17x04 - The Mystery of Mount Shasta

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17x04 - The Mystery of Mount Shasta

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Narrator: It is a mountain that
inspires both awe and fear.

Jack "walking eagle" Thom:
There's things around
in this mountain here

That people
are really unaware of.

But I believe it
cause I seen it.

Narrator:
For centuries,

Extraordinary sightings have
been reported both on its slopes

And in the sky above.

Nick pope:
There are multiple

Strange events taking place.

Ufo sightings,
paranormal events,

Strange disappearances,
that go back throughout history.

Dustin Naef:
I've seen people

In this very cave walk right
into a wall and vanish.

That's incredible.

Narrator:
But are these just stories

Or something more?

Giorgio Tsoukalos:
What makes mount shasta
fascinating to me

Are the questions.

Narrator:
Ancient astronaut theorist
giorgio Tsoukalos,

Author david Childress,

And investigative
mythologist william henry

Have come together
to examine incredible evidence

That suggests mount shasta

May have a connection
to otherworldly beings.

David Childress:
Perhaps it will be

At mount shasta
where the extraterrestrials

Finally reveal themselves.

Narrator:
There is a doorway

In the universe.

Beyond it is
the promise of truth.

It demands we
question everything

We have ever been taught.

The evidence is all around us.

The future
is right before our eyes.

We are not alone.

We have never been alone.

I'm really delighted to be
here with you guys because

I'm curious to learn
what the truth is

Behind mount shasta.

I used to live up
in san francisco,

And I drove
that road countless times.

And what struck me
is the fact that

Mount shasta sticks
out like a sore thumb.

- Henry: Sure does.
- Childress: It really does
stand out.

Henry:
I do have to admit driving up

From sacramento and catching
my first glimpse of it

Off in the distance
with the sun setting on it,

My heart skips a b*at.
I mean, it is majestic.

Tsoukalos:
Oh, it is beautiful. Absolutely.

Henry:
You can tell that there's really

An allure to it.

What makes mount shasta
fascinating to me

- Are the legends and the
mythologies of that place.
- Henry: Yep.

Childress:
Probably more weird books

Have been written about

Mount shasta
than any other mountain.

What do you want? Giants?
Do you want star people?

Do you want lost civilizations?
It all converges at shasta.

And everyone
who lives in that area

Is familiar with these stories.

Narrator:
Rising to an elevation

Of 14,179 feet,

Mount shasta
in northern california

Lies at an intriguing
crossroads of folklore,

Geology and the paranormal.

This majestic peak,

Which is also a dormant volcano,

Features
breathtaking waterfalls,

Pristine lakes,
and spectacular alpine vistas

That attract more than


But the native americans
who are indigenous to this area

Warn that mount shasta is as
dangerous as it is beautiful.

And for very unnatural reasons.

For centuries,
the mountain has been known

As a place where people report
strange events in the sky,

Encounter terrifying creatures,

And sometimes have even
vanished without a trace.

Pope:
Mount shasta is a location

Where there are multiple
strange events taking place.

Ufo sightings,

Paranormal events,

Strange disappearances...

That go back throughout history.

And, indeed, one can look to

Certain native american legends,
for example,

To say that
mount shasta has always

Been associated
with strange goings-on.

There's things around
in this mountain here

That people
are really unaware of.

Some people don't even
want to believe it.

But I believe it
cause I seen it.

I've witnessed it.

Narrator:
Local native american tribes,

Such as the shasta, wintu,

Modoc and karuk,
have inhabited the area

Dating back as much
as 12 centuries.

Each revere
mount shasta as a place

That possesses mystical powers.

Walking eagle:
I was told

By my grandmother
and grandfather

That, you know, that we didn't
go above the tree line.

That belongs to
"grandfather" up there.

So I try to stay
as far away as I can.

There was a native american
author there, lucy thompson,



All about
the native american legends

Of the star people,

All that
activity at mount shasta.

