04x11 - Presidential Secrets

Episode transcripts for the TV show "The Curse of Oak Island". Aired: January 5, 2014 to present.*
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Follows brothers Marty and Rick as they search for the infamous treasure on Oak Island.
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04x11 - Presidential Secrets

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Tonight on
The Curse of Oak Island...


Everything's going in
that dumpster.

There's something that comes
from below, we'll find it.

I think there's
something in the airlift.

Look at that. That's a bone!

Dan believes that there is
a body down there.


Back on the hunt, in -X.

We know that FDR was interested

in the treasure hunt
here on Oak Island.

I was able to find the
president's personal file.

Guess what I found in
that folder?

Whoa... that's remarkable.

There is an island
in the North Atlantic,


where people have been looking
for an incredible treasure


for more than years.

So far, they have found bits
of gold chain...


a stone slab with strange
symbols carved into it...


even a th Century
Spanish coin.


To date, six men have d*ed
trying to solve the mystery.


And, according to legend,

one more will have to die,

before the treasure
can be found.


How much water you got?

You're at two foot, nine inches.

Okay.

Down just a bit more.

It is the beginning of another

momentous day on Oak Island...

I think that's good.

As Rick Lagina,

along with other members
of the Oak Island team,


begin pumping thousands of
cubic feet of air into


borehole -X in an effort to
flush what they hope will be


important artifacts up to
the surface.


Everything's going in
that dumpster.

There's something that comes
from below, we'll find it.

Well, that's for sure.

The airlift works by inserting

a pipe some feet to
the bottom of -X.


Then a large volume of
compressed air is pumped


down to force water,

sediment, and any objects
back up through


the pipe to the surface.

The sediment,

otherwise known as "spoils", is
then deposited into a container


and searched for potentially
important artifacts.


Airlifting -X is
the right thing to do.

I think the massive size of this

equipment and the air
we're gonna put to it,


we're gonna bring up
anything that's in that


chamber that's worth seeing.

I really believe that.

Let's cr*ck some more air.

Try giving it just
a little bit more.

That's good!
You're sucking dirt now.

How'd you like to have some
of this equipment

when you and I was working?

I wouldn't know what to do
with it all.

First drilled by
Oak Island treasure-hunter,


Dan Blankenship in
the early s,


-X was intended
to be something of a


"back door" into the so-called
Money Pit.


Although Dan hit a
booby-trapped flood tunnel


at a depth of feet,

he kept drilling and digging,

ultimately making -X the
deepest borehole on the island,


at a staggering depth of
feet.


How's the water in the hole?

The water line is good.

You know Dan, I've been
mesmerized by -X since I

first saw those photographs.

I wonder if in half an hour
we'll actually hold in our

hands what you saw long ago;
That's our hope.

Well... mine, too.

Mine too. Yup.

When Dan put a camera down -X,

he discovered what he maintains
is evidence of human activity,


including wooden posts,
a large chest,


antique tools

and possibly human remains.

I... I'm on record saying
there's a corpse down there.

- Right.
- Just watch out for bones.

Well, hopefully today we'll
get some answers.

Unfortunately, in the s,

Dan ran out of money
to explore -X,


until partnering with
the Laginas ten years ago.


And it has taken him until
now to try and prove that


what he first discovered was
not merely the product of his


wishful imagination.

What's all this about?

This came out of -X.

That came out of -X.

That came out of -X,
and that came out of -X.

What more do you want, Marty?

Chain, wire, and that
low carbon steel.

It all tested out as
being made prior to .

All of that came from
the bottom of the damn hole!

All of those things?

All of it came from
the bottom of the hole.

I have a long history with -X.
I've always said,

in order to put,
at my brother calls,


an "X" through -X,
we need to find something.


Last year, Rick, Marty

and the team arranged
for professional diver,


John Chatterton,
to successfully reach


the bottom of borehole -X.

Due to dense layers of clay
and sediment,


visibility in the underground
cavern was virtually zero.


What is that, John?

Even more disappointing
was the report John Chatterton


issued after making
the harrowing dive.


I had a rock that
I would estimate was

inches to inches.

I picked it up, I moved it,
it was... it was heavy.

To me, that was what gave you
the sonar signal of the box.

Because the data retrieved

from the dive conflicted
with other data,


Rick, Marty and the team are
hoping that today's efforts


to airlift -X will
give them a reason


to continue investing both time
and money at this site.


Right now, everything seems to
be working well.

