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‐ If you were the guy who
lifted my cell phone last year
you may have noticed
that the camera roll
is rich in taco snapshots.
My inner life
tends to be measured
out in radishes,
meat and limes.
If you peered closely
at the tiny images
trying to figure out
who might spend so many
of his days in proximity
to small tortillas.
You may have inferred
that a startling number
of the tacos
came from a single source.
Guerilla Tacos,
a tiny operation that pops up
a few days a week
in Downtown Los Angeles.
Guerilla Tacos is a pretty
singular taqueria
the creation of Wes Avila
whose culinary training came
under Alain Ducasse in Paris.
Avila was crafting tacos
in empty storefronts
or stairwells or garage spaces
deep downtown
and there were rumors about
tacos made with diver scallops
weird vegetables and
sushi grade yellow tail.
When I published a list
of the best dishes of
I included his taco made
with roasted squash
rubbery Oaxacan cheese
and a hint of chili
and charred tomato.
The tortillas don't seem
to be made to order
but they are
fresh and toasty enough.
The taco equivalent
of the energy
of what Chinese cooks
sometimes call
"The breathe of the wok,"
is in full effect.
A Ducasse disciple, quitting
his job at an haute cuisine
pop up to serve
charred octopus tacos
on a downtown street corner.
You're not gonna find cooking
like this anywhere, but LA.
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I'm an LA guy, I drive.
I am, I am my truck,
my truck is me.
I'm going a slightly
screwy way.
I got off on the
instead of the
which I probably
shouldn't have.
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Everybody in the world has
an idea of what
Los Angeles is.
Everybody thinks they know
what Los Angeles means
even if
they've never been here.
And if you live in Los Angeles,
you're used to
having your city
explained to you
by people who come
in for a couple of weeks
stay in a hotel
in Beverly Hills
and take in
what they can get to
within minutes
in their rented car.
The thing that people find
hard to understand I think
is sort of
the ‐‐ the magnitude
of what's here.
The huge number of multiple
cultures that live in the city
who come together in this
beautiful
and haphazard fashion.
And you know, the ‐‐ the fault
lines between them
are sometimes where you find
the most beautiful things.
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I mean, I became a food writer
completely by accident
but it became
what I aspired to.
The idea of celebrating,
you know
the ‐‐ the glorious mosaic
of the city
on somebody else's dime
was just completely fun
and completely exactly
what I wanted to do.
I mean, I kept feeling
as if I was getting away
with something.
‐ There definitely is a
Jonathan Gold Los Angeles
and it's a Los Angeles that a
lot of people didn't know about.
He, like Raymond Chandler
showed you a vision
of Los Angeles
that was a new vision.
‐ Jonathan changed
the food writing world
because he was one of the first
restaurant critics
which was, who was perfectly
happy in..
I guess I even think happier
writing about the hard
to find small restaurants
in tiny little communities.
‐ Hi, how you doin'?
‐ Good. How are you?
Can I get a huarache de
with flor de calabaza?
‐ Flor de calabaza huarache?
‐ Yes.
‐ Sure.
You want cheese on that?
‐ Yeah.
‐ Okay.
‐ He was going to these places
where food critics
didn't always go
and he went
to mom and pop places
where generations of tradition
were being passed down
in the cooking.
LA is great that way
because you don't have to travel
far to taste
like you traveled far
and ‐‐ and I think that's what
made him such an interesting
writer
because he was so curious
about that type of cooking.
‐ This is a little sauce right
here from my grandmother.
She, she came up
with this, with this sauce
so my mom just wanted me
to bring you guys some
so you can taste it
and see how good it is.
It's really, it's really,
really good.
‐ Oh, there's
salsa de semillas inside.
‐ Yeah,
salsa de semillas.
It has peanuts, uh, uh,
garlic, uh, hojuelas..
It's really good.
‐ Thanks.
‐ You're welcome.
‐ The saddest moment
in Boyle Heights street food
most aficionados would agree
was the evening
the breed street vendors
were finally chased
from their scene.
This gathering had always been
rousted by the cops
every so often.
It was amazing
how quickly the circus
turned into a deserted
parking lot.
But Carmen Castellanos,
the soul of Antojitos Carmen
had been working
Boyle Heights since the 's
and after a brief stretch
on a sidewalk
next to an MTA building sight
she scraped together
the funding for a real
restaurant
just around the corner
and brought along her family.
Other LA restaurants
began as street food
but none quite so vividly
as Antojitos Carmen.
You want these guys
to succeed.
‐ He became a, a ‐‐ a figure
of the democratizing
movement in, in culture,
not just in writin'
not just in food writin', but
in the ability to tell stories
about America and the city
of Los Angeles in specific
through a series of, you know
restaurants and food experiences
that other people weren't
writin' about. He gave it value.
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[laughs]
‐ It's good.
So, Alice, we.. I wanted to talk
about some of these, uh
pieces we wanted Jonathan to do.
‐ Good.
‐ Um, suggestions rather.
‐ Right, well, I, I feel
the most important thing
and we've talked a little bit
about this before
is the Grand Central Market
piece.
‐ It's true, it's at that
tipping point.
It's been a symbol of a certain
kind of Los Angeles
for a very long time.
As it's been redeveloped
or the new restaurants
are coming in
or the ‐‐ the new
fancy butchers
it's gonna stop being
this sort of place that you
associate with the smells
and the tastes and the..
The look of that part
of Los Angeles
into being the sort of
precious artisanal
you know,
aren't we special to pay
$. for a skirt steak
kind of market.
‐ You know, can a pupuseria
exist next to, uh,
a fancy cheese store?
‐ Yeah.
‐ Is that the challenge that
these, that the owners now face?
‐ It is. I mean, I like
a lot of the new places
and I shop there all the time
but you have to have a place
where you have
like the, the tastes of
sort of last century
Los Angeles
existing with
the ‐‐ the modern taste.
There's something cultural
about it,
and there's something
about it that has become
part of Los Angeles
that I think
is sort of magical.
It's like when do you start
cutting into the flesh and bone
of the market?
And that's, that's a hard
question to answer, and I think
that would be something really
interesting to address.
‐ Yeah.
‐ I ‐‐ I'm hoping we can get
to that piece
sooner rather than later.
‐ Whenever we talk about
criticism in New York..
... Jonathan Gold's name
always comes up.
We're always like,
I wish we had Jonathan Gold
as our chief critic in New York
because I think
he's very fair.
I think what separates Jonathan
from the rest of the critics
is that his empathy level
is higher than anybody else's
and I think that shows
in his ‐‐ in his writing
but this is what pisses me off
about J. Gold.
I was in a place
that did very esoteric Chine..
Uh, Korean chicken barbecue.
I was like, "This is great.
I'm not gonna tell anybody
about it."
And then, in the corner I see
Jonathan Gold's review
and I was like, "m*therf*cker."
He knows every place.
I don't know how he does it.
You know, I don't know any
Korean that knows more about
Korean food than Jonathan Gold.
I don't know anybody
that knows every taco stop.
‐ I was at the wrong truck,
there's another fish one.
‐ I know.
That one's good too.
The ‐‐ the Cuatro Vientos has,
it has always been down there
and sometimes
the line is longer.
‐ Un taco!
‐ Ready to order?
‐ Uh, yeah, sure.
