[Amy] Something horrible
is going on.
-[door creaking]
-This person
is seeing dead people
being around the bed.
The thing got in bed with me,
and put their arm around me.
What do you think is here?
I think there's a demon here.
It is taking pieces of them.
There was even some reports
of people doing some
weird... rituals out here.
-This thing is very bad.
-Go pack your stuff now.
[Amy whispering]
I don't like it in here.
Bad, bad, bad, bad.
It wants the person dead.
My name is Amy Allan.
[moans]
I see dead people.
I saw a winged creature.
I speak to dead people.
And they speak to me.
This person
feels like a monster.
But there's only
one way to know
if my findings are real.
They are sucking the life
out of these people.
-I rely on my partner.
-I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
So, how many bodies
we talkin'?
And I know every person,
every house...
has secrets. It's my job
to reveal them.
-But Steve and I never speak.
-We never communicate
during an investigation.
Until the very end.
Ooh. You're not
gonna like this.
-[crying]
-When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
[sobbing] I'm sorry.
I need to take a break.
-Or time to get out.
-It wants inside the house
because it wants to k*ll you.
[gasps]
[ominous music playing]
[Steve] I'm in Oxnard,
California.
It's a beachside city
about an hour and a half
from Los Angeles.
A woman named, Kelley,
called me in.
She sounded bad.
She thinks whatever's
in the house, k*lled
her husband and her father.
And she's convinced
it's still out for blood.
I need help. I want to cleanse
this house because
honestly I can't...
[inhales deeply]
I can't take any more of it.
[Steve] Hopefully, Amy and I
can help before anyone else
gets hurt.
[Amy]
This interesting place...
I don't like it.
[door opens]
This is a not good area.
Ugh!
[whispering]
I do... I don't like it
in here.
I don't know why.
Oof. Bad, bad, bad, bad.
Bad, bad, bad, bad!
[Steve] Kelley, glad I'm here,
'cause when we spoke
on the phone,
-you sounded pretty angry.
-Correct.
So, what's going on?
Whatever's in this house,
I feel like it's gonna
eventually k*ll me.
I feel like it's k*lled my...
father and my late husband.
That's pretty strong
of a statement
that you're telling me.
-Mmm-hmm.
-Let's start with your father.
Uh... Why do you say that?
Because... The way he d*ed.
[Kelley] How it happened.
He was like me and you
talking. Happy, laughing.
Carrying on with his life.
And then,
he got the diagnosis,
and basically, he went
upstairs one evening,
and I couldn't wake him up.
So, he passed away
in the house?
-Correct.
-So what was the diagnosis?
Lymphoma cancer.
-Okay, how old was he?
-He was years old.
Okay.
Your late husband...
Tell me what happened there.
Found him dead in the bedroom.
-[Steve] Okay,
how old was he?
-[Kelley] Forty-five.
Forty-five-year-old men
don't just drop dead.
He d*ed of an overdose.
Okay, I lost a brother
to an overdose.
And I found him.
I know what that's like.
It's not easy to deal with.
-And I'm sorry
that did happen to you.
-Thank you.
You feel that paranormal here
influenced him
to start using again?
Yes, I do.
[Kelley] He had been
clean and sober
for about a year.
[Steve] You look real happy
in this photo.
Yeah...
How long have you
lived here?
-I was born and raised here.
Then, I moved away.
-Okay.
And then I came back
about eight years ago.
Okay. Who all lives
in the house, Kelley?
My daughter, Sara.
She's .
My mother, she's .
And myself.
So, let me ask you a question.
I noticed that you had a bed
set up in the living room.
-I'm assuming
that's for your mom.
-[Kelley] Correct.
She had a stroke
about eight years ago.
How bad is her health
right now?
Well, she...
can't walk.
She's paralyzed.
Completely on her left side.
-Okay.
-Her mind isn't as sharp
as it used to be.
Lately, the last couple weeks,
she's actually has said
that my father
and her father
has been visiting her.
I asked her,
"What did they say?
Why are they here?"
And she said that
they just came to tell her
that everything's
gonna be okay.
What do you take from that?
She's gonna be
checking out
pretty soon.
