14x12 - Special Investigation: The Haunting of Flagstaff

[bunniefuu]

[Amy] He's writing out names

of the people he hates.

He does follow people home

and he makes people sick.

Every single person

that I have working with me

right now

has had something happen.

I'm just worried that it could

follow me home,

hurt someone I love...

[Amy] He can go anywhere

to anyone at any time.

Not good.

If you're okay with it,

maybe we expand

our investigation

and do another walk.

[Amy] I'm seeing skeletons.

They're stacked

on top of each other.

Body parts

were actually raining down

from the sky.

One of the things

that I saw him doing

-was actually eating

a human heart.

-[audience gasps]

[Amy] He still believes

that this is his town.

He wants it back.

He wants the person dead.

My name is Amy Allan.

[groans]

I see dead people.

I saw a winged creature.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

This person

feels like a monster.

But there's only one way

to know if my findings

are real.

They are sucking the life

out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DiSchiavi.

I'm a retired New York City

homicide detective.

So how many bodies

are we talking?

And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But Steve and I never speak.

We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

-You're not gonna like this.

-[gasps]

When we uncover

if it's safe for you

to stay...

I'm sorry.

I need to take a break.

...or time to get out.

It wants inside the house

'cause it wants to k*ll you.

[gasps]

[Steve] Amy and I got called

into Flagstaff

a couple of weeks ago

to help a business

that was struggling

with the paranormal.

Little did we know,

at the time,

that the entire freakin' town

was haunted.

So we decided to stay

and expand our investigation

and, for the first time,

try to help an entire city.

Tonight, you'll find out

what's really going on

in your town

and what you can do about it.

But first, we're gonna start

from the very beginning,

from when Amy and I

first got here.

[Steve] I got a desperate call

from a woman named Jessica

who runs a crystal shop

that's been in her family

for three generations.

But now, she's scared.

Scared for her employees,

her customers and herself.

It's gotten really bad.

Every single one

of my employees has a story.

I'm afraid that everything

is gonna get worse.

[Steve] Now she told me

activities have gotten so bad,

if we can't help,

she may have

to shut the place down.

I hope Amy and I

can figure out how to fix it.

[car door opens]

[Amy] I see this dead woman.

She is wearing a bride's dress

and a long veil.

We start holding hands.

And then she jumps up

on my back and she gets

all [bleep] evil looking

and then I'm like, oh, damn.

I'm like, she's [bleep]

with people.

So she's not all good.

So Jessica,

this is a really nice shop

you've got here

and great little town.

Um, what the hell's going on?

You didn't sound good

on the phone when we spoke.

We've just been having

way too many things happening.

And now, my staff is scared.

So I can imagine

you're probably worried

about your customers as well.

Absolutely. There's a lot

of very fragile, sharp things

in this store.

So I'm definitely worried

about their safety too.

All your employees

having experiences

or is it just you?

Every single person

that I have working for me

right now

has had something happen.

What part of the store

is the worst

for your employees

and yourself?

I'd definitely say

it's the basement.

-[Steve] Okay.

-[Jessica] It always feels

really creepy down there.

There is a series of tunnels

that, kind of, connects

all of downtown...

-Really?

-...that also connects

to our basement.

-[Steve] Tunnels?

-Mmm-hmm.

That's interesting.

That's something

I'm gonna look into.

All right, so let's start

with basics.

How long

have you owned the shop?

It's been in my family

for years.

I was raised in the store,

raised with this business.

So, um, it's part of who I am.

You know,

I have two young kids.

I want them to feel

like they're safe in here

as well.

Okay.

So, if you can, give me a list

of what you guys

are experiencing.

Footsteps and voices,

we have things

flying off the shelf.

We always feel

like we're being watched.

And we're seeing apparitions.

Are you having experiences

any place else but the shop?

I have experiences

pretty much everywhere

in Flagstaff.

[Steve] Okay,

that's interesting.

Have you ever tried

to bring somebody in

to try to get rid

of what's here?

No, but I do

some of my own things.

-Like what?

-Every single time

I walk in that door,

I kind of say out

into the space,

"Please leave me alone."

I also do some smudging

with white sage.

Has the smudging

and you talking

out loud helped?

-No.

-What are you hoping

we can do for you?

I really wanna know

what's here,

why they're here,

and essentially,

how to either get rid of them

or, at least, appease them

so that they aren't harassing

my staff on a daily basis.

[Amy] I'm seeing

this flat looking shadow guy.

He's extremely tall,

very wide.

He's got a hat

and a suit, very flat...

...flat against a wall,

a wall shadow.

And he truly, absolutely feels

he's untouchable.

He came and took everything

from everyone.

He hurt and harmed so many,

I think people have been

trying to get rid of him

for a long time.

And ain't nothing worked.

He's, like, kind of losing

his humanity at this point.

This is strange.

I see him eating something.

He's eating a [scoffs]

a human heart

and it was, apparently,

Native American.

He can go anywhere,

to any one, at any time.

Not good.

[train whistle blows]

[Steve] What's going on here?

-Well, our basement

is right back there.

-[Steve] Okay.

[Jessica] And it's where

most of us see apparitions

or shadow figures.

The shadow figures,

can you describe

what it looks like?

It doesn't really

have any shape.

-Okay.

-It just looks

like something black

and moving at my...

In my peripheral vision.

Do you have any windows

in the basement

from the outside?

-No.

-All right. So nobody can be

casting a shadow from outside?

-No.

-Okay. So, anything else?

Sometimes, merchandise

just flies off the shelf.

So, I gotta ask you,

I felt when those trains

went by here,

it's right across the street.

-[Jessica] Mmm-hmm.

-[Steve] Is it possible

the train's causing

some of the stuff to fall off?

No, I mean,

this building is old and it...

But it doesn't shake

when the trains go by.

Okay, so anything else?

I never get migraines, ever.

And, um, when I've been

coming into the store

these last couple of days,

it's just been

these pulsing migraines

that don't go away

unless I leave the building.

[Steve] Interesting, okay.

What are you hoping

you can get

out of this investigation?

It's a family business.

This business

means the world to me,

to my parents

and I really would love

to be able to pass

this business on to my kids.

And that I feel safe

to pass it on to them,

so that we can continue this

for as many generations

as we can do it.

[Amy] There's a guy.

He seems to be recent.

And so I think

that he used to work here.

He's very, like, ADHD.

He's kind of like

all over the [bleep] place.

He's making my head hurt, too.

I'm getting, like,

really sharp head pain

um, with him.

Uh, and I think the living,

they could get headaches

in this area.

And also, uh, they become

very scattered up in this area

like, they couldn't...

Can't focus, can't keep track

of their thoughts.

People would get very,

very drained around town.

He does do a lot

of physical stuff in here.

He's, like, in the stuff.

He's, like, messing

with things.

It's almost like

he's trying to, like,

interact with people.

They might feel, like, pats

or pressure on their backs,

shoulders, arms...

...which, I guess,

would freak them out.

[Steve] So, Brittany, how long

have you been working here?

On and off

for the past three years.

I was talking to Jessica

and it sounds

like you guys have

a paranormal problem here.

-You agree with that?

-I would agree with that.

I feel like it's gotten worse,

over the years.

So are there experiences

you could tell me about?

Yeah. I came in to open

one morning

and there was journals

thrown across the floor

off of one of the shelves.

-[Steve] Okay.

-I do have a picture of that,

actually.

[Steve] Looking at that photo,

it seems pretty aggressive.

What do you think happened?

I feel as though

there is a ghost here

that is a man.

-Okay.

-Um, and I think

that he is the one

that throws things

off the shelf.

All right. What else

can you tell me?

The faucet turns on

in the bathroom on its own.

Is it possible

that maybe a co-worker

just left it on by accident,

-'cause I do it all the time.

-[Brittany] I don't think so.

I've never had

any of the girls

leave the faucet on.

Does it freak you out?

It scares me, yeah.

Okay.

[Amy whispering] Okay.

The flat dude,

I see him bothering people

around the bathroom.

I'm, like, seeing, uh, women

use, uh, the restroom.

Very creepy.

I don't know how

they're experiencing this.

Uh, like, I don't know

if they're seeing

the shadow figure,

or if they're feeling anything

on them?

