06x04 - Between You and Bre

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Selling Sunset". Aired: March 21, 2019 – present.*
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Revolves around the Oppenheim Group, a high-end real estate brokerage firm in the Los Angeles area (with offices in West Hollywood and Newport Beach), and follows a group of agents as they navigate their personal and professional lives.
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06x04 - Between You and Bre

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["Look Good" by RIIVAL playing]

♪ I'm ahead of the curve ♪

♪ And I serve it up nicely ♪

♪ Yeah, I'm sweet like dessert ♪

♪ But I'm real, real feisty ♪

♪ When I roll up, everybody stop ♪

♪ All the heads turn
Up and down the block ♪

♪ Simon says I'm too hot ♪

♪ Five-0, someone call the cops ♪

♪ I look good
Yeah, you know I look good ♪

♪ Looking good, yeah, I'm good ♪

♪ I look good
Yeah, you know I look good ♪

♪ Looking good, yeah, I'm good ♪

So I know everyone in the office
is all based on Sunset and in Hollywood,

but I think this is a perfect listing

to kind of show
the caliber of houses I can sell.

The property has another listing agent
on it, but it is about to expire.

So the owner brought me in to see if this
is something I'd be interested in listing.

♪ When I roll up, everybody stop ♪

♪ All the heads turn… ♪

Hey, hey!

-Oh my God.
-[Bre] Yes.

Do you like it?

This is fabulous.

-Hi.
-Hi, my love.

-How's baby?
-Oh, baby is hot.

I live at the beach,
so I'm used to beach living.

I'm like, "Woo!"
I came a far way to see you.

-Thank you.
-But I'm excited to see this home.

So, how many bedrooms and bathrooms?

[Bre] So there's eight,
and there's 14 bathrooms,

but they have three powder rooms
on the first floor, so take your pick.

-Oh my gosh.
-Since I know you're preggo. [laughs]

I know, I'm, like,
bursting right now. [laughs]

-Is this a new build?
-[Bre] This house was built during COVID.

They installed every amenity you could
possibly need so you never have to leave.

Wow. So, how much
does something like this run?

-Twenty-five million.
-Okay.

Which I honestly feel like,

now that I'm here,
that's really well priced.

-This'd be 75 million in Beverly Hills.
-Exactly.

Or West Hollywood.

-Wanna show me around?
-[Bre] I'd love to.

There's two staircases.
So one on this side and one on the other.

So you can literally sneak up that side,
sneak down this side.

-Wow.
-It's a perfect little party house.

I mean, it's a party house,
but it has, like…

-Very homey.
-It's warm.

[pop music playing]

Okay, so show me this insane primary. Wow.

Look at this,
and look at these chandeliers.

-Oh, I love them. Can we touch?
-Oh, yeah.

-It's like jewelry.
-I walk by, all I see is a full moment.

♪ I get low, I get high ♪

This primary's
one of the biggest ones I've seen.

-Three thousand square feet. Yeah.
-This is stunning.

[Bre] I can't wait to show you the rest.

It is unbelievable.

[Heather] Oh, girl.

-Wow.
-Are you ready for this?

["Cos I'm Hot" by Rippl playing]

♪ Burning hot hot
Think you hit the jackpot ♪

♪ No, I can't stop
'Til I hit the right spot ♪

♪ Do you want me 'cause I'm hot? ♪

[Heather] So beautiful,
that bar is so sexy.

And I love the black elements.

The bar? Just wait.

Oh! Stop!

-You have your gym, you have your tables.
-[gasps]

-You never have to leave this house.
-[Bre] Never.

[Heather] So show me this garage.

-Do I see a pool table somewhere too?
-[Bre] Mm-hmm.

[Heather] Stop it.

Look at these floors.
The floors are actually Italian porcelain.

-[Heather] Mirrors in the garage?
-What's better than mirrors on every wall?

So you pull up and you're like,
"Hello! I've arrived to my mansion!"

[Bre] This is a part
that could double as a club,

and then our favorite.

-Full salon.
-[Heather] A dream home.

-[Bre] Look at the lighting.
-Perfection. I can't even say anymore.

I might want to, like,
show my husband. [laughs]

But Encino? Eh, you know,
we have kids so I don't know if I could--

-They'd love this.
-They would.

But then we'd have
to talk the ex-wife into it too, so.

Well, true.

♪ You like me 'cause I'm hot ♪

[Bre] Okay. So on that note of girl talk…

We need, not that I can drink,
but a bartender making me a mocktail.

Like, "Drink, please!"

