01x02 - Part 2

[bunniefuu]

The thing is, Lee's one
of my lifelong friends

and, um, just happens to
be involved in

the largest cash robbery
in the world.

We-we have talked a lot,
a hell of a lot.

I've recorded multiple
conversations with Lee.

Pre-2017, I would say
I spoke to Lee

weeks on the phone.

Everything, really, like just
the normal conversation

you'd have with your mate.

I wanted to document this

so we had an accurate record
of what really happened.

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[Sir John] A robbery
occurred in Kent.

A substantial amount
of money was stolen.

It was all in cash.

This theft

represented the largest amount
ever stolen in this country.

The robbers used hostages

as the means to enter
the depot.

There are few things
more terrifying

than the invasion
of home or workplace

at the dead of night

by men dressed
entirely in black,

whose faces and heads
are covered by masks,

brandishing deadly weapons,

and shouting that you will die

if you do not do
as you are told.

And the motive for this crime?

Pure and simple.

Greed.

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[commentator 1] This is
a bad spot!

[commentator 12] And it's
all over!

It's all over!

Lee Murray by submission!

Whoa!

[Lee Murray] I'll fight anybody.

I don't care who they are,
what they've done

and how many men
they've knocked out.

I couldn't give a sh*t.

Well, his debut in the UFC,
the after-fight,

getting out of the Octagon
after being interviewed,

the buzz in the camp
was unbelievable.

The buzz in the dressing
room was unbelievable.

The-the-the celebration
was brilliant.

He's got to his dream,
his pinnacle.

He was all on cloud nine.

Wow, just amazing to be here.

This is a dream for me.

Waited all my life for this.

Since I started
training five years ago,

this is my goal to get here.

The next goal is the belt.

And whoever gets in
my way with that,

for me to get to that belt

are gonna get knocked out.
[laughter]

Cold. Cold. Hard.

I know that the UFC,
because of that, you know,

emerging European market
for them,

that Lee was, you know,

I'm sure that they
were thinking that

we've got a superstar.

Now we can take this
thing really global.

You know, this guy's-
this guy's really good.

UFC, I believe, did offer him
a three-fight contract, yeah.

But he couldn't get that green
card to get back out there.

That was the problem.

One thing that completely

altered the course of his life
was the road rage incident.

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[Terry] He was going to his
mum's on Christmas Day

with his family.

Siobhan, his first wife, was
pregnant with little Lee.

And Lee had his daughter
in the car, Lilly.

We were going to my nan's house.

She lived in Abbey Wood.

My dad was driving a Range Rover

and my mum was in
the passenger seat

and I was in the back.

The guy chased him
into his mum's road.

Lee pulled over.

Then all I remember is
my dad kind of,

I think someone, they were
just kind of shouting

at another car.

And all of a sudden,

the car had gone back,

reversed.

And then I remember my mum,

so she's opened the door

and there's like a step.

So when she's took the step,

the car's hit back
into our car.

So she's just gone flying
onto her stomach.

And then that's when my dad
just kind of lost it,

because he'd seen my mum
on the floor hurt,

and she's screaming.

And then my dad just said to me,

"Lil, stay in the car.

Don't come out for anything."

And I believe they had to
get the air ambulance down

because the guy apparently
died on the street.

But he did--
they brought him back.

But Lee just was
defending his family.

[Lilly] It was Christmas day

and we were literally just
going to be with our family.

Yeah, it's just crazy
that so quickly,

it was my mum's in hospital

and my dad's in
the police station.

[Nicola] The man that was
ramming into his car,

like, had been in prison
for road rage before.

The guy was a bit of a,
you know, one of these,

get in his car and he
thought he owned the road.

But obviously he done it
with Lee and come unstuck.

[Nicola] The police knew
that he was defending himself

and he was defending
his family.

He was not the aggressor.

But again, painted a
picture to the public

and the court when they
tried to prosecute him

that he was a complete maniac,

a psychopath.

They used that to try
and take him down then.

And they took it all
the way to court,

hiding the fact that this man

had previously been in
prison for road rage.