This scares the out
of me, if you know what I mean.

You're afraid the cavity
might collapse, or...?

I'm afraid of...

I'm afraid that area between
and may collapse.

You remember, I told you,
there's a fissure around ?

Right.

During one of his dives
into -X in the s...


Dan Blankenship noticed
a large and potentially


dangerous fissure in
the anhydrite bedrock,


starting at a depth of
approximately feet.


If the enormous pressure caused

by the airlift process
triggers a collapse,


the result would
be catastrophic,


as far as any further ability
to explore -X is concerned.


Watch the hose, there!

Just see if you can
help Michel out

with that other pump, there.

Suddenly,

something appears to have caused

the airlift to stop working.

Shut her down.

Okay, you turn yours off.

I think there's something
in the airlift...

it's thumping.

Let's lift it up, check
if we got a clog.

Let's try that.

You only gotta come up or
feet.

I don't know why they pulled up.

Probably what I had feared,
that that damn roof caved in.

If you feel the hose,
it's pounding.

It's like there's something
caught in it.

- We got a plug in there.
- Yeah.

Is it possible that
a large object


has clogged the airlift?

If so, what could it be?

A large rock?

Or perhaps one of the objects
Dan Blankenship claims he saw


some years ago?

So, where are we,
what's your plan here?

So, right now our water
flow wasn't there,

so we think we had a plug
up inside.

We're going to try it again.

I think the plug is cleared
out of the airlift.

So, we'll give it another
kick and see what happens.

All right.

Leave it open.

That's perfect.

All right, we're seeing
some activity here.

Hear the dirt?

There it is.

Working well, now.

With the adjustment having been

made by the team from
Irving Equipment Ltd.,


the airlift process resumes.

We just want to get our
water flowing properly here,

and once we get that going,

we want to lift for maybe
another , minutes,

and then we'll
drain that out and see

what's in there for sediment.

It's going to be interesting.

- It's hard to say.
- Hope we find something.

I hope so, too.

As we move forward with

the airlift in -X,
it's exciting.


We've worked out the kinks in
the system and now the airlift

should be able to proceed
uninterrupted.

The whole idea, of course,

is to get the material
off the floor in -X.


And I think, at this point,
we'll be successful.


Let's shut down and we'll
drain that out.

Close it.

Whatever materials are on
the bottom of -X should


now be in that dumpster.

After draining
the water from the inside


of the metal container,

the Oak Island team can
now begin their inspection


of the -X spoils.

I don't know what to
say about it;

- I was expecting a lot more.
- Yeah.

Rick, Charles and
Jack will first


empty the contents
of the container


into the . -ton
front-end loader.


From there, the spoils can be
deposited at a neutral location


to be meticulously
searched for artifacts,


or potentially valuable clues.

Jack! Right here.

Jack, that looks interesting.

I'll bag it.

This... I think this is...
I don't know what that is.

It's not steel.

Jack, you got another bag?

Several pieces came up
out of the hole.


Incredibly blackened,
I don't think it's wood,


I have no idea what it is.

Rick! Come here!

Look at that.

That's a bone.

A bone?
Found in the mud and sediment


that Rick and the team just
pumped out of borehole -X?


Can kind of still feel
the marrow in there...

Jack, come here!
You got a baggie, Jack?

We got a bone here.
You gotta come see it.

- All right.
- You got a baggie?

Could Charles Barkhouse have

just found evidence
of human remains?


Whoa!

Perhaps validating what
Dan Blankenship claims he saw


four decades ago?

It's black.

Charles found a bone.
At that point,


is it human or animal?

Human or animal?
If it's a human bone,

wow, what does this mean?

That needs to go to a forensic
pathologist.

Exactly.

We're gonna, pretty much have
to sift through here.

- Absolutely.
- Yeah.

It's gotta go through a
fine-tooth comb, no question.

And get every bone
we find tested.

Everything. Every wood fragment.

If any of
them turn up to be human,

- that will be big.
- That would be big.

It will prove that there was
a body down there.

You're right.
We bag and tag everything.

But, let's get this cleared
out for now.

- Well, that's our plan, then.
- That's our plan.

Jack's gonna be in charge.
He'll build a screen,


put the sediment on a little
bit at a time,

wash the material
and then visually inspect it.

It's gonna be very tedious,
but Jack's up to the task


and he's excited about doing it.

After spending
the last several days


collecting and sifting
through the spoils


from the bottom of -X...

