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The Apostle Paul

was leaving the next day,

so he spoke until late

into the night.

A young man named

Eutycus was falling asleep

while he sat in the window.

When he was sound asleep

he fell to the ground

from the third story

and he d*ed.

[Roman soldier] Over here!

Someone fell!

What is a miracle?

The birth of a child?

A close call?

Surviving an accident?

A miracle is a supernatural

act of God

in which he interrupts

the normal course of life in an

extraordinary and remarkable way

to accomplish his purposes.

When the natural order

is reversed.

When a deaf person

is now able to hear,

a blind person is now

able to see

where out of death

someone is resurrected to life.

God can do anything he wants,

any time He wants.

When most

people think about miracles,

they think they're on every page

of Scripture.

The average person

throughout biblical history

witnessed miracles all the time.

The truth is absolutely not.

There were intermittent times

in biblical history

when God directly,

without the use of a person,

simply performed a miracle.

If we get a little bit

more specific, we might ask

What is the gift of miracles?

Or who was a miracle worker?

The gift of miracles was a gift


to a supernaturally endowed


God worked miracles through that

individual, confirming that

that individual was a spokesman

and representative for God.

When Moses said,

What if I don't believe me,

God says, I'm going to give you

the power to work miracles

so that I will believe you that

you're speaking on my behalf.

The miracles

were given to validate

that they are a mouthpiece

for God, that He is

a man sent by God

to speak on behalf of God.

In First Kings 17,

we have Elijah meeting

with the widow.

There's a famine in the land.

And then we have the widow's

son dying.

The widow

thinks that she's under

some sort of judgment.

Through Elijah,

the Lord miraculously raises

this young boy

back to life.

The widow's response in

verse 24 is very instructive.

And the woman said to Elijah,

Now, I know that

you are a man of God,

and that the word of the Lord in

your mouth is truth.

There were times

three of them in Scripture

when God gave to men

the power to work miracles.

There is, first of all,

the time of Moses and Joshua

1400 years before Christ,

a period of about 65 years.

Then you fast forward to

the time of Elijah and Elisha.

You're about 800 years

before Christ, and there again

you have a period

of about 65 years

when God was giving men

the power to work miracles.

The next period of time

like that comes

in the time of Jesus

and the apostles.

And that stems from

the beginning of his ministry

to at the very latest,

the death of John.

There you have another period

of 65, 70 years.

Those were the three epochs.

And in each case

it was to confirm those men

as his messengers.

The purpose of miracles

in the Ministry of Christ

in the Apostles fits exactly

in line with the patterns

we see in the Old Testament.

So when God gave extraordinary

signs and wonders to people

like Moses, Elijah and Elisha,

he did the same thing

to the Lord Jesus Christ.

But here is the Son of God

coming in person

and human flesh.

He did miracles

as his day to day

work to show

that he was the Son of God,

the messenger from the Father,

the true and ultimate prophet.

We ought

to give more earnest heed

to the things that we've heard

than what people heard

under the old Testament


because God confirmed

by signs and wonders

and gifts of the Holy Spirit,

the words of those

who heard Him,

who were the apostles.

The word apostle comes

from the Greek word Apostolos,

which means sent one.

And it wasn't something that was

unique to Jesus apostles.

If the Emperor ever sent

somebody out with a message

from the Emperor, he was called

an apostle of the Emperor.

And the message that he carried

was every bit as authoritative

as if the emperor

was speaking himself.

So if you were to reject

the message

of the emperors apostle,

it would be like

rejecting the Emperor.

Or if you were to att*ck

the apostle, it would be like

attacking Caesar himself.

And the Apostle Paul's

letter to the church of Ephesus,

he uses the metaphor

of a spiritual temple

to describe the church.

And he says in chapter two,

verse 20 that it is

built on the foundation

of the apostles and prophets,

with Christ Jesus himself

being the cornerstone.

So as God was establishing

the foundation of the church

upon the person and work of

Christ, he called men,

known as apostles and prophets

to be foundation builders.

As his apostles, theyre

the foundation of the church.

What they say,

Christ says, what they assert

about his ministry is true.

The Stone

that the builders rejected

has become

the cornerstone of the Church.

Jesus chose the Apostles

to further reveal

the mystery of the Church.

And finally, God provided

various other prophets

within the Church

while the New Testament

was still being written.

This is the foundation of

the church, according to Paul,

in Ephesians

2:20, the Apostles and Prophets

with Christ

as the chief cornerstone.

It doesnt make any sense

to think that the foundation

of a building goes

all the way to the roof.

It's the foundation.

This is an historical assertion

that the Apostolate

was limited to the foundation

period of church history.

When you see the early

discussions about the canon

and which books are canonical,

as we would say,

one of the tests of

canonicity was

Does this book have apostolic


Or is it given a kind of stamp

of approval by the Apostles?

Now, why is that?

It's because the Apostles had

certain promises granted to them

by the Lord Jesus Christ,

and those promises

related to the ministry

of the Holy Spirit in their

speaking and in their writing.

And so the reason why we can say

with confidence that the canon

is closed

is because

we no longer have

those apostles.

To be a legal proxy

for Jesus, to be a true apostle,

four things had to be true.

You had to be hand

picked, chosen by Christ.

You had to be taught by Christ.

You had to witness

the resurrected Christ.

You had to see him risen.

The fourth qualification

it's found with the 11 in

Matthew 10, when Jesus said,

I'm sending you out to represent

me and I'm going to give you

the power to work miracles

to confirm the revelation that's

going to come through you.

Miraculous gifts were given

during those early years

where they were proclaiming

in many cases for the first time

in a region the event

and the significance of Christ's

life, death,

resurrection and ascension.

When Paul defends

his Apostleship

in Second Corinthians 12,

he refers to these gifts

as the signs of an apostle

miraculous abilities

that either

the apostles alone had or

there were cases where they

could lay hands on someone

and give them those gifts.

But always in the New Testament,

when those miraculous gifts

are manifest, it is in

in the presence of an apostle.

We know that

there is no apostle today

roaming around planet Earth.

So with that, the actual gifts

that were associated

with those apostles

have likewise ceased.

The gifts

that authenticated the apostles,

which were the sign gifts,

particularly gifts

of healing and miracles,

and then the gifts

that were associated

with prophets,

which were the revelatory gifts

which would have included


A Cessationist is one

who believes

that those gifts ceased

after the apostolic age

with the death of the Apostle

John around the year 100.


gifts passed off the scene.

A Continuationist

is someone who believes

that the extraordinary gifts,

prophecy, tongues and healing

have continued and therefore

they should be pursued

and exercised by

Christians today.


including Pentecostal

and charismatic groups,

believe that the New Testament

encourages them to participate

in the miraculous gifts.

They find this idea in chapters

12 to 14 of First Corinthians,

where Paul discusses

the gifts of healing

tongues and prophecy at length,

and even charges

the Corinthian church

to earnestly desire

these gifts of the spirit.

Yes, we should be seeking

the gifts for sure.

We want the Holy Spirit

to gift us so that we might care

for one another

in the body of Christ.

But in the era

of the Corinthian church,

the foundation

was still being laid.

They did need the sign gifts.

We're not in that era anymore.

There is no mention

in the second half

of the first century of signs

and wonders and miracles.

Once you pass the book

of First Corinthians,

there is no more mention

of any miracles

being performed by any apostle.

He writes nine letters

to different churches, six

different churches

after the First Corinthians.

You look at the pastoral

epistles written for the ongoing

life of the church.

First Timothy.

Second Timothy

Titus instructing pastors

how to conduct life

in the church.

And there's no mention

of the miraculous gifts.

You have this lessening

of the miraculous

as the canon of Scripture moves

toward its completion.

You have in Acts, for example,

Paul would send pieces

of fabric out.

People would be healed by that.

That's not happening anymore.

And it wasn't happening

in Paul's time


because when he learned that

Timothy had a stomach ailment,

he writes to him and says,

Take a little wine

for your stomachs sake.

He doesn't

send him a handkerchief.

There's no expectation

that some healer is going

to come and heal Timothy.

Paul in Philippians, when

he was so overtaken

almost by grief

because of the sickness of his

dear friend, and certainly if

if the Apostle Paul still had

this miraculous gift of healing,

he could have done something

about it.

But instead he

recognized there's

no sense

in which that's still happening,

even at the time of Philippians.

Then you see

the next generation.

It becomes churches like ours

where there aren't apostles,

but they're looking back on that


The writer of Hebrews writing

just before the destruction

of the temple, he says, the Lord

spoke this gospel.

It was confirmed to us by those

who heard meaning the Apostles

and the Apostles were allowed

to work.

Signs in miracles

to confirm that message.

And so even the writer

of Hebrews,

writing under the auspices

of the Apostles, he says,

I'm not working miracles.

That's not happening now.

