02x03 - A Tangled Web We Weave

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02x03 - A Tangled Web We Weave

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[telephone rings]

[dispatcher] Hampton County ,
where is your emergency?


[woman] Yes, um,
we're on Salkehatchie Road,


and there is a man on the side of the road
with blood all over him


and he's waving his hands.

He looks fine,
but it kind of looks like a setup,


so we didn't stop.

[dispatcher] I don't blame you. Let me
get my deputies to see what's going on.


[officer] The female says he was driving
a Mercedes-Benz SUV kind of truck.


[chatter on the radio]

-[officer] How are you doing?
-Hey, how are you?


[officer] Good. What happened?

[Becky] It was Labor Day weekend,

and I got a phone call
from a friend of mine in Hampton


who said that Alex had been sh*t.

And the first thing I thought was,

well, the person who sh*t
Maggie and Paul had found Alex.


Alex had gone to the hospital,

and they're not quite sure who sh*t him.

A mystery in South Carolina
gets even deeper.


Officials telling Fox News
-year-old attorney Alex Murdaugh


was sh*t and wounded today
in Hampton County, South Carolina.


No word on his condition.

[reporter] Alex was airlifted
to the hospital.


He'd been sh*t in the head
in broad daylight


while he was changing a tire
on the side of the road.


[Becky] Alex's story kept changing
all in one day.


I believe we found out
that Cousin Eddie was involved.


[Eddie] Yeah.

I never was a quiet person.

Name's Curtis Edward Smith.
Everybody calls me Eddie.


Come on, baby.

Damn.

I met Alex in the late ' s,
you know, uh, early ' s.


I knew his father,
which I'm half Murdaugh.


Don't tell nobody. [laughs] Really, don't.

I was friends with Alex, and I also done
a bit of work for Alex over the years.


Running errands for him
or doing a little minor work,


like general land clearing type of work,

cutting canals or waterways
through properties


so it gets proper drainage.

He called me about , :
in the morning, asking what I was doing.


I said, "Nothing, just worked late."

He said, "Can you
run over this way a minute?"


He told me to meet him
at the funeral home in Varnville.


Looked up, he's coming down the road.

He pulled the sun visor around
to where it was in his window, you know,


and he rolls his window up,

so I'm looking at him
through a hole like this.


I said, What are you doing?"

He goes, "Well...
I don't need to be seen in town."


And he said, "Well, I'm being watched."

I said, "Well, who's watching you?"
He said, "SLED."


And I said,
"Why are they watching you for?"


He said,
"Well, you know, about what happened."


I said, "You mean out at Moselle?"

He said, "Yeah."
I said, "Man, what did happen?"


He said, "Things just got all f*cked up."

Just like that.

He said, "You love me?"
I said, "Yeah, like a brother."


"I'd do most anything for you."

He said, "I need you
to sh**t me and k*ll me."


"That ain't happening. Not today,
not tomorrow. It ain't happening."


And he just... So he just, "Well,
I guess I got to try to do it myself."


He takes off.

I went after him.

I just... I just followed him
out of just pure concern,


you know, as much as anything else is.

Good Lord, Maggie and Paul
was already dead.


Mr. Randolph d*ed
three or four days later.


The family don't need
a whole lot more going on.


And when I pulled up there,
and I rolled the window down,


he's coming up to my window with a g*n.

I figured I'd scare some sense into him.

I fired it up in the air.

All ' " or ' " of him just

hit the asphalt like that.

That's where that spot
on the head comes from,


from the rocks sticking up
on the side of the road,


not from a b*llet bounced off his head
from less than six foot behind.


But he had told me...
I said, "Why'd you want me to sh**t you?"


"Because they're gonna be able to prove

that I was responsible
for Maggie and Paul."


And I knew I hadn't sh*t him.

I knew there wasn't no blood on him,
there wasn't no blood on me,


so I went home.

[mysterious music plays]

[chatter on radio]

-[officer] How are you doing, sir?
-Hey, how are you?