- Ready?
- Is the hose powered on, still?

Yep.

Jack Begley along with
his stepfather, Craig Tester,

are nearly finished searching
them for valuable artifacts.

Alright, this is the
last load of -X.

- Hopefully there's a...
- A coin?

A coin in here, yeah.

We have this diamond mesh
trough that we pour


the spoils out onto,

and then spray 'em
down with a hose


to get the clay off quicker,

and hopefully reveal as much
man-made stuff as we can.

I'll get this out of the way.
I do about half,

and I just kind of let... yeah.

b*at it on the side
a little bit.

That's probably good.

There's a chunk of wood.

Did you find anything this big
before?

No. Here, let me clean that off.

Now, is this the dimension
that was in Dan's films?

It's so hard to tell,

because there's no good,
you know,

focus on, or how
far away it was.

You can definitely see it's
cut here...

But it doesn't look like
a circular saw.

No, by no means. No, this is...

Older, then.

- Hopefully.
- Yeah.

This wood looks like some of
the wood that I saw

on Dan Blankenship's film

back when he
originally went down in -X.

It looks really old,

and you can see
the handsaw marks on it.

I think it's some great
information.

Look at this. Black wood
with that-that tar stuff.

- That tar stuff?
- Yeah...

I mean, does this look
like pitch to you?

Could be.

I know they used to use
pitch blend as a sealant on

ships and other places.

Original people here,
because they came in ships,

they would have had access
to it.

The use of pitch,
also known as resin,


dates as far back
as the third millennium BC,


to ancient Egypt,

where it served as caulking
between the wooden deck planks


of sailing vessels.

It was later used as a sealant
for waterproofing


wooden chests.

- That same material.
- Yeah.

- Maybe the same material.
- I think it's the same.

Based upon what

Craig and I found in the -X
spoils, it's encouraging.

Not only is it stuck onto rocks
and other things,

- but onto that wood.
- Onto that wood, which is...

Because we could
date that, yeah.

Yep.

There's several items

that seem that they could
be from original people,


and we're gonna have to show
this stuff to Dan Blankenship


and to the rest of the group,
'cause there's a lot of stuff


in here that could prove whether
or not -X is worthwhile.

- We got a bunch of bags full.
- Yep, definitely.

Think this'll do it.

Okay, well let's take a few

of the more interesting things
and show 'em to the guys.

Sounds good.

The agenda is what we've
done at -X...


and, everyone knows
that we tried to airlift.

After nearly a week
of sifting through


the hundreds of pounds
of sediment


that the airlift brought up
from the bottom of borehole


the Oak Island team has
gathered in the w*r Room to


assess their most
interesting finds.


I mean, as the process
was going on,

we could hear the material
rattling through that pipe,

and we shoveled it out.

Jack, I don't know, you've
gone through it.

You and Craig have gone
through it.

What'd you come up with?

Um...

pieces of wood.

Would these have been anything
that you dropped into the hole?

Hell, no, because this is
deteriorated so much.

That's older than I am.

'Cause, I had wondered if
this is possibly original.

That's old!
There's no question about that.

But in the same token,

that's the first man-made wood
that I've seen come out of -X.

And you can see the cuts, too!

There's no question that
was cut with a handsaw.

But you know that you
didn't put or use any

wood like that around -X?

I know I didn't!

I wouldn't have a saw
that would make that cut.

Well, that's not... that's not
all we found, though.

We also found wood with some
sort of black substance.

I found it on a couple different
items that were brought up.

Could the original people
have used this for

some purpose in -X?
I don't know.

Did you use anything like that
when you were working in -X?

Hell, no.

No, I know that's
not from mine...

- No. Jack, we drilled.
- Why are we throwing in?

Dan was sitting right there
and he said,

"we didn't put these in there."

He couldn't think of anything
he would have put in.


I took him to mean
the entire hole.


Let me see that.

In other words, nothing like
that could have


fallen in there, even.

- Okay, let's get it dated.
- Absolutely.

We have to do that.

Yeah, for sure.

Without a question,

this is not something that
was dropped in the hole by...

- Us.
- Well, then that's great news.

I am very satisfied with
what we did in -X.


We've got a bunch of
things to run tests on,

and if they come back,
you know, as an "a-ha!" moment,

then yeah, then -X is right
back on the list.


Okay, so there's not quite

an "X" in -X,
that's what we're saying here.

Right.

- You agree to that?
- I'll agree to that.

