It came here for this woman,
and it's huge,
at least 9 feet tall.
It's trying to k*ll my wife.
I was pushed down the stairs.
It's trying to rip the roof off.
there were 30 bodies
that were discovered.
Wow.
It wants inside the house
because it wants to k*ll you.
I'm pissed off.
Its main emotion is hatred.
I'm hearing a devil's triangle.
My name is amy allan.
I see dead people.
I think he might've
been a stalker.
I speak to dead people.
And they speak to me.
He will k*ll you.
He has k*lled people.
But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
They're being possessed.
I rely on my partner.
I'm steve dischiavi.
I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective.
How many people d*ed here
over the years?
And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
It's my job to reveal them.
But steve and I never speak...
We never communicate
during an investigation.
...Until the very end...
This sketch is like a nightmare.
...When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
I never thought
that the biggest problem was me.
...Or time to get out.
He could, more than likely,
k*ll you.
I'm out here
in watertown, wisconsin,
it's about an hour
west of milwaukee.
I received a call
from a woman named pam.
Now, she tells me the paranormal
activity is out of control.
It's attacking her
and her husband,
destroying their health, their
sanity, and their marriage.
Pam says if she doesn't
get help soon,
it's going to k*ll them both.
I'm seeing this thing
has a very bizarre shaped head,
and it's huge,
at least 9 feet tall.
This thing storms in,
and it pushes against my face.
It's impatient.
Its main emotion is hatred.
So, pam,
when we spoke on the phone,
sounded like things
were pretty bad here,
and you were upset about it.
Yeah, I'm upset about everything
that's happening here.
It's trying to tear apart
my marriage and k*ll me.
That bad?
Yeah, I feel like
it's not my house.
Who lives in the house?
My husband and I.
Just you two?
Yes.
I didn't want to move here.
I had a bad feeling about it,
but my husband insisted,
and I went along with him.
When you say you had a bad
feeling about the house,
that sounds like abilities.
Do you think you have any?
It's possible.
I see things that are going
to happen before they happen.
My father used to do that, too.
Amy's always said
that it gets passed down
from generation to generation.
That could be the cause of a lot
of the activity you're having.
No.
Alright, pam, do me a favor
and give me a list
of what's going on in the house.
Objects are being thrown
on their own.
We hear voices.
We see shadows.
We have physical att*cks
and mood swings.
So the mood swings,
describe them for me.
What are we talking about?
We can both come home
and be in a happy mood.
We walk through the door.
I immediately get angry.
Tim will get angry over nothing.
That's not us.
It's almost like the paranormal
has control over both of us.
Now, you had said
your marriage was on the rocks.
Is it because of this?
Yes.
I love him more than anything,
but I can't take
what's happening anymore.
I'll leave him.
So you're ready to walk
if we can't fix this?
Yes.
It's taking me down physically
and mentally,
and I can't take much more.
Before I die, I want peace.
Okay.
There's a living woman
here, and this 9-foot-tall thing
definitely came here
for this woman.
You feel it staring
in those windows,
and you feel like somebody
wants to do you harm.
They're definitely hearing it
trying to get into the house.
It's crazy, because I feel like
at times, it's gentle,
like light tapping
on the windows,
knocking at the doors.
But sometimes
it's getting pissed,
just trying to rip the roof off.
I don't understand
how it hasn't done damage
to the house already.
Why does this thing have
kind of different demeanors?
People that d*ed here
created this thing,
and their souls
went into this thing.
But it's developing
its own consciousness
and personality now.
So there's a battle
going on within this thing.
Sometimes it's evil,
and sometimes it's just
these people needing help.
But when the people
are in control of it,
they're looking for someone.
I believe there's a living woman
here who has abilities.
The victims want her help
to move on.
Alright, so, pam, this is
the basement, obviously.
You don't look too comfortable
being here. What's up?
I don't like it.
I feel --
I'm not comfortable
down here at all.
What's going on?
I hear rocks thrown in the back
of the basement.
So it sounds like somebody's throwing
rocks against a wall? Correct.
Could it be kids from
the neighborhood? No.
So, anything else
happen down here?
I saw a black mass.
Where'd you see it?
Like right in this area.
