Previously on All Rise.
You were working for my campaign.
It looked like
you were trying to buy votes.
Oh!
"Oh" is right.
Is Lopez working for the biggest
pro bono law firm in the world?
No pressure, none.
The southland women's re-entry center,
many women live there
with their children.
- Louise and Harry Collins.
- What's happening?
- You must be Charlotte Collins.
- No, no.
- Mommy.
- Excuse me. You can't just take them.
Please, you gotta help me fix this.
I will, I will, I will, I will.
Peek-a-boo.
Peek-a-boo.
Oh, where did you get that?
Where did you get these little?
Oh, where is your daddy?
Okay.
Okay.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
You do know that babies
tend to stop wearing diapers
before the age of four, right?
You got enough pampers in there
to last baby until her senior prom.
Very funny.
Robin Taylor, you have got our home
lookin' like a wholesale warehouse
with all these coupons.
So would you prefer I'd not
pay lower than low, low prices?
All right. Start talking.
Who's your supplier?
I get my coupons from Nancy.
Nancy Adler, from your
little mommy social club?
Nancy's got you all hopped up.
On deals and discounts, yes.
You're welcome.
Wait a minute.
Umm-hmm.
I think I know what's going on here.
You think I'm jealous?
Oh, no. No.
I got to get to work.
Anything new
on the Sherry assistant drama?
Ooh!
Sherry kept her word.
She transferred to Delgado's courtroom.
But I have already decided
that she ain't going to like them.
Right. Handle your business.
Good day, sir.
Bye, Bailey.
Oh, wait, wait.
I got you a value sausage biscuit
for your car ride.
I don't want
your little discount biscuit.
Thank you.
Okay. I'll eat it.
Bye.
Damn! Did that just happen? Did
Mark Callan just outrun Luke Watkins?
Dude, did Mark Callan just
refer to us in third person?
Because Watkins really hates that.
So, what's your excuse? What,
you got a pebble in your shoe?
Didn't get enough sleep
last night? What's up?
None of that. I just
haven't worked out in a while.
How about you?
Yeah, I've had my share
of sleepless nights.
It's not every day you go up
against your buddy in a m*rder trial.
Let's make a pact.
We keep up our weekly jogs as usual.
No matter who wins?
No matter who loses.
Deal.
Like the saying goes, bros before
Litigation.
Bros before litigation.
Hey, not fair, man.
You're getting a head start.
I've got a new trick, guaranteed
to knock your bobby socks off.
Zachary, I am not in the mood.
You know, I'm good with the 101 tricks
you showed me over the weekend.
Hey, girl, real quick.
Now, do you have a quarter?
No. Okay, look. I have one right here.
Okay. So what I'm going to do,
I'm gonna take this quarter
and magically put it inside
of this balloon.
When it happens, it's going to
instantaneously turn into a bunch of dollars.
Yeah. So you're going to be
my assistant.
You hold this.
There you go.
Oh, my god.
Zachary, what the hell!
So sorry.
You know, it appears that I purchased
the confetti b*mb version by mistake.
Okay, we've got one of Cute little
vacuum things, so we can just clean.
You get away.
All right Fine, fine.
Where'd the quarter go?
- Hey, Mosey.
- Good morning, your Honor.
All right, Kansky.
This is how it's going down.
You're coming back to my
court, at least for the weekend.
If you want to leave
after that, then fine.
But for right now, it's you and me.
So snatch up your hot tea,
gather your little meditation crystals,
and be in my courtroom before
they start calling the morning calendar.
Got it?
Good.
Fine.
But I'm bringing this chair with me.
What's happening today
is the evidentiary hearing.
The judge is going to rule
on the motion that I filed
to throw out the statements
you gave to police.
Look, I know the strongest
evidence the D.A. Got against me
is about DNA, so I've been reading up.
They say one to four percent
of all DNA matches are false.
- Carl, listen to me.
- You need to tell the jury about all that.
There is this legal thing called
the presumption of innocence.
I know, innocent till proven guilty.
Right. It exists in theory.
But I promise you, from
the moment that you step
in front of those jurors, they're already
pegging you as a cold-blooded m*rder*r
who sh*t a woman in the head
and dumped her body in a trash bin.
But I can persuade them that their
preconceived notions are wrong.
But I need you to stop fighting me.