Like, I'm hearing

the women, like,

"Get out of here!

Get out of here!

Leave me alone.

Leave me alone.

Get out of here!

Leave me alone."

She's very angry.

I see her hitting her legs

and then she's saying,

"Get out of here!

Get out of here!

Leave me alone.

Leave me alone."

[indistinct whispering]



[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] So, Jordan,

I was talking to Jessica,

who owns the place,

and she was saying

the staff

were pretty scared

about the stuff

that's going on here.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's definitely been kind of

an eerie place to work.

We've all had experiences.

So she mentioned this basement

in particular.

Yeah. The basement is

kind of where the most of us

don't wanna be.

Okay, so can you tell me

about some of the experiences

you've had?

So, the other day

I was vacuuming.

And I went to go forward

and, all of a sudden,

I was stuck in place

like someone was holding it

from behind me.

Can you show me

how tough it was for you to...

All right, so,

give me your arm.

Oh! Okay,

so it was pretty strong.

It was significantly, like,

not moving.

Sometimes the brush

on the vacuum can get stuck

on the fibers

in the rug,

was that what happened

with the...

Well, we do have carpet,

but I was doing the wood

at this time.

-[Steve] Okay, so--

-So it wasn't getting stuck.

Okay. So anything else?

[Jordan] When I was down here,

um, I saw, like,

a reflection of, like,

a shadow behind me.

It felt very, like,

engulfing, like,

just all around me.

All right. You must have

crapped yourself, I mean--

I was terrified

when that happened.

What do you think

whatever's here wants?

It wants its space back.

It wants, maybe even,

like, revenge.

-It just--

-[Steve] Hmm.

-We're not welcome here

by that particular spirit.

-[Steve] Okay.

[Amy] I don't wanna

go down there.

Okay. I don't honestly know

why I'm hesitant.

I just felt a press.

I don't like it, though,

I don't like it.

The flat looking shadow guy

hates when people

come down here.

He's malignant. He tries to...

...cause problems.

Anybody he doesn't like,

he tries to take them down.

He can push people.

And he's like, pushing people

the [bleep] out of here.

When he's in this area,

he likes to hang out

down here.

And he, like, plots and plans.

He's writing out names

of people he hates,

people he wants to do harm to,

that's what he does,

he does that wide circle,

a little wide circle.

And I think this might be

one of the [bleep] places.

So Adalyn, Jessica was saying

there's a lot of paranormal

activity in the shop.

-Now, do you agree with that?

-Yes.

-For sure.

-Okay.

-So you've had experiences,

obviously, right?

-Mmm-hmm.

I just feel watched

all the time.

How does it feel to you,

what kind of feeling is it?

It's just like

someone is boring their eyes

into the back of your head.

Feels like someone

wants me to know

that they're there.

-Okay. Is it intimidating

for you?

-[Adalyn] Yes.

It's very scary

and makes me

not want to be down here.

All right, so is there

anything else?

Awful feeling of sickness

that I get

when I'm down here.

All right.

Describe the feeling for me.

Where my heart

drops to my stomach,

it's dread, it makes me

feel like I'm gonna throw up.

So there's a lot of activity

in this place.

Uh, do you think it's possible

somebody can get hurt

from it?

I would just worry

that if the spirit

did get angry,

that it could follow me home,

hurt someone I love,

or just get mad enough

to the point

where things get ugly.

Okay.

The flat looking shadow guy

did feel like,

uh, that people had seen him.

You know, 'cause

when he's in the shadow form,

he's this big guy.

He don't wanna be bothered.

And he does get

all [bleep] psycho.

I think he goes to other

[bleep] places that he thinks

he [bleep] owns.

He does follow people home.

And he makes people sick.

And he will go home with them.

He will make them sicker

and sicker and sicker.

I don't feel good. [gasps]

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] So, Jessica's business

is in an older building.

Figured there had

to be some history to it.

Turns out,

one of the original owners

was a controversial guy.

I'm heading over

to meet a local professor

who tells me he lived fast,

d*ed young,

and made a lot of money

and enemies along the way.

[Steve] Well, Professor,

thanks for helping me out

with this case.

I appreciate it.

Let's start at the top.

What do we know

about this guy?

So his name is James Vail.

And he came here from Ohio

in the early s.

He was just in his twenties

and he ends up

becoming a bartender

at the saloon that's located

right on the same premises

as your client's business.

So it was a saloon

at one point

and he worked there.

Exactly.

So now, you mentioned

on the phone, Professor,

this kid made a lot of money,

um, how'd he do that

bartending?

Well, James Vail took a gamble

and he bought the saloon.

And that went really well

for a while

until a big tragedy broke out

across the town.

Okay, so the tragedy.

What happened?

So, in ,

there was a huge fire

across Flagstaff,

and so many of the buildings

were made out of wood.

And a lot of them b*rned down.

And James Vail's salon

was one of them.

-Okay.

-But he didn't give up.

And so he rebuilt the salon

out of brick.

You can see it right here.

[Steve] The building looks

a little different now.

[Karen] Right,

so some of the bricks

were stuccoed over

in the s.

-But it's original bricks

still?

-Exactly.

Wow. Okay.

[Amy] I saw some fire.

I think it's residual,

this place.

It was much, much smaller.

Some kind of like store,

way back in the day.

So, in this area

I'm feeling, like,

a lot of this panic.

I'm feeling...

I'm hearing people yelling.

And then I'm seeing,

like, the walls closing in.

All right, so this James Vail

kid, rebuilds his business

after this tragic fire.

How does it go after that?

He does a lot better

after he adds a brothel

to the saloon as well.

-Okay.

-I'm sure that didn't

go over well

with some of the conservative

folks in town.

But he does really well.

He makes a lot of money,

and is able to buy

a lot of real estate

around town,

including a cattle ranch.

So now he's got a ranch,

and the bar,

and the whorehouse. Okay.

So, now Professor,

you told me on the phone,

this kid d*ed young.

I mean, what happened?

Things start to go

really bad in .

He's out on his ranch,

during the summer.

He's in a wagon.

And he gets thrown

from the wagon

by his horses.

He hits the ground,

breaks his leg.

And so he's able

to keep the leg,

but he is permanently disabled

in a lot of pain.

All right, so he's got this

bad injury and he's disabled,

-but that's not what

k*lled him, right?

-That's right.

On April rd, ,

he goes downtown,

-buys a . revolver,

buys some b*ll*ts...

-[Steve] Okay.

...returns back to his ranch.

And just before high noon,

a sh*t rings out.

And they find James Vail dead,

with a b*llet hole

in the head.

He was just years old.

[Steve]

Why would he k*ll himself?

I think the pain

was just too much for him.

And I don't think

he saw a way out.

Well, you know, when it comes

to su1c1de,

nobody knows what's going

through people's heads.

[Amy] This flat looking

shadow guy is down here

a lot.

[man speaking]

Something like Jack.

I think this guy

owned a lot around here.

And I think he did

really bad [bleep].

I think, this might have been

one of the places he owned.

Or land he owned originally.

And I think, he thinks

he still does.

He wants it back.

[Steve] So far I have a client

who's worried sick

over the safety

of her employees

and customers,

on a property that was once

owned by a shady businessman,

who committed su1c1de.

But I wanna see

if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find out Jessica was right.

There really are tunnels

running beneath downtown

Flagstaff.

In fact, they run right

underneath her shop.

I'm heading over

to meet a woman who made

a documentary about them.

[Nikki] These tunnels

are used as infrastructure

for the city.

[Steve] She tells me

there were a lot of rumors

and myths about these tunnels.

And she wants to set

the record straight.

[Steve]

So, Nikki thanks for helping

me out in my investigation.

These tunnels.

I mean, what's the story

with them?

They run throughout

the downtown area,

here in Flagstaff.

-[Steve] Okay.

-And they connect several

businesses to one another.

All right.

So, when were they built?

They were built actually

in the late s.

Some of the tunnels

were used as dean tunnels.

They were only

about to . feet wide.

And the steam would then heat

the businesses downtown.

Okay. So now, what were

the other tunnels used for?

This is actually where

it gets a little bit

interesting

because some of the tunnels

were used as passageways.

So you could get

from one business

to the other.

But there are actually

a lot of rumors around town

of what actually went

on down there.