How you holding up
with that?
I just try to be strong
and not cry. I don't wanna,
you know...
I guess, show that I'm weak.
Because whatever's here,
my full, strong belief is that
it gets a kick out of that.
Out of my emotion.
And I can't show that.
What do you think
is here?
I think there's a demon here.
Why not just walk away
from this madness
that's going on here?
My, uh, father
built this house.
-Okay.
-I was born in this house.
And out of respect
for my father, I wanna
stay here and fight.
I can understand that.
[Amy] I feel very, uh,
drained in here.
[ominous music playing]
There's like,
this little woman. Petite.
Very thin, like,
gray-white hair.
Just like, no energy.
Frail, confused.
She goes in and outta here.
I'm wondering, like, is she...
still alive?
Or did she die?
She's so heavy with, like,
confusion and like,
lot of nausea associated
with her, too.
Very sick.
I keep hearing ""
with her.
Um... I'm assuming
this is her age?
And I do feel something,
potentially with her heart.
Yeah, I think the living
would certainly
get sick in here.
I gotta get out.
I got, I gotta out this...
room.
Like it... [groans]
[Steve] Why'd you bring me
into this room?
-This is where
my father passed.
-Okay.
How long ago
did your father pass?
A year ago.
-Okay, so he was
in bed here?
-Yes.
Basically, he came up
from downstairs,
came to bed and really,
kind of, never woke up.
Okay, but you were here
in the room when he passed?
-Correct.
-I'm curious, though.
Do you think he's
still here at all?
-I don't believe so.
-Okay.
You like that he's not here?
Or you wish he was?
-No. He... needs to be
where he needs to be.
-Right. Okay.
[Amy] There's
an older male here.
Feel like a heart att*ck
with him.
I'm assuming he lived here
at some point.
I don't know
if he owned this house,
or if it was family?
He seems fairly recent.
Maybe the s
or, uh, s.
He seems frustrated.
He wants out.
-He doesn't like it.
-[low growling noise]
I think he's pissed.
He's just upset.
I, I don't know.
He's an angry guy.
[Amy] He likes it outside.
Out back. Uh, he feels like
he's been pushed out.
He's just like,
"Everything's gone to [bleep]"
[Steve] So,
what if any experiences,
are you having in the house?
Right after my dad d*ed,
I heard... his voice.
Saying, "I'm cold. I am cold."
So, "I'm cold."
Does that mean
anything to you?
That's what he had told me
before he was dying.
And you're confident
it was your father's voice?
I'm confident
it was his voice,
but it was not him.
It was demonic.
That's actually when I knew
then and there,
that this thing is...
Straight up evil.
All right, so,
anything else?
I see shadow figures
throughout the house.
All right. So, give me
an example.
One time, I was sleeping
in Sara's room.
Then I woke up.
To some large shadow
standing over me.
So how big are we talkin'?
-I feel about this tall.
-Okay.
About ye wide.
It was touching me
like, here.
-[Steve] Caressing you?
-Yep. Just doing this.
Oh. What else is going on?
Well, I have dreams about
this demon-looking thing.
And I, I just call it
a "thing."
-Can you describe it for me?
-Yes.
He crawls on all fours,
his body's bruised all over.
-All right.
-And his face is kinda...
d*sfigured.
So, in your dream
when you see this "thing",
-does it appear
like it wants to hurt you?
-Yes.
And in, in what way?
Physically, mentally,
emotionally.
I honestly don't know
how you live in here.
Me neither.
[Amy] I'm seeing that old,
dying woman.
And she's looking
in the mirror
and talking to herself?
I think she opened
some sort of gateway.
[Amy] I got this thing.
It looks b*rned.
Or really old or both.
Kept trying
to absorb my energy.
I think that thing can come
and go through the mirror.
There're also random
dead people coming
out of the mirrors.
So, I'm thinking
these aren't the best people.
I think the living would seal
that intention, that negative,
darkness.
Their energy's being sucked.
-[Matthew] The living?
-Yeah.
So they're being drained.
The dead people in the mirror
are taking their energy.
