I'm sitting in these rooms alone
with people who have run
secret weapons programs,
interrogated t*rrorists,
protected closely-guarded
secrets as a profession,
and all I can think about
is getting them to
tell me something
they don't want me to know.
It's gonna take somebody at
the executive level to do it,
or there's gonna be
a incredible leak somewhere
that's somebody's conscience,
and they don't end up, um,
you know, committing
suicide by 12 b*llet holes
to the back of the
head kind of thing.
The UFO reality can
no longer be denied.
The secret has been
managed and guarded
by a select few
for over 75 years.
Advanced technology,
biological and physical
materials have been recovered.
They've been secretly studied
by compartmentalized factions
within both government
and industry.
These claims are not new.
But you are about to
see undeniable evidence
and previously
unpublished accounts
that make this case
stronger than ever before.
Somewhere between
fact and denial,
you are about to discover
an accidental truth.
3-7-8-2-0-5-8-4.
Knees up. Knees up.
In 2017,
the UFO subject exploded
into the mainstream.
There's a whole fleet of
them. Look on the S.A.
Whoa! Got him!
The New York Times
broke a front page story
about a shadowy government
program studying UFOs.
October 2017.
Leslie Kean, who's a
notable expert on UFOs
she was invited to a very
private conference in Washington
with Lue Elizondo and
some other people,
Chris Mellon, to discuss UFOs.
Lue Elizondo had just submitted
his resignation in October 2017,
as the head of this very
secretive Pentagon UFO office.
Program was established.
It was initially called AAWSAP,
Advanced Aerospace Weapon
System Applications Program,
and very quickly that evolved,
morphed into the more
common vernacular
AATIP, Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program.
I was brought in
initially to come in
to run the counterintelligence and
security piece for this effort in 2008.
In 2010, I was asked by the former
director to run this program.
The program was then
taken out of DIA
and up to the OSD level,
Office of Secretary of Defense.
The Pentagon had this secret
UFO monitoring agency
which nobody knew about.
New York Times, Politico,
and followed by them,
everyone else covering
the UFO subject
suddenly, with seriousness,
suddenly talking about
encounters by the U.S. Navy with
objects that are supposed
to be impossible.
The government is
investigating UFOs.
Well, I almost crashed my car.
Three cryptic
videos were released
that claimed to
show unknown objects
operating in military airspace
while defying known
capabilities of flight
and physics.
There are more of them that
have not been released.
These were only
snippets, by the way,
and we knew that.
But we were happy to get them.
And they caused quite a stir.
Lue Elizondo made the media
rounds with shocking statements.
My personal belief is that
there is very
compelling evidence that
we may not be alone.
Our cosmic neighborhood may
be a hell of a lot bigger.
And by the way, we might,
might, have neighbors.
That's a profound moment.
At the 2018 symposium
of The Mutual UFO Network,
behind closed doors,
he went beyond his public
statements to drop a bombshell.
Sometimes people may
have associated you
as being fringe or
being out there,
and all along, you were right.
One of the pilots who
engaged the craft,
Commander David Fravor,
chimed in with bold statements
inferring otherworldly origins
of the mysterious phenomenon.
I believe, as do the other
folks that were on the flight,
that what we visually saw, that it
was something not from this world.
You are talking to a pilot
who is looking at you
with complete bewilderment as to
looking to you for answers.
They're asking you,
"Sir, what was this?"
Congress is now looking at the
possibility of national security
that the military is now owning
up to hours of videotapes
taken by Navy pilots.
There's been a sea change.
Things are changing.
People are more open
to the idea that,
yeah, maybe we're not
alone in the universe.
We were given an updated
phrase to describe it all.
Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.
They're calling
them UAPs sometimes.
Sometimes UFO, sometimes UAP.
It's a kind of a rebranding
to a certain extent
and a redefinition of
what the phenomenon is.
A new group called To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Sciences was introduced.
We are To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Science.
A public benefit corporation.
The group was co-founded
by rock star Tom DeLonge.
I was working my
way through NASA,
the Department of Defense,
and various "other" agencies.
Its members spoke out,
hinting of
unprecedented openness
and straight answers
about the topic.
But who are these people really?
Dr. Hal Puthoff, former
CIA operations officer.
Jim Semivan, a 50-year veteran of NASA,
the CIA, and the National Security Agency.
Steve Justice,
former director of Lockheed
Martin Skunk Works.
Christopher Mellon, former Undersecretary
of Defense for Intelligence.
Lue Elizondo,
fresh from a controversial
Pentagon resignation.
Was anybody going to share anything
that brought us concrete answers?
It was the first time I
really digested the enormity
of the national security
implications of the UFO subject.
The CIA and all these people
associated with Skunk Works
and other intelligence agencies,
you're not the right people
to come out with this.
You're really not.
Because you're the ones that have
been lying to us for 70 years.
We haven't trusted these
individual agencies ever.
In fact, they've always
teased our community.
We are dealing with insiders.
We are dealing with people
who have been in government,
the military, the
intelligence community,
have access to
classified information.
But those people, all of them,
will have to be very careful.
For us to just go ahead and spew out
to satisfy the idle curiosity of a few,
that's not our job.
Our job is to protect
this nation from enemies,
foreign and domestic.
For what it's worth, I see
it that they were trying to
make progress on this
within government,
they took it as
far as they could,
and then they realized that,
really, the only way to
move it further forward
was to leave government
and do it outside of that.
Some believe that this new
roll-out of information
was a cleverly
crafted set of events
being orchestrated
by hidden hands.
An evasive faction
who has controlled this
information for years.
I'm not a believer in
the conspiracy theory
that this is some plot to leak it
to The New York Times and all that.
I mean, too many elements came
together completely serendipitously.
And, you know, looking back,
you can, you know,
try to make a case
that this was all orchestrated
and not at all true.
I think that this was
definitely something
that was organized,
thought out long-term.
Again, I think some...
I think they know, and they're
trying to get ahead of something.
I think... I use the analogy of
a snowball at the top of a hill,
and it starts out really small.
And as it rolls down, it's
going to get bigger and bigger,
and I think they're trying
to get ahead of that.
You can't talk about this subject
with a government background
without being the bad guy,
in some people's minds eye.
It just comes with
the territory.
I refuse to discuss
anything classified.
I've took an oath, which is,
by the way, a lifelong oath.
As I've told people before,
don't ask me because I'm
not going to tell you.
Lue is in a tough spot,
because he knows a
lot of things that...
I mean, he still... He was...
He came out of the
Intelligence community
and he probably still,
undoubtedly still has connections
to the Intelligence community.
Well, you know, so he can't
say everything he knows
and has been privy to.
These people promoting this...
agenda of UFO openness,
not disclosure, but openness,
they have enemies within
that establishment.
So we're not talking
about a unified message.
It's very uncomfortable.
Especially if
you've lived a life
where anonymity has
been your friend.
We have every right
to know the truth.
And it's... It's not okay that
they're holding that back.
It is not a fun place to be.
In fact, if I had
any opportunity
for anybody else to stand
up and take my place...
I would do it.
There are a lot of people
that want this information out
and there are a lot of people who
don't want this information out.
The level of pushback that
Harry Reid shared
with me on camera.
When he tried to launch
this investigatory arm
into creating AATIP,
he said he got so much pushback
from the intelligence agencies,
that they, like, tried
to destroy people.
They really did not
want this to happen.
After the initial media flurry,
the Pentagon promised a report
that might shed some
light on the subject.
Do you expect to see real
answers in this report?
What do you think?
Look. Honestly, I
don't think so, Jake.
The public only received
a few pages of
inconclusive information.
A more elaborate report was delivered
to Congress behind closed doors.
Freedom of Information
Act requests,
known as FOIA requests,
were submitted.
The responses received
were heavily redacted.
Three years later, three
and a half years later,
no new evidence has come out.
We've got no new videos.
Nothing like that happened.
Congressman Tim Burchett
has become an outspoken
crusader against the secrecy.
The American public deserves
to know. We need transparency.
That's why nobody
trusts government.
Nobody trusts either party
when it comes down to it.
