10x09 - Cursed

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10x09 - Cursed

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There's a lot of, like,
chaos here.

The activity is just
destroying my family.

Someone came here
to hurt the people here.

I feel like it's demonic.

They're a result of dark magic.

It could be some kind of
witchcraft or curses.

It is so, so bad.

I can't even imagine now

the t*rture
he's going through.

It's not safe,
it's not safe, it's not safe.

Panic, panic, panic.

My name is Amy Allan.

I'm seeing, like, blood.

The house just feels bad.

I see dead people.

This man is completely insane.

I speak to dead people.

Okay, she doesn't
like it in there.

And they speak to me.

He likes to twist that Kn*fe.

But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.

Something paranormal
is trying to k*ll them.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

Now, does he die right
there on the spot?

I know every person,
every house has secrets.

I think it's trying
to steal my soul.

It's my job to reveal them.

You ever get touched
like that again?

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

I'm as stunned
as you guys are.

...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I don't want anything to
happen to my daughter.

...or time to get out.

His goal is to k*ll you guys.

I'm out here in
Pinellas Park, Florida.

It's about 20 miles
west of Tampa.

I got a call from woman
named Minou.

Now, she sounded terrible
on the phone.

Says ever since her adult son

moved back into
the family house,

activity has been violent
and out of control.

She says if Amy and I
can't stop it,

she thinks someone's
gonna get k*lled.

Before Amy arrives,

I clear the house of
any leading information.

Photographs, dream catchers,

and other personal items
can influence her findings,

so it's important that
I cover or remove them all.

When I'm done,

the location will be ready
for tonight's walk.

This is bad.

The first thing I get
is anxiety --

massive anxiety and digestive
disorders in the living,

and then I heard jealousy.

It's not safe,
it's not safe, it's not safe.

They've got to go,
they've got to go,

they've got to go.

So, Minou, when
we spoke on the phone,

you didn't sound
really great.

Sounds like you're
going through hell here.

What's going on?

Well, the activity
is just out of control

and, I mean, just complete
and utter hell.

Aw.

I know. I'm sorry, honey.
I know.

I can only imagine.

So, what kind of things
are you guys experiencing?

We're feeling
we're being watched,

hearing voices,

shadow figures,
nightmares,

mental and physical
health declining,

and physical att*cks.

How long
have you been here?

Well, my parents
built this house in 1977

and I've lived here
on and off since then.

Do you know any history
about the house

that might help me?

There's a family friend
that d*ed here.

And the family friend
passed away in the house?

Yes, he passed away
back in the bedroom

where most of
the activity is at.

Whose room is that now?

My son, Jon Paul.

Who else lives
in the house with you?

That's my sister,
Shannon.

All right.

And that's
my son's father, Rick.
Okay.

That's me,
that's my brother,

and that's my son,
Jon Paul.
Okay.

Since my son
moved back in,

things have just been
getting gradually worse.

So you think your son
moving back in

caused all these
problems here?

No. I think it's the girl
that he brought over here.

She dabbled in the occult.

It just feels like

maybe she put
some kind of curse on him.

Okay.
Is he having experiences?

He's not been eating.

He's quit his job,

He almost quit school.

He's losing weight,
and I just feel like

his physical and mental health
are just diving down.

And you think
this has all to do

with the paranormal activity
that's going on here?

Yes, I do.

You okay?

I know.

It's just hard to see him
go through it.

Yeah, I know.

It's your baby.

- It's k*lling me.
- I know.

I feel like I'm crazy.

You're not crazy, honey.

I'm so depressed,
and it's causing
a lot of anxiety.

With all the stuff
that's going on here,

why don't you just move?

To be honest, Steve,
I feel like running away.

But it's my family home.

I'm not gonna
let them win.

This is my house.
This is where I live.

Someone is sick here.

Very, very sick.

I'm seeing this dead woman.

She has long, dark hair.

I feel despair and depression
with her.

The living absolutely feel
this depression.

It kind of gets worse
in here.

The living would be
susceptible to her energy,

and I feel like she is
wrapped around this person --

a male here.