Now, the scary thing there
is that when that's happening,
when the dead are doing this,
it's not only
just the person's energy,
it's like,
their personality,
their memories.
[Amy] This is negative
and bad.
[Steve] So, Jennifer,
I understand you used
to live here.
-Yes.
-Talking to your mom,
she's convinced
that the paranormal
k*lled your grandfather,
k*lled her late husband,
and is lookin' to k*ll
somebody else in this home.
-Hmm.
-I wanna know what
you think about her,
or is she overreacting
with what she's thinking?
No, I don't think
she's overreacting at all.
I'm worried
something's gonna
happen to her.
Okay, so, I gotta assume
you've had experiences here.
I have. There's something here
that's...
makes people angry, and fight.
Me and my husband,
we would start fighting,
arguing.
-Was that the cause of you
moving away from here?
-Yeah.
I had to get out
of this house, 'cause I felt
like this house was just...
Destroying the marriage,
really.
Okay, so, anything else?
I was actually living in here,
at the time.
In this room.
My son was sick all night.
He was about...
maybe five, six months old.
So, now I was just, you know,
I was trying to comfort him.
But right when I did that,
I literally got punched
in my back.
You realize how dangerous
that was,
you holding a newborn
and getting punched like that?
Yes, it was very dangerous.
Okay, so, that was
pretty intense. Anything else?
Um, one time I was washing,
um, my son's bottles
in the kitchen.
-[Steve] Okay.
-[Jennifer] And there's a...
A window above the sink.
I happen to glance up.
And I seen an older lady
in like, a vintage night gown.
It scared the crap out of me.
If you saw a photo,
or a portrait,
-you think
you'd recognize her?
-[Jennifer] Yes, actually,
me and my mom were going
through old family photos
one time,
and I was like,
"Who is this? This is the lady
who I've seen standing
behind me."
-So, who was it?
-It was actually my,
my mom's grandma.
-So, your great-grandmother.
-Mmm-hmm.
Interesting.
[Amy] I see a woman.
But she's like a [bleep]
shadow woman.
Shadow woman
is very present in here.
She's coming from outside.
[Amy] If living people
see her,
they see a shadow person.
She has a, has a dark side.
Like, I see her getting
angry and yelling.
And when she doesn't
get her way, she...
she's got a violent temper.
I see her
banging on the walls.
-Banging on the bed.
-[thudding]
[Amy shudders]
Ugh. God...
So, Sara,
this is a pretty cool room.
Thank you.
Would you rather
move from here? Or, or...
Would you rather stay
if we can fix it?
I like living here.
But if we have to move,
I wouldn't mind it.
How about experiences
that you've had?
Can you tell me about 'em?
I just, honestly,
have the worst nightmares.
So, tell me
about some of them.
I've had some where, like,
I'm being held down
and I can't move.
-Right.
-Or like,
I'm being choked.
Like, a lot of them
would just be like, like,
I'm being, like, suffocated.
I mean, just thinking
about that scared me.
-Yeah.
-[Steve] I'm trying
to breathe.
So, do you wake up,
and, from all this anxiety?
Yeah, I wake up like,
really, really scared.
-So, you laugh when
you're nervous, right?
-[chuckles nervously] Yes.
[Steve] I could see that.
Okay.
-So you're nervous right now?
-[chuckles] Yeah, I don't like
talking about that.
[Steve] Ah... Okay.
All right,
what else is going on?
One time, I was laying in bed
right here, and...
something came in and walked
around to the other side
of the bed.
And then got into bed with me,
and put their arm around me.
And then got up,
and walked out.
Did you think
you were dreaming?
No. 'Cause this was like,
very, very for real.
-I don't want that to happen
to you ever again.
-[Sara] Mmm-mmm.
Because, if it can do that,
who, you know, who knows
what else it can do.
[Amy] Feel att*cks happening.
This is an actual living
person who's getting,
like, att*cked.
This person is seeing...
Dead people.
I believe
coming out the closet.
I just see a bunch of people
coming out the closet,
being around the bed.
So, I think
this person's a medium,
and they just opened up
vortex, or something
in their closet.
And so, dead people
are coming in.
