01x04 - Is Believed

Episode transcripts for the TV series, "Painkiller". Aired: August 10, 2023.*
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Six-episode series, which is based on Patrick Radden Keefe's New Yorker article "The Family That Built an Empire of Pain" and Pain k*ller: An Empire of Deceit and the Origin of America's Opioid Epidemic by Barry Meier, focuses on the birth of the opioid crisis, with an emphasis on Purdue Pharma, a company owned by Richard Sackler and his family that was the manufacturer of OxyContin.
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01x04 - Is Believed

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This program is based on real events.

However, certain characters, names,

incidents, locations, and dialogue

have been fictionalized

for dramatic purposes.

What hasn't been fictionalized

is my daughter Elizabeth.

My daughter, Elizabeth,

d*ed because of opioid addiction.

She was full of life and love

and I miss her.

I miss everything about her.

Every day I wake up

and I make sure I look at her

because I never want to go a day

without remembering the joy

that she brought me.

I'll do the painting, the art

Wait.

Thank you.

- Which floor?

- Oh, nine.

We're going the same place.

- Did you get a call too?

- Yep.

"Get your ass to Connecticut."

You think it's bad?

Like, are we in trouble?

I just go where they tell me.

I saw one of Dr. Cooper's

patients crush it and snort it.

What are you doing?

I put that in my notes.

Deborah Marlowe

from Howard Udell's office.

He'd like to fly you to Connecticut

to meet with him.

Shannon Shaeffer.

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

Thank you for coming here

on such short notice.

My name is Howard Udell.

I am vice president and chief counsel

of Purdue Pharmaceuticals.

Take a look at each other.

You are the future of this company.

You are here today

because you are the newest members

of our Elite Toppers Club,

the 10 best performing sales reps

in the country.

Congratulations, give yourselves a hand.

Ladies, now, you will be receiving

a substantial bonus

and a title promotion.

You will also be responsible

for recruiting the next generation

of sales reps.

It is a big responsibility,

but we have faith

you will be successful.

Again, congratulations, all of you.

I think the ladies have set up

some refreshments in the back veranda,

so follow them out.

Thank you all, you did great

and I look forward to working with you.

- Thank you.

- You bet, thank you.

Miss Shaeffer.

- A word?

- Of course.

Congratulations.

- Thank you.

- Well done.

We're all very impressed

with how invested you are in your doctors

and we really want to encourage

that kind of commitment.

Okay.

But in the future,

whenever you have concerns,

it's best that you call us.

Don't put it in my notes?

Did I say put it in your notes?

- No.

- No.

What did I say?

- Call.

- Call.

- Okay.

- Just call.

- Okay?

- Nice to meet you.

- Thanks again.

- And you.

Why'd they make me a Topper?

- What do you mean?

- Why'd they make me a Topper?

Because I told you

about Cooper and that girl?

I put it in my notes?

No, because of your numbers.

That girl's a junkie.

- She's not your problem.

- Isn't she?

Just because someone

doesn't love themselves enough

to look at the label on a Pop-Tart

and see that it's all sugar

or to use a drug as directed,

it doesn't make it our problem.

We can only worry about ourselves.

God, I look like my f*cking mom!

Does that make us bad people?

Would a man ever question his own worth

after getting a f*cking baller promotion?

- Probably not.

- No.

When men get promoted, they jizz all over,

like buckets of it.

Just because you're a woman

and want something

doesn't make you a bad person.

f*ck that.

You can do good in this world

and still make a ton of money,

and you can spend that money

on whatever you want.

You deserve it.

- Do you want the high thread count?

- The 401?

- The penthouse apartment?

- I do.

- Do you?

- I do!

We don't look back.

We only look forward.

- You look really good.

- Yeah, I know.

The people at the top

have never given a sh*t

about what's happening at the bottom.

And things at the bottom were bad.

Get your hand out of there, Nadine!

Where's Scoop?

Scoop!

- Kenny. Kenny's back!

- Get your card?

It's good.

Get in back with the rest of them.

