Outrage (2009)

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Dave Karsnia over tape:

All right.

The date is 6/11/07

at 12:28 hours.

You have the right

to remain silent.

Anything you say can

and will be used against you

in a court of law.

Do you understand

each of these rights as I

explained them to you?

- Larry Craig: I do.

- Karsnia: Do you wish

to talk to us at this time?

Craig: I do.

So let's start

from the beginning.

You went in the bathroom.

I went in the bathroom.

I got in a stall,

sat down.

Your foot came towards mine,

mine came towards yours.

Was that natural?

I don't know.

Did we bump?

Yes, I think we did.

The next thing I knew,

under the bathroom divider

comes a card

that says "Police."

- Karsnia:

What about your hand?

- Craig: What about my hand?

I could see

the gold wedding ring.

I could see that.

Have you been successful

in these bathrooms here before?

No, absolutely not.

I don't seek

activity in bathrooms.

You're not

being truthful to me.

I'm kind of disappointed

in you, Senator.

I'm real disappointed

right now.

Sir, we deal with people

that lie to us every day.

- Craig: Gentlemen, so do I.

- Karsnia: I'm sure you do.

I've never had to bring

anybody to jail

because everybody's

been truthful to me.

I don't want you

to take me to jail.

I'm not gonna

take you to jail

as long as you're

being cooperative.

People vote for you.

I'm a respectable person

and I don't do these

kinds of--

Where's your respect

right now though?

I-I-- I am not g*y.

I don't do these

kinds of things.

- Karsnia: I saw--

- Craig: I don't do

those things.

James McGreevey:

AT ITS FUNDAMENTAL CORE,

AT ITS BASE,

IT IS SO PROFOUNDLY

UNHEALTHY.

BECAUSE IT GOES BACK

TO THAT SIMPLE MANIFESTATION,

THAT SIMPLE

SHAKESPEAREAN QUOTE:

"UNTO THINE OWN SELF

BE TRUE."

YOU HAVE TO BE

TRUE TO YOURSELF.

AND THEN, GOD WILLING,

TRUE TO YOUR LOVED ONES,

TO YOUR COMMUNITY,

TO YOUR PUBLIC.

Reporter:

...turning out at Washington,

DC, where the report

of the arrest

of Senator Larry Craig

is generating

a massive media frenzy.

Reporter #2:

Breaking tonight, a Republican

senator busted by police.

Craig's arrest

was first reported

about 24 hours or so ago.

Reporter #3:

A day later "The Idaho

Statesman"

published the story

it had been holding.

Republican Senator

Larry Craig from Idaho

again will be having

a news conference

in 45 minutes.

Craig:

Thank you all very much

for coming out today.

First, please let me

apologize

to my family,

friends and staff

and fellow Idahoans

for the cloud placed

over Idaho.

Man:

Senator, what happened

in Minneapolis?

Man #2:

Hey, what if you are g*y?

Man #3:

Come out

of the closet.

Man #4:

It's all right, man.

Come on, Larry. Be g*y!

Kevin Naff:

I THINK IT'S VERY SAD.

THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS

LIVED IN THE CLOSE HIS WHOLE LIFE,

HAS PROBABLY

CHEATED ON HIS WIFE

ANY NUMBER OF TIMES.

IT'S A TWISTED KIND OF

PSYCHOLOGICAL THING

THAT HAPPENS.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CLOSE AND LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE,

IT MAKES YOU DO

CRAZY THINGS.

AND FOR A UNITED STATES

SENATOR

TO BE SOLICITING SEX

IN A PUBLIC RESTROOM

IS A CRAZY THING.

TO UNDERSTAND HIS STORY

AND ALL OF THESE STORIES,

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

WHERE THE CULTURE WAS.

IN 1955,

MY NEWSPAPER REPORTED

ON A g*y SEX SCANDAL

INVOLVING ALLEGEDLY

UNDERAGE MEN

AND POWERFUL PEOPLE

IN BOISE.

AMONG THE HEADLINES

ON OUR EDITORIAL PAGE

WAS ONE THAT READ

"CRUSH THE MONSTER,"

THE MONSTER BEING

h*m* PERVERSITY.

THAT WAS 1955.

LARRY CRAIG WAS

10 YEARS OLD.

AND I IMAGINE HIM

THINKING THA THAT WAS AN ABJECT LESSON

THAT HE NEEDED TO HEED,

THAT HE COULDN'T ASPIRE TO BE

A UNITED STATES SENATOR

AND BE g*y

AT THE SAME TIME.

EVERY TIME HE WAS

UP FOR ELECTION,

THE QUESTION WAS RAISED--

WILL SOMEONE RAISE

THE ISSUE?

Good evening.

The Capitol Hill investigation

of sex and drugs

which had existed mainly

in the congressional

rumor mill

today took on

the attributes of a serious

and spreading scandal.

Woman:

The FBI formed

a special squad

to investigate allegations

of h*m* activity

between congressmen

and teenage pages.

One congressman came forward

after rumors surfaced

that he was involved

in the case.

I have always been

aggressive and upfront

with what I believe in.

And when I have

people telling me

that a whole series

of false accusations

are made against

my character,

frankly,

it makes me mad as hell.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE

WHO ARE g*y

WHO ARE IN PUBLIC SERVICE

SEEM TO THINK

THAT THEY'RE IMMUNE

FROM BEING EXPOSED.

AND THEY GO OUT.

THEY GO TO BARS.

THEY GO TO CLUBS.

THEY EVEN GO TO BATHHOUSES.

David Phillips:

WHEN I WAS REALLY YOUNG

IN D.C. BACK IN THE '80s,

ONE OF MY FAVORITE

PLACES TO GO BACK THEN

WAS "THE FOLLIES."

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MEN

I SAW THERE FROM TIME TO TIME

AND HE WAS ONE OF THOSE.

HE HAD TAKEN

NOTICE OF ME

AND THEN HE SAID,

"LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE"

AND I PROCEEDED

TO FOLLOW HIM

TO HIS HOUSE

ON CAPITOL HILL.

THERE WERE PICTURES

OF FAMILY AROUND

AND A CARD THAT WAS

ADDRESSED TO SUZANNE CRAIG.

WE THEN WOUND UP

PERFORMING ORAL SEX

ON EACH OTHER

AND THEN HE WANTED

TO f*ck ME.

ONCE HE HAD COME,

IT WAS EVERYTHING

TO GET ME BACK OUT OF THERE.

HE GRABBED ME

BY THE SHOULDER

AND VERY BOLDLY SAID,

"REMEMBER,

YOU NEVER SAW ME.

YOU'VE NEVER BEEN HERE."

AND HE REACHED

INTO HIS POCKET,

TOOK OUT A $20 BILL,

SHOVED IT IN MY BACK POCKE WITH ONE FINGER

AND SAID,

"JUST REMEMBER,

I CAN BUY AND SELL

YOUR a*s 1,000 TIMES."

Let me be clear:

I am not g*y.

I never have been g*y.

IT'S VERY OFTEN THOSE

SELF-HATING g*y PEOPLE WHO,

IN THE CLOSET,

ARE THE MOST VICIOUS

TOWARDS OTHER GAYS

AND LESBIANS

AS A WAY TO KIND

OF DEFLECT ATTENTION

FROM THEIR OWN ORIENTATION.

THERE IS NOT ONE

CIVIL RIGHTS LAW

AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL

THAT EXISTS

TO PROTECT g*y,

l*sbian, BISEXUAL

OR TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY

NOT ONE LAW.

Catania:

THE FACT THAT SENATOR CRAIG

AND THOSE LIKE HIM

CAN ENGAGE IN h*m*

ACTIVITY ONE MINUTE

AND THEN TRY TO WRITE US

OUT OF EXISTENCE THE NEXT--

THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT HARSH

ENOUGH AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

Reporter:

He was a powerful force

on senate committees,

a solid family-values

conservative.

The American people

already know

that Bill Clinton is

a bad boy,

a naughty boy.

I'm going to speak out

for the citizens

of my state who,

in the majority,

think that Bill Clinton

is probably even

a nasty bad naughty boy.

Reporter:

But in October 2006,

eight months before

the senator's arrest

in Minneapolis,

a g*y activist named

Michael Rogers

who makes it

his business to out

conservative politicians

wrote in his blog that

he'd interviewed several men

who'd claimed to have had sex

with Senator Larry Craig.

Michael Rogers:

IN OCTOBER OF '06

I OUTED LARRY CRAIG.

I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAD SEX

WITH LARRY CRAIG IN A RESTROOM

AT UNION STATION.

THAT, TO ME, IS THE CRUX

OF THE CASE RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT NOW I HAVE

A NUMBER OF OPEN FILES

OF FOLKS THA I'M ACTIVELY LOOKING AT,

FROM A U.S. CABINET OFFICIAL

TO OFFICES OF SOME PRETTY

ANTIGAY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

SO I'M HERE.

I'M GETTING READY

TO GO ON "HANNITY & COLMES"

TONIGHT AT 9:00.

DAVID'S WITH ME,

HELPING ME OUT ON SOME

OF MY TALKING POINTS.

- SAY HI, DAVID.

- HELLO.

CAN'T LET THE RIGHT WING BE

THE ONLY ONES WITH THE FLAG.

I ACTUALLY ONCE HAD SOMEBODY

ASK ME ON FOX NEWS,

"ARE YOU SURE YOU WAN TO WEAR THAT FLAG?"

"YEAH, I AM."

SO, DAVID, WHY DON'T YOU

FIRE ME A FEW QUESTIONS

LIKE HOW HANNITY'S

GOING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW?

"MIKE, HOW IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING

DIFFERENT THAN McCARTHYISM?"

- THIS IS McCARTHYISM!"

- FIRST OF ALL,

SEAN, McCARTHY

WAS A LIAR.

McCARTHY PUT OU FALSE INFORMATION

- ABOUT AMERICANS.

- OH NO!

THAT'S JUST THE SAUCE.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO CUT YOU

OFF RIGHT THERE.

- MIKE-- MIKE-- MIKE--

- SEAN-- SEAN-- SEAN--

- WE'RE OUTTA TIME.

- THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.

YOUR MOUTH WILL OPEN,

BUT NOTHING WILL COME

OUT OF IT.

Hannity:

Breaking news tonight.

Fox News has confirmed

that Senator Larry Craig

may be reconsidering his

decision to resign.

Joining us now

with reaction to this story

is blogger Mike Rogers,

who called for an investigation

into Craig last year.

All right, from the beginning.

HI, SEAN, AND GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.

Larry Craig is a hypocrite.

He is an antigay

closeted individual

who has sex with other men.

I read what you had

and apparently this tape

of this one guy

that "The Idaho Statesman"

followed up on.

- It was a-- wait,

hang on a second.

- It's not one guy, Sean.

It was an anonymous source--

why doesn't the guy go

on the record?

Sean, it's not one guy.

It's now three or four.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY

NO DOUBT IN MY MIND.

I HAVE HEARD PHYSICAL

CHARACTERISTICS REPEATED TO ME

FROM VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS.

I don't know

about Senator Craig.

I'm going to be honest,

- I don't have the details.

There is suspicion--

- I DO, I DO.

Are there others in the same

category as Larry Craig

who you think whose names

will be forthcoming

because of your work?

ABSOLUTELY.

THERE ARE NAMES

OF THE FOLKS IN CONGRESS

IN HIGH POSITIONS OF POWER

WHO ARE LEADING A SECRE DOUBLE LIFE.

And what I would say to Sean is,

Sean, where do you stand

with Larry Craig?

And will you stand

in the same position

if other

two-lived hypocrites

ARE EXPOSED?

BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU

THAT THERE IS NO SHORTAGE.

( silent )

Rogers:

MY FIRST VERY BIG CASE

WAS THIS CONGRESSMAN

IN VIRGINIA BY THE NAME

OF ED SCHROCK.

Rogers:

A MONTH LATER, I GOT A TIP

THAT THERE WAS

A CONGRESSMAN WHO WAS g*y

AND THAT HE WAS USING

AN INTERACTIVE PHONE

DATING SERVICE

TO FIND WHAT MAY BE

KNOWN AS INSTA-SEX,

OR, YOU KNOW, TO HOOK UP

WITH SOMEBODY FOR SEX.

