14x01 - Victimville

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14x01 - Victimville

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[ominous music playing]

[Amy] So,

there's been a guy around.

He's definitely a creeper.

It's an unusual amount

of anger that he has.

When I had woken up,

I was being choked.

We have demons in this house.

[Matthew]

Did he just jump you now?

Yeah.

There was bloody handprints

all over.

He can jump into the body

of living people?

-Can I?

-[Steven] Yes, sure.

[Amy] What's the matter?

[Paije speaking]

[Amy] This makes me nervous.

He wants to k*ll them.

He wants the person dead.

My name is Amy Allan.

I see dead people.

I saw a lean creature.

I speak to dead people

and they speak to me.

This person feels

like a monster.

But there's only one way

to know

if my findings were real.

They're sucking the life

out of this people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DiSchiavi,

I'm a retired New York City

Homicide Detective.

So how many bodies we talking?

And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate

during an investigation.

...until the very end.

Oh,

you're not gonna like this.

When we uncover if it's safe

for you to stay.

I'm sorry.

I need to take a break.

Or time to get out.

It wants inside the house

because it wants to k*ll you.

[gasps]

[ominous music playing]

[Steve]

I'm here in a desert city

of Victorville, California.

It's a couple hours

outside of Los Angeles.

It's hot as hell up here,

but this was a case

I just had to take.

A desperate woman

named Monette called,

says whatever's in her house

k*lled her roommate,

and if we can't help,

it's gonna k*ll again.

My granddaughter

has been recently choked

by a demon in her sleep.

[Steve] Monette sounds

real shook up.

I'm hoping Amy and I can find

a way to help her out.

[crickets chirping]

[Amy] Oh, oh.

The area has an extremely,

heavy, sad, uh, vibe,

like maybe there had been

a great loss at some point.

The problem with that is that

the living, uh, could be,

uh, susceptible to feeling

this sadness,

this depression.

Bad situation...

Bad situation.

[crickets chirping]

[ominous music playing]

[Steven] So Monette,

this is a big beautiful home

you have here,

but when we spoke

on the phone,

you sounded pretty upset.

Why don't you tell me

what's going on?

We have demons in this house

and it's a very

dangerous place.

Demons is pretty specific.

Um, what makes you say

its demons?

From the things I've seen

and the things

that are going

under this house,

I don't think it could be

anything else, but...

Now, you also mentioned

on the phone that, uh,

the paranormal k*lled

your roommate?

Yes.

[Steve] Tell me about that.

His name was Thomas,

and he was my really

good friend,

-and roommate.

-Okay.

And we bought the house

together.

He d*ed of a heart att*ck

last year.

How old was he?

[Monette] He was .

The man is years old.

Dying from a heart att*ck

is not uncommon.

Um, what makes you think

it's paranormal related?

It's upsetting for you

talk about it?

-He was my friend.

-[Steve] Yeah.

And he was very healthy.

It couldn't be anything else.

We loved him very much

and we miss him.

So, Monette,

let's get to some basics.

Who lives in the house?

Okay.

[Monette] That's me,

and then there's

my -year-old granddaughter,

Paije,

and on the other side

is Thomas's son, Steven.

Do me a favor. Give me a list

of what you guys

are experiencing here.

We're seeing shadow figures,

people are being

physically att*cked,

and we are having a lot

of mood swings, and fatigue,

and we're all getting sick.

Uh, what kind of elements

are we talking about?

Steven also had

a heart att*ck.

Okay. How old is he?

He is .

Ooh, okay. What else?

What about you

and your granddaughter?

I have broken bones in my

ankle and foot right now.

I have no idea

how they happened.

Okay. So you didn't have an

accident and all of a sudden

-you got broken bones?

-[Monette] Exactly.

[Steve] And what about

your granddaughter?

Well, Paije right now is, uh,

stable from being a victim

of clival chordoma cancer

in her brain.

She was doing rather well

and very stable...

-Okay.

-...until we moved in here.

