01x03 - Episode 103

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Shark t*nk". Aired: August 9, 2009 – present.*
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Shows entrepreneurs making business presentations to a panel of five venture capitalists (investors in start-ups) called "sharks" on the program, who decide whether to invest in their companies.
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01x03 - Episode 103

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- These are the sharks--
- five powerful,

self-made investors

worth billions.

Tonight they will

make or break the dreams

of hopeful entrepreneurs.

♪♪♪

In the t*nk, the sharks

are ready to invest

using their own money,

but only for the right person

with the right idea.

You have no product,

you have no sales

and you don't know your cost,

but yet, we love you.

- It goes to prove that the brand
- starts with the person.

In these tough economic times,

the sharks are the last chance

for many entrepreneurs

to get the financial backing

they desperately need.

- Wanting to make money
- is what this is all about.

You're your own worst enemy.

These are shark-infested waters.

You have no business being here.

Who are the sharks?

Kevin O'Leary

is a venture capitalist

- who started a software business
- in his basement,

which he eventually sold

for $3.2 billion.

Barbara corcoran

is a fiery real estate mogul

who turned a $1,000 loan

into a real estate empire

worth hundreds of millions.

- Kevin harrington
- is the king of infomercials.

His genius marketing

of products

- has amassed
- billions of dollars in sales.

Daymond John

turned rags to riches

with his clothing brand fubu,

which has grossed

over $6 billion to date.

And Robert herjavec,

a technology tycoon

who sold his Internet companies

for over $350 million.

If the sharks hear a good idea,

they'll fight each other

for a piece of it.

- I'm gonna make her a brand.
- I'm gonna make her a star.

I want the deal, Barbara.

Save your breath.

But first the entrepreneurs

must convince the sharks

to invest the full amount

they're asking for

or they'll walk away

with nothing.
No, I would really

- not want to give away
- more than 40% of my company.

- I'm having indigestion,
- but go on.

Then my offer is off the table.

I would spray you down
with water,

and every time you'd say

"I don't know,"

I'd hit you with

an electric cattle prod.

♪♪♪

♪ the best things

in life are free ♪

♪ but that ain't really

good enough for me ♪

♪ I need money ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

♪ what I want ♪

♪ that's what I want ♪

First into the shark t*nk

is Marian Cruz,

who believes every home cook

will want her product.

♪♪♪

Hi. my name is Marian Cruz.

My product is the turbobaster.

I'm seeking $35,000

for investment,

and I'm willing to give up



I first came with this concept

one Thanksgiving day

when I was cooking dinner

for my family.

I was using

a traditional bulb baster.

It was inefficient. It wasn't

even holding any of the fluids.

It splattered all over me.

- And I thought,
- "there's gotta be a better way."

So I developed the turbobaster.

- It's gonna replace
- the traditional bulb baster,

the basting brush.

It's also gonna replace

the injector marinade as well.

So I created the turbobaster.

Whoo!

The turbobaster is gonna be

battery-operated.

It's gonna siphon up the juices

more efficiently.

It's also come

with a silicone basting brush

so you could baste your foods

and vegetables more efficiently.

It's also gonna come

with an injector tip

to inject

your favorite marinades.

- That was amazing. It's like
- you're building a rocket.

I've been working on this

for five years,

and I think that anyone

that loves to cook will need

to have the turbobaster

in their kitchen.
I got a question.

Can you

also use the same syringe

to be a temperature Gauge

as well?

- Daymond, you've never been
- in your kitchen.

You don't even know where

the kitchen in your house is.

You could baste your hair

with mousse.

We could make a sale here, too.

How do you clean that?

- Well, it's gonna come apart
- for easy cleaning.

Can you demonstrate that here?

Well, this is

a nonworking prototype.

Oh, you don't have one yet.

- No.
- Oh, you haven't built it.

- No, because--
- you built a great video.

Could we have a look

at that, Marian?
Absolutely.

What's your estimated cost

on manufacturing these things?

- Okay, I'm thinking
- fashion kitchen colors, $19.99,

but stainless steel model,

$29.99.

- And what are you gonna
- make them for, do you think?

I have no idea. I haven't done

that part of the research.

Ooh.

Is there anything else

out there like this?
No.

But, Marian, prove to me

that there's a market.

