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Twiggy (2024)

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Twiggy (2024)

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This programme contains

some strong language.

What happened to me you couldn't

plan in a million years, really.

I was as surprised, or probably more

surprised that it happened to me,

because it certainly wasn't

a grand ambition.

Oh, that's gorgeous.

It always makes me laugh

when you hear journalists say

to actors or people

in showbusiness, you know,

how did you plan your career?

I don't think that's a possibility.

They all ask, how did it all begin?

How did you get your name?

Where did you meet Justin?

I don't know.

What's that? Bird.

Mayfair 0667 was

the number of Lucie Clayton.

Training for the day when heads

will turn to look at them

at an academy in London are some of

Britain's models of the future,

for this is one of the country's

most up-to-date training schools

for models and mannequins.

Models at the time were, you know,

upper-class girls

who'd all gone to finishing school,

and it was a very rarefied world

that was very aspirational.

The proper court curtsy

that may well be needed

one day on presentation at court,

or at some royal occasion.

A lot of us looked very much

like each other,

and I think that was one of

the great bonuses.

You could... anybody would look like

anybody else.

A pointed lesson - how to pivot

round an umbrella and how to carry

it with not a trace of awkwardness.

23Girls from my sort of background

didn't become models.

Lesley!

All right.

Breakfast is ready.

I was born in Neasden in 1949,

and I was the third

of three girls to Nell and Norman.

That's my mum and dad.

We were working class, definitely,

but I never, ever felt that I didn't

have what I wanted.

A happy home, actually.

I had a lovely childhood.

My mum had issues

with her mental health,

which I think today she'd be

diagnosed as bipolar probably,

because for months and months

and months she'd be absolutely fine,

and then she'd get very low

and very depressed

and she'd have to go away

for a couple of weeks.

My dad was amazing through

that time, really,

because, you know,

he was mum and dad to me.

I wasn't really aware

until I was much older that,

you know, she had this condition

and she had it all her life.

Got lots of pictures of her

when she's small, you know.

It is nice.

We get them out and have a laugh

over some, some of them, you know.

Oh, this one was when she was

at school.

She's about, um, about six,

I suppose, there.

By the time I was 13 and a half,

14, I'd become a mod.

I was allowed out one night a week

and we went to a mod club in Harrow.

And if you were a mod,

the fashion was very specific.

It was almost like a uniform

because, I mean, I wore that

and my friends wore that.

But it was quite an amazing club.

We saw people like the Yardbirds,

Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck,

Georgie Fame,

Eric Burdon and the Animals.

I mean, this is all pre them

becoming major bands and rock stars.

I did get asked out by one boy,

and then he rang me and said,

"I'm so sorry,

"but I can't afford a girlfriend

and a new scooter,

"so I'm going for the scooter."

I got dumped for a scooter.

And then, we had the amazing

Barbara Hulanicki gave us Biba.

And that was like

a revelation to me.

And suddenly there was this new

youthful idea for clothes,

catering and designing clothes

for young people, for us.

You'd go into this store

and there was amazing music playing,

and there were beautiful

period lampshades,

feather boas everywhere and palm

trees, as well as clothes.

She used to come in on Saturdays,

see this incredible girl who

had this face like a Greta Garbo.

I mean, she was really beautiful.

And she would just stand there

and watch everything

that was going on.

She was like a ghost.

Because her eyes were really low

down in the face and huge.

The eye make-up and everything

was obviously her own idea.

I had a rag doll in my bedroom,

and she had these spiky eyelashes

underneath her eyes

and the long ones on the top.

So I kind of copied that.

Draw all the ones underneath.

I used to put three pairs

of eyelashes on the top.

I didn't wear foundation or powder

or anything.

It was all about the eyes.

I used to have a Saturday job

at a hairdressers

where my sister worked,

and Justin's brother worked.

And one day he came over

to see my sister over here,

and Justin gave him a lift

and I met Justin.