Okay.
Describe the mass to me.
It was dark and creepy-looking.
I mean, how tall
do you think this thing was?
I don't know, about like that?
How wide, maybe?
Alright, so big enough
to be a person.
Right.
Okay, so, anything else?
I was pushed down stairs.
Alright, so, do me a favor.
Push me as hard
as you got pushed.
Okay.
and there's concrete floor here.
You could've got k*lled.
Yeah.
So what do you think
this all means?
I don't know.
I feel like somebody's
trying to take over our house,
doesn't want us here.
Watch the stairs.
There have been accidents
on the stairs.
That thing,
it's managed to be able
to stick its head in over there.
it's getting in.
It's starting to get in.
What happens if this thing
manages to get through?
It could try to k*ll
the living woman.
so, pam, this is a nice bedroom
you got here.
What's going on?
I have a lot of health issues.
Okay, like what?
I've got heart issues,
lung, nauseated, pain.
And you think it's this
house that's causing it? Yes.
So, pam, I mean,
your health issues,
I'm not so sure how much that
has to do with the paranormal.
But on amy's side, she may be
able give you some answers.
We'll see.
Okay.
I see an old couple,
a male and a female,
and they call themselves
relatives
of the living woman
who has abilities.
They have covered
her eyes and ears,
because they don't want her
to have abilities.
There seems to be
precognitive ability
in this living woman's family,
like knowing things
are going to happen,
like so-and-so's going to die
in a month, and then it happens.
I have a headache.
The woman who lives here,
who I guess is
a descendant of theirs,
is feeling very sick,
you know, is having illnesses
because of this
pains throughout her body.
You know, if it's long enough,
she could actually,
you know,
develop different cancers.
so, anything else going on
in here
a few times,
my husband were both awake.
You could feel the mattress
going down.
It's like someone
sitting on the bed.
Do you see the indentation?
Yeah, it goes down like this.
Has anything else happened?
Yeah. I've had scratches
on my arms, back, and legs.
How are your nails? You scratch
yourself at night by any chance?
No, I don't really
have much for nails.
No, I don't.
Now, do you ever see anything
when that's happening?
Well, there's always
shadows in here.
One night, I got my face covered
where I couldn't see,
like somebody put their hands
over my face.
Has anything else happened?
I get touched a lot in here.
Okay. Like what?
The back of my leg
gets grabbed and squeezed.
Now, listen, I get cramps
at night in my legs really bad
to the point where it feels like
somebody's taking it
and just twisting it.
You sure it's not that?
Yes.
Got crazy stuff going on.
Yeah, it's crazy.
How are you coping with this?
I'm not.
I'm ready to run.
Everything's going to hell.
You weren't expecting this
in this part of your life,
were you?
No, I wasn't.
I was expecting paranormal.
I thought it was all movies.
I walk in here,
and I see the old man
who is this
living person's relative,
and he's just like,
you know, like this
with his --
with his leg crossed.
He thinks he's protecting.
But no, you're not.
The living here
would feel him sitting there.
He's very physical.
I'm getting
that there's the indentation
on the end of the bed.
I'm seeing a woman's legs
on the bed,
and he's grabbing them.
I think he might
leave marks on her legs.
What kind of marks
would he leave?
Like bruises, little bruises.
He just grabbed my leg,
and he's **** with my leg.
**** what is he doing?
so, tim, I was talking
to your wife today.
She thinks
it's pretty dangerous here.
I mean, you agree with that?
I believe for her
it's dangerous.
I think whatever it is,
is trying to k*ll my wife.
She was talking to me
about the mood swings
and how you guys, you're raging
and each other at times.
Is that something you're seeing?
Yeah. My moods have gotten
out of control here.
I feel like
I'm in a violent rage.
Is this something
that just comes over you?
It just comes over me
like real fast.
I'll get, like,
heart fluttering,
like -- it's like a panic.
So, what have you seen
as far as pam's mood change?
It slowly builds up
to where she wants to hit me.
You know I was a cop for over 21
years, right? Yes.
You sure you guys
don't need a counselor
and not a paranormal team?
Yeah, I'm positive.
So when you guys do fight,
I mean,
what's the main fight that
you guys are always having?