And now she has several

medical issues.

What about, uh,

the mood changes,

what do you mean by that?

I get angry right away.

I used to be really

happy-go-lucky.

Steven has periodic tantrums.

He gets flies off the handle

for little things.

Okay.

It is a nice house.

I mean, is it worth

staying here though?

It's all we have

and we can't afford to leave.

Monette, listening to you,

it's breaking my heart

hearing what you guys

are going through

especially

with your granddaughter.

How are you holding up?

I'm very, very tired.

I don't feel like I've slept

for five years.

And you believe

it's the paranormal?

Absolutely.

Something's sucking the life

out of me

and changing the quality

of my existence.

-[crickets chirping]

-[ominous music playing]

[Amy]

So, there's been a guy around.

I think he's like

in his s age-wise.

He likes to just watch people,

watching, watching, watching.

He'll like get up on you.

He really does have

a pretty intense vibe.

Even if you aren't seeing him,

you would feel his presence,

so you feel kind of bothered.

When he's with you,

I think that

that living person

would change dramatically.

He's definitely a creeper,

just unnerving, unsettling.

[ominous music playing]

[Monette] This is the worst

room in the house.

Okay.

So tell me what's going on.

Well, there's like a menacing

stalker in this room.

It feels like somebody's

always behind you

wherever I go in this room.

Is this something

you could see

or is it just a presence?

No, I can't see it.

It's some type of presence,

but it's on you,

ready to jump at you

at any time.

You feel like

you're gonna be att*cked.

What else?

Things go missing around here

all the time.

Okay. Like what?

-I'll set my keys on the bed.

-Okay.

And I'll go wash my hands

or brush my teeth.

I'll come back and my keys

are gone.

Tear my room up.

I come back and they're right

where they were before.

Okay, I mean, I misplace stuff

all the time,

and I think they're there,

but they're not.

But you're saying it kind of

like when you come back,

-it's where it was originally?

-Exactly where it was,

and it's really

pissing me off.

[ominous music playing]

[door squeaking]

[Amy] The creeper.

He was a bad guy

when he was alive.

He likes to steal

and move things.

[Matthew]

Like what sort of things?

Like, oh, look, the remote,

oh, [bleep].

I'll make that disappear

for like a week.

[Steve] All right.

So what else is going on?

I have been choked before.

Tell me about that.

What happened?

My throat was shut,

stuck together inside.

I could not get any air

in or out.

This went on for a minute

and a half.

I really thought

I was gonna die.

You think the angle here

is to k*ll you

or k*ll everybody

in the house?

I do.

I absolutely do.

And I don't wanna be next.

[Amy] Seeing like

a living woman here.

This is, like, crazy at night.

Okay.

So I think this dead guy

is like really angry.

He can jump into adults.

Like, here's the thing.

It's like you can't

like swallow,

very hard to swallow

when he's in, you know,

near or in you.

You feel like

you can't breathe,

get lightheaded, and dizzy,

um, and then compression

on the chest.

And besides being sick,

it's also the rage.

[Matthew]

Do you think that others

might be in danger

because of this?

Yes, I think so.

Bad, bad, bad.

[ominous music playing]

[birds squawking]

I'm more concerned

about you guys

especially after talking

with your grandmother

about what's going on here.

Have you had experiences?

Yes.

One was actually in my

grandmother's room...

-[Steven] Okay.

-...where I felt

like I was being watched.

And in the bathroom there was

a black shadow walking past.

So when you said you had

the feeling of being watched,

did it feel like

it was just curiosity

or did you feel like it was,

you know, creepy?

Creepy.

Any other experiences?

Yes.

One in my bedroom.

I was sleeping.

I was having a nightmare

that I was being chased

by a stranger.

When I had woken up,

I was being choked

by what looked like the devil.

And I couldn't breathe

and I couldn't move

for a whole minute.

You sure it wasn't part

of your dream?

I'm sure. I was up

and I could feel

his weight on me,

and I felt his hands

around me.

