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06x03 - Episode 3

Episode transcripts for the 2015 TV show "Unforgotten". Aired October 2015 to current*
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"Unforgotten" begins with a skeleton being found in the cellar of a building being demolished prompting a police investigation spanning back 39 years.

06x03 - Episode 3

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I was just calling to see
if maybe we could meet up,

just the two of us, to talk?

Mr Cooper was also
the victim of an as*ault

three weeks before he disappeared.

I told them I thought
his death had probably been violent

- because of the money.
- Why would we have him k*lled?

Dead man don't pay debts.

Reckon it was committed by a lad

that Cooper employed the previous
year but who'd not got furlough.

Hello, Marty, how are we today?

I'm not sure Mum's being looked
after as well as she needs, Marty.

I'd like to speak to social services.

I can't leave him on his own.

I'd ask how happy she was, knowing
that he was with another woman.

What other woman?

If you say anything to anyone
that brings people to my door,

you will regret it.

He didn't have
the name of the employee, but...

Fran found one of the old bar staff,

so that might throw something up.

OK, well, I'm at the widow's now,
so I'll ask her as well.

PHONE BEEPS
Yeah, cool, speak later.

- Leanne, what's up?
- Massive breakthrough.

- What?
- I've found a pub in King's Cross

where you can actually hear
yourself talk.

Game-changing.
CHUCKLES

I'm a great team player
who enjoys meeting new challenges

on a daily basis.

And I'm a great team player
who enjoys meeting new challenges

on a daily basis.

And so basically,
there's pretty good evidence

to suggest the money was paid back.

What evidence?

A cash deposit in Markaj's account

eight days
before your husband went missing.

- Right.
- Now, obviously we will check that,

but for now, we're pretty satisfied

that Mr Markaj isn't
a person of interest.

Getting a strong sense of deja vu here.

One thing Sidhu did consider
was the possibility

the attack outside the pub was
committed by a disgruntled employee.

Which employee?

Some lad
who hadn't been given furlough.

- I don't know anything about that.
- No?

Sorry.

OK, erm...
CLEARS THROAT

..and then lastly, can I just ask you

if you ever thought your husband
might have been having an affair?

What the f*ck sort of question's that?

Sorry,
it came out of the Markaj interview.

He said he saw him in his car
with another woman.

I'm sure he did.

- No, I didn't.
- No suspicions at all?

- No. Never.
- OK.

Thanks very much for your time, Juliet.

DOOR SLAMS

Er, I-I think I might postpone tonight.

- Was he?
- Sorry?

- Having an affair.
- No.

Absolutely not. Jesus,
you weren't meant to hear that.

No... he wasn't.

Did you hear what I said
about the therapy session?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm just not
in the right headspace today.

What about me?

You've resisted this for three years,

and now you can't wait a few days?

It's different now, though, isn't it?

Stuff's coming out.

I'll pick you up at seven.

PHONE RINGS

- Paul.
- Jules.

Just wondering whether you'd
reconsidered what we discussed.

Fine, I'll meet them.

Police have today identified
the remains found


in Whitney Marsh last week

as belonging to Bow Publican
Gerard Cooper.


Mr Cooper, who was 54 years old
at the time of his disappearance,


was reported missing in February 2021.

Following the gruesome discovery
on Sunday morning,


police have now launched
a m*rder investigation


and have appealed for anyone with
any information to come forward.


ASIF SPEAKING
OWN LANGUAGE:

HASSAN SPEAKING
OWN LANGUAGE:

ASIF:

THEY LAUGH

You know, the first time I saw the
sea was in Calais with my brother.

We'd originally planned to cross
in September, but...

..it ended up taking us seven months
to get to France.

Rather than wait for spring,

we decided to take a cheaper place
in January.



..in a boat designed for 12.



The water started coming in
after about an hour.

We rang the coastguard, but they
said we were still in French waters.

I told them
there were children on board, but...

And then a wave tipped us over.