Okay, now you've piqued

my interest. Like what?

There was actually a rumor

of some illegal card games.

And any time the police

would come to raid it,

the owner would push

a button, and they would

escape.

Okay. So, any evidence

of that?

That's really just

a local myth, so there's

absolutely no evidence.

All right, so these bigger

tunnels, are they being

used at all?

In the 's,

Flagstaff actually did

a renovation

of the downtown area,

-which meant they sealed up

a lot of the tunnels.

-Okay.

[Nikki] But some of them

are actually still used today

for utility purposes.

All right, so what

are the chances

I can get down

and may see these tunnels.

[Nikki] You actually can't

get down there anymore.

It's actually pretty unsafe,

so I wouldn't recommend

going down there.

[Steve]

Okay, which makes sense.

Well, I appreciate you

helping me because now

I can tell facts from fiction

when it comes

to these tunnels.

[Amy] The flat shadow guy

is not alone down here.

There's a really weird looking

thing with him.

This is like they come

and go through here.

They come and go

through here. Okay, okay.

There's, like, walkways

or something.

So there's somewhere

they go there.

There's somewhere they

go there.

[sighs in exasperation]

There's a lot

going on down here.

I'm also seeing...

I am seeing bodies.

I'm seeing skeletons. Okay.

And they're, like, stacked.

They're stacked

on top of each other.

I'm, like, scared.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] Word got out

that we're investigating

Jessica's crystal shop.

Ever since then,

my phone's been blowing up.

A bunch of locals

are begging to meet

with me.

I've told them to meet me

at a local bar,

so they could tell me

what the hell's

going on in this town.

[indistinct conversation]

I own Victorian Moon

Antiques, uh, here

in downtown Flagstaff.

So I know you wanted

to talk to me

about some of the paranormal

stuff that's been going on.

Yeah. I see shadow figures

all the time.

So where are you seeing

these shadow figures?

I see them at my shop.

I see them at home.

I see them around town.

[Steve] The next thing I knew,

more and more people started

telling me they're seeing

things they can't explain.

I'm a bartender

in one of the breweries

here in town.

So what are you experiencing?

I'm seeing shadow figures

around town.

You getting any kind of vibe

off these shadow figures

you're seeing?

Um, well, it makes me anxious.

A little nervous.

Feels like there could be

some bad intent behind it.

[Steve] Now, seeing

shadow figures is one thing.

I get that a lot.

But what this local saw,

really surprised me.

I was in the basement

of the Downtown Diner.

And I saw a head.

-[Steve] Just a head?

-[woman] Just a head.

And it was just

kind of like a floating head?

Yeah. It didn't have anybody.

It had very, like,

pale-ish skin, had very long

dark hair, very big head.

And to me, it just had

a very eerie, whole presence

to its face.

So when you saw

this large head,

I mean, did you freeze

or what'd you do?

I looked at it

and I just ran away.

I ran right out of the diner.

I freaked out.

Okay.

[Amy] That strange looking

thing from the basement

goes all over town.

I'm trying to follow it.

It's telling me

it's here to help.

But I don't know

if I believe it.

[Matthew] Are people seeing

this any way?

[Amy] It can change

into any form

and has been mistaken

for other things.

And then, people are

freaking out.

A lot of panic.

[Steve]

I spent the whole night

at the bar,

with one local after another

coming by to tell

their bizarre stories.

[woman] I was at work once.

And the bathroom door

opened and slammed

just completely on its own.

So it really freaked me out.

[Steve] The more I heard,

the more concerned I got.

I run a tour company in town.

Ten years ago, I was spending

the night at one

of the hotels downtown,

and I woke up in the middle

of the night feeling

like I was being choked.

I was just gasping for air,

and I don't have asthma

or anything and I just

could not breathe.

Did you think

whatever it was,

was trying to k*ll you?

You know, I did.

[Steve] One thing is clear

to me.

Just about everyone

in Flagstaff is having

experiences.

And they're relieved

to finally get a chance

to talk about it.

I work at the local theater.

So you have experience

you wanna tell me about.

Uh, what do you have?

There's a dark energy

at the theater,

in the basement.

So, can you describe

this feeling for me?

Just feels angry,

like we're not wanted there.

So, with all the activity

that's going on

in town, do you think

somebody can get hurt?

I do.

[Amy] So that thing...

He says he comes in here

and he's helping people.

Oh, he's helping people

with the past, the present,

what's going on now.

What kind of time frame

are we talking about?

It says it's been here

forever.

It's not from the Earth.

Initially, when I saw it,

it was outside in the stars.

You know, I think

it's pretty immense.

-So, it's not just here.

-No, God no.

So does this thing operate

on a global scale?

[Amy] No. Just Flagstaff.

Mm-mm, no. It's this...

It's this area.

For sure, yeah.

[Steve] We were called in

to investigate activity

at a small family-run shop.

But it sounds to me

like the whole freaking town

is haunted.

So I don't like doing it,

but I've gotta break

the rules this time.

[Steve] Hey, thanks

for meeting with me.

I appreciate it.

So, [exhales sharply]

you know I haven't broken

protocol in years.

But we came to do

this one location

and people are coming

up to me one after the other

after the other,

telling me how

there's activity

throughout the whole downtown.

Yeah, I did get two things

that might be affecting

-the entire town.

-Really?

-[Amy] Yeah.

-So, I'm thinking,

if you're okay with it,

maybe we expand

our investigation

and do another walk.

-Okay.

-You down with that?

-Yeah. I'm absolutely open

to doing that.

-[Steve] All right. Cool.

Just be careful

'cause it sounds like

the whole freaking place

is haunted.

And you never know

what you're gonna

come up against.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] As soon as Amy and I

decide to expand

our investigation,

I got a call from a guy

who works at the Flagstaff

Visitor Center.

He heard I had been talking

to the locals

about the paranormal activity,

and said I have no idea

just how bad things are.

[Steve] So, Joshua,

when we spoke

on the phone,

you sounded pretty adamant

about talking to me.

Uh, what the hell's going on?

We're getting all kinds

of stories,

uh, from all the different

locations that we send

our visitors out to.

And some people are afraid

to work in certain places.

Some people may be afraid

to come visit us.

I hope you can figure out

what's here,

and what we can do

to keep everybody safe.

Have you had experiences

in town?

I have had, uh,

many experiences

here in town.

-You have?

-I have.

At the Visitor Center, uh,

we have a basement

and an attic.

It always feels like

someone's watching you.

Okay, so anything else?

We had a employee

at the Visitor Center

report getting locked

in the basement.

So what do you think

happened with this lock?

I've myself many times

have tried to debunk

how it would lock

from the inside.

And that door does not lock

from the inside.

I believe something

was holding the door closed.

It scared me pretty good.

[Steve]

It seems this entire town

is haunted.

Is there any other place

in town that sounds good

to check out?

A lot of stories, uh,

out of the Orpheum Theater.

[Steve] What are you hoping

we can do for you?

When people come here

and visit, we want them

to be safe.

You know, we really wanna

make sure that when

our guests come,

that we can send them out

to these places,

and there's nothing

that's going to attach

to them or go home with them.

[car door opens]

[Amy] I saw two things

on my first walk

that I believe are affecting

the entire town.

Tonight, I'm going to see

if that's really the case.

The same alien thing

that I got on my first walk,

showed up covered in leaves.

The flat looking shadow guy

is out here too.

[Matthew] What exactly

does he want?

He wants his places back.

[Matthew] What does that mean

to the living?

That he tries to get them out.

[Matthew] So he wants to get

everything back

that he had loaned?

Yes.

[Steve] Well, Susan.

Thanks for meeting with me.

I appreciate that.

So, [exhales sharply]

this is a really cool venue

you have here.

How old is this building?

-So, it was built

in .

-Wow.

-Okay.

-Operated

as a cinematic house.

And then,

in the winter of ,

due to a huge snowstorm,

the whole roof collapsed,

destroyed the building.

And so it had to be rebuilt

in .

So, I'm investigating

paranormal activity

throughout the whole downtown

area here.

Spoke to Joshua, and he said

you guys are having issues

as well. Is that true?

That is correct, yes.

Are there any experiences

you could tell me about?

Yeah, um, I tend to see

shadowy figures

from time to time.

