11x04 - Not My Child

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11x04 - Not My Child

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There's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.

My daughter, she
would cry and stare

out the window
and then laugh.

I would always sleepwalk
and have night terrors.

I thought something
was taking over her.

Do you think
he's dangerous?

Yes, he's enjoying
causing fear.

A lot of dead
people in one spot.

He could more than
likely k*ll you.

I don't like this guy.

And I just feel fear.

My name is Amy Allan.

This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.

I see dead people.

They have pain
that they suffered.

I speak to dead people.

She hates them, hates them.

And they speak to me.

But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.

It's a demon.
It's Satan.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

What was the body count,
what happened?

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

I don't know if
it's a demon or not,

but it sure as hell
looks like one.

It's my job to reveal them.

I feel like I'm crazy.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

I don't even want
to show you this.

...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.

...or time to get out.

You have to get out.

I'm out here in Jefferson City.
It's the capital of Missouri.

I got a call from
a young couple.

Activity got so bad for them,

they had to pack up their bags,

grab the kids, and
get the hell out.

Now they got
a hell of a problem.

They can't afford
to keep the house,

but they know the house
is dangerous,

so they refuse to sell it.

These guys are
desperate and we hope

we can help them find a way out.

Before Amy arrives,

I sweep the area looking
for any leading information.

This house has a lot of
photos and religious symbols,

so it's important that I
cover or remove them all.

When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.

There's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.

****

That was weird.

Like I got a physical
push back on, like, my shoulder.

There's so much energy,
it's insane.

It's like this isn't even here,

there's a **** whirlwind
of **** energy,

like a vortex.

So, Erin, when
we spoke on the phone,

it sounded like things
were crazy here.

Yeah, we bought
this house in .

The moment we walked in,
fell in love with it

and six months after living
there, we had to move,

we literally one
Monday morning said,

"We're out," and put an offer
on a house two days later.

Was there something that
happened that kind of,

that was it,
you had to get out?

Yeah, my daughter
had had night terrors

and sleptwalked
every single night.

She would cry and stare out
the window and then laugh.

She was very weird,
she was very eerie.

What was
the final straw?

My daughter was
in the bathtub

and she literally looked
over at me and said,

"Mommy, what would
happen if I threw

my baby brother
out the window?"

What?

Yep,
and I said, "Baby girl,

we would never say that,
we don't joke about that."

And a couple minutes later,
she started crying,

and she said, "Mommy
I did not say that.

My brain told me
to say that.

I promise I did not say that,
I would never say that."

Do you think she
was being possessed

or do you think she
was being influenced?

I mean, as a mother,
I don't even want to say

that she was
being possessed,

it makes me sick,
but, yeah.

Okay, so now that your
daughter's in this other house,

is she back to normal?

She is, it's a night and day
different situation with her.

When you were in the house,
who was living here?

We're a family of four.

It's me, and my husband's
name is Aaron also,

and then Reina is
and Titus is now .

This is a very
unusual case for us,

you guys are already
out of the house.

If we can fix what's
going on here,

we'll give you
the tools for it,

would you move back in?

I don't know, even being
here gives me anxiety.

Alright, so do me a favor
and give me a list

of what the hell's
going on here.

Footsteps, voices,

electronics
turning on and off,

apparitions,
my health declined.

What's going on?

I felt like I was getting
the life drained out of me.

It was like it was
trying to make me weak,

so that
I couldn't fight back

and I couldn't
protect my daughter.

Sometimes I thought
I was just crazy.

It's a lot of residual
**** going on here.

Would this residual
affect the living?

Yeah, you're
feeling fear, panic,

and kind of like disoriented.

I think that could hit
you if you're depressed.

It could make you lethargic.

You might have dreams about it.

I spent a lot
of time up here.

This was my office.

Every night
when we went to bed,

basically we would hear
noises from up here.

So, banging
or scratching.

The house would
just start rumbling.

Okay, I mean, things
have settled down

at night and it's
quiet, but, you know,

it's something Amy may be
able to help us out with.

Now, is anything else
going on?

Yeah, as I was cleaning
out my daughter's room,

we were packing up
all of our stuff

and I looked over
and there was a man

standing in her doorway.