And this isn't some, like,
kooky book or something.

She's writing the history
of her people, the yurok tribe.

All these legends
are incredible.

And this has been going on
at mount shasta

For hundreds of years.

So can we attribute all these
legends to mere coincidence?

- That's the big question.
- Henry: I don't think so.

Another layer to this mystery
is that shasta is very close

To petroglyph point,
where we find some of

What are considered to be
some of the oldest

Petroglyphs in north america.

Narrator: 60 miles
northeast of mount shasta,

At lava beds national monument,

A curious record
of native american traditions

Can be found.

Hundreds of stone carvings,
known as petroglyphs,

That were created
as much as 6000 years ago

By ancestors of the modoc tribe.

The lava beds petroglyphs

Include ancient calendars,

Depictions of animals, humans,

And celestial beings
also referred to

As "sky people."

In various native american
traditions,

We have different spiritual
beings, uh, located

On these sort of different
planes of existence.

And there's a wonderful
range of stories

In many, many native american
groups that talk

About some of the adventures
and interactions

With the sky people, uh,
with the humans on earth.

Narrator:
One of the petroglyphs depicts

A large, winged creature
emerging from inside

Of mount shasta.

It is believed
to represent a sky being

Who the modoc people
worship as their creator

Known as skell.

The local people believe
that in ancient times,

The great sky chief skell

Came down from the sky
to live in shasta

And has been there
ever since and protects it.

Narrator:
Could this petroglyph of skell

Be, as some believe,

An actual depiction
of an extraterrestrial being

That the modoc people
encountered centuries ago?

So we know there's been humans
going through this area

For a long time
and creating these petroglyphs

With these
mystery teachings on them.

So it's got all of
that mythology attached to it

And has all kinds
of ufo sightings as well.

Certain mountains
are associated with ufos,

And mount shasta's
definitely one of them.

It's interesting to me
that we have modern accounts

Of ufo sightings, for example,

Right here at mount shasta,

But what's fascinating
to me is that there are

Many, many ancient stories
of so-called ufo encounters

That we consider today
ufo encounters.

And are ufos particularly
are seen kind of coming

From the top,
the crater of mount shasta

And going up or are they
coming out of the side?

- What are... What are
the beliefs there?
- Henry: They're from all over.

It's like-it's like they're
coming out of the mountain

Or that-that they're seen
hovering above it.

It's very strange.

Narrator:
Over the past century,

There have been
more than 50 reports

Of ufo sightings
around mount shasta

With an increasing number
in just the last decade.

Almost everyone who lives there

Has-has seen something unusual.

One of the most remarkable
ufo sightings

I've heard of,
it took place in 2008.

Witnesses in the town of mccloud
saw a ufo

That looked like
a giant glowing jellyfish

Move over the town and then
fly off into the distance.

Walking eagle:
I was driving back

From, uh, klamath falls,
eh, around 7:00,



In the summertime.

All of the sudden
I looked up on the mountain,

And I seen the whole mountain

Toward yreka side open up.

And then this big ship came

And sat there hovered for
a minute and then went right in.

And next thing you know,
the mountain closed,

And I was like,
"what is going on?"

I never let things like that
bother me, though.

I've seen things like that
all the time.

And, you know, what's
interesting about it, too,

Is that the native americans...
There was a group

Of spiritual beings
called the waga

That first came to shasta
and-and started instructing

The local native americans.

And they told this story
that there were giants

That lived in mount shasta.

Giants are often
associated with the stories

- Of bigfoot.
- Henry: Absolutely.

- And mount shasta is also famous
for bigfoot sightings.
- Yes, it is.

In fact, the earliest, uh,

Really popular sightings
of bigfoot

And where the name
bigfoot comes from

Is from northern california

- And around redding.
- Mm-hmm.

Narrator:
Giants? Bigfoot?

Incredibly, similar stories
have been reported

In this area
for hundreds of years.

