13x09 - Shadowed Evil

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13x09 - Shadowed Evil

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There is a little girl here,

and I was told,
"don't be fooled by her."

she wants the child.

It's k*lling me.

I see you're holding
everything in.

It's bad, and the energy
is very chaotic.

He was blown 15 feet
and k*lled instantly.

I'm not sure where I stand
on that situation.

You're believing about
the dead people,

but the thing
up in the mountain here

you're too up in the air about?

So what happens
when she takes them?

They disappear.

I'm hearing a devil's triangle.

My name is amy allan.

I see dead people.

I think he might've
been a stalker.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

He will k*ll you.
He has k*lled people.

But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.

They're being possessed.

I rely on my partner.

I'm steve dischiavi.

I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective.

How many people d*ed here
over the years?

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...Until the very end...

This sketch is like a nightmare.

...When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I never thought
that the biggest problem was me.

...Or time to get out.

He could, more than likely,
k*ll you.

so, I'm out here in the small
town of new philadelphia, ohio.

It's about a half hour
south of kent.

I got a call
from a newlywed named holly.

Now, this poor lady sounded bad.

These are supposed to be
the best days of her life,

but it's hell in there,
and she says if we can't help,

her new family
ain't gonna make it.

there's some crazy ****
going on out here.

Like, it's weird here.

Feel sick, and...

I don't know what's going on.

I don't like this, and it hurts.

So, holly,
when we spoke on the phone,

you sounded pretty upset
and angry, as a matter of fact,

what the hell's going on
in this house?

Well, I feel like
there's something evil here

that is attacking my family

and trying to tear apart
my marriage.

Alright, so let's start with
the basics.

It's you, your new husband, right?
Yes.

Who else is living in the house?

Well, my son dryden.
He's 3.

My husband, mike.

And this is my son, cyrelle.
He's 7.

He's on the autism spectrum,

and he can't verbalize
what he's seeing himself.

This poor kid can be
going through hell,

and you wouldn't know, really.

Right, he can't.

There's no way for him
to tell me.

Now, have you tried anything

to try to fight
what's going on here?

Yes, there were two mediums
that came here.

They helped bless my home.
However, that didn't work.

After they left,
it kind of got worse.

Do me a favor.
Give me a list of what you guys

were experiencing in the house.

Creepy sounds.

Okay.

We feel like
we're being watched.

It's become more violent,
and I've had mood changes.

These mood changes --
so what happens.

It comes on really fast.

I can be in a really great mood

and then my whole entire energy
just kind of changes.

I'm pissed.
And usually it's at my husband.

I'm not aware
of what I'm saying.

I'm not aware of what I'm doing.

I guess I've told him I don't
want to be his wife anymore,

that I can't stand him.

It's not for nothing,
but your poor husband

having to deal with that,

it's got to be
tough on him, too.

I know that
he's at his breaking point.

He hasn't left yet.

No. Surprisingly.

Now, let me ask you a question.

With all the stuff
that's going on,

how are you dealing with it?

Never mind everybody else.

I'm afraid my marriage
is going to fail.

- Okay.
- And the stress...

It's k*lling me.

I see you're holding
everything in.

okay.

It's alright.
We here now, right?

I'm usually
a really strong person.

You can only take so much.

I know there's quite a few
people down there.

Dead people.

They're hiding.

Why are y'all hiding?

What's going on?

I mean, there's at least
10 people

I'm getting all --
men and women and children.

They're being quiet.
They think I'm evil.

Like, something has happened
to them to make them afraid of,

I guess, people like me.

- Meaning?
- Like, mediums.

Something bad really,
really freaked them out.

Okay, holly,
so what's going on down here?

I am not comfortable
down here at all.

- You seem a little agitated.
- Yes.

You constantly feel like
you're being watched here.

You feel like somebody's
always here with you.

Are you getting a feeling of
being watched right now? Yes.

Where's that feeling
coming from?

Specifically that one a lot.

Okay, so this room here?

Okay, stay right here.

yeah, it's kind of creepy.