GULLS CRY

No-one tells you about the cold,
Hassan.

Sucks the air right out of your lungs.

Can't even scream.

We got picked up by the UK coastguard

maybe 40 minutes later.



The others they found the next day.

My brother and one of the kids
didn't wash up for a week.

- Fab, thank you.
- Good luck.

KAZ LAUGHS
Thanks.

FRAN: So, how long did you work
for him?

Nearly four years, total,

although one year of that was the
first year of the pandemic, so...

And you got furloughed?

I did. Generally speaking,
was he a good employer?

He was, yeah.

- Little pause there.
- No, just, er...

He was a... an old white guy, you know.

A little... unreconstructed.

But I'm nit-picking. He was a nice guy.

OK. And did you know his wife?

A bit, they lived above the pub,

so, yeah, I got to know
her and Taylor a bit.

And you got on with Juliet OK?

I'm not sure she was in love
with the idea of him running a pub,

but... yeah, we got on fine.

So did they get on all right?

I'd say not brilliantly,
from what I saw.

- In what way?
- She could be quite

dismissive of him, like she thought
he was a bit...

- stupid.
- Right.

So did they row, or...?

I mean, not at the pub, no,
but a few times, when it was quiet,

or before we were open,

I heard them going at each other
through the ceiling.

Oh, OK.

So, your other colleagues there,
the other staff,

did any of them ever fall out with him?

No, not really, until lockdown.

Yes, right, so this is the guy
who didn't get furloughed?

Yes.

- What was his name?
- Martin.

Or we called him Marty. Marty Baines.

MAN: Most men with the same injury
as Patrick's can't ej*cul*te, no.

But as I'm sure
you've heard said many times,

- every case is unique.
- Yes.

And if you were...

thinking of starting a family, there is
of course sperm harvesting, and...

That's fine, that's...
that's all I needed to know.

Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you.

MACHINE BEEPS

Sorry.

Sorry, "Baines" you said?

Yeah, Martin or Marty.

Do we have an address?

She reckoned he moved back
to his parents in Kent somewhere

shortly after Cooper disappeared.

- How shortly?
- A week or so later.

Well, the wife's dropping
over a load of PAYE records later.

- There might be an address in there.
- I'll get Kaz on it.

So, your witness was basically
saying the same as Ram Sidhu?

Yeah, that Cooper and this Marty
had fallen out,

she reckoned about furlough.

Now, did she actually witness a row?

She said SHE didn't, but one
of her co-workers, a lady called...

Brianna West, who's now travelling,

did see him get physical with Cooper.

She saw him slam Cooper
up against a wall.

- And when was this?
- February, 2021.

- Wow.
- I've messaged Brianna,

but no idea whether she'll get it,
though.

- OK.
- It's also worth mentioning

she thought this lad had some kind
of disability, her guess was ASD.

Has Murray got
the original as*ault files back yet?

- Coming later this afternoon apparently.
- OK.

I also mentioned a possible
girlfriend to the wife this morning.

- And?
- Yeah, she didn't like it,

which makes me think
your man Markaj was on the money.

Any of the people that
your team spoke to this morning

hint at another woman?

I haven't gone through it all.
I'll check.

Because a row that got out of hand
about infidelity...

is just about the oldest motive
for m*rder there is.

ASIF: You see, men like you and me...

...we don't do well
in detention centres.

I got assaulted so many times, Hass...

...without any intervention
from the authorities.

So, yes, as long
as I pass my citizenship test,

I'll have a passport and a legal
right to settle and work here.

SAM: Hiya! Oh.

Wow... Hassan...

Hello, Sam.

You're a week early. Yeah, no, the...

..the exercise got snowed off.

Sorry, does somebody wanna tell me
what the f*ck is going on?

SAM, SHOUTING: You know,

what's more upsetting
than what you've actually done

is the fact that
you've obviously been planning this

for months behind my back.

Yes.

He says unapologetically.