- Not quite.
- Okay.

All right.

One day after
the team's decision to maintain


their search operation
at borehole -X,


Rick, Marty and the team
are about to begin another


major operation at Smith's Cove.

They are hoping to discover one
or more of the box drains,


which are believed to fill
the booby-trapped flood tunnels


in the Money Pit
with ocean water.


If successful,
they might be able


to turn off the water
before they begin digging


their third major
exploration shaft in the area.


Okay guys, here's the guy who's
going to be

in charge of the layout of
the bladder,

- Jeremy.
- Morning!

- He's our boss this morning.
- Okay.

All right, what's gonna happen
here is we're going to go out

and survey the water
just to make sure

there's no shar-sharp
objects or stuff.

Anything that's going
to interfere...

I thought you were going
to say sharks.

I did, too.

But, then we're going to roll
out our first dam,

and we'll fill it up, so we're
gonna get fairly wet.

So not only is this a practical
application of your product,

but... history in the making.

- Sounds great.
- Okay. Let's do this!

It was at Smith's Cove in ,

that treasure-hunters
from the Truro Company


reportedly uncovered five

intricately constructed
stone box drains,


which seemed to converge
into a single tunnel.


The drains were covered
by layers


of coconut fiber and eelgrass,

which acted as a filter
to keep out sand and debris.


It was this system

that was believed to be
feeding ocean water


into the booby-trapped
flood tunnels that had


thwarted efforts to dig
in the Oak Island Money Pit.


The temporary cofferdam
will be composed


of four -foot inflatable
bladder sections,


which will be connected to form
an arc around Smith's Cove.


Once the cofferdam is
installed, Rick, Marty,


Craig and the team will be able

to pump water out of
the enclosed area,


in order to do a safe and
thorough search for any


portions of the original
box drains


that may still be intact.

So, the middle of that would
correspond pretty much

to where we want the main
excavation.

Around this here. Okay.

Dan Henskee located
the area of interest,


and Dan believes, and I believe
in Dan, that there

is a small undisturbed
section of the box drains,

or the booby-trap system,

or the drain system,
however you want to define it.

I think it still exists.

So, we'll start with the
-footer right here,

work our way down to the bank,

and we'll get to Marty
and the excavator situated just

over here so that he can
swing them out as we need them.

So, I'll pick up this first one
and go plunk it in the water.

- Yes.
- Okay.

I think the Smith's
Cove work is every bit


as exciting
as the Money Pit work.


And, the Smith's Cove work,

deals with the original story.

Where do you want it?

Right there, we'll float it
around.

We just gotta turn it around.

Whoa!

That could've hurt!

Are there really box
drains in Smith's Cove?


We know there's coconut fiber.
Dated very early.

But there are no photographs
of the box drains.


So, if we find a box drain,

it's surely historically
significant.


And for that to happen, for us,
at this time frame,


it's very important.

Watch yourselves.

We're already half-way done.
Or almost.

Okay, that's good for now, guys.

Let's get one person on the
other side of this tube here.

Just gonna fold it back.

Look, it's unrolling itself.

I'm very anxious,
and very hopeful about the work


we're about
to conduct in Smith's Cove.

Answers, I think,

are waiting for us
behind that cofferdam.


If that drain system is still
there, it proves,


or goes a long way to prove,
that Oak Island is real,


to the most hardened skeptic.

The pumps are working
and water's coming in.

We've already got a little bit
of growth in the dam down here.

This one won't take that long

to fill, because it's all on
the slope, right?

Using a pump, each section

of the bladder will be inflated

with , gallons
of seawater,


ultimately forming an
-foot high barrier.


It's probably almost full
by now.

Yeah.

I guess we'll know once
and for all if the flood tunnels

or box drains are really here.

Yeah. That could be before
the end of this week.

- Yeah, could be.
- We're due for a success.

No! It burst!

- We got a big leak.
- Whoa!

You're losing water!

It's pouring out over there!

We got a rupture!

That is not good.

Why would that happen?

At Smith's Cove,

the water-filled cofferdam
that Rick, Marty and the team


are installing has inexplicably
split wide open.


What happened, do you know?

She ruptured.

It's a gaping hole like that!

The sudden failure
of the cofferdam,


which is made of highly durable,

layered polypropylene plastic,

deals a devastating blow to
contractor, Jeremy Frizzell.


In fact, after witnessing
more than


successful prior installations,

he has never seen
anything like it before.