And then after

the whole minute,

he disappeared.

I thought I was gonna die.

[woman] I'm seeing

like a little girl.

Something's happening.

I'm just hearing her.

Oh, my God, did you see that?

Oh, my God, did you see that?

Like I'm wondering

if it's that guy,

like the stalkery dude,

because like I'm not seeing

and I'm getting hit

from behind.

It's not good.

[Steve] Anything else?

Yes. Since we have moved

into this house,

my health

has really gone downhill.

Grandma mentioned that to me.

So what are we talking about?

My stomach has made it hard

for me to eat full meals.

It makes it to where

I cannot stand up

for more than five minutes.

Have you gone to a doctor

about what the hell

is going on with you?

Yes, I have.

They can't find anything wrong

with my stomach at all.

Well, grandma thinks

this place is trying

to k*ll you guys,

whatever's here.

Do you feel that way?

-Yes.

-Okay.

[woman] This one dead dude.

He's definitely a jumper.

Oh, my God.

[sighs] He's very irritating

though, this guy.

[Matthew] Why?

Because he, like, sits

in your stomach.

You can feel him

in your stomach.

It's heavy

and like it's sick.

[groaning]

[Matthew] So did he just

jump you now?

[woman] When he jumped

inside me, I got really dizzy,

I couldn't breathe.

[Matthew] So he has been

jumping you this whole time?

Yeah.

Hmm. Hmm.

[Steve] Well, Steven,

first off, I wanna extend

my condolences

on your father's passing.

-[Steven] Yeah.

-What type of guy was he?

He's the type of person

he'd give you his last dollar

or the shirt off his back.

I never see him smoke,

I never seen him...

Hear him cuss.

He never drank.

You must miss him?

Do you think he's here?

Yes. He's watching

over the house.

-I understand,

you're what, ?

-Yeah.

-And you had a heart att*ck?

-[Steven] Yeah.

In my feelings,

you're a young man

to have a heart att*ck.

Yeah, too young.

So that brings me to a point.

Monette was telling me about,

everybody in the house

having some rage issues

-actually, for lack

of a better word.

-Yeah, anger issues.

And particularly you as well.

What's that all about?

What's going on?

It just comes on

but I try to keep to myself.

When you do get angry,

how angry do you get?

I don't punch holes

in the walls anymore.

Anymore?

Yeah. I used to punch holes

in the walls

a long time ago.

The two of them does not know.

Okay.

[creaking]

[woman] Ooh, like a lot

of anger out here.

Lots of anger.

This is coming from a male.

I think he's alive.

He's an extremely tense

and stressed out person.

It's an unusual

amount of anger

that he has about...

his life situation.

He feels like [bleep]

is just out of control

in his life

and like going wrong.

He's very scared

and I see him like punching,

like, punching something.

[Matthew] Do you have

any idea how violent

this guy in the garage

might become

if he was being jumped?

That would not be

a good situation.

Do you think he might capable

of k*lling in that state.

Yes.

[Steve] Anything else?

-I was shoved

in my bedroom once.

-So what happened?

You know, I just fell back

and put a big old hole

from my lower back

in the wall.

So this ain't you

punching holes

-in the wall?

-Oh, no.

And telling everybody else

"You know what?

Something pushed me."

No, no, no.

I mean this is no joke.

And you could've fell

the wrong way

and I've seen

it a million times,

people accidently

break their neck

on a simple little fall.

With all the stuff

that's happening to you here,

why don't you just pack

and get the hell out?

Because I have

nowhere else to go.

[woman] I don't like this,

the creeper.

He is watching.

Watching what?

Whoever is in this room,

I think he doesn't like them

just standing there

and watching,

like...

he's like right here

and he's got his Kn*fe.

This makes me nervous.

He wants to k*ll them.

So that's not good.



[Steve] If you're looking

for lots of heat

and open land,

Victorville is the place

for you.

I was worried I wouldn't

find much history here.