Like, how do I know besides

your charming personality

telling me there's a market?

Right. because it does

more than one thing.

That's it?

Marian, in all seriousness,

don't you think it would have

been important to know

- what you think your estimated
- manufacturing costs are?

To know that, me,

as an investor who's gonna

give you the $35,000,

could figure out

if I'd ever get it back?

Why did you not

figure that out first?

Why didn't I? Because...

I'm a newbie,

quite honestly.

How many

of the traditional ones

are sold in the United States

right now?

You know, I have no idea.

To be honest with you,

I don't know, you know?

It's gotta be millions.

I mean, it's a big business.

Why are we helping her?

Think about this.

'Cause we love her.
I love her.

She's adorable.

I love her.

- But let me tell you something--
- if you were in one of

- my business school classes...
- You better stop - being mean to her.

- I would spray you down
- with water,

- and every time you'd say
- "I don't know,"

- I'd hit you
- with an electric cattle prod.

I mean,

you gotta know this stuff.

So, Marian,

you have no product,

you have a prototype,

you have no sales,

- you're not sure
- what you're gonna sell it for

and you don't know your costs,

but yet, we love you,

and we're enjoying

having you here.
You know...

It goes to prove that being nice

goes a long way.

It goes to prove that the brand

starts with the person.
Well said.

Absolutely.

We invest in the person.

But anybody else out here, you

would have been eaten alive.

Well, we're not finished yet.

- Marian,
- you're a nice enough person.

You're cute, you're bubbly,

but you don't know

any of your numbers.

You can't even tell me

if I could ever make a profit

on this baster.

For that reason, I'm out.

Marian...

I can't imagine investing

in a business

where I have no idea what it's

gonna cost you to produce it.

So for that reason, I'm out.

Marian, I've cut you way more

slack than anybody else,

but eventually,

I gotta know the numbers.

You have no numbers.

I'm out.

Three sharks are out,

and Marian only has

two more chances

to seal a deal.

That's a very good name--
turbobaster.

I like the functionality

of this product.

I do a lot of business on TV,

shopping channels, etcetera.

I believe there's a market

for this product. I like it.

I'd put up the $35,000.

My interest would be

in a licensing deal.

I will control the deal,

but I'll pay you a royalty then.

But, Marian, he's a shark,

as nice a guy as he's acting.

You better ask him

what the royalty is.

What is the royalty?

Want me to lend you

my electric cattle prod?

Listen, you have nothing.

Take his offer. This guy

is throwing you a lifeline.

Whatever the royalty is,

you take it and stop whining.

I'm gonna make you

a fair deal.

It would pay you 2% of sales,

I'll put up all the money,

I'll pay you a royalty,

- and you're gonna bring
- turbobaster to the marketplace,

which is what you've been trying

to do for the last five years.

So what do you think?

Do you like my offer?

I do.

Do we have a deal?

I want the turbobaster

out in the world.

I want it in every kitchen.

So run over and hug him
and take his offer.

Wait, wait, wait,

wait, wait, wait.

No, no, no, no, no. Hey.

Oh!

Hey.

What are you doing?

This is my deal.
I want--

what are we all up here for?

I want 51% of the company

for $40,000...

And 2% royalty off the top.

This way, you have a partner

who will build a bigger brand.

We will do more things

than the turbobaster.

More products

will roll out afterwards.

- As well as,
- I'm a manufacturer,

so I know how to work overseas

and get things tooled

and made more quickly.

- Look, daymond,
- I have to just say,

I've sold millions of kitchen

products over the years.

- I think you're pretty good
- at jeans, okay...

- But I don't know
- that--that Mr. daymond

has done kitchen products.

I really don't care
because I want the deal.

So you have two offers.

What are you gonna do,

baby?

With a 2% royalty

for 100% of her company,

while daymond

has offered $40,000

with 2% royalty

for a 51% stake in the company.

However, Kevin's experience

selling on TV

may be a deciding factor.

There's only one decision

you can make right now.

If this was a pair of jeans,

I'd go to daymond.

For kitchen product,

I'm your man.

I'm gonna raise it to $50,000.

Oh, dear lord.

For 51%.

Wow. that's huge.

What are you gonna do?

I just have to go where

my product is gonna do best.