And then the case collapsed.

[Terry] When it went to court,
he got a hung jury.

They couldn't decide.

Then the prosecution went away

and come back about
five minutes later and said,

"Oh, we're gonna go again."

And even the judge
looked down and he said,

"You're really gonna
go with this again?"

You know, and then three days
later he got-- it got dropped.

But what they then did was,

Lee was applying for a
visa to go to America

and they canceled his visa.

They contacted the
American authorities

and said that Lee was on
bail for attempted m*rder.

He got his visa yanked

and that was the end of
fighting for the UFC.

[Nicola] They took away
his dream.

That was his dream.

He said like, "That
was my one dream,

to get a title shot
and to, you know,

prove myself

and do the thing that I loved

and the thing that I felt
like I was born to do."

[announcer] Representing
London Shootfighters,

he's from Woolwich:

Lightning

Lee

Murray!

[Dave] Cage Rage,
without a doubt,

was the biggest UK promotion.

We tried to put on events

that no one had seen
in this country.

Lee Murray agreed to
fight for Cage Rage,

Cage Rage 8.

And he was like,
"I will not fight

unless you get me the best.

I will give you names.

I want the best.

I want to get to the UFC."

He had his plan, you know,
and that was it.

Bang: "Give me Anderson Silva."

We're like, "Mate, Lee, listen,

why don't you take a little..."

He went, "No easy fight,
I want this guy."

[announcer] Anderson

"The Spider"

Silva!

[audience cheers]

[commentator] No way.

He's out. He's out!

He's out! He's out!

[bell ringing]

It was hard.

It wasn't easy to get
Anderson Silva

over to agree to fight someone

who'd only had like
four or five fights.

So we kept saying, "Lee, can't
you fight an English guy?

We'll get you the biggest name."

"No. I'm not having none of it,

I want a big name Brazilian."

Big Brazilian back in
them days you were,

you know, you were looked at.

And that's what got Anderson
to go, "You know what?

I've trained with Pelé.

Right, okay, I'll agree
to fight him."

And the build-up to that,

like, tickets were
sold out so quick.

Unbelievable.

To me, Lee Murray was the
early Conor McGregor.

Everything to him was like,

"Yeah, Dave, let me get it on.

I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna do it."

He had it all planned
in-in his head.

You know, if you look at
Anderson Silva weigh-ins...

[photographer] Hold it down,
both of you.

[press chatter]

Hold it down!

[press chatter]

[man] All right guys,
guys, guys.

[indistinct chatter]

[people applauding]

[Dave] He was crazy, going mad.

"I'm gonna k*ll him.
I'm gonna do this."

He gets me outside, he goes,

"David, was that good promotion?

Was that good promotion?"

You know, if we had Instagram
and Facebook back then,

mate, he would have
been a sensation.

If Lee Murray was fighting
in any show in the UK,

it was a sell-out.

I mean I begged him that day
with Anderson Silva,

I said, "Lee, I'm telling you,
please, all these people,

I know three of your boys,
just back 'em off

because this is a fight
you could lose."

"I'm not gonna lose."

I said, "But it's a fight
you could lose.

I can't have 500 people jumping
in the cage going mental."

Listen, you've always
got to be concerned.

If Lee Murray's boys are there

and something goes wrong,
of course I'm concerned.

[announcer] Ladies and
Gentlemen, are you ready?

[crowd cheering]

[commentator 1] Anderson Silva,
very focused.

[commentator 2] Yeah, he seems
to be pretty aware

of what Murray's capable of.

The distance he's keeping
says to me he knows.

He knows.

[commentator 1] Oh, a good
kick by Silva.

He's rocked Lee Murray
and follows it out

with a good strike.

The fact that Anderson Silva

was trying to take
down Lee Murray

and taking him down in a fight

when Anderson Silva
was quite possibly

the greatest striker in
the history of-of the UFC,

I mean that says a lot.

And it basically tells
you how dangerous

Lee Murray's punches were.

Extremely, extremely
dangerous guy.