-[officer] What happened?
-I got sh*t.


[officer] Tell me more about what...

[Alex] I was... I'm going down the road.
I had a tire go flat. I pulled over.


And this car went by me.

And I didn't pay a lot of attention
to the truck,


but then it turned around, came back.

A real nice guy, acted like,

and I turn my head, and, I mean, boom.

[Eddie] Then, six, seven days later,

State Law Enforcement Division here
started to come around


asking me a bunch of questions
and everything.


That's when I found out
that I was supposed to have sh*t him


in the back of the head with a . .

Agents with the South Carolina
Law Enforcement Division


have arrested -year-old
Curtis Edward Smith of Colleton County.


State authorities say
Smith planned the sh**ting.


Now the question remains,
who is Curtis Smith,


and did he have any ties
to the Murdaugh family before all this?


[producer] What did it feel like
to see that on the news?


[tense music plays]

It was just disheartening.
I mean, it really was.


I mean, I had...
I'd never been in no trouble...


with the law.

The law ain't up my behind all the time.
They ain't out at my house.


They ain't pulling me over
and searching me for "dr*gs."


I never had tried to talk
to an attorney or nothing.


I talked to SLED without an attorney.
I had nothing to hide from 'em.


I really didn't take it seriously,
to be honest with you.


I knew I hadn't sh*t his ass,

but he damn sure
tried to tell everybody I did,


or he told everybody I did.

[Creighton] The roadside sh**ting
brought Eddie Smith into the picture,


and Alex was trying to put this on Smith,

but that was
about to come unraveled for Alex.


[tense music continues]

[Becky] Eddie was called
"the fourth Murdaugh."


He helped the Murdaughs clean up
whatever they needed cleaning up with.


Eddie and Alex were cousins
somewhere down the line,


and from what I've heard,
they were involved in financial fraud.


That involved cashing of checks.
That involved dr*gs, probably.


[producer] Are you a drug dealer?

Nope.

Nope.

If I was a drug dealer, I wasn't
a good one. I only had one client.


And that was Alex Murdaugh.

-[producer] What did you do?
-Nothing.


Other than me
running errands for him.


It started late , early .

I was over at the office one day.
I don't remember why I was over there.


He had an envelope
that needed to go to Beaufort.


I threw it on the seat, and I heard
that "sh-ka, sh-ka, sh-ka."


Rattling, you know?

I knew damn well
there wasn't no snake in there.


The sound that a pill bottle would make

when it was half full
or whatever, you know?


And I never really looked
at the name on the envelope or nothing.


I just assumed
it was going to law offices down there.


It was an hour and a half,
and I made bucks.


I'm just riding around, you know.

He asked me to go to the airport
to meet people.


Different airports around South Carolina,
Georgia. You know, small airports.


I'm pretty sure that Buster and Paul
both knew of the dr*gs.


[tense music continues]

I think everybody knew
that there was a problem


with Alex's drug problem.

It was like,

we knew, but we didn't discuss it.

I don't know how much.
I... I know it was quite a bit.


He had dr*gs all over the place.

He would have it everywhere.

It was small, little baggies.

Sometimes, they'd have the residue,

and sometimes, you know,
there would be a pill in there.


Alex would sometimes leave the baggies.
I guess they would fall out of his pocket.


Maggie knew something was up,

but I believe
that she didn't know the extent.


[Valerie] So the rumor mill
in Hampton County


is that it involved cartels,

potentially money laundering.

And then we've heard rumors
about the property owner


who was a close friend of the Murdaughs
and owned the property before they did.


There's significant evidence

he may have been
involved in drug trafficking.


He was not convicted,

but he was charged
with a crime in drug trafficking,


and the witness d*ed
just before the trial.


Another theory, I think,
that the defense used was drug smuggling


and drug people coming
to k*ll off the family,


to pay for any debts
that they might have owed.