AND THE FIRST THING

I SAID TO THE PERSON WAS,

"THIS IS INSANE.

I CAN'T PUT UP

THAT A CONGRESSMAN

IS USING AN INTERACTIVE

PHONE SERVICE WITHOUT PROOF.

I MEAN, THAT'S A HELL

OF A CHARGE TO LEVY."

AND HE SAYS, "I HAVE SEVERAL

RECORDINGS OF THE CONGRESSMAN

GOING ON THE PHONE LINE

TO MEET A MAN FOR SEX.

AND THEY'RE VERY EXPLICIT."

AND I WAS LIKE, WOW!

( phone dialing )

( recording playing )

( phone clicks )

SO I TOOK THE RECORDINGS

AND WENT AHEAD

AND REPORTED

ON ED SCHROCK ON MY BLOG.

A case of the moral hunter

becoming the moral hunted.

Congressman Edward Schrock,

a Virginia Republican

who once co-sponsored a bill

to ban same-sex marriage,

dropped out of his bid

for re-election last month.

Rogers:

HE NEVER ADMITTED

THAT THEY WERE HIM,

BUT HE RESIGNED

FROM HIS RE-ELECTION.

THERE IT IS.

I AM GOING TO TELL PEOPLE

WHO THESE HORRIBLE TRAITORS ARE.

AND THEY ARE TRAITORS

TO THEIR PEOPLE.

I BELIEVE THAT.

AND I FEL THAT IT WAS TIME

FOR ME TO STAR REPORTING THAT AS HYPOCRISY.

NOT OUTING PEOPLE

WHO ARE g*y,

BUT REPORTING

ON INDIVIDUALS

WHO ARE WORKING

AGAINST THE COMMUNITY

THAT THEY THEN EXPEC TO PROTECT THEM.

BE WAITING IN FRON OF 1600 BROADWAY.

THAT'S PERFECT.

Catania:

MICHAEL HAS DECIDED

THAT THEY HAVE BEEN

CHASING US FOR YEARS.

AND WHAT MICHAEL REPRESENTS IS,

"WE'RE GONNA CHASE BACK."

NOW THAT UPSETS THE RULES

BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS

THE HOUNDS CHASE THE FOXES.

WELL, THIS FOX IS

CHASING THE HOUNDS.

AND IT'S GOT THEM

ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE.

AND I SAY

MORE POWER TO HIM.

I THINK OUTING

IS A...

FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG

AND DISHONEST THING TO DO.

NO ONE CAN EVER KNOW

OR UNDERSTAND

THE PERSONAL JOURNEY

THAT AN INDIVIDUAL TAKES

TO ACCEPTING THE FAC THAT THEY ARE g*y OR l*sbian.

I JUST FEEL SYMPATHY

WHEN THEY ARE EXPOSED THAT WAY.

I THINK EVERY g*y PERSON

KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE

TO HAVE YOUR PRIVACY

RIPPED APART.

THERE IS A RIGHT TO PRIVACY,

BUT NOT A RIGHT TO HYPOCRISY.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THA THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE LAW

BE SUBJECT TO THE LAW.

PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SUBJEC TO LAWS WILL MAKE HARSH LAWS

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE

TO LIVE WITH THEM.

HAVING THE PEOPLE

WHO MAKE THE LAW

BE FULLY COVERED BY THE LAW

IS A SAFEGUARD

AGAINST UNFAIRNESS.

THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE

ON WHICH OUR DEMOCRACY

IS IN PART BUIL THAT g*y PEOPLE

WHO SUPPORT h*m*

ARE VIOLATING.

Anchor:

And now to Campaign 2006.

He's been the state's

attorney general and education

commissioner and on Tuesday,

Charlie Crist hopes

to be elected governor.

Reporter:

Charlie Crist--

50, single, no kids,

doesn't own a home,

wants to live in

the governor's mansion.

I'm a consistent

conservative.

I can continue to stand

for the things that

I believe in.

Reporter:

At a stop in Miami,

the tone was urgent.

I need you to get it out there.

I need your vote.

I need your heart.

I need your passion.

Get out there,

get it done.

Viva Crist. Let's win.

God bless you.

I believe that marriage

is a sacred relationship

between a man

and a woman.

I've always felt that way

and I still believe that now.

Marriage is a relationship

like my mother and father had,

like I had

before I got divorced.

It is one of those

unique institutions--

not only in America,

but across the world--

where a man and a woman

commit to one another.

( dial tone hums )

( keypad beeps )

Please leave a message.

HI, BRUCE.

THIS IS BOB NORMAN

WITH "NEW TIMES."

I AM A JOURNALIST WHO WORKS

IN THE ALTERNATIVE REALM.

I DO THE STORIES THA THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

DOESN'T DO.

I HAD WRITTEN

ABOUT MARK FOLEY IN 2003.

THAT HAD GOTTEN A TREMENDOUS

AMOUNT OF ATTENTION.

THAT WAS WHAT LED TO

MY INVOLVEMENT WITH CRIS IN TERMS OF WRITING

ABOUT CRIST.

A SOURCE CONTACTED ME

VIA EMAIL.

THIS SOURCE WAS

AT A DINNER PARTY

AT A MULTIMILLION

DOLLAR MANSION

IN FORT LAUDERDALE.

AND HE WAS WITH A YOUNG STAFFER

NAMED JASON WETHERINGTON.

JASON WAS A YOUNG

REPUBLICAN STAFFER

WORKING FOR

KATHERINE HARRIS,

THE FAMOUS MASCARA'D QUEEN

OF THE 2000 ELECTION.

JASON SAID THAT HE HAD

MET CHARLIE CRIST,

HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM--

A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,

AND HE EXPECTED AFTER CRIS WON THE ELECTION,

HE WOULD GET AN APPOINTMEN TO CRIST'S ADMINISTRATION

AND THAT HE HAD HOPED

TO CONTINUE THE RELATIONSHIP.

I FELT THAT THIS SOURCE

WAS COMPLETELY EARNES AND HONEST.

SO I DECIDED I WAS GOING

TO GO SEE JASON WETHERINGTON.

HE WAS VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE

WITH THE LINE OF QUESTIONING.

THAT WAS OBVIOUS.

HE INITIALLY SAID

THAT HE HADN'T SAID THA AT THE DINNER PARTY.

THEN HE HEDGED

THAT A BIT.

"WELL, YOU KNOW,

I MIGHT HAVE BEEN DRINKING."

THAT KIND OF THING.

HE WAS EXTREMELY UPSE AND JUST SAID,

"DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO."

Radio host:

I know you've addressed

this question

once or twice before--

the whisper campaign

by your opponents

about whether

or not you're g*y.

Now I don't care

whether you are or not--

( Crist speaking )

Host:

It's fine.

Norman:

AND THEN I GO ANOTHER PHONE CALL.

IT WAS FROM ANOTHER FRIEND

OF JASON WETHERINGTON'S.

Source #2:

THERE WAS A DINNER PARTY

THAT WAS HELD AT MY HOME

AND JASON WAS AT THE PARTY.

HE BEGAN TO ALLUDE

THAT THERE WAS A RELATIONSHIP

BETWEEN CRIST AND HIM

AND THAT IT WAS PHYSICAL.

NOW I'VE GOT TWO SOURCES

WHO ARE SAYING

THE EXACT SAME THING

WHO DON'T KNOW

EACH OTHER.

IT WAS REVEALED

THAT NIGH THAT HE-- THAT CRIS DID HAVE A PARTNER

OR THERE WAS ANOTHER MAN

IN HIS LIFE.

IT WAS BRUCE

CARLTON JORDAN.

HE WAS FRIENDS

WITH JAY VASS,

A VETERAN

REPUBLICAN PILO AND JAY VASS'S GIRLFRIEND

DEE DEE HALL.

Woman:

...the sworn statement

you give

will be the truth,

the whole truth

- and nothing but the truth,

so help you God?

- Yes.

Man:

Do you know a gentleman

by the name of Bruce Jordan?

Yes, I do.

Did he tell you

that he was g*y?

Yes. He brought up

the fact

that he was

in a relationship...

that he was involved

with Charlie.

I was like, "Okay."

He just stated his first name.

And he said,

"Maybe you've heard of him."

He said, "It's Charlie Crist."

Norman:

I CONTACTED CHARLIE

ON THE PHONE

AND ASKED HIM DIRECTLY

ABOUT JASON WETHERINGTON

AND, UH...

AND BRUCE CARLTON JORDAN.

CHARLIE VERY SMOOTHLY

DENIED THAT HE KNEW

OR REMEMBERED KNOWING

EITHER ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.

The Governor-elect

of the State of Florida--

Charlie Crist!

( audience cheering )

Reporter:

Nearly 4,000 children are

waiting to be adopted

in Florida, but the state is

still turning away couples

looking to adopt.

Why?

Because they're g*y.

Frank Gill is a g*y

foster parent

who wants

to make it permanent.

Gill and his partner

have been foster parents

for four years

to these two boys,

now four and eight

years old.

They were neglected

and abandoned by their

birth parents.

Florida's the only state

in the country that

bans g*y adoption.

Governor Charlie Crist has

supported the prohibition

on g*y adoption

and tells "The Herald" he has

"no second thoughts" on that.

WELCOME BACK.

I'M MICHELANGELO SIGNORILE

ON SIRIUS OUTQ 109.

MIKE ROGERS,

THE MOST FEARED MAN

ON CAPITOL HILL

ACCORDING TO

"THE WASHINGTON POST,"

IS NOW HERE IN THE STUDIO.

HE IS THE MAN WHO GO THE BALL ROLLING

ON LARRY CRAIG

THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO.

- WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

- I HEARD YOU'RE g*y.

- ( all laugh )

- ARE YOU GONNA OUT ME NOW?

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

THIS IS ALWAYS A QUESTION

THAT PEOPLE PUT OUT THERE:

ARE YOU ONLY FOCUSED

ON REPUBLICANS

OR ARE THERE CLOSETED

DEMOCRATS DOING DAMAGE

AND HOW COME THEY'RE

NOT BEING EXPOSED?

WHAT I TELL FOLKS

IS THE REASON THAT 90%

OF THE CASES OR SO

ARE REPUBLICANS

SAYS A LOT MORE

ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

THAN IT DOES MY WORK.

AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING

IS IT'S THE CLOSET.

IT'S NOT h*m*.

IT'S THE CLOSET THA BREEDS THAT KIND OF--

- AND THE CLOSET OF HYPOCRISY.

- ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT HAS GIVEN A LO OF CREDIBILITY TO THE WORK

YOU BEGAN A DECADE AGO.

Signorile:

I WENT TO JOURNALISM SCHOOL,

LEFT, THOUGHT I WAS

GONNA GET THIS GREA SERIOUS NEWS JOB,

AND WOUND UP WORKING

FOR A P.R. FIRM

THAT SPECIALIZED

IN GOSSIP.

AND IT WAS IN THAT WORLD,

IN THE '80s,

THAT I SAW HOW

THE GOSSIP WORLD

WOULD GLAMORIZE

HETEROSEXUALITY,

BUT ANYTHING ABOU ANY CELEBRITY

WHO WAS SECRETLY g*y,

WE WOULD HELP THEM COVER.

IT WAS THE ONE AREA WHERE

THEY DIDN'T DEMAND THE TRUTH.

EVERYWHERE ELSE, THEY WANTED

TO KNOW WHO WAS DATING WHO,

BUT WHEN IT CAME

TO g*y CELEBRITIES,

IT WAS ACCEPTED AND UNDERSTOOD

THAT YOU COVERED FOR THEM

AND YOU ACTUALLY

PUT OUT LIES.

I STARTED TO WRITE A COLUMN

CALLED "GOSSIP WATCH."

IT WAS A WATCH

OF THE GOSSIP COLUMNS.

IT WAS A LOOK AT HOW

THE GOSSIP COLUMNS,

WHICH ARE READ

BY MORE PEOPLE

THAN ANY OTHER FORUM

IN THE MEDIA,

ARE COMPLETELY

CONSTRUCTED AND CREATED

TO GLAMORIZE

HETEROSEXUALITY

AND KEEP h*m*

INVISIBLE.