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[Terry] Lee trained hard
for that fight.

But unfortunately Lee, in
my opinion, over-trained.

On the fight night,

he was flat.

[commentator 1] Anderson Silva's
bouncing around well.

[commentator 2] That's what--
I agree with you there, Rob--

[Rob] And then a good kick
by Silva and a good knee!

[Terry] Lee just didn't get a
shot off, really, on him.

They are hard, hard enough.

Anderson kept him at range
with his leg kicks.

[crowd roaring]

[Rob] Anderson Silva with
a good take-down.

Both men to the ground,

three rounds later.

It went to a decision
and Anderson got the-

got the nod.

Lee went all the rounds.

Didn't get knocked out,

went to points.

And like,

look what Anderson Silva's
got him to do.

[Dave] Lee Murray went
toe-to-toe with him

for three rounds and most
of the other fighters,

they just didn't last.

So he showed you his worth
just by that fight anyway.

He wasn't just a
flash in the pan.

And if you look
at Anderson Silva,

I think after that,
he may have lost one.

But he went 16 fights undefeated

and became the UFC champion.

So where did that
put Lee Murray?

I think Lee would
have very likely

won a world title had things
not gone wrong for him.

Yeah, Lee Murray's
last professional fight,

the Cage Rage versus
Anderson Silva,

that was it.

Yeah, that was his last fight.

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That weekend, it was
my 50th birthday.

Lee wanted to take me
to the casino in London

and treat me,
give me some money.

That was his treat
to me for my 50th,

which was really nice of him.

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We was going for the night
to a club called Funky Buddha.

And there'd been a
little bit of trouble

in there the week before.

There were six rude boys,
he called them rude boys,

that was trying to
rob a couple outside.

And then he come out.

I think the guy
asked for his help,

when they turn on Lee
and they try to stab Lee.

And he had a couple
of pierce marks in him

and he dealt with it.

And he put them to sleep.

He banged 'em out.

[Carly] I didn't realize
we was going

straight back to the same
place the following week.

Spent the night in there,
had a great night,

came out of there and there was,

they pulled the car up
outside of the club.

[Carly] There was another friend
that we was out with that night.

You could see he was having
a bit of an altercation

with a load of blokes and
they were surrounding him.

Paul, he got back out to try
and sort it out for him.

And Lee was saying, "No, no,
we're not fighting.

No, no, no. Get in the car.

I don't want this."

Like, "Leave it, leave it.

It's not our fight."

And Paul didn't.

This geezer run up
Paul and Paul hit him.

And I remember there's
bodies going everywhere

and Lee went, "Oh, have
I got to deal with this?"

I said, "Lee, walk away, mate.

Don't keep stepping in
for these guys, walk away.

Please walk."

And I've got his arm and
we started to walk away.

Lee would fight everybody's
battles for them.

Somebody else would
start something

and then he would see
his friend in a fight

and he would go in
and save his friend.

[Terry] The next thing
he pulled away from me.

Then he went in.

There was absolute carnage.

There was bodies everywhere.

Well, if you've seen a mass
brawl, it's like a swarm.

And it goes like that.

And the bigger it got,
the further out it got.

There was a man
standing behind Lee.

I stood in front of
him and he punched me

straight in the face,
knocking me clean out.

Someone with a hood on
went behind Lee

and just stabbed
him up through...

I remember Lee,
I'm actually seeing him.

And he was quite
a bit away from me

and he said," I'm gonna, Paul,
I'm gonna die."

And blood was pumping,

pumping out of his side

like spurting.

Not bleeding, pumping out.

And when I came 'round,
there was like,

it looked like a
bowl of washing up,

that's all I can describe,

of blood in the
middle of the road.

And my friend was screaming:

"It's Lee, it's Lee,
it's Lee's blood."

When I found him, they was
all surrounding him.

I was just like, "He
needs a familiar voice.

He needs to be with
someone that he knows."

So I managed to duck
through and get in the car.

So I sat in the car with him

while he was bleeding
to death, basically.

