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02x08 - Bailey and Monge

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "K*llers: Caught on Camera". Aired: February 15, 2023.*
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02x08 - Bailey and Monge

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[intriguing music]

NARRATOR: This time, on ''K*llers Caught on Camera''.

In the US, Florida, a 13-year-old girl is discovered

with more than 100 stab wounds.

MAN: There's one stab wound for every second.

That's almost two minutes of just sheer violence.

NARRATOR: And in Colorado, a student

goes missing after accepting a ride

home in a windowless white van.

Dad turns detective.

MAN: The smell of bleach was so overpowering, it

just stopped me in my tracks.

[intriguing music]

MAN: It just sounds like something

bad is happening to her.

WOMAN: We know what happened because the video

tells us what happened.

MAN: I heard some g*nshots.

POLICE: Drop it.

Whatever it is, drop it.

MAN: That does not prove that I k*lled my wife.

MAN: The camera doesn't lie.

NARRATOR: Jacksonville, Florida.



close-knit community where kids outnumbered

adults and crime was rare.

NARRATOR: It was home to Stacy and Forrest

Bailey and their five children.

FORREST BAILEY: We've always told our kids

that the best thing that we could ever give them

was a sibling.

And they've always taken that to heart,

they've always been incredibly close with one another.

NARRATOR: 13-year-old Tristyn was the youngest

of the Bailey clan.

STACY BAILEY: I would describe her as fun, loving, super kind

and a little bit sassy.

She's also a really popular girl.

She could be friends with everyone.

FORREST BAILEY: Tristyn gave the world her best.

She was very outgoing, she wanted to put

a smile on people's faces.

She was very energetic, she was very determined

and extremely supportive.

NARRATOR: From a young age, Tristyn was determined

to excel at cheerleading.

STACY BAILEY: In like kindergarten,

first grade, she kept saying, ''I want to be

on the cheerleading team''.

And she taught herself how to do so

many skills that I couldn't say no to her,

and the rest was history.

She ended up on three teams.

She just dedicated her life to that.

NARRATOR: Life as a family of seven was incredibly busy,

but they always made time to be together at the weekends.

FORREST BAILEY: We had what was known as Bailey family fun day.

And I can tell you that there was nothing better in the world

just hearing the family interact with each other,

seeing all the personalities come out to play.

And it was just filled with so much fun and laughter.

NARRATOR: Saturday, May 8th, 2021.

The Bailey family went for a meal together.

It was the night before Mother's Day.

FORREST BAILEY: We went out and had a great dinner together,

and then we went home.

I remember when I went to bed that evening, telling, telling

Tristyn that I loved her.

NARRATOR: Sunday, May 9th, 2021.

Mother's Day morning, Tristyn and her sister Sophia

were supposed to make a special breakfast for their mom.

STACY BAILEY: I wasn't allowed to come out of my room,

but it got to be like 9:30 that day, and I was like, gosh,

I can't sit-in here anymore.

So I went out and Sophia was making

this breakfast by herself.

And I was like, where's Tristyn?

And she said, she's still sleeping.

And I asked my son to tell Tristyn to come downstairs.

And he came downstairs and he said, mom, I

didn't see Tristyn in her room.

FORREST BAILEY: Instantly, me that I

was like, that's, that's weird.

I checked every room and we started yelling.

She wasn't there.

So I went out the front door and I called the police.

[911 call]

NARRATOR: Curt Hannon was a Sergeant with the St

Johns County Sheriff's Office.

KURT HANNON: The first thing we try and do

is find out who do they have contact with normally, who

is the last person that saw them,

where's the last place they were seen.

NARRATOR: Police interviewed Tristyn's sister,

Sophia, who was the last person to see

Tristyn at around midnight.

[sophia's voice]

[police voice]

[sophia's voice]

NARRATOR: But it became clear that Tristyn had

left home just after midnight.

At 12:02 a.m., she was spotted on surveillance footage a couple

of streets away from her home.

NARRATOR: People in the local community

did everything they could to help in the search for Tristyn.