Yeah, she's, like,
wrapped around them.

I think
there's a connection with

whoever that male is
that she's with,

which is really wrapped.

All right, Minou,
so what's going on in here?

In this room,
there's a chair,

and it moved on its own.

Okay, so what happened?

It just kind of
went back,

hit the door,
and spun around.

And you didn't see anything
that could have done that?
No.

Well, if it can make
a chair move like that,

that's pretty dangerous.

- Yeah.
- All right, anything else?

Shadow figures.

I see them all the time
walking in the living room

and outside,

and I think it's somebody
at the front door,

and I get up and open the door,
and nobody's there.

Okay, so describe
the ones you see

on the inside of the house.

Like a gray shadow.

Is it something
you can see through,

or is it something
that's kind of misty?

You can see through it,
like a shadow on a wall,

like somebody walking.
Okay.

And the ones you see outside,
is it similar?

It's darker.

You see more than one?

Sometimes it's one,

sometimes
it's one, two, three.

Is anybody else
seeing this stuff,

or are you hallucinating,
maybe?

No, my sister
sees them, too.

Okay, anything else?

As soon as you walk
into the house,

the whole entire house
is just this dark,

heavy, weighted feeling
on your shoulders.

It's a negative
kind of thing.

So being exposed to
this heavy feeling --

how does it affect you?

I get really fatigued

and very nauseated
sometimes.

There's a blond chick
who's with me now,

and she's dead.

Just anger and hate
all over her face,

and she just screamed at me,
"Get out!"

I just think
the negative energy here

does make people sick.

Oohee, oohee, oohee,
oohee, oohee.

I'm getting a head pain.

Okay, so, Minou, what's
the story with this room?

Well, this is the room
that I grew up in,

and this is where
my son sleeps now.

Okay, so what's going on?

I have a lot
of physical pain.

I get terrible migraines.

Now, do you have any kind
of medical condition

that might cause
that kind of pain?

I have fibromyalgia,

but when I'm here,
it just seems so bad

and when I leave,
it seems to be better.

Okay.
Anything else?

Yeah, I have nightmares
all the time.

Okay. What kind of nightmares
are we talking about?

I had a dream where
I was being choked,

and I woke up and
I couldn't barely breathe.

It was terrible.

I've never in my life
experienced something like that.

Who was choking you?

I don't know.

Aw, come here.
Come on.

I know
you're stressing out.

Relax. Okay?

Relax.

How's all this activity
affecting your relationship

with your son?

We've always had
a really good relationship,

and lately,
just hasn't been there.
All right.

These things
are happening to him,

and they're for real.

He's being att*cked
through all of this.

Okay.

These things are
destroying my family.

There are att*cks
coming from here.

I feel like it is
possibly the blonde.

She is jealous because
she wants to be alive again,

but she mainly does it
because she hates everybody

and she's pissed off
and she's miserable.

So I just see her
smothering a person,

trying to k*ll them.

So, Shannon, I understand
you're Minou's sister

and that you live here,
actually.

Yes.

She called us in
because of her concern

for her son, Jon.

Do you have concerns
for him, as well?

Very much so.

The way he acts
is completely different.

Okay.

Now, your sister
mentioned to me

that within the last year,

the activities
really got crazy.

Does that make sense
to you?

Yes, that's correct.

Okay.
As far as experiences go,

I'm pretty confident you
probably have had some, right?

- Many, many experiences.
- Okay.

Let's talk about
some of them.

Okay, well, I've seen, like,
different shadow figures

throughout the house,
outside and inside.

Your sister mentioned to me
about shadow figures, as well.

So when you see these
shadow figures, how
many are you seeing?

Sometimes
three, four in a row,

just walking past the TV
down the hallway.

Okay. Do they feel
threatening to you?

Yes.

I feel like it's demonic.

So, anything else?

I've been touched in some
really inappropriate ways.

Okay, honey.
You okay?

Yeah.

Hopefully we'll get
to the bottom of this

and get this fixed.

Anything else going on?

There's just a lot of
negative energy in the house.

Feel so drained,
really bad anxiety.