There was blood pumping
from everywhere,

you couldn't see where
it was coming from.

There was so much blood.

The ceiling was
dripping with blood.

I've never seen blood like it.

The ceiling was
dripping with blood.

They'd cut him
right through here.

And he was like in and out
of consciousness

while I held his scar together

because I knew he
hated scars, yeah.

It was really scary.

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I sat with him until
the ambulance finally

could come over.

And then I got in the ambulance
and we went to the hospital.

And I do believe,

I think he may have
passed in the ambulance.

And then we got to the
hospital and they took him off.

And I could see him
through the glass.

They cut all his clothes off
and they were working on him.

And then a doctor came,
it makes me shake now.

A doctor came out and said,

"Do you know his wife's number,

like his family number?

Because he's died and we've
just resuscitated him."

And I'm sure they said
it was three times

that they had to
resuscitate him.

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[Dave] They said he'd
never fight again.

That was it. Lee's over.

It was all in the press.

Lee Murray's fighting
career's over.

Within the six months,
he was sending us videos

of him punching the bag, going,

"I'm coming back."

Bang, bang.

And I couldn't believe
the power he had again.

I didn't know how his
stamina would last

because it's like one lung
was severely damaged.

Lee healed like Wolverine
from that stabbing.

He was coming back
for another fight,

"This time I want a belt.

I'm gonna fight someone big."

"What about you come back
with a warm-up fight?"

"No, I wanna fight
someone bigger.

I want to fight..."

So again, it was in his,

he's one of them guys,
as you say, hard to k*ll.

[laughs]

The robbery, yeah.

Uh.

That, to me, is a bit of
a hard pill to swallow,

because I know Lee wouldn't
hurt a woman or a child.

I know that for a fact.

I know that.

Understand it? No.

I don't, because he
had what he wanted.

A great life:

money, cars, houses.

Don't get it.

But you can take the
man off the street

but you can't take the
street out of the man.

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[Nicola] I think people
could have changed his mind.

I think...

I just think at that time
people were,

not egging him on but

people were enjoying the show.

Everything seems funny
until it all comes on top.

And I think it might have seemed
like fun and games and...

[exhales sharply]

But it got real really quickly.

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[Andy] What do you do while
you're recuperating?

If you've got this
ear worm in your head.

I'm gonna rob this place.

I'm gonna do this

whilst you're recuperating,

you sit and you think about it.

And you think about many,
many things, don't you?

So you've got time to do that.

And that's what they did.
I'm certain.

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The series of offenses
had actually started

on Tuesday, the 21st.

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Colin Dixon leaves work

approximately half past
five in the afternoon.

Colin Dixon was the-the general
manager of Medway House,

of the Securitas Depot,
in Tonbridge.

He leaves his office, locks
it up and gets in his car

and heads towards home.

He had managed the depot
for some time at Tonbridge.

But he lived the
other side of Kent.

Colin Dixon lived in Herne Bay,

which is a fair journey
through the middle of Kent

and specifically
towards the north downs,

north of Maidstsone
called Detling Hill.

Herne Bay in Kent is a
sleepy residential area,

a nice-class area.

Suburbia if you like,
but on the coast.

And that's where
Colin and Lynn lived

with their eight-year-old
son Craig.

Now, Colin generally came home
sort of 7:00 in the evening.

You know, you've got
a fifty-mile drive.

What was interesting
to us straight away

was the fact that
he'd been targeted

in his own car on the way home.

[Andy] Colin Dixon
suddenly becomes aware

of some blue flashing
lights behind him.

He assumes it's an
unmarked police vehicle

and it's trying to
pull him over,

so he pulls over.

He pulls up just shy of
what we call a layby.

Basically on British roads you
have your main carriage way

and you have pull-in places.

We call them laybys.

But he pulled in
just short of that.

Police officer, who
was the passenger

of the vehicle got out.

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He suddenly thinks,

"Hmm, there's something
not quite right here,

a bit suspicious.

Where's your ID?"

And I think he had
handcuffs placed on him then

because he made a comment
about he thought

that was a bit much
for speeding,

being put in handcuffs.