But when I called

a local archivist,

she said the Native American

tribe that lived here

had a miserable time.

But it wasn't the settlers

who drove them out.

It was another tribe.

So Rebecca, I wanna thank you

for meeting me out here.

All right, so who was

the tribe that lived here?

Yeah. So they were called

the Serrano tribe

and they had a village

in this area called Topapaibit

and it extended

into your client's property.

All right. So I got to think

at some point they came

into contact

with settlers, right?

Definitely, the Spanish

started arriving

in the late s.

And since the Serrano

are a peaceful people,

they actually helped them

navigate the harsh

Mojave Desert early on.

So how did the Spanish

treat the tribe?

The Spanish saw the Serrano

as pagan and primitive.

So they started trying to

convert them to Christianity

-as soon as possible.

-Okay.

Some were persuaded

pretty easily

while others had to be forced

into it.

Okay. So when you say

forced into it,

what are we talking about?

They use tactics

like starving them

into submission.

Essentially, they would

destroy their crops

and their way of life.

Now, Rebecca, you mentioned

on the phone to me

that it wasn't the settlers

that drove the Serranos out,

but it was another tribe,

who were they?

So the Mojave tribe

also lived in this area.

They saw the Serrano

as enabling the Spanish.

They were disgusted

that so many of them

had converted to Christianity

and the Spanish way of life.

Okay. So how exactly

did the Mojave

get rid of the Serrano tribe?

November of ,

the Serrano in this area

got wind of a Mojave w*r party

that was coming

through the area.

So they actually abandoned

Topapaibit, their village,

in hopes to avoid v*olence.

But not all of them

escaped alive.

All right, so what happened?

So we know that

at least eight Serrano

didn't make it out

of this area.

So Rebecca when I was

at my client's house,

I noticed there's a lot

of tract housing

in the area.

Do you have any idea if

they've uncovered any bodies

when they did

the construction?

Not when they were putting

your client's house up.

But a rancher in the s

was plowing his land

and actually unearthed

Serrano skeletons

and it was in the news.

It was believed

that this mass burial site

was actually a cemetery

for Topapaibit.

How far is this

from my client's property?

So there's a marker on site

there today.

And it's about a mile

from your client's property.

-[Steve] All right.

So it's close.

-Yeah.

There is a bit of negative

energy here.

The sadness gets heavier.

Sure, sure, Sure.

Loss, loss, sad, sad.

I'm like, is it

[bleep] cursed?

There are a handful

of dead people

that are kind

of wandering around.

I do think something

occurred here.

There's something

with a curse, okay.

And that's why things are bad.

[Steve] So far,

I've got a client

who thinks the paranormal

k*lled her roommate

on property near a

Native American burial site,

but I wanna see

if there's anything else.

[dramatic music playing]

[Steve] Searching through

old records,

I found the su1c1de

that took place

right by Monet's house.

Maybe it's just

a coincidence,

but this guy k*lled himself

at the age of ,

nearly the exact same age

as Monet's roommate

when he d*ed.

In my experience,

it's very rare

for someone that age

to k*ll themselves.

I'm on my way

to meet a historian

to see if there's more

to this story.

So Dylan I wanna thank you

for helping me out

with this case.

So, the guy that k*lled

himself, who was he?

Uh, that'll be Robert Turner.

Here's a photo of him.

He was one of the key figures

in putting Victorville

on the map.

[Steve] I assume

he was married, kids?

Yeah, yeah, six kids,

wife Susan.

You said this guy helped

put the city on the map.

How'd he do that?

He was here at the right time.

He started one of the first

large cattle ranches locally.

And then he diversified

into businesses

like a hotel,

a general store, and mining.

He was the king of

the Victor Valley for a while.

So it sounds like

this guy's making money.

I mean, did he have

any shady deals going on?

There is evidence

of land speculation

and shady deals happening here

because he was the guy

in charge,

he pretty much named his price

when selling lots

and selling ranch land

-to people coming in.