Do you believe I'm innocent,
Mr. Watkins?
It doesn't matter what I think.
No, no, no.
I need you to answer my question.
My job is to show how weak the
prosecution's case is against you.
That's the only thing that matters.
Man, I was going to represent myself.
My sister said no.
She told me it would be stupid
not to ask for a public defender.
Please.
I don't want to be one of those
guys that gets old in prison
before someone finally proves
they're innocent.
Please, please,
Mr. Watkins, I'm putting
my life in your hands.
Today's calendar, your Honor.
Thank you, Sherry.
This case is already working
my last nerve.
It feels like it's been 100 years,
and we haven't even
started the trial yet.
I just hate the thought
of seeing Mark and Luke
go at each other's throats in court.
I would posit that if the trial
had gone to someone like laski,
that punisher would be eating
Luke Watkins alive right now.
Laski does have an appetite for
new public defenders, that's for sure.
I see your point.
See, that's why we work well together.
You're the yin to my yang.
Ping to my pong.
If you say so, your Honor.
Oh!
Pretty sneaky husband of mine.
Snuck my favorite shea butter
into my briefcase.
It's the little things.
Give me a minute.
Looks like the only reason he got me
this hand cream is 'cause he had a coupon.
Does this man not think
I'm worth full price?
Emily?
Amy. Hey.
Hi.
Uh, what are you doing here?
I mean, not that I mind
the surprise visit.
Oh, wow. That's okay.
Okay. So I ran into ness in
court, and I mentioned that
there's still no desk available
for me at free counsel initiative.
And ness offered you rachel's
office until she gets back.
Obviously, without your knowledge.
I am so sorry.
I can I can find
someplace else, honestly.
No, absolutely not.
Her instincts are spot on.
I would have invited you myself.
I really, really appreciate it.
So, what case are you working on?
Charlotte Collins.
Single mom in the country
on a green card.
She caught a mayhem case, and I got
it reduced to felony false imprisonment.
So she is set up at the
re-entry center on probation,
but dcfs still took her two kids.
Oh! When's the hearing?
A couple of days.
I dropped the ball.
I think I should have been
in front of this.
You were focused on
keeping Charlotte out of custody
and in the country,
and you did exactly that.
And you will get her kids back, too.
In the meantime, make yourself at home.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
All right.
Oh, Lonnie Broadnax, am I
pronouncing that correctly?
Yes.
You were a stenographer
at Elite Deposition Solutions,
Riverside County Superior Court.
Oh, goodness.
- Excuse me.
- It's strong.
Very, very strong.
My boss gave.
It is a little strong, isn't it?
No, dear. Your energy is strong.
I feel it emanating from your aura.
You see, I'm a psychic.
I'm looking for this job as a court
reporter to supplement my income.
Oh.
I sense someone well above your
pay grade seeking your forgiveness.
Oh.
Someone very close to you.
You are not going to win me
over that easily.
What's that, dear?
Ms. Lonnie Broadnax,
welcome to courtroom 802.
Of course.
Did you know that was coming?
I saw that, too.
Hi. Darius.
Hi. I am Sara Castillo. I'm the
victim's advocate assigned to this case.
Oh, right, right. Hi. Hi, Miss Castillo.
Oh, no. Please call me Sara.
Sorry. I'm gilted. You'll have
to excuse my appearance.
Um, anyway, I'm here to offer
any support I can.
I also want to offer my condolences.
You know, I know it must be
tough sitting through this trial
and hearing all this
With all due respect,
uh, Miss Castillo, my mom
was the victim, not me.
So I'm I'm going
to head in there now.
Oh, yeah. Yes, please.
Did you pick up brenda
fletcher from the bar she worked at?
You know, maybe
Maybe I should get a lawyer.
I keep telling you,
I didn't k*ll nobody.
We found your
DNA on her dead body, Carl.
It's like your signature
is all over her corpse.
Thank you, judge.
Very well, Mr. Watkins.
I will hear you one last time
before I rule in the evidence.
Your Honor, detectives
relentlessly interrogated Carl Brewer
for 21 continuous hours.
He was not in his right state of mind.
Even more outrageous, his
statements were made involuntarily.
He continuously asked the
detectives for an attorney,
and they denied it.
Your Honor, the
techniques used by the detectives
during the interrogation
were not coercive.