We fight about
our finances a lot, steve.
I was doing something really
off-the-wall strange.
I sat up that night,
left her asleep,
and got on the internet
and got credit card after
credit card after credit card
for no damn reason at all.
Now, did you start using
the credit cards?
Yes.
Okay, so that's the problem.
I still don't understand
why the hell I did it.
When she found out
about this credit card stuff,
did she flip out?
Yes.
She was super pissed off,
which I don't blame her.
Have you stopped
ordering credit cards online?
Yeah, but now there's thousands
of dollars worth of debt,
and the conflicts
still are occurring,
because how the hell are you
paying this debt off now?
She's concerned that
the marriage is going to fail
because the paranormal causing
all this -- this in-fighting.
If it continues
the way it is now,
I honestly feel like it will.
There are some issues.
There's division, big-time.
Lots of anger.
Do you know what the anger
in here stems from?
Everything.
I think everything --
there's something financial
going on.
some trust was
definitely broken here.
Don't feel very well in here.
Anxious.
I feel really dizzy,
very light-headed,
like a panic att*ck.
Freaking out. Freaking out.
This is
a living person's energy.
What's causing it?
I feel like
there's anger behind it.
And this person feels, like,
o-overwhelmed by it.
This living person
comes here to freak out.
alright, tim,
so do me a favor and go over
some of the experiences
you've had.
I've got the feeling
of being watched
all the time all over the house.
Any idea if it could be
a male, female,
something that was never human,
anything like that?
I'm suspecting it's a man.
Alright, so anything else?
I see shadow figures
all around the house.
Okay, so, where?
I've seen them in the basement.
I've seen them in the hallway.
What do they look like to you?
Black mist that moves real fast.
So, anything else?
Electronics
get messed with often.
Alright, so
give me some examples.
Lights go on and off.
Tvs go on and off.
So, with all the crap
that's going on here,
what the hell
do you think it wants?
Think it wants
to tear our marriage apart,
t*rture or k*ll pam.
If this thing
were to be successful
in getting rid of her,
I mean, that would
break my heart.
She means the world to me,
I mean, like no one other.
Right.
I'm seeing this dead farmer.
He says he's good
with electronics.
What does he do with those?
Television stuff, light stuff,
like turning things on and off.
he tries to be seen.
He wants them out.
He wants them to leave.
He's like, "I'm not trying
to get involved with the family.
I'm not trying to,
you know, do any of that.
I'm just trying to get them
out of here, you know,
because the land's
really not good."
so in principle,
he's trying to help them.
Yeah. Yeah.
Something's wrong here.
I'm heading over to meet
a local genealogist who says
she found something that's
definitely going to help me out.
Now, it turns out the original
owners of pam and tim's house
had to work real hard to
convince his wife to marry him,
only to have the whole thing
end in tragedy.
So, this guy you talked
to me about on the phone
that a tragic story, who was he?
His name was edward davies.
He was a welsh immigrant
who came here to the united
states in 1848.
In 1861, he bought
20 acres of farmland
here in watertown,
and he also built this property.
Tell me about this wife
that was so hard for him to get.
What's the story with that?
Well, in 1870,
a prominent evangelical
welsh minister
named rachel painter
came to the united states,
and she delivered sermons
in several american cities.
And edward saw her
give a sermon one evening
and instantly
fell in love with her.
And he continued to travel to
see her sermons in other cities.
And every time he saw her,
he asked her to marry him.
And she always said no.
Okay, but she
eventually says yes.
She did say yes.
She married him in 1873
and came to watertown
and settled with him
to make a family.
Now they're settled
on my clients' property.
Yes. And in 1874,
they had a daughter, annie.
And in 1876,
they had a son named joseph.
Now, I know it gets tragic.
What happened?
In 1888,
edward and rachel and their son,
joseph, went back to wales
to have an extended visit
with welsh relatives.
Annie, who was a teenager
at the time, stayed here.
One night
while they were in wales,
joseph was reading
bible passages to his father
when edward d*ed
suddenly of a stroke.
And joseph was 11.
So the guy drops dead
right in front of his son.
Yes. He was 57.
alright, so now he's dead.
Do they rush back home?