You guys tweeted about a, uh
tostada this morning,
that sounded really good.
What was that?
‐ Yeah.
‐ Yeah.
‐ Okay.
‐ I met Jonathan
pretty much right away.
He walked into the newsroom.
He look, acted like he
owned the place practically
and I thought he was
one of the bigger writers.
It turned out he was
just a proofreader
at the time
and I was an intern.
He invited me
up to his apartment
for his mom's, uh, peach pie
so, um, that ‐‐ that
changed a lot.
He sent roses the next morning.
‐ Oh, thank you very much.
‐ When I woke up this morning
and saw that tweet
it's like,
I know I have to come here.
‐ Yeah.
It's very super spicy.
‐ Oh, good.
‐ That looks great.
‐ It's amazing for us, people
like him, uh, that, that writes.
He said that, uh, these
tacos are number for him
and, uh, a ‐‐ actually
we're in
the process of getting a loan
from the bank
to get another truck done.
People asking us to go
to Orange County and San Diego.
‐ Here, I'll hold this.
‐ I gather that it's unusual
for people who've married
as long as we have,
to wanna hang out
together so much of the time,
but we kind of do.
‐ You know I've been wanting
you to do the piece on anonymity
for a long time?
There's still that old idea
of a restaurant critic
has to be anonymous,
but you know..
‐ Laurie doesn't edit
my pieces anymore
but she has this odd ability
of getting the best
out of her writers.
‐ And that's, uh,
we're doing an excerpt?
‐ Maybe, like, ,
like, inch little story.
‐ The weird way
that she does it with me
is probably, maybe not great
for the marriage
but it's,
she suggests something and..
...I'll, like,
say that's a really..
N ‐‐ no, that's not the way it
works, but in the way of, like
explaining to her that that's
not the way it works
I understand how it does work.
‐ I mean, other people have
written about it,
but not ‐‐ not in the way..
I don't think in the deeper way
that you want to do it.
‐ You think the history
of anonymity in a restaurant?
‐ That'd be, that'd be
very cool.
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‐ It would probably
be ideal to be anonymous.
I mean, I ‐‐ I was certainly was
in the early part of my career.
I mean, I would go to Spago,
basically looking like
a punk rock kid with my friend
who had one pair of pants.
And ‐‐ and we were not
being ushered
to the nice table
by the window
but any cri, any critic
who does restaurants
is gonna be recognized
soon enough.
Especially,
in the age of social media
where somebody will
tweet your picture
before you've gotten
your first cocktail, right?
I mean, the people
who disguise themselves
probably aren't getting away
with it nearly as much as they
think they are.
‐ I'm wearing this mask
because I'm an anonymous critic
which means that none
of the restaurateurs
or very few of them recognize
what I look like.
‐ Oy, gevalt.
‐ I almost ‐‐
‐ Oh, you didn't know that
I was gonna wear this thing?
‐ Well, I heard
that you were..
‐ I believe it's a positive
value, other people
disagree with me
but I'm always wanna
on the side of the consumer
and, uh, have a meal
experience that's a..
... just like what a normal
person would have.
People have told me that
there's pictures of me
in the kitchen
but it's with the mask on.
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‐ I mean, I think
it is essential to get
an unbiased look at
how a place is cooking
because they will treat people
that they know are writing about
them very differently.
Ruth Reichl did that famous
review of Le Cirque
where she went in disguised
as this sort of
frumpy woman and got treated
like garbage and then
the next week went in dressed
as herself and was treated
like a queen and wrote
a parallel review.
‐ I do all the
stuff you're supposed to do.
I always reserve
under different names
I switch up the names
I reserve under
I switch up the phone
numbers that I reserve under.
I mean, I have a whole series
of throw away phones
that I use just
for reservations.
It's ‐‐ it's kind of like the
it's ‐‐ it's kind of like
the fat man's version
of the "Bourne Identity,"
I think.
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‐ Sir, nice to see you again.
How are you doing?
‐ Good. How are you?
‐ Awesome. That's really good.
‐ Bonsoir.
‐ Bonsoir.
‐ Hello.
‐ I never know
when Jonathan is coming.
I don't know the night before,
you know, I don't know.
It's really the last minute, you
know, I never have a reservation
for Jonathan Gold, people.
No, it's another name
and boom, he's here.
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Panic in the kitchen.
The beans, the beans are f*cking
al dente, man, you eat the
beans?
You have nothing to do, John?
You have nothing to do?
‐ No, I have stuff to do, but..
‐ But what?
I'm always excited to cook
for him because Jonathan Gold
is a critic who is very
open to trying new things.
‐ Oh, my God.
That's insane.
I saw the corn on the cob
when I came in
so this is amazing
to see it turned into this.
‐ This is great.
‐ So what makes Ludo Ludo?
‐ Part of it is growing up
as a chef in a way
that almost nobody does anymore.
You know,
having the good fortune
to work his way up
in the kitchen
with three of the most
interesting chefs in France
and I think the way he just..
He loves Los Angeles.
He ‐‐ he likes working
with the produce here
he likes the kind of people
who live here.
He wanted to do something
that was personal
that ‐‐ that meant something
to him as a chef
and Los Angeles
has always been the place
certainly in the United States,
where you can come
and you can...reinvent yourself.
‐ Sometimes as a chef
we don't see what we create.
When Jonathan Gold
gave me an amazing review
for Ludo Bite in ,
I did not realize what I create
but Jonathan opened my eyes.
Wow! I just realized
I created a new concept.
‐ Food and writing have gone
together throughout history.
If you look at France
in the th century
or China in the th century,
uh, there wasn't just food
there, there was food
and someone writing about it
food and someone
thinking about it
and that relationship
is what turned food from fuel
to food into an art form.
It's true of literature,
it's true of plays
it's true of all
cultural art forms
that writing is what
made them digestible
so to speak by the masses.
You're trying to tell a story
make that experience
into something much bigger
but at a certain point, everyone
I mean, look at Yelp,
it's such an American thing
where everyone then
believes they are the critic
and they are the expert.
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‐ You know,
now everybody thinks
"Oh, I can go to
a restaurant
and write what
I think about it."
And if I use words like
toothsome, you know, then,
"Hey, I'm ‐‐ I'm a food writer."
‐ They all seem to
use the word amazing now.
"It's amazing!
The Mexican corn is amazing!"
You know, it's like, amazing
doesn't tell me anything.
‐ What is the
role of the critic
is a question that's being asked
and I think every area
of culture right now
because it's, like, "Well, why
do I need a food critic
"if I have Yelp, and why do
I need a book critic
if I've got Amazon reviews?"
I think what a critic brings
to the table is knowledge.
You know that
he's done his homework.
You know, if you're really
interested in a subject
you are gonna find the critics
that ‐‐ that speak to you
that you don't
always agree with
but that, that speak to you
that you feel
you'll learn something from
that you ‐‐ you found a new way
of seeing something after
reading what they had to say.
‐ The biggest thing
in restaurants over
say the last years
has been
the introduction of diversity.
[speaking in foreign language]
When Craig Claiborne
in the 's
was reviewing expensive
restaurants in New York
they were almost all French.
Then as you start to get
cuisines from all over
you can't look at cuisine as
a singular thing anymore.
There can be a thousand
different restaurants
that are great in
a thousand different ways.