The writer of Hebrews

is looking back and saying

those things were foundational.

That's not the norm anymore.

Miracles, signs,

wonders, and especially direct

Voice of God only occurs

in three significant eras,

which then was written down

and inscriptuated

in the inspired Word of God.

He spoke directly to Moses.

But then Moses

wrote those things down.

Same thing with the prophets.

God did many miraculous things,

but then those were written down

and became inspired Scripture.

Same thing with Jesus

and the Apostles.

Many miracles confirming

that Jesus was the Son of God.

But then the revelation

that was given

during that transitional period

is what we know today

as the New Testament.

And between those key eras

in the progress

of redemptive history

there are long periods

in which God did not

directly speak to people

as a normal experience.

Rather, he expected them

to trust the sufficiency

of what he had written.

And we are in one of those

periods now where we ought

to trust the confirmed word

that God has given to us,

looking for that blessed hope

when Jesus will come again.

But we ought to not expect

that God will be doing

miraculous things, signs and

speaking directly from heaven


we have a sufficient word.

Jesus rebuked

even those in his own day

that sought signs and wonders

to validate putting their faith

in Christ, saying in Matthew

16:4, a wicked

and adulterous

generation looks for a sign.

Later, the apostle Peter

described the glory

of personally seeing Jesus

during his transfiguration.

Peter was an eyewitness

of Christ glory,

but he says in the second Peter

1:19, that the prophetic word

is even more sure

than his experience.

Peter even participated

in miracles himself.

But he points to the Scripture

as a more sure


The Bible does

not instruct us to seek

after signs and wonders.

Instead, we are told

to stop seeking those things

and to trust

in the finished Word.

The early church fathers knew

that they were not apostles.

They knew that

there was something distinct

about the apostles and distinct

about the apostolic age.

And so when you get to,

for example, John Chrysostom

in the East and Augustine

around that same time

period in the West,

both Chrysostom

and Augustine are very clear

that they believe that

the extraordinary, miraculous

sign gifts ceased after

the end of the apostolic age.

And that was the de

facto view of Bible believing

Christians throughout really

all of subsequent

church history,

including the Reformation.

The view of the church

has been decidedly Cessationist.

Then you had a group

of Continuationists,


Evangelical Continuationists

who have tried

to find examples of miraculous

gifts throughout church history.

But the reality is,

in order to find evidence

of the miraculous gifts

throughout church history,

the modern continuationist

has to redefine

what those gifts are,

what those gifts were.

They generally do so

by pointing to fringe movements

and fringe groups

like the Montanist movement,

which was declared a heresy

by the early church.

Now, in the case, the

Montanists, they make claims

that they are actually

the fulfillment of Christ's

promise of the Comforter

of the Holy Spirit.

They are the ones

who are bringing new revelation

to the church,

as well as declaring that

that Christ was coming

very soon,

even right after their lifetimes

or before the

end of their lifetimes,

which didn't come to pass.


and the Montanist movement

was soundly rejected

by the early church.

And so in the second century,

the early church rejected

what was tantamount

to the charismatic movement.

Later on, as we see,

particularly after

the periods of persecution,

Constantine has come into power.

Christianity has become


That's the time period

where we see mass expectation

of the miraculous.

You do have a kind of


developing in Roman Catholicism.

Their notion of

canonizing certain people

as saints was built upon

the notion of the continuation

of miraculous signs.

One story says that

when Saint Patrick

was baptized as an infant.

The priest was blind

and couldn't

read the baptismal order.

So he took the baby's

hand, made the sign of the cross

over the ground,

and a spring of water burst

forth to wash the priest's eyes.

And his vision was restored and

he could perform the baptism.

Oh, that's just crazy

legendary stuff.

Other miracle stories

are associated

with the supposed power

of relics of dead saints,

or the bread

and wine of the Eucharist,

which were, of course,

believed to be Christ's

actual body

and his actual blood.

And then you come to the

period of the Reformation.

It's very clear

that the magisterial reformers,

Lutheranism and reform movement

coming out of them

rejected on the one

side, Roman Catholicism.

On the other side,

they were rejecting

the anabaptism,

believing in the revival

of the miraculous gifts.

The Zwickau

prophets, Thomas Muntzer,

Melchior Hofmann, Jan Matthys,

all of whom demonstrated

themselves to be false prophets.

They claimed that

the Holy Spirit

was telling them

to incite revolution,

telling them

that the New Jerusalem

would be in places

like Strasbourg

or Mnster, Germany.

Obvious false prophecies.

And the reformers denounced them

in no uncertain terms.

In fact, Martin Luther quipped

that the radical reformers

had swallowed the Holy Spirit

feathers and all,

which was his way of saying

they had a distorted view

of the Holy Spirit.

And then they had gone

headlong after that distortion

to be in Rome with a Roman

pontiff who believes that he's

speaking on behalf of the spirit

and in doing

so is burying the word of God.

To be

there is not to be Protestant

and biblical

and to be an Anabaptist.

The Charismatics of his day,

or someone who believes that

the Holy Spirit is speaking

through all sorts of people

outside of the Word of God

and thus bury the Word of God

is also not to be Protestant.

In other words,

to believe in Sola Scriptura

is to be a Cessationist.


fundamental to Protestantism.


if you are not a Cessationist,

you are not historically

a Protestant.

The reformed Orthodox

in the Puritans

consistently dismissed

the idea that miraculous gifts

of the Spirit continued

after the foundational period

of the Christian church.

in terms of the origins of

the modern charismatic movement.

I think we have to start

with someone like John Wesley

in the mid 18th century

in the Evangelical

Awakening in England.

He held a two stage

view of sanctification

that believers are converted

and then they live

kind of an up and down

Christian life for a while.

And then it's possible

at a later point post conversion

to have an experience

that elevates you

to a higher plane of spiritual

existence or living.

And in Wesley's view,

you could actually attain

perfection in this life

prior to glory.

He called that second experience

the second blessing.

And one of his successors,

a man named John Fletcher,

actually associated that with

the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Then, a century later, during

the second Great Awakening,

you have that two stage view

of sanctification

combined with the emotionalism

that was popularized by Charles

Finney and others.

You set the stage

for Charles Parham,

who was a Wesleyan

Holiness minister, to suggest

that maybe the second blessing

ought to elevate us to a place

where, as Christians,

we experience

the same miraculous sign gifts

that the Apostles experienced

in the Book of Acts.

It wasn't really

until the beginning

of the 20th century

that the Charismatic Movement

began in earnest.

There were people

who had tinkered with

healing gifts and healing

claims up to that point.

But the gift of tongues

first manifest itself really on

the very first day

of the 20th century.

on January 1st, 1901.

Agnes Ozman,

who was one of the women

who was studying

under Charles Parham,

she began speaking in tongues.

Other students

also began speaking in tongues,

became known as Pentecostalism,

because the idea is

that they were speaking

in the very same

kinds of tongues as the apostles

on the day of Pentecost.

And that,

of course, is important

because the Apostles on

the day of Pentecost

were speaking in genuine human

foreign languages,

which they had never learned.

And Agnes Ozman, Charles Parham,

they all insisted that

they also were speaking in

genuine human foreign languages,

which they had never learned.

In fact, Agnes

Ozman claimed to be speaking

in the Chinese language.

Pictures of her

writing survived.

You look at those pictures

and it's not Chinese text

at all.

It's just scribbling.

One of his students,

William J. Seymour

came out to Los Angeles,

and it was

while he was teaching in

some of those churches

that revival broke out.

And it's known as the Azusa

Street Revival of 1906.

And it was characterized

again by speaking in tongues.

Azusa Street

is what got Pentecostalism

really started.

And you have a number

of Pentecostal denominations

that grow out of that,

such as the Foursquare Church

and the Assemblies of God.

Azusa Street Revival represents

the first wave

of the Pentecostal

and charismatic Movement.

You have

the original Pentecostal first

wave Asuza Street,

the second wave, the Charismatic

Renewal Movement,

and the third wave,

the continuationist

charismatic movement

within evangelicalism.

Some of the

best known leaders

throughout the 20th century

in the Charismatic Movement

turned out to be fakes

and frauds and

and for various reasons,

discredited themselves.

John G. Lake, Amy Semple


Smith Wigglesworth

or Kathryn Kuhlman

They were theological heretics.

They were prolific

false prophets.

Most of them

were sexually immoral.

So how is it

that these great generals

of the Charismatic Movement,

these men and women

that God supposedly

used to bring about the greatest

move of His Holy Spirit

since Pentecost were false

prophets, liars, charlatans,

and sexually immoral?

And now here's

the host of the PTL Club

the president of the PTL

television network, Jim Bakker.

It actually got worse

from there.

Please welcome the Colonel,

Colonel Sanders to PTL.