[Amy] That thing. The one
that I saw coming
through the mirror,
they see it. And I think,
that scares them the most.
And then it comes down
on the bed.
[Matthew] So what does it
look like?
[Amy] It's pretty big.
The skin is weird.
The skin's like, b*rned.
Or like, mummified.
Kind of like
a gray-brown color.
And it's got
really long hands.
Super skinny,
and not anatomically correct.
[Matthew] Is this thing...
Dangerous... the living?
-Yeah, because it can
take energy.
-[Matthew] What can it do?
It is taking pieces of them.
It's taking their memory
and that's kind of breaking
them down mentally.
So, it's like a [bleep]
monster, really.
[Steve] It wasn't hard
to figure out where to start
this investigation.
There's an old cemetery
right by Kelley's house.
In fact, you could see it
from her kitchen.
So I called a local author
who says the place has
a long and sad history
that I'm definitely
gonna wanna know about.
[Steve] So, Connie, I gotta
thank you for helping me out
with this case
and meeting me here.
This cemetery looks
pretty run down. Um...
What can you
tell me about it?
-[Connie] Well, this is
the Masonic Hueneme Cemetery.
-[Steve] Okay.
It was established in .
You can't tell by the way
it looks now, but it was once
a lush cemetery.
[Steve] All right.
So, this place has been here
over years,
it sounds like.
So, who built it?
The original
board of directors-
Winfield Saviers...
-Okay.
-...a banker
named Achilles Levy.
[Steve] Okay.
And a former senator,
Thomas Bard.
[Connie] You probably saw
some of these names on
the street signs around town.
Actually, I have.
So, some of those names
you mentioned to me,
are those people buried here
at all?
Yes, they are.
The Saviers family is actually
located over there.
-[Steve] Okay.
-And, uh, their young son,
Jack, is also buried
right there.
[Steve] Okay, so any idea
how many people
are buried here?
Originally, it was plus.
-Okay.
-Um, but the current owner
says it's more like to .
All right, so, what happened
to the rest of those bodies?
In , they separated
the cemetery.
Over there, they separated
the Japanese.
There's about people
buried in that cemetery.
And, along the tree line,
are burials
of Mexican-Americans.
[Steve] Okay, so if I got
this right, they didn't want
any white people buried
in the same cemetery
with Japanese
or Mexican people as well?
That is correct.
Not for nothing,
but this place is a mess.
I mean, is, is anybody even
being buried here anymore?
No, the last burial
was in .
-Okay.
-Since then, there's been
vandalism going on,
people have stolen headstones.
And there was even
some reports of people doing
some weird rituals out here.
-Really?
-Yes.
But yet, names of these people
that are buried here
are all over the city?
-Correct.
-But they don't think twice
about their resting site?
Yeah, that's... It's a shame.
[Amy] I get to this
cemetery area and I see
this huge hole.
And I had to fight, like,
to try to keep myself
from being sucked
into the hole.
And it's dark,
and it's negative,
and it takes people,
or rather, their energy down.
[Amy] This is negative
and bad.
[Steve] Connie mentioned
that one of the graves
belonged to a kid
from a prominent family here.
So I called
the local history teacher,
who says that's true.
And that the boy's death
was a tragic fluke accident.
[Steve] Well, Chris,
I appreciate you coming out
-and helping me out
with this case.
-[seagull squawks]
Before we get
to this kid's tragic death,
this prominent family...
What can you tell me
about them?
The Saviers.
Saviers have been here
for over years.
-Okay.
-A powerful family.
During your research
of this family,
did anything stand out
with them that might
help my case?
Yeah, the, uh,
matriarch of the family.
Um, Charlotte, stands out.
-She, uh,
was from Massachusetts.
-Okay.
And she came
through Iowa in s.
And she married, uh,
Charles Saviers in .
-Here in California?
-Here in California.
And what's more interesting
about that is that it was
a shotgun wedding.
Okay, so back in those days,
that had to be a big deal.
Pretty scandalous, right?
Yeah, it is pretty scandalous
at the time.
Uh, it just
doesn't happen.
All right, so they obviously
had one child.
Did they have any more?