‐ Two pieces of legislation
in and in
increased the number
of migrants
abolished standard quotas which
favored migration from Europe
opened up, uh, i ‐‐ immigration
to a much wider range of people.
LA was a leading edge
in diversity
population growth.
The immigrant population
has defined the country.
It's defined Los Angeles.
We are what we are
because of our diversity.
‐ Green bean..
...carrot, bell pepper..
‐ My name Tui. I'm the chef
of Jitlada restaurant.
I came America in .
I never went to
cooking school, but I learned
from my grand mom.
She teach me everything,
you know, like, uh..
What is this, what is that..
Like, uh, you know,
how to grow the lemongrass
how to grow the coconut,
how to grow the turmeric.
In ,
I bought Jitlada restaurant
but at first we lost money.
‐ We're going to Jitlada
right now.
It's my favorite
Thai restaurant in Los Angeles.
It serves all kinds
of Thai food
but what it specializes in is
the extremely spicy, aromatic
pungent cooking
of Southern Thailand.
"Warning, if you do not eat
spicy food, do not order this."
The ‐‐ the spicier it is,
actually the better it tastes
because the flavors
come into balance
because that's the way
it's designed.
‐ He have very good palate
on his tongue
because he can separate, like,
"Oh, you have this in here."
I ‐‐ I start laughing.
Especially with my Thai coffee.
No one in the whole wide world,
even my family
doesn't know what
I put in there, but he know.
I learned from
the customer
that Jonathan Gold
important for the people
in America.
And then one day he came here
and they all laugh
and they say
"Jonathan Gold in front of you."
And I remember my leg,
shaking like this, like
"Oh, my God,
is it Jonathan Gold?"
But still I didn't know
who is him, just the name.
‐ Well, thank you.
If she, if she brought it out
with this
then you know it's hot.
‐ This is extra chili that
you can pour on the beef if..
[speaking in foreign language]
‐ It's, it's spicy enough.
[laughs]
[laughs]
‐ Oh, no, it's fine.
‐ Oof.
‐ After he writes about
our restaurant
the people, they waiting,
you know, before we open.
They bring the newspaper.
I want to eat southern
Thai food, and after that
we are the famous restaurant
everyone know.
I, I feel, like a, so proud,
you know
if she like to learn in America,
you know?
‐ Bye, thanks again. Your, your
food is always so good.
‐ Well, thank you.
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‐ One of the amazing things
about Los Angeles
is that there really
is a thereness beneath
the thereness.
And of course,
some people think
what the hell is this place?
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‐ I think that you can build
a city any shape you like
as long as it works.
And you say,
"Works, Los Angeles works?"
Everyone tells you
that it doesn't work.
‐ Reyner Banham's
book came out
in the early 's
and he was the first person who,
I think made sense
of Los Angeles
for an awful lot of people.
The changes
that were occurring
in Los Angeles
were typical of a lot of
changes that were happening
in other cities
in this country.
And somehow or other,
Los Angeles had got there first.
‐ Right then, Los Angeles
needs some explaining
because it's normally regarded
as an unspeakable
sprawling mess
though certainly not by me.
‐ Pretty much all cities
in the th century
the th century,
grew from the centre outward.
Los Angeles was different.
You were getting
a post modern arrangement
whereby their peripheries
were more important
than the centre.
And all of these
different centers have grown
and they collided
with each other
into one giant megalopolis
of to million people.
And the city is so large
and so sprawling and so diverse
that it allows for the, the
interseses between the major
spaces
to be occupied by people
to create what they want.
And this is where Gold,
as a critic of urban living
comes in.
He provides a map for us.
His culinary mapping becomes
a cartography of the region
and through leading us,
we come to understand
our city.
‐ Los Angeles is a lot of
self‐contained communities.
We have communities
of people here
who are not cooking for tourists
and they're not cooking
for the newspaper critic
and they're not cooking
for the glory of it.
They're cooking
because they're filling
a specific need
that their community has.
Because of that, it becomes
almost the... anti‐melting pot
less a melting pot than sort of
a great glittering mosaic.
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There's no end to the fun
in the San Gabriel Valley.
And this is, uh,
El Monte proper.
Ca ‐‐ can't you feel the
electricity and excitement
in the air?
People not from Los Angeles
sometimes don't understand
the beauty you can find
in mini malls.
That's probably the best dim sum
in town at the moment.
That's the remaining, uh,
Chinese Islamic Restaurant.
Oh, this, this is Lupe's,
this is the place I love.
In case you think
I love everything
the stuff in that restaurant
is absolutely disgusting.
That place we just passed
called Pho Huynh is famous
for boiled ox penis
in your pho.
That place, uh, uh,
has like the best, uh, nim nong.
You ‐‐ you have another
pho place.
Oh, yeah, there is it.
It says, "Pho Kim."
Or Pho Kim?
Which is..
Sometimes they don't, like,
think these through.
This is Yee‐Lou
which is interesting
because it's a really
old‐fashioned
Chinese American place that's
been taken over by Chinese
who are doing
Chinese American food
as an exotic food
for Chinese people to eat.
In here is a Nanjing Kitchen
which specializes
in this duck dish that's just..
I'm not sure it's the most
pleasurable duck in the world
but it's perfect in its way.
It's sort of a, a boiled duck
with absolutely
all the fat taken out of it.
But there just happens to be
you know, in this
completely ordinary place
there, there happens to be
extraordinary food.
It's the miracle of
entry level capitalism I think.
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‐ My name is Genet Agonafer,
and I'm from Ethiopia.
I cam , Valentine's Day
with my son
with my ‐year‐old son.
Lemeneh Tefera is his name.
I moved to LA to provide
my son with education
and I was working
as a waitress for many years.
I raised my son being a
waitress for many, many years.
And that adorable son
is my grown son now.
I have another picture.
This is when he graduated
from medical school
and he's been practicing
medicine for years.
This space opened up
and my generous son
took cash advance practically
on all the credit cards he have
and opened it for me.
I was very busy at first,
and then / came
and then just
completely at a standstill
and my son was pumping money
to keep the place alive.
And then all of the sudden,
the review came
and I was, like, "Oh, my God."
Every day I would have
people out lining up.
Celebrities come.
I could not cook
the doro wat fast enough.
But for me, it was so important
to tell my son I could succeed
and whenever he comes here,
now he's just so proud.
‐ It takes a special
temperament
to be a food critic.
You need to have, you know,
a mixture of, sort of
um, ego, and, um
and‐and interest
and obsession with food
that very few people have.
‐ My first year
out of college, I was working
downtown
as a proofreader,
and I was bored out of my mind.
So I decided to make it
my project to eat
at every restaurant
on Pico Boulevard.
Pico Boulevard is kind of
Los Angeles' back porch.
It goes through
a remarkable swath of town.
There's a place called
the El Salvador Cafe
on the eastern end.
That was one of the first
Salvadoran places in town
and way at the
Santa Monica end was a place
called Tom's No.
which had my favorite
chili fries in town.
Those were really good
chili fries.
Pico, in a certain sense
was where I learned to eat.
I also saw my first punk rock
show on Pico, was sh*t at
fell in love, bowled a
witnessed a Kn*fe fight,
took cello lessons
raised chickens, ate Oki Dogs
and heard X Ice‐Cube Hole
and Willie Dixon perform
though not together.