I would see them

up in the curtains, and then

up into the balcony.

Okay, what do they look like?

They look human-like,

but more kind of shadowy

and moving quickly.

[Steve] Okay,

so anything else?

Sometimes, these lights

up in the truss would come on.

-[Steve] By themselves?

-[Susan] Yes.

Do you think somebody

broke in?

No [sighs]

because nobody would have

known how to turn them on.

-Okay.

-It's run through our

computerized lighting tracks.

So, it seems everywhere I go,

everybody's had

an experience.

-I mean, it sounds like

the whole town is haunted.

-Mmm-hmm.

-Do you think so?

-I definitely do.

I mean it has a long history,

and I've have heard

a lot of stories as well.

So I do think the town

has a haunted history

and culture.

[Amy] I'm seeing that woman

who's dressed

like a bride again.

Okay, so apparently

she spends a lot of time here.

So I'm getting

that she causes

a lot of problems

with people on the stage.

She... She... She... She...

She's very upset.

She does a lot

of bad things here.

She, uh, is climbing

on their backs.

I wonder, if they feel her,

uh... Literally a weight,

uh, uh, on their shoulders.

All of a sudden, feeling like

something really heavy

slammed onto them.

She can affect,

uh, electricity,

and she'll do it

on purpose to [bleeping] up.

I think if people see her,

they see her white,

misty [bleep]

and all this kind of stuff.

She kind of wants this

all to herself. ::. --] ::. align:right line:.%

[Steve] I understand

you used to work here.

I worked in the concession

stand at the front

of the building.

So I was talking to Susan,

that runs the place,

uh, and she thinks there's

a lot of activity here,

do you agree with that?

I do. I've definitely known

a lot of people who've had

some kind of experience here.

-Okay. And you as well?

-Me too. Yes.

I was about six months

pregnant, when I was working

here about years ago.

-[Steve] Okay.

-And I was moving, um,

some stuff

from one end of the building

to the other.

And something pushed me

from behind into a table.

Please tell me

you didn't get hurt.

I mean it hurt

when it happened,

but nothing happened

to, you know, my daughter

was fine.

-Everything was good? Okay.

-[Lisa] Yes.

-Hey, do me a favor and

show me how hard the push was.

-[Lisa] Okay.

-[Steve] Oh! Okay.

-[Lisa] Sorry.

When this happened,

what'd you do?

I ran outside

and started crying.

It felt like something

was trying to hurt me.

-So that was pretty

frightening for you.

-Yes.

Okay. Anything else?

Yeah, about a year and a half

ago, I came here

to see a show.

-Okay.

-My friend and I

were able to go backstage.

And as soon

as we got back there,

I had this feeling of,

we need to get out of here

like impending doom.

As soon as we left,

I felt fine.

-Obviously, you feel there's

paranormal activity here?

-Yes.

I think

the whole town's haunted.

How do you feel?

I agree with you %.

And in that time I've seen

people, good people,

do bad things.

So, what you're saying is

that the paranormal

in this town is actually...

-Could influence people?

-Yes, to do, like,

evil things.

Okay.

[Amy] Boo.

There's some good

dude up in here.

Wow, he's pissed, okay.

Ooh, Lordy.

With him and the living,

that's not a great thing.

They're feeling very anxious,

and very panicked.

Uh, but this is his anger,

this is how

they're interpreting

the anger.

I think people see him,

but it's just shadows

they hear.

Male shadow figure,

pretty big though.

He blows himself up,

so he gets really big.

Also, you can't breathe

around him.

Uh, that's something

with his death,

uh, when he was dying,

he couldn't breathe, [gasps].

He's like [gasps].

[exhales]

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] So, Sam,

thanks for meeting

with me, I appreciate it.

From what I understand,

your hotel has activity here.

Uh, but before we get to that,

this is a beautiful spot.

You are the owner, right?

[Sam] Right, my husband

and myself.

I'm assuming you know

some history about the place.

What can you tell me?

It was built

by John Weatherford,

as a general store in ,

and then he turned it

into a hotel in .

John Weatherford also built

the Orpheum Theater

next door.

So, I just came from this,

this guy had a real mark

on this town.

Yeah.

So, let's get

to the paranormal.

Have you had any experiences?

I have.

A gentleman stayed

with us once, uh, and wrote me

and said that the...

He got up in the morning,

looked through the window

of the ballroom, and he saw

a waif-like,

female type character

float across the room.

Now, did you question the guy,

if it could have been

maybe a hotel guest

-or something like that?

-I did, I wrote him back.

-[Steve] Okay

-And it was too early

in the morning.

It couldn't even have been

the housekeeping.

Okay, any other guest

experiences you could

tell me about?

Yes, a former employee

uh, that stayed with us,

said she woke up in the middle

of the night and had a couple

sitting on her bed.

It startled her,

and before she knew it,

they got up and they walked

through the door.

-Through the door?

-Through the door.

I mean, I'm a pretty

hardcore guy,

I think that would scare

the [bleep] out of me.

[Amy] There are a lot

of dead here.

I'm seeing this guy

playing the piano.

He was showing me a girl,

uh, that would hang out

with him

when he would play the piano.

So, they may hear

females talking.

Like I'm just getting flashes

of them.

So, possibly people

would see like that,

these flashes, like,

of these women.

So, Chelsea, I understand, uh,

you're the general

manager here.

-I am.

-From what I've heard,

this place is kind of haunted.

Yeah, actually, growing up

in this building,

there were two dead people

I saw all the time.

Tell me about the first one.

Well, there's a girl

by the name of Matilda,

that I used to play with

all the time, upstairs.

Okay, was she nice to you?

Did you guys get along?

She was.

She was, um, a very light

presence, very kind.

-So, what about the other one?

-His name was Algernon.

And, he lived in the basement.

He had a bit of a dark

presence to him,

almost evil.

I knew there was something

bad about him.

Did they move on, you think?

No,

they're definitely still here.

Why do you say that?

[Chelsea] Right when we are

re-opening the Gopher Hole,

we were doing a lot

of construction down there.

-[Steve] Okay.

-And we might have upset him.

I was shining a glass

and, uh, another one sh*t off

the drink rack and hit

a mirror right behind me,

and I knew that was him.

This glass was directed

at you?

Right past my face.

So, did anything else

like that ever happen?

-Actually, there is a bottle

in this actual room.

-Okay.

Right up there

and it fell off the top

of that ledge.

Did you see it fall?

From, uh, security cameras,

after the fact.

You have that available for me

to look at?

[Chelsea] I actually do.

Oh! Jeez.

Ooh, you're lucky somebody

wasn't standing there.

Let me ask you a question.

Anybody else you think

I should talk to about,

what's going on here?

Well, you could talk to Nancy,

down the street at the diner.

-And she's the owner?

-[Chelsea] She is.

-Okay.

-Mmm-hmm.

From what I could tell during

my investigations,

it seems like this whole town

is haunted, do you agree

with that?

I definitely do.

I mean, it's the Wild West.

-[Steve] Yeah.

-There's a lot of history here

in Flagstaff.

[Amy] There's one male,

uh, who's here often.

I think he was, like,

some kind of manager, maybe,

like the...

...s or 's?

I think people see him

because I think

he does stuff.

I feel like he tries

to guide people.

Tries to influence

their actions,

if they work here.

So, I think, like, maybe

he might influence people

to, like,

you know, clean that table.

But if they don't do

what he wants,

he can lash out.

Uh, so, that's interesting.

So, Nancy, I got

to tell you this is a great

old-school diner.

You know, it reminds me of me

growing up in Brooklyn,

it just, has that look to it,

and the feel.

Um, how long have you owned

the place?

My family's had it

for over years.

How important

is this place to you?

It's everything to me,

it's part of my family.

Chelsea at the hotel says

you have paranormal

activity here.

Yes. Mmm-hmm.

So, do me a favor

and tell me about what

you're experiencing.

Well, one of the first things

that happened,

I was in the basement

and there was

someone sweeping.

And, I could see

the full motion of it.

[Steve] Okay, so

an apparition, I assume?

Absolutely,

because when I turned around

-thinking I was going to talk

to a coworker...

-[Steve] Right.

...there was no one there.

Is there anything else?

I was rolling silverware

right there.

Nobody near me.