Instead of new answers,
we've been given a
whitewashing of the past
and further reinforcement
of a "New Narrative"
created to fit the day.
The New Narrative states that
the UAP's not ours or
any foreign government's.
They display characteristics
that defy explanation.
"We are committed to
determining their nature,
"and assessing any
potential threat."
There was no official
government study of the topic
after Project Blue
Book ended in 1969,
until the AAWSAP
program started in 2004.
By sort of extracting a
lot of the history out,
they're able to
make it seem like,
wow, this is a
real mystery here.
So, I don't agree with that.
I think their New Narrative,
I think they have this fear,
you know, that it's a threat.
And the word "threat" kind
of bothers me a little bit.
But I understand that in order
to get government attention,
they need to call it,
perhaps, a threat.
So we have an ongoing
situation here.
This is a defense issue.
It's an air safety issue.
It's a national security issue.
It's a valid issue.
There is something flying
around in our airspace
and we don't know what it is or
we're not telling what it is.
Eighteen months ago,
if you had asked anyone in
government the official line on UFOs,
you would have received
a standard response
rather like this.
"There is no current interest
or involvement in the subject.
"Since the termination
of Blue Book in 1969,
"nobody in government
"is researching or
investigating this."
You know, the
department writ large
is clearly not interested
in UFOs whatsoever.
This story leaves a
gap of over 35 years
that the government
was supposedly
not engaged in the
study of the phenomenon.
The media was quick to
participate in the new story.
Were they complicit in delivering
this new version of the facts?
There is a risk of believing
the official narrative
too quickly and
just reporting it.
There's many steps to go and
it's going to take a while.
And, you know, they still have
a totally compliant media,
for the most part.
I can tell you from my
knowledge of The New York Times.
The New York Times is not afraid
to confront the government.
Having been legal counsel
for The New York Times
and for NBC News,
the people on the board of
editors of those things,
you know, feel themselves to have a certain
patriotic duty, as they perceive them,
to not reveal anything
to the American public
that the National Security State
people don't want revealed.
So I don't want to be bound
by what Danny Sheehan
said about his,
you know, concepts of what
The Times prints and doesn't.
This New Narrative has
become the official story.
It was even stated as
fact by Andre Carson
at the beginning of the first
congressional UFO hearings,
in over 40 years.
More than 50 years ago,
the U.S. Government
ended Project Blue Book.
An effort to catalog
and understand
sightings of objects in the air
that could not
otherwise be explained.
For more than 20
years, that project
had treated unidentified
anomalies in our airspace
as a national security threat to
be monitored and investigated.
In 2017, we learned for the first
time that the Department of Defense
had quietly restarted
a similar organization,
tracking what we now call
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
We've heard all of this before.
The New Narrative is really an
eerie echo of 70-year-old events.
We can say that the recent
sightings are in no way connected
with any secret development by
any agency of the United States.
Aircraft, we call them aircraft,
are displaying characteristics
that are not currently
within the U.S. inventory,
nor in any foreign inventory
that we are aware of.
Air Force interest
in this problem
has been due to our
feeling of an obligation
to identify and analyze,
to the best of our ability,
anything in the air that
may have the possibility
of threat or menace
to the United States.
We know that our service
members have encountered
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
And because UAPs pose
potential flight safety
and general security risk,
we are committed to a focused
effort to determine their origins.
However, there have been a certain
percentage of this volume of reports
that have been made
by credible observers
of relatively incredible things.
It is this group of observations
that we now are
attempting to resolve.
There will be a recognized
concerted effort
to figure this out.
The old story was repeated almost
verbatim by the current players.
We're still far
from the goal line,
and there is a lot of positions
that they could
take along the way
that still will allow them
to maintain credibility
and avoid culpability.
The media and the
public want more.
They want answers.
I'm not sure that there are
going to be easy answers to this.
They're trying to sweep anything
prior to 2004 under the carpet,
but we won't let them
because we've got
all the historical cases
and those can't go away.
They're not only whitewashing
history, they're denying it.
They're only acknowledging
the phenomenon back to 2004.
The government has
a lot to answer for.
Absolutely right.
The history of the
subject has been replete
with misinformation
and disinformation.
It's just a complete cover up.
What was going on in the time between
the closing of Project Blue Book
and the beginning of the
officially announced UFO programs
that we know about today?
Why is it important?
Because in those years,
is where the truth lies.
A truth that many have gone to great
lengths to conceal, deny, and debunk.
We start by taking a closer look
at the period between
1947 and 2005.
The existence of
official UFO research
and programs by the U.S.
Government in this time frame
has been staunchly denied.
The facts challenge
that position.
In the late 1940s, the world was
recovering from World w*r II.
The military was reorganizing.
In 1947, the Air Force
was being created
as a standalone
branch of service.
The Cold w*r and its strategic
questions were looming.
But in the midst of all of this,
the United States Army
created what they called
the Interplanetary
Phenomenon Unit
of the Scientific
and Technical branch.
Why did they need that?
Numerous FOIA request verified the
existence of this Army program.
They state that
the unit disbanded
and was folded into Project
Blue Book in the 50s.
But the files of this group
are not part of the official
Project Blue Book Collection.
So where did they go?
During that time, there was advanced
technology in the possession of Germany.
Scientists were brought over after
the w*r to continue the work.
Stories of UFOs and
crashes were abundant,
including the famous
Roswell incident of 1947.
The late astronaut
Dr. Edgar Mitchell
was given secret information
about events of the time.
In this never before seen video,
he shares what he was told.
Individuals at the Pentagon,
had been attempting
to get into the system
and find out about it,
thus confirming
and had confirmed.
That the Roswell
incident was real.
They saw some of the material
from the crashed spacecraft.
Some saw bodies from the beings
that were k*lled in that crash.
There were some that
saw a live being.
A live being had been taken away
and was in the system somewhere.
So those were real life incidents
that were reported to me.
Many believe in the formation
of a group called Majestic 12
assembled by President Truman,
to strategize about how
to handle the information
about these encounters and more.
Documents purport to
detail the creation
and deployment of this
group, but their authenticity
is still a hotly debated topic.
It makes sense, however, that
under such circumstances,
just such a group
would have been formed.
They would have had
control of the subject
and accountability
to a select few.
If a decision was
made to enact secrecy,
this group would
have made it happen.
After years of UFO hysteria and
speculation between 1947 and 1952,
the government finally said that they
were taking the subject seriously.
Enter Project Blue Book,
a public program
that was supposed to shed
light on the UFO subject.
Paul Hynek, son of the late
J. Allen Hynek, shared this.
My father was the chief
scientific consultant
working alongside Air
Force counterparts.
And it became clear that the
role of Project Blue Book
wasn't to look for the truth,
but was to manufacture answers
and to tamp down hysteria.
Somebody called it the Society for
the Explanation of the Uninvestigated.
My father had to question
whether he should stay involved.
James McDonald, one of
his colleagues, said,
look, you're being played
a fool by the Air Force,
and my father thought
a lot about it.
He finally decided that
having that front row center
seat to all these goings on
and being able to influence
things, not control,
was worth the trouble.
But it became increasingly
frustrating for him over time,
as he saw that the Air Force
was not changing their colors.
J. Allen Hynek was
openly frustrated
by the fact he was
never given access
to what he knew were compelling
events shrouded in secrecy.
It haunted him until
his passing in 1986.
Official Air Force statements regarding
the conclusion of Blue Book say,
"Since the termination
of Project Blue Book,
"nothing has occurred
that would support
"a resumption of UFO
investigations by the Air Force."
But another four-year request
revealed a different story.
A 1969 memo from General
Carroll Bolender,
a senior director at Air Force
Research and Development,
stated, "After Blue
Book was dissolved,
"that reports of 'UFOs'
"would still continue
to be handled
"through a standard
Air Force procedure
"designed for this purpose.
"Furthermore, reports of
unidentified flying objects
"which could affect
national security were, are,
"not part of the
Blue Book system."