It was fascinating
to go every night
and to sit into a place and have
my plate of rice and beans
or my papusas and listen
to the dialogue around me
to look at the stacks of
newspapers people were reading
to, you know,
seeing what was on the TV
that was perpetually on
in the corner
to see what people
were talking about.
I gradually started to find
things out that I didn't know.
The Mexican restaurants
weren't all just Mexican
restaurants
and they were from
different regions of Mexico.
This was the time
in the early 's
when the wars were bad
in Central America
a lot of people migrated
to Los Angeles.
And they started out
selling street food
then they opened
little restaurants
and by the time I was
in the middle of my project
they had colonized
an entire strip.
I learned this very quickly
as a journalist
that if you randomly go up
to somebody on the street
and start talking to them
they're probably
not gonna talk to you
they're gonna think
you're odd and brush you off.
But if you're doing it
in a restaurant..
... you have a context
in which to be
so you'll sit down
and they'll feed you
and they'll be nice to you,
and maybe there'll be some
gossip.
It was the year
that I got to know
Los Angeles as Los Angeles.
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Hello‐o‐o.
‐ Hello, there, darling.
How are you?
‐ Okay.
‐ You saw what I wrote, right?
I answered somebody's tweet.
I said, you know, "Yeah, he'll
do a Kuala Lumpur restaurant"
but what, there's,
like, one of them.
[laughing]
‐ Yeah, and ‐‐ and then
another person said
"Oh, he'll run out of
restaurants in Koreatown."
I ‐‐ I refrained from saying,
there are restaurants
in Koreatown.
It's not gonna happen
in your lifetime, buddy.
I seem to be going through
a Korean foods fixation.
‐ Welcome back to "Good Food"
it's that time where we check in
with our resident gourmand
on where to eat this weekend
in Los Angeles.
So where are we going?
‐ We're going to
a restaurant called Soban.
‐ And what is their specialty?
‐ They're specialty
is Galbi Jim.
They're famous ‐‐
‐ I remember the first time
I went to a Jonathan Gold
approved restaurant
from the "LA Weekly"
and, you know, you drive
into a mini mall
and you're, like, "Really?"
You know, "Really?
I'm not gonna be waylaid?"
I'm ‐‐ I'm not gonna be mugged
walking into this place?
And you walk in and it's, like,
"Oh, yeah, it's people
it's just people."
‐ This isn't the El Bulli
of sandwich shops
but he does, kind of,
use his toys
in making them which makes
a lot of it fun.
‐ He's so much more
than a food writer.
Jonathan is
a cultural commentator
who uses food
and restaurants as a way
of creating these little
commentaries on modern life.
[instrumental music]
I've been eating lately
at Chego, the new restaurant
from Kogi Auteur Roy Choi, the
architect of the truck‐based
restaurant phenomenon,
and the only chef I know
whose food is capable
of attracting
several hundred people to an
Eagle Rock parking lot
at midnight.
Chego specializes
in rice bowls
wavy, baroque constructions
that splice
all the flavors of the city
into great splooshes
of combinatorial DNA.
Pickled watermelon radish,
sautéed ong choi
crumbled cotija cheese and a
spurting slab of pork belly
that's been burnished as
lovingly
with Korean chili paste
as a ' Impala show car
has been rubbed with lacquer.
‐ David!
‐ Kogi's taco
is a new paradigm
of a restaurant
an art directed take
on Korean street food
previously unimaginable
in both California and Seoul.
Cheap, unbelievably delicious
and unmistakably
from Los Angeles.
Food that makes you feel
plugged into the rhythms
of this city
just by eating it.
‐ We're working on some
new dishes right now.
This is, um, it's summertime
here in Los Angeles
so we're working on a tomato,
watermelon, goat cheese
Thai basil, soy, chili,
lemongrass dish.
In all of my properties,
the only litmus test is
when we eat it, can I just throw
this down and say, "f*ck."
If we say that,
then, then, uh
then the dish makes it
to the menu.
The small kitchen keeps us
together, keeps us focused.
There's nowhere
to move around
so you have to be really
creative and move here, boom.
It's all about muscle memory,
boom, boom, boom.
It's fun, it makes
for a lot of jokes too
because we bump asses
with each other all the time.
Especially right here.
This is the danger zone
right here.
[laughter]
You know, the weird thing
about my ‐‐ my first interaction
with Jonathan is, uh,
he helped me figure out
what we were trying to do.
Kind of like, "Oh,
this is what Kogi is."
We're kind of, like,
this Justice League
of, like, kind of weird,
warped super heroes
that came together
to feed the city, you know.
When he writes about me,
he understands..
... and is able to articulate
the little
kind of secret, you know..
You know, tangled webs
I have inside
that I'm trying to put out
into the plate.
He, like, understands it.
I never explained it to him.
He gets exactly
where that came from.
Like, we were trying
to recreate..
...how Asian kids grow up
and eat in their home
um, and what their
refrigerators look like
but also how stoners eat.
In that first review, he was
able to capture that moment
you know,
of ‐‐ of what was happening.
Anthony!
‐ I kind of
like that Italian beef.
They have those Italian beef
sandwiches that's marinated.
Alice always said
it was marinated
because it was such crappy meat
that they have to marinate.
‐ Modern food writing starts
with Calvin Trillin.
He was saying, that,
you know, everyone reveres
these French restaurants that
no one wants to eat at
and you know, and it's the,
the colloquial food
that's really important,
and I think that's, you know
that was, like, the battle call
for both Jonathan and for Robert
and then for a lot of people
who have followed after.
‐ Alright, what are we gonna do
here, Jonathan?
You're the guy, you're
the expert, you're the food guy.
‐ I was probably
a sophomore in college
and I, I was house sitting.
Among the books in the study
was "American Fried"
you know, Calvin Trillin's
first book.
And I read it, and I was
utterly fascinated by it.
I read "American Fried"
and "Alice, Let's Eat"
so many times.
Yeah, I ‐‐ I imitated him
absolutely blindly
when I started.
Trillin was writing
about eating
he was writing about
the culture of eating
and it was obviously
the way to go.
‐ You know, I always say that
if I'm in a strange town
and I don't know where to eat,
I go up to the motel clerk
grab him by the necktie
and pull him over the counter
just to get his attention
and I say, "Not where you took
your parents
"for their
th wedding anniversary
"the place you went to
the night you got home
after months in Korea."
And the second place
is really good.
‐ And I think
your ‐‐ your idea
has become almost the norm now
that if you're gonna be
a newspaper critic or a writer
in a, in a big town,
you better
you know, know among
the good rib stands
which, which is up
and which is down.
‐ Why?
That didn't used to be true.
[instrumental music]
‐ This ‐‐ this is, uh,
King Taco which is beloved.
It's not necessarily
my favorite
but it's very good tacos,
you know,
pretty good al pastor
and one of the great things
about it is they actually
have a truck parked
outside the restaurant
sort of this canopy,
place of honor
and if you come on
a weekend night, there'll be
an hour wait for the truck,
and you can walk right up
to the counter
at the restaurant itself.
I've had the tacos at the truck
and at the restaurant
and it's correct, you actually
do want the ones from the truck
but it's, I've always wondered
why the taco
honors the truck so much.
My theory is that taco eating
is...it's almost a verb.
Taco should be a verb, right..