And in October 1930,
several newspapers detailed

The discovery of a mysteriously
large humanoid skeleton

In the town of redding,



There are traditions
of giants linked

With mount shasta,
which absolutely fascinate me.

And one of these, uh,
goes back quite a long way,

And it's part
of the modoc tribe,

Who are kind of
part of this area.

And they say the sky spirit's
daughter was abducted by a bear,

And she actually gave birth
to a race of giants.

Some people suggest that these
are actually hairy beasts,

Sasquatch-like beings,
connected with mount shasta.

So you've got this
convergence of-of these stories

Of-of massive ufo
sightings, giants, star beings.

This is, like, a hotbed area
up here. It is incredible.

Native americans
in the area around mount shasta

Warned people of
the number of disappearances

- That have taken place up there.
- So mount shasta

Is one of these hot spots

- For disappearing people, then?
- Exactly.

Native americans in the area
around mount shasta say that

The area above the tree line
is sacred.

- And they warn people,
"do not go up there."
- is that so?

Right, which makes it
not surprising to learn

Of the number of disappearances
that have taken place up there.

So mount shasta
is one of these hot spots

- For disappearing people, then?
- Exactly.

Yes, siskiyou county
is the location

That carl disappeared in.

Narrator:
Since 2009,

Former police detective
dave paulides has been

Applying his professional
investigative training

Attempting to solve mysterious
missing persons cases

All around the country.

In ten-plus years,
I've looked at over



And in those,


And I mean that cases

Of possible animal predation
have been vetted out.

Incidents of mental health,
su1c1de, were vetted out.

And what you're left with

Is a complete void
of rational explanation.

The area around mount shasta
has many unusual disappearances.

Narrator:
One of the most
baffling disappearances

That dave has been focusing on

Was reported
on mount shasta in 1999.

On may 25,
three experienced hikers...

Carl landers, milt gaines
and barry gilmore...

Set off from mount shasta's
bunny flat trailhead

Towards the summit.

The guys got up
to a place called 50/50.

It was a place where hikers
that wanted to summit

Would either camp there
or at the next stop,

Called lake helen,
for the night.

The next morning, they get up,
the wind is howling.

The guys were
putting the tent together

And were stashing it
for their climb,

And they saw
that carl was looking cold.

And so they said, "hey, why
don't you go to lake helen's,

And we'll meet you there."

And carl took off walking.

Narrator:
Shortly after carl

Left the 50/50 campsite,

Milt and barry followed.

But when they arrived
at lake helen,

Just 650 feet away,

Carl was nowhere to be found.

Paulides:
Milt gaines, carl's partner,

Got there,
and he didn't see carl.

And now he's confused

Because there's no place
between 50/50

And lake helen to disappear.

There's no obstructions,
you're above timber line,

There's no big, huge boulders

That are gonna get in your way,

And it's a solid snow field
with no crevasses.

That started a week-long
search and rescue

That would rival any
anyone knew about.

Now, one of the things that
was done on the landers case

Is that they checked
with u.S. Geological survey

For seismic activity
on the mountain.

The reason they did that
is that sometimes

There's a...
An avalanche of rock

And maybe the climber
was covered

By the rock
and you wouldn't find them.

During the time
that carl was gone,

There was no seismic activity.

So they know that carl
wasn't covered by rocks.

Narrator:
Remarkably,
in the more than 20 years

Since carl's disappearance,

No one has found any clues

That could explain
what happened to him.

Milt gaines:
I don't know how many people

Have been up avalanche gulch.

But, uh, nothing has been found.

No metal ice axe.
No metal crampons.

No colorful nylon pack or coat

Or black pants or plastic boots.

Nothing.

Paulides:
The search and rescue
coordinator on this event

Was an individual
named grizz adams.

Grizz had been doing
this for 30-plus years.

Grizz said, "dave, I guarantee
carl isn't on that mountain.

He either went up or he went in,
but he isn't on."