There was the creation of the Air
Intelligence Service squadrons,
which were tasked
with going to any spot
in the continental
United States,
within six hours and
picking up debris,
fallen pilots, and also
containing information leak.
And so many people think
that that would have been
the entity or the agency that
gave birth to the Men in Black.
What seems to be clear is
that there was a bifurcation.
That Project Blue Book
may have started off
as a serious
scientific endeavor,
but as of 1953,
it no longer was,
and there was most likely the Air
Intelligence Service squadrons
that picked up the banner
of going out and
trying to find saucers
and then hand them off to people
who would try to
reverse-engineer
the propulsion
systems, et cetera.
General Arthur Exon
described to us
when he was base commander
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base in 1964,
that there would
be an ongoing joke
that the Blue Book, you know,
a two-man team would fly off
in a little single engine
plane in one direction,
and then the actual project
would arrive from Washington
on a commercial flight, they would
change back into their uniforms,
and a team of 12-15 officers
would fly off in a jet
to actually conduct
full-scale investigations.
Project Blue Book
was headquartered
at Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base,
but some of the other,
more secret UFO programs
seem to have been
located there, too.
One of these is the
mysterious Blue Room,
an underground repository of
recovered technology and debris.
This is the location, allegedly,
where they brought the bodies
and the craft from
the Roswell crash
and where all of the other
crash retrievals and bodies,
kind of like they have a consortium
of where they keep all this.
So you've got the bodies, you've got
the craft, you've got the debris,
autopsy reports,
the eight-by-ten glossy
black and white photographs,
and the g*n camera footage
is all supposed to be kept
at the Blue Room, some type
of an underground vault
or Building 18 at
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
Senator Barry Goldwater
sought confirmation of this.
At Wright-Patterson field,
if you could get
into certain places,
you find out what the Air Force
and the government
knows about UFOs.
Reportedly, a spaceship landed
and it was all hushed up,
quiet, and nobody ever...
I've never heard
about much of it.
I called Curtis LeMay,
and I said, "General,
"I know we have a room
at Wright-Patterson,
"where you put all
the secret stuff.
"Could I go in there?"
I've never heard him get mad,
but he got madder
than hell at me.
Cussed me out,
said, "Don't ever ask
me that question."
Supposedly, the contents of
the Blue Room were filmed.
Exhaustive FOIA requests
finally revealed that this film
did indeed exist,
but was destroyed.
Nick Pope, a longtime ex-British
government pundit on the topic,
denied official investigation
of the subject for years.
Until he didn't.
The more interesting UFO
sightings are being looked at,
but not under the auspices
of a formally constituted
UFO research program.
We now know about a
government UFO program,
but we might not know about
the government UFO program.
Pope has told a story about
a picture that hung on the
wall of his office for years
until being removed.
The Calvine incident
from the United Kingdom,
is one of the most
intriguing sightings
in the British
government's UFO files.
And for some years,
when I was working in Ministry of
Defense main building on this issue,
we had a blown-up,
poster-sized enlargement
of one of the photos
that was taken.
The story is that two hikers
were out and they saw a
large diamond-shaped UFO.
At one point, there was a
military jet in the background.
And then the UFO
accelerated away.
We had looked at them at
the Ministry of Defense.
They'd been analyzed by various
intelligence community imagery analysts.
It was literally a UFO.
The Ministry of Defense
embarked on a campaign
to declassify and
release its UFO files.
Documents about the
Calvine incident emerged,
but the full-size color photos,
the negatives, the enlarged
image that was on my wall,
gone. Disappeared.
There was an effort to
see if the original photos
might be in the hard copy file
held at the National Archives.
And, apparently,
the hard copy file
will be released in
about the year 2072.
In an interesting
turn of events,
just as we were
finishing this project,
the picture appeared.
This is the mysterious
Calvine UFO photograph.
The facts around this photograph
strongly suggest
an unknown group
that was able to intercept
the release of this image
and attempt to stop it.
But who are they?
Information in government,
in particularly
intelligence information,
it's highly classified,
deeply compartmentalized,
everyone works in silos.
The left hand often doesn't know
what the right hand's doing.
We saw an example of
compartmentalization
and the evasion of scrutiny
and straight answers
during the recent
Senate hearings on UFOs.
So you're not aware of anything in
between Project Blue Book and AATIP?
Hasn't been brought
to my attention.
That data is not within the
holdings of the UAP task force.
There are many things that
are out there in the ether
that aren't officially
brought to our attention.
How would it have to
be officially brought?
I'm bringing it
to your attention.
Probably a lot of leads that
we would have to follow up on.
I don't think we have
resource to do that right now.
All I can speak to is, you know,
what's within my cognizance,
the UAP task force, and we have
not looked at that incident.
And then, finally, are
you aware of a document
that appeared around 2019,
sometimes called the Admiral
Wilson Memo or E.W. Notes Memo?
- I am... I am not...
- I'm not personally aware of that.
These answers are made possible
by compartmentalization
that A*DS in deniability.
You can ask the questions,
but who are you
going to ask them of?
And you've got to make sure you're
asking the right people the questions,
because that's another problem.
You can ask questions
all day long.
While we're at it, what
is the Wilson-Davis Memo
that Senator
Gallagher asked about?
It's the leak of 15 pages
of notes by Dr. Eric Davis,
of a meeting he had in
2002 with a retired member
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Admiral Thomas R. Wilson.
And the contents of these
notes are absolutely expl*sive.
The Wilson-Davis Memo
was found in the files
of the late Dr. Edgar Mitchell.
It was the existence of a
reverse-engineering program
to reverse-engineer
extraterrestrial technology.
After he learned
about the existence
of a deep classified program
to study ET technology.
And the fact that he had genuine
legal regulatory oversight over this,
how he was denied
access to this program.
We'd retrieved a functioning
craft that was ET in nature.
I mean, this is all
stated in there.
And that there had been this
long reverse-engineering program.
But it had gone into
a corporate company,
and the heads of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff
have no business
looking into it.
The memorable quote
on that note is,
"Technology not of this Earth,
"not made by man,
not by human hands."
They said, "No,
you're not read in."
Admiral Wilson denies the
authenticity of the story.
Dr. Eric Davis plays
a significant role
in the programs we
are describing here,
the history and the research.
He said this,
"I am not at liberty to confirm or
verify any aspect of those notes."
These notes, in my view,
there's no question
about their authenticity.
In a recent presentation
to Congress,
MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network,
presented a slide pointing out
nearly 20 government agencies
that have some program
or study of UAP.
There were many.
In 1991,
New York Times
writer Howard Blum
released the book Out There.
In it, he detailed
an actual group
formed by the Pentagon to
investigate new evidence
related to an
extraterrestrial presence.
This group, referred to in the
book as the UFO Working Group,
was led by a
shadowy army colonel
referred to as Colonel Phillips.
It is believed that the
mysterious Colonel Phillips
represents a real colonel who
is even more of a mystery.
Colonel John Alexander is a central
figure in much of this history.
In 1985, he became the director of
advanced concepts at the U.S. Army Lab.
In 2009,
John Alexander spoke
at the UFOX Conference
and was interviewed
behind the scenes.
What I think needs to happen at
this time is not disclosure per se,
because I don't think
there is much to disclose.
What I think needs to happen
is we need to make it okay,
permissible for
serious scientists
who want to explore
these fields to do this.
Unknown at the time of
this original interview,
he had been running a program
exactly like the kind
described in Blum's book.
A bunch of military, aerospace
and government insiders
started with the Advanced
Theoretical Physics Working Group.
Now, there's even some evidence
that it existed prior to that.
I ran a program
inside the government,
I had all of the
services involved,
I had many aspects of the
Intelligence community,
I had aerospace engineers.
It was at the top
secret SCI level,
so everybody had
the high clearances.
They had this meeting
at BDM Corporation
in a secure vault room and said,
"We're forming up this group."
And that was in 1985.
The real name of the group
was the Advanced Theoretical
Physics Working Group.
The study topics included
Advanced Detector Deployment,
Established Communication,
New Materials,
Develop a "Gravity
Interaction System",
"Biological Controls
of Processes".