And for Mr. Watkins
to suggest otherwise is, look,
I'll borrow one of his own
dramatic terms here, outrageous.
Mr. Brewer clearly stated that
he understood he had a right
to retain appointed counsel, and yet he
never definitively asked for an attorney.
He waived his miranda rights.
He absolutely did not.
Stop. I'm ready to rule.
Mr. Watkins, as to your motion to
suppress Mr. Brewer's statements,
I believe detectives had
an affirmative duty to confirm
whether Mr. Brewer was exercising
his right against self-incrimination.
With all due respect, your Honor,
the law says that officers
do not have to clarify
It's good police practice to do so.
I believe the detective should have
asked further questions to clarify.
I'm granting the defense's
motion to suppress.
Now, as for the people's
402 motion relevance
regarding the defendant's
medical condition,
Mr. Callan, it is your position that
the jury should not hear Mr. Brewer
suffers from acute
myeloid leukemia, correct?
Yes, your Honor.
It's clear that the defense
is only trying to gain
the jury's sympathy
Mr. Brewer has suffered from
leukemia his entire adult life.
He would not have the
physical ability nor the energy
to commit such a m*rder.
Well, it doesn't take much vim and
vigor to pull the trigger, your Honor.
The victim wasn't just sh*t.
Her hair was ripped out.
It's the people position
Her body dumped
like trash. That takes energy.
Energy that Mr. Brewer did not have.
Mr. Watkins, take a breath.
I find that the defense, as
a proponent of the evidence
regarding your client's current
medical condition has not met its burden.
Oh, your Honor, you cannot be serious.
The probative valuing
your client's medical condition
is outweighed by the risk
of undue prejudice.
I agree with the people that this
evidence would elicit more sympathy
than it would tend to disprove identity.
My client has an absolute
constitutional right to present a defense.
But not within admissible evidence.
I have excluded the evidence
on 352 grounds,
and do not interrupt me again.
I apologize, your Honor.
The trial will begin
in a couple of days.
Good morning, your Honor.
I'm hoping it will be.
Tea for you, two for me.
Oh, I might need
to triple up on the caffeine.
I did so much tossing
and turning last night.
Is it the trial?
If the evidentiary hearing
is any indication,
it's about to get brutal out there.
This must be an immense
amount of pressure for Luke.
I can't think of any new pd
who got a m*rder case so soon.
He's come a long way in a
short amount of time, your Honor.
Sherry, how are you and I doing?
Are we making any bit of progress here?
Your Honor, I will be returning
to judge delgado's court on Monday.
I want to see my kids, now!
Ma'am, calm down.
Don't tell me to calm down.
- Ma'am
- Charlotte? Hey.
I have been looking
all over town for you.
Louise is sick.
They say she's in the hospital,
but they won't tell me where.
Where is my daughter?
You need to get her out of here.
I got it. Thank you.
Charlotte, look at me.
Your daughter is fine. No.
I spoke to the doctor after
the re-entry center called me.
She is fine.
She had an ear infection.
She's okay.
She's okay.
- I need to see my children.
- I understand.
But right now, we need to get you back
to the center because you cannot afford
Oh, god.
Officers, hi.
We had a young lady who
was distraught, but it's fine.
- I'm her attorney.
- We need to talk to her.
Okay, look. She just found out her
kid was sick and she panicked. All right?
We are on our way out
right now, I promise.
The m*rder trial of 56-year-old,
Carl Brewer, begins in about an hour.
The forklift operator is accused
of sh**ting a woman to death.
This morning, the victim's
20-year-old son
I'll join you with
someone today who's concerned
about the dangerous effects of
under-policing in our communities.
So many women in the past three decades
have gone missing or been m*rder*d.
The case is unsolved.
So in the spirit, calling for justice
for my mom and other women,
I ask that you join me
in saying their names.
Sheila James.
Sheila James.
Harriet Boyd.
Harriet Boyd.
Martina sanchez.
Martina sanchez.
I'm not saying I disagree.
I just wonder if the push for
more policing doesn't get lost
behind the argument
for defending the police.
Police reform can walk the fine
line between maintaining public safety
and decreasing police brutality.
This m*rder trial I'm handling right now
has me thinking about all of it.
Clearly, black and brown
communities are suffering the worst of it.