And when you leave here,
do you feel any better?

If I'm gone for
a couple days, yeah,

I start to feel
a little better.

But when we come back in,
it's just like, ""

It's really difficult.

It's like every day
is just one more day

that you're living
in hell.

Spending time in here
is not really good.

It feels like
overwhelming despair,

hopelessness,

depression, anxiety,

and then I feel sick,
like I'm gonna vomit.

Oooh, it's bad.

My head hurts a lot.

There are some weird
shadow things out here.

They kind of look like rats.

And they were, like, laughing

and trying to make us go away,

and I feel like that they were
put here by someone.

I know that they're destructive
to the living,

'cause these things
are not good at all.

So, Jon,
your mom called us in

'cause she's pretty concerned
that something here

is going after you.

Now, do you agree
with that?

Yeah, I kind of keep it
to myself.

It's easier to, like,
convince myself

that it's not real,
or that it's just in my head.
Okay.

Mom said to me that
the activity here

really got crazy
once you moved back in.-

She mentioned
that she thought

the girl you were seeing
that was into the occult

might have put
a curse on you guys.

Did you ever
think about that?

Yeah, I mean, it's something
I've considered.

It could be, you know,

some kind of witchcraft
or curses or something.

Have you experienced paranormal
before you moved here?

Yeah.

So, let's talk about
your experiences.

What are you
going through?

Anxiety,
you know, nightmares,

sleeplessness.

What kind of nightmares
are we talking about?

I'll be, like, asleep,
and I had my arm out,

and it was strange --

like someone, like,
tried to

almost kind of pull me
out of my body, I guess.

It's something
I deal with all the time.

Okay, all right.
So anything else?

Just voices.

How often
are you hearing this?

All the time, unless
I actively block it out.

What do you think
these voices are?

I'm not sure,
but I think they're demonic.

All right,
so anything else?

I see things,
like a mist.

It's almost like
an energy.

It's hard to explain.

You get any kind of
a vibe from it?

Yeah, but it's never
anything positive.

Any thought as to what
you think this thing

wants from you?

I feel it's already
trying to hurt people

in my family.

I'm getting
a living male saying,

"I don't want to be
involved with this.

Why are you doing this?
Why are you doing this?"

This person seems very angry,

confused, upset.

Feels like an angry teenager.

But it might be older,

so I'd say, like,
maybe 20s to 30s.

There's a lot of, like,
chaos here, mentally.

I think it has to do with
those shadow-rat creatures.

Those little rats
throughout here --

I'd say 20.

Do you have any idea
what these things are?

They're a result of
bad or dark magic,

kind of like a curse
of some kind.

Someone came here
to hurt the people here.

You know if the living
would see these things

or have any other
experiences with them?

I think that
they would see them.

They're very physical.

They would hear them laughing.

They would experience
far more anger,

depression, fatigue.

They would have
random illnesses.

Nothing good
can stay in this house.

No good energy,
not happiness --

nothing like that
can survive in this place.

Minou says a friend of
the family d*ed in the house

back in the '90s,

so I made some calls,
and she's right.

Turns out the guy was really

a good friend of
Minou's brother, Jack.

So I'm headed back to the house

to find out exactly
what happened.

Well, Jack, thanks for
sitting down with me.

I appreciate that.

Now, I understand
you were pretty close

with the guy
that d*ed in the house.

What can you tell me
about him?

His name was
Lloyd Ferris.

He moved from
upstate New York

to Florida, here,
in this area,

in the mid-'80s.

He met my mother
at an AA meeting,

and they kind of
hit it off as friends,

and he needed
a place to stay

and she had an open room,
so he moved in.

It all became like
he was family.

What kind of a man
was he?

He was kind of quiet.

He was fairly tall,
shortish gray hair.

Do you have
any photos of him?

No, he really never wanted
his picture taken.

What else
do you know about him?

He was married
and had four children.

At some point,
he became estranged

from his ex
and his children.

They didn't talk.
- Okay.

You think that had something
to do with the drinking?

I think it's
a real good possibility.

It really hurt him bad

that he didn't really
get to see his children.