-Okay.

So it was his way

or the highway?

-Yeah.

-All right.

So, Dylan

with the shady dealings

is that part of the reason

he kills himself?

No. He started to experience

personal tragedies.

He lost his youngest son,

who was age four

to undisclosed causes.

And then in ,

he lost another son.

This is Frank and Frank

ran the general store.

[Steve] How old was this guy

when he d*ed?

[Dylan] Frank was .

Do we know what he d*ed from?

We don't know.

That's a local mystery.

The final blow was the loss

of his wife in .

[Steve]

Let's get to the su1c1de.

I mean, what happened?

[Dylan] So in .

He's -years-old.

He's living on

the family cattle ranch.

This is about a mile

from your client's property.

He takes this. caliber

Winchester lever-action

and he positions it

against the floor,

the butt against the floor,

and the muzzle of the g*n

into his chest

and discharges the firearm

into his body.

[Steve] Eighty-two-years-old.

You don't hear

a lot of -year-olds

committing su1c1de.

When you're a man

of this character

and you've done all of this

and you've built a city,

decrepitude and old age,

it may not be

the easiest thing to swallow.

[ominous music playing]

[Amy] The creeper guy

keeps following me.

I'd put him maybe .

I think he was pretty bad,

devious, like, scoundrel.

I feel like he robbed people.

[ominous music playing]

Okay.

So I did just hear a g*nsh*t.

[Matthew] What's going on?

I got a su1c1de.

Pretty sure it was a man.

I just feel

really stressed out.

[ominous music playing]

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[ominous music playing]

[Steve] I was driving around

Monet's neighborhood

and drove right by

a huge prison.

Turns out the place

opened in .

And there's already been

a lot of deaths

behind those walls.

I've tracked on

a former inmate

who is gonna talk to me

about his experiences there.

Says it gives him nightmares

to this day.

[ominous music playing]

[Steve] JC, appreciate you

meeting with me.

So I got to ask you

a question,

how did you wind up

in Victorville?

I ended up there

on a violation.

My original case was, uh,

distribution of cocaine.

-Okay.

-Went in,

did my time, got out.

And I was actually

at a pool party.

Everybody was smoking weed.

So I was, like,

decided to take a little

hit off a joint.

-Okay.

-Next day, my PO calls me.

So I went in,

they arrested me right there

and then in the office.

So somebody dropped

a dime on you

without a doubt. [laughs]

I don't wanna think about it.

But, man, I wouldn't put it

past nobody.

So when you got there.

I mean, you have been

in prison before.

So I'm curious.

What was your impression

when you walked in?

I mean, I've been to prison

in Mexico.

And I've seen some

pretty wild stuff.

When I got there, uh,

the energy I felt is bad.

So what kind of things

did you see

when you were there?

I mean, walking in the door.

Somebody had already

got k*lled.

So as soon as we walked

into the kitchen,

they were gonna feed us,

there was blood

all over the wall.

-Okay.

-On the floor, and handprints,

bloody handprints

all over the wall.

And, uh, I was like,

holy [bleep]

like, what am I doing

back again?

So you first day there

and this is what

you're seeing?

Yeah.

I've heard it's been

called victim zone.

-Yeah.

-I mean, I know the deal,

been... I was on the job long

enough to know what goes on.

But how did you survive

as far as tactically inside?

v*olence and knives, man.

Do you know how many homicides

that have been there

since it opened?

-Total of eight.

-Okay.

Any of those eight

stand out to you?

In ,

a guy got stabbed to death

over a couple

bucks of tobacco.

-Okay.

-People might say that

that's like little,

but in there, it's a lot.

Okay.

Anything else that stood out?

In

there was two cellmates

that got k*lled in their cell.

It was never really

pinned on nobody.

They don't know who did it.

I've heard of a lot

of homicides in jail,

but it's the first time,

a double,

-inside the same cell.

-Yeah.

So I know a lot of things

haunt me.

Does that prison

still haunt you?