Those were his words.

I think that
the comment tells you

That there were few options
for a rational explanation.

And so they-they
never found him,

They have no explanation
for what happened.

[stammers]
everyone's just baffled?

Yeah. Yeah, he's hiking up
the mountain

In sight of his friends
and suddenly disappears.

And do they see him disappear

Or they just look away and they
turn around and he's gone?

Typically,
in those stories, people

Don't actually see them
disappear, but they're

Nearby and they never call out
for help or anything like that.

Then there's the story
of a three-year-old boy.

He's camping
with his parents on shasta,

And he wanders off, disappears.

Narrator:
Another very
unusual disappearance

That dave paulides
investigated near mount shasta

Occurred on September 2, 2011.

Paulides:
A three-year-old boy disappeared

On a camping trip.

And he was later found
by search and rescue,

At one of the first places
they would have looked.

Right next to a trail.

One of the first things
search and rescue people do is,

As they're walking down a trail,
they're calling the boy's name.

- Tommy!
- Hey, tommy!

Hey, tommy, where are you?

Now, if he was near the trail

And he heard that, chances are
he's gonna come and get help.

Cause he'd been
out there overnight.

So to think that
he was next that trail

The whole time
is really hard to understand.

Another unusual aspect
to that story is that this boy

Told a story of,
after going missing,

He was down in some kind
of underground cave...

And a woman
that he thought was a robot

Was there asking him
if he was okay and comfortable.

It was all a very strange story,

Something
I've never heard before.

Narrator:
While the story may sound

Like the product
of a child's imagination,

The search and rescue team
could provide no explanation

For how the boy
went missing for five hours

Only to suddenly turn up
right next to the trail.

Many people
say these disappearances

Are-are just accidents.

But the idea
that somebody disappears

In a location where
there are ufo sightings

And sometimes
reports of entities

Mirrors the idea, perhaps,
of the alien abduction.

Narrator:
Is it possible
that carl landers and others

Who mysteriously disappeared
around mount shasta

Were abducted
by extraterrestrial beings?

Or might there be an even
more profound explanation?

Uh, people are still
disappearing on mount shasta.

- Right.
- This is not something
that has,

- You know, stopped.
- Right.

And it's an open area where,

You know, there's not
that many places to hide,

- E-except by going
inside the mountain.
- Absolutely.

But, once again, this affirms
the... Kind of the mystery,

The strangeness
of mount shasta and says

This is... There's a lot more
going on there than...

Than we really realize.

People are called to mount
shasta and they don't know why.

Mount shasta is also apparently
on a major ley line.

They're a telluric current
of energy going from

Different grid spots
and power spots.

What's going on in mount shasta
is not just in north america.

All over the world
are these power spot mountains

Like mount shasta.

Mount shasta is sometimes said

To be one of the chakras
of the planet, too.

Narrator:
The ancient
sanskrit term "chakra"

Refers to energy centers
in the human body.

In his 1967 book earth chakras,

Author robert co*n
proposed that the planet

Also has energy centers,
and that these

Act as connection points
to otherworldly dimensions.

His list included
mount sinai in egypt,

Mount kailash in tibet,

And mount shasta.

Hugh newman:
There were traditions

Of sacred mountains
all over the world.

This is where the gods
came down, started civilization.

But it's also thought to be

Where communication
with the gods took place

And potentially
where interstellar travel

May have taken place between
this world and other worlds.

It seems that mount shasta
is on some energy line

That's perhaps
connected even to cusco

And lake titicaca,
the great pyramids.

- You know, power spots
and sacred spaces.
- Sure.

Yeah, it's important to bring
up the great pyramid because

It reminds me of mount shasta.

Really?
Okay.

Henry:
First of all, it's a volcano,

And the word "pyramid"
means "fire in the middle."

And underneath
the great pyramid are tunnels.

Same thing here at shasta.

And it makes me think, well,
maybe shasta could've been like

The natural origin
of the idea of the pyramid

As, like, a power center.