Can you take me through
the day he d*ed?

It was March 31st, 1995.

Okay.

He had gone in
to take a shower

and went into the bedroom

and laid down in the bed
and passed away.

We're fairly certain that
it was a heart att*ck.

How old was he?

67.

I'm curious --
do you think Lloyd is here,

in the house?

I definitely
believe he's here.

I think he helps
try to protect the family

and the house
from whatever's going on.
Okay.

But he's not strong enough
to stop whatever it is.

Somebody dropped dead
from a heart att*ck here.

It was an older male.

Do you have any idea
how long ago this was?

This is fairly recent.

I wouldn't go
earlier than the '90s,

I don't think.

He has lots of worry
about children.

I think he's trying to talk
mostly to a male.

This male -- living male --

does not want to
even deal with any of this.

I feel like the males
are related.

He says that he keeps
trying to tell them to move,

to get out of the house.

It's not safe.

I don't know what
Amy's gonna find on her walk,

but to me,
some of the experiences

the family's having
could be easily explained,

so I've called in
a home inspector

to see if any of this
could be environmental.

The reason
I called you in

is my clients here are having
some strange experiences

and mood issues
and stuff like that.

Some of the stuff
they're talking about

they're going through
sounds like hallucinations.

I've been doing this
a long time,

and I can't blame everything
on the paranormal.

Sometimes it could be
environmental --

you know, like maybe
carbon monoxide or mold.

So can you do some
testing to see

if maybe
that's the issue?

I can do some air sampling.

I'll do one on the inside
and one on the outside,

compare the two.

Thanks, buddy.
I appreciate that.

Let me know
what you find out.

I'll get started on it.

When you work a homicide,

you have to rule out
the obvious first,

and that's exactly
what I'm doing here.

If there's
an environmental issue,

it might explain why
everyone in the house

is seeing and hearing
so many of the same things.

All right, Brad,
so how'd it go?

I did find a roof leak
in the back --

little bit of mold on it.
Okay.

I did find a spot of mold
under the air handler

in the hallway.

But other than that,

I don't see any major problems
with this home.

All right,
so it doesn't sound like

there's enough mold there
that would cause

any kind of hallucinations
or any kind of mood changes

or anything like that.

I wouldn't think so, no.

All right, so now I know
it's not environmental.

It's got to be
something else.

Those shadow-rat things

are trapping
the negative energy inside.

They're putting up blocks.
Paranormal.

No,
that negativity ain't leaving.

They'll let the negative in.

They won't let
the negative energy out, though.

Now it just spins and becomes
more and more dark.

And they are preventing
any energy

from like, you know,
spreading around

or cleansing or anything.

That's why it's circled back

and it's just circling
around this house

and turning black
and black and black.

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Here's what I got so far --

a client who believes a curse
has been placed on her home

and a family friend who
dropped dead of a heart att*ck

in one of the bedrooms.

But I'm thinking there's
got to be something else.

Searching through old records,

I come across Milton Bryan,

who used to own
Minou's property.

Turns out,
Milton's wife k*lled herself.

You know, I got to know more
about this su1c1de,

so I've reached out
to a local professor

who's looking into this for me,

and she says she's got
some information

that will definitely
help my case.

So now, Dr. Stark,

I know
one of the original owners

of my client's property's
wife committed su1c1de,

but before we even
get to that part,

what do we know about him?

Milton Bryan is kind of
a really interesting fellow.

He started off as
a blue-collar worker.

He was a butcher,

and he decided to go into
the dairy business.

He was very,
very successful.

He had, at the peak,
400 head of cattle,

1,100 acres,
which was quite good.

And that encompassed
my client's property?

That is correct.

So, obviously he was married.
When did he get married?

- Well, he has two wives.
- Okay.

The first wife is Blanche.
He's 22, she's 21.

They seemed to
kind of get along,

except that there's
no children for four years.

Do we think it had
something to do with maybe

issues with the marriage
or anything like that?

Absolutely, yeah.

Blanche had these
odd bouts of illness,

so she'd go to
her family's farm

to rest and recover.