Well, if you'd come back
when you said you were coming back,

you would never have known,

so what was the point
in telling you something

that I knew you'd stop me doing?

All right, so you think
the only problem here

is that you got found out.

Don't... speak to me like
I'm one of your f*cking squaddies.

Don't you dare...

speak to me like you think you have
some natural authority over me.

Please, don't speak to me
like I've done something wrong.

All I have done is walk into MY house,

and I've found
an ill*gal immigrant living here.

- Our friend Hassan, you mean?
- Yeah, our friend Hassan, sorry.

How many times?

It's not ill*gal
for someone seeking asylum

to cross the Channel
however they want to.

Yes, I know, I know.

I know!

EXHALES

Obviously...

..it's terrible...

that he had to do that,

and I'm sorry if I sound
unsympathetic right now, Asif.

But whether you like it or not,

until he does formally seek asylum,
he is here illegally.

How did he get here... specifically?

In a lorry.

- Which you paid for?
- Yes.

And I owe him much more than that.

As do you, actually, Sam,

considering he saved both our lives,
or... or have you forgotten that?

No, of course I've not forgotten that.

Well, what's his plan now?

He's going to stay with Omar
from Friday

whilst we get him documents,

and then he will live his life
in the UK.

- ill*gal documents, you mean.
- Yeah.

I-I can't be here, Sif, with him.

If anyone found us, I...

EXHALES
Er...

I... Yeah, I'll kip at my sister's
tonight, but, erm...

..he needs to be gone by tomorrow.

DOREEN: Mum's looked after you
all of her life, Marty,

so it's a massive change for you
to suddenly have to look after her

And this is absolutely not your fault.

It's been a massive change, Doreen.

As I said, none of this
will have to be permanent,

if we can get you up and walking, Dot,

then hopefully,
we can get you back home asap.

And what about me?

Well, I'll also be recommending some
help for you, either here at home,

or in some form of supported
accommodation, how does that sound?

I live here with Mum.

- It's a lot to grasp, isn't it?
- It is a lot to grasp.

Listen, none of this
will have to be immediate.

These things do take a while,
so we'll keep talking,

and if you have any worries,
just call, yeah?

And often, I find it helpful
to ask clients

what it is they hope
to get out of this?

Maybe I could ask you first, Juliet,

what it is that you'd like to achieve?

Er... I...

I guess I'd like Taylor to be happier.

I mean, I know
I'm not really meant to say that.

Say what?

That I just want her to be happy...

..cos actually that's, erm...

..that's a pretty big ask.

So, I guess...

..I want her to be able to cope...

with school, with me...

with the future.

Well, yeah, coping's a good aspiration.

And what do you want for yourself?

The same.

But... you know...

if... if she's OK...

then I kind of would be.

OK. Thank you.

And, Taylor...
what would you like out of all this?

Honesty.

I just want some real honesty
between us.

- Hey.
- Hi!

This is the plan to take us over, man,

this is the Protocol
of the Elders of Zion.


What about Blair? What about
Zelenskyy? What about Stoltenberg?


When will they arrest
THOSE sons of b*tches?


He knew they'd try to shut him down.

They did the same with Fox.
They won't let him speak the truth.


So now finally they admit
it was a bio leak...


Marty?

..how soon before they admit this was

- population control?
- Marty?


Marty, are you all right?

Marty, what you doing? Marty?

I mean, you know
it's got everyone there, innit?


He's royalty as well.

Well, obviously,
they'd have been happier

if I'd been a doctor
or a lawyer or a...

or a Prime Minister.

Thanks, Rishi, for that.

But, yeah, I think
they'd've been proud of me, yeah.

What about your mum and dad?

Would you rather fight
one wolf-sized chicken

or four chicken-sized wolves?

Sorry, I haven't had anyone
round for...

..well, forever, actually.

Would you like a cup of tea or coffee?

Although I don't have any milk.