We start by saying it's real.
So let's be clear.
UFOs are real,
sensor systems picked them up.
UFOs have been around, you know,
since, again, the
beginning of time,
or recorded history
as we know it.
It is a global phenomenon.
One of the things that will
come up in this, undoubtedly,
is the BAASS study
or the one that
Lue Elizondo said
came out in The New York Times.
We spent a lot of time
in the analysis piece of this,
getting experts
within the community,
both the Department of Defense
and the Intelligence community.
It basically followed
the same thing
that I had done 30 years earlier
and found, I think,
basically the same thing.
What we're talking
about is something
that is probably not
ours or adversarial.
Something that we really just
don't know where it's from.
And may have been frankly
here for quite a while.
The things that they knew about
the capabilities of
UFOs were being observed
felt the same.
Really fast, high speed
turns, anti-gravity.
You know, things that
just can't happen.
And first of all, every
sensorial system we have
does pick up UFOs
from time to time.
We have hard craft more
than a mile across,
multi sensor. I mean,
absolutely real.
And thousands and thousands
of variations in between.
UAP observed and
interacting with
and flying over sensitive
military facilities,
and not just ranges,
but some facilities housing
our strategic nuclear forces.
One such incident
allegedly occurred
at Malmstrom Air Force Base,
in which ten of our nuclear
ICBMs were rendered inoperable.
People do look at
some of these things.
Particularly, the
incidents with F aded Giant
that Bob Salas talks about
where you had missiles go down.
Absolutely real.
I have heard stories, I have
not seen the official data.
No official assessment
that you've done or exist
within DOD that you're aware of
regarding the
Malmstrom incident?
We have not looked
at that incident.
You're the guys
investigating it.
I mean, who else is doing it?
Studied the hell out of it and
end up with, "Have no idea."
This stunning set of revelations
places John Alexander in
the thick of the subject
during the elusive
missing years in question.
A request for information
on the military background
of Colonel John Alexander
returned an absolute refusal
by the Department
of Army personnel,
to even acknowledge Colonel
Alexander's military record.
After retiring from the Army,
John Alexander worked at
Los Alamos National Labs.
In 1995,
Alexander took a position at a
new research group called NIDS.
The National Institute
for Discovery Sciences.
NIDS was founded by a Nevada
billionaire, Robert Bigelow.
These individuals became
friends with Robert Bigelow,
and they became
involved with him.
Shortly after that,
another organization
was formed called NIDS,
National Institute
of Discovery Science.
And Bigelow funded that,
and it involved all these
same people and others.
Shortly after forming NIDS,
Robert Bigelow bought the famous
paranormal site known as Skinwalker Ranch.
John Alexander was there.
I was with Bob,
Robert Bigelow who owned it.
I was with Bob the day
he bought the ranch.
Was the first one to,
you know, spend the night.
We spent years looking at that.
He would go on to
personally witness events
that led him to
startling conclusions
about the complexity of
unexplained phenomenon.
There was no single phenomenon
that was happening at the ranch.
The stories are so bizarre,
what you end up, though,
with is something that
is terribly complex,
maybe more complex
than we can imagine.
It wasn't long before
strange reports
of unusual activity at the ranch
attracted the attention of the
Defense Intelligence Agency.
You look at the guys involved,
and some of them were, I mean,
we're talking PhD-level scientists.
Robert Bigelow went on to form
Bigelow Advanced Aerospace Studies,
BAASS, as the evolved
version of NIDs.
He was quickly rewarded with a
Defense Intelligence Agency contract
to study subjects closely
tied to the UAP phenomenon.
According to the
original contract,
some of these topics included,
Lift, Propulsion,
Control, Power Generation,
Spatial/Temporal Translation,
Materials, Structural
Configuration,
Signature Reduction,
Human Interface,
Human Effects, and Armament.
At one point, BAASS
brought on MUFON,
the Mutual UFO Network,
to help in the study of UFO
events around the world.
Richard Lang ran the
program inside MUFON.
When we put this
program together,
basically what they were doing
is they were paying MUFON
for data every month.
At the time that we
put this all together,
we didn't know that the
DIA was funding this.
I knew based on some of
the conversations I had
that there was somebody funding
that, that wasn't Bigelow,
but I didn't know who it was.
I assumed it was some
government agency.
The BAASS program
was called AAWSAP.
It was the precursor program
to what we now know as AATIP.
Lue Elizondo says he took over the
remains of the program in 2009.
So the initial focus of AATIP,
which was really AAWSAP,
was very broad.
So imagine trying to sh**t
a fly with a shotgun, right?
Chances are you
probably hit the fly,
but chances are you're
going to hit a lot more.
So we quickly realized that we
were getting a lot of information
as a result of this
broad focus very quickly,
and we frankly, just didn't have
the staff to deal with it all.
So a decision was made early on
to focus a program, the
program was renamed to AATIP,
and really use, let's
say, instead of a shotgun,
maybe we're going to use a
sn*per r*fle this time, right?
So much more focused on what it
is we were trying to collect,
and try to digest this
elephant, one bite at a time.
And so the focus of
AATIP was indeed...
Was indeed the phenomenon.
Again, the challenge
is, where do you start?
We have got, and
we may well get,
interesting information,
but we may never get all of it.
What I'm afraid happens,
too, is that somebody
that has this knowledge,
passes away or goes on,
and then the new person
coming in doesn't quite
grasp what's going on.
One difficulty with getting
information from the military is,
those who say don't know.
Those who know don't say.
In other words, when someone
says that they know everything
about what's happening with the
military, then don't believe it.
Because maybe there are
things that they don't know.
So I think the mantra
here is "Beware".
That is, be cautious.
Don't believe everything
you hear from the military.
These private corporations
that are running
the special access programs,
they are the Mafia.
They don't want anything
examining what they do.
They've got the future
in their possession.
They've got the most exotic
technology and science imaginable,
and they have it.
Why would they possibly
want to share it?
Anybody that does
know the truth,
I don't know their name.
You don't know their name.
They are not in the
public right now.
They are not
speaking to anybody.
They're not on camera.
You don't know them.
And that's where the dark
programs, I think, come in.
The Skunk Works and
things like that.
It's where the government and big
business somehow are interlocked,
that we don't know and
there's somebody knows.
Somebody is getting that money
and it's going somewhere.
When it came to
investigating UFO mystery,
a lot of people used to say
that all roads lead to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
But in the last few years,
and especially some of the
more controversial subjects,
a lot of the roads
lead right here.
Recently declassified documents
now shed light on the
other aspects of BAASS
and information that
may have originated
from some of these
older programs.
Since the early 1900s,
there have been reports
of crashed UFOs.
For over a century,
hundreds of witnesses have
shared their accounts.
There were 119 alleged
crash retrieval cases.
All we need is one to be true,
and it's disclosure right
there. All we need is one.
So, some of the cases
that come to mind
are certainly 1941, Cape
Girardeau, Missouri,
where there were three
bodies recovered.
The craft was recovered as well.
It's alleged that the bodies
in the craft were stored,
not at the Pentagon,
because the Pentagon
didn't exist in '41,
but in the basement of the Capitol
Building in Washington, D.C.
So that's 1941, Cape Girardeau.
Now, move fast
forward six years,
you've got July 2nd, 1947.
You've got the Roswell
Crash retrieval.
There was a small
egg-shaped craft
the size of a Volkswagen
with a dome on top.
There were five
bodies recovered,
one was still alive,
so that's Roswell.
Move forward in 1953,
you've got the Kingman.
This is not the crash retrieval,
but it is a forced landing.
There were four
beings associated
with that particular
retrieval operation.
They were all live, they
did establish contact.
That craft was allegedly brought
to the remote test site in Nevada.
Now, prior to that, we've got
the '48 Aztec crash retrieval.
This was a 99.9 foot
diameter, disk-shaped craft,
that had kind of a silver
outer exterior color.
There were two bodies recovered
on the upper dome of the craft
in the central part of the rim
of the craft. On the interior,
there were another 14 bodies
for a grand total of 16 bodies.
