.

Now, he's a Jewish World
w*r II vet who came to believe

that he was the reincarnation
of Jesus Christ.

He changed his name from
Francis to Krishna Venta.

They built the compound
in 1948.

About 60 followers.

Okay.

They wore robes, they
went around barefooted,

they were vegetarians,

which was a little
weird at that time.

Kind of early hippies.

All right, they're
do-gooders eating vegetables.

When did it go wrong?

Krishna Venta was not
as he appeared to be.

He had a dark side,

and he was absconding
with his followers' money.

He was taking it off
to Vegas and Reno,

losing it
at the tables.

He was sleeping with
their wives, sexual abuse,

all kinds of stuff going
on behind the scenes.

You know, one day,

two former followers
didn't want any more of this,

and they took matters
into their own hands.

What did they do?

1958, the two ex-followers
go into the compound,

go up to a building.

One of 'em's got 20 sticks
of dynamite strapped

to his body.

Blows the place
sky high.

At the end of the day,
10 people are dead,

including Krishna Venta.

All right, so everybody's
blown up here.

So did the cult end
at this point?

Surprisingly no.

It kept going for
years and years.

There's a long rumor

that Charles Manson
himself visited the cult

in about 1968

and that's where
he got some of his ideas.

I'm seeing another group
of dead people out here.

So how many are there?

There's probably about
10 or 12 of these people

and then there's a male
saying that he wanted money.

He's pissed.
He's pissed.

I'm being slapped
across the face.

I'm on my knees.

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So far I've got a client
who believes the activity

in her house is
trying to k*ll her

on a property close to the
compounds of two deadly cults.

But I want to see if
there's anything else.

Searching through old records,
I find a French land baron

named Miguel Leonis.

Turns out Miguel used
to own Nancy's property

and used any means
necessary to protect it.

So I'm headed over to
meet a local historian

who says that as
soon as this guy got

to my client's property,

he started acting real
violent and unstable.

So Dinna,
I appreciate

you helping me out
with this case.

What do we know
about this guy

that owned
my client's property?

His name
was Miguel Leonis.

He was from the Basque
region of France,

and he arrived in
the area in 1854.

All right, so how
does this guy

wind up
with my client's property?

In 1859, he enters into
common law marriage

with a Chumash Indian
woman named Espiritu.

This is where Miguel
and Espiritu lived.

This is the actual
house they lived in?

Yes.

Okay, so now you mentioned
on the phone that this guy

had, like,
a violent streak going.

What was that all about?

He was obsessed with building
his real-estate empire

and his growing fortune.

This land, this ranch,

he basically stole
from his father-in-law.

How'd he do that?

He convinced his
father-in-law that in order

to protect the ranch
from the government,

he should sign title of
the property over to him

as a temporary measure.

Okay.

Never, ever did he
transfer the ownership back

to his father-in-law.

- Really?
- Yes.

What happens next
with this guy?

Now he has his sites
set on acquiring land

owned by his neighbors.

Okay,
so how's he do that?

Hounding people off their
property, burning crops,

bribing judges,
intimidating witnesses.

Which resulted in
control of 11,000 acres

of property
in this area.

Okay, so this guy was
a real piece of work.

Absolutely.

What ends up
happening to Leonis?

While traveling over
the Cahuenga Pass

with three others
in a heavy wagon

full of firewood,
he somehow fell

off his wagon

and got crushed
underneath the wheels.

It's just very bad in here.

This is no good.

This is a terrible place.

I feel like I'm falling
into the ground here.

I think the demon lives
in here

and there's this darkness
with the demon.

It's horrible.

And how would the living
be affected by that?

It makes people evil.

I think a male d*ed
here from this thing.

I don't know how, but I think
that this thing k*lled a male.

Another thing caught
my eye in research.

One of the previous owners
of Nancy's property d*ed

in a tragic car accident
back in the '70s.

I'm heading over to meet
a retired L.A.P.D. officer

who dug into the case file
for me.

She says there was no
justice for the victim.

So, Cheryl, I appreciate

you helping me out
with this case.

Before we get
to the accident,

what can you tell
me about the victim?

Alice Lansman was 29 years
old, California native.

She and her husband,
Mark, purchased the house

that you're looking
into back in 1973.

Okay, so they purchased
my client's house in 1973,

but I know the accident
happened a few years later.

What exactly happened?


On January 11, 1977, at
approximately 10:30 p.m.,

Alice was driving
about three miles

from where
she lived with Mark.

Okay.

She entered the intersection
and was broad-sided

by another vehicle.

The other driver was driving
about 70 miles per hour

at the time of impact
and it was so intense,

that it literally knocked
the engine out of the car

that was being driven
by Alice at the time.

Really?
Does she die at the scene?

What happened?
- She did die at the scene.

She suffered brain trauma,
fractured skull,

and according to the
coroner's report,

she punctured her
spleen and her liver.

Wow, this kid got hit
really, really bad.

It's almost a good thing
she did die immediately.

Now, what about the
driver that hit her?

Did she get hurt?
- Actually she did.