IN 1990 MALCOLM FORBES,

THE MULTIMILLIONAIRE PUBLISHER

OF "FORBES" MAGAZINE,

DIED AND THE MEDIA

IMMEDIATELY,

IN ALL OF HIS

OBITUARIES,

HELD HIM UP AS

A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAPITALIS WHO WAS DATING

ELIZABETH TAYLOR FOR YEARS.

AND YET, THEY LEFT OU THE FACT THAT HE WAS g*y.

IT TOOK YEARS,

IN FACT,

FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

TO FINALLY SAY THA MALCOLM FORBES WAS g*y.

I FELT THA THE HISTORICAL RECORD

HAD TO BE CORRECTED

IMMEDIATELY.

Correspondent:

Michelangelo Signorile

is his name.

He's the one who outed

Malcolm Forbes after

his death,

writing that Forbes,

the very symbol of

establishment capitalism,

secretly was g*y.

I'm certainly not doing

anything wrong. I think

in 20 years from now,

we're gonna look back

and say, "What the hell was

the big deal about?"

WELCOME BACK.

11 MINUTES BEFORE THE HOUR,

I'M MICHELANGELO SIGNORILE.

I'M HERE WITH MIKE ROGERS

IN STUDIO AND WE'RE

TAKING YOUR CALLS.

YOU'RE ON "THE MICHELANGELO

SIGNORILE SHOW."

Man on phone:

What happens when

you guys expose

all of the closeted people

in the conservative movement?

You get all

the hypocrites out of there,

what have you got left

but just

the solid non-hypocritical

festival of hate?

IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

MIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

THANKS FOR THAT, GREG.

IN MOST CASES WHEN SOMEBODY

IS REPORTED ON, THEY BECOME

A PRO-g*y LEGISLATOR.

BUT "IS THERE A BACKLASH?"

WHICH IS WHAT HE'S ASKING.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LEAVE

JUST THIS CORE OF HATE?

WELL, BARNEY FRANK

PUTS IT BEST:

"THE REASON PEOPLE HATE

g*y PEOPLE IS BECAUSE THEIR

LEADERS TELL THEM TO."

I THINK THAT EACH ONE

OF THESE OUTINGS

PUTS A LITTLE ch*nk

IN THE ARMOR

OF THE ANTI-g*y SO-CALLED

"FAMILY VALUES" MOVEMENT.

I, RONALD REAGAN,

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR...

"THAT I WILL

FAITHFULLY EXECUTE

THE OFFICE OF PRESIDEN OF THE UNITED STATES."

...THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY

EXECUTE THE OFFICE

OF PRESIDEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

Larry Gross:

THE ELECTION OF

RONALD REAGAN BROUGHT US

A FAIRLY LARGE NUMBER

OF HIGH-PLACED

BUT CLOSETED g*y MEN

IN THE REPUBLICAN

ADMINISTRATION

WHO FAILED

TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS

THE EPIDEMIC OF A*DS.

THE PRESIDEN OF THE UNITED STATES

WOULD NOT EVEN SAY

THE WORD "A*DS" PUBLICALLY

AS LATE AS 1987.

Rodger McFarlane:

REAGAN HAD BEEN ELECTED

ON THIS FUNDAMENTALIS CONSERVATIVE ROLE IN AMERICA

LED BY THE NATIONAL

CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL

ACTION COMMITTEE.

THE PRESIDENT OF NCPAC

WAS TERRY DOLAN!

TERRY IS DANCING AT FLAMINGO

ON THE WEEKEND IN NEW YORK

AND PROPPING UP

THE MOST RIGHT-WING h*m*

IN AMERICA BY DAY.

Larry Kramer:

THIS IS A MAN WHO'S

RAISING MONEY

TO k*ll US--

TERRY DOLAN.

I WENT TO A c*ck PARTY

IN WASHINGTON AND THERE HE WAS.

I THREW A DRINK

IN HIS FACE.

I SAID, "HOW DARE YOU COME

TO A PARTY OF g*y PEOPLE

AFTER WHAT YOU'RE

DOING TO US?!"

McFarlane:

RICHARD KRAUSE--

THE HEAD OF THE N.I.H.,

IN CHARGE OF ALL THE INFECTIOUS

DISEASES AT THE TIME

OF ADVENT OF A*DS,

WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING

THAT WAS REQUIRED

BY THE SITUATION,

ANYTHING HEROIC,

SIMPLY BECAUSE

HE WAS AFRAID HE'D SPEND

HIS ENTIRE CAREER

TRYING NOT TO BE

IDENTIFIED WITH US.

EVERYONE KNOWS RICHARD IS g*y.

HE'S GOT PICTURES OF BOYFRIENDS

ON HIS DRESSER AT HOME.

SO THAT CLOSET CAN k*ll

OTHER PEOPLE AND IT HAS.

BEFORE A*DS,

WE WERE CONCERNED

WITH PRIVACY.

AFTER A*DS,

THAT WAS COLLUSION

WITH GENOCIDE--

BEING SILENT,

BEING INVISIBLE--

PARTICULARLY IN AN ELECTED

OR APPOINTED OFFICIAL,

PARTICULARLY

IN AN ELECTED

OR APPOINTED OFFICIAL

WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY

IT IS TO RESPOND TO THIS

PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS--

AND THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE

THEY WERE CLOSETED GAYS.

( applause )

( musical number playing )

COME ON ALONG

AND LISTEN TO

THE LULLABY

OF BROADWAY.

McFarlane:

ED KOCH WAS MAYOR

OF NEW YORK CITY

AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO LIF A HAND TO HELP g*y PEOPLE.

HE WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING

THAT WAS REQUIRED

BY THE SITUATION.

f*ck YOU.

SAN FRANCISCO'S A*DS

ORGANIZATION

WAS GETTING MONEY FROM

THEIR MAYOR IN HUGE AMOUNTS.

WE WEREN'T GETTING ANYTHING.

AND IT PISSED ME OFF

MORE AND MORE AND MORE

BECAUSE WE ALL KNEW

HE WAS g*y.

Wayne Barrett:

NOW ED KOCH HAD ALWAYS

CONSISTENTLY IN HIS PUBLIC LIFE

REFUSED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

ABOUT HIS SEXUALITY.

David Rothenberg:

WHEN ED'S THIRD OR FOURTH

TERM WAS COMING UP

I WAS ASKED THEN

BY PRESS PEOPLE

TO ACKNOWLEDGE

THAT RICHARD NATHAN

WAS ED'S FORMER LOVER.

AND SO I STONEWALLED THE PRESS

DURING THAT PRIMARY RACE

'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE

THE VOICE THAT OUTED

A CANDIDATE.

ABOUT '74 OR '75,

WHEN HE WAS IN CONGRESS,

ED KOCH WAS PLANNING

TO RUN FOR MAYOR

AND HE STARTED HAVING

SUNDAY-NIGHT POTLUCK SUPPERS

AT HIS APARTMEN IN THE VILLAGE.

ONE NIGHT, RICHARD AND I

WERE AT ED'S HOUSE

AND AS WE WERE DEPARTING,

ED SAID, "OH, RICHARD, STAY."

AND RICHARD SAID,

"NO, ED.I HAVE TO GO.

I'LL CALL YOU LATER."

SO AS WE WERE WALKING ACROSS

WASHINGTON SQUARE PARK,

I SAID, "WHAT WAS

THAT ALL ABOUT?

YOU AND THE CONGRESSMAN?"

AND HE SAID, "WE'RE HAVING

A RELATIONSHIP."

AND I SAID, "YOU MEAN,

LIKE A 'RELATIONSHIP'?"

AND HE SAID, "YEAH."

AND I SAID, "WHY?

YOU'RE A NICE-LOOKING

YOUNG MAN.

HE'S AN OLD AND NOT TERRIBLY

ATTRACTIVE MAN."

AND HE SAID,

"IT'S A REAL APHRODISIAC

WHEN YOU GET A CALL

FROM CONGRESS SAYING,

'I'M COMING IN. LET'S HAVE

DINNER FRIDAY NIGHT.'"

THE DAY ED KOCH

WAS INAUGURATED,

THERE WAS A PRIVATE PARTY.

WE WATCHED ED

COME IN WITH BESS,

CLUTCHING

THEIR PINKIES.

AND RICHARD SAID,

"I'M OUT OF HERE.

IT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR TO ME

THAT I HAVE TO LEAVE TOWN,

OR AT LEAS NOT BE IN THE PICTURE,

SO I'VE DECIDED TO MOVE

TO CALIFORNIA."

ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO

AFTER I GOT TO KNOW d*ck,

HE SAID HE HAD SOMETHING

HE WANTED ME TO KNOW.

OVER THE COURSE

OF A COUPLE OF YEARS,

HE HAD BEEN LOVERS

OF ED KOCH

AND AFTER THEY BROKE UP,

ED HAD MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE

FOR HIM TO WORK IN NEW YORK.

NO INSTANCE

OF h*m*

HURT HIM MORE

THAN THE TREATMENT BY THE MAN

HE WAS IN LOVE WITH.

Kramer:

I WAS AT A FUNDRAISING EVEN IN LOS ANGELES IN '81.

A MAN CAME UP TO ME

AND SAID, "I'M d*ck NATHAN."

THEN HE PROCEEDED TO TELL ME

ABOUT HIS AFFAIR WITH ED KOCH

AND WHAT A PIG HE WAS,

AND THAT HE WAS PREPARED FINALLY

TO COME AND ANNOUNCE PUBLICALLY

THAT ED KOCH WAS g*y,

WHICH WAS WHAT WE NEEDED.

HE CAME TO NEW YORK.

AND, OH BOY,

WE WERE BESIDE OURSELVES.

AND d*ck NATHAN CAME

AND SAID, "I'M SORRY,

I CAN'T DO IT."

d*ck WAS WORRIED

ABOUT HIS SAFETY.

AND d*ck DID FEEL

THAT IF HE WENT PUBLIC,

HE WOULD SUFFER.

d*ck WAS THREATENED,

PHYSICALLY THREATENED,

AND FINANCIALLY.

AND HE CAME AND HE WAS TERRIFIED

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,

LEAVING THE CITY.

Gary Cathey:

I FIRST MET JIM McCRERY

IN THE FALL OF 1975

AT THE SIGMA NU

FRATERNITY HOUSE.

I KNEW FROM THE MOMENT WE ME THAT HE WAS INTERESTED.

AND IT WAS THE NEXT SUMMER

DURING SUMMER SCHOOL

THAT IT BEGAN.

THE MOMENT I SPOKE TO GARY,

I KNEW HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH,

BUT NONETHELESS,

FOR HIS OWN PROTECTION

AND FOR THE PROTECTION

OF THE MAGAZINE,

WE WANTED TO SOURCE I AS THOUGH "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

WAS DOING IT.

SO WE FOUND

SEVERAL PEOPLE

WHO ALSO HAD

SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS

WITH JIM McCRERY

WHO HAD SIGNED

LEGAL AFFIDAVITS.

Man:

JIM IS SEVEN YEARS

MY SENIOR.

HE WOULD JUST APPEAR

AT THE FRATERNITY HOUSE

FROM TIME-- YOU KNOW,

HIS ANNUAL PILGRIMAGE,

SO TO SPEAK, IN THE FALL.

JIM USED

THE FRATERNITY HOUSE

AS HIS g*y BAR.

HE WOULD FIND YOUNG MEN

WHO HE THOUGH HE HAD A GOOD CHANCE

AT HAVING

A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH.

JIM WOULD COME

INTO MY ROOM AT NIGHTTIME,

COME TOUCH ME A LITTLE

INAPPROPRIATELY AT TIMES.

HE WAS MY FIRS SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP,

AS HE WAS A NUMBER

OF MY FRATERNITY BROTHERS.

Bull:

McCRERY WAS AMBITIOUS

TO THE POIN WHERE HE WOULD MAKE

MORAL COMPROMISES.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS

WHEN THAT MORAL COMPROMISING

IS ABOU YOUR OWN IDENTITY?

THE JIM I HAD--

AND EVERYONE HAD

ALWAYS KNOWN

HAD BEEN AN ATHEIST.

HE HAD GIVEN SPEECHES

ABOUT HIS LACK OF BELIEF.