He was tall and thin

and he had an old-fashioned
suit and a top hat.

Give me an age.

, .

Alright, so with all
this activity going on,

what the hell do
you think this house

is asking of you
or wants from you?

Sometimes I think it
wants to scare us,

sometimes I think it
wants to control us

and sometimes I think
it wants

to suck the life
out of us.

I keep seeing a doctor.

This guy was just always,
like, super stressed.

I feel like people
are seeing him.

This seems pretty consistent,

like it could be any
time of day or night

and more when they're having,
like, taking a shower.

I don't like him now.

Do you think
he's dangerous?

Yes, I do, because
of the knowledge

he has about the body,
he's enjoying causing fear

and he's enjoying
intimidating these people.

His ultimate goal, really,
isn't to k*ll anybody,

but he could if he wanted to.

This is where most of
the things happened to me.

Okay, like what?

When I slept, I had
nightmares all the time.

I remember one
very vividly,

to the point where I
would recognize the people

in it if I saw
them on the street.

What happened
in that dream?

I was walking
on a set of stairs

and there was
an older woman

and she was holding
a baby and that baby

was frustrating her.

And she b*at the baby's head
against the stairs.

So, was anybody else

having these vivid nightmares
like you?

Yeah, Reina definitely had
some terrible nightmares.

Anything else?

I had something lay on
top of me and trap me

for about minutes,
it smothered me.

Alright,
so what happened?

I was asleep
and I woke up

and something was wrapping
its body on me.

I couldn't move
and I couldn't scream

and I couldn't ask
for help.

Did it feel
like a person's body

or just like
a mass on you?

It was a big, dark mass
just smothering me.

So while you were
getting pinned down,

what sense did you get?

It felt more like

it liked taking
control of me.

The doctor likes to
kind of t*rture people

and he can get physical.

Somebody's in here
trying to sleep

and I saw him bolt
out of that bathroom

and they're seeing this
thing coming at them.

I'm being **** att*cked.

I'm being charged by this thing,

I don't know what
the **** it is.

What are they
seeing then?

More of like a black ball thing,
but, like, fast.

They're and
it's in their face,

you know, like freaking 'em out.

Definitely like,
"I'm gonna hurt you"

is the feeling that
they're getting with it.

They're waking up,
they look over,

this thing charges them,
the next thing they know

is that they're being
pushed on and touched.

He's like doing weird ****,

like giving them "examinations,"

but it's like obviously
not appropriate,

so they're feeling violated.

It's **** weird!

So Reina, I was
talking to Mommy today

and she said
when you lived here,

you were having
a tough time.

Now, can you tell me
about some of the things

that were going on?

I would always sleepwalk
and have night terrors.

Do you remember getting
up and sleepwalking

or waking up from it?

No?
No.

Do you remember the
nightmares you were having?

No.

Okay.

Anything else?

Yes, I remember voices.

Do you remember
what was said?

When I was by the stairs,
I heard a girl say hi.

And did you hear it
in your ear,

or did you hear it
in your head?

I heard it in my ear.

In your ear, okay.

Now, Reina, Mommy
told me about a time

that a voice told
you to do something

bad to your brother,
do you remember that?

Yes, I think
it was a man.

That told you to
hurt your brother?

You didn't come up
with that yourself?

No.

But you don't hear those
voices anymore, do you?

No.
That's good.

So, Reina, this is
a real pretty room.

If we can fix this,
the problem here,

would you want to come
back and stay here?

- No.
- No?

Is it because you were
afraid when you were here?

A little bit afraid.

Yeah, okay, honey.

And you don't want that
stuff to happen again?

Okay.

I'm seeing a teenage boy.

He has brain damage.

His energy is all weird.

Okay, I'm seeing
somebody getting

literally thrown
down the stairs.

Physically picked up and thrown.

Somebody choking, choking.

The teenage boy is up
here with some man.

What is
their relationship?

I think
it's father and son.

The thing about his
kid is this kid,

who has brain damage, he
does cause a lot of problems.

He doesn't know
how to communicate,

so then he'll get really enraged

when people aren't paying
attention or responding.