But the pyramid is
an artificial construction.

- A lava tube is not artificial,
that's nature.
- Exactly. And what I'm saying is

That perhaps the pyramid
is kind of like

A technological version
of a naturally-occurring

Power center, like a volcano.

Narrator:
The great pyramid of giza,

A power center?

Modeled after a volcano
like mount shasta?

In his 1998 book,
the giza power plant,

Renowned master craftsman
and engineer christopher dunn

Proposed that the great pyramid
was originally designed

And functioned as a power plant.

Two years later, based on
curious erosion patterns

Within the pyramid,
maritime engineer john cadman

Lent his support to this theory.

In the subterranean chamber,
there is some evidence

That shows that there had
been water present in it.

There's water erosion
on the floor,

And then there's also
cavitation damage on the ceiling

Right above the pit,
and that had to have been

From a compression wave.

Narrator:
Cadman concluded
that the great pyramid

Was a gigantic hydraulic pump

That drew water
from the nearby nile river

To generate power.

But if the great pyramid
functioned as a power plant,

What purpose
might it have served?

Ancient astronaut
theorists suggest

Clues can be found
in scared egyptian writings.

Henry:
The pyramid texts describe

The ancient egyptian gods
as extraterrestrials

Coming and going
from two places:

Sirius and orion.

The pyramid itself, according
to the ancient egyptians,

Functioned
as an ascension device,

So everything that we discover
about the great pyramid

Has to be related
to its original function

As a portal
to other star systems

Or other dimensions.

Narrator:
Is it possible that
the great pyramid was designed

By otherworldly visitors to
function as some kind of portal?

And, if so,
could there have been others?

Interestingly,
while the great pyramid

Is a man-made structure,
geologist dr. Robert schoch

Has identified
compelling similarities

That it shares
with mount shasta.

I see many similarities between
mount shasta geologically

And the natural features

It's associated with
and artificial,

Human-constructed pyramids.

Underground flowing water

Can carry a charge,

Build up charge
in certain areas that can then

Migrate to the surface
along faults and fissures

And, in some cases, then escape

As, basically, balls of charge.

Narrator:
Might the unique
geology of mount shasta

Make it the perfect
location for alien beings

To create a portal to other
parts of the universe

Or even other dimensions?

So then, in a sense, it's like
an interdimensional portal

Where beings and craft can shift

To other dimensions,
go to other planets, even?

- Exactly.
- And is it possible
that some of these people

Have disappeared,
have-have actually even

- Been taken off planet
or something?
- That would make sense to me.

I mean, given what
we're-we're hearing about this,

That they could have just
stumbled into some kind of

Portal, as you're suggesting.

I mean, seriously, we've got

Tremendous magnetic energy
there, disappearances,

All kinds of mysterious
incidences like that.

That's fascinating.
William, you went up to

Mount shasta just recently.

Can you tell us
about your experience?

Oh, it was absolutely
mind-blowing.

William, you went upto
mount shasta just recently.

Can you tell us about your
experience and what you learned?

Oh, it was absolutely
mind-blowing.

Went up there
to meet dustin Naef.

He's a local historian.

He-he's one of these guys

That was called to the mountain.

He kept hearing about
the legends and so forth.

He's been investigating it
for many, many years.

Yeah, I've-I've read his books.

And so, you went
to mount shasta, too,

Because of these strange
disappearances, huh?

Absolutely. What's interesting
about this to me is that maybe

It's a case of some kind of

Interdimensional portal
opening up.

This is a very mysterious
part of the world,

Northern california,
where giants were there,

Star people, lost civilizations.

It's magical.

Narrator:
In November 2020,

William henry traveled
to weed, california,

To investigate firsthand
if he could document

Any evidence to help explain
the many ufo sightings,

Baffling disappearances, and
encounters with strange beings

That have been reported
at mount shasta.