Yes. But unfortunately,
they did not get back
to the united states before
their daughter, annie,
developed rheumatic fever
and d*ed after a short illness.
And here is annie's obituary.
Geez. Alright.
So the mother never saw
her daughter again. No.
The kid was young. She was
only 16, according to this.
So this is a tragic story.
It was very tragic.
the farmer's saying
he used to work the land.
He says a lot of people die
working on the land.
Spent a lot of time
out in the sun.
He's in his 50s.
He goes back to about,
you know, like the 1860s.
And I think he d*ed
from a heart att*ck.
okay. I just got a call
from a retired cop
who's helped me out before.
Now, he was flipping through
old police reports
and found
three separate murders.
All the victims were women.
All were k*lled in the '80s,
and all were m*rder*d
right near pam and tim's house.
so, otto, good to see you again.
This watertown I'm working,
it's a pretty small town.
But you came up
with three murders.
Let's talk about the first one.
First one was michelle manders,
a 2-1/2-year-old
that went missing.
So, what were the circumstances?
What happened?
Well, in the morning
of October 14, 1981,
her mother jan
went to her bedroom,
missing. Just vanished.
Did they question anybody?
What was the story?
One of the neighbors, she
happened to be over that night.
And her first statement
was she admitted
to opening the door
in the middle of the night
and letting out
michelle manders outside.
Alright, so that's
a little suspicious right there.
It is.
About three weeks later,
they find the body
of michelle manders
on the banks of the river.
And it so happens to be
about 3,600 feet
from your clients' property.
What's the cause of death?
Well, the autopsy
revealed drowning.
The neighbor,
what happened with that?
Did they bring her in?
Did they put her in the box?
They just questioned her, took
her statement, and that was it.
No arrests were made. They had
no evidence for anyone else.
So the case remains unsolved.
Yeah, something
doesn't sound right.
Okay, so, what was
the second one?
A single mom named karen maier,
on September 15, 1986, was found
dead in her home.
What's the circumstances?
She was beaten, stabbed,
and sh*t multiple times.
Okay, so that's a lot of rage.
I'm assuming that has to be
somebody she knew.
Well, the next day, her
ex-boyfriend joseph iwanowski
walked into the police station
and turned himself in,
admitted k*lling her.
He got put away for life.
However, in 2008,
he had been paroled.
So he did at least 20 years
before he got out.
Okay, so let's talk
about the third one.
It was a 38-year-old lady
named resa scobie brunner.
She was found dead in her home
by her husband.
She had been beaten to death
with an aluminum bat.
Was the husband the first guy
they looked at?
Yes, he was.
He admitted to the police
that the marriage had some --
many, many serious issues.
When they were not fighting,
they both were dating
other people.
They collar this guy?
Actually, he had an alibi.
On the night of the m*rder,
the husband was
with another woman.
Did they ever like
anybody else for this?
Well, the victim here, resa,
was also on a date
with a man named matthew knapp.
Okay.
So the police found matthew,
and they found blood
on matthew's clothes.
Okay. Any match
with the victim?
Took about a decade
before dna advanced enough,
and it was determined that
the blood on matthew's clothing
matched resa's blood.
They don't make an arrest
for 10 years.
Correct.
Did they get a conviction?
Yes, they did.
You know,
for a quiet neighborhood,
there's a lot of v*olence
going on.
Yes.
Especially domestic v*olence.
You would never think people
would do that to each other.
Not in this community.
Okay.
I'm seeing this weird
tall thing again.
It's made up of
so many dead people.
Are people still being
added to this thing?
It seems to take on only those
who die violently or something.
is it capable of hurting people?
Yeah, it hates
the woman with abilities.
It just wants to k*ll her.
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So far, I have a couple's
marriage falling apart
due to paranormal activity
on a property near the scene
of three brutal murders,
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
looking through old records,
I find a map
of an old
native american burial ground.
Turns out bodies
were uncovered real close
to pam and tim's house.
So I reached out to
a local historian that I know.
And he says the story
of the native americans
in that burial ground
is one of betrayal,
heartbreak, and v*olence.
alright, so, this burial ground
that's near
my clients' property,
before we even get to that,
what do we know about the tribe?