HE WAS A DEMOCRAT,

VERY LIBERAL,

HAD NO PROBLEM

SAYING HIS OPINION

ON THE IMMORALITY

OF THE SODOMY LAWS,

THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEN A GROUP OF BACKERS

CAME TO HIM

AND DECIDED THAT HE WAS GOING

TO BE THEIR CANDIDATE,

HE CHANGED HIS PARTY

AND THEN WENT DOWN

AND JOINED THE CHURCH

THAT HAD THE BIGGEST COLUMNS

FOR HIM TO HAVE

HIS CAMPAIGN PICTURES

TAKEN IN FRONT OF,

AND RAN AS A RIGHT-WING

CHRISTIAN COALITION

CANDIDATE.

HE BECAME A TOTALLY

DIFFERENT PERSON.

I'm Johnette McCrery.

I believe my husband Jim

is the kind of person

we need in Congress today.

He's good-hearted,

but he's not soft-hearted.

He's sensitive

without being foolish.

IN 1992,

JIM CAME TO MY HOUSE,

SPENT THE NIGH AND WE HAD SEX.

WE NEVER DISCUSSED

HIS POLITICAL PLATFORM

OR WHAT HE BELIEVED IN.

WE JUST HAD SEX.

Bottom line,

Jim's a good husband,

a good father

and a good congressman.

He gets my vote.

Would you please give him

yours on election day?

Cathey:

TO BE ABLE TO LIVE

THIS KIND OF A LIE,

THIS HAS GONE ON NOW

FOR 17, 18-- NO, 20!

--20 YEARS.

THAT'S THE MAIN THING THA ATTRACTED ME TO MITT ROMNEY

WAS HIS STRONG SENSE

OF PERSONAL COMMITMEN TO HIS WIFE,

HIS FAMILY,

TO HIS VALUES.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING

HE JUST TALKS ABOUT.

IT'S SOMETHING HE LIVES.

Cathey:

THE CLOSEST THING

TO A TURNING POIN WAS WHEN I WENT TO THE GRAVE

OF A SIGMA NU BROTHER

THAT DIED OF A*DS.

JIM KNEW HIM WELL.

ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS.

STANDING OVER THAT GRAVE,

IT DID A LOT.

IT LET ME KNOW

THAT I HAD TO DO IT.

I HAD TO DO IT.

THERE WAS SOME ATTENTION

IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA,

VERY, VERY LITTLE ON

A LOCAL LEVEL.

THE NON-g*y PRESS SAW I AS SORT OF DISTASTEFUL.

THEY DIDN'T COVER

g*y LIFE AT ALL,

EXCEPT MAYBE THE MOS DRAMATIC ELEMENTS OF IT.

IT WAS GARY

THAT REAPED ALL

THE HAVOC FROM THIS.

HE WAS SHUNNED

BY THE COMMUNITY.

HIS PARENTS RECEIVED

ALL SORTS OF HATE MAIL.

AND JIM--

NOTHING HAPPENED TO JIM.

HE WAS ELEVATED

EVEN HIGHER.

Cathey:

JIM IS RETIRING

FROM A GREA CONGRESSIONAL CAREER--

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS

OF HONORS AND AWARDS.

HOW MANY OF THOSE

WOULD HE HAVE GOTTEN

IF HE HAD BEEN

TRUE TO HIMSELF?

Rogers:

WHAT I FEEL THAT I'M DOING

IN THIS OUTING WORK,

IT'S NOT ABOUT ANYBODY

WHO'S ALIVE TODAY.

IT'S ABOUT TOMORROW'S

GENERATION

AND THE ONE AFTER

AND THE ONE AFTER,

'CAUSE THIS HATE,

THIS VITRIOL,

IT'S GENERATIONAL

FOR THESE ANTI-g*y PEOPLE.

McFarlane:

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

OF THE GOOD ACTIVISTS--

IT IS ALL DRIVEN BY RAGE,

RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION.

PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND DYING

BECAUSE SOME

SELF-PROMOTING as*h*le

IS TELLING A LIE.

ACTIVISM IS ABOUT ANGER.

ACTIVISM

IS ABOUT RESPONDING

TO SOMETHING THAT YOU

KNOW IS WRONG

- AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

- ( elevator dings )

Sure.

We're here for the consideration

of H.J.RES.106

proposing an amendment

to the Constitution of

the United States

relating to marriage

as well as H.R.319...

DREIER'S VOTING

IS A MATTER OF RECORD.

IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION

SOMEWHAT HOSTILE TO GAYS.

AND, IN FACT,

HE IS A FRONTLINE MEMBER

OF A POLITICAL PARTY

WHERE A CONSIDERABLE WING

OF THAT POLITICAL PARTY

IS OPENLY HOSTILE TO GAYS.

Steven Clemons:

DAVID DREIER OFFICIALLY

STILL DENIES BEING g*y,

DESPITE LOTS OF EVIDENCE

TO THE CONTRARY.

YOU COULD HEAR IN THE NEWSROOM,

JUST OCCASIONALLY WHEN

A STORY WOULD COME UP,

THAT DREIER WAS QUOTE--

WHAT I REALIZED BEFORE LONG,

IT WAS CODE WORDS--

"CONFIRMED BACHELOR,"

"CONSERVATIVE BACHELOR,"

"DAPPER BACHELOR."

ONE OF THE BIG TIPS I GOT WAS,

"CHECK OUT THE BOYFRIEND."

I'M LIKE,

"WHO'S THE BOYFRIEND?"

"THE CHIEF OF STAFF."

I'M LIKE, "OHH, THAT'S

INTERESTING."

SO THEN WE INITIATED

A WHOLE INVESTIGATION.

I GO DOWN TO THE CAPITAL

AND I COPY EVERY TRAVEL RECORD

OF BRAD SMITH,

WHO'S THE CHIEF OF STAFF,

AND DAVID DREIER,

WHO'S THE CONGRESSMAN.

THEY SAID, "OH WELL,

HE TRAVELS WITH HIM."

AND I'M LIKE,

"WELL, THESE ARE

DIFFERENT DATES...

ONE DAY APAR ON ALL THE TRIPS."

( camera shutter clicking )

IF THERE WAS A CONGRESSMAN

WHO TRAVELED WITH HIS

CHIEF OF STAFF CONTINUOUSLY

AROUND THE WORLD,

TRAVELING ONE DAY

BEFORE OR ONE DAY AFTER,

THAT WOULD BE

IN THE NEWSPAPER.

BUT BECAUSE HE'S

SLEEPING WITH A MAN,

BECAUSE IT'S TWO DICKS

INSTEAD OF ONE,

THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.

WE'RE NOT ASKING DREIER

WHAT POSITION HE LIKES,

HOW MANY LOVERS HE'S HAD,

WHERE HE LIKES TO GET IT ON.

THESE AREN'T THE QUESTIONS

WE WANT TO PUT TO DREIER.

THE QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD

BE PUT TO DREIER ARE:

"THIS IS YOUR VOTING RECORD.

THIS IS YOUR PARTY'S PLATFORM,

ITS PLANK, ITS POSITIONS,

AND IT SEEMS TO RUN

ABSOLUTELY CONTRADICTORY

TO THE WAY YOU'VE LIVED

YOUR PERSONAL LIFE."

WHEN HE CAME ON MY PROGRAM

DURING THE REPUBLICAN

CONVENTION,

I ASKED HIM STRAIGHT OUT.

There have been a lot

of rumors that you

yourself are g*y.

And people feel it's

hypocritical of you--

- ( Dreier speaking )

- --to not speak up in favor

of same-sex marriage.

Are you saying

you're heterosexual?

A STRAIGHT GUY,

THERE'S NO WAY HE'LL

ANSWER THAT QUESTION

WITH, "I'M NOT REALLY

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT."

HE'S GONNA SAY,

"YEAH, I'M STRAIGHT.

SO WHAT?"

Would you think

it's hypocritical

if a g*y politician

were voting against

g*y people?

YOU KNOW, I HAPPEN

TO LIKE DAVID DREIER'S

POLITICAL AND POLICY WORK

ON MANY FRONTS.

AND HE LOST OU IN BEING THE NEW

REPUBLICAN LEADER

INSIDE A CAUCUS INSIDE

THE REPUBLICAN COMMUNITY

BECAUSE OF THE g*y

IDENTITY ISSUE.

Did you expect

to get the job

( slaps desk )

that Roy Blunt got?

No, this is not something

that I pursued.

I mean, yes, I was

talked to about this.

And frankly, I said no,

that I didn't want to do it.

Now who talked

to you about it?

Is this--

You know, I don't want

to get into that, Charlie.

THE EVANGELICAL CONSERVATIVE

WING OF THE PARTY

CAME IN AND SAID,

"NOT FOR ONE MINUTE.

NOT ON YOUR LIFE.

DAVID DREIER'S A CLOSETED g*y.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR US.

AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN."

I THINK IT WAS

A REAL SAD THING

THAT THE COUNTRY LOS SOMEONE LIKE DAVID DREIER

MOVING INTO REPUBLICAN

LEADERSHIP OVER BEING g*y.

THE ULTIMATE IRONY?

I BELIEVE IF DAVID DREIER

CALLED A PRESS CONFERENCE

TOMORROW AND ANNOUNCED,

"THIS IS MY TRUTH--

30 YEARS IN COMING,

BUT THIS IS MY TRUTH."

I THINK HE'D PROBABLY

BE RE-ELECTED.

IF HE DECIDES

TO EVENTUALLY COME OUT,

HE'LL DO SO WHEN

HE DECIDES TO RETIRE

FROM THE HOUSE.

THAT'S A TRAGEDY.

IT'S MUCH BETTER

TO HAVE SOMEONE

OF DAVID DREIER'S

REALLY BRILLIAN LEGISLATIVE SKILL

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

FINALLY COMING OUT OF HIS

OWN VOLITION.

SO IS THERE AN EFFORT?

PROBABLY.

HAS HE MOVED?

NO.

Alexander Robinson:

l*sbian AND g*y ISSUES

ARE UNDER-REPORTED

AND UNDER-COVERED IN THE MEDIA

SOMETIMES BECAUSE

OUR ALLIES IN THE MEDIA

ARE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE

TO NOT OUT SOMEBODY.

ALL OF MY STRAIGH FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA

HANDLE THIS ISSUE BADLY,

UM, BECAUSE I THINK

IT'S DISCOMFITING.

THEY DON'T KNOW

WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

Right after the break,

we're gonna interview

Erik Weihenmayer

who climbed the highest mountain

in the world, Mount Everest.

But he's g*y!

I mean, he's g*y--

excuse me. He's blind.

So we'll hear

about that coming up.

PEOPLE WILL WRITE

ABOUT MY RELIGION.

THEY WILL WRITE ABOUT MY HEIGHT,

WRITE ABOUT MY SCHOOLING.

THEY WILL WRITE ABOU A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS.

IF THEY WON'T WRITE

ABOUT MY SEXUALITY,

THEY'RE IN EFFECT SAYING,

"THE POOR SO-AND-SO.

THAT IS SUCH A TERRIBLE FAC WE HAVE TO KEEP IT SECRET."

JOURNALISTS ARE IN THE BUSINESS

OF TELLING THE TRUTH.

THEY SHOULD BE CONSTANTLY

REEVALUATING WHAT THEY'RE DOING

AND LOOKING AT WHY

THEY TREAT h*m*

AND HETEROSEXUALITY DIFFERENTLY.

MY FAMILY JOKES THAT WHEN

THEY WATCH THE NEWS WITH ME

LIKE, "THAT REPORTER'S g*y."

IT PERMEATES THE MEDIA HERE.

ALL THE REPORTERS ARE g*y.

YOU KNOW?

CNN AND FOX, THE SAME ONES

WHO ARE COVERING THE STORY,

THEY'RE PART OF

THE WASHINGTON CULTURE TOO.

SO FOR THEM TO BE AMBITIOUS,

THEY DON'T TALK ABOU THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION

AND HAVEN'T FOR YEARS.

Announcer:

Live from New York,

this is "The Fox Report"

with Shepard Smith.

J-Lo's new song

"Jenny from the Block,"

all about Lopez's roots,

about how she's still

a neighborhood gal at heart.

But folks from

the Bronx section

sound more likely

to give her a curb job

than a blowjob--

or block party.

I'm sorry about

that slip up there.

I have no idea

how that happened,

but it won't happen again.

I WAS AT A BAR IN NEW YORK,

A g*y PIANO BAR

ON THE UPPER EAST SIDE

CALLED "BRANDY'S."