FORREST BAILEY: Our community was unbelievable.

I don't know how many people set aside their Mother's

Day plans to help find Tristyn.

NARRATOR: Jennifer Dunton is an Assistant State Attorney.

JENNIFER DUNTON: As her parents are reaching out to her friends,

trying to find out who she could have gone out with.

They discovered a name of Tre.

Law Enforcement officers responded out to Tre's house

and he said, no, I haven't seen her.

They left, they kind of followed up on leads again,

Trey just kept coming up.

So they went back to Tre's house.

And at that point, he decided to tell them

that, OK, she was at my house last night

with my friend Aiden Fucci.

JENNIFER DUNTON: And that they had

both left together, Aiden and Tristyn, at about 1 o'clock AM.

NARRATOR: Police tracked down Aiden.

KURT HANNON: Aiden story was that he and Tristyn went down

her street to her house and Aiden kept on walking and they

left about 1 o'clock in the morning and he said

he got home about 3:00, 3:30.

It wouldn't take two hours for him

to get back home to his house, it's not that far away.

So we kind of pressed him on his timeline

and said, well, you know, why did it

take you so long to get home.

And he said, well, I was just kind

of walking around for a while.

And we were, well, show me where you're walking around at.

NARRATOR: The police took Aiden in a patrol car.

So he could show them the route that he and Tristyn

took after leaving Tre's house.

JENNIFER DUNTON: They took Aiden to Tre's house

and then put both of them in a vehicle

and drove them around and left them for a period of time.

NARRATOR: In the patrol car, Aiden

posted a video on social media.

It's in a [bleep] cop car, guys.

Tripping, dude.

Having fun in a [bleep] cop car.

Yep.

JENNIFER DUNTON: Aiden is laughing,

joking very light hearted.

He's saying, Tristyn, where are you?

They're showing the firearms and things that are in the police

officer's vehicle.

AIDEN: God damn, dude, has flashbangs [bleep] back there.

JENNIFER DUNTON: Not normal behavior in those circumstances.

NARRATOR: As well as posting on social media,

Aiden's version of events from the night

before started to change.

JENNIFER DUNTON: He said, you know,

what I said earlier wasn't true.

Aiden's new story was given to the patrol

officer in the police car.

[police voice]

[aiden's voice]

[police voice]

JENNIFER DUNTON: He said they were kissing, she grabbed him

and he didn't like it and he pushed her down.

She hit her head and he left in the opposite direction

and doesn't know what happened to her.

That obviously erased investigators suspicions.

So he's detained.

DR. JULIA SHAW: Changing your story isn't inherently

an indicator of guilt, but if you change important elements

of the story and you keep changing it,

then that starts to be correctly interpreted

as evidence that something's something's wrong.

This person is intentionally concealing something from you.

NARRATOR: While Aiden was detained,

the community was still frantically

searching for Tristyn.

At 6:00 PM that evening, 18 hours after

Tristyn went missing, 911 dispatchers

received a harrowing call.

[911 call]

NARRATOR: Police responded immediately.

JENNIFER DUNTON: It was clear that she had been stabbed.

There was some blood in the surrounding area.

She had her cell phone on the ground.

I believe a vape pen, some money laying around her.

KURT HANNON: It's one of those things where I remember exactly

where I was and I can remember the feeling of just the sinking

gut wrenching, oh my god, this is not

what we were expecting at all.

This is now a homicide investigation.

NARRATOR: A dive team searched the pond for evidence.

They recovered a knife with a missing tip.

Tristyn's body was taken for an autopsy.

KURT HANNON: Following a six hour autopsy,

I had to go and tell a mother and a father, and a family

that their daughter has been m*rder*d.

[intriguing music]

STACY BAILEY: I remember the police showed up at my house.

They asked me if I could go inside, and I begged them,

I begged them not to take me in there.

I knew if I went in there that--

They didn't tell me she wasn't--

She wasn't OK.

KURT HANNON: How do you tell somebody that their daughter

has been stabbed 114 times?

If you think that there's one stab wound for every second,

that's almost two minutes of just sheer violence.