[Andy] The passenger
produces a p*stol, said,

"This is a 9mm.

We're not f*cking about."

Then all his worst
feelings and suspicions

had been confirmed that
he is being kidnapped.

[Adrian] Colin Dixon's taken
from there to another location.

He's moved into
another vehicle, a van.

[Andy] His glasses were
taken off him.

His eyes were taped shut.

They took his shoes off him.

And he was tied, wrists
and feet, with rope.

And he then went on a journey
for about half an hour.

He couldn't tell you where.

Ended up on bumpy roads
and he was then taken to

a compound of some sort.

[Adrian] And all he
knows there is

he's in some form of
farm with many buildings.

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[Andy] He's left there for
a couple of hours.

Obviously everything's
going through his mind.

What's going on?
What's going on?

And then someone
comes to the van

and they tell him that they've
got his wife and his child.

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Yeah, Lynn Dixon was
at home in Herne Bay

with her young child.

And the norm of their life,

the normality of Colin
and Lynn Dixon's life

would be that he was in
the habit of ringing her

when he left or texting her to
say, "I'm leaving work now."

And then about 20 minutes
from home,

he'd send her another text.

She would know he would be home.

They would sit down,
eat and discuss their day.

What happened on
this particular day

is she got the "I'm
leaving work now" text

and then it went silent,

radio silence.

Couldn't get much,
thinking a bit strange.

You know, you get towards
seven o'clock.

That's unusual.

So she tries to ring him.

And it goes to answer phone.

The phone goes to answer phone.

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What she does is she carries
on dealing with the child,

makes sure the child
has got ready for bed,

has a bath.

Lynn puts him in bed.

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She starts to watch
something on television

which distracts her.

And I think it's
around half past eight,

she believes she started
watching this program.

And shortly after, there's
a knock at her front door.

So she goes to the door

and sees two policemen
stood there.

They tell her that it's
nothing to worry about,

that Colin's been
involved in an accident

and he's in hospital.

He's okay but they've come
to take her to the hospital.

So they say, you know, "Get
your stuff and we'll take you."

And she said, "Right, I'll
just get one of my neighbors

to look after my child."

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At that point,
I'm pretty certain

they didn't know there
was a young child.

So they told her,
"Don't worry about that.

Bring the child with you."

So she obviously
roused the child,

got some bits and
pieces to keep them busy

when they were at the hospital.

Wherever she went in the house,

one of them was always with her,

never let her move
out of their sight.

So they went out of the
house having locked up

and she noticed straight away

that it was an
unmarked police car,

which was a bit unusual.

But she didn't think
anything of it.

Opened the car door,
the child got in first.

[Andy] Lynn Dixon's getting in.

She looked at the dashboard

and she could see
the radio was on.

And it had Magic FM on
or something like that,

which you don't
have with the police

because there's
no radio in them.

She realized something was
wrong and she screamed.

It's too late.

She's shoved in and
the door is closed.

And it actually
closed on her leg.

But they shut the door on her
leg and then produced a g*n.

"Do as you're told and
you won't get hurt."

They told her to
keep her head down

and they go out of Herne Bay.

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And she's driven from
there about twenty minutes

to another rural
location in Kent.

[Andy] Lynn sees a red van

and a man in a balaclava

stood in back of it.

She and her child were
then put into that red van.

[Andy] The robbers bring Lynn
and the child to Colin.

His eyes are still taped down.

Lynn and her child
can clearly see Colin

but he can't see them.

It's the threat.

That's why they've done it.

It's, "We're not messing around.

You know now that
we're not playing.

We have got your
wife and child."

Tiger kidnapping
is very strange.

It's very unusual.

So tiger kidnapping is
an expression we use.

It actually originated
from the IRA in Ireland

that used to kidnap
members of the family

in order to coerce another
person to place a b*mb.

But that moved into
criminal circles.

They realized if you
kidnap someone's family

you can coerce them
to do something.