And I felt, on my shoulder...

...two taps.

And I looked and I looked

and I literally

turned a circle

because I could not...

I have goosebumps.

I couldn't...

There was nobody there.

-So that freaked you out,

I can tell.

-[Nancy] Oh, yes.

-And, it couldn't have been

drops of heavy water coming...

-[laughing] No.

-[Steve] Okay.

-No. No.

And, that's why I tapped you.

I was tapped.

So, if something

could do that,

what else could it do?

[Nancy] Exactly.

It kind of made me realize

that there's a lot more here

than I knew.

[Amy] That thing is here.

-That thing and that man.

-[Matthew] What're

you talking about?

[Allan] The alien thing

and the other dude.

The flat-looking shadow guy.

Okay, they're trying

to pull me outside.

Okay, okay.

It's all about them.

I'm seeing another

dead person in here.

He's a big guy.

Uh, so, I guess

his name is Bill?

I kind of feel, like,

at some point he owned

this place.

He'll come up and start

talking to people.

Living people.

He does tend

to move things about.

Ah, he's pretty good at that.

So, that's not good.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] This is the first time

we've investigated

an entire town.

Obviously, I'm not going

to be able

to find out everything

that's ever happened here.

So, I thought I'd start

by getting an overview

of Flagstaff's history.

I'm meeting a local historian

who told me the city has

always been plagued

by tragedy and bloodshed.

[Steve] So, Dre thanks

for coming out and meeting

with me, I appreciate that.

And, this is Arizona,

we all got to assume

Native American history

is pretty big here.

Absolutely.

So, let me ask you a question,

when did the white settlers

get here?

'Round s is when, uh,

those settlers started kind of

coming into the region.

Okay, so obviously the tribes

get driven out. What happened?

So, from about to ,

uh, that year period

becomes what's known

as the Yavapai Wars.

And, that's the US Army coming

in and kicking out most

of the Native tribes here.

Uh, relocating them,

making room for white settlers

to come in.

Okay, so it had

to be pretty brutal, I assume.

Ultimately, in ,

February th,

becomes what's known

as Exodus Day.

And, uh, that begins

the Apache Trail of Tears

where they force out

around Native peoples,

marching them miles

across a winter desert.

Uh, b*ating them

with whips, with chains,

they don't wanna go,

they leave 'em to die

on the side of the road.

So basically

it's a death march.

So, how many d*ed out of that

and change?

-Roughly people lost

their lives in that.

-Wow.

That's like almost

a third, right?

Jeez.

Around there.

[Amy] I am seeing one,

single Native American male.

He has one feather.

And behind him,

are all shadow figures.

He indicates

that they're all women

and children.

He says they're buried

in the ground.

He says we need help.

[Steve] Okay, so now

the Native Americans

are forced out.

What happens next?

So, around , settlers

start coming to the area.

But the town would

never really flourish

until the railway

was actually established.

Uh, just cutting right

through the middle of town

in the early s.

But that, came at a cost

of its own.

Okay, so what do you mean

by that?

Well, you know, many different

accidents happened.

The worst happened

in the summer of ,

when, uh, some blasting powder

actually went off prematurely.

Okay, so, how bad

was this blast?

According to the article,

actually, I have here,

seven people d*ed

and three people were maimed.

Uh, they say that body parts

were actually raining down

from the sky

when that happened.

[Steve] So, when you said

on the phone

that this town is plagued

with bloodshed and tragedy,

you weren't kidding.

Unfortunately, not.

Okay.

[Amy] I don't like this.

There's a bunch of men

down there and they're...

...in a lot of pain.

Damn, man, there's gotta

be at least of 'em.

They're laborers.

They're hurting.

, .

I think that the, uh,

living might have experiences

with them.

I think if they're around

in that area, they might

feel a lot of the pain.

[Steve] Just about

any city's gonna

have its share of murders.

But it turns out

that Flagstaff has a really

violent past.

I'm on my way to meet

a local true crime author

who says she can prove

it to me.

[Steve] Now, Susan,

you mentioned on the phone

that you wrote a book

about some homicides in town.

Tell me about that.

That was one

of the saddest chapters

in Flagstaff's history.

.

Happened just down the street

from the Orpheum.

[Steve] So, I did

a lot of interviews

there yesterday.

People having a lot

of problems

with the paranormal activity.

-Hmm.

-So, who are the players

in this m*rder?

That would have been

the Walkup family.

Um, Marie Walkup, -year-old

mother of four children.

-Okay.

-And her husband, JD Walkup,

a politician

and a man-about-town.

Okay, so what happened?

It was July , ,

JD was down in Phoenix.

Sometime that night,

Marie Walkup went

to the bedrooms

of her children,

taking an icepick and stabbed

each one in the heart,

and then strangled them.

-Oh.

-After that, she washed

their bodies

and put them back in bed

and pulled the covers up

to their chins.

How old were these kids?

Well, here are

their death certificates.

Daniel was , Rose was seven.

John was four and a half,

and Elizabeth

was about months.

All right, any idea what would

cause her to do this?

Well, everybody

has a different theory.

Does seem like she might have

had some depression.

She was isolated.

Her husband was gone

quite a bit of the time

and she had four children.

And sometime that night,

Marie Walkup sat in her house,

and took a pen to paper

and wrote four notes.

One of those notes

was to her husband,

it was printed in the paper

the next day, and it said,

"'Cause of my lack

of discipline,

the children are better off

to go this way."

Oh.

"Only grief would come

to them.

You are strong in faith,

never doubting.

Mercy, mercy to my people.

I have loved you

and I have failed."

All right, so now we got four

dead kids, babies,

uh, in the home,

what happens with her?

Well, she went

into the closet,

she got her husband's old

Army r*fle,

laid the g*n up

with the muzzle

against her chest,

and used her big toe

to pull the trigger

and sh*t herself.

There's a article about it.

[Steve] All right, so she

wasn't of sound mind,

this woman, obviously.

To this day, this is one

of the most disturbing murders

in Flagstaff's history.

[Amy] That woman

who's dressed like a bride

is wandering around in here.

She said she d*ed

a long time ago.

I hear s,

but I don't know

if that's her age

or the year around she d*ed?

I kind of wanna say su1c1de,

I kind of got the feeling,

that she was kind of being

forced to live, uh, not

how she wanted to.

Like she wanted to be,

like, free, you know,

footloose and fancy-free

and that wasn't gonna happen.

[Matthew] She doesn't like

people in the space,

any reason?

She feels like it's hers

and she should be here

and they shouldn't.

[indistinct whispering]



[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] Everyone out here

is seeing and hearing

strange stuff.

Now to me,

everything isn't paranormal.

Flagstaff is a mountain town,

it's , feet

above sea level.

Trust me, I feel it

every morning I'm here.

Now, from what

I've been reading,

mountain climbers sometimes

get hallucinations

from thin air.

So, I'm wondering

if that's what's

happening here.

I'm heading over to a doctor

who specializes

in altitude sickness,

and he's gonna put my theory

to the test.

[Steve] Well, Dr. Backhaus,

I appreciate you

helping me out

and meeting with me.

So my investigation in town,

I'm coming across

a ton of people

that are hearing things

and seeing things.

Now, this altitude

is kicking my ass.

Is it possible this altitude

could cause people

to see things?

Or hear things

that aren't there?

Yes, there are reports

of mountain climbers

who talk to people

that aren't even there.

Besides the hallucinations,

are there any other

side effects?

-Dizziness. It happens.

-Okay.

And then,

it could be confusion.

Okay, I've been here

a few days and I'm having

a couple of those myself.

-Yes.

-So, Doctor, I've brought

some witnesses

that I've spoken to,

who have been seeing

things and hearing things.

So, I understand you can run

a test,

to see if they're getting

hallucinations

from the altitude.

Yes.

The three test subjects

will be breathing in and out

of this altitude simulator. ::. --] ::. align:right line:.%

We'll start them

at , feet.

And if they're handling

it well,

we'll move them up

to , feet.

Yeah,

this is your blood oxygen

and this is your heart rate.

The first thing we'll test

is motor skills.

Oh.

Then, we'll test

their cognitive abilities.

Using flash cards,

we'll see if they're able

to select the word green.

Next, we'll see if they might

be having hallucinations.