I mean, anything else?
- I hear voices and noises.

Okay, so let's talk about
the noises.

What are you hearing?
- Like, footsteps.

Seem like an adult to you?
- Yeah, it's pretty heavy.

Okay, so let's talk
about the voices now.

What do those sound like?

They sound like a male.
They're very deep.

I've been told upstairs
in our room before to get out.

Could it be a tv is on

and you're hearing talking
on the tv?

No, usually,
we don't have the tv on.

Okay, so anything else?

We have seen shadow figures
through the house.

What size are these
shadow figures?

One is very large.

It can block out
a whole doorway.

And then the other one
is slightly smaller.

What do you think it is?

It's like they have negative
intentions or they're trying to

make me feel uncomfortable.
- Okay.

The dead come in here often.

I see them sinking
into the walls.

The living, I think,
would hear them talking.

Mainly the men.

they would hear walking.
So, I mean,

I'm sure they feel
uncomfortable,

living people coming down here.

They might see, you know,
shadow figures and whatnot.

This is bad.

Okay, so, what's going on there?

The kids have wakened
with random marks on their body.

Okay, so what does it look like?

I have some pictures.

these look like chicken pox.

You get them checked
out by the doctor? Yeah.

Alright, so what'd
the doctor say?

He has no idea what happened.

I can't tell what this could be,
but, obviously,

your older son can't tell us
what's going on, really.

Right.

I mean, I don't know
if it's paranormal or not,

but it's definitely something
that I'd be concerned about...

- Right.
- ...One way or the other.

I mean, has anything like this
ever happened to you?

Yes, I actually
have been scratched

while I was in the shower.

And the water wasn't
extremely hot

or anything like that, right?
- No.

Alright, so has anything else
physical happened to you

in the house?

I had...

Something in my room happen,
where I was laying in bed.

I just felt this hand come all
the way up the side of my body.

- Male or female?
- Male.

Well, not for nothing,

it sounds like you're
getting assaulted. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, if I could
physically see somebody

and they did that,
I would call that as*ault, yeah.

It's not good.

That's why I called for help.

You know,
I need to figure this out,

and I need to
make my house safe.

There is a little girl here,

and I was told,
"don't be fooled by her."

she's definitely
occupying this location.

She wants the child.

W-what child?

I think it's a living child,
'cause she wants it.

She's having a hard time
getting it.

I think that she does this
sometimes,

takes people, living people.

She seems to like kids.

So what happens
when she takes them?

They disappear.

So they wouldn't be seen,
heard from again.

I think she just plays
with them until they die.

so, zac, I understand
that you're

good friends
with holly and mike.

- Yes, sir, I am.
- You have any concerns

about the stuff
they're going through?

Yes, sir.
I worry about the kids.

- Have you had experiences?
- Yes, sir.

Alright, so, why don't you
go over some of them with me?

Well, the first one,
it was down in the basement,

and I went down there

and I'd felt something
from the top of the stairs.

Like, it was just
uneasy-feeling.

What do you think it was?

Something demonic
is how I'd put it.

So, zac,
when I spoke to holly earlier,

she was saying that she felt
watched in the basement.

Do you ever get that kind of
feeling down there.

All the time, sir.

I just feel the hair
on the back of my neck stand up.

- Okay. Anything else?
- Yes, sir.

Actually, it happened
right over here.

I thought I seen
something moving,

so I figure it's a deer,
but it wasn't.

Looked like it was walking
upright.

Alright,
now, you think your eyes

might've been playing tricks with ya?
No, sir.

Can you get an idea of how tall
it was from down there?

It's definitely taller
than me. It was.

I just looked out and stared
at it for a little bit,

and it just vanished whenever
I started to walk up the hill.

Okay, what do you think it was?

I don't know what it was
or why it's here.

I don't want it here.

Okay.

I think the little girl...
She's... Like an animal.

she doesn't want us
to go back there

and she can change shape.

She can get bigger.
But still like an animal.

Would the living have
any experiences with her?