WE SAT DOWN

NEXT TO THIS GUY

AND IT WAS SHEPARD SMITH

FROM FOX NEWS.

HE STARTED

CHATTING ME UP

AND BUYING ME DRINKS.

AND, UH, HE ASKED ME

IF I'D COME BACK TO

HIS APARTMENT...

( chuckles )

AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING.

A YEAR WENT BY AND HE STARTED

GETTING A LOT OF EXPOSURE

AS THE NEW RISING STAR

OF CABLE TV NEWS.

HE WAS GRANTING

INTERVIEWS TO REPORTERS

AND BEING PROFILED

IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

AND WAS BEING MORE THAN COY

ABOUT HIS SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

BECAUSE IT WAS ASKED,

AND HE WAS EITHER LYING

OR DODGING THE QUESTION.

IT WAS AT THAT POIN THAT I SAID, "OKAY,

TIME TO COME OUT."

I THINK I TO THIS DAY REMAINS

THE MOST POPULAR COLUMN

THAT I'VE EVER WRITTEN.

EVERYONE LOVES

A GOOD OUTING.

Tom Sheridan:

THIS TOWN IS FULL

OF g*y PEOPLE.

I REMEMBER WHEN

I FIRST MOVED HERE

THINKING HOW g*y IT WAS.

SOMETIMES I THINK

WASHINGTON'S MORE g*y

THAN SAN FRANCISCO IS.

Birch:

CAPITOL HILL IS PACKED

WITH g*y STAFFERS.

THERE ARE SO MANY

OF THEM.

YOU CAN'T SWING

A DEAD CA WITHOUT HITTING

A g*y STAFFER.

Jose Antonio Vargas:

THERE'S A RUNNING JOKE

THAT g*y MEN MAKE

CAPITOL HILL RUN ON TIME.

THEY DON'T HAVE A WIFE

OR CHILDREN TO GO HOME TO,

SO THEY CAN WORK

REALLY LONG HOURS.

I THINK IF THEY

TRIED TO FIRE g*y STAFF

LIKE THEY DO BOOTING PEOPLE

OUT OF THE MILITARY,

THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS

WOULD SCREECH TO A HALT.

TO THIS DAY, I HAVE NO SEEN ANY PLACE LIKE IT.

SO IT IS PROBABLY

THE MOST g*y PLACE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S PROBABLY

STILL THE MOST CLOSETED PLACE.

THERE ARE SCORES

OF CLOSETED REPUBLICANS

AND DEMOCRATS,

I MIGHT ADD,

WHO JUST BECAUSE

OF THEIR LIFE JOURNEY,

BECAUSE OF THEIR

GENERATIONAL EXPERIENCE,

BECAUSE OF THEIR DESIRE

NOT TO BE VULNERABLE

IN TERMS OF

GETTING RE-ELECTED,

HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY

IN THE CLOSET.

( phone beeps )

YEAH?

Frank:

FROM THE DAY I FIRST GO ELECTED TO PUBLIC OFFICE

IN 1972, I WAS CLOSETED

FOR THE FIRST 15

OF THOSE YEARS.

MY ORIGINAL VIEW

WAS THAT I COULD BE

PUBLICALLY

KIND OF NEUTRAL,

AND PRIVATELY

I COULD LIVE THE LIFE

OF A g*y MAN.

BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE

REASONABLY PROMINENT,

WHAT CAN YOU DO?

YOU CAN'T GO TO BARS

TO MEET PEOPLE.

YOU CAN'T--

( stammers )

YOU CAN'T MEET PEOPLE

WITHOUT OUTING YOURSELF,

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO BE

PUBLIC AND CLOSETED.

THERE WERE LOTS OF RUMORS

THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND.

AND I WAS ALWAYS CONCERNED

ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF THINGS

WOULD COME UP IN A CAMPAIGN

OR WHAT THINGS MIGHT BE SAID.

SO, YOU KNOW,

THERE WAS THAT KIND

OF THING THAT GNAWS AT YOU.

IT'S JUST THERE.

IT'S SITTING ON YOUR SHOULDER

LIKE A LITTLE TWEETY BIRD

SITTING ON YOUR SHOULDER

ABOUT TO CHIRP AT YOU.

AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN

IT'S GOING TO DO THAT.

IF YOU ARE A l*sbian

DEEPLY IN THE CLOSE AND YOU'RE HAVING

A CONVERSATION ABOUT,

YOU KNOW, WHO YOU

SHARE YOUR LIFE WITH,

YOU EITHER HAVE TO LIE

AND SAY "HE"

RATHER THAN "SHE"

IN REFERRING

TO YOUR PARTNER,

BUT ALTERNATIVELY

USING GENDERLESS PRONOUNS.

"WE HAD A GOOD WEEKEND."

AND, YOU KNOW,

JUST SORT OF AVOIDING IT.

AND REALLY, THAT TAKES

A LOT OF ENERGY TO DO

TO MAKE SURE

YOUR STORY'S STRAIGHT,

SO TO SPEAK.

Neil Guiliano:

WHEN YOU'RE LIVING

IN THE CLOSET,

THE FEAR IS THAT SOMEONE'S

GOING TO EXPOSE YOU

FOR THEIR POLITICAL GAIN

TO TAKE YOU DOWN.

AND SO YOU'RE ALWAYS

WONDERING,

"IS THIS THE CONVERSATION?

IS THIS THE PERSON?

IS THIS THE SITUATION?"

WHEN I RAN FOR MAYOR

THE FIRST TIME,

I RECEIVED THREAT LETTERS

AND THREAT PHONE CALLS.

I'VE SAVED THE LETTERS

AND ONE OF THEM SAID,

"WE'RE COMING

TO THE PUBLIC FORUM

AND WE'RE GOING

TO EXPOSE YOU

SO ALL YOUR SUPPORTERS

WILL KNOW

THAT YOU'RE

REALLY A g*y MAN."

FOR ANYONE TO KNOW

THAT YOU'RE g*y,

TO BE THE g*y "ANYTHING,"

WOULD BE THE WORST THING

IN THE WORLD TO HAPPEN TO YOU.

YOU COULD LOSE YOUR FAMILY.

YOU COULD LOSE YOUR JOB.

YOU COULD LOSE YOUR POWER

OR POLITICAL POSITION.

YOU COULD LOSE YOUR SEA IN CONGRESS.

I'VE HAD MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

CRYING IN MY ARMS

BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW

HOW TO COME OUT.

WHEN YOU TRY

TO COMPARTMENTALIZE

ALL THESE PARTS

OF YOUR LIFE

AND IF YOU TRY TO SHOVE YOUR

SEXUAL ORIENTATION INTO A BOX

AND KEEP IT FROM

YOUR CONSTITUENTS,

IT HAS VERY DEADLY

CONSEQUENCES.

McGreevy:

Good afternoon.

Throughout my life,

I have grappled

with my own identity--

who I am.

As a young child,

I often felt ambivalent

about myself,

in fact, confused.

From the first words out

of his mouth this afternoon,

it was clear Jim McGreevy,

the governor of New Jersey,

was making

very big news indeed.

At a point

in every person's life,

one has to look deeply

into the mirror of one's soul

and decide

one's unique truth.

And beyond the facts

and allegations and anguish

immediately

surrounding his story,

what the governor

said today

also becomes part

of a larger story

at a turning point

for the country.

And so my truth is that

I am a g*y American.

Anchor:

Another boundary

of American politics

has been crossed today.

With his wife by his side,

the governor announced

that he is g*y,

that he had an affair

with a man, and that he

would resign.

His announcement

makes him the highest-ranking

American politician...

McGreevey:

I BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND

THAT EVEN IN GRAMMAR SCHOOL

THAT SOMEHOW I WAS

PROFOUNDLY DIFFERENT.

NO ONE COMES UP TO YOU

AND TELLS YOU THA YOU'RE AFRICAN-AMERICAN,

OR JEWISH-AMERICAN

OR IRISH-AMERICAN.

YOU DISCOVER YOU'RE g*y

BY YOURSELF.

AND I WAS GOING

TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY

AND LOOKING FOR

"WHAT IS h*m*?

WHAT ARE ITS ORIGINS?"

AND HOW IT'S DESCRIBED.

IT WAS ALL HORRIFIC.

IT WAS ALL APOCALYPTIC.

IT WAS A CURSE.

I ACCEPTED ALL THOSE

MESSAGES OF SHAME

AND MESSAGES OF HATE,

MESSAGES OF IGNORANCE.

BUT YOU REALIZE

IT'S INTRINSIC.

IT'S WHO

AND WHAT YOU ARE.

AND SO YOU DENY

THIS THING,

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS

IT COMES OUT.

AND IT COMES OU IN DARK PLACES.

YOU BEGIN TO BELIEVE

THAT IT IS SHAMEFUL

BECAUSE YOU WERE ACTING,

FOR ME, IN SHAMEFUL WAYS.

I MEAN,

WHERE AM I HAVING SEX?

I'M HAVING SEX IN BACK ALLEYS

OF ABANDONED SYNAGOGUES.

I'M HAVING SEX

IN REST STOPS.

THE FACT IS

MY STRAIGHT FRIENDS

WERE PICKING UP

THEIR GIRLFRIENDS

IN BARS AND AT PARTIES

AND DOING IT WHEREVER.

I DIDN'T HAVE

THAT OPPORTUNITY

TO DO IT IN PUBLIC WAYS

THAT WERE HEALTHY,

THAT WERE SAFE

AND THAT WERE ACCEPTED.

AND SO BY DOING I IN SECRET CLOSETED WAYS,

I BELIEVE IT IS UNHEALTHY

FOR THE PSYCHOLOGY,

IT IS UNHEALTHY

FOR THE BEING

AND IT WAS UNHEALTHY

FOR MY SOUL.

Dave Karsnia over tape:

All right, so let's start

from the beginning.

- You went in the bathroom.

- Craig: I went in the bathroom.

I got in a stall,

sat down

and I started to go

to the bathroom.

Did our feet come together?

Apparently, they did bump.

Let me be clear:

I am not g*y.

I never have been g*y.

HE DOESN'T THINK HE'S g*y.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

HE'S NOT g*y.

MAYBE HE'S h*m*

OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.

NOT "g*y" AS IN IDENTIFIED

POLITICALLY WITH OUR TRIBE.

WHO KNOWS IF LARRY CRAIG

IS g*y OR NOT?

BUT WHATEVER HE IS,

IT'S POSSIBLE THA HE'S ACTUALLY PART OF US.

WE DON'T WANT HIM,

BUT IT'S POSSIBLE

HE'S ACTUALLY PAR OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THERE ARE A LO OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY

IN HIS GENERATION--

AND IT'S STILL POSSIBLE

IN YOUNGER GENERATIONS--

FOR PEOPLE TO BE

SO TERRIFIED INTERNALLY

OF THEIR OWN

SEXUAL ORIENTATION

THAT THEY LITERALLY JUS SUPPRESS IT TO SUCH AN EXTENT,

THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE

IT WHILE ACTING AS IT.

Interviewer:

ARE YOU TECHNICALLY

NOT A h*m*?

IS IT POSSIBLE

YOU'RE BISEXUAL?

IT'S NO TO BOTH.

THE OTHER QUESTION

IS DO YOU THINK

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING

THAT WOULD BE AWFUL?

IN OTHER WORDS,

DO YOU VIEW IT AS SOMETHING

THAT WOULD BE AWFUL

TO HAVE TO ADMI THAT YOU WERE g*y?

I DON'T AGREE

WITH THE LIFESTYLE.

AND I'VE SAID SO

BY MY VOTES OVER THE YEARS.

Matthew Weissman:

I THINK THAT FOR A LO OF g*y PEOPLE

WHO MAY HARBOR SOME

VERY, VERY DEEP

INTERNALIZED h*m*,

ONE OF THE WAYS

THAT THEY FEEL BETTER

ABOUT THEMSELVES

IS BY ALIGNING THEMSELVES

WITH THE FORCES

THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY WAN TO DO HARM TO THEM.

Signorile:

AS A TEENAGER,

I WAS LABELED A f*g.

AND WHAT I WOULD DO

IN ORDER TO BATTLE THA AND FIGHT THA WAS I WOULD JOIN UP

WITH THE OTHER GUYS

WHO WOULD BASH

OTHER g*y BOYS

TO PROVE THA "HEY, I'M NOT A f*g.