The once sacred

turf of television evangelism

has been slipping

and sliding of late due

to the disillusioning scandals

of some of the key players

In the eighties and nineties

you had a series of scandals

with Jim Bakker and

Jimmy Swaggart

Swaggart is stepping down

from his powerful TV ministry

while the Assembly of God Church

investigated him

for having an affair

with a prost*tute.

I have

sinned against you, my Lord.

I have sinned against you,

and I beg your forgiveness.

Jim and Tammy

Faye Bakker and the continuing

saga of the PTL Club have taken

on the irresistible dimensions

of a national soap opera.

Jim Baker was found guilty

on all 24 counts

of wire

and mail fraud and conspiracy.

What's remarkable

is that every one of those men

continued in ministry

and were still accepted

by segments

of the Charismatic Movement.

Dr. Michael Brown is here.

A joy to be back

with all of you.

Thank you.

That doesn't

disqualify a Charismatic.

If you can prove he's a fraud

that works all the way

up to someone like Todd Bentley,

who is probably as despicable

a character as ever,

took the stage

in the name of religion.

He had these ugly

fascinations with v*olence

and low brow

means of supposedly healing.

It took a long time,

a remarkably long time

for even some of the better


to say, no,

this guy is not real.

He's dangerous.

I remember early on

when he came on the scene,

people asked John Piper

what he thought of him.


was reluctant to say anything.

He said, I just want to watch

and see.

To turn to

the miraculous gifts tongues,

healing, prophecy.

Where would you say

the place for those gifts

would be in the life

of the church today?


I would want my people to know

I believe in those things.

I want them to flourish

in those things.

You could say got

a word of knowledge for us?

Got a word of prophecy?

If you're scared of that

kind of language, you can say

has got impressed

upon you, in some way,

Something that you think

somebody in this room

or all of us need to hear

from your walk with God?

And open yourself up

to that.

Piper, Storms,

and Grudem, and Carson

describe themselves

as open but cautious.

So here you have

guys with at

least some reformed inclination.

They have been working

really hard to say

They believe in a closed canon

and Sola Scriptura,

even though they also want

to say that they in some sense

they believe in the continuation

of prophecy in tongues.

Once you open the door to the

modern charismatic teachings,

how is your urge

and your prompting

of the Spirit of God different

than Benny Hinn?

And who's to say who's right

in the issue?

I'm not suggesting that anyone

who claims to be a reformed

Charismatic should be classified

in the same category

as a Benny Hinn.

But Benny Hinns

positions are very much

connected to the idea

that God is still

speaking today.

So if someone says

God spoke to me, it

becomes the ace of spades

and it trumps everything.


that's the historic trap.

If you go all the way

back to the Garden of Eden,

you see that

the serpent that he tempts Eve

in such a way as to suggest

that God's Word wasn't enough.


theology has influenced

and affected

so much of our thinking and our

our theology in ways

that we don't often recognize.

And I think that's probably

the most true with our worship

Worship today,

there is this expectation

that if

the Holy Spirit is present

and if we are truly worshiping,

there's sort of going to be this

tangible felt presence of God

which doesn't find

any root in Scripture.

There's no description

in the New Testament of that

sort of expectation that comes

from the charismatic movement

in this expectation

of the signs and wonders

and the felt presence of God.

In fact,

the praise and worship movement,

the praise and worship

theology comes directly

out of Pentecostalism

and Charismaticism.

But it has now branched

beyond Charismaticism

to where even churches

who don't affirm

the continuation of sign gifts,

who claim to be Cessationist,

nevertheless worship

as if we are expecting

this sort of felt

presence of God in the context

of corporate worship.

The Charismatic Movement is

extraordinary in church history.

It's the first time

that these

sort of miracle claims

have moved in to the mainstream

and become what probably if you

just did a numerical count,

you'd find it's a majority

who believe these claims.

And yet most of the claims

are pretty easily falsifiable.

My name is Andreas.

I come from Switzerland

and I'm a former

Charismatic, now Cessationist.

Virgil Walker.

I have been involved in

what was called the COGIC

Church. Church of God in Christ.

I'm Kofi and for really 17

years of my life,

I grew up as a Pentecostal


My name is Becky,

and I come from a Pentecostal

Foursquare denomination


I think what attracted me to the

denomination was the passion,

you know, the excitement

to being actually

excited to go to church,

wanting to go to church.

We went to church.

People spoke in tongues,

People laid hands on people

and they fell out.

Friday night

you would come to church.

They would have these

purging sessions

and the pastor would walk down

the aisles and lay

hands on people and they would

kind of convulse to the floor.

He was speaking in tongues

over us.

My sister was there,

and then she fell.

And then I'm like,

I'm going to fall.

I'm going to fall.

And then I just eventually fell.

People prophesied.

And for me,

that was just normal.

Everyday Christianity is what

Christians did.

You're expecting to have

those things happen to you.

Everyone else

is in this state of mind.

I want to

say it's some sort of hypnosis.

All the spiritual exercises

that are there really began

to cause cracks somewhat

in my Christian worldview.

So I had to figure out

what's really going on

in this movement.

When you compare

the biblical gift

of prophecy, tongues

and healing to the modern

continuationist version,

what you find

is that prophecy, tongues,

and healing in the New Testament

meant something way different

than the way in which

those same terms are being used

In the modern charismatic world.

Continuationists have redefined

the gifts showing the disconnect

between what's happening today

and what was actually happening,

that was truly miraculous

in the New Testament.

The first time

the word prophet is mentioned in

the Bible is in Genesis,

but there's not much definition

given to it. The first time

there's definition

given as an Exodus

chapter seven.

It's a fascinating passage

because what the Lord does

is he explains to Moses

how his relationship to Aaron

is supposed to work

and how Aaron is supposed

to preach to Pharaoh.

And what he says is Moses,

in this scenario,

you are going to be like me

and Aaron is going to be

like a prophet.

You'll speak to Aaron, and Aaron

will say

what you said to Pharaoh.

And so it shows the relationship

between the Prophet

as the recipient

of God's revelation

and what he is charged to do.

What the real prophet does

is quite simply,

he's given a message by the Lord

and he proclaims it to the one

to whom the Lord told Him

to proclaim it.

The biblical word

that we translate as prophet

literally means mouthpiece.

The prophet

became God's functional mouth

by which God would speak.

God use the man as an instrument

to immediately

deliver his exact message,

not by

bypassing the Prophet's mind,

but by preserving the exact

words that God intended for him

to speak.

A true could not speak error

in the name of the Lord

because God supernaturally

protects his own message.

As with everything else

in the Bible,

you have the real thing

and you can have counterfeits.

And so the Bible speaks a great

deal about false prophets.

I mean, they were actually

to be ex*cuted.

Why would that be?

Because God guards

his own revelation.

He magnifies his word.

Above all is his holy name,

we're told, in Scripture.

And so those who come claiming

to speak on God's behalf

in the name of God

with the very Word of God, are

held to very, very, very high

standards of accountability.

And those who are proven

false ended up therefore

having to suffer very, very,

very high forms of

punishment as a result.

You go back through

the Old Testament prophets

and you read in Ezekiel

and Jeremiah

about how the Lord describes

the false prophets

who took his name

and his word upon their mouth

and began to say things that God

had not directed them to say.

And the Lord has these

scathing rebukes

for these false prophets,

where he says,

they say that I sent them,

but I have not sent them,

and they claim to speak for me,

but I have not spoken by them.

And then the Lord says,

I will therefore

judge these false prophets.

And some of the severest

judgment is upon

those who claim to speak for God

but were not in fact

hearing from God.

What are the gravest dangers

of the Charismatic movement is

that they will put words in

God's mouth

and they think nothing of it

at all.

I believe prophecy,

if I can steal Wayne Grudems

simple phrase,

is simply speaking forth

in merely human words

What God has spontaneously

brought to mind.

Theyre subtle faint

impressions, like little nudges

and divine hints,

and that individual then

speaking forth what they sensed

God had been saying.

They say things like,

I feel the Lord is telling me.

I sense

the Lord is speaking to my heart

and that

and He might want me to do this.

I think this is what the Lord

might be trying to tell me.

Here's what I believe

the Holy Spirit has impressed

upon my heart.

For the year of 2023,

the rise of the Wild Ones

to be able to confront systems

that have been oppressing

God's people.

The Lord's also

been speaking to me


about relationships,

and He's going to change

your circles

to change your levels.

You need to evaluate it,

need to determine whether or not

this really,

in fact,

is something that we could have

some degree of

confidence is from God.

I gave prophetic words

to people, to someone

have a word, and it was like

that adrenaline starts to come.

And I remember

just saying something like,

you know,

the Lord wants our obedience.

If we could only obey God

in 80 percent

of that obedience,

then give that 80 percent.

Give 100 percent

of that 80 percent.

You know?