-That would be amazing.
-[laughs]

So, Chelsea's broker's open.

-Oh my God.
-That just went so many ways.

You had an intense conversation with Emma.

I couldn't tell if there was tension
or if you guys were okay.

I'm somebody like…
I can come across really aggressive.

I'm very direct and to the point.

So for me, if I get a whiff of anything,

I'm very like, "Okay, what's up?"

"So let's address this and be done with it
because I'm never going to allow you

to come into my space
and take something that's mine."

I hear you, girl. How did it go?

I feel like I made my point
and I let her know where I stand.

And when I asked my client,
he said that they were friendly.

So he didn't say like she's trying
to snake me, "watch her," like, whatever.

So I feel like it could also be
that I'm, you know,

making sure everybody knows
my place in this office.

-Which is fine, yeah.
-Yeah.

I'm gonna go with what my client said
and just see what happens.

You have to come in as a strong woman
because we're all very strong women.

But I did talk to Emma. I did not think
she would do that to you on purpose.

And she said
she didn't even bring up real estate.

It was like,
"I've known this guy for a long time."

"I saw he was in town. We were texting
and just like saying hi and that was it."

So she reassured me that--

But I just need everyone to know,
like, I'm not messing around with this.

-I have a son, I want to make money.
-Yeah.

I'm claiming these territories
and I'm just…

As long as everybody understands,
we're good.

I've been screwed over
in the past in real estate deals,

-things that I still hold on-- [gasps]
-[insect buzzing]

-OMG.
-Oh my God, no!

-Where is it?
-[laughing nervously] sh*t!

[both laughing]

-Oh, hell no! [screams]
-I can't deal with it, I can't.

-Oh my God, it's time to go.
-What do we do?

We're leaving, this house is nice,
but I don't do bugs. Oh, no!

-sh*t! [laughs]
-[screams] My bag!

-Leave the purse, we'll buy a new one!
-Oh my God!

♪ I'm cool ♪

♪ Turning heads, making her… ♪

["k*ll My Vibe"
by Bad Party Heroes playing]

♪ Sun's out and I'm feeling right ♪

♪ The way I'm walking
Just living that good, good life ♪

♪ Today's my day
And I don't need your validation ♪

-Hi, how are you?
-Hello.

Wonderful. How are you?

-Good, we love it here!
-This is lovely.

Can I grab you anything to drink?

-Rosé?
-Sure, rosé?

To match this beautiful rose.

-Absolutely. Still or sparkling?
-[Emma giggles]

Um, still…
Is there such thing as still rosé?

-He's talking about the water! [laughs]
-Oh! I was like, "Wow!"

"New things at the Cara Hotel.
This is wonderful."

-Rosé! No, the rosé is still!
-Is spark--

-[server] Both, still and sparkling.
-[gasps]

We have both, so whichever you prefer.

Give me whatever the chef recommends.

And if you have some nuts, just anything.

-[server] Alright. I'll be right back.
-We love our nuts.

[both laughing]

[Chelsea] I love Emma.

Obviously business-wise, I think
that she's doing amazing things.

She may be one of two people that

I may help build her bank,
not come for her bank.

Um…

Broker's open, my broker's open,
what do you think of the house?

Oh my God, amazing. Absolutely stunning.

-What did you think of "my broker's open"?
[span style="style2"]-[/i]Yeah, exactly.

-That was the real question.
-You know, because a lot took place.

That broker's was a lot.

That was a lot to handle.

Wasn't it very, like, accusatery?

Accusationary? Accusatery.

-Wasn't it--
-Accusational, right?

Thank you!

Accusational? Accusatery? Which one is it?

-Accusatory.
-Accusatory!

I believe.

Thank you.

-Have a good one. Cheers.
-Okay. Cheers.

I mean, there's a lot to say,
and I just feel like

we've already entered into some bad air…

-Seriously.
-I want to be out of it.

Especially with Mrs. Bre Tiesi.

-Mrs.? Miss? Miss.
-Miss.

My first impression
of Bre so far has been very,

not only negative,
but definitely very aggressive.

I don't need to steal anybody's clients.

I was just looking
at a $33 million property for my client.

I'm about to double-end Micah's property.

So I don't need anyone
coming at me, especially her,

because there's one billionaire client?

Bre definitely crossed the line
when she came at me.

Not only is she new to the office,

not only did she not
take the time to get to know me,

she didn't take time to get
the facts straight on the situation.

She's coming at people that she just met,
she doesn't know anything about,

and she's putting
my character in question.