[Kenneth] Look, I have worked
a lot of death scenes,


from street gangs
to outlaw motorcycle g*ng hits


to self-inflicted g*nsh*t wounds.

I mean, I've worked
a lot of bad, bad stuff.


I've never seen it done that way.

In my opinion,
it was not an organized hit.


You wouldn't have seen

all those wounds on Ms. Maggie.

It would have been "tap, tap."
It would have been over.


It was the work of an amateur
or a person that didn't think it out.


[Creighton] Then there was this idea

that Alex was involved in
a criminal element or the drug community.


There's still a lot
of pending investigations going on,


and we don't comment
on pending investigations.


We don't comment
on grand jury information.


We also know about the internet.
People can write whatever they want.


So we have to be careful
that when we draw connections,


that there's actual evidence
of those connections.


[producer] Can we talk about the checks?

You cashed a lot of checks for Alex.

Can you speak to that?

He was always walking around
with three or four checkbooks.


I cashed a lot of checks for him.

There was a lot them
over an eight or ten-year period.


I asked him several times. I said,
"This is not money laundering, is it?"


"Nope, just doing me a favor."

"You're cashing mycheck
out of myaccount."


And all the checks I got
was out of his account.


I was trying to figure out
how to get out of it.


I wanted out, and when I told him, said,
"Look, I'm not doing this anymore,


I'm not gonna be your errand man,
so to speak..."


He knew my daughter. He knew
I'd put her through school, her education.


And in her route to work, she has
to go through a couple of neighborhoods


that's not the best neighborhoods
to have to drive through.


And it was like,
"Well, is Nicole still working at USC?"


That kind of deal.

So, you know, "I've got you here,
and I'm going to keep you here."


I mean, there never...
there never was an outright thr*at.


It was just implied.

There was absolutely nobody,

nobody in four or five
counties around here


that I could have went and sit down with
and told them what was happening,


that they wouldn't have
locked me up in an insane asylum.


That simple.

There's years as a solicitor,
and they still got power.


Four generations in one family.

That's unheard of.

The defense also tried to say early on
that Eddie Smith, Cousin Eddie,


may have had a motive
to come and... and k*ll the family.


Oh no. It got real heavy real fast.

It seemed like
it was all being put off on me.


I was responsible for all of it.
I sh*t Maggie and Paul. Uh...


I stole everybody's money,
and I didn't know who everybody was.


[producer] In the month leading up
to the June th double homicide,


a cashier's check was paid to you

ten days before the murders.

What was that amount for?

As far as the checks that was cashed
before or after the murders,


that was... that was $ , , as you see.

Uh, you know, he would give me the checks,
told me to put 'em in a checking account.


He was writing checks back off of 'em.
I cashed and give him the money back.


But... that's before it happened, so I mean...

I didn't have no knowledge
of what was going to happen.


So I mean, I wouldn't have thought
nothing more about it.


[tense music plays]

[producer] Did you help k*ll Paul?

Nope.

[producer] Did you help k*ll Maggie?

Nope.

No way I could've known that was gonna
happen and stood by and let it happen.


There's nobody deserves that.

[tense music plays]

[Alan] I've probably never felt more
pressure in my life to get a case right.


At that time,
there was no sufficient evidence


to indict Alex
in the m*rder of Paul and Maggie.


We had known all along this is not
gonna be as much a DNA case


or a fingerprint case

or a tire track case or things like that,

that people conceive, from watching shows,
like CSI
, that exist in every case.

But there's a kind of evidence
that's just as good,


and that is the digital evidence,
the digital footprint that we all have.


Until that time, we were not able
to get into Paul's cell phone


to understand what Paul was doing
in his final minutes.


[Creighton] We had information through
Rogan Gibson, a close friend of Paul's.


He'd been on the phone with Paul
at the kennels the night of the murders.


But we knew
that was not going to be enough.


Paul's phone had been locked,
and nobody had the password.


We have what they call a partial download,
um, because we don't have the passcode.


-Do you know his passcode?
-I don't.