I'll present them

with a mix of real people

and mannequins.

I'll ask them how many humans

they see.

[ticking]

All of them got it wrong.

Okay, so how'd these tests go?

Surprisingly,

with motor skills,

all three did well.

Okay, so what about

the second test?

For the cognitive skills,

two passed and one failed.

So, what about that last

perception test you did?

Well, the perception,

I was surprised.

All three failed.

They couldn't tell

the difference

between the humans

and the mannequins.

All right, so is it possible

from that last test you did

that they're not having

paranormal experiences

and it is the altitude?

No, the altitude here

is , feet.

-Okay.

-And two of the guys,

they had to go to , feet

for the changes to take place.

-Wow. That's high.

-Yes.

So, the tourists,

they think they're having

paranormal experiences,

but it might

just be the altitude.

Yes.

But, people that lived here

and are acclimated,

-there's no way

they're hallucinating.

-No.

Okay.

[Amy] This alien thing,

goes all over town.

It's a bit unusual to have

an alien

thing, running around.

Either in people's dreams,

or in their day-to-day

activities, telling them,

or showing them,

like, this or that's

going to happen.

This alien thing

can change forms

and people can see it

in a bunch of different ways.

[Matthew] Do you have

any idea why it shows itself

in different forms

to different people?

For those who can

see this thing,

it would come through

as something

that's positive

to that person.

[Amy] I saw a lot

of strange things

on my two walks,

but three really stood out.

First, the flat looking

shadow guy.

This man was super wrinkled.

Super, super thin.

Little, kind of baby nose.

Uh, baby lips.

Um, so the hair

is a lot thinner.

It's very wispy.

Next, I described the woman

who was dressed like a bride,

tormenting someone on stage

at the theater.

On the stage is, like,

one of the workers.

He was wearing a black shirt

with short sleeves.

There's a female

who is in a wedding dress.

She's on his back.

Her legs are over both

of his shoulders.

Describe her expression.

Her mouth, like, grew

really big

and she had, like, all these

jagged sharp teeth,

like, she was, like...

Finally, I described the angry

man in the theater

turning himself

into a huge shadow.

There was a male.

I saw his hands,

like, up in front of him.

Like whoa.

And he sees this huge

shadow figure.

Definitely a male,

you could tell.

Ridiculously broad shoulders

because this guy is, like,

really trying to intimidate

uh, this living guy.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] Now that Amy

and I have completed

our own investigations,

we're ready to reveal

our findings to each other

and our clients

for the first time.

So, Amy, I want you

to meet Joshua.

He, uh, works

at the Visitor Center in town

and knows just

about everybody here.

Um, this is Nancy.

She owns and runs

a local diner

and it's been in her family

for over years, right?

Right, years.

And this, are the residents

of Flagstaff.

Got too many

to introduce you to,

but you'll be hearing

from some of them

during the night.

Some people think

that whatever's here

is harmless.

But others think it's pretty

dangerous for everybody.

One thing everybody agrees on,

place is haunted.

They're looking forward

to hearing what's here

and what they can do

about it, so they can

remain safe.

So, unless Amy's got

some questions for you,

she'll tell us about her walk.

[Amy] Before I talk

about the entire town,

I want to go over

the biggest things I got

at the different locations

I went in to.

The first building,

from the first night,

I walked in and I actually

encountered a male.

He's extremely ADHD.

Uh, so this guy was, like,

talking nonstop,

moving around nonstop,

fussing with everything.

When he's doing that,

often, he does moves objects.

Because of his energy,

I got a really sharp

uh, headache.

And I'm curious, if anybody

up in that area has

had that kind of

experience as well,

with having sudden headaches.

And he also tries

to interact with people often

because he's a very touchy,

feely guy.

I was curious if people

had experienced

feeling like they're being

touched on the back,

on the arm, patted,

things like that.

Okay, well, that first

location you went to was, uh,

the crystal shop in town.

Uh, I know everything

was covered up,

um, while, when

you were there,

but I want to show you

what it looks like, when

it's not covered up.

[Amy] Interesting.

So, I want you to meet

the owner,

uh, it's Jessica,

she's right there.

Could you raise

your hand Jessica?

Hi.

I want to talk about some

stuff, we, uh, spoke about

in our interview.

So, whenever I call

on someone,

just head

to that table in the back

with the microphone.

Amy talked about the migraine,

can you tell Amy

about your migraine?

I never get migraines ever,

um, and right before you guys

got here,

um, for about two days,

I was getting these

really sharp migraines,

that would basically hit me,

as soon as I walked

in the door.

And then they started fading

away when I left for the day.

She mentioned

things getting...

...moved around. [chuckles]

We have stuff flying off

the shelf on a weekly basis.

Um, we've also had

experiences where,

um, it just looks

like somebody just swept

everything off of a shelf.

Jordan, can you do me a favor?

I'd like you to go up there.

I wanna talk about something.

Jordan works

at the crystal shop too.

Can you describe to Amy

what happened

when you were vacuuming

and got tugged.

[Jordan] So, I was vacuuming

one night

and I went to pull it back

and it was like, there

was resistance on the hose.

As if someone was holding it,

so I couldn't vacuum.

And there was nothing

that it caught on?

Nothing like that?

Yeah, it was over wood floor,

so it's not like it was

getting stuck on carpet.

There were no kinks

in the tubing.

Think that's that guy?

Yeah.

[Steve] Okay, so,

what else happened?

[Amy] The next walk...

Night, I started right here.

In the theater.

It was, like,

completely engulfed by rage.

And it was coming

from this dead guy.

He's extremely intense.

He doesn't want

to be disrespected,

or challenged in any way,

shape or form.

I didn't particularly

care for him,

and I felt like it was

a possibility

that people would,

uh, potentially feel a sudden

onset of panic back there.

Is Lisa out here?

So, this is, Lisa.

Um, she used to work here.

Do me a favor,

just tell her about

what you were feeling

in the back, that time.

My friend and I were here.

We were hanging out

with the band backstage,

after the show.

And we were

kind of right between

where the couches are

and where the stage is.

-[Amy] Yeah.

-And I was like,

we need to go, now.

We need to leave now.

-You described it, as what?

Impending doom?

-[Lisa] Yeah.

And then,

as soon as we did leave,

um, I didn't have

that feeling anymore.

Does he do anything else?

[Amy] Yes.

Then, I was suddenly inside

the body of a male.

A living person.

And, whoever this guy is,

the dead dude

does not like him.

And he comes in and engulfs

the entire room

as, like, this huge,

black, mass of a man,

uh, trying to intimidate

this living male.

I did have a sketch done

of being inside

that living male's body

and seeing what he saw.

[Steve] Hmm.

It's interesting.

So, this is what he portrays

himself as?

[Amy] Mmm.

Yeah, take a look

at that, guys.

I have...

Kind of got chills

all over my body right now.

[Steve] Joshua, I mean,

you noticed some stuff

going on here.

Does this surprise you?

Honestly, no.

It feels familiar.

[Steve] Hey, Susan. You here?

There she is.

Hi, I'm Susan,

with the Orpheum.

[Amy] Hi.

So, Sue, when she...

...talked about the shadows,

you mentioned that to me.

Do you mind describing

it to Amy, for her?

When I first started

working here,

every so often, when I would

walk from the back,

I felt like up in the curtains

I would see more

of a shadowy mass,

not defined

and there was no interaction.

You didn't get a good feeling

off of it, though.

No.

That sound like him?

Yes.

[Steve] Okay, so what's next?

[Amy] Then, I'm walking

up the street.

And there's, like, a railing.

so I just stopped

and looked down.

And there was, like,

all these men

who were being mistreated.

And here's what that part

of the walk looked like.

[Amy] I don't like this.

There's a bunch of men

down there.

And they're...

...in a lot of pain.

Damn, man. There's got to be

at least of them.

They're laborers.

They're hurting.

, .

[Steve] So, dead laborers

who were mistreated

around the s.

Think I have a pretty good

idea who you saw.

Now in , Flagstaff began

building a railway system.

And there were quite

a few accidents,

but the worst one happened

in .

That's when some black powder

exploded while men

were building a tunnel.

Uh, seven of the men

were k*lled.

And, uh, three were maimed.

Oh [bleep].