I'LL EVEN BEAT UP ONE."

AND THAT, GOING BACK,

IS REALLY WHAT WE SEE TODAY

IN SO MANY PEOPLE

WHO ARE IN CONGRESS

VOTING AGAINST g*y PEOPLE.

IT'S THE SAME THING

I WAS DOING AS A TEENAGER.

THEY ARE BASHING

OTHER g*y PEOPLE

IN ORDER TO PROVE

THAT THEY'RE NOT g*y.

I'VE NEVER SEEN

ANYTHING IN HISTORY

THAT-- WHERE DEEPLY ANTI-

OR h*m* ACTIVITIES

HAVEN'T BEEN AT SOME LEVEL

PERPETUATED OR FOSTERED

BY PEOPLE WHO WERE g*y.

LOOK AT McCARTHYISM

AND THE WITCH HUNTS--

LED BY A CLOSETED g*y:

ROY COHN, A TRUE EVIL b*stard.

Gross:

THE TARGET GROUPS

OF WITCH HUNTS

AND PROSECUTION

WERE COMMUNISTS

AND q*eers.

ROY COHN SUPPORTED LOTS

OF REALLY DREADFUL PEOPLE

WHO WERE COMPLETELY

h*m*,

AND IN SOME WAYS

WAS HIMSELF h*m*.

HE HAD A LO OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS

ABOUT OUT g*y PEOPLE.

ROY COHN IS NOT A h*m*.

ROY COHN IS

A HETEROSEXUAL MAN, HENRY,

WHO f*ck AROUND WITH GUYS.

I HAD TO TAKE

MY BEST SHO AT TRYING TO FIGURE OU HOW THAT COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

IS NAVIGATED

INSIDE OF SOMEBODY.

AND I FEEL LIKE I DID

A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT.

I MEAN, THE SCENE

THAT EVERYBODY LOVES BEST IS

WHEN HE'S DIAGNOSED WITH A*DS

AND HE SAYS TO HIS DOCTOR,

"I'M NOT A g*y MAN."

NOW TO SOMEONE WHO

DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS,

h*m* IS WHAT I AM

BECAUSE I HAVE SEX WITH MEN,

BUT REALLY THIS IS WRONG.

h*m* ARE NOT MEN

WHO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN.

h*m* ARE MEN

WHO IN 15 YEARS OF TRYING

CANNOT PASS A PISSAN ANTIDISCRIMINATION BILL

THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

h*m* ARE MEN

WHO KNOW NOBODY

AND WHO NOBODY KNOWS,

WHO HAVE ZERO CLOUT.

THAT RATIONALE GOES

SOMETHING LIKE THIS--

IT TOOK ME AWHILE

TO FIGURE IT OUT--

BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE,

"RICH, YOU ARE A WEAK g*y

BECAUSE YOU CAME OUT.

I AM A STRONGER PERSON

BECAUSE I REMAIN

NOT PART OF A g*y

LIBERAL COMMUNITY.

I AM STILL

A CONSERVATIVE.

I AM EVERYTHING I WANT.

I DON'T PUSH MY AGENDA

ON ANYONE.

STRAIGHTS DON'T PUSH

THEIR SEXUAL LIVES.

WHY SHOULD WE?"

AND IT'S VERY--

I'VE HEARD THIS

A MILLION TIMES,

AND IT'S VERY WARPED.

BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE,

"YOU COULDN'T HAVE THE STAMINA

TO STAY IN THE CLOSET."

THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL.

IT'S LIKE A BROADWAY SHOW.

POLITICS IS LIKE

A BROADWAY SHOW TO THEM

IN THAT EVERYTHING IS STAGED,

EVERYTHING IS PLANNED,

EVERY WORD THAT COMES OU OF SOMEBODY'S MOUTH

IS SCRIPTED.

Today is a special day

in my life.

It's not just

Valentine's Day.

It happens to be

the anniversary of

the first date

I had with my wife

Suzanne.

Am I a romantic?

Well, maybe just a little bit.

Reporter:

Even after the Craigs

got married

and he adopted

her three children

from a previous marriage,

the rumors about

her husband persisted.

THEY WERE SAYING

THAT IT WAS A MARRIAGE

OF CONVENIENCE.

TO COVER

A g*y LIFESTYLE?

OH, GIVE ME A BREAK.

McFarlane:

I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE

TO SAY IN PUBLIC

AND I ACTUALLY

KIND OF ADMIRE 'EM

FOR BEING ABLE TO GIVE

THAT PERFORMANCE.

I'M SURE I COULDN'T.

UH, BUT THAT'S

SOME WEIRD sh*t.

PEOPLE KNOW ME

AND KNOW THAT I

WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

THAT'S ALMOS LIKE SELLING YOUR SOUL

FOR SOMETHING.NO!

Catania:

WHERE DO YOU FIND

THE SPOUSES

OF THESE PEOPLE

WHO STICK WITH THEM?

I MEAN, THAT IS SO BIZARRE.

HOW DO YOU STAND NEX TO YOUR HUSBAND

AFTER HE'S BEEN

IN A STALL?

I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE

BEEN GOING TO--

I'D HAVE HEADED TO A SHOWER

FOR A "SILKWOOD" SCRUBDOWN

OR CERTAINLY

TO AN STD CLINIC.

I WOULDN'T BE

AT THE WHISTLE-STOP CAFE

STANDING BY HIM.

IS SHE INSANE?

WHAT INTERESTS ME MORE

AND I THINK WHAT IS MORE COMMON

ARE THESE STRAIGHT WOMEN

WHO ARE MARRIED

TO CLOSETED g*y MEN

WHO DON'T KNOW.

I engaged in an adult

consensual affair

with another man

which violates

my bonds of matrimony.

I DATED JIM FOR FOUR YEARS

BEFORE WE WERE MARRIED,

SO I THOUGHT I KNEW HIM.

PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY,

"OH, THERE HAD TO BE SIGNS."

I HAD TO KNOW THIS WAS

AN ARRANGED MARRIAGE.

OUR SEX LIFE,

OUR RELATIONSHIP--

THERE WAS NOTHING--

OUR INTIMACY--

THERE WAS NOTHING TO INDICATE

THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

I HAD NEVER

BEEN MARRIED BEFORE

SO I COULDN'T COMPARE I TO ANOTHER MARRIAGE.

BUT FROM TALKING

TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY,

IT WAS A NORMAL

RELATIONSHIP.

James McGreevy:

IF YOU'RE KEEPING

A DOUBLE LEDGER

FROM THE SECOND

OF YOUR MORNING BREATH

TO THE TIME

YOU GO TO BED AT NIGHT,

IT'S LIKE A BAD

"STAR TREK" EPISODE--

YOU HAVE TO DISCERN

WHICH FOO IS IN WHICH UNIVERSE

AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

YOU'RE PLAYING

IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE,

BUT IT'S NOT INTEGRATED,

IT'S NOT HONEST,

IT'S NOT WHOLESOME

AND IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT.

Dina McGreevy:

NONE OF THAT WAS REAL.

NONE OF THOSE FEELINGS

OF THOSE EMOTIONS

WERE REAL

FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.

IT WAS ALL AN ACT.

WHAT PART OF MY LIFE

AND MY MARRIAGE WAS REAL?

WAS THAT TRIP REAL?

WAS THAT VACATION REAL?

WHAT ABOUT I WAS AUTHENTIC?

IF YOUR HUSBAND LEAVES YOU

FOR ANOTHER WOMAN

OR IF YOUR WIFE LEAVES YOU

FOR ANOTHER MAN,

AT SOME POINT YOU HAD

FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER

SO AT SOME POIN THERE WAS LOVE.

IN MY CASE, I DON'T THINK

HE EVER FELT THAT FOR ME.

James McGreevy:

THERE WERE MOMENTS OF PASSION,

BUT AT THAT POINT,

I WASN'T READY TO ACCEP EVEN WHO AND WHAT I AM.

SO TO BE TOTALLY

OPEN WITH HER,

I WOULD HAVE HAD

TO ACCEPT MYSELF

AND THEN SHARE I WITH SOMEBODY I LOVED.

TO A CERTAIN POIN THEY ARE THE VICTIM,

BUT THEY MADE

THEIR OWN CHOICES

ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GONNA

LIVE THEIR LIVES.

God the Father,

God the Son,

God the Holy Spirit,

bless, preserve and keep you.

Dina McGreevy:

WHEN I THINK, IT HAD

TO BE t*rture

FOR HIM TO GO THROUGH LIFE

TRYING TO LIVE AS SOMEONE

HE CLEARLY WASN' COMFORTABLE BEING...

( all applauding )

...BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE

TO DESTROY MY LIFE

OR MY DAUGHTER'S LIFE

OR ANYBODY ELSE'S LIFE.

It was wrong.

It was foolish.

It was inexcusable.

And for this,

I ask the forgiveness

and the grace of my wife.

She has been extraordinary

throughout this ordeal...

Crist:

I'VE BEEN PRIVILEGED

TO SERVE PEOPLE

OF THIS GREAT STATE

WE CALL FLORIDA.

SHE IS THE STATE

WITH THE PRETTIEST NAME

- AND I LOVE HER.

- ( applause )

Testing testing,

one two three.

Reporter:

At first glance,

Kelly Crosby Heyniger

seems like a typical

suburban mom,

but what makes her unique

is the company she keeps.

Heyniger:

He's a great guy,

a lot of fun.

He's real.

He wants to make

a difference.

Reporter:

"He" is Florida Governor

Charlie Crist.

Kelly was set up on a date

with him for a charity event

on Jupiter Island

several months ago.

James McGreevy:

YOU'D ACTUALLY WANT RUMORS.

I MEAN, I'D GO TO GO-GO BARS

WITH MY BUDDIES.

MY g*y FRIENDS

SAID AFTERWARDS,

"WHAT DID YOU DO

FOR THOSE HOURS?"

Heyniger:

We have a good relationship.

I enjoy his company

and I think

he enjoys mine too,

but I don't like

to project.

I WOULD SOR OF PARSE WORDS WHEN PEOPLE

WOULD CONFRONT ME,

"OH, I HEAR RUMORS

THAT YOU'RE g*y."

I'M LIKE,

"OH, THAT'S CRAZY."

"YOU'RE A h*m*?"

"NO, THAT'S ABSURD.

THERE'S RUMORS ABOU EVERYBODY IN POLITICS."

SO YOU'D BE DISMISSIVE.

Interviewer:

Charlie, let me ask you this:

- Are you a h*m*?

- ( Crist speaking )

Okay, I didn't think so.

I can attest

because I've seen you

with some great-looking women.

I go... ( babbles )

Reporter:

Rumors that Crist

is g*y have been printed

in alternative newspapers

and online. He denies it.

And Kelly doesn't give that

speculation a second thought.

Do people say stuff

to you about that?

Mm, they do,

but when you put yourself

in front of the public eye,

someone is always gonna have

something negative to say,

whether it be true or not.

Sheridan:

THE CLOSET FOR ME IN

THE CONTEXT OF POWER POLITICS

IS ACTUALLY

QUITE DANGEROUS.

I THINK IT DEEPLY CONVOLUTES

YOUR PERSPECTIVE

ON WHAT'S RIGH AND WHAT'S WRONG.

I THINK IT MAKES YOU

LESS GENUINE.

I THINK PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSETED

AND INVOLVED IN POLITICS

ARE INTERESTED

IN CONTINUALLY COVERING UP

WHO THEY ARE

AND WHAT THEY ARE,

WHICH I THINK DELIVERS

A VERY NEGATIVE PUBLIC POLICY.

Frank:

YOU KNOW, IN 1976,

GERRY FORD AND JIMMY CARTER

WERE ABOUT EVEN ON g*y RIGHTS.

SINCE THEN THE DEMOCRATS

HAVE GOTTEN BETTER

AND THE REPUBLICANS

CAPTURED BY THE RIGHT WING

HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.

McFarlane:

STARTING IN THE EARLY '70s,

JOE COORS

AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE

PAID JUSTICE LEWIS POWELL

BEFORE HE WAS ON THE

SUPREME COUR TO WRITE WHAT WE CALL

"THE POWELL MANIFESTO."