This is the biggest thing

I've ever done

besides giving birth

to my kids.

♪♪♪

I can't take it anymore.

What are you gonna do?

I'm going with Kevin.

All right.

Is that a done deal?

- Fantastic.
- Nicely done. Good move.

Okay. you made the right

decision. thank you so much.
Thank you.

Okay. congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you.

Are you gonna sell these

on infomercials?

Yeah. I like the product.

It's gonna be great.

I just want

to give thanks to the sharks

for giving me this opportunity--

for showing my product

and for you to believe

in my product, the turbobaster.

♪♪♪

Next up is Bryan parks,

who believes his business

is doing its part

to save the world.

♪♪♪

My name is Bryan parks.

I live in Eugene, Oregon,

and I am an artist,

an environmentalist

and an entrepreneur.

Living in Eugene

really makes me stay true

to my goals of being

a really environmental company,

- because everybody here
- and everything is so green.

It's kind of known

as kind of a hippie place.

Hey, xiao gu.

I was living in China

six years ago,

and I became aware

of a valuable resource

that was going to waste.

Green products are hot. I have

a product that's 100% recycled.

An investment from the sharks

would be great for them

because I really feel

they could make money,

but I think it would also have

a really positive impact

on the environment.

♪♪♪

My name is Bryan parks. My

company is called chopstick art.

I'm asking for $100,000

for 10% of the company.

So you guys all know

what these are, I'm sure.

We pull them apart,

we eat a delicious Asian meal

and then we toss them out.

But what happens to them

after that?

- Well, about six years ago,
- I was living in China

- and one day a friend and I
- were eating lunch.

- Of course we were using
- chopsticks.

And we started to guess

the number of these things

- that are actually thrown out
- each year.

After some research,

- we found that the number
- was around 25 billion pairs.



of these things

were going straight

to the dump, and nobody was

- taking advantage of this free
- and valuable resource.

At the time, I thought that this

would be the perfect opportunity

to combine my passion

for the environment

- and feed
- my entrepreneurial spirit.

So I created chopstick art.

Da-dum.

Ta-da!

So here are a few

of the products

that I have designed so far,

- all made with
- recycled bamboo chopsticks.

And every one of those sticks

- has been in someone else's
- mouth, right?

- That's correct,
- but, of course, they're all

cleaned and sanitized,

and as far as I know,

nobody's gonna be licking their,

uh, lamps or their wine rack.

Um, my best-selling product

right now are these baskets.

They keep fruit really fresh,

uh, because of

good air circulation.

Bryan, tell us

what each of them sell for.

They would go for about $7,

$12, $22 and $30.

- So that thing's 30 bucks, that
- you're holding in your hand?

- Yeah. there's more.
- These baskets,

- they fold up flat, so--
- oh, that's cool.

- Isn't that cool?
- Yeah, that is cool.

- Hmm. very nice.
- So they're easy to store.

Bryan, can I see it?

Of course you can.

Here's one for you.

Bryan, what's

that thing at the end?

Oh, this is a necklace.

Do you wear it?

I do, sometimes. It didn't
go with my orange today.

Where--where have you sold to?

Since I started

five years ago,

I've done about

a half million in sales. Um...

Whoa.

It wasn't until I got

the folding baskets

that I really started

making a profit.

And then how much did you net?

Uh, about $45,000.

You must have put
a lot of your own cash,

'cause I'm just listening

to your numbers...
Of course I did.

Okay, so how much money

have you put in?
I put in about $100,000.

Of your own money?

Of my own money.

Where'd you get that money?

Uh, well, from my good friends
visa and amex.

You're asking for 10% of your

business if I give you $100,000.

That's right.

- So I multiply that times ten,
- and it tells me

you think your business

is worth $1 million.

I-I do. The amount of sales

I've--I'm doing right now--

I've said $300,000--

- that's with very little
- advertising and marketing.

Why would I, as an investor,

give you $100,000?

Like, how would I

ever get my money back?
Well, let's be straight here.

- You guys know it
- and I know it--

- you know, this isn't
- an investment

where you're gonna add millions

of dollars to your portfolio,

but this is a safe investment

that you can feel good about.

- Bryan, I look
- at a lot of products, okay?

This is not

a gotta-have type product.

This is "it's nice to have."