Well, they had
a total of four.
In this census,
it shows that, four children.
All right. So, who's this kid,
Jack, buried
by my client's house?
He is the only child
of her son, Walter,
and his wife, Margaret.
So, what happened
to this kid, Jack?
[Chris] Uh,
that is pretty sad.
Jack is
at his grandmother's
and grandfather's house
playing around a wagon.
And the wagon
has bales of hay in it.
Two fall off, crush his skull
and break his arm.
How old was he?
-[Chris] Four years old.
-Ah, jeez.
All right,
so when did this happen?
Happened in .
Did he die instantly?
He d*ed a week later
on February st, .
Here's an article on it.
-[Steve] So this poor kid
suffered for a week.
-[Chris] Oh, yes.
[Steve] So talking
about Charlotte,
that's her grandchild, and...
It happened on their property.
She must've been... You know,
-destroyed from the guilt.
-Yeah, she has
to be devastated.
That family, it had
to tear them apart.
It just goes to show
that if you got money
and you're powerful,
it doesn't stop a tragedy
like this from happening.
No.
[Amy] I'm seeing
the shadow woman again.
She, you know, came
form back east.
From the east, she went
to the Dakotas and then
she walked here.
She said she slept
her way here
-and she was laughing.
-[distant laughing]
So I kind of think
she was like a hooker.
The year
is very important for her.
Like, I feel, like, horrible.
Something horrible
is going on.
[objects jingling]
[shudders] I'm scared.
[humming] I am scared.
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[Steve] So far,
I've got a client
who thinks the paranormal
k*lled her father
and her husband on a property
near a vandalized cemetery
where strange rituals
were done.
But I want to see
if there's anything else.
Searching through old records,
I find a brutal triple m*rder
that happened just down
the road from Kelley's house.
I've reached out
to a retired detective.
He looked into this homicide
for me and says
the senseless triple m*rder
was about two things,
revenge and money.
So, Mike, I appreciate you
helping me out with this case.
This homicide,
who were the players?
So you have
an Oxnard ranch family.
-Okay.
-Uh, Swiss immigrant,
Peter Furrer,
-his wife, Bertha--
-Okay.
And they have
an infant daughter,
Virginia, ten months old.
What'd you find out
about these people in general?
-I mean, what's their story?
-Well, the ranch, actually,
was pretty successful.
-Uh, Peter employed a number
of ranch hands.
-Okay.
Uh, one of those ranch hands
was named Louis Fortene.
Uh, unfortunately, Louis
was not a good ranch hand
and Peter ended up f*ring him.
All right, I see
where this might be going.
What happened?
As a active revenge,
he went and cashed
a $ check
in, uh, Peter's name.
All right,
so what happens next?
Couple weeks go by
and he gets real nervous
about getting caught.
So he comes back to the ranch,
he finds Peter in the barn
and proceeds
to find a metal pipe
and hit him over the head
with it and k*ll him.
[Steve] So what's he do
after that?
Well, he decides
that there are some
more loose ends,
so he goes into the house
and he finds Bertha
and he hits her over the head
with the same metal pipe
and kills her as well.
Okay, so now
we got the baby left.
Yes, and, unfortunately,
uh, he didn't know what to do
with the baby,
so he decided
that he was going
to end her life as well.
-[Steve sighs]
-Same metal pipe.
-And she's
ten months old, right?
-[Mike] Yes.
[Steve] This sick [bleep].
He doesn't know
what to do with the kid
and he just kills her.
Like, this ten-month-old's
gonna identify him.
Absolutely, yeah, I have
all three death certificates
here as well for the family.
Uh, all indicating death
by homicide with a metal pipe.
[Steve] So the cause of death
is the same
for all three of them.
[Mike] Correct.
So he comes back later though,
he decides he's not finished.
So he brings a can
of kerosene with him.
He moves all three
family members into one room
and then he spreads
out the kerosene and proceeds
to light the house on fire.
All right, so they track
this guy down?
Tracked him down,
brought him in for questioning
and under a question
by the sheriff, he admits
to all three homicides.
Did he go to trial
or did he just plea out?
Went to trial
and was found guilty.