Sometimes, you know,

I hadn't...

I hadn't slept for years.

And, uh, I just barely

started sleeping

a couple days ago.

I'm glad to hear that.

[ominous music playing]

[Amy]

I saw all of these people.

They'd stood up

from the earth,

and there was probably

about .

They are wanderers.

And they are

looking for help.

And what I was told was that

these were m*rder victims

who knew too much.

But we're spanning like

several decades.

[ominous music playing]

[Amy] I saw a lot of

disturbing things on my walk.

But the creeper

concerns me the most.

He has a hat on

and it's just kind of like

b*at up.

He had tan skin,

dark hair to his neck.

His lips are rounded.

There's no points

or anything very rounded.

Next, I described the creeper

jumping a living man

in the garage.

I wanna show

like the dead guy,

like, going into the stomach

of this living guy.

I want to show

his face enraged.

Because that's what this guy,

like, brings out in him, rage.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

[ominous music playing]



[ominous music playing]

[Steve] Now that Amy and I

have completed

our investigations,

we're ready to reveal

our findings to each other

and our clients

for the first time.

Guys, I'd like you

to meet Amy,

she's gonna be doing

the reveal from another room

so she can concentrate

on your case

as well as the dead

without any distractions.

Amy, I want you to meet

the three people

who live in this house.

This is Monette.

She's the one that

called us in.

This is her granddaughter

Paije who's .

And this is Steven,

who is a family friend

and the co-owner of the house.

Monette and Paije

are terrified

and think that whatever's here

is evil and wants to k*ll.

So, unless Amy's got

some questions for you guys,

uh, she'll tell us

about her walk.

When I first got here,

the feelings that I got

were extreme sadness,

and that just kind of

permeates this area,

which indicated to me that

there had been

some type of substantial loss.

The living here may be prone

to having depressive episodes

and feeling lost.

I've never actually been one

to be depressed.

But I have been

since I moved here.

It's probably a sh*t

in the dark,

but there's something

you probably should

know about,

that came up from research.

This land was

originally settled

by the Serrano Indians.

Now their village

actually extended

to your property here.

In s,

the Spanish settlers came,

they saw that tribe

as being primitive

and started converting them

to Christianity.

Anyone who resisted

was tortured.

Oh.

So eventually they got driven

out of this area,

but not by

the Spanish settlers

by the neighboring

Mojave tribe.

Now in , a local farmer

was plowing his land,

about a mile from here.

He stumbled onto

a Serrano burial site,

and there was remains

of people.

Now I got a photo of it.

It's kind of sad to look at.

Now do you think the sadness

might've came from this tribe?

Mmm-hmm. Yeah.

[Steve] So what else?

What I feel is

affecting you the most

and is the biggest

problem here,

there is one very conscious,

pretty dangerous dead guy

who is here.

I called him the creeper

because he likes

to watch people.

He likes to

get right up on you,

like, almost to where

he's at your back

and, like, his face

is right here.

One time when I was

in my grandma's room,

I felt like

I was being watched.

And then out of nowhere,

there was a shadow

in my grandma's room

walking past the doorway.

And there was no way

it was coming

from the outside, correct?

No.

His thing, you know,

he loves to steal things.

Something as stupid

as, like, he would take,

you know, a remote control.

And, like, hide it

for like a week.

And then you would find it

exactly where you put it.

Wow. It's pretty amazing.

Sadly, it's exactly

like she said,

I'll have my keys

sitting on my bed.

And I'll go wash my hands

or brush my teeth,

come back,

the keys are absolutely gone.

I go to look for a spare,

and there they are

sitting in the exact

same spot.

So absolutely irritating

beyond belief.

Any idea who this guy

might have been

when he was alive?

[Amy] He was from way back.

I kept hearing

for some reason,

definitely got the impression

that he wasn't a great guy

when he was alive.

He liked to rob people.

I just got that

he was a scoundrel

and that he was very devious.

So I think he was just

a criminal.