I was probably about 15 by then.

And he was in his...

he was about 25.

It wasn't very politically

correct now, thinking back,

but then I suppose it was

a different time.

And I have to say, you know,

whatever I think now...

..as a mature woman,

he was very respectful.

I mean, he was just friendly

at first.

And then over a period of months

he said, you know,

"Can I come and take you out?"

And we didn't really get into

a proper relationship until,

you know, after I was 16.

You know, my mum and dad

weren't too happy about it,

although he got my mum on his side

because he was quite sweet with her.

And, you know, there was

a kindness to him.

I met Justin about two years ago now

and I started going out with him.

You know, he knew I wanted

to be a model,

and he used to try

and take me to friends

who took photographs,

but they weren't very good.

A friend of Justin's worked on

a woman's magazine.

One of the editors there

met me and said,

"You'll never make a model.

You're too small and too slim."

She was too short. She was too thin.

She didn't have a bust.

She wasn't curvaceous.

She just wasn't what people

were looking for.

I remember going home

on the bus crying.

But she did say, "You've got a very

interesting pretty little face.

"Let's do some test shots."

And she said,

"But your hair's a mess."

So they sent me to Leonard's.

Too many teenagers nowadays

are inclined

to back-comb their hair

and make it look like beehives.

And they forgot actually,

what it is.

It's actually hair that should be

looked after well

and treated properly.

I presumed it would be a trim.

Oh, boy!

It was more than a trim.

I was in there for seven hours.

He sent me upstairs

to Daniel Galvin,

who's the brilliant colourist.

Did you see Barbara Streisand

on Saturday?

Yeah, I did.

She's fantastic.

She really is terrific.

Oh! She's gorgeous.

When he turned me round

to the mirror, it was amazing.

It was like, oh, my God!

And he sent me to this lovely

photographer called Barry Lategan,

who was a new young photographer,

to have my photograph taken

of his haircut.

I was totally overwhelmed

and intimidated.

I'd never been in a studio.

I'd never sat in front of a camera.

And he just sat me in a chair

and he had all his lights.

And then he went behind the camera.

I was nervous, but he was such

a sweet man, and he was so kind.

And he just said, "Just look at me

and, you know, look at the lens."

And ironically, that one photograph

is probably one of the most

well-known photographs of me.

And it was the first photograph

that was taken.

Is the shirt all right, chaps?

Yeah.

You ready?

Yeah.

Leonard hung a print of the haircut

in the lobby of the salon,

and one of his clients was

a lady called Deirdre McSharry,

who was the fashion editor

on the Daily Express.

I was working with

a rather famous model

in a studio quite late

the night before,

and she was very bad-tempered

and depressing.

And I was suddenly looking

at the photograph

of somebody infinitely different.

Very young, very sweet, very lovely,

and I thought, this is what we need.

So I met Deirdre a week later.

They took some more photographs

of me

and she said, "This is going to go

in the newspaper."

And it was really exciting

because that,

you know, that didn't happen

to people like us.

My dear dad, bless him,

he used to go down to

the corner shop every morning

to get the Daily Express to see

if there was anything in it,

and nothing came out,

and nothing came out.

And then suddenly,

about three weeks later,

he came rushing into my bedroom.

I was still in bed and he said,

"Oh, Les, Les, look.

It's a whole page."

From these great ravishing,

long-limbed beauties

came this child, this waif.

She looked about 12.

And the headline was Twiggy,

The Face of '66.

And she had this cute little haircut

that Leonard had done.

He also did my hair,

but not like that.

She had freckles.

She had huge, arresting eyes,

a genderfluid, little elfin face.

A friend used to tease me

about my skinny legs,

and he used to call me Sticks.

And then one day,

Sticks turned into Twiggy.

If that article had been

Lesley Hornby,

it wouldn't have had the impact.

Her name came like a lightning bolt.

Twiggy.

Twiggy. Twiggy. Twiggy.