The ‐‐ the, the tortilla,
the tortilla's hot, the ‐‐ the,
the meat's hot
they combine,
the sauce is sloshed on it
and then you're almost eating it
in one continuous motion
from the way it comes from the
grill to the guy to the counter.
I know it's overly romantic.
[indistinct chatter on TV]
[chuckles]
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a great place.
And speaking of that, um..
...if, if we're looking for
somebody for the picnic
if we're doing
a sandwich thing..
I mean, there's some
interesting people
doing sandwiches right now,
but, uh, Fred Eric
has this new place
attached to his Tiara
called Delish.
I'm definitely
a great procrastinator.
I suppose when I need to have
an attention span for something
I ‐‐ I have an attention span
for something, but..
...it's ‐‐ it's, it's hard,
it's hard to explain.
So for some reason
you wanted that, right?
‐ Yeah, that was great.
I think that's perfect.
‐ I mean, o ‐‐ otherwise I
would have sent the call away.
[laughs]
A ‐‐ as is my want.
Keep as new..
Maybe if the internet
went away
but even before the internet,
I mean, I would always find
you know, books
and magazines
I had to read before I could
finish an article.
Now, I have
the attention span of a gnat.
‐ Being Jonathan's editor
it's like being someone's,
like, teenage stalker for me.
I knew he won't
turn his piece in
even if he agrees to do it
and then I realized that
what it was gonna take
would be, you know,
bordering on psychotic levels
of, of e‐mail and phone
and text harassment.
[cell phone ringing]
‐ Hm, I'll call
when I get back.
You know, actually I went
to somebody who specialized
in writer's block.
I mean, that was her thing,
and she just threw her hands up
and usually I do writer's block,
I do people who can't write.
There's something
that keeps them from writing
yet you publish , words
a year. Clearly you're writing.
That, I'm not, I don't deny that
what you're experiencing
is something, but I have
no idea what it is.
I mean, I could
sit down and I can say that
"Oh, you need to do
this piece a week early"
but I end up like, you know,
torturing one paragraph for
you know, and a half days
and then somebody calls
and starts yelling at me
and the rest of the piece will
be done in an hour and a half.
‐ So...alright.
What else we need
to talk about is what you think
you might be doing in terms
of reviews for the next
couple of weeks.
‐ I think next week will be, um
this new
Szechuan restaurant in..
...surprise, Alhambra.
‐ Mm‐hmm.
‐ That, um, is called
the Chengdu Taste.
Like, there's, um,
there's a dish on the menu
called intriguingly enough, uh..
..little sister's
spicy rabbit.
‐ Yeah, great.
‐ I don't think
they're actually cooking ‐‐
‐ Rabbit?
‐ Oh, it's rabbit,
but I don't think
it's, like,
the little sister's rabbit.
I think it's in the style of..
...the way a little sister
would make it
unless it actually was ‐‐
‐ I sort of regard him
some days as my younger
much smarter little brother
um, and I'm the first born,
and I'm the responsible one
and I have to make
the trains run on time
and he's the funny, smart,
talented one, and I, uh
there's probably some love
buried down there deep inside
but um, uh..
...it's, sometimes the role
is difficult to play.
So, how difficult, alright
is it gonna be
to photograph there?
Is there gonna be
a language barrier?
There is gonna be
a language barrier.
‐ We need to take care
of that this afternoon.
‐ Okay, I'll do that.
‐ Okay, um ‐‐
‐ You come up
with the cattle prod
I'll come up with the copy.
‐ Awesome.
‐ Chengdu Taste.
Everybody's excited about it.
Not 'cause we haven't had
Chengdu style food here before
but the sort of freshness,
the, the vividness
of the flavors
the fact that everything
is not just lashed
with oceans of chili oil
makes it sort of
a really appealing place.
One thing that I try
never, never to do
is to pretend expertise
that I don't have.
I like to come to it the way
that I assume most of my
readers are gonna come to it..
... that I don't necessarily,
no more than they do
and I find out
Chengdu is the largest city
and the capital
of Sichuan proper.
Um, it's inland, so there's
probably not gonna be
a lot of sea food..
...although these
pictures are all, like
you know, abalone crab.
I very rarely take notes
in a restaurant.
I'm more involved in, sort of,
observing
the music of the meal.
I mean, you could take notes
when you're having sex too
but you'd, sort of,
be missing out on something
and I go to restaurants
usually or times
before I review them.
In the case of places
where the cuisine
is unfamiliar to me
I may go many, many
more times than that.
I think my record is .
[sighs]
Uh, let's get
the...the fish with green chili.
They ‐‐ they don't have
that chicken dish you like
but they have, uh ‐‐
‐ That's okay.
I mean, I don't ‐‐
‐ And the wonton with ‐‐
‐ Okay.
‐ I've been thinking
that you'll like
the water boiled fish.
A lot of, uh,
Sichuan peppercorn..
[instrumental music]
‐ Hi, how are you today?
Nice to see you again.
‐ Nice to see you too.
Thanks.
I mean the sense
of discovery of eating
something you've never
had before is exhilarating.
But what's even better
I think is
you get through
the exhilaration
you go through
the infatuation phase
for the next couple
of meals and then maybe
if you're really lucky,
you get to the place
of understanding.
I mean, I wouldn't pretend
to know anything at all
about Burma from having had
two dozen Burmese meals, right?
But there was, uh, certainly
a point where I thought
I knew something about Burma
for having that
and it's, like, seeing
a movie or something
like, seeing a documentary.
It gives you the illusion
of understanding things
and maybe you have a different
context to put things in
and sometimes that's,
that's all you can ask for
and sometimes that's enough.
No shortage of bean sprouts.
‐ The book that
we oughta write
would be some sort of popular,
populist thing
on all these communities
and who runs what
and all the stuff that I always
wanna know the answer to.
Between the two of us,
the number of hours spent
not writing that book..
...it would be,
it would take a lifetime
not to write that book.
‐ Yeah, sure.
‐ Okay.
‐ You will probably find
this Chengdu style cooking
lighter, cleaner, and less
likely to wake you up
in the middle of the night
with chili oil induced
nightmares.
The food is still quite spicy,
flavored with a vast array
of fresh, dried, pickled
and ground chilis.
The almost electric charge
of the peppercorns
brings out the flavor
of the filets and chilies.
The taste flits
around your lips and tongue
with the weird vibrancy
of a flashing Las Vegas sign
where the pepper sauce
with the wonton
obliterates
everything in its path
like a mysteriously
pleasurable
punch in the mouth.
[keys clacking]
‐ The little secret
that people don't get about
Jonathan's writing is the way
he uses the second person.
He'll start a review
something like
um, you probably have found
in the past
that deer penis is not
really worth the effort
that the, that the amount of
gristle and fat and bone
is just to high in proportion
to the amount of stringy meat
you're able to pull off,
but that's because
you've never had deer penis
at this Vietnamese restaurant
that specializes in it.
In the first paragraph, he's
formed a bond with the reader.
You know, you and I are people
who eat deer penis
and you know even though
the readers
even though .% of his readers
has never ordered
or eaten deer penis
he brings you to his table
in a way that
I've never seen another
restaurant writer do.
[instrumental music]
‐ It takes great writing
and great storytelling
to elevate food criticism
to what Jonathan does
and Jonathan was the
first Pulitzer prize winner
for food criticism.