STACY BAILEY: Detective Hannon told

my husband and I. I just remember

screaming uncontrollably.

And my family just fell apart at that point.

NARRATOR: The police needed to work out exactly what happened.

The area was well covered with surveillance

cameras, which helped the police to build a timeline.

NARRATOR: The day before Tristan's body was found,

Saturday, May 8th, Aiden Fucci was caught on camera

close to 7 p.m., skateboarding around

the area with his girlfriend.

KURT HANNON: One of the questions that we try to answer,

if he's a suspect, is what was he wearing.

So here we see him in the afternoon.

He's wearing a dark colored hoodie, blue jeans,

and he's got white sneakers on.

So those are things we may be looking for in the future.

He is skateboarding and he's going towards Tre's house.

KURT HANNON: So if this house here is Trey's house.

And you'll see Aiden coming up on the skateboard.

The video from the Ring doorbell footage is very clear,

you can very clearly identify Aiden Fucci in this video.

NARRATOR: Aiden arrived at Tre's house just after 8 p.m.

On Saturday, May 8th.

KURT HANNON: Aiden is just coming over to his house.

At this point in time, Tristyn is not coming to the picture

yet.

NARRATOR: But crucial footage was recovered after dark,

just after 1:00 AM on Sunday, May 8th, the same time Aiden

and Tristyn left Tre's house.

KURT HANNON: These videos, they show

two figures who we determined to be Aiden and Tristyn.

This is the last known video footage

that we were able to find of her still alive.

And they're walking towards the direction of where

she was ultimately m*rder*d.

NARRATOR: An hour and a half later, the same camera captured

an individual in a hurry.

KURT HANNON: He's running in a direction

now away from the pond.

And this is the first time anybody returns from that area.

This one was key to us because it

shows that one person carrying something in his hands.

NARRATOR: On Sunday, May 9th at 8:00 pm,

two hours after Tristyn's body was found,

Aiden Fucci was brought in for further questioning,

accompanied by his parents.

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

NARRATOR: As they waited for an attorney,

their conversation was recorded.

[aiden's dad]

KURT HANNON: These parents made comments to him

that they knew that the room was recorded

and they told him not to say anything.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

[aiden's mom]

KURT HANNON: And then they started asking him questions

that kind of gave us some more insight into what was going on

and what may have happened.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

DR. JULIA SHAW: By the time he's in the holding cell,

you can see his demeanor is quite different

from the first time we see him.

And he's taking it more seriously, although possibly

still not seriously enough, which

is why his parents then come in and say basically smarten up.

This is a really big deal.

NARRATOR: The digital forensics team also retrieved

footage from the Fucci family home in the early hours of May,



[aiden's dad]

[aiden]

KURT HANNON: By that statement, that

basically identified himself as the person carrying

the shoes in that video.

KURT HANNON: We saw the person on the previous video

carrying something in his hands, and now we

see a person coming to Aiden's house carrying shoes

that we can clearly see has a black Nike swoosh on it.

This was a key foundational piece of evidence right here.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's dad]

JENNIFER DUNTON: So it was clear to us

that his parents knew he was lying,

you know, they're sort of very skeptical.

They're questioning him.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

JENNIFER DUNTON: They understand the gravity.

He doesn't seem to or doesn't care.

NARRATOR: While Aiden and his parents

were in the holding room, the police searched the family home

and looked through the security footage.

Unusual behavior by Aiden's mom was discovered by police.

KURT HANNON: Here in the video, we see Crystal,

she's going upstairs to Aiden's room.

She's just come out of Aiden's room carrying

something in her hands and is now in the bathroom at the sink.

And we believe, based on her motions,

that she's scrubbing something in the sink.

Here we can see it looks like a pair of jeans.

NARRATOR: Aiden and his mom were unaware

that the police had discovered unusual behavior

recorded upstairs.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

[aiden's mom]

[aiden's dad]

[aiden]

KURT HANNON: She's asking him, were you wearing blue jeans

or were you wearing khakis?

