02x03 - Danielle

[bunniefuu]

[WOMAN] This is a nice
set-up you've got here.

[ELECTRONIC CRACKLE]

[OVER SPEAKER] There was a time I
thought about joining the police force.

Can you imagine? [CHUCKLES]

Not like, uniform or...
you know, on the b*at,

whatever you call it,
but... a detective.

Like on TV. Like Columbo!

[HOBBS] So what happened?

- "Just one more thing!"
- [HOBBS] Danielle?

- [DANIELLE] What?
- [HOBBS] Why didn't you?

Oh, God.

Why does anyone do anything?

And this was years ago.

This is like, when I was in school.

Then boys happened, kids came along...

My crime fighting days were over
before they'd even begun.

You'll be relieved to hear. I
won't be taking your job just yet.

Well, that's not quite true, is it?

How do you mean?

You seem to have been doing
some detective work of your own.

Oh, you're talking about the website?

Pesticide, it's called.

- Yeah.
- Yeah. Pesticide.

The only time we ever got any credit

was for the business with, um...

You know, what's his name?
Lewis. The first one.

The teacher.

Yeah, yeah. Teacher. Do
you know about that one?

Why don't you tell us? For the tape.

[DANIELLE] Okay.

Uh, Lewis. Uh, Crispin Lewis.

He was a teacher at my
daughter Fiona's school.

P.E. teacher, I think he was.

And then, completely out of the blue

we get a letter saying he'd been fired.

Turns out it was for having
kiddie p*rn on his work computer.

Not that he ever touched Fiona,
you know, ever, but you know...

He could have.

So look, the point is,

a couple of months later I saw him.

In the menswear
department in John Lewis.

The first thing that comes into
my head is nothing to do with...

the abuse, or anything like that.
It was just, "Oh, that's funny.

Crispin Lewis, in John Lewis!"

[CHUCKLES] Stupid, really.

But then I think...

"He's landed on his feet".

You know, if he's shopping
in John Lewis.

To be fired as a teacher
for that kind of thing...

So, I go home.

I google him.

Turns out he's got another job

at another school, a private school.

Just a couple of miles away,
and I think to myself...

"That's not right".

So I get my old scrapbook.

It's got all the press clippings and

cuttings from the first time round.

I copy them. It's like, p a page
but it's worth every penny.

And I send them to the
headmaster of the new school.

With a covering letter that just
says "To whom it may concern...

and you should all be
concerned, frankly...

you may want to be
aware of the following.

Please see enclosed..." Etcetera.

A couple of days later I
get a call from the school,

thanking me for my letter.

And the head of Year Nine, Mrs. Bradley,

she tells me in confidence that

he's been fired for a second time.

And that it was all down to me.

And to think I nearly went
to House of Fraser! [CHUCKLES]

[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]

[CAMERA CLICKING]

- [ELEVATOR DINGS, DOOR OPENS]
- [CLICKING]

[BEEP]

[HOBBS] So that, in your
mind, was a positive start?

Yeah, I found myself
thinking afterwards,

"If that man can find
that job that easily,

then, you know, who else is out there?

What can I do to stop them?"

Well, the traditional way
is to go to the police.

No.

No, not with these sorts of people.

No, because you need evidence.

You know, you can't just go accusing
people of this kind of thing.

You need facts and you need evidence

and the only reason I
had facts and evidence

about Mr. Lewis in John Lewis

is because it had been in the papers.

But in answer to your question, yeah.

That is when it started.

Pesticide?

Pesticide. Yeah.

- Yeah.
- Which is a play on words.

"Pest" as in someone who pesters you,

and "cide" as in death,

as in, homicide.

Well, "cide" as in death,
but "pest" as in vermin.

- And you're the founder?
- Yeah. Well, yeah...

More like the lead singer of the band.

[PETIT] You accept that you're involved?

Yeah.

And you're of the opinion that
everything Pesticide does is legal?

Well, I'm more than
"of the opinion", Kyle.

I mean, I know. I check.

We check. We make sure.

That's why I'm happy to
have my name on the website.

Are you familiar with
the term "vigilante"?

[CHUCKLES] Mm-hmm.

Would it be fair to call it that?

Well, you, Kyle, must
call it what you want.

But if you do find
yourself calling it that,

maybe ask yourself why vigilantes
came to exist in the first place?

Because the people whose
job it is to protect them...

[MOUTHING]

... have let them down.

Do you ever ask yourselves that?

[HOBBS] Okay.