So dumb.

the way it was often

explained was, yes, God

gave us the Bible for sort of

general moral direction

and telling us the truth

about him,

but for a specific direction.

This is how God acts as a loving

father to us.

You know, he doesn't just

leave us to figure out things.

Sometimes he will directly speak

to us and tell us what we need

to know, Tell us what to do,

give us direction in real time.

For example, if I say that

the Holy Spirit spoke to me.

Take this job.

Don't take this job,

but take this job.

It's a word from the Lord.

So there is love Bible,

the Word of God.

And then through history,

God has led his people,

spoken to His people,

directed his people.

He continues to do that,

but it's not the Bible.

So there are two completely

separate animals.

The view of continuing

revelation would in fact lower

people's view of Scripture.

When we have these

two sources of revelation,

the the me-specific voice

inside of my head,

and then this object of thing

that was spoken 2000 years ago

when those two things

were in conflict,

which one do you think ends up

giving way to the other?

It's always the word of God

that ends up getting redefined,

reinterpreted or pushed off

to the side or ignored in favor

of the personal, fresh, modern,

intimate revelation from God.

The problem with

the Charismatic Movement today

is that they don't have

a single prophet who has

been 100 percent accurate.

The honest Charismatics

will admit that they are wrong

far more often

than they are right.

If you used a magic eight ball

to make all of your choices,

you'd be right

at least half the time.

And charismatic prophets

are wrong more often than that.

So I ask

what is the value of this gift?

As a younger prophet,

I've tried to do the best

that I can,

you know, to kind of navigate

the plans of the Lord that

I had had a series of dreams.

At the end of 2020,

I had seen Donald Tr*mp

being elected president.

Many of the modern day

prophets made a lot of news

with their presidential

prophecies, their prophecies

of who would win the 2020

United States

presidential election.

Of course,

all of them, 100% of them,

prophesied that Donald Tr*mp

would win reelection

in November of 2020,

and he would serve a second

consecutive term

in the White House.

The fireman prophet

also predicts the church will

thrive. Will be an eight year



When I

woke up this morning, I heard

four years.


Well, obviously

that did not happen.

And they just did this

massive face plant.

I really want to apologize,

sincerely apologize,

for missing the prophecy

about Donald Tr*mp.

I prophesied that he would win

another term,

and I was completely wrong.

We went through this season of

me offering a letter of apology

to the Body of Christ

for what I believe was a miss.

It doesn't make me

a false prophet, but it does

actually create

a credibility gap.

I want to look into the reasons

why there is a

disconnection there.

In what I heard.

They also failed

to prophesy COVID coming

even when COVID did come

Then they began to prophesy

that it would be gone

by April of 2020.

Well, that didn't happen.

I command this this, this virus

to to to leave both,

to leave people's

minds, to leave people's hearts,

to leave, to leave the earth.

I just, I command this virus to

leave right now in Jesus name,

in biblical times, if you get up

and you speak in God's name

and that's not God's Word,

you were stoned to death.

But today somebody does that

and either it's inconsequential

or it doesn't come true,

nothing happens.

It's just another day ending

in Y

in the Charismatic community,

They at least should be


If the word ends up false

or wrong, let's call it wrong

False sounds like he got a demon

or something.

You know, a false word.

That means like the brothers got

horns, you know, he missed it.

He just missed it.

If they humble themselves and

say, okay, we got this wrong.

We apologize for hurting

your faith and misleading you.


figure out what went wrong.


Then we don't throw them

under the bus

and we work it out.

How did this go wrong?

How did so many

hear the wrong thing?

And I believe there are actually

some simple answers

to those questions.

I was not aware that I was under

the power of witchcraft

so severely.

I was confronted by a couple

of prophets who said, We're here

to break the power of witchcraft

off of you.

It's been a pretty wild ride.

And I was going to say,

I can see the peace on you.

We've had some different things

that are said over 30 years

and we've put out statements

and said, this was wrong.

And you know

what? We're not quitting.

But the guy said it was wrong.

It's not a big deal.

Ive never had to make a public

apology for a bad prophetic word

that I've given.

This is my very first time.

I know Ill learn from it.

[sucks teeth]

And they're

back on TV in the next week

filling auditoriums

and conferences.

No consequences, whatever.

Charismatics will acknowledge

that Old Testament

prophets were held to a standard

of 100 percent perfection.

But they somehow say that, well,

in the New Testament,

prophets today arent held

to the same standard

that the Old Testament

prophets were.

The New Testament gift differs

from that which Isaiah or Daniel

or some other Old Testament

prophet spoke

in the Old Testament

If you said it wrong

once, you're false.

But in the New Testament

we judge one another.

And the reason

we judge one another,

because there are

some things said wrong.

The Charismatic scholar Wayne

Graham states

that prophecy in ordinary

New Testament churches

was not equal

to Scripture in authority,

but was simply a very human

and sometimes partially mistaken

report of something

that the Holy Spirit

brought to someone's mind.

The Continuationist view of

ongoing prophecy,

allows for modern prophets

to speak on God's behalf

with less than perfect accuracy

because they have concluded

that prophets in the New

Testament operate differently

than Old Testament prophets.

In their view,

God gives a direct revelation

to the prophets mind,

but the mind of the Prophet

is not protected from

mishearing, misinterpreting,

or otherwise misrepresenting

God's true revelation.

They believe that this results

in a prophecy that is a mixture

of God's true revelation

and the prophets own thoughts.

The resulting prophecy

might even be completely false,

since the prophet

so misunderstood

God's word to them.

In this way

they end up believing

that there are true prophets

who can make false prophecies.

Prophecy when it comes,

is like pure, like spring water.

It's delicious, right?

The person giving

it is like a rusty old pipe.

And then by the time

it gets to me, I'm like, Oh,

and they give me a word.

And I go, Yeah,

that's not, none of that's true.

None of that's true.

I appreciate that the brother

stepped out in faith to do it


But he was, in fact, wrong.


And that's going to happen.

I'm not saying they're false


I'm just saying they're bad


There's a difference between a

false prophet and a bad prophet.

False prophet has an evil heart.

A bad prophet

just gets everything wrong.

The question is what

What is a false prophet?

In Acts chapter

21, Agabus prophesies about Paul

Agabus said that the,

that the Jews would bind to Paul

and they would hand him over

to the Gentiles.

What actually happened

is that the Gentiles

bound Paul

and turned him over to the Jews.

Now, what's the point?

The point is,

is that there's a difference

between a bad prophetic word and

a false prophet.

So in

attempting to make the case

for the second tier

of New Testament prophecy,

they look for examples

in the New Testament

of prophets

who got their prophecy wrong.

And the problem is

there are no examples.

but they attempt

to find an example

in chapter 21

with the Prophet Agabus.

So here's Agabus.

He predicted a famine.

He's well known as a prophet

in the Jerusalem church,

and well know

probably amongst the apostles

because of the predicting

that famine.

Agabus - a prophet - was wrong.

Agabus gave a prophecy.

He takes Paul's belt

and he says,

thus says the Holy Spirit. Paul,

when he gets to

Jerusalem, is going to be bound

by the Jews with his belt

and delivered

over to the Romans.

And then when you read later

in Acts 21,

Paul gets to Jerusalem and

he is accosted by a Jewish mob.

And then the Romans show up

and take Paul into custody.

And Continuationists

look at that.

And they say, see,

Agabus got the general scope

of his prophecy correct,

but he got the details wrong.

There are two core elements

to Agabus prophecy.

Number one, that he would be

bound by the Jews,

and number two, that he would be

delivered over to the Romans.

Luke says that Paul was seized

and dragged by the mob

there in the temple.

When Paul appears

before Agrippa, he again

says that the Jews seized me in

the temple.

Paul was restrained in some way

and the natural

implication of the text

is that what Agabus said

would happen did happen,

and Luke just didn't find it

necessary to repeat the detail

That was obviously predicted

from beforehand.

How did the Jews sieze Paul?

It's likely

that they tethered him

using his own belt

just as Agabus prophesied.

What about the delivering over?

When the Roman soldiers arrive,

the Jewish mob

backs away and hands

Paul over to the Romans.

And to make that point crystal

clear all the way in Acts

chapter 28, when Paul is meeting

with Jewish leaders in Rome,

he says explicitly

using the exact same word

that he was delivered over

from Jerusalem to the Romans.

Paul didn't think that Agabus

got any of the details

of his prophecy wrong.

Luke doesn't imply

that he got any of the details

of his prophecy wrong.

When you look through church

history at Bible interpreters,

no one even imagines

the possibility that Agabus

got his prophecy wrong.

It's not until the modern 20th

century Continuationist

view of prophecy

that anyone even suggests

that Agabus got the details


It's not so much that I'm

defending Agabus reputation.

Agabus is in heaven.

He doesn't care.