There's a problem with that.
I have a problem with that.

What do we know about Bre?

We know that she is the baby mama,
one of five, of Mr. Nick Cannon.

She recently got her real estate license,

and she used to work at a modeling agency.

Don't know what kind of agency it was,
just know she never walked the runway.

-So…
-[chuckles]

Not the type of modeling agency
I would be a part of.

But other than that,
I don't know her very well,

but all of these little instances
are painting this not-so-pretty picture.

-Yeah.
-You know.

People say there's something
alluring about mystery.

I can't stand it.

-Just tell me who you are from the jump.
-Exactly.

I'll make my decision whether
I want to be friends with you or not.

-And if you are a rotten person…
-Exactly.

That's fine. You could be rotten
all the way over there in your corner.

Yeah, we have some
bad f*cking eggs in the office.

-So don't get too comfortable.
-Don't get too cozy.

["Hit 'Em" by Smoke & Jade playing]

♪ Are you ready, are you ready? ♪

♪ Let me show you what I'm made of ♪

[pop music playing]

What are these shoes?
I'm, like, all comfy.

Like, we're going for a little stroll.
You've got on four, three-inch heels?

They're comfy, they're boots.

-They're boots.
-[laughs]

[Mary] Come on, let's get you a treat.
Want a treat?

Yeah, you can make it.

[Amanza] It's like us. "You want
a glass of wine? Come on, Mary!"

-[Mary] Come on, you can do it! [laughs]
-[Amanza] You can do it. [laughs]

Oh.

-Oh!
-Hey, bub.

-Feel like I got a good workout in.
-[Mary] Woo.

How's everything else going?
Like, how was Indiana?

Mm.

[Amanza] I went back to Indiana
for a funeral recently.

PR, the person who raised me, basically,

as an adopted kid, just passed.

I know that PR wasn't my real dad,

but it was kind of like laying to rest

the second half of who made me
who I am as a parent.

Shirley was his wife,
and we lost her when I was 19,

but they… they rescued me

from a household that,
like, sh*t wasn't good.

[voice breaks] So yeah, it was…
He was like my dad.

I don't think it makes it any easier.
I mean, 'cause you knew that he was sick.

[Amanza] We knew he was sick,

but even that came kind of fast, you know?

[Mary] Yeah.

Three months is… It went by so fast.

I would have loved to, you know, have been
able to hug him, you know, one last time.

[voice breaks] Just tell him how much
I appreciated everything he did for me.

[gentle music playing]

But he knows, you know.

The past few years,
I would text every now and then, but,

his memory started to go a little bit,

and part of me was afraid
that he wouldn't even remember who I was.

Um, towards the end,
I kind of just like… thinking that he did.

He remembered you.

I think we just have to take the time

to spend it with the people we love.

There are no guarantees.

-You know, I know, life is just stressful.
-Yeah.

-Health has been a little wonky.
-What's going on with that?

[Amanza] Recently there was some things
seen on a scan that were questionable.

I need to get a biopsy.

So, you know,
that feels shitty. [chuckles]

And what did they say?

Sometimes you can have cysts
that go away, they said.

So maybe that's it.

[Mary] Okay.

Did they say it was a cyst or…

They didn't know anything
without doing like a proper biopsy.

Everything was just from the visual.

[Mary] Oh.

You're so strong, but there's just, like,
it's like one thing after another.

I love you. I'm so sorry
that you're going through all this.

[gentle pop music playing]

♪ Watch me move ♪

♪ Just like that ♪

♪ You know how I do it
Got it in the bag ♪

It's my birthday, I get a girls' night.

Well, you know, kind of. [chuckles]

I have a baby boy
so it's never a girls' night anymore.

♪ In this life ♪

♪ Let's have fun ♪

♪ Got me dancing and shakin' ♪

♪ With the moves that we're makin' ♪

-Yay!
-[Emma] No, it's really hard to cut.

-[Bre] Happy birthday!
-Hello!

-Hi, my love.
-Hi, sweetheart. Mwah!

-How are you?
-[Bre] Hi, girls.

We're waiting on Chelsea.
Amanza couldn't make it.

She had work, she was, like,
super busy, so it's just us five.

-[Chrishell] Okay.
-Ooh.

So what do you guys want to drink?

-[Bre] Let's get a drink.
-A mocktail.

-You too? Mocktail?
-No, no, no.

-I was gonna say, what?
-No mocktail.

My mom, I Facetimed with her, telling her
I was going to dinner with the girls,

and I was like,
"They're gonna drink, I can't."