Why don't you...
Why don't you nip out and...

and get some, and...

I'll make a start on the dishes.

Sorry.

And I get so fed up
of people feeling sorry for me.

It's great, being single.
I have a lovely life.

I have freedom, money,

great friends,
fabulous nieces and nephews...

- so, yeah.
- Yeah.

To singletons! To singletons!

And are things improving, or...

Well... I've started some new meds,

and they do... seem to work better
than the last ones, so...

And do you need anything?

Money? A cleaner? Anything?

I'm good, but thank you.

So...

..the reason, erm...

..the reason I wanted to meet up
was to see if we could...

..move forward.

- Yes.
- You know, cos...

you are my sister...

..and I do love you.

And I love you too... so much.

Except I'm not sure
that I can move forward

until I know for sure that you're
been completely truthful with me.

- And I wanna be.
- OK, so...

did Mum tell you what Steve said...

about you and him when I confronted
him with what you told me?

Yes.

That you'd lied to me
about sleeping with him for...

I mean, for reasons
I still don't fully understand,

but that it was just kiss.

And it was just some kind
of weird... emotional thing?

- Yes.
- And was that true?

I don't know what to say, Jessie.

I don't know what to say that
will best allow you to forgive me.

Just... the truth, Debs.

That's all.

The truth is it was some weird
kind of emotional thing.

I was pretty lost, and...

..he seemed to be also, and he...

seemed vulnerable.

And like he wanted to help me too,
and we just...

..connected for a few months.

But it wasn't just a kiss.

We did sleep together...

..like I said in the pub.

And actually,
it was more than just once.

EXHALES

DEBBIE SOBS

Thank you.

Thank you.

- I'm gonna walk.
- I'm tubing it.

Well, sorry to have...
got you twatted, but, erm...

..that was a really lovely evening,
so thank you.

Well, thank you.

I'd sort of forgotten what it was
like to have such a good laugh.

We aim to please.

LEANNE LAUGHS

CAR HORN BEEPS

- Sorry.
- Oh, no, no, no, it's just, I...

- Night, dollface.
- Leanne?

Hi, Mum, it's me.

Look, I was just wondering
if you could come over this evening?

Sure, gimme a call. OK, thanks, bye.

Hey, Leanne, it's Sunny.
That was a great night last night.

If you fancy grabbing a bite
on Friday, then gimme a call.

Bye. Jess?

Hey, Sunny.

- Hey.
- How are you?

- Yeah, good, how are you?
- Oh, you know.

FRAN: So, there was a bloke
from yesterday

who'd known Gerry since they were kids,

and he'd said in passing

that Gerry was always
"a bit of a rascal".

I mean, what does that mean?

Well, yeah, I rang him back to ask,

and basically, he told me that
a few months before he disappeared,

he'd seen him with another woman.

Wow, OK, where?

In a pub they used to drink in
as kids in Aldgate.

He said he'd introduced her
to him as Melinda.

- No surname?
- No.

And he thought she was
more than just a friend why?

Because they were on their own
in the corner, all over each other.

And any more specific idea
when this might have happened?

Yes, actually very specific,

because it was the day
after the second lockdown had ended,

and the pubs had just reopened,
so everyone was a bit demob happy.

- Yeah, when was that?
- Third of December, 2020.

Any description of her?



OK, erm... can we put in a request
for Cooper's mobile data?

Calls, texts, and triangulation.

We should try open source socials as
well, and emails while we're at it.

Yeah. See if we can't find out
this woman's full name.

- Boss.
- Kaz?

Yeah, so, PAYE records, year ended '21,

we do have an M Baines.

Two addresses, though, one in Ilford
and then the other in Deal, Kent.

Oh, it'll be the Kent one now

cos we know he moved
back there in March, 2021.

OK, can you ping that
over to me, please?

Mm-hm. Oh, and I have found
three USB sticks for the car park,

just gotta go through the footage.

Good stuff. Murray?