It's that Agabus

is quoting the Holy Spirit,

and Luke records

that quote under the inspiration

of the Holy Spirit.

So we have a quote

from the Holy Spirit

recorded in the Holy Spirit

inspired Scriptures.

If you're telling me

that the details of that quote

are wrong, you're telling me

that the Holy Spirit

got something wrong

and that is blasphemous.

No new

definition of prophecy

is given by Jesus Christ.

No new definition of prophecy

can be found

any place in the New Testament.

And in fact, the Jews,

to whom the teaching of Jesus

and the Apostles came,

would have rejected

a new definition of prophecy

when they had in their canon

a very clear definition

of prophecy already.

In Deuteronomy 18, Moses


the coming of the

ultimate New Testament

Prophet Jesus Christ himself.

He then tells the people

as they look

forward to this prophet,

exactly how they are

to differentiate false prophets

from true prophets.

He instructs.

If you say in your heart,

how may we know the word

that the Lord has not spoken?

When a prophet speaks

in the name of the Lord,

if the word does

not come to pass or come true,

That is a word

the Lord has not spoken.

The Prophet has spoken it


And again Moses tells us

how such a self-proclaimed

prophet is to be viewed.

The prophet

who presumes to speak a word

in my name

that I have not commanded him

to speak,

that same prophet shall die.


18 says that a prophet

who gets his prophecy

wrong is presumptuous.

And second Peter 2

says false teachers will speak

arrogant words of presumption,


they're going to speak things

that will not come to pass out

of their own presumption.

The gift of prophecy

in the New Testament

was held to the same standard

as the gift of prophecy

in the Old Testament.

Behold, I am against

those who prophesy lying

dreams, declares the Lord,

and who tell them and lead

my people astray by their lies

and their recklessness

when I did

not send them or charge them.

Do not listen

to the words of the prophets

who prophecy to you,

filling you with vain hopes.

They speak visions

of their own minds,

not from the mouth of the Lord.

The Prophet Jeremiah makes it

abundantly clear where the

visions and dreams of today's

so-called prophets come from.

Their words are completely

coming from their own minds.

God has not spoken

to them at all.

I would go up to

someone and I would say

I have a word from the Lord,

but to me it was more of like,

I want to encourage

you and the Lord, but

looking back,

that's a scary thing.

That's a very scary thing.

While that I think often

is unintentional

and people

sort of unwittingly say,

The Holy Spirit told me this

or God told me this

when they don't mean that

in the same way that others do.

Let me just encourage you.

That is not a biblical way

to express yourself.

You're becoming, in

biblical terms, a false prophet.

Because you're saying this is

what the Holy Spirit said,

This is what God told me

when God is not

in fact the source of that.

To attribute

thoughts in your mind

to the Holy spirit you become

a Jeremiah 23 false prophet.

You have your own visions,

your own ideas, your own dreams.

They become

a false prophet, de facto,

even if that's not their heart.

Now, if you think that I'm

overemphasizing something,

maybe stressing a little bit

beyond reason,

I would just simply point you

to first Corinthians chapter 14,

verse one,

where Paul commands

the Corinthians

and all believers

earnestly the spiritual gifts,

especially that you may


Paul is commanding us

here, earnestly

desires spiritual gifts,

especially prophecy.

This is not optional.

If you are not earnestly

desiring spiritual

gifts, especially prophecy

you are sinning.

They keep making the argument

that we're sinning

because we're disobeying

a command of God

by not seeking

the gift of prophecy.

Sam Storms and others

who make that kind of argument

know that

all the commands of the Bible

come to us

with an assumed context.

We might go to Matthew ten

and the commands

that Jesus gave to his disciples

when they went out on mission

for Him.

And we could point after point

after point show how Paul

did not obey those commands

in his own missions.

He did take money from churches.

He did take more than one

cloak with him.

So we have to accept the fact

that biblical commands

come to certain

specific people with certain

specific assumptions.

The same thing is true

with regard to the command

to seek the gift of prophecy

and First Corinthians 12 and 14.

It came in the context

where God was still giving the

gift of prophecy to the church.

If we can show that

the gift of prophecy

is no longer

being given to the church,

the command is

no longer obligatory for us.

No one today has the ability

to see into tomorrow

and reveal that to the Church.

The aspect of foretelling

has ceased.

There is a gift of forthtelling

to stand before group of people

and to take the Scripture

that has already been given

and to declare it

with clear teaching

that is a God-given gift.

We have the comfort

of the Inspired

or authoritative inerrant

Word of God

that is always true.

It is our guide for life.

Thank God Christians

have a guide for life.

We have the privilege

of having an authority

behind us in these 66 books

that can guide us

in every area of life.

When the Day of Pentecost


they were all together

in one place and suddenly

there came from heaven, a sound

like a mighty rushing wind,

and it filled the entire

house where they were sitting

and divided tongues as a fire

appeared to them

and rested on each one.

And they were all filled

with the Holy Spirit

and began to speak

in other tongues as the Spirit

gave them utterance.

The significance

of the day

of Pentecost is great.

It was the crowning event

in the life of Christ.

It's a Christ event,

and it was the pouring

out of Christ's Spirit

so that Christ is with us now

by His Spirit.

One of the manifestations

of Pentecost

was the Apostles

speaking in other languages.

The first time tongues

appears in Acts chapter two,

it's very clear that tongues in

that passage is speaking

known languages that the speaker

had never before learned.

And we know that

because there are two terms

that appear in that passage at

Pentecost in the Book of Acts.

One is the word glosses.

It literally refers

to the organ of the mouth.


where we get the word tongues.

It says they spoke in tongues.

Well, what is that?

Well, later he uses the word

dialecto, which is the word

for languages, and he uses

it synonymously with glosses.

The people

who are hearing the apostles

say, each of us

hear these truths

in the language

to which we were born in.

The gift of speaking in tongues

was the miraculous ability

to speak in a foreign language

that the speaker

had never previously learned.

Why did God give this

peculiar gift to many Christians

in the early church?

Paul answers this question

In first Corinthians 14.

He explains that

the gift of tongues is a sign

not for believers,

but for unbelievers.

Some Continuationists interpret

this to mean that

people speaking in tongues

is an impressive thing

for unbelievers to witness.

But Paul immediately debunks

this idea.

He writes so if the whole church

comes together and everyone

speaks in tongues and inquirers

or unbelievers come in.

Will they not say

that you are out of your mind?

So what does Paul mean, then,

that tongues are a sign

to unbelievers?

You need to go all the way back

to the Tower of Babel

and how the various languages

and nations have warred

and m*rder*d each other.

And God is then going to narrow

in and speak to one man

who is a Hebrew

speaking man, Abraham,

and we're going to have God

speaking to that people

and revealing himself

to that people

in their language,

the Hebrew language.

But he promises that he's

going to bless all the nations,

the language groups of the world

through his seed.

God chose the nation of Israel

and the language of Hebrew

as his primary way of revealing

himself in the Old Testament.

But in Isaiah 28, the Lord tells

the leaders of Jerusalem

that a sign of their impending


would be that He would speak

to the people with strange lips

and a foreign tongue.

The Lord speaking through

his prophets, is warning

the Israelites, I have

been sending you prophets.

If you don't

want to listen to the prophets,

people of a strange language

altogether will descend

upon you and bring destruction

to you as a people.

Isaiah was prophesying

the coming Babylonian captivity

where Jerusalem and God's

temple would be decimated

and the people would be

carried off by foreigners.

But in first Corinthians 14,

where we are told that tongues

are assigned to unbelievers

Paul references

this same prophecy again

in the context of explaining

the purpose of the New Testament

gift of tongues

by people of strange tongues,

and by the lips of foreigners.

Will I speak to this people?

And even then they will not

listen to me, says the Lord.

The gift of tongues wasn't meant

primarily to be an impressive

sign to unbelieving Gentiles

who spoke other languages.

It is actually a sign

to unbelieving Israel that.

God was judging them,

revealing himself to Gentiles

and choosing to speak in

languages other than Hebrew.

You see that

sign to unbelievers

sort of cutting both ways.

On the one hand, it was a curse.

It was a curse to the Jewish


who rejected their Messiah,

but at the same time

it was a sign of blessing

on the fact that God was going

to institute a new thing

in which both Jews and Gentiles

would come together.

As Paul says in Ephesians two

into one new man

Glossalalia is a term

that comes from two Greek

words. Glossa - meaning tongue

or language, and laleo -

meaning to speak.

So when we use those terms

together glossalalia is

used to refer to tongue speaking

or to speaking in tongues.

The modern charismatic


of the term allows for

glossalalia to refer to ecstatic

spiritual speech that doesn't

conform to any known language.

What many modern Pentecostals

and Charismatics don't know

is that the earliest

Pentecostals all believed

that speaking in tongues

was the supernatural ability

to speak foreign languages.