And clearly that became of
interest in bank robberies,

where people who had
access to keys, to vaults,

could then gain
access to the cash.

They weren't after the
manager of the depot.

They were after the money
that he controlled.

He's been in the van
for over two hours.

He's then taken out
and he's taken into

another building.

This other building
smells of paint,

like a paint workshop.

His eyes are untaped.

His glasses are
given back to him.

He's told to look
straight ahead.

He is aware of at least five
men in that workshop with him

and they've got balaclavas on.

They've all got balaclavas.

And they've all got g*ns.

He describes a machine g*n.

He can clearly
see a machine g*n.

And he can clearly see a
hand-drawn map of the depot,

of his workplace
in front of him.

It is clearly his place of work.

I think it even
depicts his office,

the toilets, the vault

and what's called
the counting rooms.

So he knows that these guys

definitely know what
they're talking about.

They've not just made this up.

They're not winging it.

And they start to ask
him questions about it;

how many staff will be
there during the night?

Who are the supervisors?

What will they have
in their possession?

What are the security
protocols there?

He's trying to answer
and at one point

he's struggling
to find an answer.

They tell him to
stop f*cking about

and they stick the
g*n to his head

and say they're gonna--
they'll k*ll him.

He complies as I
think anyone would do

under duress and being
threatened by a g*n.

He's in the fear of his life

and he's genuinely frightened
like any one of us would be.

Then they moved Colin
to another vehicle

and told him to
keep his eyes closed

and pretend that he's asleep.

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Lynn and her child
were put onto the back

of a large white lorry,

which is a truck basically.

And the shutters were closed.

There was another robber
on the back of the lorry

with her and her child to make
sure that they didn't escape.

They then start moving.

Colin is clearly aware
that they're moving towards

the direction of Tonbridge,

to his place of work.

I got in my normal time

to take over from
the outgoing manager

and it was just a quiet,
you know, uneventful evening.

I started my shift at 10
in the evening.

Really, really a normal day.

A normal, normal working day.

[Andy] About 1:20 in
the morning, 1:21,

Colin Dixon gets out of the
passenger side of the Volvo

and a robber dressed
as a policeman

gets out of the driver's side.

The side gate is opened by
Colin Dixon using his pass.

They walk up the side steps
of the main front door.

Colin Dixon makes the
control room operator

aware that he's there.

[Andy] They go into
the control room.

The robber threatens the control
room operator with a g*n.

Colin walked straight over

and then you can see him just
push the first camera down.

[Andy] Colin Dixon
opens the gates.

All the other robbers,

they then approached
the front door

and are also let
into the building.

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[Anca] I was having my first
break at half-one.

We have ladies rotating,
so while I have my break,

once I finish,
I come back,

then the next lady
will have hers.

I went into the ladies toilet.

I heard a bang after me.

"Who is that?"

I actually spoke and I
haven't heard a voice back.

I just called twice and
just, I left it there,

so I didn't pay much attention.

[Alun] Sitting at my desk.

It was just a quiet evening

until I saw Colin coming in

with what I thought were
a couple of policemen.

I thought it might have been
some kind of security exercise.

But then Colin looked
at me and he said,

"Oh, I'm sorry, Alun."

And this what I
thought was a policeman

put a g*n in my face.

You know, I looked
at him and I saw

the guy was wearing a balaclava.

He said, "Get down."

Got on the floor
and he cable-tied

my hands behind my back.

And then I could hear them
going into the main room

where they had the
note-sorting machine.

[Tony] I'm sitting at the desk.

I see one fellow
walk through the door

and stand over to the left

with a shotgun.

He was in a defensive stance
ready for someone to attack.

I was away from
the panic button.

There was a panic
button on the wall.

Colin come in, stood in
the doorway of the room

and said, "Don't
do anything stupid.

They've got my wife and kids.

Get on the floor. Do this.

Do that and don't move.

You know, do as I say."

And they're not shouting

but they're being
forceful, you know?

They didn't look agitated,
pretty calm.

He started jumping on me,

saying, "Get down. Get down."

He actually used his force
to push me to the ground.