He also loves knives.

He's obsessed with them.

His death was not great.

It was something like choking.

-He couldn't breathe.

-Okay.

I mean, it's... For me,

it's not a lot to go on.

But one of the things

you were saying

especially the plot,

had me thinking

of one of the city's

founding fathers.

His name was Robert Turner.

And he came here

from Pennsylvania

in the s.

Robert built a very successful

cattle ranch

less than a mile

from your house here.

But according to the expert

I spoke to,

he wasn't that good of a guy.

He made some shady deals,

but he also suffered

from some personal tragedies.

He lost his four-year-old son

in

after that happened,

his -year-old son

dropped dead

of unknown causes in .

I got a picture of the son.

Now the biggest blow

to this guy came in

when Turner's wife d*ed

after an illness.

Now this was all too much

for Turner.

In , he took a. r*fle,

put it against his body,

basically in his chest,

blew his chest out.

Now, I've seen

what a. r*fle

could do to somebody

that close,

it must have been a mess.

Now I got a photo of this guy.

Was there any way

that this guy

could be the creeper?

I had a sketch of the person

I encountered.

[tense music playing]

Oh, yeah, this looks

nothing like the two guys

I just showed you.

He's a miserable looking

son of a bitch, isn't he?

[Steven] Wow.

-[Paije] Very scary.

-[Monette] It's creepy.

[Steve] You know,

this was a ranch years ago.

This place is filled

with cowboys and stuff

and this... Could this guy

have been maybe a ranch hand

that was a drifter

that came through?

That could be. Yeah.

Okay, So we don't know

who this creeper guy is,

but you did say

he was dangerous.

So what does he do?

He can jump into

the body of living people.

He did it to me

during the walk.

[ominous music playing]

[Matthew] So did he just

jump you now?

I felt sick, dizzy,

couldn't breathe.

And I felt like

I couldn't swallow.

This is something that

the living here

could experience.

Are you okay, sweetie?

-Can I...

-[Steve] Yeah, sure. Go ahead.

You okay?

-[Monette] Love bug.

-[Paije] Yeah.

-[Monette] Are you okay?

-[Paije] Yeah.

[Monette speaking]

[Paije speaking

[Monette speaking]

[Paije speaking]

-[Monette speaking]

-[Paije speaking]

[Monette speaking]

-You okay?

-Yeah.

-[Steve] You okay, sweetie?

-Mmm-hmm. Yeah.

Paije, when you see that

what's going through

your mind?

One night,

I was having a nightmare.

And it was a stranger

that was choking me.

When I had woken up,

this stranger had turned

into the devil.

And I couldn't breathe

for a good minute.

I felt his weight

on top of my chest.

And he was just

sitting on top of me,

choking me and laughing at me.

And then after one minute,

he disappeared.

Come here. Listen to me.

Listen to me.

It's gonna be okay, all right?

I'm not going anywhere.

Nobody's gonna leave here.

We're gonna find

out what the hell

to do with this guy.

I'm gonna get rid of him,

okay?

-[Paije] Okay.

-[Steve] All right.

Can I get your jacket,

grandma?

So I could get this cold

off of me?

-[Steve] Yeah, sure.

-[Monette] Yeah.

-Is that better? Felt better?

-Yeah. Mmm-hmm.

So talking about being choked.

You had the same...

Something similar

happened to you?

Yes, I woke up and it felt

as though fingers had squeezed

-the inside of my throat shut.

-Mmm-hmm.

I don't know how long it was,

but to me,

it was like an eternity.

Super scary,

and I thought that was it.

It's a possibility

that you were experiencing

what he went through

when he d*ed.

Another thing about this guy,

he can make you very sick.

When he jumped me,

I felt this like weight

in my stomach.

And, like,

it was so uncomfortable.

You should know that

everybody here

has health issues

and they're sick

and they blame it all

on the paranormal.

Start with you, Paije.

You told me all about that.