He was super secretive
with that cell phone.


[Creighton] Another attempt was made
with the Secret Service.


Then somebody tried his birthday
and, pop, the thing came right open.


It didn't just open up the phone,
but it opened up our case.


That is where we found
the infamous kennel video.


[judge] Call your next witness.

[Creighton] Thank you, Your Honor.
We call Rogan Gibson.


Rogan's testimony was... was one of the ones
that I made sure to watch.


Rogan is one of the most loyal people
that I have ever met.


We grew up together.

He'd give you
the shirt off his back, for sure.


Tell me, how old were you
when you got to know Paul Murdaugh?


[Rogan] I've known him all my life.

[Creighton] Were you close friends
with Paul until the day he was m*rder*d?


[Rogan] I was.

[Creighton] Did you get close
with the rest of the family?


[Rogan] I was.

Like a second family.

-[Creighton] Like a second family to you?
-Yes, sir.


Rogan is an old neighbor,
old friend of the family.


He was living out of town at the time.

And he needed someone to take care
of his new puppy, Cash, for him,


and Paul was doing that.

Paul, he was actually filming
his buddy Rogan's dog,


who had something wrong with the tail.

They're down at the kennels.

Paul tried to FaceTime him,

but there was testimony
that the signal's very weak.


So instead of FaceTiming with the dog,

he takes this video.

Your Honor, at this time, I'm gonna play
defense exhibit for this witness.


[Paul] Get back. Get back.

Sit, Cash. Come on, sit.
It's okay. Come here.


Come here, Cash.

Come here.

Cash.

[Maggie] Hey, he's got a bird
in his mouth.


[man] He's got a rock.

[Paul] Hey, Bubba.

-[Maggie] It's a guinea.
-[Paul] There's a chick there.


[Alex] Come here, Bubba!

I knew she'd gone to the kennel.

I was at the house.

[officer] The last time you saw Paul and
Maggie is when y'all were eating supper?


Yes, sir.

After dinner,
Maggie and Paul went to the kennels?


I stayed on the couch.

[Alex] Come here, Bubba!

There was a hush
that just laid over the whole courtroom.


There was a silence, like an audible gasp,

and then I could notice people
kinda inching up, trying to lean in.


Were they hearing this correctly?

[Creighton] Did you recognize
the voices on there?


-[Rogan] I did.
-[Creighton] What voices did you hear?


[Rogan] Paul's, Ms. Maggie, Mr. Alex.

[Creighton] Can you point out
Alex Murdaugh,


the person whose voice you recognize
in this video, in this courtroom?


Right there in the gray jacket.

[Creighton] Let the record reflect
he's identified the defendant.


There was Maggie. There was Paul.
There were the dogs.


The chicken and Bubba.
And then there was Alex.


[Blanca] When I saw the video,
it was like an eerie feeling.


I heard Paul messing with Cash,

and then I hear Maggie call,
talking about, "It's a guinea."


And then, all of a sudden,
I hear him calling Bubba.


[Alex] Come here, Bubba.

When I heard the voice,
I... I... I automatically knew.


I knew it was him.

That : video is the linchpin
of the whole homicide case


because we know
that Maggie and Paul and Alex


are all prolific users of their phones.

And in a matter of minutes,

their phones stop
all meaningful activity forever.


Between that : and : window,

prosecution was adamant
that's when they d*ed.


Alex Murdaugh was there

approximately two minutes
before Maggie and Paul were m*rder*d.


This was a piece of information
that he did not think was important


for law enforcement to know
for over a year.


[Valerie] Gosh, I get chills. I mean,
it was haunting to see second by second.


We don't know if those were her
last words, but they were among her last.


Paul had that last bit of evidence
that was so important.


It was Paul's testimony in a way.

[Anthony] Even though I haven't seen
or talked to Paul in three years,


it was like I could,
plain as day, see every bit of it.


Paul hollering at the dog.

I mean, it was just like I was there.