Don't touch Nadine! She's in a mood.

- Hey, Dickerson.

- Yes, sir?

Kenny is a busy boy today. Busy boy.

Morning.

Sheriff Baker, Summers County.

I've arrested dealers, doctors, addicts

Drug dealers sending homeless drug addicts

into pain clinics to get Oxy prescriptions

and then driving them to pharmacies

to get them filled.

Some of these doctors

will give Oxy to anyone with a pulse.

Oh, Shaunette, what's good?

- Hey, Scoop.

- How you doing?

Scoop! Scoop, let's go!

- Let's go!

- I'll roll through later.

Come on! Hurry up!

Let me see.

Every drugstore in my county

has been robbed.

You can spot these kids,

green and yellow streaks

across their shirt.

This was a place where

all the kids would come and make out.

That's it, wrap it up, and let's move.

You see that powder?

This is your OxyContin.

They grind this up into a powder

and then they snort it.

12-hour hit, one dose.

- Good stuff.

- Amen.

We'll hit a couple today.

- Amen.

- Hop in.

That's what I'm talking about.

- Kenny, give me one of them 40s.

- One quick stop first.

OxyContin ain't nothing more than heroin.

I had a 32-year-old plumber strangled

at the Piggly Wiggly last Thursday

over three f*cking pills.

It was a new dope economy

with all the chaos that came with it.

Better be good, man.

Dickerson, you seeing that?

- Yes, sheriff.

- Let's go get him.

f*ck.

f*ck!

This drug is permeating

every part of our community

from schools, hospitals

never mind the jails.

Get off my ass!

Heroin wrapped up in a pretty little pill.

The local cops couldn't handle it.

They didn't teach this sh*t

at the academy.

g*dd*mn f*ck!

I need multiple

ambulances here, 10th and Emerald.

Send as many vehicles as you have.

Sir, I'm telling you,

we're getting our asses kicked.

We need a new way.

We need help.

We need help.

I hear you.

I hear every one of you,

and my office

is taking this very seriously

and we will do something about this.

You have my word.

- Sir.

- What are your thoughts?

Sir, this ain't gonna stop

until these doctors

stop prescribing this drug.

Right.

And we can't stop someone

from doing something that's not illegal.

- You get me?

- Yeah.

- We got this.

- Okay.

There's a monster out there.

Let's cut its head off.

What laws are Purdue breaking?

List them for me.

I can't do my job without a crime, Edie.

I'll find the crime.

You ever prosecute a company

as big as Purdue Pharma?

- No.

- No one has.

- All due respect

- All due respect, I'm not stopping.

You can't take on

Those little Purdue Malibu Barbies

are doing the exact same thing.

They are doing the exact same thing

as every cr*ck dealer

in every corner in America,

except they are getting rewarded for it,

getting made rich off of it.

My brother is in a prison cell

right now, rotting.

What is the difference?

They know they are k*lling people.

They know it.

They're out on the streets, and they know,

and they are getting their nails done.

My mother was turned into a vegetable

because of this.

Brain damage from smoking this sh*t.

I was the one who had to be with her.

I had to stay with her,

taking care of her until she d*ed.

There was nobody but me.

And I am not stopping.

I'm sorry about your mother.

But if you want to get these guys,

you want to smash these m*therf*ckers,

then we gotta find a crime,

you understand?

You wanna take them down?

Find the crime.

"Police chase leads to van flipping

with 17 homeless

who were being used as OxyContin mules."

I can read.

A new drug

is sweeping the streets,

and users say the high

is the most powerful they've experienced.

The OxyContin is becoming

more popular than Ecstasy.

- "Six dead, multiple amputations."

- I can read.

In the 21 years

I've been a federal prosecutor,

I've never seen a drug problem like this.

A fast-spreading plague of addiction.

- An addiction so gripping

- So popular, so fast,

people have stolen the drug

from medicine cabinets.

"OxyContin,

an opioid as strong as heroin."

Yeah, I can read.

I'm reading the same article you are.