This is the ho-chunk nation,
one of the earliest
native american tribes
here in wisconsin.
They covered a good portion
of wisconsin for a long time.
And they also had a settlement
on the west end
of the rock river,
right about where your
clients' property is located.
How big were they?
Well, at one point,
historians believe
close to 20,000.
This dates back
into about the 1800s.
They were a very spiritual group
that believed
in a lot of rituals.
In fact, the name actually
translates into "sacred voice."
so, you know, dave, I've done
a lot of these investigations
where native americans
always come up, right?
Every time you turn around,
they're getting screwed.
How about these guys?
What's the story?
Well, what happened
was the french white settlers
moving in in the early 1620s,
and that resulted
in a large epidemic
which actually wiped out almost
2/3 of the population.
Okay. So, do we know
if there's any battles
near my clients' property?
There's nothing documented
that there were any battles
in watertown.
But by 1873, most of the tribe
had been relocated
out towards nebraska.
Can you imagine somebody
coming now, settling,
and trying to get you
off your property?
Yeah, exactly.
It's a population
that had been almost 20,000
was reduced down to almost 500.
So they were almost wiped out.
Almost.
Alright, so let's get
to the burial ground.
What do we know about it?
In 1895, they found
skeletal remains
about 2,300 feet from where
your clients' property's located
on a farm.
Alright.
One body. A shame,
but it doesn't seem like
that big of a deal.
No, it doesn't.
But in 1941,
there were 30 bodies
that were discovered.
Wow. Okay.
Some of them were women,
some of them were children,
as well as men.
Alright. Any idea
what k*lled these people?
What was found along
in the mounds
was a g*n and also spearheads.
So based on what we know, it was
either v*olence or disease.
I've heard before
that they used to display
some of these bones they found.
What did they do
with these guys' bones?
Unfortunately,
they were discarded.
So nobody knows
what happened to them.
They threw them out.
Yes.
Sounds like to me these guys
couldn't catch a break, right?
Yeah. But the fact is, look at
the resiliency of these people.
And they're still here today,
and they're still flourishing.
On the land, there were
many people k*lled by men.
What kind of people?
I think that they might
have been native americans.
Do you know who was doing it?
I just know
that it was some men.
I don't know if they
were, like, with the m*llitary
or just some weird random guys
who like to k*ll people.
and the blood
went into the earth.
And then this thing that I saw
looking in the windows
was born from their blood
and their souls together.
And it equaled hate.
And it grew, too.
It used to be really tiny.
When it first popped up,
it was small.
but now it's huge
and extremely dangerous.
I saw several unsettling things
during my walk,
but two concern me the most.
First, the tall creature
trying to get into the house.
This thing was gigantic.
It's about 9 or 10 feet tall.
And its head was kind of
like a funnel shape, like this.
And the hand
was unusually large.
Next, I describe the old man
grabbing a living woman in bed.
Very thin. He had very,
like, hollowed-out cheeks.
It seemed to me
that he was more bald.
He had a very large nose,
very pointed features.
the nose is more --
like, more kind of hawk.
Okay.
amy, is this what you saw?
Yes.
Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
and our clients
for the first time.
So, amy, I want to
introduce you to a couple.
This is pam
and her husband, tim.
Now, they've been
married for 20 years,
but since they moved
into this house a few years ago,
activity is out of control,
and everything's gone to hell.
They think their marriage,
their sanity, and their lives
are at risk. And that's
why they called us in.
So unless amy's got
questions for you guys,
she'll tell us about her walk.
So, when I walked
into the house,
I went down the hallway
and into the two rooms
to the right.
And in both rooms, I got hit
with very heavy
negative energies
which were coming
from the living people here.
There was something
about finances.
I saw that all of this
led to arguing
and then a division
between these two people.
You just hit on a big reason
why pam and tim called us in.
You said they were fighting
over finances.
Well, you might as well
tell her, tim.
I would sit up
wee hours of the morning,
and constantly get more credit
cards, one after the other.
I have no idea why.
I mean, I had like
50 credit cards after a while.
How -- okay.
With finances,
we've fought about that a lot.
Still do.
Now, do me a favor.
Tell amy about the mood
swings you guys are having.