I felt like I could...
I could picture everything.


He sounded happy to me,

and, uh,

that actually brought
a little peace to me, I guess.


[Morgan] Just knowing
those were their last moments...


I think that was hard,

and I think it's probably why
I watched it so many times.


Ms. Maggie going down to the kennels,
I think about that a lot.


She never did that.

If it was dark, she would be in the house.

Ms. Maggie was a scared person.

If Mr. Alex wasn't home, she'd make Paul
sleep in the bedroom right next to hers.


She'd go around
and lock every door, every window.


I feel like she would have been
called down there for a reason.


You know, it's hard.

I just didn't want Mr. Alex's face
to be the last thing that Paul saw.


I didn't want him to be m*rder*d at all,

and I think that I battled myself
a lot on that internally.


I would think about a million
different people that it could have been.


I'm... Like, Mr. Alex
k*lled Paul and Maggie.


The video that was found
on Paul's phone proved


that he was definitely in the vicinity
and not where he was saying he was,


but I can't tell you
that I think he k*lled his child.


[Valerie] This crucial window,
this crucial time when their phones stop,


he says he wasn't there,
and we know he was there.


[Becky] Thinking back
to the very beginning of the trial,


the family came in.

There was more of a lightheartedness.

Alex would turn around and talk to them.

They would be fist-bumping.
They would be talking, hugging.


[Paul] Get back.

[Becky] After the video,
there was worry, there was concern.


I think Alex Murdaugh
wanted to take the stand.


He wanted to testify because he believed

he could manipulate that jury
like he had done so many other times.


I think letting Alex Murdaugh
take the stand was a bad move,


but I don't know that they had a choice.

You may call your next witness.

[attorney] Thank you, Your Honor.

The defendant, Richard Alexander Murdaugh,
wishes to take the stand.


[Valerie] I remember
sitting there thinking,


"Is he gonna prove to be

kinda this magical personal injury lawyer
that his reputation was?"


I do remember swearing in Alex.

It seemed like
he was racing to get to the stand.


He anticipated the oath,
and he answered before I even finished.


I'm Alex Murdaugh.

M-U-R-D-A-U-G-H.

Good morning.

[attorney] Mr. Murdaugh,

on June th, ,
did you take this g*n or any g*n like it


and sh**t your son Paul in the chest

in the feed room
at your property off Moselle Road?


[Alex] No, I did not.

[attorney] Mr, Murdaugh,
did you take this g*n or any g*n like it


and blow your son's brains out
on June th or any day or any time?


[Alex] No, I did not.

Mr. Griffin, I didn't sh**t
my wife or my son any time, ever.


[Alex] Come here, Bubba.

[attorney] Mr. Murdaugh, is that you

on the kennel video at : p.m.

on June th,
the night Maggie and Paul were m*rder*d?


[Alex] It is.

[attorney] Were you at the kennels
at : p.m.


on the night
Maggie and Paul were m*rder*d?


I was.

[attorney] Did you lie to SLED Agent Owen

that the last time you saw Maggie and Paul
was at dinner?


I did lie to them.

[attorney] Why?

You know,
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave."


But once I told a lie,

I had to keep lying.

[Alan] One of the things I found
astonishing, as a father and as a husband,


if I leave my house
and two minutes later, somebody comes in


and brutally murders
everyone in my family,


the one thing
I'm gonna be thinking and screaming is,


"If only I'd been there."

"If only I'd been there two minutes
longer, I could have saved them."


At no point in his cross-examination
did he have any remorse


about literally missing
his wife and son's murderers


coming in there
and brutally murdering them.


[Valerie] So, in the end,
Alex was his own counsel.


There's no doubt in my mind

Alex's testimony hurt his lawyers' case.

[Creighton] When you had a conversation
with Ms. Shelly after the fact,


you actually asked her to say that
you were there longer than minutes.


You know, I heard Shelly's testimony. I...

[Alex] I believe Shelly
to be a good person.