Just to be percent
clear on this, Danielle,

you do know why you've been arrested?

[DANIELLE] Yeah, you told me.

[HOBBS] For making an
improper communication online.

- Yeah, you said.
- You're not worried by that?

I would be worried if
I'd done anything wrong

but I haven't, so I'm not.

End of story.

[HOBBS] And you still
don't want a solicitor?

[DANIELLE] And they all
lived happily ever after.

- Danielle?
- No, thank you.

You are entitled to one.

Yeah, noted, but no.

Shall I get you one anyway,
in case you change your mind?

Have you done it already?

I might have done.

Well, then they will
be waiting some time.

Okay.

So let's get to the reason you're here.

Andrew Simmons.

Oh, Andrew.

That's good.

You're familiar with the name?

Yeah, very.

Although that is not what
he calls himself online.

No?

No. God, no. They all have pseudonyms.

So explain how you came
to meet Andrew Simmons.

I've never met him.

- Online?
- Online. Yeah.

Yeah, Just talk us through
how that worked.

Well, it's the same as
it is with all of them.

You know, I set up a fake profile,

fake name, fake pictures.

I do that in a forum or a chat room.

And you're posing as a -year-old?

Exactly.

Then I say that I'm looking
to make new friends,

looking for a bit of fun,
that kind of thing.

And I just wait.

Wait?

For... ?

For perverts.

Perverts like Andrew Simmons.

Because they have to be the ones
to make first contact, to initiate.

I mean, that's how we
get our legal protection.

They have to start it.

And when they do, in the
nicest possible way, Kyle,

God f*cking help them.

You'll have to bleep that out.

And so little by little,

when we start chatting, so they
begin to give themselves away.

God love them, they
can't help themselves.

When you say, "give themselves away..."

Did you not receive the Pest Pack?

The envelope I sent. If this is
about Andrew Simmons, then...

Right. Yeah, that's it.

Good.

Yeah, I do them like that so
they go to the top of the pile.

Actually, for future reference,

do them like that, they
go straight to Security.

This one took three days to be opened.

Putting "Pesticide" on
the back didn't help.

This is what you sent us on Simmons.

It's mainly a transcript
of an online conversation

that took place in the
second half of December.

That chat is between someone called

"Porsche", who you identify as
actually being Andrew Simmons,

a -year-old media
accountant from Putney.

And "Pixie Girl",

a pretty, blonde -year-old
girl from Belsize Park...

who is actually you.

- And it gets quite graphic.
- Only on his side.

Right, but it gets quite
sexually explicit quite quickly.

Yeah.

[SIGHS] Some of them take
a while to get going, you see?

"What would you like to do
when we first meet in the flesh?

How about we go to the cinema?"

"Maybe we could hold hands".

Like blood from a stone.

Not this guy.

This is from an office party.

No, is that him?

[CHUCKLES SOFTLY]

Looks so friendly, doesn't he?

Nice, smiley, beardy face...

[HOBBS] Okay, the pair of you
exchanged over messages.

We can't read them all,
but just to give us an idea,

on th December,

you say how flattered
you are by his messages,

but "I can't chat more tonight

because I need to do my homework".

Yeah, in reality I'm at a carol concert

with Peter, my seven-year-old.

Simmons replies undeterred,

asking more about your school,

about what goes on there.

- About my uniform.
- About your uniform.

At which point I'm
thinking, "Here we go".

The next morning you're on him again,

asking what he got up to last night.

He texts, "Not much.

After my wife goes
to sleep I'm all alone.

Crying face, crying face".

- He's a big fan of the emoji.
- As are you.

I do it to come across
like a -year-old.

He does it to come across like
someone a -year-old would like.

Well, therein lies the modern
mating ritual, Natalie,

but did you notice what he did there?

Spot it?

We now know he's married.

He's given that away.
That's our first clue.

And it might not seem like much,

but those clues soon begin to add up.

And you start to hone in on
who the pervert is for real.

Oh, it's very clever.

Now, there's no need for that.

And you don't think you're
leading him on at all?

- How can I be?
- Sorry?

I'm .

- Are you?
- Yeah.

As far as he's concerned, I am.

But not in reality.

In the same way that playing
Mario on my brother's Gameboy

never made me a plumber.

No, this is different.
Mario's a computer game.

- This is a game.
- No.

- Also played on a computer.
- No, this is real.

If Mario ends badly you
can go back to the start.

If this ends badly... well, kids
don't get to do that, do they?