NOW IT'S BASICALLY

A CONCRETE BUSINESS PLAN

ON HOW TO ENSURE

FREE ENTERPRISE IN PERPETUITY.

AND WITH WHAT WE CALL

THE NINE FAMILIES--

THE BRADLEYS, THE SCAIFES,

THE OLINS, THE COORS--

THIS HUGE

MACHINE WAS BUILT:

MEDIA MONITORS

AND JUDICIAL WATCHES

AND ELEGANT LEADERSHIP

DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS

AND THINK TANKS

THAT COME UP WITH ISSUES

THAT WILL PANDER

TO CERTAIN VOTERS.

AND WHAT POPPED UP

FOR THEM

LIKE A GIFT WAS

g*y MARRIAGE.

( "Ode to Joy" playing )

AND THEY WENT, "EUREKA!

THIS IS WHAT WE'LL USE."

Dramatic announcer:

God, as California goes,

so goes the nation.

A confrontation

between light and darkness

will happen this November.

A battle to save

the very sanctity of marriage.

To the victor goes

the soul of the nation!

These gays is going to hell!

This abomination

in the sight of God--

This is what

the h*m* can do.

They don't really care

about how much they destroy.

WE SHOULD NOT LET 2%

OF THE POPULATION

DETERMINE-- TO CHANGE

THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE

THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED

BY EVERY SINGLE CULTURE

AND EVERY SINGLE RELIGION

FOR 5,000 YEARS.

RIGHT NOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

AND THE RELIGIOUS RIGH ARE IN AN UNHOLY

ALLIANCE POLITICALLY.

AND I THINK THEIR

UNHOLY ALLIANCE

HAS BEEN

LARGELY FOCUSED

ON THIS NOTION

OF BEING h*m*.

In America the only

marriage to be recognized

is the marriage between

a man and a woman!

I SAW IT COMING

IN THE FALL OF '03

WITH THE MASSACHUSETTS

COURT RULING

WITH A CLOSE ELECTION.

I SAW IT COMING.

I REMEMBER THE DAY

THAT PRESIDENT BUSH GOT UP

AND HELD THE NEWS CONFERENCE

ANNOUNCING HIS SUPPOR FOR THE AMENDMENT.

Marriage cannot be severed

from its cultural, religious

and natural roots.

SEEING THE PRESIDEN ANNOUNCING

THAT ONE OF HIS

TOP PRIORITIES IN CONGRESS

WAS TO PREVENT ME

AND MY PARTNER

FROM HAVING A LEGITIMATE

RELATIONSHIP,

THAT WAS

A POWERFUL THING.

IT'S A VERY

SURREAL EXPERIENCE

TO WATCH THE STATE

OF THE UNION ADDRESS

AND HAVE THE PRESIDEN OF THE UNITED STATES

ATTACK YOU AND DEMONIZE

YOU IN THAT SPEECH

THAT'S BEING WATCHED

BY THE ENTIRE WORLD.

IT JUST MADE YOU SICK.

IT REALLY IN MANY WAYS

WAS A GUT CHECK FOR ME.

I THINK IT WAS FOR A LO OF OTHER g*y REPUBLICANS TOO.

I WAS JUST FURIOUS.

I FELT BETRAYED.

I FELT ANGRY.

I GUESS IF I BELIEVED

THAT IT WAS A SINCERE

PERSONAL CONVICTION,

I MIGHT HAVE FEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT.

BUT TO JUST USE THA TO GET MORE VOTES...

Fordham:

THIS WAS JUS RAW POLITICS.

THE PRESIDENT DIDN' NEED TO DO THIS TO

GET RE-ELECTED.

I THINK THE FEDERAL

MARRIAGE AMENDMEN WAS THE MOST VIOLENT ATTACK

UPON g*y PEOPLE AND THEIR RIGHTS

IN THIS COUNTRY, EXPLICITLY,

THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.

Marilyn Musgrave:

I cannot think of a better good

that this body

may pursue

than to promote

and defend the idea

that every child deserves both

a father and a mother.

EVERY ACT OF VIOLENCE AGAINS g*y OR l*sbian, BISEXUAL,

TRANSGENDER PEOPLE

USUALLY STARTS WITH

SOME FORM OF VERY VISIBLE

AND VERY LOUD DEFAMATION.

Anywhere in the world today,

you can wake somebody up

in the middle of the night,

you pick 'em,

and say, "Excuse me.

Wake up just a second.

What is a marriage?"

And they'll say, "A union

between a man and a woman."

SO YOU HAVE THESE ANTI-g*y

LEADERS THAT ARE SPEWING

ALL THIS HATRED

ABOUT g*y

AND l*sbian PEOPLE.

AND PEOPLE WHO AREN' REALLY ENGAGED

AND DON'T REALLY

KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON

AND DON'T FOLLOW IT THAT MUCH

HAVE A GENERAL

SAME VIEWPOINT AS THEM

AND THEY JUST SOR OF COPY AND THEY MIRROR IT.

AND THAT'S HOW IT TRANSFORMS.

Reporter:

A charred truck, threats,

"I'll be back,"

and in bigger writing

for everyone to see:

"g*y must go."

Reporter #2:

22-year-old James Nichola

who goes by "Janine"

says he was the victim

of a hate crime.

He says the attackers

the whole time were yelling,

"We want you out

of our neighborhood!"

Reporter #3:

San Jose, California:

Bill Kiley suffered

repeated harassment

from a young neighbor.

Reporter #4:

This is video of Neve

in the hospital

just a few days after

he was brutally attacked.

He spent several days

in Strong Hospital

with a fractured skull,

nose, upper jaw and eye socket.

Reporter #5:

On May 29, the 18-year-old

victim's body

is discovered in the woods

behind his family's

Woodlawn home.

Police say Steven Parrish

had joined a Bloods g*ng

and was k*lled by two

members of his own group.

Court documents say

it's because they thought

he was g*y.

That was four days

before his graduation from

Randallstown High School.

Reporter #6:

Students marched

in Oxnard, California,

in memory of

Lawrence "Larry" King,

a 15-year-old student

police say was gunned down

by a classmate

because he was openly g*y.

14-year-old Brandon McInerney

allegedly shot King

in the head in the school's

computer lab.

- ( weeping )

- It's over.

King was pronounced brain-dead

at a local hospital.

His body was kept alive

so his organs could

be donated.

Today I call upon

the Congress to promptly pass

and to send to the states

for ratification

an amendment

to our Constitution

defining and protecting

marriage as the union

of a man and woman

as husband and wife.

DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH

THE 2004 STRATEGY

AROUND ANTI-g*y ELEMENTS

OF THE BUSH CAMPAIGN,

YOU WILL FIND A CADRE

OF g*y PEOPLE.

THE 2004 ELECTION

WAS A VERY ANTI-g*y--

YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PARTY.

AND KEN MEHLMAN

WAS LIKE THE M.C.

Lifestyle issues.

g*y marriage.

Is that an issue

in this campaign?

I think it's an issue

in many races.

Byrne:

IT WAS HARD BECAUSE THERE

WASN'T THE KIND OF EVIDENCE

WITH KEN MEHLMAN THA THERE WAS WITH OTHER PEOPLE,

BUT IT WAS RELATIVELY KNOWN,

AND NOBODY WOULD EVEN ASK.

A lot of the chiefs

of staff,

the people who really run

the underpinnings

of the Republican party

are g*y.

I don't want to mention names,

but I will Friday night.

You will Friday night?

Well, there's a couple

of big people who I think

everyone in Washington knows

- who run the--

- You will name them?

Well, I wouldn't be

the first.

I'd get sued

if I was the first.

Ken Mehlman,

there's one I think

people have talked about.

I don't think

he's denied it when

people have suggested it.

- He doesn't say--

- I'm walking around

in a fog.

- Come on.

- Ken Mehlman?

I never heard that.

- But the question is--

- Maybe you don't go to

the same bathhouse I do.

I'd get sued if I was

the first.

Maybe you don't go to

the same bathhouse I do.

Why would

someone who is g*y

take public

anti-g*y positions?

Why would you do that?

Because, Larry,

hating yourself is

the greatest love of all.

KEN MEHLMAN WAS THE GUY

THAT RAN THE CAMPAIGN

THAT WAS SENDING OU THESE FLIERS,

THAT WAS BAITING PEOPLE,

THAT WAS--

PARTICULARLY IN OHIO AND ALL

THESE BATTLEGROUND STATES

WHERE IT WAS ALL ABOU "LET'S GET PEOPLE

TO VOTE FOR BUSH

BY THIS g*y THING"

LED BY THE g*y GUY!

AND FUNDED

BY THE g*y GUY!

AND POLITICALLY DIRECTED

BY THE g*y GUY!

YOU KNOW?

AND I THINK PEOPLE

DESERVE TO KNOW THAT.

Sheridan:

I THINK MARY CHENEY'S

OUTING WAS EFFECTIVE.

Rosen:

OH, I'M APPALLED

BY THE CHENEYS.

I FELT EXTREMELY

DISHEARTENED...

THAT THEY WERE AS SUPPORTIVE

OF THE ANTI-g*y POLICIES

AS THEY WERE.

WE ALWAYS THOUGH WE HAD SOME PROTECTION

BECAUSE OF THE VICE

PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER.

If your father was

not the vice president,

and you were a g*y woman

in a g*y relationship

in the United States

in 2004, 2000,

- would you have

voted for this ticket?

- Yes, I would have.

Catania:

IF SHE WERE STRIPPED

OF HER FATHER'S TITLE,

SHE WOULD BE SUBJECTED

TO THE SAME GRATUITOUS

DISCRIMINATION

THAT AFFECTS SO MANY

GAYS AND LESBIANS

IN THIS COUNTRY.

SHE IS PROTECTED

BY HER POSITION

AND HER MONEY.

- And you have a partner.

- I do.

"g*y couples cannot file

jointly for federal taxes."

Is that true?

- That is true.

- And your feelings

about that?

I think it's wrong.

I think they should

be able to.

Did you talk to your

father about this?

We have many conversations

about different issues.

Maybe that's

the point.

I'm wondering

if people would rather

you had talked about it

during the campaign

as opposed to after

the campaign and putting

it in the book.

Would it have

been more effective

to talk about it then?

- ( audience applauding )

- I honestly don't think

it would have been.

I'M COMPLETELY

UNIMPRESSED

THAT SHE DOESN'T AGREE

WITH PRESIDENT BUSH

OR HER FATHER d*ck CHENEY,

WHEN IN FACT SHE WORKED,

SHE WAS A PAID OPERATIVE

TO GET THEM ELECTED

AND THEN RE-ELECTED.

MARY CHENEY'S JOB

BEFORE HER FATHER RAN

FOR PRESIDEN WAS TO BE THE g*y AND l*sbian

LIAISON FOR COORS BEER.

Birch:

SHE MADE HER LIVING

FIGURING OU HOW TO DISSEC THE g*y COMMUNITY

INTO NICHE MARKETS

AND SELL THEM COORS BEER.

BUT SHE WASN' INQUISITIVE ENOUGH

AND DIDN'T CARE ENOUGH

TO DISSEC THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

AND THE ELITE

OF THAT PARTY

TO FIGURE OUT HOW

TO GET BASIC RIGHTS PASSED.

THERE IS PROBABLY NO A BETTER EXAMPLE

OF SOMEONE WHO IS

SO STEEPED

IN HYPOCRISY.

SHE COULD HAVE MADE

A HUGE DIFFERENCE

AND DID NOT.

Gurley:

I GOT A CALL FROM

A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE

WHO TOLD ME THERE WAS

A g*y ACTIVIS WHO WAS GOING

TO START A BLOG

AND WAS GONNA STAR OUTING REPUBLICANS.

DURING THIS TIME, I WAS

THE NATIONAL FIELD DIRECTOR

OF THE REPUBLICAN

NATIONAL COMMITTEE.

ONE OF THE BIG

RESPONSIBILITIES THAT I HAD

WAS HELPING TO OVERSEE

A DIRECT-MAIL PROGRAM.

I WAS THE FIRST ONE

TO GET A PAMPHLE FROM AN ARKANSAS

READER OF MY BLOG

THAT SAID THE DEMOCRATS

WERE GONNA BAN THEIR BIBLE

AND TURN STATES INTO

BASTIONS OF h*m*.