None of them thought.

It is an ecstatic speech.

Parham was in the newspaper

on multiple occasions

talking about how

now that the gift of tongues

has been restored to the church,

no one is going to have to go

to language school

to learn foreign languages

and well be able

to send missionaries

all around the world

without them

having to spend years training

and learning a foreign language

in order to be effective.

And the budding

Pentecostal movement

actually sent missionaries

to foreign fields,

trusting that they would be able

to just show up,

be given the gift of languages

and communicate

with the nationals

in those foreign countries.

So they went off to China

and India and other places

thinking they were

speaking in those languages

while proclaiming the gospel,

only to figure out

that no one in the audience

was able to understand them.

And of course,

they all came back

utterly disappointed

and dejected when they realized

that what they were doing

in terms of their modern

glossalalia did not communicate

in terms of a foreign language

with the people

they were trying to reach.

And so consequently,

the Pentecostal movement

had to change

its understanding of Scripture,

to fit its experience

rather than acknowledging

that its experience

did not fit the clear

teaching of Scripture,

they opened up a second category

of tongues

that included

unintelligible speech.

You don't find the notion

that tongue

speaking in the Bible

is anything

other than real human languages

until you get to the modern

charismatic movement.

The Charismatic movement has

invented a new kind of tongues

because the tongues

that they practice don't match

what the Scripture reveals

as the real gift of tongues.

And as a result, they had to

broaden the biblical category

to make

room for their experience.


you can speak in tongues.

The more you do it, the better

you'll be at it.

But we can at least

get you started in this.

I just want to help you

to activate your tongues.

It's very simple.

All you have to do

is just choose to step out

and speak in tongues.

Now, I don't want you

to overthink it.

Just don't speak in English.

Don't think English.

So the first thing you need to

do is just clear your mind.

I want you to flip the switch

from your mind

to your spirit, man.

Don't let your mind

take control.

Allow your spirit

to take control.

You're going to start

to feel this

almost like a bubbling up

that happens

just as you feel it

bubbling up. Begin to speak.

Don't fight it, don't resist it.

It may be a simple syllable,

but continue to release it.

Da, da, da, da, da, da,

da, da, da, da, da,

Even if it sounds weird

to your mind, it doesn't matter.

It's not a language of the mind.

It's the language of the spirit.

Da, da, da, da, da, da,

da, da,

Im gonna give you the command

of faith

And at that very moment,

you're going to no longer

speak in your native language,

but you're going to speak

out of your spirit.

One, two, three!


Yes, the man mind says It's

weird, but the spirit says Hello

this is awesome.


Oh ho ho ho ho ho.


and congratulations

You've been filled with

the Spirit

and you can now

speak in tongues on demand.

I tried to speak in


I tried for years with the hope

that that something

external would become internal

and would come out

probably the number one reason

most people don't receive

the gift is

they're just overthinking it.

People wonder,

what if this is just me

praying this or worse, what

if this is a demonic spirit?

What if this is not of God?

What if what I'm

receiving is fake?

What if it's all just hype?

What if it's all just emotion

and we become afraid?

So if you're waiting

for your mind to comprehend

everything that's going on in

praying in tongues,

you're not going to pray

in tongues.

Then I'm listening

to all of these people around me

speaking in tongues,

and I waited for this music

to kind of drive

what was happening

till the point where I kind of

grew in this emotional state,

where all of a sudden

I may said a phrase or two,

and I thought, Oh, I got it,

that's it.

I'm speaking in tongues. Right?

And it was a checkmark

for your kind of your spiritual

journey, Right.

Did I have an experience?

Absolutely. I had an experience.

Would I examine the scripture,

say that that what I experienced

looks like what

the text of scripture says?

Absolutely not.

It's just babble

for the purpose of an ecstatic

emotional experience.

You could study that language

for forever.

You're never going to come up

with a pattern.

It's just it's

just plain gibberish.

But I read Romans

chapter eight that

the Spirit speaks with groans

that are too deep for words.

Maybe that verse is

what is meant by this.

I feel this overwhelming urge

from the Spirit

to utter something,

and that's what comes out.

You have a choice.

You can choose to pray

with your spirit,

to pray in the spirit,

or you can to pray with

your mind in your own language.

So you can choose to

pray in mysteries,

or you can choose to pray

in a known language.

You have the ability

to do that, to choose that

there is no given permission

in Scripture to speak some

gibberish nonsense that no one

is going to understand it.

But think about what Jesus said

when he taught us how to pray

in Matthew 6:7,

He said, don't heap up empty

phrases like the pagans do.

And then he says, Pray

then like this.

And Jesus taught

us to pray, clear prayers.

He was never praying anything

that was some otherly language.

And if there was anyone

who was going

to pray in such a language,

it would certainly be the one

who was sent down from heaven.

Christ himself.

What do you mean by

speaking in tongues?

My sense is from reading First

Corinthians 12 that it was more

of an ecstatic utterance

that didn't have

any ordinary human meaning,

but tongues of men

and of angels.

Tongues of angels.

Often people will appeal

to First Corinthians 13,

where the Apostle Paul says,

If I speak in the tongues of men

and of angels,

but have not love,

then the practice

of speaking in tongues

is not suddenly speaking French

or suddenly speaking German,

but speaking allegedly

the tongues of angels.

You can literally say

whatever you want and justify it

when Paul is speaking of

tongues, of men and of angels,

what he's trying to do

is speak in hyperbole

or intentional exaggeration

for the sake of effect,

to illustrate the point

that even if you have the best

and the highest gifts

that reach up to heaven itself

and you have not love,

you have nothing.

For example, he says, Even

if I give my body to be b*rned,

but I have not love, it

profits me nothing.

Not that you ought

to speak in tongues of angels,

but that you ought to love one

another as Christ is loved you.

And that's the stress

of the text.

It's actually sad

and unfortunate

that while Paul is seeking

to direct our attention

away from the gifts

and to the grace of love,

we take one phrase

the tongues of angels

and make it

the primary focus of what tongue

speaking should look like.

First Corinthians 14s

rules for the use of tongues

in church

are simply ignored in our day

and Continuationist churches.

The fact that only two or three

tongue speakers should speak.

They want to be trampling

on each other

and standing up

and babbling at the same time.

The fact that Paul says

in the context there

that women should not speak

in tongues in church.

Those tongues

had to be interpreted or

they were not to be permitted.

There are these rules that Paul

gives that are widely ignored.

And this is just another sign

that what's going on,

not biblical tongues.

You do have these

and I've been in these meetings

five, ten thousand people

all speaking in tongues

at the same time or,

you know, an individual

to speak in tongues

with no interpretation,

no one knows what's being said.

All we know is apparently

the Holy Spirit is at work.

I'm sorry,

that just doesn't work.

Either theyre actual languages

like the Bible

describes them to be

or this is something else

that's going on.

And yeah,

you could argue, okay, someone's

making it up as they go along.

Is it demonic?

It's just not the biblical gift.


say, I don't understand, Sam,

how you can preach verse

by verse through Romans

and in your private

devotional life

you speak in tongues,

which I do every day.

And I say, well,

the apostle Paul wrote Romans

and he says right here

in 1 Corinthians 14,

I thank God

I speak in tongues

more than you all.

Oh, well, I dont think I ever

thought about it that way.

It's good enough for

Paul its good enough for us.

Paul says not to forbid,

to speak in tongues.

To which I would reply,

I've never in my life forbidden

anyone to speak in tongues.

As far as I know,

no Christian pastor has ever


anybody to speak in tongues.

However, the verse

doesn't say don't forbid people

to babble incoherently.

I would forbid that,

but that's not tongues.

Even though

it comes out of people's mouths

and their tongue is involved.

It's not the gift of tongues.

And yes,

I will forbid counterfeits,

but that's just what

a faithful minister would do.

And that's why there is

no room for open but cautious

Jesus enemies

were on the lookout,

always trying to trap him

when he performed miracles.

One Sabbath,

Jesus entered the synagogue

and the Pharisees

watched him to see

if he would heal on the Sabbath.

Jesus came to a man

whose hand was withered.

Jesus said,

Stretch out your hand.

The Pharisees were filled

with fury

and sought to destroy

Jesus Jesus.

If somebody has the gift

of miraculous healing,

surely all he needs to do

is to prove it.


he went into a hospital

and cleaned out

a ward of patients,

who are we to say that

he hasn't got that gift?

Jesus doesn't owe you anything.

He doesn't have to prove

anything to you,

nor does the Holy Spirit

have to prove anything to.

You when it comes

to a gift of healing.

If you've got

the gift of healing,

then come to this children's


If you've got that kind of

prove it to me attitude,

that is not confidence

in goodness and character.

That is pride at its very core.

If somebody says,

Do you really have the gift

of teaching?

Go ahead, teach us something.