And then he causes,
like, issues.

So, Aaron, I was talking
to your wife

and she was talking
to me about stuff

going on with Reina.

Might have been influenced
by something in the house.

Do you agree with that?

You know, the sleepwalking
was -- was creepy

and I noticed that it was
happening every single night.

I thought something was --

something was
taking over her.

And then in the morning, she
had no recollection of it.

That must have
broke your heart.

I was angry, just
angry at the situation,

'cause I couldn't fix it.

Do you believe
in this stuff?

Before, not really, you know,
I'm a former police officer,

former Marine, it was
hard for me to believe

until I had
my own experiences.

So you were
a Marine as well?

Yes.

Okay, Semper Fi, brother.

Now, as far as experiences,

what can you tell me
that you've had?

In our bedroom,
above was the attic

and I always heard
a loud banging noise,

which I could describe
as someone dropping a box

and then getting
upset and kicking it,

'cause you would hear
a slide.

Interesting.

When I was talking
to your wife,

she mentioned
the same noises.

Is it possible it was
just an old-house noise?

You know, at first
I thought it was,

but that space above
the room, there's no floor.

So, a loud noise like that
doesn't make any sense.

Right, okay.

Anything else?

Every time I come
into the basement,

I always feel
like someone --

someone's jumping
on my back.

Okay, so you're telling me
you're feeling that right now?

Right now, yeah.

It feels like,
just, almost like,

like a lighter person,
like they have

their legs wrapped around
my waist and on my --

almost like a kid would
be holding onto me.

It stays with me until
I leave this room.

If we can fix it, would
you consider coming back?

No, this house
terrifies me.

Okay.

As a former Marine,
a cop,

if you sold
this house tomorrow,

do you think you'd be putting
the other people in danger?

Yes, %.

Okay.

The kid, the teenage boy, makes
me fearful for the living.

When he freaks out,
he will lash out

by punching people
or pushing people.

And because there's
so many stairs here,

if you're in the wrong
place and he freaks out,

he could cause somebody
accidentally more harm.

He's so uncontrollable
and unpredictable.

He'll, like, throw a fit
and he'll, like, be stomping

and screaming and yelling
and slamming things.

He has PK, too.

So, he's able to move
and affect things

with his energy, so it's like,

a double, you know,
kind of whammy there

for living people who
are experiencing this.

It's just like, "Look at me.
Look at me"

or "Hear me, see me."

He's bad.

I would've had to been blind
to miss this first lead.

There's this huge prison,
just down the street

from the client's house.

So, I made some calls
and tracked down

the last deputy warden
of the place,

who agreed to meet with me.

He says the state pen
was known as

the bloodiest acres
in America.

So, before we get
to all the bloodshed,

curious when did
this place open?

It opened in ,
the week that

the Alamo battle was
going on in Texas.

Okay.

I've got a photo here
from about .

So, obviously
things got bad here,

but when did that start?

Well, Steve, it almost started
from the very beginning.

The conditions were
absolutely horrific,

where you had no heat
in these units,

inmates that complained
about lice,

about putrid food.

I've actually got
a picture here, Steve,

and you can see the
men in their stripes.

Those men are from
punishment hall

and they could be
whipped up to lashes.

It was a very
difficult institution.

Okay,
this place is huge.

I mean, how many prisoners
were here at one time?

Up in the 's, there
was upwards of , .

So, this prison was one
of the largest prisons

in the United States.

So Mark, I gotta figure,
with all these prisoners,

the conditions
and everything,

there had to be
some riots, right?

Yes, there were
a number of riots.

The biggest one
was in .

Five offenders were
actually k*lled

and about -some
were injured

and here's all the
b*rned-out buildings,

so it was really
quite horrific.

How many people d*ed
here over the years?

I think upwards
of , .

, ?

Yes,
not all from v*olence.

That's a lot of dead
people in one spot.

So, you said there was
over , inmates here,

anybody
I might have known of?

Yes.

Probably our most infamous
inmate was James Earl Ray

and there's a photograph
of him.

He escaped from here
in April of ,

he k*lled Dr. King
in April of ' .

Alright, so I know Missouri
has the death penalty.