- You think it was... damaged?
- It's stretched.

Yeah, you can feel that.

- It's stretched.
- Yeah, you can feel...

It's unusual. Must have been...

I don't know what it...
It's hard to say...

She blew out with
considerable force.

Yeah, she did.

I've never, ever, seen that
before.

There have been multiple,

multiple equipment
failures on this island,

things that just should
not go wrong, go wrong.

Over the past two centuries,

treasure hunters on Oak
Island have been plagued by


countless equipment failures
and hundreds of bizarre,


sometimes fatal,
freak accidents.


Such was the case
on March th, ,


when a pulley system at the
Money Pit suddenly broke loose,


causing a worker named Maynard
Kaiser to fall more than


feet to his death.

Shortly afterwards,

rumors of a deadly curse
began to circulate,


including one which states
that seven men must die in


active pursuit of the treasure
before the Oak Island mystery


can be solved.

It could be weeks before
I get a replacement.

We'll get her done.

You may be not used to this,
but we're used to it.

- Yeah.
- Yeah, I'm definitely

not used to it, so...

- We'll keep moving forward.
- Okay.

Although this latest
setback will cost.


Rick, Marty and the team both
in time and money,


they are committed
to making this year


the most successful one yet,

as far as their efforts to
solve the mystery


are concerned.

There's lots of what ifs
and who knows


going on at this point,

but, we are a
community of people,

committed to one
single endeavor,

and that is to solve
the Oak Island mystery.

We will lock arms
and get that done.

So, I think everyone knows...

Doug, and Paul, of course.

The next day,

as the team awaits news
concerning their prospects


of replacing the ruptured
cofferdam,


Rick Lagina has invited
researchers Doug Crowell


and Paul Troutman to
the w*r Room.


Paul is the son
of James Troutman,


who worked on the island
for Robert Dunfield in .


That's strange, look at
these rocks right here,

look at the heat coming
off these rocks.

That is incredible.

Like his father,

he is also committed to helping
solve the Oak Island mystery.


Paul, you've done some
interesting work,

so I'll let you dive right in,
and let's see what you've got.


Well thank you, Rick. I've found
some very interesting material.

Through some certain
circumstances,

I actually found a letter
that actually was for FDR,

from, Duncan Harris
was his name.

He was a personal friend
of the Roosevelt's.

Yep,

and he apparently was
the point man for FDR,

on Oak Island, and a
secretary for him.

Of the hundreds of people over

the past two centuries who have

searched for treasure
on Oak Island,


one of the most intriguing
is none other than.


U.S. President,
Franklin Delano Roosevelt.


As a young man, FDR was
a member of


the Old Gold Salvage and
Wrecking Company that launched


a major search operation
on the island in ,


under the leadership
of Captain Henry L. Bowdoin.


Although Roosevelt later went on

to become
President of the United States,

he never lost his interest

in the search
for treasure on Oak Island.


I went through the archives
and I actually pulled his folder

from the president's
personal file.

And guess what I found in
that folder.

Lots of Oak Island information
and letters.

There's a letter from
Gilbert Hedden in there.

That's a picture of Bowdoin,
and a salvage operation.

Now this one will be of personal
interest to you, Charles.

This actually confirms that FDR

was a masonic member, actually.

Yes, so was Erwin Hamilton,
so was Gilbert Hedden.

The list goes on and on.

This is a folder called
"Knights Templar,"

and the masonic
people were actually writing

to him as "his excellency."

There are many who
believe that the mysterious


order of warrior monks known
as the Knights Templar


took possession of priceless
religious objects


during the Crusades
and hid them away,


perhaps on Oak Island,

sometime around the th
century.


It is also believed that,
in recent years,


the society known as
Freemasons continue to maintain


many of the Templar traditions
and sacred responsibilities.


Could Paul Troutman be
on the verge


of a major discovery linking
the Oak Island treasure


to the nd President
of the United States?


So, this whole archive is
filled with letters,

photographs...

You ran across a treasure trove
of documents, in its own right.

I did. There is a lot
of material

to look through, which I'd love
to show you.

Would you be interested

in joining me in going
to the archives?

- No.
- I'm in.

- Of course, we would!
- Okay, okay.

I figured you might be.

FDR's involvement is well
documented

on Oak Island, his belief in it,
even in his latter years.

There's probably documents
in the library.


Is it a place that I would
like to go?

I'm sure we all would like
to go.