AND THEY WERE SENDING

THIS TO CHURCH PEW ROSTERS

AROUND THE COUNTRY.

Rogers:

IT WAS SENT BY THE REPUBLICAN

NATIONAL COMMITTEE

AND THEY DIDN' EVEN TRY TO HIDE IT!

DAN GURLEY WHO HAD

ULTIMATE AUTHORITY

OVER THESE UNBELIEVABLE FLIERS,

HE HAD A PROFILE ON g*y.COM

THAT WAS STASHED FULL

OF A BUNCH OF HIS PICTURES.

AND HE WAS SEEKING

MULTIPLE PARTNERS FOR SEX.

I GOT A CALL FROM HIM

AT HOME ONE SUNDAY NIGH SAYING, "YOU'RE THE ONE.

YOU'RE GONNA BE NEXT."

HE POINTEDLY ASKED ME

IF I WAS A g*y MAN.

AND I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS.

UH, HE...

IMMEDIATELY

THEN STARTED TO...

TO QUESTION ME ABOU DID I NOT HAVE A CONSCIENCE?

DID I NOT FEEL

SOME SORT OF REMORSE

OR REGRET FOR WORKING

FOR A POLITICAL PARTY,

WORKING TO HELP ELEC A PRESIDEN THAT DID NOT SUPPOR EQUAL RIGHTS FOR g*y AMERICANS?

I BASICALLY JUST SAID,

YOU KNOW,

"YOU DO WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE

YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO DO."

I WAS IN LINE FOR

A PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENT,

IN ALL LIKELIHOOD

IN SOME POLICY ROLE SOMEWHERE.

BUT ONCE ROGERS

DID THIS POSTING ABOUT ME

THAT OPPORTUNITY

EVAPORATED.

Rogers:

RECENTLY I GET AN EMAIL--

"DAN GURLEY'S

ON THE BOARD

OF NORTH CAROLINA EQUALITY."

I'M LIKE, "WHAT?"

I WENT TO THE WEBSITE,

I LOOKED IT ABOUT,

AND I'M LIKE,

"THIS IS HOT.

THIS IS WHY

I STARTED BLOGACTIVE."

HE'S AN OUT g*y MAN

AND HE'S PROUD

AND HE'S ON THE BOARD

OF A STATEWIDE NATIONAL

g*y GROUP.

THIS MAN IS USING HIS SKILL

TO SECURE g*y RIGHTS.

WHAT COULD BE BETTER

AND WHAT BETTER EFFEC COULD I HAVE

AS AN INDIVIDUAL?

Kolbe:

WHEN YOU COME OUT,

I GUARANTEE YOU

THE EXPERIENCE WILL BE

BETTER THAN YOU EVER

DREAMED IT WOULD BE.

IN A SENSE I CAME OUT,

I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY,

IN STAGES.

I LEFT A MARRIAGE

BACK IN 1991

AND THAT WAS

A BIG STEP FOR ME.

I RECOGNIZED MYSELF

AND HER--

WHAT THE FEELINGS

THAT I HAD.

JULY OF '96 WAS

WHEN WE HAD A VOTE

ON WHAT WAS CALLED D.O.M.A.,

THE DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT.

AND I VOTED FOR THAT.

AT THAT TIME "THE ADVOCATE"

MAGAZINE DECIDED THEY WOULD

WRITE AN ARTICLE.

AND APPROACHED ME ABOUT I AND TOLD ME THEY WERE

GOING TO DO SO

AND NAME ME

AS ONE WHO WAS g*y.

AND I BASICALLY JUST SAID,

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS WRONG

FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

I SAID, "I'LL BEA YOU TO THE PUNCH HERE."

AND I JUST DID IT MYSELF.

IT WAS PROBABLY

THE MOST LIFTING EXPERIENCE

I'VE EVER HAD.

I HAD THIS UNBELIEVABLE,

INDESCRIBABLE

SENSE OF PEACE AND CALM

COME OVER ME.

AND I COULD LITERALLY

LITERALLY FEEL

40 YEARS JUST LIFTING

OFF OF MY SHOULDER.

McGreevey:

I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN I DID

MY ANNOUNCEMENT SPEECH.

MY MOTHER HAD

FOUND SOME PRAYER CARDS

FROM MY GRANDMOTHER,

FOR WHOM

I WAS VERY CLOSE TO.

AND I REMEMBER GOING

INTO THE BATHROOM

JUST OUTSIDE

THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

AND, UM...

PRAYING TO MY GRANDMOTHER.

AND SAYING TO HER...

"AT LONG LAST...

THIS IS WHO GOD MADE ME

AND THIS IS A GOOD THING."

Kolbe:

I ALWAYS REMEMBER

JOHN McCAIN.

WHEN I STARTED TO SAY,

"JOHN, THERE'S SOMETHING

I REALLY WANT TO TALK TO YOU

ABOUT AND TELL YOU ABOUT."

HE JUST PUT UP

HIS HAND AND SAID,

"NEVER MIND, JIM. I KNOW.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

YOU'RE A GOOD LEGISLATOR.

YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN

AND YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING

TO BE MY FRIEND."

AND I REMEMBER WALKING AWAY

FROM THAT CONVERSATION THINKING,

"GOSH, THAT WAS PRETTY EASY.

THAT WASN'T VERY TOUGH

TO DO THAT."

AND SO EACH ONE WAS

KIND OF LIKE THAT.

AND IT GOT SO I JUST COULDN' WAIT TO PICK UP THE PHONE

TO MAKE THE NEXT CALL.

Tafel:

I THINK IN THE CASE

OF A MEMBER OF CONGRESS,

THEY DO CHANGE

THEIR VOTING RECORD.

BECAUSE ONCE

YOU'RE OUT OF THE CLOSET,

YOUR DELUSIONAL THINKING

FALLS BY THE WAYSIDE.

Man:

The gentleman is recognized

for three minutes.

Mr. Speaker, we have not used

the amending process

to limit the rights of citizens.

From the First Amendment

to the 14th,

the original framers

in the Congress that followed

have sought to expand,

to protect the rights

of citizens.

This would be a unique amendment

in that it takes away rights

from one group

while specifically conferring

it upon another.

Try to find another provision

in the Constitution

that does this.

You will look in vain.

Mr. Speaker, this Congress

and those after it should

be about protecting

and expanding freedoms.

This proposed amendment

to our Constitution is

about discrimination.

It is about fear.

It is unnecessary,

it is unwarranted and it

should be soundly defeated.

Female announcer:

Amendment 2 does

only one thing:

defining marriage as a union

of a man and a woman.

That's it.

When you vote,

say yes to pass life

to the next generation.

Vote yes to keep marriage

one man, one woman.

That's it.

No one loses benefits.

Please vote yes

on Amendment 2.

A big political announcement

out of Florida tonight.

Republican presidential

candidate John McCain

has picked up

a major endorsement.

I don't think anybody would do

better than the man who stands

next to me: Senator John McCain.

Brzezinski: Governor Crist,

just real quickly, are they

chatting with you

about a possible

V.P. slot for you?

Come on, be shameless.

- Tell us.

- We're chatting about

working hard for Florida.

Reporter:

Crist has obviously coveted

the vice-presidential spot

- on the Republican ticket.

- Chris Matthews: "Try getting

married,"

is that what

we're hearing this week?

Is this part of the excitement

and the build-up

to running for V.P.?

What's going on here?

Reporter #3:

If your wife can't help you

in a campaign, who can?

The state's most eligible

bachelor is officially

off the market

this Fourth of July.

Governor Charlie Crist

is engaged.

He popped the question

yesterday to his girlfriend

of nine months.

Her name is Carole Rome.

Reporter:

Let me start by asking you

what made you decide

to pop the question when

you did and, you know?

Well, I mean, I think you

pop the question like that

when you're in love

and I am.

And so that's why I did it.

And thank God she said yes.

We couldn't be happier.

I TELL THEM TO NEVER LIE,

THAT IF THEY GET THE QUESTION

THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED

TO ANSWER THE QUESTION HONESTLY

AND DO NOTHING BUT ANSWER

THE QUESTION HONESTLY.

Reporter #2:

What's your reaction over

some people's preoccupation,

and I'm not talking this time

about marriage,

with your sexuality?

Both the rumors of-- you know,

the various rumors

that have been around?

Sure. Well, you know,

when you're in the public eye,

being Governor of Florida,

that's inevitable.

And, you know, I just--

I don't really focus on it.

I'm just, uh, you know,

damn glad to-- I found

such a wonderful lady.

THE SAD THING ABOUT THE CLOSE IS IT DOES, IN PART,

GIVE YOU SKILLS THAT YOU CAN

APPLY AS A POLITICIAN,

BECAUSE SO MUCH OF POLITICS

TODAY IS POSITIONING

AND SPINNING AND BEING ABLE

TO PIROUETTE ON AN ISSUE.

Reporter #2:

One aspect is that

you were g*y.

The other one is that you

were a serial philandering

heterosexual.

Does that bother you?

Uh, well, lack of truth

always would be disturbing

to somebody.

But I'm just pleased

that I found happiness.

Patrick Guerriero:

I'VE WATCHED DECENT PEOPLE

STRUGGLE WITH COMING OU AND BEING UNABLE TO DO SO.

THE CLOSET, PARTICULARLY

IN THE MIDST OF A CULTURAL w*r,

SUFFOCATES THE INTEGRITY

OF DECENT PEOPLE.

Announcer:

"For this reason, a man will

leave his father and mother

and be united with his wife

and they will

become one flesh."

For God's design.

Woman:

On November 4th,

vote yes on Amendment 2.

With laws already on the books

to ban same-sex marriage

in Florida,

voters now added that ban

to the State Constitution.

Giuliano:

OH, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

WITHOUT A DOUBT THE GOVERNOR

OF FLORIDA COULD HAVE CHANGED

THE OUTCOME OF THAT ELECTION

HAD HE NOT TILTED TO

THE RIGHT AND DECIDED TO TAKE

THE POSITION THAT HE DID.

YEAH, WITHOUT A DOUBT.

McGreevey:

THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED

WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.

BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU'RE

DOING THE RIGHT THING.

AND DAMN IT,

YOU KNOW WHA THE RIGHT VALUE IS?

THE RIGHT VALUE IS TRUTHFULNESS.

THE RIGHT VALUE

IS HONESTY.

THE RIGHT VALUE ISN'T LIVING

SOMEBODY ELSE'S TRUTH.

IT'S LIVING YOUR TRUTH.

Kramer:

WE DON'T HAVE RIGHTS.

g*y PEOPLE

DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS.

DON'T TELL ME THAT WE DO.

THAT'S WHY

IT'S SO IMPORTAN THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THESE

PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS

IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.

IT AFFECTS GOVERNMENT.

IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING.

Guerriero:

THIS WHOLE ISSUE REALLY DOES

IMPACT THE PUBLIC-POLICY ARENA.

IT AFFECTS SOME OF OUR NATION'S

MOST SIGNIFICAN AND POWERFUL INDIVIDUALS

AND IT'S WHY

MY HOPE IS THA THIS NEXT GENERATION

OF YOUNG AMERICAN LEADERS

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUFFOCATED

IN THE MIDST OF A CULTURAL w*r

THAT HOPEFULLY HAS ENDED

BY THE TIME THEY REACH

WASHINGTON, D.C.

I REALLY DO BELIEVE,

AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT THIS,

THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

A g*y PERSON CAN DO

WITH RESPECT TO

THE SOCIAL-JUSTICE ISSUES

AROUND h*m*

IS SIMPLY TO BE OUT.

AND IT STAGGERS ME TODAY

THAT SO MANY ARE NOT.

IF EVERY g*y PERSON WERE

TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET,

THE g*y RIGHTS MOVEMEN WOULD BE OVER.

THAT'S THE SLEEPING GIAN OF THE MOVEMENT--

IS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

IN THE CLOSET COMING OU EN MASSE

AND IT WOULD BE DONE.

Harvey Milk:

If every g*y person

in this state

came out--

came out to their family,

their friends,

we would win.

But that means that every

g*y person must come out

to their families

so their family doesn't

vote against them,

to their friends, if they

are indeed their friends,

to their relatives,

to the people where

they work,

and to their

next-door neighbors.

Nobody else.

If that happened across

the state, we'd win.

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