-She goes, "You can have a mock cock."
-[gasps]

-I was like, "Ma, it's called a mocktail!"
-[laughter]

-A mock cock!
-[Bre] Oh my God, I love that.

-I'll have a mock cock later.
-Mock cock's like a vibrator.

[laughter]

-Hi!
-[women] Hi!

-Hi, birthday girl!
-[Heather] Gorgeous!

-My love.
-Come here.

-Can you believe I'm gonna be 35?
-Babe, you don't look a day over 21.

[Heather] Love you.

[Emma] You're like a snowflake in that!

-It's shimmery, oh my God.
-So this is actually--

That's sexy!

♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

Can you believe I'm 35? Almost.

-Two days. But 35?
-[Emma] No, because you're 25.

-I need Botox. When I pop this baby out--
-Your boobies--

They're huge.

-[giggles]
-Are you still having sex?

Of course.

-Mirror blowjobs, he loves.
-[laughs]

What? What's the thing that's out?

Mirror, like in the mirror.
So, I'll put on, like--

I'm nauseous thinking about it,

because while I was pregnant,
I was nauseous.

-Oh my God.
-I haven't been. I feel so good.

-So I'm just continuing, you know--
-Sucking d*ck.

[laughing]

-[Heather] Thank you.
-[server] You're welcome.

So listen to this.

Just before I came here,

I had to show my listing
literally dressed like this.

[laughs]

-[Heather] In Manhattan Beach?
-In Manhattan Beach.

Dressed like a Barbie.

Anyways, it was all worth it

because he called me to say
he's going to be submitting an offer.

-Great news.
-Great.

-Wow!
-[Chelsea] I just got a text right now.

-[Heather] The house you were showing?
-No.

-Another house on 15th Street.
-Different one?

Oh.

-What?
-[Heather] What, is it not good?

[Chelsea] Oh my God.

[Emma] 3.5? It's at 3.95.

It could've been worse, I thought
it would be 3.1 or 3.2 by your face.

No.

-I feel like it's a starting point[span style="style2"].[/i]
-[Bre] Yeah.

-And now you can go back and counter.
-[Chelsea] Yeah.

-Maybe you guys counter back at 3.9.
-[Bre] Something stern.

Like, barely budge.

-Yeah.
-Okay.

[Bre] I feel like,
on that note of real estate,

I wanted to apologize to you
for what happened at your broker's open.

I did come for Emma a little bit, because
I was very territorial of my client.

I'm definitely more aggressive, up front,
because I've dealt with so much sh*t.

My guard is always up.

So I do apologize to both of you.

It was not the place.

I have to stop you right there because
you saying that is, like, so big to do.

-I wish there was more people like that.
-Thanks.

[Emma] And it's such
a hard thing to do that.

I'm going to take Heather's lead
and trust that these girls aren't so bad.

I mean,
I know I have a resting bitch face,

but I'm not always a bitch.

So, I appreciate that
from the bottom of my heart.

That honestly means a lot to me.

Bre came in way too hot,

and now she's trying to backpedal when
she's already shown me her true colors.

I don't really accept your apology.
Girl, I see you.

[Chrishell] Speaking of
Chelsea's broker's open,

this whole Nicole thing is
kind of getting a little out of hand.

Things are getting misconstrued.
I don't know what you've heard or haven't.

I don't have really much any idea.

We talked a little bit, but I still
don't really know what happened.

-Have you talked to Nicole at all?
-Yeah.

So, Nicole, when she tells her side,

it's very convincing
that she did nothing wrong.

That you just started calling her
a f*cking bitch and--

-So she's a sociopath. Like Christine.
-[Chrishell laughs]

-Just-- Just checking.
-[Chrishell] I don't like this.

I'm owning what I did.
I said "You're being a bitch," whatever,

but now she's turned it into
I called her a "f*cking bitch."

All this exaggerating
what actually happened.

-Have you talked to Mary about this?
-[Chrishell] No.

Mary hates conflict.

So, it sucks because she just
doesn't want to, like, have confrontation.

That's why I really want to talk to Jason.

Respectfully, guys,
it's not so hard for Mary to be like,

"Guys, stop this."

"Take preschool games elsewhere,

and let's get back
to touring this beautiful house."

There needs to be a standard set,
and that's just it, I'm sorry.

But is that her character to step in
and be like, "This is not acceptable"?

You're the office manager,
in a leadership role.

So lean in.
Or lean out and I'll take the job.