The problem is either aggressive
policing or not enough policing.
Or both. You know, it's a complex
issue and one which probably
isn't going to be solved over
coffee and fruit in the judge's lounge.
Oh, here we go.
I'll say this.
Most police officers in this country
are selfless, patriotic citizens.
No one's disputing that.
Yes, we must curtail the
authority for police officers
to use deadly force, but not to the
extent that their actions are frozen
when confronting violent crime.
Since you chimed in
with the pitch of the problem,
why don't you hit us with a solution?
I'll hit you with several.
De-escalation training, tearing
down the blue wall of silence,
which protects abusive policing.
More effective training
for police officers
dealing with crisis intervention.
I'm gonna bring this back around
to the dangers of under-policing,
grassroots organizations have long
offered up solutions to these issues.
Real progress would be city and
police leaders sitting down with them.
Not just every other quarter.
And that's something
on which we all agree.
I'm not bad.
We should have this chat every week.
We'll be here.
- Jimmy slimms.
- That's me.
Luke Watkins.
We consulted on the
Brewer case over the phone.
- I was supposed to meet you here.
- Oh, yes. Forgive me.
Most days I don't know if I'm coming
or going, but right now I am going.
I'm sorry. I've got to get to trial.
I just need two seconds.
Have you found any discrepancies
in how the police collected
the evidence?
Compromised DNA,
contamination, testing issues?
I haven't spotted any inconsistencies
and we may not find any, Mr. Watkins.
That's just the reality.
Trust me, I've seen
DNA specimen techniques
as messed up as a hogan's goat.
But not here.
If you could just take another
look at the case file I sent you.
I'll try and grab some time
over the next couple of days.
Great.
I will call you.
I will call you.
There were rope burns
on the victim's wrists
and we could see that a lock of her hair
had been ripped from the scalp.
And where did you apprehend the suspect?
In the backyard of his home.
He never asked why he was
being arrested, which I found odd.
Yo, did he even say that?
You should object.
a few more follow-up
questions about the b*llet casing
you found in the alley.
What kind of b*llet was it?
The casing we found was from a
silver-colored nine millimeter b*llet.
It's a very particular piece of a*mo.
And what more did you find?
Using the automated firearm system,
we were able to find out that
Mr. Brewer owns a nine millimeter.
- He's lying.
- Based on the
I'm telling you to object.
And I'm telling you to be cool.
And of course, from the
shell casing found at the scene,
we determined that Mr. Brewer
owns the same type of g*n
used to m*rder the victim.
Thank you, detective Blair.
Mr. Watkins.
- You led a search of Mr. Brewer's home, correct?
- Correct.
But you didn't find any
firearms in the house, correct?
As I already stated, we knew
Mr. Brewer had the same type of g*n.
Is that yes or no?
No, we didn't find a g*n.
In fact, Mr. Brewer filed a report
years ago that a nine millimeter g*n
that he owned was stolen.
- Isn't that right?
- Correct.
It's funny. I didn't hear you
tell the prosecution that.
- Objection.
- Withdrawn.
Did you find any of
Mr. Brewer's DNA in the alley
where you believe Mrs. Fletcher
was sh*t to death?
Just Mr. Brewer's DNA on her body.
And you testified
earlier that you didn't find
any scratches, bruises or
cuts on Mr. Brewer, correct?
- Correct.
- Yet you found or you say you found,
his DNA under the victim's fingernails?
Right.
Again, I stated that I personally didn't
observe any injuries on your client.
That doesn't mean he didn't have any.
That's all, your Honor.
Redirects, Mr. Callan?
No, your Honor.
- Your Honor
- Carl.
I'd like to address the court,
I'd like to fire my lawyer.
- Carl
- Excuse me.
Bailiff, remove this man
from my courtroom.
Mr. Watkins is not following
any of my directions.
I demand new counsel.
Members of the jury,
we will take a break.
Disregard Mr. Brewer's statement
I demand new counsel.
Mr. Watkins, you need
to control your client.
Mr. Watkins is not
adequate for my defense.
My fifth amendment right
to effective counsel is being violated.
You showed a lack of
respect for this court, for counsel
and most significantly, for the jury.
Any more outbursts like that and I will
have you removed for the rest of trial.
Am I clear?
Yes, your Honor.