So, Mrs Cooper dropped off
the tenancy documents yesterday.

Good.

But concentrating on
Cooper's as*ault for now,

he said he was hit from behind

and that the assailant
was wearing a hoodie.

Now, two brief bits of CCTV were found

showing a man matching that description

walking away from the direction
of the Three Crowns car park

and in the direction of Bow tube.

- And followed up?
- No.

The footage was timed at 10:33,

which was thought to be half hour
after the attack happened.

- So?
- The thing is...

he was knocked unconscious,
and when his wife found him,

she assumed
the attack had just happened,

when actually he could have been
sparko for half an hour.

Ah, so, in which case,
the timing might fit?

- Yeah, exactly.
- Hm.

- OK, let's see it.
- This is the first one.

- What's he doing with his hand?
- Don't know.

- I thought waving at someone.
- Can we see the next bit?

Sorry, can you play it again?

Is he hailing a cab?

Or is he stimming?

- "Stimming"?
- Yeah.

It's something
that some autistic people do.

I have a cousin who's on the sphere.

It's a sort of repetitive movement
to alleviate stress.

OK, you wanna ping that address
over to me now?

We need to get down to Deal ASAP.

So he put all his properties
through you?

- Yeah.
- And over what time scale was this?

We started letting the first one
in 2014,

and we stopped working with him
in late 2020.

- So six years, give or take.
- Mm.

And within those three properties,
there were 19 rooms,

all needing separate contracts,
quite often, short term,

so it was a very full-on job.

We often spoke several times a week.

- What was he like to work with?
- Oh, he was a nightmare.

Oh. Wasn't expecting that.
In what respect?

He just never wanted to spend
any money on anything.

Amenities, maintenance,
safety regs, anything.

Never mind
the legal issues that caused,

we obviously have
moral and ethical responsibilities.

And so in 2019,
we stopped managing the properties,

just found him tenants.

And after that,
he managed the tenants himself.

Which was also a nightmare
because he was so combative.

- In which way?
- In how he resolved disputes.

Physically intimidating,
verbally aggressive.

Look, meaning in the end,
we terminated our agreement with him

in September, 2020.

OK. Now, where there any particular
disputes you can recall,

say in 2020, that might have
properly boiled over?

I'd have to go back over emails
and records for specifics,

but... generally speaking,
yeah, yeah, several.

If you could, that'd be really useful.

No worries.

Erm...

what kind of people were his tenants?

They were
almost exclusively asylum seekers,

I think he had a deal with the council.

No doubt they presented
some challenges, but...

everyone deserves
to live safely, right?

DS Boulting...

..there was one case
that you should follow up.

There was an Afghan family who had
a long-running dispute with him,

really boiled over.

I'll look for the files now,

but you should start with the guy
that interpreted for them.

Lovely fella, Asif.

I am in no-one's debt.

And I am sick of being made to feel
like I should be grateful.

No-one is saying that.
ASIF SCOFFS

It's right there in your reaction
to what I did, Sam.

That I had the... temerity to bring
Hassan over here,

to try and get him settled illegally.

But that... that...
that isn't why I was angry.

Look, I was angry because...

I mean...
I mean, did it never occur to you

what the implications
of what you were doing were for me?

As far as I can tell, you're fine,

on account of your government
not wanting to execute you

for being g*y.

OK, that...

that is my house... Asif...

which makes me party to a criminal act.

I could lose my whole career
if Hassan was found there.

Interesting take.

Yeah, you know what?
They'd also probably charge you.

Which would mean
the end of your citizenship test,

the end of you being able to stay
here, and the end of us.

Look, no-one is more ashamed
of the government than I am

for what they did to you.

I just... I don't see
how this makes things any better.

It makes it better for him, Sam.

Yeah, but at great risk to us.

If Hass hadn't have got out,
the Taliban would have k*lled him...

just like they would have k*lled me.

So, I'm sorry, but I feel no guilt
in spitting in your system's face.