♪ Time is up
It's about to blow ♪

♪ Watch out
I'm coming, watch out ♪

[pop music continues]

[Mary] Hello?

-Hi!
-Hi, welcome, how are you?

I'm good.

-Nice to see you.
-Nice to see you.

-Hi.
-How are you?

-Hi, hello.
-Thank you for getting us in.

Welcome to[span style="style2"] Jardín de los Sueños.[/i]

-[Nicole] Wow.
-[Mary] What does it mean?

It means "the house of magical gardens."

I've been showing
my clients around for a while,

and this seems absolutely perfect for 'em.

So, thank you for getting me in.
[chuckles]

My clients are a couple
from the UK that work in events.

Anything from Adele concerts
to Formula One.

And they're looking for
a house in LA with a massive backyard,

and I'm determined to find it for 'em.

So it's six bedrooms,
like, 7,000 square feet?

-[agent] 7,000 square feet.
-Okay.

Six bedrooms, five in the main house,
one in the guest house.

-Please walk around.
-Please, experience it on your own.

-Wow.
-Thank you.

♪ Check me out ♪

[Mary] Oh my God, this is beautiful.

I don't even know
how you would get to the top.

They must have a ladder.

-I'm sure they do.
-Lots of additional storage though.

♪ Check me out ♪

[Mary] Love how grand this entryway…

♪ Look at me, wow! ♪

Oh my God, these doors.

-I love the black doors.
-Stunning.

[Nicole] I mean,
this room, it's emotional.

Ah, it's absolutely gorgeous.

[Mary] Good Lord, look at this bathroom.

Look how peaceful this is, you can stand
there and see this greenery behind you.

It doesn't feel like you're in LA, and
it's right in the middle of Beverly Hills.

♪ Everybody got their eyes on me
Check me out ♪

[Nicole] This is where
I would be spending all of my time.

-It's got, like, a European kind of vibe.
-[Mary] Absolutely.

-The style is timeless.
-Yes.

♪ Check me out ♪

-I'm excited for you.
-I know.

-And your clients.
-I cannot believe I found it.

Like, this is the one.

There is no doubt
they are going to fall in love with it.

I mean, I just have
to get them in right away.

I would almost think two steps ahead.

-You know they're gonna love it.
-Yeah.

Prep the offer, be ready to go.

-Definitely.
-Alright.

Well, this was a much better day of
real estate than Chelsea's broker's open,

which was still a bit shocking,
to say the least.

Um, I was on the receiving end of being
called a f*cking bitch on several…

And I mean, it was just…

It was incredibly shocking.

You know, calling me names.
It's like it's…

It's just, ugh…

I started getting phone calls
on the way home from friends,

stuff she'd posted on Instagram,

going off about
how I'm looking for attention.

And the next day I woke up

to text messages and emails from her,
at literally 3:00, 4:00 in the morning.

After the big blowup with Chrishell,

I had several friends telling me that
Chrishell had called me out on Instagram,

calling me a clown and a liar.

Then she proceeded to call me, text me,
email me in the middle of the night.

It's just not okay.

[Nicole] Everyone seems to think
she can do no wrong.

I just don't know why
everyone else won't take the blinders off.

She was probably shocked
and just defensive about it.

-Clearly.
-And you are very passionate.

And probably going at her a little bit.

I mean, I-- I certainly did tell her
that she has a victim mentality.

I don't agree she has a victim mentality.

Listen, I…
I can't talk about this anymore.

We need peace in the office,

and I'm the one in charge right now.

It's my job to keep the office peaceful,
and right now, this is not peaceful.

Everybody felt so uncomfortable
at the broker's open.

-How do you think I felt?
-So this needs to stop.

-Yes!
-Everyone needs to put a pin in it,

and we'll deal
with the facts and stuff later.

-We need to move on.
-I put a pin in it.

After I took what I did,
I'm not interested.

-So we're on the same page.
-Okay.

We'll deal with this when Jason gets back.

I just-- I…
I can't do conflict in the office.

-This is disappointing.
-But in the same sense…

Again, I'm a professional.
I'm-I'm respectful.

I understand.

I'm not going on Instagram
and stirring up sh*t, but Mary…

If you're having this discussion with me
and don't wanna talk about facts,

I hope you at least talk to her.

Right now, this he said, she said,
back and forth, this is unhealthy.

I'm-- I'm--

I don't know who's right,
I don't care right now.

I've got to write an offer which
I'm excited about, and…

I wish you the best of luck,
and I hope your clients get it.