We can be gone, away
from the house, and we're happy
and having a good time,
and all is great.
And we walk in the house,
within a half hour,
we're at each other's throats.
I've had a lot of violent rages
towards her in the house.
And you've not had these issues
prior to moving in here? No.
No? Okay.
And he looks like
he's just not tim.
Not him.
He's not acting like tim.
He's not even --
his behavior isn't tim.
It's like, I want tim back.
so, what else?
Okay. So, I did get
that there is a living woman
here who has abilities.
I was told
that you are a psychic
and that you're a healer.
I think by moving in here,
one of your latent abilities
is coming up,
and I think it's mediumship,
alright?
Good god.
And that's important
as to what's all going on here.
God.
Are you surprised hearing
about her abilities?
Yeah, I'm surprised
by the medium stuff.
I was also told that these
abilities run in your family
and that a lot of the psychic
and the precognitive --
so, precognitive being getting
information about events
that happen in the future
and them coming to pass.
my mother, I saw
how she was going to die.
So did she die
the way that you saw?
Yes, she did.
It's scaring the hell out of me.
So, what else did you encounter?
The first dead people
I would like to discuss
is a couple that I met.
The couple is here
because they are related
to the living woman
in the house.
There is a female.
She's older,
in her late 60s, stocky build.
Sounds like my grandma.
The male is tall
and thin and balding.
The older man has abilities
and stated that they do
run in his family.
So they're here because
they don't want you
to have paranormal experiences.
What they're doing to you
to try to prevent this
is they're literally
covering your eyes
and covering your ears.
Okay.
I was sleeping or half asleep --
I wasn't fully asleep,
and something came over my eyes,
and I couldn't --
it was like I was being
held there, and I couldn't see.
This can make you sick.
Headaches, definitely.
Pain throughout your body.
And if they continue to do
what they're doing,
you could potentially
also develop cancer.
That's one of
the main reasons we're here.
I mean, pam's 62,
but she's got health issues
for somebody much, much older.
My heart's stiff,
and now I'm on this medicine.
So I'm sick a lot and tired.
Pam said she thought the woman
sounded like a grandmother.
We actually have a photo here
of her grandparents.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
So you're pretty convinced
that these are the two
you might have run into.
I mean, yeah.
Alright, so now we know
it's your grandparents
that are here
trying to protect you
from the paranormal.
I could see my grandma,
doing that, yeah, my grandpa.
So, is there anything else
that they're doing?
Yes. The older man
is the one in charge.
And when I went into the bedroom
at the end of the hall
to the left --
so, I'm thinking
this is the master.
Right, that's your bedroom.
I saw him in there.
And he sees himself
as the protector.
He was sitting on the edge
of the bed.
And I was wondering if when
he sits on the edge of the bed,
if you feel the indentation.
I think he would wake
the living person up,
and they would feel him
watching them.
It felt like somebody
was sitting on the bed.
And it always felt like
somebody was on my side
of the bed watching me.
But she's actually seen
the indentation in the bed.
Yeah, the indentation
in the bed.
Grandpa.
But you also felt watched
all over the house, right?
Yeah, constantly,
no matter where I am.
I did get to see a little bit
of his kind of dark side.
I'm seeing a woman's legs
on the bed,
and he's grabbing them.
I think he might leave marks
on the legs.
And I did have a sketch done
of what I saw in that moment.
geez, looks just like him, too.
good god.
Grandpa, what are you doing?
some nights, I get really
bad pains in my legs.
So, why do you think
you would get frustrated?
I'm not paying attention
and listening.
I've honestly picked up,
like, this vibe
that there's something here
that wants us to get the hell
out of here, constantly.
And I always got the feeling
like somebody's trying to --
somebody wanted me to die.
Well, that's something else.
It's very unusual looking.
It's very, very big,
I'd say over 9 feet tall.
All I know is that it formed
a long time ago.
I got that there was
some kind of event outside
that did k*ll, I believe,
some native americans.
I saw them being
really horribly m*rder*d.
And this thing was born
from their blood
going into the earth.
It also bound all
of their souls together.
The other thing
it's been doing since then
is that anybody who dies
a violent death in this area,
it collects their souls.
There's some native american
history in this town
that you really need
to know about.