That craft was allegedly brought
back to Los Alamos, reassembled,
and then the retrieval operation or
the reverse engineering operation
began at that point.
These are some of the
retrieval operations
in cases that come to mind that,
if we could get one of these,
the evidence for one of these, it would
push this field of ufology forward.
There's a red line in this whole process
that you're not allowed to cross.
And the red line is,
well, the conspiracy line.
The red line is basically
crash retrievals,
because if you acknowledge
that there had been
retrievals of this technology,
and bodies,
there is no way to avoid
the obvious conclusion
that this is a conspiracy.
Areas of materials recovery to
the extent that they have been
recovered in crashes,
are heavily classified,
so we don't have access
to that material.
We know about programs
that have existed to study
and attempt to reverse
engineer this technology.
The evidence has been
circumstantial at best.
Until now.
Included in the
2017 media flurry,
was an additional story
by The New York Times.
And they took the conversation
right to the edge,
of crash retrievals.
Right to the precipice.
If they took one more step,
they're going off that cliff
and we're talking about
genuine UFO cash retrievals.
What we do know, and what we
put in The New York Times,
and I'm pretty proud of this because
it was as far as we could go,
that was fully documented, was that
a congressional committee's staff
were briefed on with slides
referring to material recovery.
Apparent material recovery
from crashed UFOs...
off-Earth, off-planet vehicles.
They quoted Eric Davis,
they quoted Harry Reid,
both very positively
about UFO crash... Can you
imagine what that's like
for The New York Times to talk
about UFO crash retrievals?
Senator Harry Reid
was quoted as saying
that materials recovered
from off-world craft
were studied as part
of the AAWSAP Program.
After the story broke,
Senator Reid strongly objected
to some of the wording of the
story and demanded a retraction.
The verbiage was
changed slightly,
but The Times still sticks
by its original reporting.
Stories in The New York Times were
fully documented, with named sources.
We didn't put in information
that hid the origin.
It was very transparent.
We said where we
got the information,
we had briefing slides.
One was put into a story
that we wrote in The Times.
We actually had the
slide, you know,
copied and and pictured
in The New York Times.
Dr Eric Davis again
made an appearance.
This time, it was reported that
he delivered a presentation
behind the closed
doors of Congress,
acknowledging that some
materials were recovered
from off-world craft.
Dr. Davis is quoted
elsewhere as saying,
"We have crash retrievals
and they've been analyzed.
"The program was terminated for lack
of progress in reverse engineering."
Because there is no
way at that point
that you can pretend
there's something out there,
but we don't know what they
are. Which has been a little
pretend game that everyone's
been playing all this time.
Elizondo plays that game
'cause he has to.
'Cause he knows how
far he's allowed to go.
I'm not a whistleblower,
and as far as a leaker,
I'll be damned if someone's going to
call me a leaker, because a leaker's
somebody who takes
classified information
and provides it in an
unauthorized manner
for the purpose of disclosure.
I've never done that,
and I never will do that.
Do you think the
U.S. Government has
debris from a UFO
in its possession?
Unfortunately, Tucker, I really
have to be careful of my NDA.
I really can't go into a
lot more detail than that.
- Okay.
- But simply put, yes.
Chris Melon, former
undersecretary
of Defense for Intelligence,
said in a Washington Post Op Ed,
that the government had not
been studying the UFO topic,
and because of his position,
he would know if it was.
But when we pressed him on it,
he made a stunning statement.
There's a bona fide issue
there, and I understand that...
I was part of a process that
was supposedly reviewing
all of the Defense Department
special access programs,
and I'd also... People don't
generally understand this taxonomy,
but there is a world of programs
within the Defense Department
that is entirely separate and distinct
from the Intelligence community,
and is not shared with the
Intelligence community.
And to some extent, vice versa.
In addition, there's a group of
programs at the Department of Energy,
and again, those are
not generally shared.
So, there's sort of three galaxies
which intersect to some degree
of very tightly held programs.
I was very deep on two of the
tree, had some access to the third.
But as I've often said to people,
"You don't know, what you don't know."
And you know, there is a possibility
that there is some very small...
tightly held close hold group, for example,
that has some crash debris or something,
and was working that...
The rest of the department,
and even we didn't know about
at the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee.
So now there are reports
of perhaps debris.
Debris left over from UFOs.
Even with thinly veiled
admissions from those in the know,
and evidence pointing to corporations
having received materials to study,
details about any of
these physical materials
have been unverifiable.
Recently, that changed.
UFO investigator Anthony
Regalia finally received a reply
to a Freedom of Information Act
request that he filed back in 2017,
pertaining to "Physical debris recovered
by personnel of the Department of Defense
"as residue, flotsam,
shot-off material
"or crashed UAP, or
unidentified flying objects."
After two years of
going back and forth,
and Ragalia's
threat of lawsuits,
the DIA admitted
that it had documents
responsive to the request
on recovered debris,
and its analysis and a program
under which it was administered.
Included in the FOIA release, are reports
about a variety of advanced materials.
The reports speculated about
how they may be created,
and what they may be capable of.
One is a well-known
alloy, called Nitinol.
It's a shapeable, memory
retaining titanium alloy.
Nitinol enjoys wide use today
in a variety of applications.
But its capabilities bare
similarity to the many accounts
about the so called
Roswell memory metal.
Hey, is it from a crash?
How do you know about that?
We heard about it on the radio.
Everybody's talking about it.
Abracadabra.
How'd it do that?
The origins of Nitinol help
make a case for stories
of extraterrestrial technology
being recovered and delivered
to science and industry.
It was supposedly invented in a
naval weapons research lab in 1959.
But its origins have been traced
back even further, to a corporation
called Battelle
Memorial Institute.
Since the late 1940s,
Battelle maintained a contract
to analyze metal samples
provided by Wright
Patterson Air Force Base.
Another is a class of materials
called metallic glass.
Transparent aluminum?
That's the ticket, laddie.
The material described in the
Star Trek film Voyage Home
in 1986 actually exists.
We find upon further research,
that the original patents for
this type of metallic glass
was initially
applied for in 1981
by the Raytheon Corporation.
These guys in the
Lockheed and TRW,
and McDonnell Douglas or Boeing,
General Electric, Raytheon...
Look, there's no way they're going
to voluntarily let this happen.
There's more.
We now enter the stunning
world of meta materials.
In this recording, from an interview
Lue Elizondo gave to the MUFON journal.
He discusses the finer points
of the materials claims.
So, it was never about
unidentified metal alloys.
Any second year metal
artist will tell you
elements are elements,
and we can figure it out.
What was actually discussed
was certain meta materials
in which they're isotopic ratios at
the molecular level are so unique,
and so precise, based
on the complexity
that the origins of those
materials remain unknown.
If we do encounter
extraterrestrial materials,
they would have isotopic ratios
that are not found on the earth
because of their
exposure to cosmic rays,
different kinds of manufacturer
they would differ from us.
And so that's one way to analyze the fact
that these are, in fact extraterrestrial,
because they have
different isotopic ratios.
There are more space age
materials described in the reports
that the Defense Intelligence
Agency acknowledges.
One type may be used
to slow down light.
And even bring light to
a complete standstill.
Another may induce invisibility by
manipulating refraction, reflectivity,
and increasing light absorption.
Meta materials allow
you to, in principle,
make objects invisible. In
principle, allow you to stop light.
In principle, allow
you to magnify things
beyond what we can do with
present day technology.
We can do that in
the microwave range.
We have not yet done it in
the optical frequencies.
Another has the interesting
ability to compress
electromagnetic energy.
Things that we would
consider impossible
would become child's play
if you have a technology that is
centuries more advanced than us.
Still another exhibits a
particular tunable resonance,
which was likely determined
during fabrication.
You see, if these objects
come from a civilization
more advanced than ours,
they have mastered the art
of manipulating
individual atoms.
The reports on these materials
have something in common.
They all talk about what
the materials might do,
and their possible uses.
This seems to be an
indirect confirmation
that we didn't create them, and
we're not sure what they do.
And they have to be
analyzed on several levels.