I do think they would probably
see something back here,

like an animal of some sort

that would be
frightening to them.

the dead are
definitely indicating

that she comes from the woods
and the trees.

I think that
she's always been here.

What sort of things
has she been doing?

Well, I know she's taken people.

so, mike, talking to
your wife, holly, today,

she's pretty upset
about everything.

She says something's
taking over her,

basically, and making her
go into a rage.

Have you noticed that?
- Yeah. At night, she'll wake up,

she'll say the dumbest
things to me,

like, "I'm done
with the marriage."

then the next morning,
I'll tell her about it,

and 90% of the time, she don't
even remember what she said.

Well, you know,
she said she's petrified

that you're gonna walk.
- I'm not.

And if she's going through
something, she's my wife

through sickness or health.

So right now, we're
going through the bad.

We'll experience the good later.

There's a male here.

He's dead.

This is a lot of anger here.

The living
are having experiences

in this back area
with this male.

They're seeing this person,
but I don't know how,

and I'm not even seeing him.

Feel like more like he's
inside of me, like I smell him.

He's doing something
to the people here,

but I am trying to get what.

They feel him.

That makes them scared.

Wants to jump in somebody?
No problem.

I feel hatred.

That hatred overwhelms him.

Then I think he wants
to hurt people.

Okay, so as far as experiences
go, have you had any?

I've had some.

One in particular was,
we're laying in bed.

All of a sudden
I feel the blankets

going underneath my leg
and wrapping me up.

Any animals in the house
that can come in and --

no, dog stays downstairs.
He isn't allowed upstairs.

Okay. Alright.

So that's one thing.
Anything else?

My wife noticed scratches
on my arm one night.

So her and the kids
both have been scratched.

- Yes.
- Where were your scratches?

Actually, I have a photo
right here,

and they're on the back
of my left arm.

I got to be honest
with you, bro.

You've had more experiences

than most husbands I've
interviewed in almost 200 cases.

I mean, why don't you just move?
- I don't know.

I guess I just feel
like I can handle it.

I'm a fixer, not a runner.
I'd rather fix. Right. Okay.

It's loud up here.
Damn..

And it's a guy just yelling,

"get out of here.
I don't want you.

What are you doing?"

it's like full blast.

It's bad.

And the energy is very chaotic.

Like, I think that the living
would be restless up here.

I think that they would become
extremely irritated

and probably aggressive.

I know he's getting
into bed with people.

He's not jumping them.
He's melding with them.

Jumping is more violent.
This is more intimate.

And he likes that
because then he knows them,

he knows everything
about that person.

Okay, so before I got to town,

I reached out to
a whole bunch of locals

and asked them to look
at their property for me.

A genealogist
who helped me before

just called and said
she hit the jackpot.

Turns out the guy who built
holly and mike's house

lived his life in shame,

and it was all
because of his son.

So, kim, I appreciate
you helping me out once again.

No problem.

On the phone,
you said the previous owner

had some issues with his son.

Before we get to that, when did
he move onto the property?

Rudy rothacher
bought the property

back in 1946
and built that house

that your client is living in
right now.

Alright, what do we know
about this guy?

He was a miner.

The family had a business --

rothacher brothers
mining company.

When his father passed away,
he took over the mine.

Okay, so he's built a new home,

and he's running
the family business.

How's it go for him from there?

Things were pretty good.

He married a local woman by
the name of arlene. Okay.

A year after they moved in,
they welcomed a son, richard,

and a year after that.
A daughter, gloria.

His son, richard,
I assume this is who

we're talking about that
he had problems with. Yes.

Okay, what happened
with this kid?

In 1967, he joined the m*llitary,

height of the vietnam w*r,
and he went a awol.

They labeled him as a deserter.

The fbi tracked him down
at his home and put him in jail.

This is an article
from the local paper.

Alright, so now rudy's
got a disgrace for his son.

He's got to deal with --
how's it go for him after that?

Gets worse.

A few years after
the incident with the awol,

the mine shut down.