I'm out.

Bryan, you said it yourself.

This is not

a $100-million idea.
Right.

I-I think this is

a small business. I'm out.

The problem is, it only makes

$45,000 as a company.

So for that reason, I'm out.

I, um, I like the product,

but it's not big enough for me,

so I'm out.

Right.

You have no business being here.

These are shark-infested waters.

You would get somebody

as your partner here

and be miserable.

I'm out.

- Just not big enough, Bryan.
- But you did a good job.

Great job.

And, Bryan, c-can I h--can I

have the basket for my wife?

You can.

Thank you, Bryan.

Good luck making

billions of dollars

and catch you later.

Thanks.

He was a nice guy.

Nothing wrong with that.

Nice? he's beyond nice.

He's a sweetie pie. Whew.

I want you

to invite me over for dinner

when you give that basket

to your wife,

and I'm gonna tell her

where those sticks were.

Uh, I'm a little bummed out.

I-I thought they would see more

value in it than they did.

♪♪♪

Who believes

her homegrown business

has the potential

to make millions.

♪♪♪

My name is Lori lite, and I live

in marietta, Georgia.

My husband Rick and I

have three children,

and we are very proud of them.

Raising children

is really stressful,

- and my son made matters
- even worse

- because we couldn't put him
- to bed at night.

- The stress got so bad
- that my aunt forced me

to go to

stress management classes...

So that I could learn

relaxation techniques.

One night while I was

putting my son to sleep,

I used the same techniques

on my son.

My husband was

standing in the hallway

listening to the whole thing.

- When I came out of the room,
- he hugged me,

and he said,

"Lori, that was great.

You can help thousands

of children and parents."

- And basically,
- it inspired a whole business.

But what I do takes money--

up-front money--

and we're always going

from--from dollar to dollar,

hand to mouth, and we've

put everything on the line.

- I mean,
- my house is on the market.

Um, we're sharing one car now.

- I don't have
- anywhere else to go.

I know I have an effective

product, but I need help

- to get this out into
- every household in America.

- Parents need to know
- about my product,

- and the sharks
- can help me do that.

♪♪♪

Hi. I'm Lori lite,

and the name of my company

is stress free kids.

I'm asking you to invest

$250,000 in my company

in exchange for 20%.

I'm a hands-on mom

that has dealt

with real stress and anxiety

while raising my three children.

My son was hyperactive.

Every night, it took me

two hours to put him to bed.

Luckily for me,

I learned to do

stress management techniques

that had an immediate effect

on me.

I wondered,

what would it be like

if I could get my son

to do the same techniques?

I began to create a story

that entertained him,

but at the same time,

incorporated an actual

stress management technique.

To my amazement, my son followed

along and fell asleep.

Now I have a whole line

of books and cds

that help children

manage stress

while promoting

their self-esteem

and a more peaceful sleep.

Can you give me an example,

a quick paragraph

or something?

- 'Cause, you know, - sitting up here...
- I can.

With these people--

a lot of stress.

And, Lori, what

you're going to read to us,

did you write that yourself?

Yes. I not only wrote,

but I produced and I published.

Wow.

Okay, this is "angry octopus."

This is an example of using

progressive muscular relaxation.

"And the sea child continued.

"'Tighten the muscles

in your chest,

'your neck and your shoulders."

Come on, guys. Do it.

"'Tighten them as tight

as you can. Hold, hold, hold.'"

ahh!

Ahh!

"Now let the air

out of your mouth

"and feel all the tension

in your chest,

neck and shoulders

drift away."

It's very good.

Yeah, the words are very,

uh, very soothing.

Thank you.

How much have you made

in sales of this stuff?

Uh, well, last year

I moved 30,000 units and...

Wow.

Whoa.

- 30,000 units?
- Yes.

- Out of your home?
- Out of your kitchen?

Out of my kitchen.

So, Lori, on the 30,000 units

you sold last year...

Yes.

What was the total sales?

$180,000 in revenues.

On that $180,000, how much did

you make? How much was left--

$50,000 in profit.

Wow.

I'm curious about your husband.

Is he in on this with you?

What's his role?

Oh, yes. Well, you know,

basically,

I made him quit his job.

Whoa.