This is an information hunt

every bit as much as
a treasure hunt.

- You've always said that, Rick.
- I've always said that.

Let's go,
and let's get this done.

You'll not get a "no"
from any of us.

- Let's go.
- Let's do it.

NToday, it really is,

like I've always said,
an information hunt.

While awaiting the arrival

of the new cofferdam system
at Smith's Cove,


Rick Lagina and his nephew
Alex have traveled nearly


miles,

on their way to join
researcher Paul Troutman at


the FDR presidential
library in Hyde Park, New York.


I don't think people,

possibly no one has ever
gone there before us,

looking for Oak Island
research in the museum.

It would be interesting to see,
you know,

who FDR was communicating
with about Oak Island,

and maybe other subjects
as well.

That would be cool.

Any more evidence is great
that you know you can count on,

as you know, there's
thousands of theories.

- No shortage of theories.
- No shortage of theories.

So, you can start plugging
in to stuff,

the info that you trust,

and eliminating some of those
theories, and I guess

you can make progress that way.

The hope is, you know,

we'll find some sort of
documents,

or, and/or pictures that will
help us in the search.

As the nd President
of the United States,


Franklin Delano Roosevelt was

elected to an unprecedented
four terms in office,


serving from until
his death in .


An avid collector and
historian in his own right,


Roosevelt strongly
believed that the records


he had amassed over his life,

both as a private citizen
and as a public official,


belonged to the American people.

It was in this spirit that he
donated nearly acres


of his family's property
on the Hudson River


so that the first presidential
library could be built there.


The FDR library
houses approximately


million documents
pertaining to everything


from Roosevelt's personal

correspondence with the
public...


to private letters and
records from his work


as a New York attorney.

Paul Troutman has done very
credible preliminary research

and has indicated

that there may be some answers
at the FDR museum and,


thus the need to go there
and help with that undertaking.


Let me get the door for ya.

I love the information hunt.

It's-it's every bit as important

as digging and drilling,
in my opinion.


- Hello!
- Hi.

Welcome to the FDR Presidential
Library and Museum.

Thank you, appreciate that.

- Hi. Alex.
- Hey, Alex.

My name's Cliff Laube, I'm
the public affairs officer here

at the FDR Presidential Library.

Perhaps you can clue us in,

we're looking for an associate
of ours,

a researcher by the name
of Paul Troutman?

Yeah, right,
he's in our research room,

- I can take you there now.
- Perfect.

It's a beautiful,
beautiful building.

I was thoroughly impressed by

the FDR complex, if you will.

It housed not only
the FDR Museum,


not only the-the research
facility,


but the original home,
the original residence.


And, what it spoke to me was,
what other knowledge,


what other information will
be garnered from this trip?


Will we glean some nugget
of information


about his involvement
with Oak Island?

- Right this way.
- Thank you, Cliff.

Paul.

- Hey, Rick.
- Good to see ya.

- How are ya?
- Thanks for coming.

Thank you.

Researcher, Paul Troutman,

has spent the last several
days scouring the library


for any new information

that might explain
what drove FDR,


an acknowledged member
of the Freemasons,


to devote so much of his life

to the search for treasure
on Oak Island.


Of all the persons

and personalities that were
involved in Oak Island,

surely FDR is probably
the premier persona,

if you will, that became
engaged in that process, so...

He's a central figure, no doubt.

For me it's the "why" of
FDR's involvement.

What made him commit
to this endeavor?

What kept him fascinated
by the Oak Island story?

We need to get to the bottom
of it.

So, the reason why I pulled
these boxes, specifically,

is because these are his
personal files.

If there's any reference
or lead,

I would think they would be in
his personal letter collection.

There's a lot of information
here.

million pages,
and out of all those million,

they've only scanned %.

- Really?
- So,

there's quite
a few things to find.

So, Alex, what do you think?

Obviously, there's a lot of
stuff to go through here yet.

I mean, looks like we've
got our work cut out for us.

What do you say we get to it?

On those computers over there,

you can access the database.

So that may be worth a look,
too.

- Yeah.
- You wanna take over here?

- Yeah.
- Okay.

While visiting
the presidential library


of Franklin Delano Roosevelt
in Hyde Park, New York,


Rick Lagina, his nephew Alex,
and researcher Paul Troutman,


are searching for information
that could explain just


why America's nd
President remained


interested in the search for
treasure on Oak Island


throughout his adult life.

There were million
sheaths of documents there.