I will say I considered
your request for new counsel.
And since you did not make
this request before trial began
and we are already deep into testimony,
I am denying your request
for a Marsden hearing.
I know Mr. Watkins well,
and he is an excellent attorney.
It would behoove you to
trust him in representing you.
We will pick up again tomorrow morning.
Bailiff.
Thank you, your Honor.
I miss my kids.
I know you do.
But you could just see
the judge tomorrow.
I'll be right there with you.
I'm a screw-up.
Judge is going to know that.
Well, then you must be screw-up
number two, because I hold the title.
Oh, no.
You should have seen me
when I was a teenager.
You could not tell me anything.
I had all the answers.
I knew it all.
If there was a rule,
I just broke it, you know.
I spent time in juvie.
- You were in juvie?
- Mm-hmm.
Then I just I turned things
around for myself.
Look at you now, a lawyer.
And look at you.
A fearless mom who has raised two
beautiful, amazing kids on her own.
That doesn't look like a screw-up to me.
Can I tell you something?
Yeah.
They tried to take away my
kids before I came to the states.
Sherry?
Oh. What are you smiling at?
It looks like our new
stenographer/sidekick has earned her keep.
She predicted that an admirer
would give me a gift and here it is.
A gift card to cycle city.
Someone just left it on my desk.
Sherry, Robin actually got me
that gift card.
It must have fallen out of my bag
and someone accidentally
placed it on your desk.
But no, no, no, no.
Sherry, you You keep it.
No, thank you. It's yours.
Come on, Sherry.
When would I even have the time?
I suggest you make the time, your Honor.
Mr. Watkins.
I'm sorry to disturb you.
I'm Carl's sister, Mildred.
I met you when you first
took on his case.
Yes, I I remember.
I'm so sorry about my
brother's outburst today in court.
That should not have happened.
Please have a seat.
He has had challenges his whole life.
When we were kids, Carl
got into a lot of trouble.
I've been trying my whole life
to restore him to christ.
It may be true he's trapped in sin.
But my brother is not a m*rder*r.
You said that your
grandparents raised you two.
What happened to your parents?
Mamma, well, she had a hard time.
I mean, I didn't mean to
No.
No, it's fine.
I think about how sick my brother
was with leukemia and everything.
I was his only caretaker
after our grandparents passed.
I've seen that cancer come
and go and come back again.
But because of God's grace
and mercy, my brother is still here.
I go to Howard University.
Mom helped me enroll using
some of her late shift money.
She sounds like a wonderful lady.
When I was a kid,
my mom, she got this tattoo on
her arm of her favorite bible verse.
And I'm not much of
a religious guy myself,
but I want to do something
special to remember her by.
So I actually ended up getting
the same tattoo.
"Love does not delight in
evil, but rejoices with the truth."
That's a beautiful verse and
a great tribute to your mom.
Thank you.
Come on. Believe in yourself.
You can do anything
you put your mind to.
If you see it, you can achieve it.
- Let's go.
- Excuse me.
- Lola Carmichael.
- Yeah.
I'm Officer Bernard.
My partner, Officer Cohen.
I'd like to talk about the gift
card you used for this class.
Would you come with us, please?
Yeah.
Okay, people, focus up, big hill.
Three, two, one. Push.
Tomorrow, the prosecution
will call more witnesses,
including the criminalists that
work with investigators on it.
Let me guess. You grew up in
an upper middle class home,
went to one of highfalutin
private schools, hmm?
Probably only dated
rich white women, huh?
Your mommy and daddy
spoiled you rotten, I could tell.
Look.
Carl, I get it.
I get that you had it rough growing up.
Your sister, she told me about
your the troubles you faced.
It's a lot.
Your father's untimely death.
Your mom leaving you
with your grandparents.
Don't talk about my mother,
do you understand?
Don't ever talk about her.
It's okay, Deputy.
Just give us a minute, please.
I don't know if my sister told
you, but after our mother left,
she came back years later when
she found out about my cancer.
She was a match and she
wanted to donate her bone marrow.
Yeah.
Man, I was so happy.
My mama came back to save me.
Then she took off again,
right before my surgery.
I never knew why.
All I knew was my mama
had left me a second time.
She left me.
That bitch left me to die.
- Thanks.
- Hmm.
Thanks for showing up.