A Boston area nursing home

was robbed at gunpoint for OxyContin.

Illegal use of this synthetic

opiate is overwhelming law enforcement

- in a growing number of states.

- stealing OxyContin

OxyContin has created a surge

OxyContin abuse

has reached epidemic proportions.

This will not simply evaporate

into the news cycle,

Richard, this is real.

This problem is real.

Maybe.

"OxyContin mule"

is not an endearing phrase

you want to attached to our product.

No.

Attacking the problem

could be somewhat self-harming,

considering we are arguably the problem.

We're not the problem.

We're simply the supply.

att*ck the demand.

att*ck the lowlife abusers.

I'm seeking the assistance

of the healthcare community

in combating an increasingly

serious problem in Maine.

I'm referring to the abuse

and misuse of OxyContin.

People wanted answers

and the pressure was mounting on Purdue.

First attorney to pop

was Jay McCloskey of Maine.

He sent a letter to members of Congress

and 5,000 practicing physicians,

warning them about increasing problems

with OxyContin.

I believe OxyContin to be the biggest

criminal and social thr*at in Maine.

Turn it off.

- Now.

- So, what should the response be?

Press release.

Present as a responsible

corporate citizen.

Yes, I think we get in front of it.

Immediately.

- Offer some fixes, outreach, donations

- How much is that going to cost?

- Lobster-sucking hillbillies!

- Give them a few fixes

Let's buy AA!

- A responsible corporate citizen.

- Where do we cap this?

- in three months, it's all over.

- NA, Al-Anon.

- Who's drafting the press release?

- Okay, quiet! Quiet!

We should back law enforcement.

Howard, talk to McCloskey.

Tell him he has our full support.

It's time to hammer on the abusers.

Abuse is criminal.

- Simple as that.

- How will that solve anything?

These junkies are not victims,

they're victimizers.

Give them nothing and they will go away.

I like it.

I will not take a knee

to a f*cking junkie.

Hammer. Hammer. Hammer

- Hammer those junkies!

- Hammer them boys.

f*cking junkies. f*ck.

- Some f*cking junkies.

- Yeah.

Yeah.

- Where do you think we're going?

- The car.

Yeah, we're going to the car,

because we're gonna go to school.

Where were you?

I was honking, waiting for you guys.

In the car and then where are we going?

- Come on!

- That's what we're wearing?

I'll get back to you later.

Straight to jammy school.

Aha. You come up with that?

Yeah. No, I'm still on hold.

- Frank, end of day.

- Okay.

Picking it up.

Have you seen my reading glasses?

- No, but can you take her?

- Yeah.

Okay. No, we wanted the synthetic ones.

Psst.

Go to Daddy! Go to Daddy! Go!

- We're gonna get Daddy's glasses.

- I'm still here.

Get Daddy's glasses.

Yeah, how many pieces?

Yeah. Yeah, that works.

Okay, thank you.

- Hippo needs his glasses.

- No, he doesn't!

Where are they?

Okay, um, let's make sure.

- Hold on, we got to find Daddy's glasses.

- Daddy!

Watermelon fight?

I'll come to win.

You know what? You're going down.

Yes! Bye!

Where we going?

Where are you going?

- I'm gonna get some water.

- Will you grab my?

Party people

In the place to be ♪

- It's about that time ♪

- For us to ♪

Tony!

- Good to see you!

- My goodness!

- It's been so long.

- Look so beautiful.

- Thank you.

- So beautiful.

- Who's this?

- My new girl.

I'm Shannon Shaeffer.

- Do you like fast automobiles?

- I love them.

This is about as real

and as fast as it gets.

'98 black Carrera.

Handles real well and sounds real good.

Shannon, let me look at those eyes.

Those are some blue, blue eyes,

so there's really only one option

for Shannon Shaeffer.

How's that feel?

It feels good.

Looks good, feels good,

is good, Shannon Shaeffer.

She's all yours.

Do you want it?

- How bad?

- So bad!

So bad?

You make me feel so good ♪

What is happening?