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

KURT HANNON: And then she tries to convince

him that he's wearing khakis.

[aiden's mom]

KURT HANNON: And then she goes back to the jeans

and asks if there's anything on them.

And he kind of gave her this look.

[aiden's mom]

[aiden]

KURT HANNON: You can hear it in the audio, she whispers.

[aiden's mom]

KURT HANNON: His mother was trying to cover up for him

and help him out and protect him.

DR. JULIA SHAW: It's an ethical dilemma.

And we know from research settings

that when presented with saving even five

people or your own family member or loved one,

most people will choose their own.

And so when these kinds of dilemmas happen,

we often act in ways that defend and protect the ones we love,

even if it's directly harmful to other children and other people.

NARRATOR: At Aiden's house, the police recovered

vital pieces of evidence.

JENNIFER DUNTON: He had a closet in his room

and there was a dresser pushed back in his closet.

To the right of that dresser was like just

a large pile of clothing that you'd expect a teenager to have.

And as detectives dug through that,

they found the white Nike tennis shoes that were damp.

[intriguing music]

JENNIFER DUNTON: They found a piece

of paper that looked like it had red blood stains on it.

We pull that dresser out.

Shoved behind it, it was a white t-shirt that appeared

to have red brownish stains.

And then a pair of jeans, also damp that appeared

to have some staining on them.

There were several knives in his room.

[intriguing music]

JENNIFER DUNTON: And there was a empty knife

sheath in that same dresser.

JENNIFER DUNTON: All the items are tested for presumptive blood

and the shirt, the shoes, the piece of paper

and the jeans come back that has got blood on it.

His bathroom sink, drain and pipes

also tested positive for blood.

NARRATOR: A recorded interview with Aiden's girlfriend

revealed Aiden's fascination with knives.

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

[police voice]

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

[police voice]

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

[police voice]

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

DR. JULIA SHAW: I think a lot of teens quite like taboo things.

And knives can be one manifestation of that.

I think that there's a social cloud

that comes with that that a lot of teenagers would enjoy.

NARRATOR: Aiden's girlfriend also explained how

much he talked about k*lling.

[police voice]

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

[police voice]

[aiden's girlfriend's voice]

[police voice]

DR. JULIA SHAW: h*m* ideation

is defined as fantasizing about murdering somebody.

And research on children, even in extreme circumstances,

has found that only about 0.09% of children

fantasize about k*lling people.

And that matters, because it's really unusual

to even have those thoughts, never

mind to go through with it.

DR. JULIA SHAW: While having a collection of knives

isn't typical, I'd still say it's not inherently suspicious.

But once you add in enacting fantasies of k*lling people,

once you've got that level of planning,

then we're talking about something much more severe.

NARRATOR: The autopsy revealed the full extent

of Tristyn's last moments.

JENNIFER DUNTON: It was discovered

that she had 114 sharp force wounds, some of which

are stab wounds, some of which are slashing wounds.

A large portion of those were defensive in nature, meaning

on her arms, her forearms.

A majority of them were surrounded by her head,

her neck, her upper back.

So clearly a vicious attack that appeared

to come from above, front and back with her defending herself.

At one point, when the knife entered her skull, the tip of it

broke off.

So during the examination, the medical examiner actually

found a little silver metal fragment like a triangle

and remove that from her skull.

NARRATOR: This was the missing piece of the jigsaw.

JENNIFER DUNTON: The knife and the tip

were matched to be one and the same.

NARRATOR: The surveillance footage was crucial for building

the case against Aiden Fucci.

KURT HANNON: Surveillance video is monumental.

The best part about it is, is you

can't refute it, because it shows exactly what happened.

And collecting all the videos together,

we're building this trail of breadcrumbs

and so we actually able to assemble a video timeline,

if you will, from Tre's house going

in the direction of that pond, and then

only one person running.

And so that video footage was key in determining

the timeline of events.

JENNIFER DUNTON: Cameras don't lie, people lie.

So you're able to verify stories and see things

that only the cameras can see.

You definitely wouldn't have had a complete story

without the cameras.