He helps with sales

and marketing and--

so the $50,000

that you made profit

- was between you
- and your husband both?

Well, yes. We're married

for 23 years. We--we share.

Is there real proof out there

that children are feeling

this kind of stress,

that there's a real market

for that?

There is.

I think it's 13 out of a hundred

children have anxiety disorders.

Why haven't you gone

to a children's book publisher

- and say, "look what I've done.
- I've sold 30,000 of these.

Give me a deal.

I'm a great author"?

Because honestly, my first two

books were with a publisher.

And then after that,

I decided that I wanted

to do my own publishing.

Why didn't it work

with the publisher?

- Why didn't it work
- the other way?

Um, well, you get paid

a very small percentage.

- But you sell a lot of books.
- No, I sell more books - by myself.

- Why didn't you sell
- a lot through the publisher?

What do you think

went wrong there?

Well, they don't promote you

unless you're a known name.

Lori, how much of your

personal money is in this?

$200,000.

All of the models

- of children's books
- and children's publishing,

the only way you make money

in that business

is you get massive distribution.

There are two giant retailers

that control

the physical distribution

and one online one.

And until you have

all three of those...

Amazon is--is my biggest.

Yes. borders?

Uh, borders, Barnes & noble.

Yes, I'm on or I'm in

all of those places.

You have all the distribution.

- But then why
- aren't the sales more?

- Well, more importantly, what are
- you gonna do with my money?

I mean, but this is--

I-I-i really can't believe

- that you are not appreciating - what I've done.
- I very much--

no, no, no, no, no.

We are appreciating it. It looks

like a pot of gold right now,

but there's something--

this is a pot of gold.

There is something missing.

- Where you're losing me is,
- you're in

every distribution channel

you could possibly be in.

Yes.

I give you $250,000...

Yes.

How do Amazon sales go up?

- Um, there are--there are things
- I could do on Amazon

to PR--to promote, advertising

opportunities that will promote.

But, Lori, you're making,

uh, about $50,000 a year.

Correct.

You know there's

a bad economy out there.

I know.

Based on your offer

of $250,000 for 20%,

you're saying your business

is worth over $1 million today.

Correct.

But it's only earning

$50,000.

Help me understand the gap.

Well, I was basing--I'm basing

that based on my revenues,

- you know, that I'm making.
- But your revenues are $180,000.

But I believe--you know,

some of this comes from belief.

You know?

What I was hoping

you were gonna say

was that the reason

you're not selling more

is 'cause you can't

fund inventory.

Okay.

I think, uh, your valuation

is so crazy out there.

So I'm out.

Well, just--

okay. that's fine.

I'll make it easy from my side.

I see ten products here.

I like to focus on one item that

I can sell a million pieces.

So I'm out.

Two sharks are out.

Lori only has three more

chances to get a deal.

I'll make you an offer.

$250,000 for 100%

of your company.

That's it.

No. no.

I'm out.

I think that you are a star.

Oh, thank you, daymond.

I needed a moment

of a compliment. Thank you.

I think that

that is a brand.

Thank you.

I will offer you...

$250,000...

For 51%

of your company.



I'm gonna offer you

the same deal, but just for 50%.



For 50 versus 51.

Now you know the difference

between 50% and 51% is...

Yes.

That we decide together

what we do.

- With daymond, he would make
- all the decisions.

He'd have the final call.

So you're saying you think

this business is worth--

but daymond will end up having

a clothing company out of it,

- a bedding company out of it,
- pots and pans.

We'll be cooking

on an "angry octopus" --

pots and pans?

Yeah,

"angry octopus" toasters.

- I'm gonna make her a brand.
- I'm gonna make her a star.

I want the deal, Barbara.

I gotta tell you,

these people are offering you--

ten times valuation

is a very, very good offer

that you should think about.

- And I also think--
- as a husband of 19 years--

you should call your husband

and ask him what he thinks.

- I would like to do that.
- All right. Make that call.

I'll be back.

♪♪♪

- You know,
- for a self-published author,

anything over 10,000 units

is incredible.

Whoa!

She made the cardinal mistake

of small business people.

She overvalued her business.

Obviously not. She's got

two offers on the table.

This business is not worth--

hi. I just was swimming

with the sharks.

Okay.

- They--they bit a little bit.
- Okay.