Did you think I wouldn't?
I wasn't I'm not.
Can I ask you a question?
Did you ever worry about
charging the wrong guy with m*rder?
Just curious.
I tend to worry about the
guilty guy getting away with it.
Hmm.
Look, I've been doing this long
enough to know that restorative justice
doesn't work for everybody.
What the hell's that supposed to mean?
I can't tell you everything, but
we are learning new information.
- New information like?
- I can't tell you.
Are you planning to drop
a bombshell in trial?
This has nothing to do with trial, Luke.
And maybe I shouldn't
have said anything, but I am
But you sure as hell did?
I'm giving you a heads up that there
is something coming down the pike.
Okay?
And there might be more
to Carl Brewer than you think.
You know what I think, Callan?
I think this is you trying to get into
my head, knock me off my game,
- because your case
- All right.
is getting weaker by the minute
and you cannot handle the
thought of losing to a public defender
in his first m*rder trial.
- Are you serious right now?
- Your ass can't handle, Callan.
Wow, man. Okay.
I'll see you in court.
Bailey's down.
Mm-hmm.
Thank you, husband.
You're welcome, wife.
Rough day, huh, babe?
Well, at least they didn't
throw you in the clink.
You should have let me
come down and help you.
No. It was fine once I explained
everything to the officers.
The point is I got embarrassed
in front of my entire spin class
because of your
little girl friend, Nancy.
Can't believe that gift card
she gave me was counterfeit.
Oh, Nancy.
A wanted scammer.
I didn't see that one coming.
Yeah, I'm as surprised
as you are, Mr. FBI agent.
I guess this puts a huge dent
in me and Nancy's relationship.
It's too soon, Robin.
I'm sorry, baby.
I guess I've got some making up to do.
Mm-hmm.
But this prime rib feast
is a good start.
It looks delicious.
Wait.
Did you buy this dinner
with one of Nancy's coupons?
I plead the fifth, your Honor.
- Appreciate you coming.
- Are you kidding?
I live with my brother
in his very crowded home.
Of course, I was coming.
Congrats on the new place, Sam.
- I'm happy for you.
- Thank you.
I mean, I move in a week or
so, and I just, I cannot wait.
Well, I look forward to my
invitation to the house-warming.
Oh, I look forward to having you.
So what's up with this
new adventure of yours
they call holistic law?
Hm. I I told you about
the case I'm working.
Single mom trying to get her kids back.
She's young, you know, and
she's had a really tough life.
She she shared some stuff with
me about something she experienced
that was extremely difficult.
Then you share that with the judge.
And if the judge is empathetic
It's Judge Taylor.
- Judge needum Taylor?
- Mm-hmm.
I appeared before him, before
he was transferred over to juvenile court,
- I'm not going to lie, he was tough.
- Great.
Maybe think about holding
your most compelling argument
to the very end right before
he rules, that worked for me.
Duly noted.
So, Luke Watkins, what's up
with this new adventure of yours
they call public defense?
I'm not going to lie.
It's been tough.
The trial, Callan,
my client.
He shared something very painful
with me today about his mother and
I could feel the misery
that he was living with.
How haunted he was
It was almost like
I can feel that misery too.
Yeah.
Mr. Slimms, thanks for getting back.
Did you have a chance to
look at the case file again?
Bottom line, the prosecution
saying Carl Brewer's DNA
and only his DNA was found
on this woman's body.
A lot of it, like, too much to ignore.
You're going to have
to argue something else.
The DNA is solid.
Hey, listen, I wanted to ask you again
about my client's transplant
from 35 years ago.
I thought you weren't allowed
to mention that in trial.
I'm not allowed to talk about my
client's current medical condition,
but no one said I can't refer
to his medical history.
You're the lawyer.
Wait a minute.
What kind of transplant
did you say your client had?
I've heard all of that,
I'm going to hear, Miss Lopez.
I would just like to say one more
thing on behalf of Miss Collins.
She recently shared with me something that
she experienced that was very tough for her
to handle back in British
Columbia, Canada, where she's from.
There was a certain practice
called a birth alert.
It allowed social workers to flag and
expecting parent without their consent
as being unfit to care for their child.
Tell me how this relates
to the case before me.
Yes, your Honor.
These birth alerts were
often issued without regulation,
disproportionately against
indigenous women,
but also low income women
like Charlotte.