Sentenced him
to death by hanging.
All right,
so he's found guilty
and sent away, where'd he go?
He went to San Quentin.
I have his mugshot right here.
[Steve] Wow, I can't believe
you got this mugshot
from .
Look at the dates.
[Mike] The crime committed
in March, .
Hung in the gallows that July.
That was the justice system
back then.
What a piece
of [bleep], huh?
I'm hearing,
like, a man, just, like...
Barking.
[exhales] I'm, like, scared.
I'm scared, I'm scared,
I'm scared.
[exclaims]
-Something about a fire.
-[fire sizzling]
Like a little piece
of this person just left.
I think that the living
would feel this panic
and fear,
like they're being watched
around in here.
And feeling stalked
and, uh, feeling
a lot of pain.
Like a pain, a horrible pain
in my side.
Pain in my neck.
Um... Pain in my jaw.
So what exactly
might the living
pick up off of this pain?
Sudden, like, stabbing feeling
in the side.
[Kn*fe slicing]
Horrible neck pain,
horrible jaw pain.
[groans] God, and back, yeah.
Wicked, wicked back pain.
Ooh, ooh, ooh,
like wicked all through here.
Horrible, horrible,
horrible, horrible.
I saw several horrifying
things on my walk,
but two stood out.
First, the dead guy
who got pushed out
to the backyard.
He was, like, bald on top.
Late s, early s.
Moustache,
uh, so pretty thick.
Does he have any markings
or scars on his face?
It seems like
he had rough skin
on his, uh, cheeks.
Next, I described the thing
climbing into bed
with the living woman.
Its skin is strange.
It looks gray.
It's got
abnormally long limbs.
Definitely like
an elongated skull.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes, that's what I saw.
[indistinct whispering]
[crickets chirping]
[Steve] Now that Amy
and I have completed
our investigations,
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
and our clients
for the first time.
So, guys, this is Amy.
She's gonna be doing
the reveal from another room
where she can concentrate
on your case and the dead
without any distraction.
Amy, meet Kelley.
Uh, she's the one
that called us in.
She lives here
with her -year-old mom
who, unfortunately, is not
doing too well health wise,
and her -year-old
daughter Sara.
This is Jennifer,
one of Kelley's
other daughters.
She grew up here
and got the hell out
because of all the stuff
that was going on.
And she wishes the rest
of the family
would do the same actually.
So unless Amy's got
some questions for you,
she'll tell us about her walk.
So I have to say
that this was
a very active walk.
The first thing
that I want to discuss
is the deceased woman.
She did have an accent.
She told me she was
from back east.
She had traveled to, first,
apparently, the Dakotas.
And then she kind of said
that she, um,
slept her way here.
I took that as her potentially
being a prost*tute.
She did mention a few times
the year .
The living may see her,
uh, in the shadow form.
The problem
is that she actually
does have a dark side.
Basically, if she doesn't
get her way,
uh, that's when
she kind of lashes out
and becomes a bit violent.
I see her banging
on the walls,
banging on the bed.
You did tell me
about seeing shadows.
Yes, standing over me
while I was sleeping
and have been,
you know, physically touched.
What about the banging noises?
Does that make
any sense to you?
Sure does.
The bed, it would
move, shake.
So that shadow woman
you're talking about
reminds me of a woman
that I came across
in my research.
Her name was Charlotte
and she was originally
from New England.
Now she came here
to California in the s
by way of Iowa.
In , she married
into the Saviers family.
-Wow.
-[Steve] Now, they're
one of the most
prominent families in town.
Uh, I don't know
if you know this,
but there's signs
all over the place
with their name on it.
Now, the shadow woman
told you she might've slept
her way here,
I think what
she might've meant
was that she had to have
a shotgun wedding
back in .
And back then,
that was scandalous.
Now you also mentioned
the year which was
very important to her.
So in late January
of that year,
uh, her four-year-old grandson
was playing on the farm.
All of a sudden, two bales
of hay came crushing down
and landed on the kid.
Fractured his skull,
kid was only four years old
and he d*ed eventually
about a week later.
He's actually buried
at the cemetery
that you could throw
a rock at from here.