Barbara wants



And daymond wants



but he's selling his deal

as that he is going to brand us.

Yeah, I mean, as far

as giving up 51% of the company,

you're giving up control

of your company--

- that's--that's not
- what we're about.

Um, what about a counter, Rick?

I think you need to--to play,

um, you know, to play hardball.

Okay.

All right.

Don't forget. You know

how to deal with sharks.

I know. Love you.

All right. Love you.

Love you, too.

Bye.

♪♪♪

So what did hubby say?

Well, because we put so much

sweat and--and heart into this,

it's hard to give away.

So with that in mind,

um, you know,

I would really not want

to give away more than 40%

of my company

in exchange for $250,000,

and I think that's very fair.

I mean, these are my babies.

I mean...

I'm stunned.

- Well, I must be quite direct
- with you

and say that my offer

is off the table.

One from daymond

for 51% of the company

and one from Barbara

asking for 50% of the company.

But Lori's counter-offer

has jeopardized everything.

My offer is off the table,

because I would have to feel

- as though I had at least 50%
- of the control.

I like to watch my money,

not let somebody else decide

what they want to do with it.

But thank you.

Okay, I can understand that,

- and I'd like to keep that alive
- for a few minutes.

I would absolutely need 51%.



I think that I have a lot of

money sitting in front of you.

That is a quarter

of a million dollars.

I know.

And my offer

is off the table, then...

If I cannot get controlling.

Well, I have to be honest.

I lo--i love your idea

of--of the branding,

but I also think--but--

that Barbara has that ability

to do that with us as well.

And the 50% is more attractive

than the 51%.

And, um,

I think we can work together.

Is that a yes?

I accept your deal.

It's a crazy deal, but crazier

things have happened.

Not a crazy deal at all.

Not for a minute.

- Thank you.
- A pleasure.

- From one mom to another, - thank you.
- Of course. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Congratulations.

- Barbara, my friend, you made
- a horrible mistake here.

Oh! we'll see.

You put your personal,

uh, charity and goodwill

ahead of

your investment acumen.

- It's not worth $500,000. - But I'm
rich enough - to take that luxury.

This lady will bring it in.

Trust me.

She's one of those types

that brings it in.

She's a star.

- I don't know what just happened
- in there. It was crazy.

- They said I was crazy,
- my numbers were crazy,

but all I can tell you is,

I got a deal.

I-I think I got a good deal.

Next up is Ken Bradford,

who believes he has a powerful

educational tool for kids.

♪♪♪

Ken Bradford here

for 50 state capitals

in 50 fun minutes.

It's a deck of flash cards

with a cd included.

Sharks, I'm asking you

for $155,000

for a 10% equity position

in my business.

So could I have your permission

to show you how the cards work

and how it will make

these types of cards we've been

using for 200 years obsolete?

Ready?

Let's go.

Shark school.

"Pencil-vania"

through a hairy burger

for Harrisburg.

Everybody got this?

You got this. Let's roll on.

"Ar-can saw."

Through the can, little rock.

Let's do another one.

California.

You'll get this. Cow with

his toes on a sack of mints.

Got it?

Oh! oh! Sacramento.

Sacramento. I've got

all 50 of these worked out.

Ken, have you--

have you sold this already?

I sold one.

I've--I've had this

for five weeks,

finished as a prototype.

You know, the business

isn't worth anything right now.

It's not worth anything yet

till it gets into,

let's call it, 30 schools.

Exactly.

But for that reason,

I don't see an opportunity

to make a lot of money.

I'm out.

Let me tell you, I believe kids

can learn this way.

I think

it's an adorable idea.

But I don't think it's anything

you're gonna get any money for,

so I'm out.

Ken, it's just

too much risk for me,

so I'm sorry, but I'm out.

I think you have a much better

career in being a designer.

I like that outfit...

Which is great,

but you have no sales.

It's not proven.

And I'd have to say

that I'm out.

Well, I have a couple of cards

for you.

Eye?

- I-I'm...
- I...

Out. I'm out.

Out.

All right, Ken,

thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, all.

$155,000. wow.

♪♪♪

- I'm Jeff Cohen,
- and my son Josh and I have

the most unique musical product

to hit the market

in many, many years.

I love music. Josh loves music,

and he's a great musician.