That is why we do it.

Did he?

Did he what, babe?

Send you a picture?

Okay.

On the th, he asks

if you fancy any of your teachers.

Yes, you say, you fancy
one of them badly.

You remind him you're only .

Yeah, see, that's important.

"But boys my own age do nothing for me".

Come on, you're giving
him an open goal here.

Yeah, I'm trying to, but
he still has to be the one

to kick it in the back of the net.

"Ever thought about getting with
someone more experienced", he asks.

You ask what he means.

And then there are several pages of him

telling you exactly what he means,

and exactly how much he means it.

With more photos to help illustrate,

and with more encouragement from you.

And all this, while you're
getting things ready

for Christmas, presumably.

Sorry?

These are from Christmas Eve,

so you're fitting all this
entrapment in around, what?

Peeling Brussels sprouts?

You're clearly a very busy
-year-old woman.

Thirty messages between
: p.m. and midnight alone.

You ask him about the
other girls he's spoken to.

"If you're so experienced", you say...

You want him to tell you about them.

"... I need someone who
knows what they're doing".

And on this point he is
particularly communicative.

He gives you numbers,

lots,

gives their ages.

He offers up pictures.

You say seeing pictures
would turn you on.

This is how we do it. We build
the case. We build the clues.

You ask where he works.

The accountants, Paddington.

What music he likes.

Rock music.

And what he drives.

An old BMW convertible.

Although if you look on Google Earth

you'll see he actually
drives a Kia Sportage.

"Maybe you could pop round to see him".

This is one late night suggestion.

"You could be his special
Christmas present,

but only if he asks nicely

and tells you exactly
what number he lives at".

You look at me like that,
but this is how we do it.

This is how we find them,
we go after the clues.

- Like Cluedo.
- [HOBBS] But not like Cluedo, Danielle.

because that's a game and
this is real, remember?

But he doesn't give his
address over straight away.

Not that night.

It wasn't until sometime
after that he gave it up.

Yeah. Got it in the
end though, didn't I?

It's like I said, these men...

can't help themselves.

- Got that other photo lined up?
- [WARREN] Yeah, it's coming.

No, may as well do it now, though, yes?

[WARREN] Alright, Tone.

[MYERSCOUGH GROANS]

I didn't.

You were thinking it.

[HOBBS] Is there a small
part of you that enjoys this?

There's a small part of me
that's satisfied by it.

Yeah.

- By the process?
- No, by the outcome.

He's been arrested? There is an outcome.

We can't tell you that.

I'll take that as a yes.

Do you ever send pictures back?

What, do I look like a -year-old
blonde girl from Belsize Park?

No.

But you might have pictures that do.

Yeah, I might, but I don't,

and even if I did, I wouldn't send them.

Wouldn't cross that line.

So there's a line?

[HOBBS] So the two of you are
pen pals over the festive period.

Then just before midnight
on New Year's Eve,

while he's watching
fireworks with his family,

Andrew Simmons receives a
message from a different account,

this time openly
affiliated to Pesticide,

explaining this has all been a trap.

That Pixie Girl isn't real,

but the messages and pictures of himself

that you've been busily
sending definitely are.

You explain that packages containing
everything you've received

are to be sent out first
thing in the morning.

One to the police,

one to his work,

Blue State Finance, in
Paddington, as you say,

and one to his wife's parents,
wherever they are.

Newcastle-under-Lyme.

And that's what you did,
signing off with a final message:

"Here's a New Year's
resolution for you, Andy.

Why not spend the next months
being less of a twisted f*ck?"

[CHUCKLES] Sorry!

Sorry, I forgot I put that.

You've destroyed this man's life.

- No.
- Yeah.

- You do realize that?
- No.

No, credit where credit's due,
he did that all by himself.

[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]

[MYERSCOUGH] My old man's
at w*r with the council

over residents' parking.

This is up near Preston.

And... he's sent thousands of emails.

Right.

He's even found out where
the head councilor lives.

He's been round to
deliver letters personally

because he says he
never gets a response.

[BOTH CHUCKLE]

[SIGHS]

Whole thing's giving him heart
problems, according to my brother.

Are your parents still together?

Yep.

Right. So what does
your mum make of it all?

[CHUCKLES LIGHTLY]

Well, she says, "For a man
that went to the Falklands

and survived Goose Green,

your dad's sure picked an
odd bloody hill to die on".

[CHUCKLES]

- You're not comparing that with this?
- No.

I'm saying, people go on crusades.