Bad, bad, bad, bad boy ♪

Yours.

- What?

- It's yours!

- No.

- Yes.

This is what happens when you work hard.

- I live here?

- You live here.

By myself?

I love it so much.

Stop! This is the biggest TV

I've ever seen.

Look at how big it is!

Now we're jizzing!

One time you had it all

I ain't mad at y'all ♪

Now give me the catalog

I'll show you how Daddy bought ♪

What if I told you it's possible

to make a difference in this world?

And what if I told you,

you could make a lot of money doing it?

Who here has heard of OxyContin?

If you all are too chickenshit

to admit you know exactly what Oxy is,

how are you gonna sell it?

What's your name?

- Molly.

- Hi, Molly.

Molly here is ready

to make some big moves.

How about the rest of you? Chanel?

Do you like Porsches?

Mercedes? Do you like money?

There's a Ferrari.

- What kind of car?

- McClaren!

You got Mercedes,

Porsches, Maserati,

Tommy Hilfiger, Tom Ford, Saint Laurent.

You like coats?

Money's coming at your face!

Hello! Do you like money? Marc Jacobs?

You can make your dreams come true.

This man don't take any of that. Right?

- Absolutely, absolutely.

- All right.

We're back. We got a special guest.

- Who do we got?

- You got a Dr. D.

Right

Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, my God!

Are you okay?

Are you okay? Oh, look at me.

Look at me. Look at me.

Are you okay? What happened?

I don't know. It's The lift, it broke.

I don't know,

maybe I forgot to to lock it.

- We have to call insurance.

- What's the matter with you?

Look at me. What's wrong?

- Look at me.

- I forgot the latch. I can't!

You're believing what he's saying?

He's sneaking out in the night

and popping pills in his truck.

- The lift broke.

- You should pay attention.

- He's an addict.

- Hey, look at me.

Are you okay?

- What's wrong with you?

- The latch, it broke!

I don't know.

Maybe I forgot I forgot the latch.

- What are you talking about?

- Why are you playing dumb?

You know what he's doing! Look at him.

Look at him, he's not even there, okay?

- I've seen him.

- Get the f*ck out of here.

- I've seen him in

- Just stop it!

I've seen him before work

and popping pills!

You're dropping cars off the lift?

Wait, wait, wait, you

- Wait, you saw him do that?

- Yes!

- Yes, that's what I'm trying to say.

- Then why didn't you say something?

What do you mean?

Why didn't you tell me the minute

that you saw him f*cking do it?

It's not This isn't my fault.

Why didn't you tell me

the minute you knew?

- f*ck you, if you think this is my fault

- Hey! No! f*ck you!

He is addicted to pills and he is in pain,

because you were so f*cking stupid

in the first place!

Get the f*ck out of here!

It's your fault! Get out!

Get out!

Go!

- I forgot.

- Shut up.

I forgot.

Now, I'm gonna say this again,

because it's worth repeating.

Opioids don't just destroy the lives

of those who abuse them,

they destroy the lives

of everyone in their orbit.

What's going on? What is this?

I don't know. These protesters are crazy.

I think they're throwing something at me.

- We'll figure it out.

- It's crazy!

- It's all day long!

- Are you okay?

They're throwing stuff at my office!

We'll We'll help you. Okay?

- I'll figure this out.

- You put me in this position.

Just I Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We will, we will.

- What is Purdue gonna do?

- Liar!

Okay? Okay.

We don't cave.

Hammer on the abusers.

Carol Brewster and the media

have raised fear and concerns

based on misinformation.

Hammer on the abusers.

And while it is tragic,

the death of her daughter,

we do have additional information

about Ms. Brewster.

What's the plan, Shannon?

- It's ruining my life.

- Take a deep breath.

Her mom is on TV crying.

- Saying that I k*lled her daughter.

- Her daughter d*ed.

- Of course she's crying.

- Her daughter was a junkie.

She can't look at herself and say,

"I messed up. My daughter was a druggie."

She needs to blame someone.