NARRATOR: With overwhelming evidence against him,

Aiden Fucci was charged with first degree m*rder.

[police voice]

NARRATOR: Aiden was only 14 years old

at the time of the m*rder, but due to the brutality

of the crime, he was charged as an adult.

FORREST BAILEY: Thankfully, the judge really weighed everything

and came out with him being in a state

where he should never be able to hurt anybody else again.

NARRATOR: Aiden Fucci was sentenced to life in prison.

In court, the judge said in quotes,

''this crime had no motive''.

DR. JULIA SHAW: What's unusual about this case is in some ways

that there is no mitigating circumstances.

So it's not that she rejected him and he k*lled her in anger.

The only reason he did it was because he wanted to.

And that is something that is harder to grasp,

but psychologically is certainly still motive.

JENNIFER DUNTON: We have no evidence

that it was against Tristyn, if that makes sense,

that she was picked for any reason or the other, other than

opportunity.

NARRATOR: Aiden Fuchs mother also faced charges.

JENNIFER DUNTON: We ultimately charged her

with tampering with evidence, which is a third degree

felony in Florida.

She was sentenced after Mr. Fucci

to a period of county jail and probation.

[melancholic music]

STACY BAILEY: As a mom, it's--

It's very difficult to accept the fact that she's--

She's never coming home.

But I want people to remember her by the kindness

that she had in her, her perseverance, her determination.

She was a really good student.

She was an amazing daughter and an amazing friend.

FORREST BAILEY: It's impossible for me to say the biggest things

that I miss about my daughter.

There aren't words.

There's not three words, there's not 30 words,

there's not 3,000, 30,000.

There is the pure essence of that individual

and what they have.

She had a smile and she had a laugh, that are some of the best

things of being alive.

And some days are hollow without it.

But I can't put into words.

NARRATOR: Tristyn Bailey was a victim of multiple stab wounds,

a behavior known as overkill.

DR. JULIA SHAW: Overkill can result

from different kinds of emotions and different kinds of reasons.

I mean, it's inherently an emotional reaction

to keep stabbing someone or keep injuring someone

after they're dead.

But in this case, I think it's also that he'd rehearsed it

so many times it feels like it would be going

to waste this opportunity if he didn't

live it out to the fullest.

DR. JULIA SHAW: It's about making it worth it.

It's about making sure that if I'm going to do this m*rder,

that I get what I'm looking for out of it, because otherwise,

why would I do it?

NARRATOR: In our next case, the idea

of sadistically enjoying m*rder is taken a step

further by a repeat offender.

[intriguing music]

NARRATOR: The state of Colorado and its capital, Denver.

Home to nearly 100,000 students, known as Mile High

City with a vibrant nightlife.

It was home to 19-year-old, Kenia Monge.

Kenia was born in Honduras and moved to Denver aged 11,

after her mother, Maria, married her second husband, Tony Lee.

NARRATOR: Maria and Tony had two more children,

Kenia's brother and sister.

TONY LEE: It clicked from the first second that I met her.

She says, you're my dad and I'm your daughter.

It was just normal and natural for me for her to call me that.

NARRATOR: Kenia was academically gifted and keen to take

charge of any situation.

Kenia even set up a kids club at the local church.

TONY LEE: She had those kids rehearse

and put on a church play.

They all knew the songs that they needed to sing

and things like that, you know.

And it was little things like that that just kind of really,

really impressed me about her.

She had this leadership ability.

NARRATOR: Kenia loved the outdoors.

She became a whitewater rafting guide, while she

was still at high school.

TONY LEE: The dangerous sports, dangerous activity,

she loved it.

She liked that prestige of being out front and being the one

called guide and boss.

NARRATOR: On March, 31st, 2011, Kenia

and a group of friends went for a night out in Downtown Denver.

But Kenia never returned home to the apartment

she shared with her boyfriend.

TONY LEE: It just kept getting stranger

and stranger and stranger that nobody had heard from her.

NARRATOR: Tony spoke to Kenia's friends.