She received facial lacerations
and she was transported

to the hospital for
medical treatment

and was ultimately
arrested there

for felony manslaughter.

But according
to the records,

there was no indication
that she ever served time.

It looks like the case
just got dropped.

It just went away.

But there was no
justice for Alice,

'cause she never
served a day in jail.

Correct.

There's a dead woman
with me right now.

She's white, thin, she's young.

She's probably,
like, in her 20s.

She says --
She's trying to stop me.

She doesn't want
to go back here.

And she says, "Turn around,
you don't want this."

And then she just
shows me blood.

She has got blood all over
her, just fear, fear, fear.

I saw several horrifying
things during my walk,

but two stood out.

First, the dead woman I saw
attacking a living person.

The deceased female is
definitely a small build.

She's always pushing
the living person's head

and shoulder apart

and the person is miserable.

Next, I described how the
demon showed itself to me.

It had really thick, black hair.

The face was like a skull
without the jaw.

Amy,
is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy
and I have completed

our investigations, we're
ready to reveal our findings

to each other and our
clients for the first time.

Amy, I'd like you
to meet Nancy.

She lives here alone and
was hoping to grow old

and die in this house.

She still thinks
she's gonna die,

just sooner
than expected.

Nicole's
her longtime friend.

She's really worried
about Nancy

and thinks she's
in serious danger.

Now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,

I'll ask her to
describe her walk.

The second I walked
onto your property,

I could tell that
there's definitely

environmental factors
that are at play here.

The energy around this
property is so intense

that I believe it would
be an attractive area

for a sensitive to go to.

It almost draws you in,
you're thinking,

"Whoo, I feel good here,"

but it's a false positive.

It's not actually good,
and the damage

that it does to your
body is ridiculous.

I did get that there were
at least two sensitives

that were having experiences
in this location.

I've been told
I'm an empath.

Yeah, I can feel
when people die.

- Really? Ew.
- It's awful.

You feel like you have some
kind of sensitivity, don't you?

Yes, I have felt people
take their lives.

You have to learn how
to kind of block it out,

but you get used to it.

- She doesn't want the gift.
- No, I don't.

God bless you, girl,
but I don't want it.

Because there's
open sensitives,

it's drawing a lot of dead
from surrounding areas.

These are, like, shadow people.

But they're dead people.

It's possible that living
people in the neighborhood,

as well as here, have seen them.

Amy, Nancy told me
she sees

shadow figures
outside her house.

In the purple room,
there's windows,

and you could always
catch the tail end

of the guy going by
the window.

Anybody's who's
stayed at my home,

they would answer
the door, like, nonstop.

And they were like,
"There's nobody here."

Wow.

This negative energy isn't
just drawing the dead in,

it's also causing emotional
issues within the house.

Extreme mood changes
with the living

and what it brought out
was sudden anger

and being suddenly
enraged out of nowhere,

and I literally felt
blood pressure going up,

and feeling this want
to b*at the...out of somebody.

Nancy, tell Amy
how you've changed,

as far as your
personality goes.

Well, what you just described
is exactly what happens.

I get, out of nowhere,
just that angry.

Really angry, like I
want to k*ll my cat.

Hands-clenched anger.

And I am not that person.

So what else?

I saw five people sitting
on a couch together.

Then there were two more

that were sitting
on a loveseat.

They d*ed together.

And then I saw a male,
and he was, like,

in the back, in the shadows,
elongated, thin.

They all seemed
somehow to kind of

know each other
or be related.

I think they're coming
to your home

trying to seek help.

They would have d*ed
within the last 60 years.

It was all
violent deaths.

The only man
who could speak,

I believe
he was bludgeoned

or something with his head,
because it was horrible.

And then, when I walked
up to your front door,

there was someone else
there, ready to k*ll.

It scares me.

It sounds a lot
like the history

I'm sure everybody at
this table knows about.

- Right, the Manson family.
- Exactly.

What you probably
didn't know is that

in the summer of '69,
the Manson family actually

hid out about
2 miles from here.

This is --
I don't like this.

When I went to meditate,

I was witnessing the m*rder
of Sharon Tate.

I was literally
freaking the...out.

My God, I don't
know how you do this.

Manson's hideout is very
close to your property.

It's called Spahn Ranch.

Well, Spahn Ranch
is where he gave

all the orders for
the murders in '69.

I got a couple of photos.

I'm sure you guys have
seen these before.

They're on a rampage,
the family k*lled

a total of nine people,
plus an unborn baby.

5 people were k*lled
on August 8, 1969,

which included Sharon Tate
and four others.

The next night, two
more were m*rder*d,

Leno
and Rosemary LaBianca.

Those murders happened

kind of far from here,
in the city,

but one person was m*rder*d
right at the ranch.

Three weeks after
the Tate-LaBianca murders,

Manson started
getting paranoid

with somebody ratting him
out to the cops,

and he blamed
a local ranch hand,

and it was a stunt guy
named Donald Shea.

The family took this guy
out for a ride and b*at him

over the head with a pipe and
then stabbed him to death.