♪ Come with me or move aside ♪

♪ Ready or not
Are you ready or not, yeah ♪

♪ Change is ♪

♪ It's coming ♪

♪ Change is ♪

♪ It's coming ♪

♪ And don't you feel alive ♪

[door opens]

[humming] Good morning.

Look at that little pop of your bump.
I love it.

[Heather] Twenty-one weeks today.

-Passed the halfway mark.
-Halfway.

I brought photos.

-I wanna see.
-Like, tons. [laughs]

-Oh my God.
-Like a receipt from CVS.

-Hi.
-[Heather] Hi.

Look at your nephew.

Aww.

-Look at his little feet!
-He's got big feet already.

Like his daddy.

Hi!

-How are you?
-[Amanza] So pretty.

-I love the hair. Straight.
-Thank you.

Heather's birthday the other night
was so much fun!

Fun.

Bre, Chrishell, and I,
we decided to take the party elsewhere.

-After.
-[Heather] After party.

-Mommy went home. [laughs]
-[Chelsea] After party. Of course. And…

Ugh.

-What? What happened?
-What?

[tense music playing]

-What?
-[Amanza] What?

-[Heather] Something bad?
-[Chelsea] Mm.

[Heather] With whom?

-Bre.
-What?

So, she pulled up her phone,

-and she turned it to me.
[span style="style2"]-[/i]Uh-oh.

-I'm just gonna show you.
-Okay.

It said, "Nick Cannon
welcomes child with LaNisha Cole."

She found out
right when you guys were out?

Yeah, he had a baby.

She didn't know about that?

-Apparently not.
-It's with a different girl now?

-What?
-[Chelsea] Yeah. She was very surprised,

and she was very upset.

-And…
-For good reason.

I actually follow this lady on Instagram.

-Just randomly?
-[Heather] You do?

Is she a model, is she an actress?

So, yeah, she's an actress,
and this was completely a secret.

Wow. That is messy.

What?

If she didn't know about this baby

and that was
the first time she indeed found out,

that is like a punch in the stomach.

It makes me… it makes me incredibly sad
because ultimately,

every additional baby is time taken away

from the bond that your child
and their father is going to have.

Bre did say that they're allowed
to have relationships, right?

But I think open relationships
are based on communication

and everybody being on the same page.

If something's not adding up
or something's not making sense,

it's because it's not working as perfectly
as one may portray it's working.

-Right.
-Right? She's not a sister wife!

But his decisions, you know,
she didn't have a part of that.

But you did have
a part of making the decision…

To be a part of it in the first place.

[Chelsea] I find Nick Cannon and
Bre's relationship rather off-putting.

I just think we're fundamentally
so different, you know,

and ultimately the way I live my life
is very different to her, as a Christian,

so I don't know if we will ever be
super, super close friends.

No matter how you flip it,
switch it, or glamorize it,

the first thing you think about
is not yourself, is your kid.

-Is my kid going to feel loved?
-Right.

Is my kid gonna feel like
I did him a disservice?

She's a good mommy and she does
love him so much, that little baby, yeah.

You can tell, yeah, you can tell
she's a really good mom.

[Amanza] Bre's not here to defend herself,

and Chelsea's passing
a lot of judgment on her lifestyle.

I personally have been through
hell and back with my ex-husband,

and it just kind of makes me wonder

how much sh*t was talked about me
when I wasn't present to defend myself.

[Heather] It's just tough because

people judge her so much,
the outside world, it's publicized.

I mean, you guys know how it is,

the comments, the talking sh*t,
people don't know her life story,

where she came from.

I mean, I can't imagine.

I don't understand his motivation.

If he does love these women,
why complicate it?

It's already complicated.

-Maybe he's a master manipulator.
-I--

And all of these women
have fallen in love with him,

and he's promised them
a situation that he can't keep. You know?

I think the proliferation of kids

in creating multiple
broken homes is disgusting.

No amount of time in the day would allow
Nick to see those 10 plus babies

and give them
the love and dedication they need.

I've had, like,
quite a bit of talks with her,

and I know she's
very comfortable with this relationship

and she's very happy.

Fundamentally, um, she's being bamboozled.

Even if I say to you, "Look, I am happy,

and this is the life I chose

and I like this life,"
that may not actually be the case.

[sighs]

♪ Moving through the shadows ♪

♪ Hear the echo ♪

♪ Close your eyes ♪

♪ Do or die ♪

♪ Moving through the shadows ♪

♪ Hear the echo ♪

♪ It's all right ♪

♪ Moving through the shadows ♪
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