Was there any executions
right here in this prison?

Yes, there were a total
of by lethal gas

and the very first one
by lethal injection

occurred here in .

Suffice it to say,

bloodiest acres
is pretty accurate.

Pretty accurate,
yes, sir.

I am getting like
a lot of screaming

and yelling around here and
it's all of these people.

They seem really
close and it doesn't

feel like that long ago.

There's a great deal of time

where there's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.

But, you know, this is
quite a few years of this

and it seems like
more men than women.

They're bad, bad people.

So far, I've got
a family too freaked out

to live in their own
home on a property

near an abandoned prison
where about , people d*ed.

But I want to see if
there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find a woman
named Violet Ramsey,

who owned property
next to my clients

in the mid- 's.

Turns out,
she was a freed sl*ve.

You know, it's pretty
unusual for a freed sl*ve

to end up owning
a bunch of land.

So, I called a local historian

and she looked into it for me.

She says Violet Ramsey's
story is amazing

and definitely something
I'm gonna want to know about.

So Dr. Greene, I appreciate
you meeting with me.

This woman I came
across in my research

sounds pretty incredible.

I mean, what can you
tell me about her?

Violet Ramsey was born
in in Kentucky.

She was brought to Missouri
by her sl*ve holder.

By , she's able to
purchase her freedom.

Six months later, she
buys a house next

to the property that
you're investigating.

Okay.

To be able to do
that was unusual.

What happens next
with her?

For seven years, Violet
works as a laundress

and she is able to,
in ,

purchase the freedom
of her husband, Elijah,

and her youngest son,
Josiah.

years later, the
three of them are able

to purchase the freedom
of her older son, Harrison.

So now,
they're all together.

Do we know anything
about the husband, Elijah?

Yes, in the census,
we know that Elijah

was a teamster
and a farmer

and Violet is still listed
as a laundress.

Looking at this, though,

it looks like they had
quite a bit of assets.

Yes, they never
stopped working.

They bought six
additional plots of land

in the neighborhood,
so much so,

that their children were
able to donate acres

of land
to Lincoln University,

where I've taught
for years.

So for a woman
all on her own,

she achieved quite a bit.

Exactly.

To amass the amount of land
and personal property

that she
and her family amassed,

that was, that was
really phenomenal.

So, it feels like
this is where that man

and his son who has
brain damage stay.

Any idea
who the man was?

I think he worked
here at some point.

A caretaker or some ****

Did he live here?

I think he did, yeah.

I think he, like, just took
care of everything,

like the yard, the house.

I think that you would feel sick

in this room if you stayed
in here for a while.

Weird.

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Another thing caught
my attention in research.

A former owner of the property
had to go

to the funerals of four
of his own children.

So, I called up
a local genealogist,

who's helped me on another case

and she says losing
the kids was just

the start of this
guy's troubles.

Well, Mary,
it's good to see you again.

I appreciate you helping
me out with this.

So you mentioned
on the phone,

this guy had
a pretty tragic life

with losing four kids.

Before we even get
to that,

do you know anything
about him?

Yes, I have
a picture of him.

His name was
Phillip Thomas Miller.

He was
a store owner originally,

but then he became warden
of the state penitentiary.

You know, Mary, I'm not sure
if you're aware or not,

but my client's
house is right there.

That red-brick
building on the right.

Do we know when he
acquired the property here?

He acquired
the property about

and then he moved his wife
and young family there.

I do have this picture
of her.

You told me on the phone,

he buried four
of his children.

Yes.

Okay, what's the story
with that?

Two of them d*ed
as infants,

then he lost his daughter
Mattie

at age of meningitis.

I have an article
here about that.

So that's three,
what's the four?

His son d*ed
at the age of .

Okay,
do we know from what?

We're not exactly sure.

Right, now, you
mentioned on the phone

that after
the kids all d*ed,

that he still had more
troubles, what happened?

Phillip was in debt
to the tune of $ in .

That's about $ ,
in today's money.

What does he do?

He was forced to sell
his property at a loss.

Does he stay
in the area?

He does, he moves
about , feet away

into a much smaller place.

Okay, so things went
downhill for this guy.

Yes.