All right. Well, I wouldn't
lump your dad in with her yet,

especially given what's to come.

Henry Regis. Solicitor. They
told me to come straight up.

- Natalie.
- Hi. Take a seat. Thanks.

[HOBBS CLEARS THROAT]

She's yours for an hour.

I'd...

Yeah, I'd keep it smiley,
at least to begin with.

Okay.

[MYERSCOUGH] Interview resumes at :.

New into the room in place of
DCI Hobbs, DI Tony Myerscough.

- [DANIELLE] What happened to Natalie?
- Oh, she's still here.

She asked me to come in for this bit.

I'm the member of the team

who's been looking
most closely at the fallout.

Ah.

Okey-cokey.

So, this group of yours, Pesticide.

How many of you are there, again?

What do you mean, "again"?

How many of you are there?

Well,

if you read the newspapers
every day, Tony, like I do,

you'll know the answer: not enough.

Excellent. [CHUCKLES]

But if you were to put
an actual figure on it?

[CHUCKLES SOFTLY]

Don't say I said anything, Kyle,

but this guy's hilarious.

That's the reason why you're
here, in case you hadn't realized.

We need the names and contact
details of all those involved.

Groups like yours do
a great deal of harm.

Well, at least they do something,

which is more than
can be said for you lot.

I'm just saying,

even though they mean well,

they can provoke v*olence
and retribution in others,

they can get in the way
of real police inquiries.

There are many effects
to their actions. Okay?

Okay.

So how many are we talking? Ten, ?

More?

It doesn't matter how many.

Well, then if it doesn't matter, say.

No problem.

We'll come back to that later.

After we've gone through the
consequences of these packages,

which means... I don't know if my
colleague Vanessa can hear me,

but we won't be needing the
photo of the girl just yet.

[DANIELLE] What photograph?

[MYERSCOUGH] I gave
her a bit of a hard time

about it not being ready before.

I feel bad now.

[DANIELLE] What photograph? I told
you I didn't send any photograph.

Must be like f*ring missiles, these.

You know they have the
potential to do untold damage

and you just hope they hit their target.

Well, good news, for your team, anyway.

They had the desired effect.

The package that you sent

to Blue State Finance
was opened by Samira.

That's the chairman's PA.

Simmons was called up
from a little office

he shares with a colleague.

Tried his best to deny it, of course.

Was fired on the spot.

Just like that. Twenty-one
years in the company,

and out that morning with
nothing but a cardboard box.

The second package arrived
at Scotland Yard, as we know,

and as we know, took over
three days to be opened.

The final package

arrived at Andrew Simmons's
mother-in-law's house

in Newcastle-under-Lyme,

while she was having her breakfast.

And?

Well, it was enough to put
her off her egg and soldiers.

- Put it that way.
- [SCOFFS]

That being said, what
she did manage to do

amidst a blizzard of indecency,

was to call Siobhan, her daughter,

Simmons's wife, to
tell her all about it,

and that in turn caused Siobhan

to drop to her knees
on the kitchen floor

and have what is known
as a cued panic att*ck.

Cued by you.

Cued by him.

Well, let's come back to that later.

But that was their -year
marriage as good as over.

[CHUCKLES]

I mean...

you say that like it's a bad thing.

Are you married, Tony?

Let's call that a no. Well, just
imagine you are for a second.

You'd want to know.

You'd want to know

if your partner was involved in
something like this, wouldn't ya?

And there is no easy way to find out.

You ask her.

Danielle,

at any point during your exchange
with Andrew Simmons,

did the name Chloe come up at all?

No.

- [PETIT] That name doesn't ring a bell?
- Mmm.

Chloe is someone Andrew Simmons
has been in contact with a lot.

She's . Goes to school a quarter
of a mile from where he lives.

She's quite an academic girl,
doing GCSEs a year early,

already thinking about universities,
what degree to do...

Something maths-related.

Bastard.

[PETIT] There are
other subjects in the mix

but maths is the clear favorite.

Complete and utter bastard.

This was taken in A&E, on sixth January,

- by Chloe's mum.
- What? Wait a second, what?

She's been back at home, weeks now.

Not back at school, though. Not yet.

What, sixth January?

That's three days after
I sent out the Pest Pack.

- The what pack?
- This!

This arrived on the third,
you told me that.

But it took you people
three days to open it.

That's three days between

being warned about this
pervert and this happening.

Don't even try to deny it.

Because it's on your cameras
and it's on these.