And also to explore
the incredible notion

That the mountain might actually

Contain a portal
through space and time.

- Hi, dustin. I'm william henry.
- Hi, william. Glad to meet you.

Local author dustin Naef
has spent years

Investigating the mysteries
of mount shasta.

One story that I think I'm most
excited and interested in

Is these light beings
that are also described

As living within mount shasta.

Can we now tie that
into mu or lemuria?

Yeah, there's a lot of,
you know, supporting evidence,

And I-I think there's
something to the stories.

Lemuria is a civilization

That was quite an advanced
civilization for its time.

And it existed somewhere

Off the pacific coast
of north america.

Narrator:
The existence of a lost
continent named lemuria

Was first proposed by zoologist
philip sclater in 1864.

Curiously, this theory
is corroborated

By the ancient oral traditions
of the native hawaiian people,

Which say that the pacific
islands of the region

Were once part
of a giant continent,

One that was home
to a highly advanced,

Otherworldly civilization.

We do know that there were
some people who got lost,

And this is who we call
the mu or the lemurian people

You might refer to.

They existed at one time,
and then we lost them

Under the ocean.

Mitch horowitz:
In the 19th century,

There were various occult
and esoteric writers,

Including madame h.P. Blavatsky,

Who identified lemuria

As this primordial
human civilization.

And the idea was that some of

Humanity's hidden and occult
roots could be traced back

To this so-called
continent of lemuria.

Pope:
Mount shasta ties in

To the idea of
the lost continent of lemuria.

They were thought to be

Very technologically advanced
ancestors.

Maybe gods,
maybe extraterrestrials.

Whoever these people were,

Some calamity befell them.

And the legend is

That the survivors
of this cataclysm

Took refuge in mount shasta.

Narrator:
Could there really have been

A highly advanced
civilization that existed

On earth thousands of years ago?

And, if so,
could there be any truth

To the notion
that they took refuge

From a devastating cataclysm
in the caves of mount shasta?

One man who was
convinced the story was true

Was prospector j.C. Brown,

Who, in the early 20th century,

Made it his mission
to find the proof.

You know, j.C. Brown

Became really enamored

With the theories
of lemuria and mu.

- Mm-hmm.
- J.C. Brown claims
to have been up here

In 1906 prospecting for gold

When he accidentally unearthed

A tunnel which he describes
as a man-made tunnel.

And about a couple miles in,

He found what he describes
as some kind of, uh, reliquary

Containing all kinds of records
of a lost civilization,

And he describes
finding the bodies

- Of mummified giants.
- Wow.

And one of the things
miners did was they would mark

The environment
with, uh, symbols.

- Mm-hmm.
- And there's a place

Not far from mount shasta

Where I've found
a whole collection

Of these glyphs that
have been carved into rocks.

We know they were made sometime

Between the early 1900s
and the 1940s.

- Mm-hmm.
- And that would have been
the period of time

That j.C. Brown would have been
up in this area

Looking around for things.

Henry:
This reminds me of, uh, in-in
rennes-le-château in France,

Northwest arkansas, oak island,

We find similar
kind of symbols appearing

In these various places

Associated with
treasuries, deposits.

And then this looks like...
Almost like two peaks or a peak

Within a peak, like he's trying
to point you inward

Into the mountain almost.

There's an interesting
twist to this story.

About 30 years later,

J.C. Brown, uh,
returned to stockton,

And his intention
was to raise an expedition

To go back up to this site
and catalog what he found.

And he raised a party
of about 80 different people,

And on the day that
they were supposed to depart

To go up to this site,

Um, he just
mysteriously vanished.

He just vanishes?

Yeah, no one ever
heard from him again.

I wonder if there could be

Some advanced ancient technology

That he didn't fully understand

Associated with portals,

The light beings,
and that sort of thing.

So there are actual tunnels
that we can access today?

Yeah, I can take you to
a place called pluto's cave

Where people report
and experience

A lot of this phenomena
that we've been talking about.