[Steve] It was so bad,

the expert I spoke to,

said that body parts

were actually raining

from the sky.

Now, do you think those

railway workers

are who you might have seen?

Yeah.

[Steve] What happened next?

So, I went into this hotel.

Lots of dead people.

The first thing

that I really noticed

was hearing piano music.

And it was coming

from upstairs.

So, I went up the stairs

and then, there was

this dead guy there.

Then, I saw some women.

And they were all, like,

chit-chatting.

Then, I went downstairs,

into... I don't know,

a restaurant or something.

There was a guy there,

who used to be

a business manager,

I think he kept

calling himself.

And this would have been,

maybe, in the 's or 's.

He was super solid as well.

The living may see him.

And he does get annoyed

when people are not doing

the proper things.

[Steve] So, Amy,

the place is called

The Weatherford Hotel.

You mentioned

that the dead guy might

get annoyed with the living.

Now, I want you

to meet Chelsea.

She runs the place.

Chelsea, tell Amy

about the bottle flying.

In the same area,

down in The Gopher Hole,

I was shining a glass.

All of a sudden,

another flute sh*t

right in front of my face,

hit the mirror in the back bar

and shattered.

Another time,

there is a shelf

right above the bar.

It's, um, very flush,

there's no reason

why anything would fall

off of it.

And the bottle

was actually tucked back

towards the wall area.

And, um, it had fallen over

and it almost hit the server

which was there probably

a minute before.

[Amy] Oops.

-See it?

-Ah-ha.

The business manager,

do you think that's the one

that threw the bottle?

Yeah, that's the most

active [bleep] place

I walked tonight.

-Wow.

-[Amy] The hotel.

[Steve] Okay, so what's next?

[Amy] So then, I left

and I went to the diner.

And there was only

one dead guy that I met.

Very, very present.

Uh, very solid.

I got that his name

was something like Bill.

And I think he may have owned

the business at some point.

He does tend to move

things around.

So, going through the deeds

for your place,

I found that your diner

was De Noel's Bakery

from to .

The guy who ran it

from the 's

and to the close

-was Bob Noel.

-Ah.

[Steve] Now you said he moves

things around.

Nancy, I want you to tell Amy

about the sweeper.

[Nancy] I was in the basement

of the diner.

And I felt someone

behind me sweeping the floor.

-Hmm.

-[Nancy] And I could see

the motion of it.

And I turned around to talk

to them,

and there was nobody there.

Have you seen any

other movements or...

[Nancy] I've seen things,

we've had things move...

Is it possible the previous

former guy that owned

the place, Bob Noel?

[Amy] Yeah.

It's his place.

You're cool with him

staying, right?

-I mean...

-[audience murmuring]

'Cause he really

wants to stay.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

Now, I'm going

to talk about...

...things that kind of

affect the entire town.

There are three things.

I'll start off

with the dead woman.

I called her the bride,

uh, because she's wearing

a wedding dress.

And she was on both

of my walks.

And she does travel around.

But, her favorite place,

is here.

The problem with her

is that she can jump people.

That is not good

because the person

can lose control

for seconds to minutes

over their body.

And when she gets annoyed,

she'll screw things up,

uh, with electricity.

She's really good at that.

So, we'll start

with the electricity.

Susan, can you explain

to Amy what's going on?

I would come in once

every week

and two very high up lights

in our lighting tracks

would be on.

And, they're not lights

that you can turn on

with a switch.

And I would bring

in my production guys,

have them look at it

and no explanation.

[Steve] Now, Amy,

you mentioned

she can jump people.

Lisa, remember

when we discussed

about people not acting

the way they should?

-Yes.

-Tell that to Amy.

I have seen and experienced

people doing things that

[inhales]

I would not think

is in their character.

And very... bad things.

Can I have one example?

Sure, I mean, I can give two.

And both have to do

with people that I work with

stabbing other people.

[bleep]

So, is that something

that could be tied

into her jumping people?

Yes, yes.

[Steve] So this bride,

does she do anything else?

She really likes it up here

and, uh, this is what I got.

So I'm getting that she causes

a lot of problems

with people on the stage.

She... She... She... She...

She's very upset.

She doesn't wanna go anywhere.

Uh, she likes it here.

She does a lot

of bad things here.

She, uh,

is climbing on their backs.

I wonder if they feel, uh,

literally a weight,

uh, on their shoulders

all of a sudden.

Feeling like something

really heavy

slammed on to them.

And I had a sketch

done of what I saw.

That's [bleep] up.

[Nancy] Horrible.

[Joshua] The legs

over the shoulders,

that it's fully over,

as you said.

That's [bleep] up.

So Amy I brought Lisa back up.

[clears throat]

I want her to talk

about what I consider

a violent incident.

So this was about years ago

and I worked here.

And I was

about six months pregnant.

Something pushed me

from behind

and I kind of, like.

slammed into one

of the high top tables.

-Okay.

-She did demonstrate on me.

I'm the lightweight,

obviously, we know.

-Yeah.

-[Steve] And...

...she gave me a jolt.

What are you thinking?

Ah, it could be a woman.

[Steve] So, you said

there were

three things, right?

-[Amy] Yeah.

-[Steve] So

what's the second?

[Amy] This is...

...where it gets

a little different.

So, I initially

was calling it a thing.

This was never human

and it was not

from this Earth.

It's all over town.

It's been here

for an extremely long time.

On the first night when I was

in the basement of the shop,

I saw it coming and going

down there through the walls.

So, it kind of travels

around town

underground, I guess.

It can show itself

to people in different ways.

I just wanna get Ari up there.

Hi, I'm Ari.

I'm a Flagstaff local.

-Didn't you tell me

about a face?

-[Ari] Yeah.

I was in the basement

of the downtown diner

and in the corner of it

I saw a very grey, long,

disheveled face.

It had no body.

It gave me a very big sense

of dread.

[Amy] Here's the thing.

According to this thing,

it's not trying

to scare people,

it's trying to comfort them.

So, it can

give them information

about the future,

but I'm skeptical

about it myself.

We've worked together

more than years now

and that's one

of the stranger things

you've ever run into.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

All right, so how would this

affect regular people

in the town.

[Amy] People would have

really clear,

you know, visions

or hearing something

talking about a future event

or something of that nature.

It's weird to me that

you would say that there...

This thing is giving us,

like, glimpses of the future

because I've definitely

had experiences

where I've had a dream

and it wasn't something

that happened to me

in the past

but all of a sudden

it became something

that came to fruition.

Oh.

My concern was

if it was, like,

harming people in a way.

Uh, but it...

From what you're saying,

it wouldn't seem that way.

Anybody else dreaming?

[sighs]

My name is Kimberly

and I'm a Flagstaff local.

I actually had a dream

last month that ended up

coming true.

Um, I had misplaced

my grandmother's ring

which she passed

a couple of years ago.

So, it means a lot to me

and uh, I had a dream

that basically was like...

Your ring is here in this room

and it just, like, showed me

the exact area and, uh,

I went to that spot

and sure enough it was there.

-That's positive.

-[Steve] Glad you found it.

Yeah.

[Amy] Well,

now I'm re-evaluating.

All right,

maybe he's not a bad guy.

You guys know

this town is , feet up

and it's k*lling me.

I mean I'm having

a tough time here.

So I was actually reading

about mountain climbers

sometimes seeing apparitions

because they get disoriented

from the low oxygen.

So I got three towns people

seeing weird stuff

to take an altitude test.

We showed them a mix

of humans and mannequins

and asked them

to identify the real people.

All of them got it wrong.

We were simulating

a much higher altitude.

So, what the test proved

is it's possible

tourists are actually

seeing things.

But this doesn't explain

what the locals

are experiencing

because they're adjusted

to the altitude.

That's interesting though.

I like that study,

that's cool.

So, um, Amy, you mentioned

this thing goes

through walkways,

down in the basement.

So, you should know

there's a series of tunnels

that run underneath the city.

There have been

a lot of weird rumors

about what happened

in these tunnels.

But I spoke to a woman

who directed a documentary

on the tunnels.

Now, she set

the record straight.

They were built in the s.

The smaller ones

were used to steam heat

for the businesses downtown.

Now the larger ones

we used as passage ways

between the buildings.