Right now, that's you.

You're the doctor.

You know what happened.

She's not a doctor. She's a sad mom.

- What am I supposed to do?

- I've got you.

You're part of my team.

You don't have to hide.

I I want to get you out there

in front of other doctors.

I think you're inspiring.

Your prescription volume is gold.

What's the fascination with money?

- Where does that come from?

- Do you not like it?

- What Where's your watch?

- I

All right. Yeah, yeah. I get it.

Purdue was gonna do whatever they had to

to protect their Golden Goose,

so they spun the narrative

of Oxy supporters.

They made it real clear

they're not the problem, it's the addicts.

As a physician, I am outraged

that people would abuse this medication.

Unfortunately, the abuse community

has also found out how to use it.

They're glorifying the addict

and the small number of people

The problem is not the abuse of OxyContin,

it's the abuse of dr*gs.

Hammer on the abusers.

But at this time, it is our understanding

that there were multiple dr*gs

in Ms. Brewster's system,

so it is unclear if this is related

specifically to OxyContin

or to Ms. Brewster's history of ongoing,

illegal drug abuse.

That's the end of the statement.

I will not be taking questions.

- Thank you.

- How dare you?

Did you know her daughter?

Yeah, I delivered her.

She was a good kid.

Every doctor I looked into

had been upping their Oxy prescriptions.

But then I found Dr. Gregory Fitzgibbons.

He'd only prescribed Oxy twice.

First time was for cancer.

Second time was for cancer.

This is every single article and letter

I sent to Purdue Pharma in 1998.

There's no question that our best,

strongest pain medicines are the opioids,

but these same dr*gs have a reputation

for causing addiction and terrible things.

Why do you think that is?

The rate of addiction

amongst pain patients

- Wait for it.

- is much less than one percent.

is much less than one percent.

Less than one percent?

That's a lie.

That's a real big lie.

Wait, but Purdue claims

that's from a study

in the New England Journal of Medicine.

- Yeah?

- Yeah

Less than 1% is a direct quote,

from a landmark study conducted

- by Drs. Porter and Jick

- Drs. Porter and Jick.

in the New England Journal of Medicine,

January 1980.

Oh, right.

Okay, hold on a second.

Lawyers, g*ns, and money.

January 1980.

There is your landmark study.

This isn't a report,

this is a letter to the editor.

Uh-huh.

This is the landmark study?

Uh-huh.

Well, it's not a report, it's

Our survey on short-term opioid use

in a controlled environment, a hospital.

It's not related to long-term,

unsupervised opioid use.

Dr. Jick, your letter

has become the founding gospel

in the pain management field.

Oh, get out of town!

It's all over Purdue's training materials.

No, no, no. I wrote this letter

to the editor 20 years ago.

How does the FDA allow them to get away

with misrepresenting my letter?

Good question.

My biggest issue

was with the language saying things like,

"is believed to reduce

the abuse liability of a drug."

- Is believed by who?

- Exactly.

- Yeah, I told them it sounds like BS.

- Then why approve it?

Well, I wasn't the medical officer

in charge of the application.

Who was?

- Curtis Wright.

- Curtis Wright.

- Curtis Wright.

- Curtis g*dd*mn Wright.

He's incredibly persuasive.

Good morning, Dr. Wright!

I didn't realize

there'd be so many of you.

Oh, they're real good.

The pressure

was becoming relentless for Purdue,

but Richard Sackler and the Purdue

hype machine kept charging forward.

I've seen the revolution firsthand.

I have seen it at work,

allowing my patients

to manage their own pain

on a consistent basis.

And not just treatment for

or amelioration of diseases

or their symptoms

but a true path to freedom.

Thank you. Hey!

You, sir, are a natural!

- Oh, thank you!

- Cheers!

That's what we all want, right?

You show me what it is

to really believe in something.

- Oh, good!

- Yeah.

The fat speaking fee

makes me believe it even more.

Shut up.

Believe in OxyContin.

I wouldn't be here if it weren't for you.