Now, do we know anything
about these illnesses?

There is some speculation

that it might have
been depression,

or perhaps
postpartum issues.

Now, we know
she commits su1c1de.

What happened?

She has a second child
named Mavis

in January of 1924.

This child
does not do well.

By April 8th of 1924,
Mavis d*ed.

Later the same day,
she actually got

a.32 caliber p*stol,
climbed into bed,

put the p*stol to her forehead,
and pulled the trigger

and d*ed instantly.

- Wow.
- There's the article.

She was 33 years old,
and her body was discovered

by her 7-year-old
daughter, Lorraine.

I've been there
where I've had to deal with

young children
that found a parent

that committed su1c1de,

and they don't
bounce back from that.
No.

So now
we've got Milton here,

who lost a kid,
lost his wife.-

What does he do
after that?

Within seven months,
he remarries.

He marries a woman
by the name of Pansy --

Pansy Tenor.

This guy didn't
waste no time.

She was 18 years old,

and he was 34
when they married.

Okay, so Milton's remarried
at this point.

What happens next?

They actually have
two sons,

and it seems to be
a really decent marriage.

They stayed together.

He dies in 1947
of a massive heart att*ck

at 57 years of age.

Wow.

Now, I do have
his death certificate.

And he dies on
my client's property?

That's correct, yes.


The blond lady's here,
ranting and raving.

She had been brought here
by a living person

who couldn't get over her death

and now she's stuck here.

Do you have any idea
on who it was

that did that to her?

I think it was
an older man who did this.

It seemed like
she got married young,

and I think she was
kind of forced into that,

and then there was a death
very soon afterwards.

I think she had a child,
and she didn't want children.

The way she treated
that child was not good.

I do see a g*n.

I don't know
if she k*lled herself.

So she got, like, a raw deal.

She's beyond angry.

She goes on a rampage,

and then everybody
has to pay for the
situation she's in.

She says, "It was a short life,
and it sucked.

Now I'm dead,
and I'm trapped here."

I saw several horrifying things
during my walk,

but two stood out --

first, the dead woman attacking
a living person.

The dead lady
had blond hair,

very well done.

and she was
in the process of trying

to smother this kid
in the bed

by covering her mouth
and pinching her nose.

Next, I described
the rat creatures

trapping bad energy
inside the house.

They were all on
their hind legs.

I would say they were
about, like, this tall.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

Well, Amy, this is Minou.

Her story broke my heart.

She's hurting,
and I hope and pray

at the end of this,
we can bring her some hope.

This is her sister, Shannon,
who lives here

along with their brother,
Jack,

Minou's ex, Rick.

This is her son, Jon.

Now, nobody feels safe,

and they all feel that
if we can't help them,

somebody's gonna
get seriously hurt.

So now that Amy knows
who you guys are,

I'll ask her to describe
her walk for us.

The first thing that I got
was in the hallway.

This was energy off of
a living person that's here,

and I heard, "I don't want to
be involved in this.

Why are you doing this?"

And there seemed to be
a lot of mental chaos.

I felt like the individual
was really, really immature.

The emotion and
the mental state seemed like,

you know, when teenagers
are going nuts,

but I kept thinking
that this person

is older than that --
maybe in their 20s or 30s.

One of the main reasons
Minou called us in

was because of
her son, Jon,

and she's really
worried about him.

Tell Amy how he's changed.

He doesn't hardly eat,
he doesn't hardly sleep,

and he is very immature.

- How old is he?
- He's 30.

He seems like
a tortured soul to me.

He is.
It's terrible.

Where does he sleep?

He sleeps in the back bedroom
to the right.

Really?

I did get that there was
a deceased female

who has latched on to
a male in that bedroom.

Long brown hair,
pale skin, very thin.

Is it possible
that she would

want him to herself?

Yeah, she's on him --

like, literally
wrapped around him.

You need a break, honey?

I'll be okay.

All right, so what else?

This other person
that I encountered
is another woman.

This one is a blonde.

Very, very unhappy
dead person.

She feels like she never
got a chance to live

the life she wanted to live.