These tunnels are a big part

of Flagstaff lore.

I wanted to go

check 'em out myself

but most of them

are now boarded up.

Huh, interesting.

[Steve] Now you said

there were three things

that concern you in the town.

We got the bride,

we got the thing.

What else?

I'm definitely worried

about this guy.

He was super present

on the first walk

in the basement

of the shop.

I got that he was

one of the original owners

of this land or town.

The thing is,

is that he still believes

that this is his town.

I put him maybe

in the mid-s.

I heard a name, uh, like Jack.

Uh, and I got that he...

...I think d*ed

from some kind of disease.

Okay, so what you're saying

is making me think

about one

of the original owners

of Jessica's property.

His name wasn't Jack,

but it's close.

His name was James Vail.

Mmm, oh, interesting.

Now Karen,

a local professor, uh,

told me about this story.

He started off in Flagstaff

as a bartender at a saloon,

uh, where Jessica's

store sits now.

Vail was a pretty smart

businessman

and wind up owning the bar

few years later.

In the s,

he bought the building

and added a brothel.

This is a photo

of what that looked

like back then.

So Vail was making

so much money,

he started buying

property all over the town

that he used

for cattle ranching.

We're talking

about acres.

But in , Vail suffered

a life changing accident

in one of his ranches.

Uh, he was run over by a wagon

and nearly lost his life.

Ooh.

Vail never recovered

and he was crippled

and in terrible pain.

Mmm.

Apparently it

was too much for him.

And on April rd, ,

Vail put a g*n to his head

and pulled the trigger.

-Oh, damn.

-[Steve] Yeah.

[Amy] How old was he

when he d*ed?

[Steve] Vail was years old

when he k*lled himself.

-Really?

-[Steve] Yeah.

Could James Vail

be this dead guy you saw?

Yeah, I mean

I see a lot of the boxes

being, like checked.

She said you were worried

about this guy, but why?

[Amy] Well he goes all over...

When he was alive,

uh, one of the things

that I saw him doing

was actually

eating a human heart.

[crowd gasping]

[Amy] When I went

into the basement,

I saw him again and...

He likes to be

alone down there

and he'll get really pissed

when people inv*de his space.

He can, uh, push people.

The living would see him

as a flat looking

shadow type figure.

When he's in this area,

he likes to hang

out down here.

And he like, plots and plans.

He's writing out names

of people he hates,

people he wants to do harm to.

That's what he does.

He does that wide circling,

wide circling.

And I think this might be

one of the [bleep] places.

Now let's talk

about the basement.

Uh, everyone

at Jessica's store hates,

hates the basement.

Hates it down there.

So Jessica,

do me a favor and, uh,

describe the black shadow,

um, you saw in the basement?

So, I was walking,

you know, from one end

of the basement to the other,

and out of the corner

of my eye,

I saw, like, a big shadow

that was kind of,

like, going by me.

This is Jordan,

you remember from before,

she works at the shop.

Hi.

When I was downstairs

in the basement,

there was a big black shadow

right behind me.

It didn't feel humanoid to me,

but it was

very threatening feeling.

Mmm, okay.

He does take people's energy

and makes them sick.

Some people that he

hones in on,

uh, he can follow them home

and make them sicker.

Where's Adalyn?

I'm Adalyn and I work

at the crystal shop as well.

Hi.

Adalyn, didn't you tell me

you got sick down there?

[Adalyn] Yes.

Every now and again

whenever I go downstairs

which is pretty frequent,

sometimes I get a feeling

of just, like, dread

in my stomach

or, um,

just, like, something

doesn't want me there.

Didn't you tell me

your biggest fear

was that something would...

Might follow you home?

[Adalyn] Yeah.

I would just get nervous

that it would get,

like, attached

or something like that.

Should she be worried?

This guy,

yeah, he can go places.

He tends to,

like, fixate on people

who are prone to illnesses.

So, I also had a sketch done

of what I saw.

Creepy looking son of a bitch.

Take a look at that.

-[Nancy] Very scary.

-Yeah.

And he's the one

you said goes

all around town?

Yeah, he likes

to make people sick.

He definitely looks

like some old mogul guy.

This reminds me of like...

I don't know, Scrooge.

What does this guy want

from everybody in town?

Everything he owned

he wants it back.

I was actually

seeing these people.

That he's writing down

their names and going there,

going there.

Gonna take them down.

Gonna [bleep] him up.

This makes me feel horrible.

I wanna know my name's

not on that paper

and I wanna know

how can I be safe

from being on that paper.

[indistinct whispering]

[indistinct whispering]

[Steve] So, I know

everyone here

is passionate about this city

and I can understand why.

Flagstaff is beautiful.

But after what

we've heard tonight,

there's clearly a problem.

So what's it gonna take

to make this place safe?

For that, I'm gonna

turn it over to Amy.

[Amy] For the crystal shop,

the first person

I would really like

to see moved on

is the ADHD guy.

The best bet

would be having a younger

male medium.

Maybe in his early s.

Just so he can have a bond

with that male.

I think that would go

really smoothly.

Then we have this location

with the angry male.

I believe that

a motherly female type

who is a medium

would be able

to move him on.

As far as the laborers,

honestly, they need

some more time

to kind of

work out their [bleep].

I know it sucks

'cause they are

in a lot of pain

but they're not

completely aware

that they're deceased.

So leave the guys alone.

-Yes.

-They're working

through things.

All right, so any advice

for the hotel?

[Amy] Upstairs,

what would be really great

is maybe having

a couple of mediums

come through and sit down

with these various dead

who want to talk.

Because there's

a lot of dead there

who would love

to tell their stories.

A lot of them,

once they do that

will automatically

be able to move on.

[Steve] All right,

now what about the guy

at Nancy's diner.

-He's good to go?

-Oh, he's awesome,

I mean...

I like him.

He's a good guy.

So you don't

have to do anything.

He doesn't wanna leave,

so and you're cool.

So, that's good.

[Steve] Okay, now how

about the things

that are affecting

the whole town?

As far as the thing goes,

is that okay?

Personally,

I'm still one the fence

about the whole thing.

But, it seems to be positive.

So, let's just monitor

the situation,

but we'll leave him alone

for now.

[Steve] Okay.

What about the bride?

With the bride

who's potentially

a big [bleep] problem.

I would like to get kind of

brutal with her

and bring in a

female demonologist

who's going to, uh,

exorcise her.

So any particular

location for that though?

-Here since this is

her favorite spot.

-[Steve] Okay

[Steve] Now

the shadow guy seems

to be the biggest issue.

What are we gonna

do about him?

I want to have

a male demonologist

and a shaman coming at him

at the same time

in the basement

of the crystal place.

By going at him

with both of these,

uh, people

he will be contained

and removed.

It sounds like if the bride

and the two guys are gone,

things should be

a little better here?

Yeah, that'll be good.

So, Chelsea,

you heard what Amy said.

Uh, you gonna follow

her advice at all?

-Of course, yeah.

-[Steve] Okay.

Jessica, you're the reason

we're in town.

I mean you called

for help originally.

Uh, it seems like you got

the most problems

in that basement.

Yeah.

Are you gonna follow up

with some

of Amy's suggestions?

Well, absolutely.

Were you shocked at all

or surprised by what

you heard?

Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah, kind of

floored actually.

So, Susan, you got a couple

of bad guys here.

Yeah it's definitely

a surprise, honestly,

and definitely worrisome

on a energetic level.

Well, better to get

her out of here

before she closes her palm

on a group you got here or...

Yeah, it's not what

we wanna be known for.

-That's for sure.

-[Steve] Yeah.

Well, some of you thought

whatever she is no big deal

and some of you

thought it was a problem,

it could be dangerous.

Obviously,

it's a little bit of both,

but more dangerous

than we thought.

But now we've got a gameplan

and hopefully you guys will

go through with it.

So, we appreciate you, uh,

allowing us to come into town

and doing this investigation.

I hope everybody's

happy with it.

Yes.

Yeah.

Thank you so much

for having us

and, uh, hopefully things

will work out.

[Amy] This was

a very unique case.

Steve and I have never

investigated an entire

town before.

But I was glad we were able

to give the people

of Flagstaff

some good news.

If they follow my advice,

this town will be a lot safer

for the people who live, work

and visit here.