TONY LEE: Her friends were telling me

Kenia had become so intoxicated that her

and this guy who was dancing with her

were kicked out of the club.

That is the last time that they had seen her that evening.

NARRATOR: It left Kenia vulnerable.

Dr. Roberta Babb is a clinical psychologist.

DR. ROBERTA BABB: Kenia is now in an unexpected situation

of not having her belongings, not being able to make

contact with her friends.

So her ability to make her way home

had been significantly compromised.

NARRATOR: After leaving the nightclub,

Kenia was spotted on surveillance

cameras in the lobby of an apartment building.

NARRATOR: Ray Evans is a forensic image

analyst who works with law enforcement around the world.

RAYMOND EVANS: We can see approximate hairstyle, shape.

We can see approximate clothing that she's wearing,

the short coat and the dark shoes.

We can be fairly sure that it is her.

NARRATOR: Three minutes later, she was seen leaving alone.

Kenia was never spotted again on camera.

Tony reported her missing to the police.

NARRATOR: Kenia's friends dropped

off her phone and belongings.

Tony turned detective and started

calling Kenia's contacts.

TONY LEE: I'm trying to figure out what do you know.

Have you seen her?

Nobody heard anything.

Then this message came through and said, hey,

this is Travis, the guy in the creepy white van.

It sounded to me like, OK, this Travis

guy sounds like this is the last person who she was with.

TONY LEE: I didn't sleep that night.

And I called him every hour for the next 24 hours.

NARRATOR: Finally, he got through to Travis.

He said he dropped Kenia at a gas station.

Tony arranged to meet him there, but took precautions.

TONY LEE: I went up to my bedroom,

I grabbed a 9 millimeter p*stol and I told her,

I'm taking this with me.

NARRATOR: Kenia's mother was so concerned

that she called the police.

TONY LEE: She said, my husband is coming down to this gas

station at this location.

He has a g*n.

He's a black guy.

So that puts the Denver Police Department on high alert,

so they need to get there before I got there, and they did.

NARRATOR: Tony finally got to meet 31-year-old

Travis Forbes face to face.

TONY LEE: Six foot, blond hair, blue eyes, good looking guy.

If somebody going to pick my daughter up,

I think this is what I would want him to look like.

I noticed he's crying and he's telling me, you know, I'm sorry.

I didn't think that any of this would,

you know, would end up like this with, you know,

with her missing and all of that.

NARRATOR: While the police were taking a statement from Travis,

Tony took a look at the creepy white van Travis

mentioned in his text message.

TONY LEE: I got within ten feet of it.

The smell of bleach was so overpowering,

it just stopped me in my tracks right there.

NARRATOR: Tony got the police officer to investigate.

TONY LEE: He went around to the back of the van and opened up.

And we both just looked in there and we looked at each other,

because it was showroom clean.

There was bleach that had dried up running down, down the walls,

and it was just overpowering.

NARRATOR: But with no evidence of wrongdoing,

the police let Travis go.

Kenia's family were still frantically searching for her,

handing out missing person flyers to try

and jog people's memories.

On April, 4th, the police officially launched a missing

persons investigation.

NARRATOR: Travis was their only lead.

Police visited the bakery where he worked.

After a search, there was no sign of Kenia.

But detectives were shown footage of the freezer area.

RAYMOND EVANS: We see the suspect coming into this room

dragging this large container.

NARRATOR: Black duct tape sealed the box shut.

It was unusual and not normally required.

RAYMOND EVANS: The question is, what's inside that container.

And we know that very shortly after this sequence,

the suspect took the time and the effort

to turn off the CCTV camera.

The question is, it's not his bakery, why would he do that?

[intriguing music]

NARRATOR: The footage was suspicious, but inconclusive.

And Kenia was still missing.

Travis was brought in for an interview.

Detectives wanted to know more details

about how Kenia was that night.

[detective]

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

[detective] [travis]

[detective]

[travis]

[detective]

NARRATOR: According to Travis, their journey in the early hours

was only interrupted by an unscheduled

stop off for a smoke.