-Oh, what?
-Yeah.
What kind of cemetery is it?
It's a mess,
it's in disrepair.
There's headstones
everywhere missing.
They think satanic groups
might've been in there
doing some rituals.
Oh.
[crickets chirping]
[Steve] Okay, what else?
The next dead person
that I came into contact with
was, initially,
in the living room.
It's, like, the back
of the house.
He is actually pretty recent.
I would've said
s or s.
I got that he d*ed suddenly.
I think from a heart att*ck.
And he's very upset
and very frustrated.
So now he hangs out mostly
in the backyard.
Right, so Amy, now's probably
a good time to tell you
why Kelley called us in.
She believes that the house
has already k*lled
two people she loves.
Now, the first,
that was her husband, Ruben,
who passed away
here in the house in .
I have a photo of Ruben
and... Kelley.
[Kelley] He, uh, was
a recovering addict.
He ended up using,
he had been clean
for quite awhile.
And he overdosed.
In one of the
back bedrooms.
Now the second death, um,
was last year and that was,
uh, Kelley's dad.
Now he was ,
so I'm not so sure it had
something to do
with the paranormal.
She's convinced
that paranormal
had a lot to do with it.
He wasn't your typical
-year-old man.
Ah, got it.
I actually have a picture
of her dad
and this is your late brother,
as well, right?
Correct.
Oh.
Okay, I had a sketch done
of the person that I saw.
Okay.
[papers rustling]
Holy [bleep]. Um...
Tell me who you think
this looks like.
It kind of looks like Danny.
-[Steve] Danny
was your brother, correct?
-Yes.
[Steve] Can you tell Amy
the circumstances
with him passing?
He passed away
of a heart att*ck
at the age of .
[Steve] Now how long ago
was that?
Eleven months
after my husband d*ed.
-[Steve] So ?
-Ah, , yes.
Amy, you thinking
her brother's still here?
Yes.
So the next person
I'm going to talk about
is an older female.
Mmm.
[Amy] This female may
not be deceased.
She may be
in the dying process.
So I was confused
on if she was dead or dying.
I kept hearing with her.
-She seemed very frail
and confused.
-Oh, my God.
I got some things also
going on with the heart.
Uh, and there's a lot
of nausea associated with her.
You guys think
what I'm thinking?
My mother, um,
is years old.
She went in
for open heart surgery
and suffered a stroke
on the operating table.
Is she mentally okay?
Yeah, no, she's not.
Okay.
All right, so, Amy,
we're pretty convinced
it's Kelley's mom,
who's alive,
that you're dealing with here.
-Yeah.
-[Amy] I'm sorry.
[Steve] I hate to even ask,
but what else?
Now this is where things
get a little unusual.
I saw a woman
who was younger.
She looked like your mother,
but younger.
Looking into a mirror
with a candle
and I, she was saying
something into the mirror
and I could not hear it.
When she did that,
she inadvertently opened up
a doorway through the mirror.
And now there's quite a few
dead people that kind of
hang out in the mirrors.
This is very concerning
because they can draw energy
in from you, okay?
And that's what makes them
negative, all right?
You guys may see people
when you look in the mirrors
or you may catch people
in movement out of the corner
of your eyes.
Concerning any mirror
in the house.
So you saw a reflection
in the window.
Yes, I was washing
baby bottles
and I was looking down
and I had, like, glanced up
above, you know, the window.
And I seen this old lady,
she was standing on this side,
right behind me.
I totally got creeped out.
I was like, "Hell no."
[Steve] Tell Amy how you were
able to find out who
this woman was that you saw.
We were looking
through old family photos
one time,
and I happen to see
that lady that I seen
standing behind me.
And I asked my mom
who that was
and she had mentioned
that that was her grandma.
-So your great-grandmother.
-Yes.
Was she ever in the house?
Oh, yeah. She was
there, like, every day.
The thing that worried me
was what I did see coming
out of the mirror.
I just called it the thing.
It can come and go,
never alive.
Very bizarre-looking.
Its skin was like,
uh, b*rned-looking.
This thing is no good.
Very bad.