First, they have to be
analyzed spectroscopically.
So we know what they're made of.
So let's say that there
is... There are materials
that some other
civilization has created
and that they have
atomic grade printing
that we don't have today,
the only way to understand it is
to de-assemble it atom by atom.
Dr. Gary Nolan is a scientist
at Stanford University.
He publicly stated that a new
technique for mass spectrometry,
that he developed
attracted the attention
of those in possession
of UFO materials.
Well, there is one technology
that's in my lab called
Secondary Ion Mass Spec,
and we developed a company around
it and the technology for using it
to read biopsy material
from patients, right?
And we had a way of
labeling the biopsies
with metal tags delivered via antibodies,
and that would light up the tissue
in a way that would tell you something
about the distribution of those proteins
in cancer cells and
immune system cells.
That's a very successful
technology that's worked very well.
It turns out that it was
tuned to look at metals...
right, because we were
using the metal tags
and so when in discussions
with Jacques and others,
that they said they had
these pieces of metal.
Well, I have an instrument
that's perfectly tuned
to look at metals,
so let's do it.
But what that stuff consisted of
and why they think it's off-planet,
and, you know, what the
testing showed about
the possibility that nothing
like that could appear on Earth.
That's all stuff we were
not able to get access to.
We don't know.
Upon release of
the FOIA request,
there was evidence of internal commotion
inside the DIA and the Pentagon.
You know, the powers that be...
I mean, there are such people.
I think they realized
"All right. You just went, you went
actually, as far as you can go,
"and in fact, you
went a little too far.
"We're going to dial it back."
Susan Gough, a
Pentagon spokesperson,
said that although she was aware
of the social media chatter, the
information provided by the DIA
actually relates in some way
to an advanced weapons program
and not UFO items.
But if you start with
different assumptions
about how something
might operate,
you can come up with
things that another
equally advanced civilization, America,
let's say, or Western civilization,
doesn't understand how it works.
But that doesn't mean
it came from E.T.
But I suspect that
Freedom of Information Act
is talking about something
a little different.
Some of the main players
in the material story
were making new statements that
changed previously reported facts.
Right. This is a counter...
This is The Empire Strikes Back.
This is what we're seeing. You're
seeing the major establishment,
which was on the back
foot for over three years
because of the offensive
of the UFO faction.
They were on retreat. They've
gathered their resources.
They're like, you know,
"We don't really want...
"We can't go any farther
than we've gone."
Harry Reid walked it back as
far as with The New York Times
about Lockheed having artifacts
and so, they get these phone calls.
I mean, why else...
You know, catch yourself
after the fact and go,
"I should have never said that."
And there's a pattern here.
It always pertains
to physical evidence.
And in our New York Times story,
we said that a hangar was built
to contain materials, okay.
We didn't say that materials were
obtained and put in the hangar.
You did an interview
with Jesse Michaels.
- In that interview, you laid out some of the materials.
- Mmm-hmm.
Very excitingly,
we have parts...
Okay, the parts were a little
anti-climactic and small,
but he claims to have much
bigger parts that we can't see
due to national
security sensitivities.
But then when you did
the interview with Lex,
you said that she had materials
just from, like, Jacques Vilet
which obviously
wouldn't be classified,
and from TTSA, which
wouldn't be classified.
There's two classes of materials
that I've been given by people,
and they're not given by, like,
the government or anything.
So have you studied
classified materials,
but you just don't have them?
I just shouldn't
say anything more.
You shouldn't say
anything about that.
Okay, all right.
You can put that on there. I
just can't say anything more.
Right. No, that's fine.
It might have been an
accidental truth moment.
FOIA responses are based on
reacting to very specific wording.
The FOIA response from the
DIA specifically refers
to recovered materials from UFOs
being studied at Bigelow Aerospace.
This is official confirmation that
these studies indeed occurred.
Bigelow Aerospace is massive.
It's surrounded on most sides
by these gigantic vacant lots.
It's surrounded by multiple layers
of fencing, including barbed wire,
video surveillance, 24-hour
security guards everywhere.
This place is a fortress.
Multiple reports also seemed to confirm
the presence of materials at the facility.
But after the release of the
documents, the story changed.
For years, one of the secret
studies was carried out by BAASS,
a Las Vegas operation hidden
within Bigelow Aerospace.
Documents first reported by
the I-Team show that BAASS
landed a contract with the
DIA, and one of the objectives
was to study so
called meta materials.
Multiple sources
have confirmed to us
there was a weird piece of
something at the Bigelow plant.
New York Times reported that
you modified your facility here
in order to house some
material from somewhere else.
Did you ever have it?
- Never had any.
- Did you ever see it?
Um...
But... I... you
know, do you see...
Do you see...
It's the old Raiders of the
Lost Ark warehouse scene.
"We've got our top
people working on it."
"Who are your top people?"
"Oh, they're top."
In March 2022, the Defense
Intelligence Agency
responded to another FOIA
request that demanded information
about the work of AATIP
and its previous versions.
The result was 1500 pages that
included 38 independent papers
about potential
advanced technology.
The authors of some of these
reports, are many of the same people
that have been involved
in secret UFO programs
all the way back
to the late 1960s.
These reports came in the form of
defense intelligence reference documents.
Some of the technologies
that were explored
include advanced
nuclear propulsion,
for manned deep space missions.
Aneutronic Fusion Propulsion,
Pulsed High-Power
Microwave Technology,
Antigravity for
Aerospace Applications.
I think when talking about
extraterrestrial civilizations,
we have to be open to the
fact that their technology
is thousands of years more
advanced than our technology.
But then the question is,
is it possible that we,
that we humans can also partake of
some of these advanced technologies?
Space-Communication Implications
of Quantum Entanglement
and Nonlocality, High-Frequency
Gravitational Wave Communications.
I take two objects,
two particles that are
quantumly entangled,
and if I do something to
this one, this one responds.
And if you separate
those two by a foot...
when I do something here,
something happens here.
But something even
more magical happens
that when I take these objects,
and I put them one here
and one at the farthest end
of the visible universe,
that direction, 13.5
billion light years,
and I take the other particle,
I put it in that direction,
13.5 billion light years away,
when I do this,
this one responds
instantaneously.
- Traversable Wormholes, -
Stargates and Negative Energy.
Special relativity says you
cannot break the light barrier.
But special relativity
has a loophole.
The loophole is
general relativity,
the theory of gravity,
whereby you can bend time
and space into a pretzel
if you have enough
matter and energy.
An energy which we won't have, perhaps
for another 100,000 to one million years.
So it's not for us.
Perhaps for an
extraterrestrial civilization,
but it's not for us.
Warp Drive, Dark Energy
and the manipulation
of extra dimensions.
We have to be open to the possibility
that there are other dimensions,
and shortcuts.
Perhaps shortcuts between
different universes.
Now, of course, moving through
these higher dimensions,
would require a technology
much more advanced
than anything we have.
Concepts for extracting energy
from the quantum vacuum.
You would have to be a
very advanced civilization
to get net usable
energy from nothing.
In other words, it's not for us.
That doesn't mean an advanced
civilization can't do it.
Quantum computing, and
utilizing organic molecules
in automation technology.
Technological approaches to
controlling external devices,
in the absence of limb
operated interfaces.
Our most advanced understanding
of the brain comes from BCI,
Brain Computer Interface.
We can take a chip, put it
on the surface of the brain,
have that chip connected
to a laptop computer
that then analyzes the impulses
of the brain and deciphers it,
and then uses it to
control something.
And so you can imagine
what we can do today
and then extrapolate
to the future.
Aerospace applications
of programmable matter.
If you could design
something, atom by atom,
and position things
atom by atom,
then there's a lot more we
could do with material science
than we can do today.
Ultra capacitors as energy
and power storage devices.
Role of superconductors
in gravity research.
Most of what we create today,
in even the superconductor areas
is basically recipes.
They are not designs.
Many of these technologies are
beyond the realm of current science.
These technologies are discussed
as if someone knows that
they are entirely possible,
even in some stage of
successful development.