‐ The fact that someone could
write about food in such a way
as to get the attention of
people not in the food world
but in the journalism world,
in the cultural criticism world
to me was hugely significant.
‐ I think the fact that he got
the Pulitzer for food criticism
sort of put the stamp on food
as a, um, a subject
worthy of, of serious inquiry.
‐ Thank you,
‐ Are you guys
interested in wine?
‐ Coffee is fine. Thank you.
‐ Right. Sounds good.
‐ Have you ever
been on any kind of a diet?
Have you ever made any
sort of dietary restrictions?
‐ Hm, no.
[both laughing]
‐ I mean, you've read
all the stuff that, like
cooking is actually
what makes us human.
‐ Right. I had to explain
to my year old.
Like, what's the diff..
It was like, she's like,
"We're animals."
I'm, like, "Yeah, we're
animals." She's like
"So what makes us people?"
And I was like, "Well, we cook."
And she seemed satisfied
with that.
That's the difference
between me and a monkey
because I will puree
the banana for you
and he will just
throw it at you.
So what's,
what's your next thing
for "Lucky Peach" going to be?
Or what ideas
can I steal from you
and then put into "Lucky Peach?"
I'm taking hagfish
and you threatened to take me
to the hagfish restaurant.
‐ I didn't thr*aten you,
did you go to the hagfish
restaurant?
‐ I have not yet been
to the hagfish restaurant.
[chuckles]
I didn't think that
you were f*cking with me
but your description
of the hagfish..
‐ Well, the first thing about
the hagfish is that it's not
really delicious.
It's like eel,
only a lot worse.
Really? Like muddier? Blander?
‐ It's bla, it's blander
and the filets are gelatinous
but sort of everything
about the hagfish
is bothersome, right?
The fact that it's this
weird hybrid
of a vertebrate and
invertebrate
it's really sort of
an early species and the..
It has a cranium,
but it really
has no other bones.
‐ And then the slime thing.
‐ And the slime thing.
You could put a hagfish
in a gallon bucket of water
and the bucket will turn
to solid slime in seconds.
‐ Jonathan doesn't write about
food because it's weird
like that's not, I don't think
that's ever a sole motivator
though he is,
like, uniquely good at finding
horrible things to eat.
Um, he writes about it
because people eat it
and that's a part
of their culture and their world
and if you learn about that,
then you're connected to them.
‐ Now we're
going down Westwood Boulevard
and towards,
what was for so many years
Junior's Deli,
which was the deli
my family grew up going to.
For, uh, reformed
Jewish families in Los Angeles
sometimes like
your deli is more telling
of who you are
and what your status is
and how you grow up
than the show you went to.
If your family
went to Nate'n Al's
you were,
you were kind of fancy.
If your family went to, uh..
...Labels Table,
you were probably
pretty close to working class,
but if your family was going
to Junior's, you were, you were
doing alright.
You ever been here before?
‐ No, I never have.
‐ It's kind of like
a social scene in Tehran
that's reproducing itself,
like years later.
‐ That's cool.
‐ It's funny that
everybody thinks
we had this sort of like
gourmet upbringing, right?
Just remembering the stuff that
we ate when we were kids.
‐ What do you mean?
Iceberg, salad..
Um, orange jello, French fries
cream wafer sticks,
and Dr. Pepper.
That was like the perfect meal.
What are you talking about?
‐ When you describe
it like that, it sounds like
one of those typical last meals
that prisoners request..
[laughs]
...before they go
to the electric chair.
‐ We just had that a lot.
‐ We did have that a lot.
‐ So have you eaten
any endangered species lately?
‐ Yes,
I had an ortolan soufflé.
It was, it was delightful.
My brother
and I are pretty different.
I mean, he's an
environmentalist.
He lives to save the ocean.
And I'm the guy
who bought the truck
that was the single most
polluting vehicle
in consumer reports that year.
I'm not proud of it, but Mark
definitely pointed it out to me.
‐ Dinner at the Gold table
was always a blood sport
because all of us brothers
were always
ragging on each other
all the time.
How can you say, "Okay, this is
an amazing sushi place"
and say,
"Don't eat the blue fin"
when you're still getting
people to go to that place?
‐ Well, I'm,
I'm subtler than that.
‐ Mm, yes and no.
You're the one who was on a
Korean whale eating tour.
I have to be an
environmentalist
because Jonathan's eating
everything I'm trying to save.
The question is whether
or not you go to the point
o ‐‐ of using a regulatory
mechanism to have this country
lead by example.
I've often thought that one
of my biggest achievements
was getting my brother to write
and op‐ed piece on a bill
that we were pushing to ban on
the sale of shark fin products
in the state of California.
Believe me,
I'd like to see, you know
shark's fin soup
banned tomorrow..
It took me months to get him
to write that piece
but I read his piece
and my anger melted away.
"But as much as
you might love conpoy
"dried flotation bladders,
crab eggs, braised fish cheeks
"and the other esoterica
of Cantonese seafood cooking
"It is hard to work up
an appetite
for the bitter taste
of extinction."
I had people who worked on the
bill say that that was one
of the most critical aspects
of the entire campaign
to get the bill passed, and so
the power of how well he writes
really made a big difference.
[instrumental music]
‐ My dad always wanted
to be a writer
and he was very talented.
‐ My father was probably
the most overeducated
probation officer in the history
of Los Angeles County.
He really wanted to be an
English professor.
He was all but dissertation
in American Literature
but LA County probation
paid a lot more
than being an English professor.
So, our household
was all about culture
and we were just exposed to,
you know, any book we wanted.
Doesn't matter what our
financial situation is
that book would appear.
‐ There was always
music playing
usually my dad's infatuation
with either
Mahler or Italian opera.
And there was the idea
that the culture of the nation
was sort of like flowing
through our living room.
‐ What are you working on?
‐ Oh, well, yeah.
Okay, so here, here, here it is.
‐ Oh, I remember this.
This was in your
painting class.
‐ Yeah.
‐ Dark stuff.
Isabel has always drawn,
even when very young, or
she used to paint and draw
pictures like incessantly.
I mean, it must be hard
living with writers, right?
I mean, people who are
who basically judge
or you think judge
every single sentence
that you say.
Maybe that's why
she went into cartooning.
"Cold okapis!"
Looks like I have, like,
a split lip
like a dog, that's good.
[instrumental music]
I hope my kids have grown up
with culture in the way
that I grew up with culture.
I mean, I do this thing
where we go to a museum
and we stand in front
of a painting for half an hour
and we talk about the painting
and every single
thing about it.
And the idea of being able
to spend that much time
with your child and having
that dialogue about it
is ‐‐ is just wonderful.
These are all like
members of the congress
or something, right?
‐ Yeah, yeah.
‐ None of them were so
stoked about these, right?
‐ I mean, I think he was
the first caricaturist.
And he was very vicious
in his things
but he was also
like really accurate.
‐ Well, you might not have
to see eyes on that one.
It's like when you're writing
something
and you're just describing
something as a, as a writer
you can't list
every single detail.
You've gotta pick
just a couple of details
that let the reader see
and then they'll build
the person up
in their imagination.
And so, like this guy,
you know, he's round
and he's squat
and he's froggy
and, you know, like there's
nobody in the world
with a nose
that's that big.