I'm seeing this doctor,
doctor, doctor guy.

Was this guy
actually a doctor?

I was seeing some odd visuals.

Bodies and him being, like,
around these bodies.

So, I was kind of thinking
there's something

with that maybe going on here.

Do you have any idea what
he wants with the living?

When he was alive,
he had a lot of things

that he had to hide.

He wasn't in a particularly
powerful position.

He was always in a very
submissive kind of way

and I think now he feels
like he has a lot of power.

And he can get away with
doing what he wants to do.

So, I think he's enjoying this.

Okay, so now, Miller loses
my client's property.

What happens next?

His daughter Louisa was very
attached to the property.

She spent about six
years scraping together

enough money to buy
the property back.

So in , she did so.

Does she move the old man
back on the property?

Yes, she does.

Okay, so did things get
better for them then?

Not particularly.

The same year she moved
back to the property,

she lost her -year-old
daughter, Kelly,

to mysterious
circumstances.

Now what?

In , she lost her
father as well at age .

Okay, so then he dies.

Now, does he die
on the property?

Yes.

I mean, this family's
been through a lot.

Does it ever get
better for them?

Not really.

In , Louisa loses
the property again

and has
to move next door.

Whatever happened to her?

Louisa actually lived
to be years old

and she d*ed on the property
next to your clients

in
of cerebral hemorrhage.


You know, Mary, it says
here she's a widow.

Do we know anything
about the husband?

All we really know about
him is that he d*ed

a couple years before her
father lost the property.

Well, it's a sad story
to say the least.

I mean, this family
couldn't catch a break.

I'm seeing an old lady,
she's about .

She's upset because
her land is gone,

she wants her land back.

And she's just mad at me.

I'm getting that she's a widow

and her husband d*ed
when she was young.

Do you have any
idea when this was?

She would have been born

probably like, in the ... 's.

She's tough, she went
through a lot of **** man.

So, she thinks like,
that she's cursed

or this place is cursed.

I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,

but one thing stood out.

The guy who seemed
like a doctor,

attacking a living woman,
has me really worried.

He had on, like, round glasses.

Deep-set eyes.

He had a long, thin nose.

Maybe it's a little bit shorter.

Amy, is this
who you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I

have completed our
investigations,

we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

So, Amy, this is
a pretty unusual case

because no one lives in this
beautiful house right now.

Things got so bad here

that these guys grabbed
their two kids and left.

Now, this is Erin
and her husband,

who's also named Aaron.

I have a photo of their
two beautiful kids --

their -year-old daughter,
Reina,

and this is their
- year-old, Titus.

Now, these guys are stuck.

Can't afford to let
this place sit empty,

but they don't think it's safe
for anybody else to live here.

So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,

she'll describe her walk for us.

When I got here, it was
just layers and layers

and layers of
residual information.

I saw a lot of
different time periods.

I was hearing a lot of
screaming and yelling.

Seemed like a lot
of these people

didn't really belong here.

I saw fighting.

I just felt an extreme
amount of hate.

I felt like this type
of residual energy

would create feelings of
despair or depression.

Either one of you guys
ever feel that way

while you were living here?

I did.
I would stay in bed for days.

She was going to bed : ,
: in the afternoon.

It was crazy, I had
never seen anything

with her
especially like it.

Now, she mentioned v*olence

and people who didn't seem
like they belonged here.

I thought of the jail
right away, the prison.

Matter of fact, when
you stand in front

of one of your porches, you
could actually see it from here.

So the Missouri
State Penitentiary,

I'm sure you guys
are aware of it,

opened up in ,
closed in .

So I actually have
a picture of the prison

at the turn of the century.

I spoke to the prison's
last deputy warden

and he says the place
was trouble from day one.

There were four major riots
that happened at this prison.

The worst one was in .

Left four inmates dead and
millions of dollars worth

of damage to the prison itself.

They b*rned it.
Yeah.

That's -- Okay, got it.

Now, in the time that
the prison was operating,

over , prisoners
passed away there.

Wow.

So the first individual
that I came across

is a deceased teenager
about years of age

and I am concerned about him
for many different reasons,

but one is that he
is brain damaged.