She wanted a career,

but instead,
she married very young.

Did not want to
be a housewife.

So I don't think that
she wanted to be a mother.

She said she d*ed young,

which makes her
even more upset.

She might have been
around 27 when she d*ed.

She d*ed unusually,
but I'm not exactly sure how.

I know
she didn't die here.

She kept saying,
"I don't belong here"

over and over.

After she d*ed,
family member brought her here

because that person just
couldn't get over her death.

Then when that person d*ed,

they moved on,
but she didn't.

She got stuck here,
and she's pissed.

It kind of sounds like
somebody

I came across
in my research.

Her name was Blanche Bryan,

and her life
was short and tragic.

She married in 1912

to a blue-collar farmer
named Milton Bryan.

So the expert I spoke to
said that

she thought that
Milton and Blanche's

relationship
was pretty rotten

because she spent
a lot of time

going back to
her parents' house,

blaming mysterious illnesses.

It could have been
depression

or some other kind of
mental illness.

We're not sure.

Now, in 1916, their daughter
Lorraine was born.

They didn't have a second kid
for almost eight years.

Her name was Mavis.

Now, the baby was sickly,
and she d*ed three months later

on April 8th, 1924.

It was too much for Blanche.

That same day,
she took a.32 revolver

and put it to her forehead
and blew her brains out.

My God.

She was only 33 years old
at the time.

Amy, you said the woman
you saw didn't die here.

Blanche d*ed at her
parents' house one county over.

Now, can this blond woman
you saw

mess with
the living people here?

Yes. I got that she affects
the living in several ways.

First, she makes people
sick to their stomachs,

so there's nausea.

She can give you
massive headaches.

Terrible headaches.

- Okay.
- Terrible, terrible headaches.

It just feels like my brains
are smashing against my skull.

She can get physical --

like just shoving people
or pushing people,

also pinching people
while they're sleeping.

You know, I didn't
want to bring it up,

but you had some
inappropriate touching.

Correct.

It's hard for me
to describe, but, like,

I would sleep,
and I would wake up

feeling as though

someone was touching me
inappropriately.

Like, after that happened,

it just, like,
kept reoccurring.

It happened like
at least four or five times.

I don't understand.
What have I done?

So, this blond lady
do anything else?

What I saw
was her messing with

somebody in the bedroom
with two beds,

and she did say she hates
the people in that room.

She was hovering over
someone who was sleeping

and trying to smother them.

I had a sketch done
of what I saw.

Geez.

My God.

My God.

My granddaughter
sleeps in that room.

You think that's your
granddaughter in that bed?

All right,
so I'm gonna get on to

the other deceased
individual that's here.

So, this is a dead male --
extremely present here.

I got that he's an older
white male with white hair.

I got that he was
either a family member

or friend of
a living male who's here.

I got that this male
d*ed from a heart att*ck.

Felt like this
happened recently.

One thing that
stood out about him

was that he's extremely
worried about his children.

When he's around,
you'd feel like

you need to get
out of the house.

And he does this
on purpose

because he's trying to send
a warning to the living

about something even more
dangerous that's here.

He's trying to tell you
to help save yourselves.

Well, I got
a pretty good idea

who she's talking about.

His name was Lloyd Ferris.
Yep.

And he was a friend of
Minou and her family

for a very long time.

The spare bedroom he slept in
is where Jon sleeps in now.

Now, he wound up living here
for about 10 years, right?

- Something like that.
- Yeah.

Yeah,
he was like one of us.

Now, in March of 1995,

he d*ed of a heart att*ck
in that room.

So I got his death
certificate here.

I feel fine
with him here.

I mean, he's trying
to protect us.

But I'd like to
see him move on.

So, it sounds like Lloyd
is trying to warn them.

Warn them
about what, though?

It's kind of weird.

So, I'm in the backyard.
I see a bunch of things.

And they looked like
really large rats.

So there's about
20 of them,

and they've formed
a perimeter around the house,

and what they do is
they attract negative energy

and trap it
inside the house.

Being surrounded by
the negative energy

can cause physical illness.