[instrumental music]
‐ In just a few months, La Tia
has already established itself
as one of the most serious
Mexican restaurants
in Los Angeles in complexity
and deftness.
I always end up with the quail
in the traditional black mole
so dark that it seems
to suck the light out
of the airspace around it.
Spicy as a novella
and bitter as tears.
Mole whose aftertaste
can go on for hours.
La Tia's mole n*gro
appears so glossy and rich
that I'm always tempted
to test its consistency
by stabbing an index finger
into it
and the resulting stain
lingers as long
as the empurpled digits
of patriotic Iraqi voters.
The last time
I was as inspired
by glossy black
it was part of Charles Ray's
infamous sculpture Ink Box
and it was enshrined
in a major museum of art.
[radio buzzing]
[indistinct chatter on radio]
[radio buzzing]
[indistinct chatter on radio]
[radio buzzing]
[indistinct chatter on radio]
[radio buzzing]
‐ Hey, this is Garth Trinidad
from KCRW and I am here
with Jonathan Gold,
food critic and writer
who actually got his start
writing about music.
‐ Yeah, I was the classical
music critic at the "LA Weekly"
before I did anything else
and then later got to write
about Los Angeles hip hop.
‐ So we're going to be talking
about some of his favorite songs
as part of the KCRW
Guest DJ project.
♪ Flow my tears ♪
Can we talk about the song
that you picked
"Flow My Tears" real quick.
‐ Sure, uh, I was a classical
music geek growing up.
I was locked in a, uh,
small room with my cello
for most of my adolescents.
Uh, I played, you know
viola da gamba.
That's the way to get
the chicks I'm telling you.
John Dowland was probably
the hit composer
of the Elizabethan era,
a little bit afterwards.
"Flow My Tears"
was more or less
the "Stairway To Heaven"
of like .
♪ Where night's black bird ♪
♪ Her sad infamy sings ♪♪
‐ My dad wanted a string trio
with the three brothers
and I was the worst
violinist player ever.
Josh was probably
the worst viola player ever
and Jonathan's the guy
who had some talent
and really stuck with it.
He knew every single opera and
every classical music piece.
They used to have a contest
on the radio
on classical music
and opera trivia
that he would excel
and dominate on.
‐ He didn't grow up
with rock and roll
the way most of us did
just because his parents
were mostly listening
to classical music
and because he was so obsessed
with the cello, that was..
The cello
was kind of his whole life.
So he experienced like there's a
kind of radical shift
when he heard, you know,
punk rock for the first time.
‐ You brought, okay, a track
from the Germs, "Forming?"
‐ "Forming" is the first
LA punk single
ever recorded in Los Angeles.
♪ Rip them down hold them up ♪
♪ Tell them that I'm your g*n ♪
♪ Pull my trigger
I am bigger than.. ♪♪
Punk rock is sort of what
got me out of my shell
and somebody dragged me
to the Whisky
to see a show of, you know,
X and The Screamers.
I was just..
"You can do this?"
"It's possible to do this?"
And it was as transforming
as anything I've ever done.
[indistinct]
♪ Realize all your lies ♪
♪ Hide behind
your suits and ties ♪
♪ The life you lead
your mouth to feed ♪
♪ Is it really based on these? ♪
♪ What you do
will get you through ♪
♪ A humdrum life
here in the zoo ♪♪
‐ I think punk rock
is one of the things
that's really helped
shaped his world view
and his ideas as a critic.
The idea of disruption
and, and pushing boundaries.
When Jonathan came in
and was first a critic
the fact that the "LA Times"
was reviewing, you know
a burrito place, was disruption.
[instrumental music]
[indistinct]
‐ That's delicious,
I love mezcal.
‐ Mezcal on an empty stomach.
Welcome to LA.
[speaking in Spanish]
‐ My dad was a mezcal maker
in Oaxaca
and things were going really bad
for my dad in '
and that's when, um,
the peso devalued
so there was an economic
downfall in Mexico
so he decided to move here.
So he just started
kinda exploring LA
and this area
where we are right now
Koreatown, there was a lot
of Latinos and a lot of people
from Oaxaca that lived
in the area.
So my dad opened
a little food stand
and it became very popular
among people from Oaxaca
because they just knew
that's where you went
to get Oaxacan food.
So he was like, you know, um ‐‐
"Let's open up a restaurant."
It was this little hole in the
wall, maybe like tables
and we opened
like a little alley
it was like totally illegal.
So one day my dad
walks in and was like
"Where are all of these
white people coming from?"
Because there were all
these white people.
Somebody was like, "Don't you
know you were in the
'LA Times?'"
In fact, Jonathan Gold
reviewed the restaurant
before the Spanish
speaking media.
And now the restaurant's run
by my sister, my brother
and myself, and we sit
people here.
‐ These are so delicious.
‐ The grasshoppers?
‐ They're so delicious.
I think there's things,
I mean one, it's insects
and two, it's a whole animal,
which is still
really hard for Americans.
I mean, if we're going to
survive as a species
we're going to eat insects.
‐ We are.
‐ I mean, unless we're idiots.
‐ For us,
the Oaxacan community
we owe him a lot
because in Oaxaca
people are really
looked down on
because we come
from an indigenous background
and to have someone put it
out there and say
come and taste
this Oaxacan food.
I think it even helped me
as a person
to embrace my culture
because people cared
about my food and people cared,
and people were really like
"Oh, your food's like,
your food's cool"
and I was like,
"Yeah, my food's cool."
[instrumental music]
‐ Hello.
‐ He's a funny guy.
The don of dogs.
‐ How you doing, Duane?
‐ What's up, big guy?
‐ Same old, you?
‐ Hot dogs.
‐ So, so you're, you're back
to the cart.
‐ I'm back to the cart,
we're doing it big again.
We did this just
to let people know
hey, what's happening,
we're about to get back open.
It's cool because I'm getting
a lot of my old customers
who were hot dog cart customers,
pulling up saying
"I could have sworn,
I saw your little peanut head
"standing over there,
so I had to come back
over here and see
what your hot dogs were like."
‐ Earle's Wieners
is opening up!
‐ years, since what '?
‐ '.
‐ '
‐ Crenshaw suave, baby.
‐ Lotta dogs.
‐ There's no tidy way
to eat one of these.
I've always felt
a little uncomfortable
about claiming hood.
I grew up in South LA,
but I obviously
my family moved out before..
... when I was still very young.
We had moved there,
or my parents had moved there
in the late 's
when my dad was a teacher
at Audubon Junior High School
which was this sort of
beautifully integrated school.
There were, you know..
There were lots of black kids
and lots of white kids
and lots of Japanese kids,
and it seemed like
that was gonna be
the future of LA
and he wanted to be part of it,
so he moved into the community.
Some of my earliest memories
are of the riots in .
You know, sitting at the top
of our hill
and, and seeing the fires
burn down below
of seeing the tanks
go along Crenshaw Boulevard
and after that
the neighborhood changed.
[instrumental music]
‐ We're here
with Jonathan Gold.
So you brought Funkadelic with
the classic "Maggot Brain."
‐ Maybe you remember
in the old days
when you could actually
buy like, um, soul records
in liquor stores.
I was or
when I was trying to buy
uh, you know,
beer on a false ID.
And I picked up "Maggot Brain"
because I loved the cover.