He is here with his
father, who I believe

was some kind of caretaker
for the house, the property.

Looking at them, I'm thinking
maybe back to the s.

The man and his son
currently spend

most of their time in the attic.

When he feels like he's
not being paid attention to

or recognized,
he tends to slip out.

Like he'll stomp around,
yelling, throwing things.

Well, I didn't come across
any brain-damaged kids

in research, but you said
he has fits up in the attic,

throwing things.

Every night, I'd hear
what I would describe,

somebody dropping a box

and then getting angry and
kicking it across the room.

It would be over my bed
where the attic is.

Interesting, interesting.

He can become physical
with living people.

I saw him punching a living
person in the stomach

to get their attention.

Now, Aaron, I want you
to talk to Amy about

the kid jumping on your --

what you described as
a kid jumping on your back.

In the basement,
I'd feel heavy

almost as though someone's
jumping on my back.

Once I leave that room,

it was like a weight
lifted off my shoulders.

The next deceased
person I encountered

was an older lady,
who was probably in her s.

I think she lived and d*ed here.

I think she d*ed
around the ' s, s.

She experienced and went through
a lot of **** in her life.

Kept referring to her as
the widow, so I'm like, "Okay,

so she probably lost a loved
one, probably her husband."

The thing she was
really worked up about

was the property, the land.

She told me she lost it and
she wants it back really bad.

There was also an indication
of nightmare activity

with her specifically.

Yeah, I had nightmares
all the time.

I had a nightmare
about an old woman

who, on a set of stairs
that were curved,

she was in a nightgown

and she k*lled a baby
on the stairs.

Now, you told me your daughter
has nightmares, right?

Yes.

Can you tell Amy?

My daughter was
sleepwalking a lot.

I guess I would call
like a possession.

Head tilted,
wide-eyed,

and she would walk
and she would talk

and do creepy smiles
and creepy laughs.

This is what kind
of brought them

to moving the hell out of here.

Erin, tell Amy what
the final straw was.

Reina was sitting
in the bathtub

and she literally looked
over at me and said,

"Mommy,
what would happen

if I threw my baby
brother out the window?"

And I said, "We don't
joke about that

and we don't talk
about that,"

and then she started crying
a couple minutes later

and she said, "Mommy,
I did not say that.

I would never say that.
My brain told me to say that."

Wow.

I got a pretty good idea
of who you might've seen.

Now, there was a woman
named Louisa Miller.

She was born on the property
next door to here in

and moved on to this
property in .

Now, in , her husband d*ed
suddenly of unknown causes.

So when you mentioned the
widow thing, it made sense.

Two years later, her father
got himself buried in debt

and the family had to sell the
property to cover the bills.

So the genealogist I spoke to

said that Louisa
was really broken up

about losing this property and
she spent the next six years

scraping together
money and in ,

she managed to buy it back.

But the good times didn't last.

She got back into debt
and lost the property

a second time in .

She ended up having
to buy a cabin

on the property next door.

She wound up dying of a
cerebral hemorrhage in .

And she was years old.

Now, I was actually able
to get a photo of her.

And this is her when
she was younger.

Could this be the person
influencing Reina?

Yeah, I think so.

And Reina's open
to being influenced

because she's a medium.

I mean, you know,
this makes me sad.

I just feel
for my daughter.

I mean, she said, I don't
want that to happen with her

for the rest of her life.

I mean, as a father,
I can't --

what do I do with that?

You know, it just
drives me crazy.

I'm reaching anxiety,
and my anxiety is like a .

So far, you've seen
a lot in this place.

Anything else?

The other deceased person
that I encountered

is a male,
who I really don't like.

I mean, I don't like this guy.

Did not want me here.

****

That was weird.

Like I got a physical push
back on, like, my shoulder.

He was showing me
himself initially

like in his s or s.

Maybe this is
the widow's husband.

I couldn't be sure.

He's extremely stressed out,
very worried about money

and freaking out about the banks

and the thing that really
stood out to me about him

was that he kept
showing me himself

as, like, some kind of doctor.

Was kind of confused by that

because I kind of saw him
with a lot of dead bodies.