Most of which have not
yet been digitized,


so it's-it's a difficult
research agenda.

Just to give you a sense of
what this collection is,

it's called a president's
secretary's file,

and these are the documents that
were so secret,

personal or confidential
that they were

kept in FDR's secretary's office

rather than sent down to the
White House filing room.

Interesting. Very interesting.

- Yeah.
- I was hoping to find

something from around the time

when we know he made a
trip to Oak Island.

You know, between looking
through the archives here,


trying to
track down the -foot stone,


and even just sifting
through the spoils piles...


Okay, why don't we set you up
at one of the tables over here?

Sure.

We're not going to find
what we're looking for quickly.

It's going to take a lot
of work.


- Take a look.
- Great, thanks.

Going through the documents,

it's a very tedious process,

and my hat's off to every
researcher anywhere,


researching anything.

You have to comb through volumes
of information

to get one little treasure.

All right, let me see what
I've got here.

I was able to find
this reference in the database:

It was called "Vertical Folder.
Oak Island, Nova Scotia."

But, I was able to find
some photographs

and some other documentation,
which we'll see here.

Okay, this letter right here,

it actually does mention
Oak Island in it.

There's a man named
Richard Perkins,

from Inglewood, California,

who writes to the President
to confirm

that there was an actual
expedition,

and right here,
the secretary, M.A. LeHand,

is confirming that this was

and that there might have
been more than one expedition.

At least two.

"It is true that the president
visited

"in search for this often-sought
treasure about .

"There have been two
other expeditions, also,

"but the President understands

the treasure has never been
found."

Wow! That's my
first understanding

of that, I've never
heard of that.

That is kind of amazing.

The only one I had heard about
was .

And so, these, you know,
this is kinda

the first anybody is really
seeing these.

Although Franklin
Delano Roosevelt


did help finance,
and also took part in


the search for treasure
on Oak Island in ,


his family's involvement

with the mystery goes back
much further.


In , Warren Delano,
FDR's grandfather,


had been an adventurous
entrepreneur


whose investments in goods such
as tea and the opium trade


with China made his family among

the wealthiest in the world.

That year, his interest turned
to treasure hunting,


and Delano became one of
several investors


in the Truro Company,

the same organization
that not only discovered


the box drains at Smith's
Cove in ,


but also small bits
of gold chain


while drilling in the Money Pit.

I've always been curious
of the why,

the why of the whole
Oak Island story,

but in particular, why did FDR
choose to engage in it,

why was he so enthralled
of the Oak Island story?

Well, I might have the answer
to that in the next folder.

- Right here?
- Yeah, great.

- Absolutely.
- Scoot in here, Alex.

This right here, this is
a biographer

named Joseph P. Lash.

He wrote a book, two books,
on FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt.

One of the interviews is
with Duncan Harris.

The one that we-we found
the Oak Island material on.

He went to Harvard,
as well as FDR.

It says, "Franklin and I"

went after the Oak Island
treasure together."

He went to Oak Island together,
with FDR.

So, there is a distinct
possibility

that he's actually
in the famous photograph.

Now, of course, here is FDR.

I'm not sure who Duncan
Harris is,

but apparently, he's in
this photograph.

Either on top or on bottom,

but I think he'd be in
the front here,

considering how close of
a friend he was.

And in this statement,
he actually says,

"It all started off for us,

"on the treasure hunting
business,

Franklin..." which is F,
"always interested in that.

"He thought they were the lost
jewels of Louis the th

and Marie Antoinette."

So, these were
the lost crown jewels of France.

So, he thought it was Louis
the th?

That's remarkable!
Well, there's my "why" of it.

Marie Antoinette?

The crown jewels of France?

Of all the various theories,
perhaps none is as audacious,


or compelling, as the one
suggesting that precious jewels


could be buried on Oak Island.

Or the claim that there isn't
only one treasure hidden there,


but several.

And that one of the guardians
of that information


might well have been one
of America's most popular,


and powerful, Presidents.

Next time on
The Curse of Oak Island...


They're saying that
the Marie Antoinette jewels

were buried in Canada.

There's more than
just an interesting treasure.


FDR found answers.

I think we're into
something, Rick!

If there's a box drain,
it leads to the flood tunnel.


It's proof that
the original story is true.


Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait!
Rick, look at this.

That doesn't look natural to me.

If this is the shaft
they found the gold,

I think we should dig
right here.


X marks the spot.
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