[MICROPHONE FEEDBACK]

And now, look.

How many people are there in Pesticide?

I mean, what more do you people need?

We need the names and
addresses of all those involved.

You get everything handed to you,

on a plate. And still
you let him do this.

Let who do this?

Simmons.

Danielle, Andrew Simmons didn't do this.

You did.

You remember the egg and soldiers.

The -year-old mother-in-law
who calls Siobhan.

Siobhan drops to her knees
and has her panic att*ck.

Well,

an ambulance had to be called.

And who does that, Danielle?

Who helps Siobhan to her feet

and calls for an ambulance?

Hmm?

Her -year-old daughter.

Chloe.

Chloe, who knows nothing about the fact

that her dad's been accused
of being a pedophile

until three days later,

when she's approached by
a g*ng of girls from school,

keen to have a chat.

Word's got out, you see.

Daddy's a twisted man.

And so this is what she gets.

Now, I say a g*ng of girls from school.

But what's the word
that I'm looking for?

Hmm?

Came up earlier.

Vigilantes.

[TENSE MUSIC PLAYING]

[CHUCKLES NERVOUSLY]

Natalie, can you hear me in there?

[TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES]

Client wants you in the interview.

We haven't even met.

[KEYPAD BEEPING]

[BUZZER]

[MYERSCOUGH CLEARS THROAT]

You've arrested her for making
an improper communication online.

Which I have not.

So, how do you know that, sorry?

Because... [SCOFFS]

... impersonating a juvenile
online isn't illegal.

I can impersonate anyone I want.

Mahatma Gandhi. f*ckin'
King of Norway... anyone.

But if some pervert approaches me,

if he initiates contact,

then I'm within my rights

to find out how much
of a menace he really is.

If anything I should
be applauded for it.

[HENRY] But, with respect...

that's not why you've been arrested.

Making an improper communication
online does not relate to you.

It relates to someone you
affect. It's like slander.

So if you say someone is a
pedophile and that is untrue,

then if they suffer as a result
of your false allegation...

that's a criminal offense.

Have you accused someone
of being a pedophile?

Yeah.

And are they?

Yes.

Well, then it falls to the detectives
here to prove otherwise.

And if they can't, then I'm
sure they'll soon let you go.

He knows, the solicitor.

He doesn't know what, but
he knows there's more coming.

[MYERSCOUGH CLEARS THROAT]

Do you remember, Danielle, when
Natalie was in here? DCI Hobbs.

She said it took Simmons some
time to give you his full address.

Seventy-four, East
River Walkway, Putney,

London, SW.

Why do you think that was?

Oh, I don't know, Kyle!

Maybe because online predators

don't like giving themselves away.

But if that was the case, he
never would have told you at all.

He'd already told you he was married,

and that he drove an
old BMW convertible.

Which is bullshit. Check Google Earth.

Maybe he was starting to think...

that you were onto him.

That's why he took so long
to give you his full address.

Do you remember DI
Myerscough telling you how,

when Simmons was called
in to see the chairman,

he came upstairs from an office
he shared with a colleague?

Do you know what car
that colleague drives?

An old BMW convertible.

A BMW Series, navy blue,
with light cream leather interior.

I say that's the car he drives.
He has several. Cars are his thing.

Do you know what his dream car is?

I don't know.

- Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
- Think, Danielle.

He'll never be able to afford it.

It's one of the first
ones they ever made.

A Porsche .

It wasn't Andrew Simmons
you were talking to, Danielle.

It was his colleague, Casper.

Casper Lindström,

using Simmons's computer
in their shared office.

There's Casper.

Casper's desk.

And... the calendar.

When you were on his case, going
after the clues, like in Cluedo,

he'd have been sweating, wouldn't he?

Because you hear stories, don't you?

About pedophile hunters...

people wanting retribution,
some of them...

a little unhinged.

And he'd have been thinking...

"What if they find me?

What if they track me
down to this little office?

My time could be up, here.

Better to take it out on someone else".

That's why we looked at Casper.

That's why Casper's waiting
downstairs in a cell,

and not Simmons.

Now, I really need to
insist we take a break.

Come on, Tony.

[SCOFFS]

I'm not telling you.

You do know that?

I'm never giving you... I'm
never giving you any names.

[TENSE MUSIC PLAYING]

Maybe I want to help you, Tony, but...

I can't.

[DANIELLE] Something
to think about, isn't it?

[TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES]

Interview suspended at...