You know, a few things you're
saying are reminding me

not of Louisa Miller's
husband, but of her father.

Now, his name was
Philip Thomas Miller.

So he bought this
property in .

He was at the time
he bought it.

The thing that
caught my attention

was the bodies you mentioned

because Miller was
the warden at the prison

down the street
back in the s.

****

So talking about all the dead
bodies that happened there.

Now, we don't know how
many d*ed under his watch,

but he got into
financial trouble in

and the bank took the
property away from him.

I got a photo of Miller,
but it was later on in life.

Interesting.

So do you think that's who
you saw or you're not sure?

I think so, yeah.

The thing with him is
that he doesn't want

anybody here at all.

He wants living people to
be intimidated and scared.

He's very physical,

so I think you would be
able to see him at times.

So I was thinking like
dark clothes, dark suits.

I was standing in my
daughter's bedroom

and I saw an apparition
of a man with a top hat on

and he had an
old-fashioned black jacket.

That looks a lot
like the guy.

I saw him touching men in
unusual ways with women.

What I saw him doing was
attempting to smother them,

getting up in their faces.

What I did see him
doing as well was...

I'm being charged by this thing.

I don't know what
the **** it is.

What are they seeing?

More of like a black ball thing,
but, like, fast.

They're
and it's in their face,

you know, like
freaking them out.

And I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.

My God.
That makes me want to puke.

****

This happened
to me twice.

And this big black ball

or black thing
hovered on top of me

and it was
smothering me.

Like I couldn't move,
I couldn't breathe,

I couldn't scream,
I couldn't cry out.

This sketch
blows my mind.

She painted this picture,
almost like I was there

and then
you had this drawn.

It's just,
it's incredible.

I don't know what to think,
I really don't.

Alright,
so what's the thr*at?

What if they didn't
call us, what happens?

Honestly, he could more
than likely k*ll you.

Probably a good thing you
guys left when you did.

It's a lot to take in.
I mean, it really is.

I was nervous that

it was going to be worse
than what we thought

and it is.

Alright, guys, so now we
know what's in this house.

What was attacking you in bed,
what was jumping on you,

and most of all, what
was influencing Reina.

But we still haven't
answered the big question.

Can you make this
house safe enough

for you to sell
to another family?

For that question, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.

The first person that
needs to be dealt with

is the "doctor."

The people that need to do this

is a male and a female medium.

They need to be in the age range

of to years of age
in good physical health.

They need to come together as
a team and at the same time,

they need to engage this
deceased male and move him on.

Why so specific about
age and condition?

If we're leaning
towards younger,

he sees that as weakness.

And if we're going older,

he also perceives
that as a weakness.

The second person that needs
to be dealt with is the widow.

The male medium, he
needs to engage with her

and move her on.

I feel like she will
bow down to a male

giving her this directive.

The third is the father
and son in the attic.

This medium needs to be
more of a grandmother,

nurturing type of
personality, in her s.

Why a motherly type?

Because of the situation
with the kid?

Yes, yes, and he'll be calm
with this kind of personality.

Okay, so what can they do
as far as Reina's abilities?

You need to set up barriers
to keep the random dead away.

She's gonna need
a lot of learning.

When is it okay to
talk to the dead?

So it's a process, really.

Right.

This is a doable fix.

Would you consider
moving back in?

I- I can't do it.

That's understandable,
you know,

why go back into a combat zone
if you don't have to, right?

Yes.
I just can't.

My family's more
important to me.

Right, so are you guys
gonna follow Amy's advice

and do what she says so you
can safely sell this house

to someone else?
Yeah.

%.
I love having a plan.

I'm just really happy
that we have solutions.

I mean, the questions
I had were answered.

It's going to take
a lot of work,

but if these guys
follow my advice,

they can move on the dead,

making it safe to
sell to someone new.

We have been in
contact with a medium

that actually has
been in the house.

And he is in the process
of clearing the home.

Reina and I, we've had a
really good couple of months.

We haven't had anything
in our new house.

In fact, the other day,
she said she's grateful

that she doesn't have anything
scary in her closet anymore.

So anyways, we're really
appreciative of you guys.

Thank you, guys.
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