Before watertown was founded,
the native american tribe
called the ho-chunk lived here.
I actually got some photos
of, you know,
what life was like
for these guys back then.
So, at one point,
they had 20,000 of them
living in this state.
After the first contact
with the french in the 1620s,
it was nothing but death,
v*olence, and misery for them.
So now the first thing
to happen was
an epidemic wiped out
2/3 of their tribe.
Finally, in the 1840s,
the u.S. Government
forced them out of the state
and made them live
in a reservation in nebraska.
So now the white settlers,
once they came in
and pushed
the ho-chunk tribe out,
they started
digging up the land.
No.
So they ended up finding
a bunch of bodies
about 2,300 feet from here.
Now, the expert I spoke to said
they will never know for sure
how they d*ed because
they just threw the bones out,
believe it or not.
What? Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
But when they found them,
there was hundreds of spears
and one g*n buried with them.
It's logical to assume
that they d*ed a violent death.
Well, that's crazy.
Wow.
So, you said you're worried
about this tall thing.
Why?
So, I saw it, like,
kind of banging on the walls
and then jumping on the roof
and, like, trying
to pull the roof up.
The other thing, though,
that it does,
it will tap lightly,
like on the windows,
or even it showed me
knocking -- softly knocking
at the front door.
Didn't you say you heard rocks?
It sounds like stones
are being thrown,
and tim's found stones
out of place.
They're all over by the wall.
Down here?
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Is that something
that sounds like this creature?
Yes.
Good god.
So what this thing is,
it's like
a split personality. Okay?
Sometimes the souls
of the m*rder*d native americans
are in control,
but sometimes the entity
is in control.
They're constantly
battling each other.
The reason why
you come into play
is because these dead people
want help to move them on,
to save them.
Can I leave for a minute?
Okay.
you okay?
Yeah.
I know.
It's a lot to hear.
Damn, I wasn't expecting that.
They want you to move them on.
But of course, "it" now has --
its own animal-like personality
does not want that to happen.
And its goal is
it wants inside the house,
because it wants to k*ll you,
because it sees you as a thr*at.
When I came down
into the basement,
it found a weak spot over there.
And it's gotten
its head through.
God.
And I did have a sketch done
of what I saw.
ooh.
you're probably not going to
want to look at that, but --
****
I don't want to die like this.
I already see
what you're going to say
at the end
of this whole thing --
that we're going to
have to move, and that's --
Well, let's wait a second.
No, 'cause I'm starting
to get a little pissed off.
You guys are jumping
to conclusions.
I'm sorry.
You're at step 12,
and we're at step 8.
I don't even care anymore.
I'm pissed off.
I'm going to walk away.
Alright.
you okay?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
So, when I talked to you guys
the other day,
I knew things were bad here,
but I didn't realize how bad.
Now we're going to answer your
big question.
Can you stay and fight,
or do you need to leave
and cut your losses?
For that answer, I'm going
to turn it over to amy.
As far as the thing,
I would like my team to come
and move on the dead from it
so that their souls
can be free finally
and for them to remove
what remains of it.
And that will
get rid of this thing?
Yes.
I would also like them
to speak with your grandparents,
because I know
that your grandmother
would very much like to move on.
So I'm hoping that the team
can convince your grandfather,
as well, to move on, so that
both of them can be free.
I would also like to say
that I think
you guys obviously
have been through a lot.
I would highly recommend
going to marriage counseling
to rebuild your marriage
and heal
from the last few years of --
from all of this.
So it sounds like they can stay.
Yeah.
Do you feel better
about everything now?
Yes, I actually do,
knowing that it can be corrected
and I don't have to move,
because I felt like
it would be never-ending.
You sound better
than you did an hour ago.
I feel much better.
I know what I have,
and I know what's going on.
And I know
that it can be taken care of.
That mean you're going to do
what amy tells you?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah? Okay.
Yeah, you guys were great.
Thank you.
I really hope pam and tim
contact the team
to clear the tall thing
and the dead
from their property.
If they do that
and seek counseling
to heal their marriage,
I believe they will be
on their way
to finding the happiness
they deserve.
13x10 - Mortal Danger
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"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.
"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.