I tried to lift my head up
so he would not let me.

Then he pushed me again, so hard
I hit my face to the ground.

He lifted me up and
he turned me around.

He said, "You hurt?"

Because I was actually
bleeding from my mouth.

I was too scared at
the moment to respond

so I wasn't responding.

He started like rolling
me on the floor.

He was searching my
pocket and he said

that if I have any scissors,

I have no idea why
he said scissors

and if I have a mobile phone,

which I haven't had it on me.

He lifted me up.

He was still quite forceful
and he pulled me up.

I was really, really
scared that moment.

[Tony] We've got up,

laid down in front of the
note sorting machine.

One by one they've tied
us up with cable ties.

All I remember then
was just laying there

for a few minutes before
we were taken out.

[Anca] So they brought
everyone from that room

into this hallway room.

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I remember walking towards
where the safe area was,

where a lot of the staff

were laying down
on their fronts.

Just carried on, laid
me down on my belly

in front the safe door.

When I saw my colleagues
all on the floor,

scared and I saw
the chaos inside,

that moment I was
really started crying.

I really started crying.

You feel helpless, really.

You just absolutely,

that's the main feeling.

You just feel helpless.

[Alun] When we used to go into
work, we used to sign in.

And they went through that,
called everybody's name.

I suppose they wanted
to make sure that

there was nobody
else in the building.

Colin, I heard
his voice saying

we should not do
anything stupid.

Do as we're told.

Our life is not worth it.

Let them take whatever.

There was a discussion
I think about,

there's two sets of
keys to the safe.

You need two people at the
same time to open the safe.

And Colin said that
he would open the safe

so they can gain access.

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Then I think they realized
what was in the safe.

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[Alun] Taller guy, quite a fit
guy, do you know what I mean?

You might have
thought that he was

an ex-soldier or something.

Everything went through him.

He seemed to be the
leader of the operation.

[Tony] We could hear
them moving around

and saying to each other,
"Get this.

Grab that."

You can hear all the
trolleys moving around.

One of the guys started to
move the forklift around,

but where we were laying
we was in more danger

of getting run over by the
forklift than being shot.

So I volunteered, if you like

and said, "I'll do it"

because you're gonna have,
just running over people.

Now, I honestly thought with
all these cameras everywhere

we're all being watched.

So all I've got to do is do
something out of the ordinary,

draw attention to myself.

So this comes my five
minutes of madness,

banging the forklift against
the walls of the safe,

just stupidly thinking that

they've got sensors
in the walls,

we've got a control center
looking at us.

[Alun] You could hear him
banging around, hitting walls,

not coming out of the
vaults as he normally would.

[Tony] Done that bit, okay.

Don't wanna keep doing it

because they're gonna realize
I'm just playing around.

They ordered me to take
the money to the van

through the loading bay.

I knew the lorry was lower.

We'd have to lower the
loading bay to meet it.

But I wasn't gonna
tell them that.

There was no way that forklift

was coming back
into the building.

I put the first
case onto the lorry.

That's when I noticed
his wife and his child

to the side of the van.

Their faces is an
imprint that'll never go.

That's when I knew
this was serious.

If this goes wrong,

this is gonna go bad for them.

So I put the money on.

But I knew the forklift
wouldn't come back up.

That moment there, they

told me to stand on
the loading bay.

And one of them put a
Skorpion machine g*n

literally two foot in
front of me on the ground

to go and help try
and get the forklift

onto the loading bay.

I thought, I'm gonna bend down,
pick this g*n up,

I'm gonna go into the building.

I know everyone that I know

is laying face down
on the ground.

Spray the whole building
about waist-high.

Anyone standing waist-high
is gonna cop it.

And then I sort of realized,
don't be stupid.

And I think I've been
watching too many

Arnold Schwarzenegger
films, you know,

so I decided to keep calm
and do as they say.

They march me back
into the building,

handcuff me kneeling down
with my head against a pillar.

We're kneeling with our
face against the wall.

One of them was
walking behind us,

walking up and down.