Working with this company

- has been a terrific bonding
- opportunity for the two of us.

In fact, I-i really can thank

this company

for fostering just a--

just a fabulous

father/son relationship.

That's it.

I've invested a lot of time,

a lot of money

- and my personal reputation
- in this company.

And I'm afraid that

if I don't get this financing

in place quickly,

that all might be wasted.

♪♪♪

- Hi, I'm Jeff Cohen, c.E.O.
- Of voyage air guitar.

- I'm here with my son Josh.
- Hi.

And we're raising $500,000

in this round of financing

for 5% of the company.

Wow.

Oh! whoa!

Oh, excuse me.

I--something hit me there.

- Well,
- the product that we have

is an incredibly innovative

guitar.

- In fact, I think you could say
- it's the most innovative guitar

- in a century
- of guitar building.

Not only do these guitars

look incredible...

Whoo!

- They sound incredible.
- But that's not all they do.

- They don't just look good.
- They don't just sound good...

They fold in half.

They fold in half so that

you never have to travel again

without your guitar.

What makes this work

is this patented hinge.

And not only

is the hinge patented,

- when we built this guitar,
- we had to totally change

the way a guitar has been made

for hundreds of years.

Now the guitar is designed

to fit neatly in a backpack,

- to fit safely in the overhead
- compartment on an airline.

- It's designed
- so you could throw

- a half a dozen of 'em
- in the trunk of your car.

- You could ride your bike
- with it.

- You could take a walk with it.
- Easily fits on your back.

- You always have your guitar
- with you.

- Bring that over here.
- I want to do it.

- I want to see
- if it stays in tune

or I have to retune the whole

thing every time I do that.

'Cause to me,

that would be a big hassle.

So grab the neck.

Yeah.

There you go.

And take the body--

- yeah. - Take the body. Put it under
- your armpit as so.

Yeah.

Just push and twist.

Oh, I like

that little snap thing.

Yeah. and, uh...

Okay. it was in tune, so let's

see if it's in tune right now.

'Cause I bet

it's not gonna be in tune.

For how much?

♪♪♪

Sounds the same.

Okay, I will admit,

this thing stayed in tune.

I'd buy it.

Jeff, is it patented?

Do you own the patent

to the neck hinge thing?

Yes.

Yes.

Do you have sales?

- We launched
- in january/february.

- We've sold about--
- well, we've sold

all the units we've built,

about 800 units.

Right now we're generating

a relatively small amount

- of revenue because we're not
- building them fast enough.

- What we want
- additional capital for

is to build out the inventory.

What did the 800 units create

in revenue?



wholesale price is only $500.

That's about $400,000.

So you have sales of $400,000?

How much of that

was profitable?

Oh, we're--we're

cash flow negative.

So, Jeff, if you're asking

for half a million dollars...

Mm-hmm.

For 5% of your business...

Correct.

Which makes the overall business

worth $10 million.

Yes. yes.

And you've only sold

$400,000 worth of guitars.

Right.

Do you see any

problem with that?

I-I see no problem with that.

I think--

I see greed. I see greed.

Well, this is a product

that has a 50% gross margin.

There are



- just in the United States
- every year,

and there is absolutely

no reason why anybody

that buys a guitar today

wouldn't want the flexibility

to be able to fold it in half

and take it with them.

Let me ask

- a really simple question
- before you go any further.

I know I look like a hip

rock star--i realize that--

but I actually don't play

the guitar.

If the hinge is unique

and patented...

Mm-hmm. yep.

There are lots of people

that make guitars already.

Right.

Why not license

the hinge idea to them,

sit at home,

collect the royalty,

- which means
- they just send you the money

- every time they sell one--
- well--

why aren't you doing that?

It--it's easier to get them

to come to the table

if I've demonstrated market

acceptance of this product.

Once I've demonstrated--

we have to build

a whole guitar company--

I've already done it.

I've already done it.

- I have - complete manufacturing--
- but you haven't sold any yet.

I have--we just launched.

Jeff, you confuse me

a little bit.

Okay.

'Cause I'm not clear.

I mean, answer this for me.

Okay.

Do you want to make

a great guitar

- or do you want to make
- a lot of money?

Well, I want to make

a lot of money...

No, no, no, no.