A few years after that,

rudy's sitting
at the dinner table

drops dead
of a major heart att*ck.

Okay, and this is in my clients'
-- in your clients' house.

Alright, so, how old was he
when he d*ed?

Here's his obituary.
He was only 55.

Alright, so now rudy's dead.

What happened with the family
after that?

Few years later,
richard is out mowing the grass,

drops dead of a heart att*ck
right on your clients' property.

He was 35 years old.

This angry man who jumps people

is here with someone else.

The living hear the arguing.

It's something that happened

when he was here
and he was alive.

There was this fighting
between these two men.

this other guy,
he gets agitated.

It feels like his life
was a failure.

And, like, literally
makes me nauseous

when I'm trying to tap
into him and his life.

I don't know if he owned it
or if he lived here.

it's so loud.

Alright, so both father
and son are dead.

What happened
with the widow, arlene?

She kind of had
a rough time of it.

Her sister-in-law came after her
for part of the land.

Can you explain to me
why the sister-in-law thinks

she's entitled to anything?

That land
was the family business.

She thought she had
a claim on it.

Alright, so now there's
the lawsuit.

How'd it go for arlene?
- Not that great.

The sister-in-law
won the lawsuit.

They said that arlene
could keep the house.

Not for nothing,
but if I was arlene,

I'd have a bitter taste
in my mouth for what happened.

She loses her husband,
then she loses a son,

then she loses all her property.

I mean, did she even bother
staying in the house after that?

Yes, she did.

She and gloria lived
in the house until 1987...

Okay.

...When she dropped dead
sitting on her living-room couch

watching tv of a...?

- Heart att*ck.
- ...Heart att*ck.

You've got it, steve.

- How old was she?
- She was only 63.

Three family members --
husband, wife, a son --

all dying relatively young
from heart att*cks

in my clients' property.

I mean, I don't know if it's hereditary...
Coincidence?

...Coincidence, or what,
but I hope

this had nothing to do with
the paranormal.

That I can't give you
an answer to.

Well, that's not what
you and I are here for.

That's something on amy's
end of things.

There is this little
old lady sitting in a chair

like she's the queen,

and she's just sitting there
glaring at me.

And she goes,
"I am at w*r with you.

Why would I speak
to you?"

nasty, old woman.

She owned this...

...For sure,
and she ran this place.

definitely had kids.

She doesn't want
living people here.

She wants them out.

And how is she doing that?

She is trying to influence them
in some way.

She's potentially plotting
something very bad,

possibly plotting m*rder.

Alright, new philadelphia
is an old mining town,

and it doesn't take a genius
to figure out

there must've been
some accidents out here.

So I'm heading over to meet
my old friend mary jamba,

who says she found a deadly one
not too far from holly's house.

so, mary, I appreciate
your meeting with me again.

On the phone, you mentioned
this mining accident happened

real close
to my clients' property.

So what happened?

Well, this is back
on January 3, 1931

in the midvale coal mine.

This was just about a mile
from your clients' property.

- Okay.
- It was a Saturday morning,

and 19 men went
into the coal mine.

- Okay.
- And it was a huge mine.

They would have to take
elevators three miles down

to get into this mine.

So these guys
were pretty far down.

Yes, and once the 19 men
went down,

they split into different teams.

And what they would do is they'd
make these crude expl*sives

to go and break open the coal

so that it would be easier
to extract.

So they went and they put
two charges in,

it misfired and went back
and caused a big fireball,

and then that hit these
24 sticks of dynamite

that were lying nearby,

and that made
an even bigger expl*si*n.

So this is a chain reaction
that happened.

Yes.

One man, he was blown 15 feet
and k*lled instantly. Okay.

And the other four, their
eardrums were -- just popped.

They tried to escape,
but it's also completely dark

because the expl*si*n
also blew out the lights.

So they can't see,
they can't hear,

and they're overcome
by the toxic fumes.

And this was a huge story.
It was front-page news.

I mean, nobody should die
this way.

No, nobody.