Got home and put it on
and the guitar solo
Eddie Hazel,
it's just amazing.
It just keeps flowing.
It has a sort of, uh, majesty
that you expect from somebody
like, you know, Wagner
the concept
of the endless melody
the one that goes on forever.
Almost all of blues guitarists
just peter out in the middle,
they have nothing more to say
so they did the wa wa wa,
but Eddie Hazel doesn't.
He always has something new
to say, and the tune
and the chord progression
keeps folding in on itself
and showing itself
in all of these
you know, wonderful
miraculous ways.
[instrumental music]
‐ Please join me in welcoming
Jonathan Gold.
‐ Thank you.
Hi.
I, in some ways I think
come to you as an emissary
from the world of failure
a rare citizen
of the wide country
where things do not turn out
exactly as you've planned.
I'm here to say
that that's okay.
Still, when I wake up
in the morning
I don't feel
like a semi‐successful writer
a chronicler of Los Angeles
I feel like a failed cellist
which was more or less
my UCLA experience.
But all of us, especially
those of us in the arts
experience failure,
and it is this experience
of failure
that makes us strong
that helps
make us who we are.
Did my UCLA
acquired knowledge help me
when I wrote about hip hop
in the s?
Not directly, but it was a way
of listening
that gave me a way
to understand the music
in an important way.
Did my experience in writing
about opera and new music
have anything to do
with food writing?
Yes, as it turns out,
on a very basic level
criticism is criticism.
An aria is in some way
equivalent
to a well‐cooked potato
and both the comprehension
of form and the ability
to describe abstract sensation
which I learned to do
as an undergraduate
in music and art courses here,
turns out to be exactly
what I needed to know.
[hip hop music]
‐ I think the great human ill
is, uh, contempt prior
to investigation.
Jonathan takes that idea..
It's a really comfy idea
for a lot of Americans
and he just, he just blows it
the f*ck up.
[music continues]
‐ Jonathan Gold
is my guest DJ.
Okay, man, so you brought
some LA gangsta rap.
Some Los Angeles gangsta rap
and you brought "G Thang"
from, uh, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg.
Now, listen, the rumor is
you were in the studio
a lot of the time with them
when they were actually
recording "Doggystyle"
and stuff like that.
‐ Yeah, yeah, I was.
‐ This was when you
were really writing
about a lot of that music
during that time.
‐ Right, LA hip hop was great,
but nobody ever heard it.
Everybody just heard
the New York stuff
and Dre was the guy
who figured out
how to slow it down,
made it gangsta.
Chronic, I think was the total
breakthrough album.
It crossed over
to the bouncing cars
to the hanging out
and barbecuing in the park.
It was less
about bang bang bang
and it was more about,
this is the neighborhood
you live in
and you're enjoying it
and y'all are invited
to the party
and there's something beautiful
about that.
♪ It's like this and like that
and like this and uh ♪
♪ Dre creep to the mic
like a phantom ♪
♪ Well I'm peepin' and I'm
creepin' and I'm creep‐in' ♪
♪ But I damn near got caught
'cause my beeper kept beepin' ♪
♪ Now it's time for me
to make my impression felt ♪
♪ So sit back relax
and strap on your seat belt ♪
‐ You know,
after the Los Angeles riots
there was a lot
of hand wringing
about what had gone wrong
in this city
and there was a movement
to like get to know
who your neighbors are
but long before the riots
and after Jonathan Gold
was introducing us to people
and to neighborhoods.
‐ There's a certain level of
Utopian thinking in his work.
There's a certain level
of dedication
to asking the question
how we live.
He talks about
the miscegenation
between races in essence
appearing over the table.
Those food nations
become an integral part
of the way he sees Los Angeles
in a way
Los Angeles comes together.
♪ It's like this and like that
and like this and uh ♪
♪ It's like that and like this
and like that and uh ♪
♪ It's like this and we ain't
got no love for those ♪
♪ So just chill
till the next episode ♪♪
[instrumental music]
‐ There's so many different
ways to tell stories
about Los Angeles, and
of course, uh, telling stories
through food is one of the ways
Jonathan Gold does that.
Um, and the piece
he's going to read
represents another way
of talking about Los Angeles
in a moment when, um,
the fabric of the city
kind of looked like
it wasn't going to hold.
So, Jonathan.
‐ This is an older essay
written, uh, the week
after the, um,
the riots in
and... it..
Well, I'll, I'll, I'll read
and you can, you can hear.
Um, I can't tell you
how much I love Los Angeles.
"It is o'clock and the light
has started to fade
"as I sit on the floor
of my apartment
"staring at the spot where
the rain not so much dripped
"as oozed from the door jam.
"For the last decade or so
"I have lived
in a creaking apartment
"probably swank in its day
"that has been
home to a dog trainer
"a fiddle player
and a series of writers
"in a smartly column building
in an aging neighborhood
"nobody has yet
bothered to name.
"Downstairs a baby
cries out in Spanish
"in the distance
the ghetto boys
"boom from a passing truck.
"For the fifth time,
in about an hour
"I think about
the other parts of town
"the ones with croissant shops
on the street corners
"and air conditioned
shopping malls
"and neighbors who look like me.
"Before the fires of April,
there were different kinds
"of ethnic restaurants
within a minute walk.
"Now, there are just .
"For a while, everything
in the neighborhood
"seemed just a little more
ominous.
"The Saturday night g*nshots
a little louder.
"The omnipresent sirens
and helicopters
"a little closer to home.
"When you spend some time
in my neighborhood
"you'll learn the rhythm
of the place.
"The mornings when the
Mexican's food truck
"shows up on the corner.
"The hour when Filipino
teenagers
"snack on liver buns and
Coca‐Cola at the pancit shop.
"The peaceful time
in late afternoon
"when the avenue
flows majestically.
"Guatemalan women walk home
from Ralph's
"with bags of groceries
"balanced expertly
on their heads.
"Salvadoran construction
workers crowd
"into the local Korean
noodle shop
"for steamed dumplings.
"In this neighborhood, most of
us are just passing through.
"Transients on our way
to more permanent homes
"in Long Beach
or Huntington Park.
"We are all citizens
of the world.
"We are all
strangers together.
"But to my Korean landlords,
this neighborhood is home.
"I have been awakened
before dawn
"by the rhythmic thud
of their pounding garlic
"into paste on the back porch.
"I've stumbled out the door
with an armful of wet laundry
"only to find
all of the clotheslines
"taken up by drying fish.
"I've also come home from work
to find the back stairs spread
"with leaves of cabbage,
curing in the hot sun.
"Even when their son was sh*t
"a half mile south of here
"there was questioning
of their sense of place.
"The landlords keep
to themselves and so do I.
I often wish that they would
invite me over for dinner."
Thanks.
[applauding]
[instrumental music]
[music continues]
[jazz music]
‐ Alright, man, you brought
some Louis Armstrong.
We gotta talk about Louis.
Uh, "Tight Like This," why did
you choose this track?
‐ I think it's by the best
driving music there is.
♪ Oh it's tight like this ♪
♪ No it ain't tight
like that either ♪
♪ I said it is tight like this ♪
♪ Let it be tight
like that then ♪
♪ Oh it's tight
like that Louis ♪
♪ Oh it's tight like this ♪
♪ Now it closes like that ♪♪
City of Gold (2015)
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