Trust in OxyContin.

I got you something.

- You don't need to.

- You changed my life, I wanted to.

And prescribe the heck out of OxyContin!

- Oh, I don't

- You don't have to say anything.

I will see you all at the bar

for some drinks

courtesy of the great Richard Sackler.

Save some for me! Save some for me.

Nobody has to know.

I'm gonna take you up to my room

and f*ck you.

Yes, baby!

- Could you please not?

- Could I please what?

Give you that? You've been wanting that.

Coming by my office at night.

A little OxyContin kick back?

Going to conferences

and wearing dresses like this.

- Sneaky girl!

- Yes!

juicy, fruity day, little missy.

On the outside, it was business as usual.

But inside Purdue,

the walls were caving in.

Because of the McCloskey letter,

we are being asked

to testify before Congress.

What does it mean, "we are being asked"?

It says a representative from the company.

It seems we are to decide.

No. No, not me.

Well, you are the president

of the company.

Uncle Arthur never kept a single company

in his own name for exactly this reason.

We'll put up a firewall

between the name and the product.

That's what he did

and that's what we'll do.

God!

We are

f*cked! f*ck!

Oh, f*ck! f*ck!

Mortimer!

It will be you three.

Me?

- Who, us?

- In front of Congress?

Medical, marketing, and legal.

You can handle anything

that comes your way.

Us?

You have a problem with that?

- No. No, no.

- We've got your back, sir.

- f*ck!

- We'll testify.

Mortimer!

Oh, okay!

Okay, great.

Tyler must have forgotten to call me.

I just wanted to make sure. Okay.

Yeah. Everything's great.

Thank you so much.

Take care. Bye.

Kaylee's down.

He's at Jack's.

Okay.

What do you mean, "Okay"?

Are you f*cking asleep? It's not okay.

- I don't like when he's over there.

- There's worse places to be.

I told him it was his fault.

You know what? Let me go there,

talk some sense into him

and I'll bring him home.

Let me make this right.

It was my fault. I'm sorry.

I don't like you right now.

- I know.

- Okay.

You better get off of that sh*t.

- I know.

- I'm serious.

This is my fault. I'm gonna make it right.

It's okay. The sky is not falling yet.

See you soon.

Don't fight with Jack.

I won't. Love you.

f*ck.

Hey, Ty.

I've just come to bring you home.

- Hey, Tina.

- It's Tanya.

Glen, what do you want?

Hey, Jack, it's good to see you.

- I

- You two go inside.

I'm just coming to grab Ty,

he has to get his stuff.

Jesus f*cking Christ.

This ain't happening.

This ain't happening. Not here, not now.

- Let's go. You gotta go.

- Hey.

Hey, I f*cking see you, man.

You think you can hide this sh*t from me?

Get in the f*cking truck.

Well, there was a misunderstanding

I know, because you're here high as f*ck.

- Go.

- No, this morning.

- There was a misunderstanding.

- Get in the truck, now.

Enough. Get in the truck.

- Jack

- Just go home, Glen! Just go home.

- Ty, grab your stuff

- Get in the truck, Glen.

Wake the f*ck up.

- Get in the f*cking truck and drive home.

- Just go home!

- Okay.

- Just go home, clean up.

- Okay.

- g*dd*mn mess.

- You're a f*cking embarrassment.

- I

Jack, I can't leave without him.

I told Lil I would bring him home.

Don't worry about Lil.

Worry about yourself.

Go the f*ck home.

Go home, Glen.

I'm sorry I'm late, sir. God!

No. I just spent the last five minutes

talking my wife off of the ledge.

She got a call from the school.

My kid got beaten up today.

Three kids, they took him,

they cornered him

and b*at the sh*t out of him.

And they crushed his, um

- The orbital bone?

- His orbital bone!

He could lose his eye.

My wife sent me a photograph.

Oh, God. These kids,

they said his father was a m*rder*r.

That his father sold poison to people.

And now I have to testify.

You have schmutz.

Sir?