I will tell you unequivocally
if a man like Robert Bigelow
were to ask you, to come on
board and to do something,
man, I would do it in
the blink of an eye.
It would be almost reflexive.
When do we start? Let's go.
He's a good man, and
he's also a patriot.
Machinery really does exist.
Does exist.
That the problem has been the
inability to back engineer
and I kind of think that some...
Some things require a
weightless environment.
It is generally accepted
that the New Narrative
broke in late 2017.
It was actually Robert Bigelow,
who made spellbinding revelations
before anybody knew that he was
involved in government contracts
to study UFOs.
Do you believe in aliens?
I am absolutely convinced.
That's all there is to it.
Do you also believe that
UFOs have come to Earth?
There has been, and is an existing
presence an E.T. presence.
You have the interview that
Robert Bigelow did on 60 Minutes.
Really, an amazing interview.
This is one of the most
knowledgeable people on this planet,
in my view, on the
subject of UFOs,
He's also a billionaire, and he's also
got a lot of influence in this world.
And here he is saying,
aliens are real
and indeed they are
actually walking among us.
His unshakable statement
regarding the reality
of an extraterrestrial presence,
drew some media reaction.
Its significance
did not become clear
until the story of
Bigelow Aerospace
and its role in AATIP
began to unfold.
The New York Times came out with a couple
of articles essentially downplaying any E.T.
component of these sightings,
but also playing down the fact
that they may be Russian or Chinese
and also playing down the fact that these
are advanced U.S. classified prototypes.
If they're going to play
all of those things down,
then I would ask, what gets played
up? Because there is nothing left.
Confronted with the challenge
of weaving Robert Bigelow's
informed beliefs
into the story Chris
Mellon had revealed,
-Mellon said this,
-There aren't many people
associated with the
establishment who are so bold
and willing to make
statements like that.
Many of the Navy pilots themselves
who've engaged these crafts
go there because they can't conceive
of any other explanation, frankly.
When Lue Elizondo was asked
about Bigelow statements,
his response corroborated
Bigelow's position.
He has his own space
stations in space.
People say "What do you mean?"
Yeah, he has his own,
right now, in space.
I mean, I don't know who else
has done that, and by the way,
he's done it for a long time,
so give the guy some credit.
He knows what he's
talking about.
They have stated flatly
"They're not one of ours."
Then the question
is, whose are they?
All of the people involved
in the current narrative
are deliberately stopping short
of identifying the phenomenon as
originating from extraterrestrials.
We have all these tales going
back centuries, millennia,
about visitations
and strange beings.
Maybe it's a record of visits
from alien civilizations.
You can't rule out the fact that, yeah,
maybe we have been visited in the past.
You can't rule it out.
So you say one by one,
they're not natural phenomena.
They're not weather balloons.
They're not U.S. technology.
They're not Russian.
They're not Chinese.
They're not optical illusions.
They're not mental illness on the
part of the people who report them.
Because these are our most
highly trained experts
who are reporting these things,
and they've been caught on,
as I said, Navy instrumentation.
So what are you left with?
Well, no one is going there.
Our view is, let's follow
the trail wherever it leads.
Let's get the data,
the best evidence possible.
There's probably more than
one phenomenon at work here.
They refused to
say the "A" word.
Alien. Why?
You know, assuming that these
things are all of alien origin...
for a variety reasons, in
part because people shut down
and it impedes our progress
and some of the allies
and people that we
need to bring to bear,
who are sort of now
getting on board,
wouldn't do so if we started with
the premise that these are aliens.
I think the word
alien is a little...
People are afraid
of the word alien.
You know, E.T,
extraterrestrial, non-humans.
I've always concerned about
getting ahead of our
headlights, frankly,
and leaping to conclusions.
For me, it's more of
the thrill of the hunt.
It's trying to figure
out the unknowns
because once they are known,
they are no longer a mystery.
What it is, no
one's admitted yet.
And you've got plenty
of video evidence
of Lue and Chris not admitting
it because they can't say it.
But they've said it in
as many ways as you can.
Just anybody bright
enough to listen,
will, as you say, understand
the accidental truth.
During the interview in 2018, Lue
Elizondo gave us an accidental truth.
So, you've spoken about
some of the technologies
that are being studied as
a spin off the research
you did at AATIP.
Things like bending space-time, and
Einstein type possibilities that may unfold.
Is there an interdimensional
element to any of this
that you guys maybe explored?
Other dimensions may
absolutely exist.
You look at String
Theory, look at M Theory,
dimensions are all around us.
So I think you have to cast a wide
net when you're looking at this.
And that's why I've said before,
whether they're from outer space,
inner space or the
space in between,
we just don't know, and we
need to collect more data.
Is it possible?
Absolutely, it's possible.
Is it possible that they're
from the Pleiades? Sure.
Is it possible that
they're from...
They've been here all along
and they're from here,
they're just resonating
at a different vibration?
Sure.
It seems like the only
question that is answered
in the ones you just posed,
is that whether or not,
there is an actual "They."
That's a great question.
I don't know if I
can answer that.
A few seem willing to officially
pronounce the phenomenon
as originating from
extraterrestrials.
There is a
willingness to concede
that there might be
extraterrestrial involvement.
You know, what's here
is probably just an A.I.
I mean, why spend all your
time on one little planet
out in a dust speck at
the edge of the galaxy?
You send your robots.
The question is, what's
our definition of life?
I think life may
exist, may exist,
and I'll caveat that,
in all sorts of forms.
I don't think it's
necessarily going to be
something that we might recognize or
even initially even classify as life.
Because we don't have a
full understanding of it.
There is a growing consensus
that the extraterrestrial
hypothesis
doesn't answer all
of the questions.
There are multiple phenomena at work,
that cannot be explained completely
without looking at
other possibilities.
Maybe there's a whole range of
different phenomena at play here.
In fact, I think, given the differences
in what's been reported by people,
that's quite likely that there are many
different parallel strands to this.
But whatever is involved,
and as I say, I don't know,
I think it does raise important defense,
national security and air safety issues.
The E.T. hypothesis, for instance,
is a logical starting point.
If not from here, from where?
Until you start talking about,
well, what do you mean, where?
We think that an object is solid and
can only be one place at the same time.
But in quantum mechanics, electrons
can be two places at the same time.
In fact, they can
be many places,
and this is called
the multiverse idea.
The idea that we exist with
other universes simultaneously.
Well, wait a minute.
We're talking about
multi-dimensional realities.
But doesn't really
matter how far you go
in a three-dimensional
space and distance,
that there are shortcuts,
and those shortcuts exist
as part of the natural universe.
So that is a real world
example where we know
other dimensions may
absolutely exist.
Whether it's extraterrestrial or
interdimensional, to me, is irrelevant
because whatever
it is, clearly has
the ability to manipulate
dimensionality.
These things can jump in
and out, appear, disappear.
And so, for all intents
and purposes, it's both.
In August of 2022, Dr. Hal Puthoff
released a paper in which he explored
other options for
what may be at work.
He presented concepts such
as ultra-terrestrial beings.
The concept that there could be
another intelligent race living with us
inside the Earth or under water.
A civilization with
advanced technology,
that has been here,
long before us.
Time travelers.
While mainstream science debates
the feasibility of time travel,
it still remains a possibility.
Some people say that the
aliens don't come from Mars,
they don't come
from a distant star.
They come from a different time.
Well, I'm open to
all sorts of ideas,
as long as they are testable.
Our notion of time and
space is flawed, seriously.
And you're entering issues where
there is no time and
there is no space.
You've got man-made craft.
You've got possible
extraterrestrial.
You've got interdimensional.
You've got...
Hmm. A pre-existing
high tech civilization
that could have been on this
planet for thousands of years.
And when you wrap
this all together,
you can see how confusing it is
because a lot of these things merge.
Some of the phenomena
seemed to point
to a direct interaction,
with consciousness.
Well, the consciousness is
interacting in all aspects of it.
And to take it a step farther,
going to Max Planck,
suggests that maybe
the physical evolved
from consciousness,
as opposed to the
other way around.