I see this muddy path.

The path leads to a cave.

It goes downward.

I saw three arms
sticking out of the mud.

and I felt like they --
all three of them were males.

Maybe they're trying to leave,

but they get sucked back.

They're dead.

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So far, I've got newlyweds
whose marriage is falling apart

due to violent activity in a
house with three family members

all d*ed of heart att*cks,

but I want to see
if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,
I discovered a deadly fire

that took place at a poor house

only a mile from
holly and mike's property.

Okay, so I'm heading over
to meet a local journalist

who knows all about this story.

He says this entire tragedy
could've been avoided

if a severely disturbed patient
had not been left alone.

well, jon, I appreciate you
helping me out with this case.

So this tragedy that happened
right near my clients' house,

what can you tell me about it?

Well, in the early 1800s,

the state of ohio
authorized the counties

to build poor houses
for indigent peoples.

In 1843, tuscarawas county
built theirs

about a mile
from your clients' home.

And later on, they expanded
to include a special building

to house the mentally ill.

And here's a picture
of what the place looked like.

So, jon, I know in past cases,

mental hospitals were pretty bad

as far as conditions went.

What was it like in this place?


The conditions weren't
very good here either.

Patients were confined to cells,

and they weren't
supervised 24/7.

They didn't really receive
any treatment.

Okay, so, basically,
we got mental patients

being treated like prisoners

and not really getting proper
care like they would today.

- Yes.
- Alright, so, jon, on the phone,

you mentioned that
this whole mess

was caused by an unsupervised
"mental patient."

who was it?

It was a woman
named matilda crey.

She was 25 years old,
and she was brought in here

because she had been setting
her clothing on fire.

Her clothing?

Alright, so she was already into
starting fires.

- Yes.
- So we know who the person is.

Take me through what happened.

One day in March of 1858,

she fastened a rope
out of her clothing

and she threw it through
the windows of her cell

and it landed on a stove
and the clothing caught fire

and then that in turn
ignited the whole building.

How bad did it get?
- It was really bad.

All five of the inmates inside
were b*rned to death.

- And that included matilda?
- Yes,

the building had
completely b*rned down,

and the bodies
were just blackened corpses.

And one of the newspaper
accounts said that it was so bad

that even the arms
and legs were gone.

That's really sad.

Regardless of what
people thought

of the mentally ill back then,

that's no way
for anybody to die.

That group of dead people
are still down here.

somebody was writing down
1-8-8-0,

and I see 1-9-0-8.

Two groups, different times,

but they all somehow
are linked from here.

I feel like they are buried
in the same area.

It's always dark for them.

It's always, always nighttime
for them.

I think they're trying to figure
out how to get out of here,

but it hasn't gone well.

I'm seeing that little girl
who can change her shape.

I think she k*lled the people
there in the basement.

She just touches the ground.

She can k*ll a lot of people
if she touches the ground.

I saw several
disturbing things on my walk,

but two stood out.

First, the group of dead
trapped in the basement.

There were about 10 dead people

and they retreated back
into this brick wall.

One guy was the leader
of the group,

and he kind of stood
in front of everybody,

like, in a kind of
protective stance.

Next, I described
the angry man melding

with a living person.

He was tall.

Mid-neck-length hair.

And make sure he's got, you
know, full face.

Okay.

amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

So, amy, I'd like you to meet
holly and her husband, mike.

Now, these two guys
are newlyweds

and should be having
the time of their lives.

But activity in this house is
so bad, it's tearing them apart.

- Not only that, they're raising
two little boys here... - Mm.

...And now they worry that
the kids aren't safe, as well.

So unless amy's got
some questions for you guys,

I'll ask her to describe
her walk for us.

when I first arrived,
I went down to the basement.

I saw people, so I thought
you may hear voices down there.

I do hear voices in the basement
quite frequently.

If you're down there, for sure,
you'd feel watched.

You may catch them out
of the corner of your eyes

or see shadowlike figures.

When she said
"feeling of being watched,"

tell amy, what's going on
down there with that.