- On your lapel there's some schmutz.

- Schmutz?

Here, let me.

Stubborn.

Thank you, sir.

I thank the representatives

of Purdue Pharma for appearing.

Your drug brought relief to many.

Regrettably, it has also

brought with it many problems.

Instead of testifying,

he sent Michael Friedman, Howard Udell,

and Paul Goldenheim in front of Congress.

You may be seated.

Mr. Chairman, on behalf of Purdue Pharma,

the distributors of OxyContin tablets,

thank you for taking the time

to hold this hearing.

Today's testimony bears

on a significant question

of health policy:

how to address the problems

of abuse and diversion,

which accompany the sale

of a controlled drug like OxyContin,

without restricting its availability

to meet the needs of doctors and patients

for the effective management of pain.

Now, while every voice

in this debate is important,

we must be especially careful

to listen to the patients

who, without dr*gs like OxyContin,

would be left untreated.

- f*ck.

- There are many

You know, the body count has increased.

Mr. Hodges has talked to people

who have d*ed of the overdose.

The community of Lee County

literally has been devastated by it.

Senator, we take prescription drug abuse

and the abuse of OxyContin very seriously.

OxyContin is not

the only drug being abused,

it is the drug of the day

in many communities

and we need to take that seriously. Yes.

Believe me, sir, we do.

While you take it seriously,

my question is

what is your responsibility

to deal with this problem?

Really working your girl, aren't you?

We are doing everything we can in terms

of proactivity, to move forward,

to stem the tide of this.

- This is a drug being abused.

- How we doing?

Smashing these little p*ssy m*therf*ckers?

Very few are abusing Tylenol.

Yeah, we're smashing

these little p*ssy m*therf*ckers.

Few, after taking Tylenol,

are robbing a nursing home in Boston.

We don't have control

over how the product is used.

- We put our trust in the FDA

- I think it's going quite well, don't you?

- f*ck me.

- in doctors,

and what we are dealing with here

is a group who have

another very serious medical problem,

an addiction disorder, an abuse disorder,

and they need treatment too.

They need treatment

as much as the pain patient.

You've reached Glen Kryger,

leave a message.

Can you call me back, please?

Let me get something straight.

You're telling me that

people who are addicted to your drug,

if you will, are addicted to other things?

We weren't hurting and k*lling people.

People were abusing our drug

Which is very safe.

- They were abusing it.

- You have Oxy?

- They were diverting it.

- Got the money?

We had nothing to do with that.

You've reached Glen Kryger,

leave a message.

Glen! Is Tyler with you?

f*cking answer me!

Like I said, we are in the business

of helping people who are in pain.

That is our business.

The availability of OxyContin

is critical for countless patients.

People are starting

to chop this up and snort it.

And we deeply regret

the tragic consequences

that have resulted

from the misuse of this medicine.

Hey, you've reached

Glen Kryger, leave a message.

Glen, what the f*ck?

Are you f*cking high right now?

Don't come back!

f*ck! Don't come back here, you f*ck!

It was not until last year

when OxyContin press became so prevalent,

we learned that OxyContin, on occasion,

was being crushed and used intravenously.

Mr. Chairman, we didn't know about it.

We only heard about it

after it pulsed up in Maine.

After Jay McCloskey reported it.

- Before that time

- That's a lie.

we had no idea

that our product was being abused.

And I can prove it.

No, sir, Purdue had no prior knowledge

of what was happening up in Maine

or anywhere else in the United States.

There is a doctor here in Virginia

who's been writing to Purdue,

telling them about abuses years before

McCloskey ever even opened his mouth.

They just lied.

They just lied under oath to Congress.

None of us at Purdue Pharma are aware

or have been aware,

up until this very moment,

that there was abuse issues.

I'm not suggesting

OxyContin is not being abused.

- There's your crime.

- I am saying

- There's the crime.

- we were not aware until February 2000.

Mr. Udell, you understand

your testimony is under oath?

Yes, sir. That is correct.

We had them.

Oh, man, we had them so good.
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