They did it to me first.

- Dead?
- I'm so sorry to be the bearer of...

- Well, it wasn't Martin.
- Mum...

- It wasn't Martin, cos he was...
- I said shut up, noisy b*tch.

I don't wanna talk here.

Hey, Fran, it's me,

we're gonna need an appropriate
adult for this afternoon.

Yeah. Can you do a PCN check for me?

Watch your head. There you go.

Do you drive a car, Marty?

Dad used to let me drive his,
but then we sold it.

"Needed the moolah, me old mucker."

So, my job, Marty,

is to make sure that you're
fully aware of all your rights

and to make sure that
you don't accidentally say something

that gets you into trouble.

- I don't want to get into trouble.
- I don't want you too either.

So should I lie, then?

Well, it's generally better to tell
the truth... don't you think?

So, if I have this right from
my reading of the court transcripts,

Gerry Cooper's
actually an old friend of yours?

- Yeah. Yeah, he was, yeah.
- Can you talk me through that?

Well, we'd known
each other most of our lives.

We went to the same school,

we lived round the corner
from each other.

I drank in his pub.

And the as*ault occurred
at a rally in Westminster square?

- Yeah.
- Had you gone there together?

No, no, we ran into each other
by chance.

What was the rally?

It was the day
of one of the big Brexit votes,

it was March 29th, 2019.

- And you were there...
- I was a remainer.

And Mr Cooper?

- Brexiteer.
- OK.

So you just bumped into each other?

Yeah. Yeah.

- And it was all very friendly at first.
- Mm-hm.

And then we started talking
about the vote,

and, yeah, well, it all got...

really unpleasant really quickly.

We'd both had a few drinks,
so that didn't help, but, erm...

He just made me so angry.

He made you angry, or you got angry?

Yeah, well, yeah, there you go, look,

look, I'm sure
a lot of it was my fault.

In what way?

Well, he had a right to his opinions.

I-I was just too interested in...

in trying to wind him up and mock him.

- So it got heated.
- Yeah. Yeah.

He got angrier and angrier, as did I.

And then he was making some point,

and he sort of prodded me in the chest,

which really wound me up.

So I sort of swiped his hand away...

which is when... he punched me...

in the face...

..very f*cking hard.

PHONE BUZZING

LEANNE: Hi, you've reached Leanne,

please leave a message after the tone.

VOICEMAIL BEEPS

It's me again. Gimme a call.

So, one arrest.

- For?
- Burglary, dwelling, seven years ago.

- OK.
- And obviously, we go gently.

Of course, yeah.

Well, I mean, I knew him less well
in the last ten years or so,

but, erm...

I'd say he increasingly came across
as a bitter man.

Bitter. About what?

How he perceived
life had treated him, I guess.

- Had he not done OK?
- Well, I would have said so, but...

I think he felt he was owed more

and that people like him
had been abandoned, politically.

Right, who do you think
the anger was aimed at?

CHUCKLES
Anyone and everyone.

Big Pharma, phone mast companies,

the Jews, the Arabs, Davos.

Look, it was all pretty rabbit holey.

And then, erm...

then in 2016, he, erm...

he created an online forum
called UK United.

- Oh, right, what was that?
- Well, exactly what it sounds like.

Anti immigration, low-level r*cist wank

about how we needed to get
back to good old days.

UK United?

- Yeah, yeah, that's it.
- Yeah.

LIZ: We need a curriculum
that allows space

for a properly critical understanding

of racism, capitalism, and colonialism

as paradigmatic systems of oppression.

And you giving me that book
suggests you have no desire

to go on that journey.

My giving you that book
was entirely part of that journey.

It was an attempt to allow you

to understand the life of a woman
who, first hand,

had experienced many of the
oppressions you've just described.

The book, maybe, I haven't read it.
You giving it to me, no.

And how's that?

Our reading list
remains achingly white,

so your offer was at best, tokenistic,

and at worst, a deliberate insult.