I am very uncomfortable.

Usually when I go down there,
I feel like something's

constantly watching me
in the basement.

You know, holly also told me

about seeing shadowy figures
down there.

I did have a sketch done
of what I saw.

aw, geez.

boy.

I can see why I feel
as uncomfortable as I do.

It just seems like everybody's
watching me from that room.

Very creepy.

So what else did you encounter?

The next dead person that I met
was this elderly woman.

She had children, and she looked
to me to be like in her 80s.

At some point,
she owned this house.

I know that.

She does not want
living people here.

It doesn't sit well
with me at all.

You and I, when we first talked,

you felt like
this was never your home.

Yeah. Explains why.

So, not many people
lived in this house,

and as far as I could tell
from the chain of title,

only one woman ever owned it.

And that woman
was arlene rothacher.

Now, she was a mother of two.

She was a widow who lived here

with her daughter
in the '70s and '80s.

Then in 1987, she was sitting
right here in this room

watching tv, when she had
a massive heart att*ck and d*ed.

She was 63.

- Interesting.
- Anything else?

So when I went upstairs,

and then I went into
the room to the left.

Okay, so that's your bedroom.

I saw an angry older dead guy.

When he was alive, he spent
an extended amount of time

at this location.

I got him arguing
with another male.

He is extremely angry,
and he regrets his life.

He feels like it was
a complete failure.

It's not a lot to go on,
but it's enough for me

to take a sh*t in the dark
with this one.

Now, you remember I told you
about arlene rothacher, right?

Well, her husband
was a guy named rudy.

So now rudy bought this property
back in 1946,

but then he built this house

brick-by-brick
with his own hands.

You said the guy was angry,
he felt like a failure.

Well, he ran a coal-mining
company with his brothers,

but they ran out of coal,
and the business went belly-up.

Now, you saw this guy
arguing another man.

Now, rudy had major problems
with his son, richard.

In 1967, at the height
of the vietnam w*r,

richard went awol from the army.

This had to be especially
embarrassing for rudy,

'cause it was in the paper,
locally,

about how his son
was a deserter.

In 1973, rudy had just finished
dinner in the dining room

and d*ed of a massive heart
att*ck and dropped dead.

The guy was only 55 years old.

Nine years later, the son I
was talking about, richard,

he was outside mowing the lawn,

and he drops dead
of a heart att*ck.

He was only 35 years old.

So now that's three members
of the family

all dying of heart att*cks
all right here on this property.

So I'm wondering
if the father, rudy,

might've been
the guy you ran into.

I'd say it'd be his son.

- The son?
- Yeah.

So now you said this guy
was a big problem here. Why?

Upstairs, he was screaming,
and he's like,

"get out of here.
I don't want you."

in my bedroom, somebody told me

that they didn't want me here
and to get the hell out.

Interesting.

When he was around,

his energy is very chaotic
and aggressive.

His influence overall is that
he would make you feel

irritated and aggressive.

Why don't you tell amy
why you think

your marriage is on the rocks.

I have blackouts
and sudden rage,

and it's normally
towards my husband.

And sometimes I don't even
realize what I'm saying.

Waking up out of a blackout,
I start coming to.

And he's just staring
at me, like,

"what the hell
just happened?"

so all this stuff
that's going on,

is this all richard?

Yeah, that sounds like him.

What I saw him doing upstairs
in the bed was melding.

He wants to know you.

So I had a sketch done
of what I saw happening.

I think you guys
are gonna like this.

so that could be why
you're uncomfortable

when you're in bed.

Yeah, I just felt
movement around my feet

and I looked down
and my blanket's

all wrapped up
underneath my feet.

So you do think it's him
and not you?

It might be both of them.

Now, you got held down in bed.

It felt like somebody
was taking their hand like this

and going up my leg.

And when the got up
to my shoulder area,

they pushed me so hard
my face was, like,

stuffed into my pillow,
and I couldn't move.

Is richard messing
with both of them?

I mean, it seems like it?