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

DR. ROBERTA BABB: There's a number of things that

can be read into this text.

It's a way for him to lay the seed in terms of his concern

about her getting home and to show that he is a caring citizen

who's just checking up on someone that actually he

helped in their time of need.

DR. ROBERTA BABB: It's interesting

that he actually, in the text, explicitly

names white van and creepy.

So there's an awareness that this might

be an inside joke for them.

I think there's something about this text helping

the sender hide in plain sight.

NARRATOR: During the interview.

Travis revealed details about his criminal past.

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

NARRATOR: At the age of 17, Travis

was caught stealing more than $15,000

from homes and businesses.

Searches of his room turned up, vandalized women's underwear.

Other charges in his 20s included

carrying a knife and throwing stones at women out jogging.

DR. ROBERTA BABB: This really highlights

how disturbed Travis's relationship was with women.

Vandalizing underwear really signifies a wish

not only to hurt a woman, but potentially to humiliate them,

because ultimately, underwear covers a very vulnerable

part of a woman's anatomy.

NARRATOR: The police tracked Travis's

movements using his cell phone.

Shortly after Kenia went missing,

his phone records showed that he was near Keansburg,



NARRATOR: Police recovered surveillance footage,

which showed Travis running through a gas

station in the same area.

But with no evidence he'd done anything criminal,

Travis was released.

NARRATOR: Almost three months later,

in July, 60 miles north of Denver in Fort Collins,

a woman was r*ped.

Her attacker covered her body and apartment in bleach,

and set the property on fire.

Incredibly, she jumped out of a second story window

and survived the attack.

When the police took samples from her fingernails,

the DNA matched.

Travis Forbes.

NARRATOR: He was arrested and questioned about his latest

attack on the woman in Fort Collins

and the night he picked up Kenia three months earlier.

This time he made a harrowing confession

about what happened in the back of his van with Kenia.

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

NARRATOR: Travis attempted to excuse his actions.

[travis]

DR. ROBERTA BABB: I haven't got a sense of the confession being,

because he genuinely felt remorse and guilt and shame.

I think that's potentially about him trying

to rewrite the narrative as someone who

is a victim to these impulses.

Therefore, it's not his fault. So he's

trying to potentially distance himself from responsibility

and accountability, because this was an urge

that he couldn't control.

As opposed to really connecting with a sense

of remorse and guilt and essentially taking

ownership of what he did.

NARRATOR: He had tried to find a way to cover up what he'd done

and dispose of Kenia's body.

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

[detective]

[travis]

NARRATOR: Travis went with the police

to show them exactly where he'd buried Kenia.

The location was near the gas station

where police had recovered the surveillance

footage in mid April.

They now believed he'd been checking

on Kenia's shallow grave.

TRAVIS: Right there.

Right there.

NARRATOR: The police notified Tony that they'd found her body.

TONY LEE: My wife was in bed asleep.

I woke her up.

I told her, they found Kenia.

And she just immediately said to me, is she OK?

Where is she?

And I had to tell her she was dead.

And she lost it.

NARRATOR: The surveillance footage from the bakery

confirmed Travis's story.

NARRATOR: Under a plea deal, Travis Forbes received a life

sentence for Kenia Monge's m*rder

and an additional 48 years for his attack

on the woman in Fort Collins.

But the question remained, why did he do it?

Travis even pondered this question himself.

[travis' voice]

[travis' voice]

[travis' voice]

DR. ROBERTA BABB: If we look at the wider picture with Travis,

we see a pattern of behavior which really, I think,

highlights his problematic and disturbed relationship

with women, which is probably underpinned

by negative and hostile attitudes to women.

And if we think about it, a sense of sexual entitlement

to women's bodies, which we see escalating

and ultimately contributes to the m*rder of Kenia.

[melancholic music]

TONY LEE: There's no such thing as closure at all.

And we will never have closure.

You think about this every second

of every day for the rest of your life.

She had these qualities that were

just different, exceptional.

And I think that's one of the things that still bothers me

is that I never told her that.

[melancholic music]

[end credits music]