As part of developing
new understandings,
it's hard to ignore the so-called
experience or phenomenon.
A significant percentage
of the population
report having encounters
with non-human beings.
These encounters range from
enlightening to terrifying,
Many, many, many people have had
some very strange experiences.
Either seeing UFOs, and not just
at night while they were dreaming.
These are not nightmares.
These are often described as
more real than everyday reality.
The people who describe
it, these people are solid.
They come from
all walks of life.
Ralph Blumenthal wrote a book about the
late Harvard psychologist John Mack,
called The Believer.
Mack was one of the
first members of academia
to acknowledge the validity of
the experience or phenomenon.
John Mack investigated these stories
of people who said that this and this
happened to them, and at
least Mack, as a psychiatrist,
was able to evaluate
their stories to the...
Couldn't prove that this happened or
didn't happen, but at least could say that
these people were solid people
and were not mentally ill.
We interface with
whatever this is.
Contactees, abductees.
I think we can create some
of the phenomenon itself.
So I do believe that there are
certain individuals on this planet
who are more in tune,
are more intuitive,
are more in touch
with the unseen world
than the seen world.
Some of us are able
to pierce the veil
and connect with whatever
is going on out there.
Stunning new research
by Dr Gary Nolan,
has revealed a trait
in the human brain
that may make some people
more prone to abilities,
such as heightened
intuition, psychic abilities,
and possibly an ability to
communicate in undeveloped manners,
such as telepathy.
We had MRIs of claimed
remote viewers,
high-end remote viewers,
and this area of their brain
lit up like a Christmas tree.
The condition has been observed
in so-called "Experiencers."
Nolan has detected increased
activity and development
in a region of the brain
called the basal ganglia.
The thing that got
me really intrigued
was that we did have
MRIs from experiencers,
but these were high functioning
individuals that we happened to notice
that an area of their
brain, had a density in it
that we first thought was damaged because
we were studying damage at the moment.
But then we realized, this is not
damaged. This is living tissue.
And that became sort
of a side discovery.
You're left then with,
frankly, what was
an even less uniform
group of individuals
with such varied interactions.
Things that we're talking to them,
things that they had gotten close
to and had been damaged and harmed.
And there were a couple of people
in that group who were harmed.
But of the remaining
individuals,
I would say that the majority
of them were not harmed.
This area of the brain, that we
came to the conclusion at the time
was probably involved
in intuition,
when we actually looked into it,
and then looked
into the literature,
believe it or not,
people were finding that
it had something to
do with intuition.
And that's the basal ganglia.
This area, the caudate putamen,
which is, you know, by
many neurophysiologist
called the brain
within the brain.
What Dr. Nolan has discovered
may represent a leap
in human evolution
or even a new variation
of h*m* sapien.
You have to ask the question
"What kind of information
"is being perceived and how
is it being translated into,
"let's say, traditional
neuro-physiologic pathways?"
We don't understand...
space time the way we'd
like to pretend we do.
And so, who is to say that there is
not some kind of information transfer
that we just don't
necessarily yet appreciate,
but evolution has found
a way to latch onto.
The people that
we've met since 2017
seemed to have some
genuine interest
in helping to make humanity
more aware of these realities.
Chris Mellon continues to
work quietly behind the scenes
to bring about an effective
means of disclosure.
Very much changing
within the government,
on the Hill and the
executive branch,
as well as you can see
with the media lately.
It's becoming respectable
and legitimate,
and that's so crucial to engaging
more minds and more energy,
and more resources to getting
to the bottom of this.
Lue Elizondo seems to have put
everything on the line
since going public.
So if there's an issue where the government
is doing something we don't want to
then it's up to us as a
people to change that.
But it doesn't have to be
an adversarial relationship.
I think where we go wrong is that people
often times look at the government, they say,
"Oh, the government's bad,
the government's bad."
His role in AATIP has been challenged
by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
Lue fought back by hiring
one of the most effective
and well known civil rights attorneys
in the field, Danny Sheehan.
I was contacted by Lue Elizondo
and asked to represent him
because he was upset
about the fact that the Pentagon
even after the
publication of this
on December 16th
and 17th of 2017,
there were officials inside the Pentagon
issuing completely false statements,
still, saying, "Yeah,
there's no such thing
"as the Advanced Aerospace
Identification Program."
Together, they approached
the Inspector General
of the Defense
Intelligence Agency
to reverse the Pentagon's failure
to acknowledge Elizondo's position.
When Elizondo started, talking
about this phenomenon publicly,
you can see the Pentagon had
tremendous pushback against him.
They lied.
They said "No, he didn't
run such a program."
That was a lie.
They said AATIP had
nothing to do with UFOs.
- That was a lie.
- We were trying at the same time,
trying to determine
what Lue can say
in light of his security
clearances, you know, publicly.
Not long ago, Elizondo
supposedly said to his attorney
that he had seen a flying
saucer in a hanger.
That gets out and the
stuff hits the fan.
And, you know, Lue had
to walk that back too.
What did he do? He
said, "Well, you know,
"I went to a hangar
that was designed
"to accommodate exotic materials,
but I didn't see anything there.
"I never saw any intact craft."
He was like, very lawyerly
in how he said what he
did because he had to.
I guess I'm just genetically
pre-disposed to not trusting government
and seeing it now,
too, it's just a joke.
It really is.
MUFON, The Mutual UFO Network
is the largest and oldest UFO
organization in the world.
After over 50 years, MUFON
is stronger than ever.
I'm Ron James. It's
March 11th 2022.
I'm here in front
of the White House.
It's been a historic week for
the UFO community and for MUFON,
the Mutual UFO Network.
We have actually been taking
meetings all week long
with key members and staff of the House
and Senate intelligence committees
regarding the UAP phenomenon.
We've been here for three
days now, four days,
and have met with about
10 different officials,
congressmen, representatives
staff and senators,
and we've really had
a tremendous welcome.
Thousands of people
over 100 years or more,
have challenged the official
deception around the UFO topic.
They have been
ridiculed and debunked.
Today, they are beginning
to be vindicated,
but still have not
accomplished their goal.
A total end to the UFO cover-up.
There is no way to inform the
American people writ large,
all 500 million of us, and
ensure that information
is not going to get into the
hands of a foreign adversary.
Maybe it's that there
are some elements
of the technology that
has to be kept under wraps
or kept to a limited
number of people because
if you cross the wires,
bad things happen.
This is a version of disclosure.
But is it going to
be the real truth?
And, I mean, I don't care
about anything except
what the actual truth is.
So, we'll see if
they can get there.
They could say, for
example, down the road,
"Well, actually, yeah. We have
had a few reports down the road,
"over the years, but we
kept it quiet because,
"honestly, we needed
to avoid public panic."
They'll say that.
At a societal level, I believe
that we are completely ready
to incorporate this new reality,
and if the President
were to go on
the evening news today and
say, "My fellow Americans,
"people of the world,
we're not alone,"
I think the reaction
would be sorta two-fold.
Obviously, there would
be a huge interest in it,
but actually there wouldn't
be panic in the streets.
So to be part of that journey,
to uncover and to show links
to this advanced civilization,
that would be a great honor,
because as a scientist,
you go where the data takes you.
And sometimes the data takes you
to places that are uncomfortable.
But, hey, that's the
way the cookie crumbles.
Yeah, I just... You know,
I'm going to get hit on it.
They told me. They said, "Man, Burchett
you need to cool this stuff out
"because it's gonna hurt us
at the polls." But we'll see.
We've shown that even today
there is a narrative at work
that has been created to manipulate
public perception about the UFO topic.
We are not alone
in the universe.
There are those who have struggled
to keep this truth a secret.
But the proof of the deception
serves its own purpose
and tells us much
more than ever before.
I have good news
and I have bad news.
And the good news is the government's
been telling you the truth.
The bad news is the government's
been telling you the truth.
I mean, just look at Roswell.
There are no 509th b*mb
group members left.
They're all dead.
So according to the government,
it's cover up complete.
All right, then what did I
see out there in that field?
Oh, that...
Why, that was a weather balloon.
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