We may have discussed
how long I was there.


At that point in time,
if I thought I was there minutes,


I may have said
I was here minutes, but...


You know, I can't tell you.

He just told a lie because I would
never say that if it was not true.


One of the things
that stood out about this trial


is that some of the most effective,

heart-wrenching,
memorable witnesses were women.


Shelly,

and certainly Blanca.

A lot of times, the defense will request
that a jury visit a crime scene.


I believe the defense,
in this particular case,


wanted the jury
to see how big Moselle was,


how things in the case had lined up.

[somber music plays]

[Valerie] The defense very much wanted

the jury to go to Moselle,
and the prosecution agreed.


So the last morning,

the judge arranged
for a field trip for the jury.


It was decided
there would be a press pool.


So one videographer,

and then one still photographer,
and one print reporter.


I was fortunate to be chosen to go.

Don't think there's been a trip like that
since the OJ jury went to Brentwood.


This just had resonance
nationwide, internationally.


I wanted to make sure
that I was seeing and describing


and getting it right for people

and helping explain
this kind of momentous trip.


[somber music continues]

[Valerie] One of the first things
that I did


was to try to establish the distance
between where Maggie fell and Paul fell.


It was just hard to imagine.

I printed out the exhibit
that showed where the bodies were found.


You know, Maggie saw everything,
and she saw who did it,


from right at that point where she fell.

I remember walking over to the feed room,
and then walking back and forth,


counting my steps like, "How far are we?"

It was like normal steps away.

That's exactly how far she was
from where he fell.


And, um, we weren't given
really any specific instructions,


so I went into the feed room.

Paul would have been standing
about five feet in when he was sh*t.


So I stood as close to where
I thought he'd been sh*t as possible,


and what I realized...

He would not have been able to see,

at least that first sh*t, who sh*t him.

But then, if you stumble forward,

there's no doubt he saw who...

who blew the brain out of his body.

[Becky] I had a feeling from our time
together with the jury out at Moselle


that it was not gonna take our jury long
to make the decision in this case.


It's just called that woman's intuition.

That's when I went into my own office

to be preparing for what we were
about to do as far as reading the verdict.


And I called a friend of mine
who is the Hampton County clerk of court.


I said, "I don't know if I can do it.
I'm gonna get Judge Newman to do it."


"I just don't know that I can do it."

She says, "Honey, you're just gonna
read it like any other verdict."


When the jury went back,
uh, I was at peak exhaustion.


I think that we felt like
we just laid it all out there.


We'd done everything we could do.

[Valerie] The jury broke,
and it had been a long day.


I went over to the media center
to try to get ready


with whatever we thought
the story was gonna be.


And I can remember
d*ck, Jim, and the defense team


kind of wandering into the media center.

While we were standing there,

d*ck got word that the jury
had requested monitors for exhibits,


which he took as a positive sign.

[Becky] I had a knock on the door
that said the jury is ready to come out.


We're gonna let Judge Newman know

that everyone's ready and gathered
in the courtroom.


The jury went back less than an hour.

In short order, you know,
allayed the doubts of the doubtful


and said, "We don't need dinner.
We're ready."


It was hard to fathom that we'd have
a resolution one way or the other.


-Have you reached a verdict?
-[jury foreperson] Yes, sir, we have.


-Is it unanimous?
-[foreperson] Yes, sir, it is.


All right, if you will pass it up
to the clerk, who will pass it to me.


[Becky] He perused over
and scanned the verdict forms,


and then he handed it to me.

He said, "Madam Clerk,
would you please read the verdict?"


I was very intently being looked at
by the defense team, by the family,


really by everyone in the courtroom
and probably all over the world.


I just took a breath,

and then I started reading
from the indictment,


from the very top to the very bottom,
not wanting to miss a thing.


The State of South Carolina,
County of Colleton,


in the Court of General Sessions,

in the term of July,

the State vs.
Richard Alexander Murdaugh, Defendant,


indictment for m*rder...