Then they dumped his
body in the hills

2 miles from here.

Now, do you think
the Manson family

is who you saw roaming
around Nancy's property?

I think it's the victims.

- The victims.
- Yes.

They're seeking her
because she's a sensitive?

Yes, because
she's a sensitive, yes.

I don't know
what to do with it.

I've got dead people seeking
me, but I can't help.

Anything else?

I'm in the living room,

and I ran into
a dead older female.

She was very tiny.

But, very big problem,
she has attached herself

to a living person
and wants revenge.

She was yelling that
she felt trapped

by the living
people in the house.

She is very physical.

I felt bad pain
in my neck,

my upper back, my left
shoulder, and my stomach.

And then
she hit me in the head.

Um, so I felt like
the living there

would definitely
have experiences

with this female.

Well, we've got a lot
to talk about here.

Tell her how you
wake up bruised.

Um, I get bruises,
legs or arms or, like,

somebody's pressure
grabbed, you know?

Now, Nicole, you've told
me about you getting...

Hit, yeah.

I got hit in the neck
and I got hit in my hip.

You know, I want to
ask you something.

Now, Nancy looks good.

She looks healthy,
right?

She has the health problems
of an 80-year-old person,

and I'm wondering...
- Wow.

...if it's related
to this old woman.

I have primary progressive
multiple sclerosis.

I have a brain tumor.
- What?

I have -- there's
just a laundry list.

I mean...
- What?

...going blind in my left eye.

What?

Sometimes I can't walk.

- Or even get up out of bed.
- Yeah.

Whether you're aware
or not, you're a medium,

but because you're not
protecting yourself,

you're still going
to absorb, um, deaths.

All right, so when
this old lady's attacking,

what's it look like?

I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.

You're not gonna
like this.

And this is all the time?

All the time.

'Cause she lives
on your back.

This is heavy.
I'm so sorry, Nancy.

There was one more thing

that I was
very worried about.

I'm looking into the hall,

and there's this
little dark thing going by.

About the size of a child.

It has sharp nails.

And it is evil.

Pure...evil.

What I saw specifically was
what people call a demon,

and all it wants to do
is cause harm, okay?

I think that the living
might hear it breathing.

It does sound kind of like
a rattling when it breathes.

It can also be physical.

Saw that it caused
terrible nightmares.

I don't see how you can
sleep in that house.

Nancy, tell Amy about the
recurring nightmares you have.

I go up the stairs, I start
getting att*cked by...

I don't know what it is.

When I wake up, I am
literally fighting,

trying to pull
myself away from it.

The first time that I
had ever spent the night,

I was being held
down by something

that was literally
restraining me to the bed.

I was so scared.

I knew I was gonna die.

Okay, did you get
a good look at it?

I had a sketch
done of what I saw.

Oof.

My God.

This is so scary.

What the hell is that?

That is the creepiest thing.

This makes me...
it makes me angry,

and I feel so bad for you.

I don't even know what
to say about this,

and it's not even human, so how
am I supposed to fight this?

Well, you know, she
basically turned out

and told me, "I feel whatever's
here is gonna k*ll me."

I mean,
is this a possibility?

Well, yeah,
that's what I think.

My God.

That is so scary.

This is awful.

This is my first house.

I was excited,
I bought it by myself,

and I just thought I was
gonna be there forever.

Well, Nancy, you've been
through hell and then some.

I was hoping we would have
better news for you tonight,

but now I'm gonna answer
your big question.

Can you stay here?

And if so,
what's it gonna take?

And for that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.

I think
you know what's coming.

You absolutely just
can't stay here.

The environmental factors
alone,

and what it has done
to your body,

and what it would continue
to do to your body,

it's just
not healthy for you.

So with that being said,
the first thing

I'd like you to do
is to relocate.

The second thing that
you need to do is to have

a reiki master and
a psychic knower come

on the day that you're going
to leave the house forever.

The reiki master needs
to remove the dead woman

from your back

and then proceed
to cut all attachments.

Once she's removed,
then the psychic knower

will then get her
gone, moved over.

This is gonna be difficult.

Listen, you can do
everything you're doing

at this house
someplace else.

Yeah.

I know it's not what
you want to hear, Nancy,

but you cannot get
any worse than this.

This is horrific
and terrifying,

and you can live the rest
of your life sick,

or you can take a chance
and maybe start over.

You can do this.

You're near death.
You understand that, right?

This ain't a joke.

My God.

I just didn't know
how bad it was.

I know it's a hard
pill to swallow,

and it's a lot to
ask of you right now,

but are you gonna
take a word of advice

and get the hell out
of this freaking place?

God.

Yes.
- Okay.

- You gonna help her out, Nicole?
- Of course.

I've always been there
for her.

We got a start.

We got a compass now,
we got a start,

and we'll get you
through it.

I'm sure I can
find another place.

Thank you.

It's never easy
telling someone

they need to leave their home.

But in this case,
it's the only option.

If Nancy does move
out and gets the help

of a reiki master
and a psychic knower,

she can free herself
of negative attachments

and begin a fresh
start someplace new.
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