I get a lot of pain

in my stomach

to where I just lay in bed

all day.

I'm usually cranky

when it happens.

You've had issues before.

She's a brain cancer survivor.

She's still being checked

every so often.

Yes, but they haven't found

anything wrong

with my stomach.

It's been three years

and still nothing on it.

Now, Monette,

you got health issues?

Right now,

I have broken bones in my feet

and my ankles

that I knew nothing about

nor how I got them.

Yeah, I've had a heart att*ck

and didn't know

I had one and...

-You're only .

-Yeah.

Amy, there's something else

you should know.

Steven's dad

d*ed of a heart att*ck

when he lived here.

So I'm gonna tell Amy

why you think

it's the paranormal

that k*lled him.

Because this man never smoked,

or drank,

and he was a Christian man,

very godly man.

[Steve] This is a picture

of him right here.

[Monette] Yes.

[Steve] Steven thinks

he's still here.

What do you think, Amy?

I don't think

he's here anymore,

which is great.

That's awesome.

You feel better that

your dad's moved on?

Yeah.

He had a one way ticket

to heaven.

[ominous music playing]

[Steve]

So, Amy, this dead guy,

does he do anything else?

When he jumps people,

he will heighten

their emotions.

So if you're prone to anger,

or if you're prone to sadness,

or whatever,

he'll make that tenfold.

I saw an incident

in the garage

where this person,

this male, was so angry

and very upset

about his life situation.

And he was thinking that

he was cursed or something

because things were always

going so bad.

And I saw the dead guy

jump into him.

But I did have

a sketch done of this.

[ominous music playing]

[Steven] Oh, jeez.

[Paije] It looks like Steven.

[Monette]

Makes perfect sense to me.

That is amazing.

Do you recall ever

being in the garage

and getting mental like that?

Yeah, that's... Yeah.

My fear is that

if you jumped a living person

who was in a state,

he could make that

person violent.

He might be able to make that

person k*ll someone.

[ominous music playing]

Now that makes me

extremely concerned.

I feel very uncomfortable.

That explains a lot to me.

And that actually

pisses me off.

Very scary.

[ominous music playing]



[ominous music playing]

[Steve] So you guys thought

you had a demon in the house.

Good news is you don't.

Bad news is this creeper guy

might as well

have been a demon.

Now the question

is can you get rid

of this [bleep]

and get back to a normal life?

And if so,

what's that gonna take?

For that answer,

I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.

[ominous music playing]

So there's, like, good news

and then there's bad news.

As far as the dead guy

is concerned,

there is something that

can be done

to get rid of him

by people, a team,

that I would be

putting together

would come here.

They're kind of

a mixed bag of people,

psychics, mediums,

pagans, Satanists,

you know, the whole nine.

The first thing

that they would do is

what's called a cord cutting

between you guys and him.

Then a shaman

will actually be removing him,

the dead guy,

from this situation.

The bad news is that this area

is really, really,

really thick

with this awful

residual energy.

The problem is, is that...

you can't get rid of this.

So in order for you

to stay here,

you would literally have to

do cleansings of your home,

and this would have

to be something you did

pretty much on a daily basis.

It's up to you.

If that's something

you want to take on.

Her bad news was just as good

as her good news for me.

[laughs] Okay. Good.

A billion pounds

lifted off my shoulders

right now.

Oh, good.

Paije, you feel better

about it?

Yes. I do.

We could get all the negative

and depression out.

Great.

-How about you, big guy?

-Oh, yeah, definitely.

Get this, you know,

evil out of here.

I'm feeling really blessed

and ready to

get back to normal.

Yes, I'm looking forward

to you guys

getting back to that.

-I feel lighter.

-[Steve] Good.

I really do.

Monette, Paije, and Steven

have suffered long enough.

I really hope

they follow my advice

and cleanse their house

of negative energy,

as well as work with a shaman

to remove the creeper.

If they do, I'm confident

they can live in

their home peacefully

for many years to come.

[ominous music playing]
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