I got nausea,
again, vomiting,

diarrhea,
and feeling drained.

Well, Minou, let's talk
about you being nauseated.

Sometimes
I just get nauseated,

can't eat,

and I'm just exhausted --

just completely exhausted

for no reason.

Now, Shannon, you told me
about being drained.

Yeah. I mean, even tonight,
I'm physically just worn out.

I just want to leave.

This negative energy can also
affect people's moods

and change
their personalities.

I know I've been told
by two people

I'm crushing
their spirits...

No.

...because I'm so mean.

I don't mean to be mean.

I try so hard.

But I had Shannon tell me
I was crushing her spirit,

and then my son told me
the same thing.

Jon's personality
has changed, as well.

Yeah.

Dealing with it --
it's just k*lling me.

It's just k*lling me.

I'm tired of
living through all this.

What I'm curious about

is what these little
rat bastards look like.

I did have a sketch done.

You weren't kidding,
were you?

What's that?

Is this black, swirly stuff
the bad energy?

- Yes.
- Okay.

Jon mentioned to me
about seeing

some kind of
a swirly energy...

that was white.

İnteresting.

Now, have these things
always been here?

They were brought here
by a living person,

and I don't think this happened
too, too long ago.

This person
was into witchcraft...

My God.

...dark magic.

Well, we all know who
she's talking about.

Yep.

Well, Minou, want to tell her
about Jon's girlfriend?

She came over here,
spent the night,

and said she had seven
different personalities.

Did he want to see them?

And he said, when they
started coming out...
What?!

...he got
very, very scared,

and he thought
they were demons.

Holy...

Things, like,
started getting bad.

He called her
and asked her

if she dealt
in the occult at all,

and she told him yes.

Ohhhhhh!
What?!

She admitted it?

I, then, started
getting att*cked.

No.

Do we think she brought
these rat things here?

Yes.

Like, it is so, so bad.

That's my little baby.

I can't even imagine now

the t*rture
he's going through

with all this...going on.

So, Minou,
the other day you told me

you felt like
you were living in hell.
Yep.

And turns out
you really are.

So now we need to find out if
there's any way to fix this mess

so you guys can stay here.

For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.

It's not an easy fix,
I'll tell you that.

Okay, so the first thing
I would like to see y'all do

is to get a male medium

to move on the blond woman
and Lloyd,

somebody like Steve --

very old-school,
old-fashioned.

The reason why
this male has to be

that specific way
is more for the female...

...because she's old-school.

Once that happens,
she's gonna run out of here

'cause she does not
want to be here.

And then he can move
Lloyd on, as well,

and all he needs to be
assured of, basically,

is that y'all got his message,
and he will leave.

So that's number one.

Now, here's
what's gonna suck.

So, I would like you
to see a voodoo priest.

This girl placed a curse
on this house

and brought
these things here.

Fight fire with fire.

When you're dealing
with the darkness,

you need someone to
counteract that darkness.

He can remove this.

So, now, once the voodoo priest
comes in and does his thing,

it'll get rid of
these rat creatures

or whatever the hell
they are?

- Yes.
- Okay.

All right, so let me
ask you a question.

Do you think your son will go
see this voodoo priest?

- I don't know.
- Here's the thing.

If he won't do it,
he'd have to go away.

He could not come back,

especially after
you have the rituals done.

Well, listen,
you know your son

better than anybody else.

What's the story?

Do you think you're gonna
be able to convince him

to get this done
and be part of it?

I'm gonna have to.
I don't have a choice.

You got to try.
You can't live like this.

No, I can't.

This is something
that's fixable.

This has to be fixed.

He has to be fixed.

I'm gonna be
on his ass about it.

Either he goes,
or I'm gonna have to go.

It's gonna be
one or the other,

'cause I'm not gonna
live like this anymore.

I'm not gonna do it.

I really hope Minou
convinces Jon

to see a voodoo priest.

If he does, the rat creatures
and negative energy will leave.

And with the help of a medium,

the dead blonde
and their friend Lloyd

can be moved on, as well,

and this family can find
the peace it's been looking for.
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