Building a great guitar.

I don't want to make

a great guitar.

- I just want to make
- a lot of money.

- And I think you have
- a great product.

I think we can license it.

What will you sell me

the rights to that patent for?

I would be interested in...



Okay.

For $1 million.

Do you say a million?

Yes.

A million.

Jeff has offered the sharks



for $1 million.

Jeff, you're looking

for $1 million now.

I'm having indigestion,

but go on.

- Nobody knows
- they can't do without this.

- I'll make you an offer. - Here's how it works.
- Okay.

In the context

of the guitar industry,

you're a nothing-burger still.

I'll give you $500,000

for 51% of the company

that owns this patent.

- So--so answer the question
- for me.

Why do I need you

to license the guitar?

I have tremendous experience

in the license space.

You wish I was your partner.

So you said you have tremendous

experience doing license deals.

Just hit me with one as--

I mean, for--

my whole company that sold for

$3.2 billion was all licenses.

Did--did you say $3.2

with a "b"?

Yes, I did.

♪♪♪

I won't give up 51%.

Okay.

Why? you're your own

worst enemy.

I'm not gonna give up control.

That's the problem.

Jeff, I'm out, then.

If you're not willing to give up

the 51%, I'm out.

I'm gonna

defend you against you.

That's why I want 51%.

That's why it's so important.

You understand why that matters?

You have a different vision.

You need a partner that only has

one direction--creating wealth.

Kevin, is your--your offer

is $500,000...

For 51%.

I would go $250,000 for that

to bring the TV to the table

on this--this offer.

Then be my partner in the deal.

But it's a 51%--

- how would that--can you tell me,
- through your infomercials,

how many units--how--

what--what could you push?

You could sell

hundreds of thousands.

He has the power of television.

- That's one of the partners - you get.
- ...portfolio.

You guys are in the--you're

going in the wrong direction.

It's so obvious,

Mr. guitar guy

and son who hasn't said

anything yet.

Do you speak?

I do speak.

All right, if I--I'd

be more interested if we--

if he were back in.

He's history. He's gone.

Barbara?

I think there's a fly

in the ointment.

I don't think it's so easy

to create change

with a big manufacturer,

and when you start

selling them on that hinge,

I bet there's gonna be

some other little nuance that

gets in the way of the deal.

- So I'm too nervous to be in,
- so I'm out.

Jeff, it doesn't seem like

you know what you want.

I'm out.

Three sharks are out,

and there is one offer left

on the table.

Yes or no?

I would accept

a deal, 50/50...

And then--and we're done.

That's not the deal

on the table.

Yes or no?

I don't accept the deal

that's on the table.

I'm stunned of your greed,

your absolute greed.

You just said that greed--

wanting to make money

is what this is all about.

You had an opportunity to make

money, and you passed on it.

That's not all this is about.

You're a tragedy.

You're a human tragedy.

You've given me

a lot to think about.

- You're brilliant
- business people.

I'm gonna have to decline, but I

hope we have an opportunity

to work together down the road

on this project or on others.

There is no tomorrow.

You're dead to me when you

say no to my deal. You're dead.

You're gone. I don't even know

who you are. You're a vapor.

Jeff, thanks. I'll send you

an invoice for my time.

Unbelievable. unbelievable.

I told you so.

That was painful. Painful.

Unbelievable.

That guy had a real sh*t

at making money and said no.

This could be $100 million

on TV. $100 million.

That was painful.

That is a human tragedy,

and he's teaching his son that.

It's a crime.

He should be arrested.

They were very smart to ask

for the deal they did.

And hopefully, I was

just as smart to say no.

Of course you were.

- Time will tell.
- Ask me 12 months from now

- whether or not it was
- the right decision.

Next week on "shark t*nk"...

What if I gave you $450,000?

No.

$500,000?

Take the money,

you crazy chickens.

This deal that you're

offering me is a shark deal.

Oh, really?

Guess what.

- I didn't want to get orders
- and promise delivery

- until I had the capital
- to get 'em done.

- What you just said - was un-American!
- On that note, I'm out.

- But--but--but--but--but wait.
- The next guy's - gonna walk in here

- and get my money,
- and he'll get rich, but not you.

- You are dead to me
- if you turn around.

Oh, my.
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