- :.
- [BEEP]

Jeez...

[TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES]

What's the longest
she could go down for?

Fifteen, weeks maybe?

And a ban from social media.

Well, there you go, then.

I think she'll take the
hit to protect the team.

But that's my take, anyway.

Other theories are available.

All I keep thinking is...

Maybe we put this back on
her, this entrapment thing.

How do you mean?

Let's do to her what she did to Simmons.

[MYERSCOUGH] In what way?

[BUZZER]

[HOBBS] Okay, so far this year

Pesticide has tweeted... what, Vanessa?

Six thousand times.

And according to their Facebook

they've been involved in the arrest
of over pedophiles since .

And then there's the text messages,
the emails, the forums.

- And there's the kids to look after.
- Yeah.

- You think it's all too much?
- [HOBBS] For one person?

So, here's what I'm thinking.

We ask her to say how she thinks
Simmons is feeling right now.

We invite her to show
regret over her mistake

and lead her down a path to
the point where she asks us

if he's okay.

Now when she asks us that, we
make a point of saying nothing.

We let the worry set in.

Have her convince herself

that he hasn't got over
the loss of his job

or the att*ck on his daughter,
and that maybe...

And look, she's got to be
the one to initiate this...

Maybe...

he's taken the easy way out.

Yeah?

No. We can't do that.

[HOBBS] Well...

it's that, or,

she goes down for a couple of months

and the whole thing goes on without her.

If that's all it is, that's all it is.

We'll have to leave it at that.

She needs to understand what can happen

if you carry on like this.

What can happen,

but hasn't actually happened.

[PHONE VIBRATING]

Sorry. Excuse me.

Hiya. Yep, go on. What have you got?

Six men, Vanessa, just
to put this out there...

Six men outed online for being
pedophiles in the last year

have taken their own lives.

- Two...
- Because of Danielle?

[PETIT] Two... just let me finish...

were completely innocent.

- Because of Danielle?
- People like Danielle.

So not because of Danielle,
that's the point.

Listen,

I'm sorry, but...

we can't take issue with her
and the tactics that she uses

if we're doing the same thing ourselves.

Makes us as bad as she is.

Then she really could be
sitting on our side of the table.

- [DOOR OPENS]
- [MYERSCOUGH SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]

Yes. That's great. Thank you.

Guv!

Yes. Thank you very much.

I've just got off the phone
with Social Services...

[OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING]

[INAUDIBLE DIALOGUE CONTINUES]

- [DOOR OPENS]
- [OMINOUS MUSIC CONTINUES]

[WHIRRING]

[BEEP]

[HOBBS] Interview resumes at :.

Detectives Myerscough and
Petit have left the room.

DCI Hobbs has returned.

For me, Danielle,

just because I don't want anyone
else ending up like Chloe...

Would you write down the names

of all those you know to
be involved in Pesticide?

I think we might have had this
question already, Detective.

Yeah, I know. Change the record, eh?

Are you not even going to
ask me the question, Natalie?

You're not even going to ask me

why we do this?

Because I am a mother,
first and foremost.

Because I don't want my kids growing up

in a world full of monsters.

I want them looked after, properly,

by people who know what they're doing.

Responsible people. People
who know what's best for them.

People who won't let them down.

Yeah, I... I know what you mean.

And yes, you are a mum, Danielle,

but, um...

Your kids, uh, Peter and Fiona,
how old are they again?

Seven and nine.

But they're not seven
and nine, are they?

They were seven and nine five years ago.

When they were taken away
by Social Services.

That's the information
I've just been given.

And that's what started all this, right?

This goes much wider, though, Natalie.

- This is... this is a global problem.
- No.

- It's a network.
- Danielle...

And if you just let me
talk to your colleagues

who are investigating
that side of things,

then I can help you make inroads...

Nobody wants that. Nobody's
playing. Not any more. No.

[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]

[CLEARS THROAT]

[MYERSCOUGH] Pesticide
tweeted , times

in the last two years.

Since Danielle came in this morning...

Nothing.

Danielle Dunne,

you will be charged with making
an improper communication online.

You will be taken downstairs

where you will be
read the charge in full.

Do you understand?

I do. Yeah.

Just one more thing, though, Natalie.

Just before we get into all that...

Can I just tell you about the man

who lives in the flat upstairs from me?

I mean, he is what I would like
to call "a complicated individual".

I mean, not to be trusted around
kids, in my humble opinion.

Can you give me seconds
just to talk about him?

[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]