In fact, she received them
during both of her pregnancies.
She spent years on the run
for fear that her children
were going to be taken from her.
Judge Taylor, please,
do not add to the trauma
that Charlotte has had to endure.
She is a loving, a loving mother.
And she deserves
to have her children back.
- Hi, Miss Kansky.
- Hi.
Okay.
Oh!
Sherry, you are a lifesaver.
Very welcome, your Honor.
It was a look, this
incredulous look you gave me
at the public integrity hearing the
same look you give to guilty defendants
before you sentence them.
And in that moment, oh, it hit me.
The woman that I have come to
respect, idolize even, and care for,
would think that I would
steal half a million dollars
from her campaign.
And though I did nothing wrong.
I carried tremendous guilt, as
though I had somehow betrayed you.
And for that, I am angry.
It really hurt.
Sherry.
The look I gave you,
wasn't a look of scorn,
it was one of concern.
For the first time, something
nefarious had happened in my backyard.
And while I never for one second
believed that you had stolen that money.
Someone in my camp did,
and I was worried sick about it.
So for what seemed like an
accusatory glance that I gave you,
I am truly sorry.
But this look,
that is right here,
and I'm giving you right now
is a look of admiration
and appreciation and of respect.
It is a look of love and of apology.
Thank you.
Miss Collins, you've missed
court-mandated therapy sessions.
You've missed AA meetings.
You're someone who does not obey rules.
That is a problem.
Having said all that, I strongly
believe in a concerted effort
to strengthen the relationship
between parents involved in the system
and their children.
Miss Lopez is right,
you've been through a lot,
and I'm convinced you never
put your children in harm's way.
I'm ruling that your children
be returned to you
while you serve out the
terms of your plea agreement.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
We sent the blood for processing
and we found that the genetic
profile generated from the blood
found on the victim's body was
consistent with Carl Brewer's DNA profile.
Thank you.
Mr. Watkins.
Ms. Reed.
Just to be clear, you told this
jury that the DNA from the victim
and the DNA from my client
matched to a certainty of, what was it,
one in 19 billion?
Correct. Right.
Nineteen billion. That's a big number.
Three times the total population
of humans on the planet.
Even with that certainty, wouldn't
you say that there are circumstances
in which DNA can change?
Change? Possible,
but extraordinarily rare.
I want to show you something.
Doounow what this is, Ms. Reed?
It's a chimera.
A chimera, comes
from greek mythology, right?
Yes.
Fire-breathing monster,
a hybrid creature,
made up of three different animal parts.
A lion, the body of a goat
and a snake's head for a tail.
Beautiful actually.
Your Honor, relevance.
Overruled.
I want to see where this is going.
But we're not talking about greek
mythology, are we, Mrs. Reed?
Tell us how this beautiful creature
connects to the medical definition.
In medicine, chimera refers
to a hybrid human,
someone who could be carrying two totally
different sets of DNA inside their body.
So let's say if someone
received a procedure like, say,
a bone marrow transplant, that
person could be a chimera, yes?
They could be carrying
two distinct sets of DNA.
One, of the recipients
and one of the donor, right?
Sorry, I didn't hear you, Ms. Reed.
Human chimerism is rare.
Rare? Yes, but it is possible
under these circumstances.
Objection. Relevance, 352 in foundation.
Overruled. Continue, Mr. Watkins.
Ms. Reed, if you learned that
Mr. Brewer had a bone marrow transplant,
would that change your
opinion regarding the probability
of the DNA evidence?
Your Honor, Marking defense exhibit w,
Carl Brewer's medical records from 1987
showing he received
a bone marrow transplant
from the california cancer organization.
Your Honor, objection on prior grounds.
The defense just violated
the court's rulings to prohibit
the mention of the
defendant's medical record.
The court didn't tell me
not to present evidence
from a medical procedure that
my client received 35 years ago.
Bailiff, remove the jury.
I ask that the evidence be excluded
- No records include
- And let the jurors be instructed to disregard it.
The current medical
records, as well as the fact that
Mr. Brewer received
the bone marrow transplant.
Watkins, are you serious right now?
I comply with
the court's discovery rules,
as well as the court's 402 ruling.
Counsel, you are both out of order.
I want to see you in my chambers now.