Fantastic. Let's go.

Dustin is very intrigued,
as I am, about the lava tubes

That run underneath shasta that
extend into the inner earth.

But we went into
the pluto cave... this lava tube.

- It's about 20 miles
from mount shasta.
- Okay.

- Childress: Okay, so...
- So these extend for miles.

And how big is the tube?
I mean...

Yeah, were you able
to stand upright?

Henry: No. This was one
was huge. I mean,

These are giant caverns.

-Really?
-And this... the pluto cave...
massive.

- You could drive
a truck through there.
- Really?

- Childress: Okay. Wow.
- Absolutely.

- That's interesting.
- Childress: And people around
there think that if you find

The right lava lube
or something, you can get

Into this city and into...

- Inside mount shasta.
- Exactly. Right.

Narrator:
In November 2020,

William henry along with
author dustin Naef...

- Naef: It's down this path here.
- Set out to explore what is

Known as pluto's cave
several miles north

Of mount shasta.

Henry:
That is just spectacular.

Narrator:
It is here where
numerous eyewitnesses

Claim to have encountered
mysterious beings...

As well as seen evidence

Of possible
interdimensional portals.

Pluto's cave is one
of several natural wonders,

Known as lava tubes,
that crisscross the region.

Schoch:
Mount shasta
is a volcanic mountain.

So volcanic lava tubes
are formed

When you have fast-flowing lava.

And it cools
on the surface of the flow,

So it actually builds a crust,

But the lava continues
to flow in the middle,

And it forms literally a tube.

And these tubes, in some cases,
are very small.

They might
only be a few feet across.

In other cases,

They've been documented
to be 50 feet across.

And some of them
have been documented to be

Not just miles long
but tens of miles long.

Henry:
Check it out, man.

Awesome.

Awesome.

Naef:
So almost all of the mythology
and legends around the place...

It all takes place underground
in the caves and tunnels

Which surround the area.

If you were able
to look underground,

You would just see tunnels

Radiating out
in every direction.

There are actually
native-authored stories

That you could travel
clear into oregon

Completely underground.

Henry:
Yeah. Look at that, dustin.

That's awesome.
Beautiful skylight.

- Naef: This almost makes
like an eye-like symbol.
- Henry: Absolutely. Do you think

- J.C. Brown might have
discovered a cave like this?
- Yeah.

If it was in this area,
it would be very similar

To the cave we're in now.

There's a really big
subculture here

In mount shasta
that has always believed that

These caves and tunnels
contain a civilization

Full of people
just like you and I.

And they come
back and forth through portals

Hidden in these caves.

I've had people actually

Contact me and tell me
they've seen people

In this very cave walk right
into a wall and vanish.

What-what were
these people like?

What did they look like?

They look just like us.

That's how they're able
to travel back and forth

And mingle with humans.

Wow.

Narrator:
One of the most famous reports

Of a being emerging
from within mount shasta

Was made in 1930
by guy warren ballard.

Ballard, a mining engineer
who worked in the area,

Claimed he was surveying
the slopes of the mountain

When he encountered
a mysterious, glowing figure.

Guy reported that when
he was hiking on mount shasta

In the early 1930s,

He encountered
some extraordinary,

Mysterious teacher,

Which he later identified
as the ascended master.

Young:
This is a radiant being
dressed in white.

And they get into
a long conversation.

And this teacher, this guru,

This otherworldly character
teaches ballard

The secrets of enlightenment.

Narrator:
For ancient astronaut theorists,

Ballard's description
of a radiant being

Is reminiscent
of accounts from ancient times

Of similarly luminous figures.

In irish legend, we learn
of the tuatha dé danann,

Or the tua dé dán.

These are luminous
humanoid beings

Who are considered
to be beings of immense wisdom

Who are also called
the shining ones.

Narrator:
Similar to the shining ones
of the celtic tradition,

The ancient sumerian gods,
known as the anunnaki,

Were also described
as glowing figures.