I think it's disgusting,
quite honestly.

Honestly,
I think it's kind of cool.

The guy's a ****
and you think it's cool?

Yes.

So he's leaving part of himself,

you know, with you guys,

which is really bad
'cause he's dead.

It's dead energy.

He doesn't even need to be here.

He needs to go.
- Okay.

I'm afraid to even ask.
Is there more?

- Well...
- Aw, geez.

Alright.
- Boy.

What I'm most concerned about
is a little dead girl.

So, you know, I was out back,
and all of a sudden

she becomes this, like,
bizarre animal-creature thing.

The dead told me
that she comes from the trees,

from the woods.

She's basically been here --
or it has been here

since the beginning of time
and has never been human.

Now, amy, these guys
have a friend named zac.

He told me
he saw an animal thing

by the trees in the backyard

up on top of the hill here.

He said it almost looked like
a deer standing up.

****

obviously, it freaked him out.

Have you guys seen this thing?
- I haven't, no.

It doesn't want
living people here.

I felt that she had k*lled
the people in the basement.

The other thing is that

she is fixated on a child
that's here.

I think that she does this
sometimes,

takes people, living people.

So what happens
when she takes them?

They disappear.

My youngest told me he's seen
a little girl here.

Not good.

The older boy is the one
that the girl wants to take.

He's not verbal.
He's autistic.

But I can tell he communicates
with something.

I feel sick knowing
that this is going on.

There's something that's
going on with the kids, amy,

that I want you to see.

These kids are waking up
with these marks,

and these guys
are also getting att*cked.

These are scratches.

This is the back of mike's arm.
- Not good.

This is holly's leg.

The att*ck on you guys,
that's richard.

The kids,
I'm pretty sure it's the girl.

I don't like this.

so, holly, you thought
something here was trying

to tear you and mike apart.

Turns out, you were right.

You also thought your kids
might be in danger.

Unfortunately, right again.

Now to answer
the big question --

can you stay here and fight,

or is it time to cut your losses

and save your family
and get out?

For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to amy.

So, the first thing
that needs to be done

is that arlene and richard
are to be removed.

So what I would like to do is
bring my team up to handle this.

Then one member of the team,

who will be a very gentle,
calm male,

will be in your basement

working with those dead people
to move them on.

Once that's done,
the team will need to work on

setting up communication
with the thing outside.

They will need to establish
a wall, a barrier

between your home and yard
and what it considers its space.

I am not certain
how this will go

at that point, the team
will be able to tell you

if they can do anything.

And if they can't,

then that would mean
you would have to leave.

I'm not sure where I stand
on that situation.

So --

I guess I need to experience
something so I can actually --

so you need to experience
one of the kids disappearing?

No, no.

So you're believing
about the dead people,

but the thing up
in the mountain here,

you're not too up in the air
about it?

Yeah, yeah.

I'll leave.

No question.

It's not like this place
is pretty populated.

This ain't brooklyn.
I can tell you that.

This is -- there's
no-frigging-body out here.

Couple of deer?
You know, how you doing?

That's it, right?
- Yeah.

He's always gonna be
a bit skeptical.

- And that's fine
- and that's fine.

Yeah.

But I believe if it comes down
to the team saying,

you know,
it's just gonna get worse

and that's not going to leave,
and I'll move out the next day.

She says she's gonna leave.

Are you gonna go with her?

well, yeah, that's my wife.

you know, push comes to shove,
you got to do what's best.

I really hope the team is able

to set up a barrier
from the thing outside

that's trying
to steal their side.

If they can do that and remove
the dead inside the home,

holly and mike can stay and lead
a safe and peaceful life.

hi, everyone.
I just wanted to jump on here

and give a quick update.

The team that amy
suggested came in,

they cleared all
the negative energy,

moved all the spirits on
that needed to be moved on,

and we've had
no paranormal activity.

My husband, mike, and the boys
have been doing great.

I just want to thank everybody
for coming out and... Yeah.

Everything's amazing.

So... Thanks again.
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