[tense music plays]

...guilty verdict.

[Becky] You could feel a silence.

And even though no emotion was shown
in the courtroom by the family,


I was told
that when they got back to the room


that was the holding place
for the family to gather,


Buster did break down
and fall to his knees and just cried.


I knew my verdict
by the time I went back there.


We voted a couple of times.

There were questions about the g*ns.

Another young lady,
she couldn't believe that he did it,


'cause she couldn't believe
that a person could k*ll their own family.


That's what she just kept saying.

And when we voted again,

it was unanimous.

I felt I made the right decision.

I felt we made the right decision.

[Creighton] When I heard Ms. Becky
read that guilty verdict,


as I looked down, the team down this way
and law enforcement behind us,


I'm just so glad that we didn't
put all these folks through all of this


and not get, um, the justice
that we thought Maggie and Paul deserved.


[Alan] When the verdict came in guilty,
it was total vindication.


Total vindication
that I made the right decision.


Total vindication
that our team did the right thing,


got the conviction,
and proved a lot of naysayers wrong.


Mr. Murdaugh, if you'll come.

The court for sentencing.

This has been, perhaps,
one of the most troubling cases,


not just for me, as a judge,

uh, for the State, for the defense team,

but for all of the citizens
in this community.


We have a wife who's been m*rder*d,

a son savagely m*rder*d.

But, amazingly,
to have you come and testify


that my wife and son and I were out,
just enjoying life...


Not credible, not believable.

The expression you gave
on the witness stand,


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave,"
what did you mean by that?


I meant when I lied, I continued to lie.

[judge] All right, Mr. Murdaugh,

in the m*rder of your wife,
Maggie Murdaugh,


I sentence you for the term
of the rest of your natural life.


For the m*rder of Paul,

whom you probably loved so much,,

I sentence you to prison
for the rest of your natural life.


Those sentences will run consecutive.

And officers may carry forth
on the imposition.


[somber music plays]

[music fades]

[Becky] We thought that,
after the verdict,


that it would be a lightheartedness,

that there would be an easiness,
more so, in Hampton.


But it opened up
a whole other Pandora's box of questions.


I get asked, "Did Alex have help
in the m*rder of Paul and Maggie?"


If he had help, we would have pursued it.

The gathering storm was coming for him,

and he needed to do
his last desperate act to save himself


and to preserve his own personal legacy.

And the price he was willing to pay
was the m*rder of Paul and Maggie.


I do think Alex pulled the trigger.

And then I think he had help with

cleaning up everything
that needed cleaning up,


and what we had left was
the crime scene that took us to the trial.


[Morgan] I think it was premeditated
for a really long time.


In the back of my mind,
I feel like he might have had some help.


I do think
he was the decision-maker though.


I can't think about it,
because I'll get sketched out.


The only comment
that I have on that situation is


I think that there is another person,

and maybe even more,
but there's at least one more person


that needs to be facing
the same charges that Mr. Alex's facing,


because I don't think that Mr. Alex
could have sh*t his own child.


Really, we don't know
why did he do it, you know.


Maybe one day, he might tell people.

Only he knows why he did it.

[somber music plays]

[producer] Do you think
that Alex had help?


I don't want to answer that question.

I... I don't...

I... I... I don't feel comfortable
answering that question.


I thought of him as a brother.

He... he... he fooled me.
He fooled a lot of people.


If Mr. Randolph had been living,
none of this would have happened.


Don't think because he's in jail,
it's over with.


This is just a bump in the road.

[somber music continues]

[Blanca] I miss when we were
at the house by ourselves.


She didn't have to pretend
to be anything but Maggie with me,


and I miss that.

I'll never have a friend like that.

I don't know what else to say.
I mean, I'm...


She's not here, he's not here,

and I got the dog.

[somber music continues]

Only us.

I guess...

[Blanca sniffs]

I guess it's just us now.

[somber music fades]

[somber music plays]

[somber music continues]

[music fades]
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