- An insult to who?
- To all people of colour.

But you're white.
It was a blatant "f*ck you".

Oh, it just wasn't.

You were literally smirking
when you handed it over.

That is just my face.

It angers you
that I have a strong opinion,

so you used the title
as a weapon to anger me.

No, I just wanted you to read it,
you sanctimonious little...

- Juliet...
- No, excuse me, my turn now!

I mean, you are proper smart,

Liz, you are super passionate,

but, please, there are
so many more important things

in this world to get angry about.

Are you seriously telling us
what we can be angry about now?

You know what? I actually am.
I know more sh*t than you.

- You certainly know more sh*t.
- I've lived 37 years more life.

But much more importantly...

..the idea that two white people,

sitting in the lecture hall
of an elite university

discussing the semantic niceties
of the racial lexicon

could in turn meaningfully change
the world somehow

is as absurd as it is
ever-so-slightly repulsive.

Get a f*cking life, Liz.

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Come on, give me my drink.
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Retweeted me!

Marty, can I ask you,

how come you ended up working
in a job that was so far from home?

Dad got me a supported living flat
in Ilford,

then the council put me
on a work scheme,

and because I'm strong,

I got the job at the Three Crowns
lifting and carrying.

- And who gave you that job?
- Mr Cooper.

- Gerry Cooper?
- Yes.

- And when was this?
- 14th of May, 2019, at 17:30.

And how did you get on with Mr Cooper?

Very nicely, thank you.

He was a chatterbox like me,

could talk the hind legs off a donkey.

OK, well, what did you guys
like to talk about?

Er, mainly the world economic forum,

the great replacement theory,
and George Soros.

- And work went well?
- Work went well, yes.

But then the pandemic happened.

- Yes, then the pandemic happened.
- And you were laid off.

- And I was laid off.
- That must have been difficult.

Yes.

Can I ask you, Marty,
were you ever given furlough?

- Yes, I was.
- OK.

Except, we have a note
from a fellow employee

who thinks you weren't.

Gerry applied for it for me
and got the money,

but he never paid me.

- OK, how do you know this?
- My dad found out.

Right,
and did you ask Gerry about this?

Yes, and he said he would pay me,
but he's "temporarily in a pickle,

"short of the readies, mate."

- But he paid you eventually?
- No. No, he never.

Well...

that doesn't sound fair.

- No, it wasn't fair.
- So did that make you a bit angry?

Can you be careful, please, about
putting words into Marty's mouth?

Of course. My apologies, Marty.

How did it make you feel?

- A bit angry.
- OK, can I just...

Do you want to take five minutes,
Marty?

No, thank you, thank you for asking.

- Are you sure?
- Yes, I'm sure.

Just go gently, please.

Of course. Thank you.

So, did you ever argue with Gerry
about the money?

Yes, I did argue with him.

And these were friendly arguments,
or...?

Cross arguments.

OK. Er...

Did it ever get physical?

Are you sure you wouldn't like
to take a break?

Yes, it got physical.

- When did it get physical?
- One time in the pub.

Inside or outside in the pub car park?

- No, inside.
- OK.

- Do you wanna tell us what happened?
- He pushed me...

..and I pushed him back...

up against the wall...

..and then I walked away,
and that's all that happened.

- And that's all?
- Yes, that's all that happened.

You didn't punch him?

Violence is never the answer,
DI Sunil Khan.

No, you're absolutely right there,
Marty,

but can I tell you why I'm asking?

Yes, please.

Because we have CCTV footage of someone

who looks very much like you,

around the time that we know
that Mr Cooper was badly assaulted

walking away from the pub.

Oh, f*ck.

Erm, I-I would like to take my break
now, please,

so that I can get my story straight.

MARTY: This is Marty,
I can't take your call right now.


Please leave a message.

I don't know if they're listening
to this, but...

..don't say anything about Daddy...

..pickle.

Don't say a single word.