Might these accounts, including
those made about mount shasta,

Be true?

If so, can william henry
find any evidence

To help verify them?

If you look on the usgs charts,

There's an immense
negative magnetic anomaly

That surrounds mount shasta.

Henry:
That's the ley line
they describe here, right?

Naef:
Yeah, a lot of psychic
and paranormal phenomena

Actually occurs in places
that have magnetic anomalies.

And used as a, as a portal

Between the inner
earth realm and the stars?

Yeah, yeah. It... Anything
capable of generating

Energy like that
could be a portal.

Narrator:
Some theoretical
physicists believe

That strong variations
of electromagnetic fields

May create areas that give rise

To exotic phenomena

Like portals
through space and time.

There appears to be, in nature,

The possibility
of crossing thresholds

Of energy, of vorticity,

Of electromagnetic phenomenon...

That can perhaps

Open up portals in space-time

That we never would
have thought possible.

This is, uh,
where I've seen people

- Get readings before.
- Okay.

Well, let's take a look.
See what we got.

I brought my meter with me
just to see

If we can detect
any magnetic energy here.

Okay. It's jumping all over.

Got some movement here.

All right.
We got a reading here.

Very interesting.

Narrator: Several miles north

In northern california,
william henry

And author dustin Naef have just

Detected a mysterious energy
spike in pluto's cave,

A giant lava tube
connected to the mountain.

Yeah, we're getting
a lot of movement here

On the magnetic side.

I can personally feel it,
and then now we got

The readings here
that are backing that up.

And sensitive psychic people

Could follow that line,
follow the trail

- Where, wherever it leads.
- Yeah, a lot of psychic

And paranormal phenomena
actually occurs in places

- That have magnetic anomalies.
- Right.

Naef:
Mount shasta,

It's basically made
of a type of, um, geology

That conducts electricity.

And if you were to look
underneath mount shasta,

You would find reservoirs
of churning water,

Just millions and millions
of gallons of water,

Just churning.

And that creates energy.

And that's one of the theories
about the pyramid...

Is that the tunnels
were used as conduits for water,

That the pyramid is
a power plant and somehow

Water was used
to facilitate that.

Naef:
Exactly. But the same thing is
happening here at mount shasta.

It's just being driven
by natural forces.

So that could explain,
if the pyramid is a machine,

Which is the way
they describe it,

That would explain how people

Can come and go
from mount shasta.

It's like
an interdimensional portal.

Naef:
I-it does go
a long ways to explain

The energy people feel up here.

Because it's a...
Basically an energetic site.

So now that you've returned
from mount shasta,

Did you come to any conclusions?

In the end, I really don't have
a conclusion about mount shasta.

For me, it's a beginning

Because I realize
how much is going on there.

You've got the portal aspect,
you've got the light beings,

You've got the ufos,

You've got the natural geologic
possibilities that are there.

And you've got lemuria.

What makes mount shasta

Fascinating to me
are the questions.

Because clearly there are
so many stories,

So many legends,

So many events

That have been
witnessed by people.

Something clearly
is happening there.

You've got
all this lore and stories

That's coming out of it.

It is rooted
in eyewitness accounts,

It's rooted
in historical accounts,

It's not the stuff of legend.

It's tremendously exciting that
this is in our own backyard.

It's not peru
or the amazon or egypt.

I-it's right here
in northern california.

And what's interesting here,
too, is we have all the stories

Going into antiquity
and-and beginning of time,

But this is something
that's still going on.

Well, gentlemen, this has been
a fascinating conversation,

And this is what science

And the ancient astronaut theory
is all about:

The investigation.

Because, sure, one could just
dismiss the whole thing and say,

"oh, come on. It's nothing."

But something clearly
is happening at mount shasta.

And I think that this merits
even further investigation

Because what if
mount shasta is part

Of this giant riddle
that we're all investigating?
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