And at one point he just
stopped behind my back.

He was touching with
the g*n from the head

and moved all the
way to the back.

I didn't move.

I didn't move a second
from that moment.

I did feel that I
was gonna be k*lled.

[Tony] This is it.

This is where I thought

this is where the b*llet comes.

This is where I get shot.

I'm just kneeling there, waiting.

But I'm listening
to what's going on.

They're moving money around.

They're filling up other
bits and bobs,

now the forklift is
out of action.

They're just, wheelbarrows,
cages, anything.

They're just filling
up with money.

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[Anca] We are there for a good
half an hour in that position.

And it was really,
really painful.

My legs were numb.

I lost the circulation
in my hands.

They were totally numb.

There was no
flexibility whatsoever.

Do you know what I mean?

You couldn't get any movement
out of your wrist at all.

It was like a tourniquet
on your hands.

I thought they were
gonna drop off.

My hands were hurting so much
I called the guy and I said,

"You cannot leave my
hands in this condition."

And one of the guys came over

and had a look at them and said,

"Oh, yeah, this is too tight."

And then the leader said to him,

"Well, just cut it off
and loosen his hands up."

He said, you know, "Cut it?

I'm gonna cut him."

And the other guy says,
"Well, use my blade and

cut down on his watch strap."

I was shocked.

You know what I mean?

He had some compassion about
that he might actually hurt me.

You know what I mean?

You know, he'd come in with g*ns

and scared the hell out of us

but he was worried
that he might actually

cut me with a knife.

He got me back on my feet,

let me shake my arms out.

I get some circulation
back in myself.

And he just put me
into a money cage

and cable tied my hand
to one side of the cage.

[Anca] They grabbed me and
just put me in the cage.

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[Tony] Lynn Dixon and their
son was put into one.

Colin was put into another.

We were just basically,

we were just like
animals at the zoo

in a cage.

[Alun] You know it's over
because once they leave

one of them shouted out to us,

you know, quite sarcastically
really, you know,

"Thank you for
your cooperation."

And he wound me up. [laughs]

It did, you know what I mean?

That's the most annoying thing

that they could have said,
you know what I mean?

It just, they'd
humiliated us, really,

and it was just kind of rubbing
some salt into the wounds.

We sat there then, just to
make sure that they had left

before anybody tried to
get out of the cages.

[Tony] The vehicle gate has
a certain squeak to it

when it opens and closes.

So when we heard
the second squeak,

we all actually know
that they had gone

and the gate had
closed behind them.

Lynn and the boy's cage
had a hole in it

which I think the boy
managed to get out from.

[Alun] Colin's son, the cage
they put him in was broken

and he'd managed to pull some

of the netting back
and squeeze out.

And then Colin was
able to direct him

to where there were keys

to let everybody
out of their cages.

I remember Colin saying like,
"We should stick together.

Let's stick together.

Stay in one place."

They were talking,

all talking like what to do.

They didn't call police
right away.

I think I heard something like,

"Let's not do it right now."

As soon as we got out,

I was gonna hit the panic alarm.

Colin, said no.

Let's make sure to give
them time to get away,

give them time to get away.

He said, they know
who we all are.

He said they'd been following
us and our families.

So I was quite concerned
about my family.

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And I thought, "Well, I'm
gonna hit the panic alarm,"

and then I rang the police.

999 call.

A woman took the call and she
said, "It's an emergency?"

I said, "Yeah."

I said, "Our work's
been robbed."

And she said, "Okay."

She said, "Do you how
much has been taken?"

I said--

I said, "Millions."

And I don't- I don't think
she believed me.

I really don't think
she believed me.

A little while later, one-

one patrol car turned up,

a policeman and a policewoman.

[Tony] So we're trying
to explain to him

what this place is.

He doesn't know until I took
him to look through the safe

where the money had been
scattered all over the place.

That's when I think
he started to realize

that this-this is more-more
serious than he first thought.

And then he just came back in

and he looked at his
colleague and he said,

"They're gonna have to get
everybody out of bed for this."

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