I mean, I'm

not going to balk at that.

I'm going to say, sure, let's

sit down and open the word.

You know, do you have the gift

of encouragement?

Well, encourage me.

I'm not going to say, well,

God doesn't need

to prove himself.

We think God heals.

We think God does

the miraculous.

He just doesn't do it

through these agents

to whom he gives the

power to work at will like that.

if you claim

to have the gift of healing,

if asked to go ahead

and demonstrate that

it really should be no problem

to go empty

the children's hospitals or

or look at a just a dear brother

who sits in a wheelchair

or sister sits in a wheelchair

in the

in that space, in the aisle

in church every week.

If I could just make walk,

I would.


And if there is compassion

in your heart

to help a

fellow believer walk upright,

heal the man.

First off, nobody owes you


and nobody

needs to prove anything to you.


I would be glad to do that.

Fly me out there

if I have open reign to pray for

people in a hospital. I'm in.

I would love that.

Prayer is not

the gift of healing.

The gift of healing,

Dare I say it,

results in healing.

In the New Testament

It's always

an authoritative command.

Get up and walk.

And he got up and walked.

To have the gift doesn't

mean to pray to have the gift.

It is his gift to wield.

What is claimed to be

the gifts that have continued

bear no resemblance to the gifts

that were in the New Testament.

The idea that somebody has

the gift of healing

is the false notion

that a person actually can have

a healing crusade

or a healing ministry.

And that's their gift.

I wish I could come down

and lay hands on

every one of the thousands

that are standing.

That's impossible.

I came all the way here

from Delton, and I just wanted

to get healed by you.

I've been waiting

so long to see you.

We see in its pretended state.

We don't see it in reality.

Jesus didn't just come

so you can have

a passport Heaven.

And this is why we're called

full gospel preachers.


don't believe in a full gospel.

but I'm a full gospel Christian.

Some of you are going to get

healed on this broadcast,

and I feel that anointing strong

right now,


going to touch your body today

in Jesus name,

that demon of cancer is

backing off your life in Jesus

name. Any demonic assignment

against your mind, against

your body, is being broken now

in Jesus name,

whether the devil likes it

or not, he is losing your

address from today onward.

Healings in the New

Testament were immediate

and they were complete.

A man cannot walk

and now he can walk.

A man is blind

and now he can see.

Whereas the quote unquote

miracles that are claimed today

usually are things

that are not observable.

There's a claim

that there's been healing,

but there's no way to measure it

or it is something

that is only partial

or something that is gradual.

If there were truly healings

where a man who was lame

can now walk, or a man

who is blind can now see,

that would make world news,

but you never see those sorts

of things.


people claim to have happened

are gradual or secret

or non observable.

When Jesus raised Lazarus

from the dead in John Chapter

11, there were some Pharisees

and unbelieving Jews

who were present there,

and when they left

and went back to the other


and began to have discussions

about how they would deal with


none of them questioned

the legitimacy of Lazarus.

What they did instead

was plot a way

to k*ll Lazarus and k*ll Jesus

because they could not deny

that that miracle had happened.

Neither believers

nor unbelievers

ever tried to deny

that the miracles were real.

The only thing

the Pharisees could come up with

was that they

could attribute the miracles

to someone other than God,

and they attributed it to

the devil instead.

Matthew, Chapter 12.

The Blasphemy

of the Holy Spirit.

They were attributing

to the devil

the works of the Holy Spirit.

That was the best

that unbelievers could come up.

When Peter and John healed

the man who had been born lame

from his mother's womb,

and he was laid at the gate

that is called beautiful.

This was a genuine miracle,

a genuine sign and wonder.

And everyone knew it.

And seeing the man

who had been healed,

standing with them,

they had nothing to say

in reply.

What shall we do with these men

for the fact

that a noteworthy miracle

has taken place through them

is apparent

to all who live in Jerusalem,

and we cannot deny it.

The New Testament

miracles could not be refuted.

I can absolutely refute

the fake signs and wonders

being purported

in the Charismatic Movement


I can absolutely refute

what Todd White does out

on the street when he lengthens

people's legs by a half an inch.

That's a parlor trick

In the time of Jesus

and the Apostles, unbelievers

were scrambling for explanations

as to how these undeniable

healings could happen.

And today

it's exactly the opposite.

The people who believe in

gifts of healers

are scrambling to explain

why nothing is happening,

as it happened

in the days of Jesus.

A lot of people report healings

and you look back a year later,

it wasn't real, was it a lie?

Some people lie.

They just lie about healings.

Other people feel pressured,

so they say they're healed

when they're not.

Other people genuinely

feel good.

They feel better two days

and then check in a month

or two later.

Well, what was that?

I don't know.

The very fact that there is

a debate

is self-evident proof that these

sign gifts do not continue.

Theres healing

in the church today.

Of course. Theres instruction

in the

letter of James about

what's to be done,

and the elders are to be called

for and prayer is to be made.

But there isn't someone

who has a gift of healing.

One of my grandsons has got

Klinefelter syndrome.

He has an extra male


There's nobody in the world

today, nobody in South America

or Asia or Africa or North

America that we can call for

who could heal him.

Or those that have Down


There's no record of

a miraculous healing like that.

That was something

that was unique

in the ministry of the Lord

and his apostles.

At the end of the day,

when we pray for the sick,

we leave the results

in God's hands.

We know that God has the power

to heal.

He's the

one that created their body.

And so

we pray for their healing,

but we accept the outcome

as the will of God.

We are getting today

of restoration

and health restored

after illness, and the church

bringing a sick child,

bringing a cancer patient

and crying to God

that God would heal and God


and answering and healing.

But everyone is going to die.

And so,

you know, let's face up to that.

We see these things

through a glass darkly now,

but in heaven we'll be at peace

and we will know

why my wife d*ed

as she did, why I have a


who's got an incurable condition

and God will make it

plain. God is good.

There will be a day.

Jesus Christ will raise

every body.

And everybody's dust,

which is precious

in the eyes of God, will be

glorified and transformed.

They will be the resurrection

unto glory.

We look forward to that.

But we don't see that today.

And we cannot see it today

because it's not the time

for that to happen today

in the Bible,

what we see is that

Christians are told to pray

for one another,

but that's not what the modern

healing movement teaches

with the modern healing movement

teaches us that there's

some amount of faith

that we generate

or some confidence we need to

have in some particular healer

that that he can,

as it were, by his own, will

heal us because of a gift

that he's been given by God.

And the sad reality of it is

it is a tremendous source

of confusion

and disappointment for so many

people who believe the lies.

If it's

always God's will to be healed,

but the healing does not come,

then the question must be asked

Whose fault is it?

It cannot be God's fault

because he's perfect.

So the only other one to whom to

look is the one who is sick.

Lack of faith, lack

of making the right confessions,

lack of giving.

Maybe you're not even saved.

It must be your fault

because it can't be God's fault.

So for the last few years,

I have believed in miracles.

And I have believed for healing,

you know, and I'm so shocked

because every time I would pray,

nothing would happen.

It gets discouraging.

Sometimes Id even go oversees

to where I'd hear about

all these miracles happening,

go, Let me at least see it.

And I'd get there.

Whether Africa,

India, whatever, and nothing.

And then

two weeks

ago we were in Myanmar, Burma.

So I've heard of

some evangelicals

who have gone to a place

called Myanmar or Burma.

I can't even tell you

how intense,

how amazing the experiences

we had were.

This lady had built


and somehow was able to work out

so that we could

go into the village.

and while there have claimed

that they actually came along

and healed everyone,

they touched.

Everyone who touched them was


People started coming forward

for healing.

Every person I touched

was healed.

You guys okay?

This is this is craziness to me.

I have never

experienced this in 52 years.

And what's interesting about

that story is

I actually know of men

who are church planters

on the ground in that country,

who know the men

who arrange these healings.


to the visiting preacher,

poor people of all ages in

a village are hired to act

as if they are deaf or blind,

and they are instructed

to play out a dramatic healing

when the visiting preacher

touches them.

In this elaborate scam,

the preacher is actually tricked

into believing

that he is performing miracles.

I'm talking like a little boy

and a little girl who were deaf.

We lay hands,

she starts

crying and smi -

Again these are not Christians.

These are not people

you ever heard about Jesus?

There's fees paid out

to various people to heal,

because what that does

is that brings

more American preachers

and then more money

into the country.

And so they arrange

a series of healings

and these men

come back with these stories.

And were like, lay

hands on your little brother.

You know, we lay hands on him

and he starts hearing

for the first time. You guys,

this is out of my comfort zone.

This is stuff Id read about,

but I'm going, man, it happened.

It happened.

They're being suckered.

Unfortunately, we go overseas

and we lose all sense

of discernment.

Things we would never consider

acceptable here,

We just go overseas

and discernment is gone

and we just we're just suckers

for every charlatan

that comes along.