It also takes energy
like the bad dead people,
but more so.
Tell her
about being lethargic.
I feel like that all the time.
Tired, drained.
Energy sucked out of me.
The other thing
that it's doing is it can pick
pieces of your personality out
and also your memories.
-So when she said
the thing--
-Uh-huh.
You and I kind of looked
at each other.
Well, that's exactly
what I call it.
The thing.
Exactly.
-Are you having
any memory problems?
-[Kelley] Yes.
You guys kind of looked
at each other
when Amy mentioned
about taking a piece
of people's personalities.
What was that about?
-What's up, Jennifer?
Don't hold back.
-[Jennifer laughs]
Well, she's totally different
when she's here.
Totally different.
She's not herself.
Like, she gets mad
very easily.
[crickets chirping]
When I walked upstairs,
I went into the bedroom
to the right.
That's Sara's room.
[Amy] The female,
living female,
that I got in there,
I feel has abilities.
Because of her abilities,
there's actually
another vortex in the closet.
So what I saw going on
up there, were the dead
coming from the closet
surrounding the bed
of this person, this female.
These are dead people
who want help.
But the problem
is I saw the thing there, too,
and it changed
and it became much smaller
and it was crawling
-into the bed
with this person.
-[Kelley cries]
I did have a sketch done
of what I saw
happening up there.
[papers rustling]
[exhales] You're not
gonna like seeing this.
That's really sad.
[indistinct whispering]
Creepy, it's creepy.
Sara told you a story
about something and crawling
into her bed with her.
Well, she came in,
told me in the morning,
she asked me,
"Hey, by any chance,
did you get in bed with me?"
And I said, "No, I didn't."
That's not good.
I'm speechless,
to be honest with you.
I...
You wanted her to move out,
get the hell out of here.
-Now you must really
want her to leave.
-Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[Jennifer] Yes, I do.
Go pack your stuff now.
[indistinct whispering]
[Steve] Well, I can't remember
the last time Amy's seen
so much stuff in one house.
Clearly, it's a good thing
you guys called us in.
Now the question is
is there anything you can
do to fight back
and keep the house
in your family?
Well, for that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
[Amy] You can stay.
But there's a lot,
a lot of things that need
to be done
and on a consistent basis
for you to be able
to stay here in peace.
I'm going to bring
in a group of sensitives,
including some mediums.
The first thing that needs
to happen is for your brother
to be moved on comfortably.
That'll go fairly quickly
because he is very
ready to go.
[Steve] So, Amy, do you think
the house had anything to do
with the death
of Kelley's father
and husband?
[Amy] No.
Okay.
The second thing that needs
to happen is the large vortex
where this thing, uh,
is coming in and out
of the mirrors,
needs to be shut
and severed and sealed.
So once that's done,
they will seal
the other vortex upstairs.
-In Sara's room.
-[Amy] Yes.
Closing these vortexes
will keep the dead
and the thing
from coming inside your home.
Next, there needs to be
a barrier, uh, placed
around the house.
Get a large bag of salt
and take that around the yard
where your land ends.
The shadow woman is going
to be pushed out,
uh, past your,
uh, property line.
Uh, so she won't be able
to get back in,
once this barrier's
put around.
I want the barrier redone
every two weeks for a year.
Well, that's a hell of a list.
Is this worth
you staying here?
-Yes.
-[Steve] It is.
Yes.
But you would rather
see Mom leave.
-[Jennifer] Of course.
-Yeah.
-Uh-huh.
-[Steve] Yeah.
-But... She's not, so just
got to live with it, I guess.
-[Steve] Yeah.
-Mothers are stubborn.
-[Jennifer] Mmm-hmm.
[Amy] I really hope Kelley
follows my advice by moving
her brother on
and closing the vortexes
inside her home.
Once she does that,
she can put a barrier
around her property
and live peacefully
in the house her father built
for many years to come.
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14x02 - The Thing
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"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.
"The Dead Files" features two independent investigations into locations that are reported to be haunted. One investigation is performed by a psychic medium, while a former NYPD homicide detective investigates. Each show concludes with a meeting, where they discuss their findings together with the victims.