I thought I had faith,

but my faith was

at another level.

One of the reasons

I absolutely despise

the charismatic movement

and all that it does

is because it teaches people

to be gullible

and open

to the idea of fake miracles.

And as soon as they discover

this isn't real, it's fake,

they don't just abandon

their Charismatic convictions.

They sometimes abandon

faith in Christ altogether.

What I'm struck with is not just

this doesn't fit with the Bible,

although it doesn't fit in

any way with biblical teaching.

But but just the human cost,

the spiritual cost of this

kind of false

teaching at a moment

when when individuals

are at their most desperate

and have the most openness

to hearing genuine truth

God and know they need something

from God, know that theyre

that they're insufficient

in themselves

to do what needs to be done,

and they're looking to the Lord

in some way.

And yet someone steps in

and gives them this

this false,

self-aggrandizing teaching.

I've seen many other lives

be destroyed

when they finally woke up

and realized

these things aren't even real.

They think nothing is real.

They question

whether Christ is real,

and it's hard to get anyone

who's gone through that

to come back and take a serious

look at faith in Christ

focused on the Gospel

rather than focused on

these phony miracles.

For the first 15

years of my pastoral ministry,

I was a very rigid,

dogmatic, cynical, snarky,


who did not

believe that the Spirit of God

operates in the fashion

as he did in the early Church.

To my everlasting shame

for which I have repented many,

many times

when I read my New Testament

and I see the way in which Jesus

and the Apostles

were confirmed

through the miraculous signs

that they performed

as messengers of God,

who brought new revelation

from God.

And I read about the way in

which the gift of tongues

operated on the day of Pentecost

and the 16 different language

groups that were represented

in terms of dialects

and languages spoken

by those who were giving praise

to God

in languages theyd

never learned before

And I read about the

way in which people

were healed immediately and

undeniably with a spoken word

or with the touch of a hand.

I read that on the pages

of my New Testament,

it just makes me

want to fall down and worship

because our God is a great God

and the Spirit was doing

amazing things to confirm

the person and work of Christ.

When I compare that to

fallible, errant prophecy

to speaking gibberish.


to hucksters

getting up and pretending

to heal people.

It's my zeal

to see the true work

of the Holy Spirit magnified

that motivates me to call out,

and confront that

which uses the same language,

but is not the same thing.

I think

the most dangerous aspect

of those who believe

in the continuation

of the extraordinary

gifts of the Spirit

is ultimately to confuse

their experience

with conversion.

People can have many experiences

that maybe

look exactly the same as what

Muslims and Mormons

and other people claim.

You can look at people

exhibiting Hindu Kundalini

and those look exactly like

you see in charismatic churches


They laugh uncontrollably,

they get slain in the Spirit

and they speak in tongues

in exactly the same way

that Charismatics do.

You literally cannot

tell the difference.

Ey, Ma, ma, ma, ma


They look exactly alike.

Pagans do it too.

It's very possible

for us to rest

in extraordinary experiences

that we've had

or believe that we've had,

rather than

resting safely in Jesus Christ.


was invented around

the turn of the 20th century.

They've had a hundred years

to produce

anything that all Christians

would look at and say

that really validates

charismatic distinctives.

Just imagine

one person, just one

with the gift of healing

going in and empty out

just one ward of children

dying of cancer

Theyve had 100 years.

They haven't done anything

like that.

If a Charismatic

wants to make the case

that revelatory and attesting

gifts are still operative,

he has to argue that case.

If they were still continuing,

no argument would be necessary.

We'd all know it.

There is another possibility -

that these gifts did

what God meant them to do

and they've retired, successfully.

Cessationism is false doctrine.

If you're going to

a Cessationist church,

you need to go find a new church

cause nobody should be

going to church

hearing about what

God isn't doing anymore.

We need to be in a church

where we're talking about

what God is doing today.


is not about limiting

the work of the Holy Spirit.

It is instead

about magnifying the true

work of the Holy Spirit

and not being satisfied

with cheap substitutes

or counterfeits.

We've got to really back up

and ask a really fundamental

question about

who the Holy Spirit is

and what he's doing.

The Son is sent by the Father

on mission for a particular work

To redeem us.

And he pours out the Spirit

for a particular reason.

He says he's sending the promise

of the father upon us.

For what purpose?

That we would be his witnesses-

And particularly there

he means the apostles, first

and foremost - in Jerusalem,

starting there,

and then to the nations,

to Judea,


to the ends of the earth.

So the Holy Spirits mission -

his whole mission - is to come

and proclaim the work of Christ

through the Apostles,

and then the church they found

He's going to preach that

work through those preachers.

The Spirit

is going to take that Word,

and he's going to transform them

so that they believe that Word.

In John 16,

Jesus said that he would

send the Holy Spirit

and He would convict the world

concerning sin

and righteousness and judgment.

when God's Word is spoken,

and we see, according to the law

that we've broken God's law

and our hearts are convicted

and we realize I am worthy

of the judgment of God

when the Gospel is declared,

the good news that Jesus Christ

d*ed for our sins

as an atoning sacrifice,

that he rose from the dead,

conquering the grave,

that he ascended into heaven,

and hes seated at

the right hand of the Father,

interceding on our behalf.

We come to

receive and accept those truths

because of the power

of the Holy Spirit.

As John 6:44 says,

No man can come to me

except the Father

who sent me draws him.

Long my imprisoned spirit

lay fast bound in sin

and nature's night.

His heart is a heart of stone.

God removes that heart of stone

and He replaces it

with a heart of flesh

that is alive.

It is the work of regeneration.

God breathes into a dead man

and He brings a person to life,

Opening up somebodys eyes

so that they see Jesus.

That is the miracle

of the new birth.

That's what the Spirit of God

is doing all over the place.

The Spirit comes into the soul

of the believer and enables

their minds

to comprehend, to receive,

with meekness, to believe,

to be impacted

and transformed by that Word.

That I think is the huge mistake

people make.

They think the Spirit

is going to speak to them

outside the Scripture

when the wonderful reality,

the joy of being a Christian

and coming to the Scripture

is the Holy Spirit

turns on the light

to the Scripture itself

and enables us to understand it

in a deep,

profound, life changing way.

We need, really, a

clarion call to the substantial.

It's a lot more exciting

to go see someone stand up

out of a wheelchair,

supposedly, than it is

to be told from the pulpit

You need to die

the self every day.

You need to take up your cross.

You need to be following

the Lord Jesus Christ.

You need greater self-control

through the Ministry

of the Holy Spirit in your life.

You need to be putting to death

obvious sins.

You need to be growing in


to the Lord Jesus Christ.


not going to gather a crowd

with those sorts of emphases.

But that's where the emphasis

falls in the Bible.

The Spirit seals us,

and sanctifies us and guides

our steps providentially.

He comforts us,

he encourages us,

He illuminates

the Word of God to us.

He regenerates us, He gives us

spiritual gifts.

He empowers those for service.

He uses those gifts in the lives

of other people that we serve.

In the power of those gifts,

He builds his church.

He unites us around the truth.

All of these things,

the Spirit of God does,

and they don't necessarily

put goose bumps on our arms.

They are the unnoticed

and everyday work

that the Spirit of God

does in His people

for the glory of our God.

Peter's Pentecost sermon

He promised them

that they would receive

the gift of the Holy Spirit.

The gift that He was talking

about was the Person

of the Holy Spirit.

God has many attributes.

We talk about His love, His

mercy, his justice, His grace,

another attribute of God

is that He gives His Holy Spirit

to people, to sinners.

He gives Himself.

He gives the gift of himself.

Well, if we don't have the

miraculous gifts,

what do we have?

We have the self-authenticating

word of God

when we have Holy Spirit of God

promise to bless that word.


no reason for disappointment.

Well, is that it? Yes.

We have the self-authenticating

word of God, accompanied

and attested by the Holy Spirit,

and that is all we need.

What does Jesus say?

He says,

if they don't believe the Word,

they're not going to believe

even someone who has been raised

from the dead.

This word

is the final Word.

I ain't got no money

I ain't got no change

I ain't got a dollar bill

to my name

I ain't got a dime

I ain't got a cent. No

But I got a lot,

a whole lot of love

that I havent yet spent


I aint got no rubies

I aint got no pearls

I ain't got no diamonds

to give to my girl

But what I do have

Ill share with you

cuz what we got is all we need

when this life is through

Whoa, whoa, whoa

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

whoa, whoa

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

Oh I aint got no mansion

Here on this earth

All my posessions

they aint got no worth

But i put my stock in

my future rest

so if youre asking me

I got all I need

and Im truly blessed

Ain't got no money

aint got no change

I ain't got a dollar bill

to my name

I aint got a dime

I aint got a cent


but i got a lot

whole lot of love

that I havent yet spent
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