Twiggy. Twiggy. Twiggy...

The second she arrived,

she blew the world apart.

It was just what the fashion

world was waiting for, actually.

Magazines were booking her

without having even seen her.

And my heart is yours...

And by lunchtime,

I think every other newspaper

in Fleet Street had rung,

saying how do we get

in touch with this charmer?

My first professional paid job

was with Peggy Moffitt,

because it was with Barry Lategan,

because he thought she would

look after me

and she could teach me

a bit about moving.

You know, I'd never done this...

by jumping into the fire.

I mean, it was mad, really.

That's in my soul

Started something

that I can't control

That's what happens

when I get...

We got deluged with offers

for modelling.

And we couldn't cope with it

at first.

You know, I never anticipated it.

And within about three weeks,

she was the top model.

There's no doubt about it.

My heart was yearning

Couldn't fight it if I tried

There's a part of...

Those original pictures that were

created by Barry Lategan,

Helmut Newton.

That incredible image of her

on the bicycle by Ron Traeger.

If you look at that photograph

of Twiggy on the bike,

it's such a fantastic picture

because it kind of embodies

everything that was about freedom

and sexual liberation.

Twiggy changed the face of fashion

by one simple thing -

she smiled. She smiled a lot.

In fact, I can barely think of her

when she wasn't smiling.

That she was transcending herself

and all of us,

whether we knew it or not,

into this other world.

I love the idea that

the talent was spotted

by Deirdre McSharry on the Express

and Vogue followed suit.

It makes me laugh.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

It was 1966, and I was as green

as the grass in your garden.

Is that 10.00 in the morning?

Yeah.

But I'll be working all night.

It was very apparent

I had to leave school.

And I can remember my dad

kind of saying,

if I don't give you permission

to leave

and you don't try

and follow this dream,

you might never forgive me,

which I would have done

because I loved him,

but quite wise of him, really.

But he said,

"If you're going to do it,

"Justin has got to go to

all the photoshoots with you."

Because, as my dad said, "I know

what these photographers are like."

Stay, baby. Stay, stay.

Being a photographer,

and I think I've said it before,

it's rather like working

in a sweet shop,

that you just try not to mess around

with the liquorice allsorts.

Undo the jacket.

Come on now, come on, work.

Come on. Straighten your hair up.

Go into profile. That way.

Yeah, it's not as easy

as you think it is,

and it's not as glamorous.

If you go out on location

in the winter,

little summer dresses -

it's blooming freezing.

I mean, it's very hard work.

Round to me, darling.

A bit more... perfect. Perfect.

In those days, there were no such

things as stylists.

There might have been at Vogue at

the very top level, but not for us.

ALARM CLOCK

I have to be up, in here,

made up by 9.15 in the morning

until it could be any time at night.

We were expected, obviously,

to do all our own make-up,

but also to change our hair.

But you had to bring wigs and

hairpieces and be able to do them.

We had false fingernails

and you'd got to be able to change

the colour of that.

So you're carrying your nail varnish

about with you.

You had to have black tights,

clear tights.

You had to have polo necks

in black, beige and in white,

in case you were doing coats.

You had to bring your own gloves,

your earrings and bracelets

and things like this.

You couldn't afford a car,

so you went everywhere by tube.

And you'd put your hair in huge

rollers and tie a scarf over the top

and people go, "She's a model."

You felt very good about that.

You weren't paid until six months

after the job.

You were always anxious

because if you were one minute late,

they'd take half an hour

off your hourly pay.

And the photographers

were pretty horrid to us

because that was their job

to be horrid to us.

"You look like a pig.

"Go home until you get

nicer looking."

It was OK.

She certainly, I don't think,

did all the stuff that we did.

In just one year, Twiggy has moved

from the grammar school classroom

to scale fashion's dizziest heights.

And then when Twiggy emerged,

I met her and I thought,

"Oh, my God, she's got this fabulous

c*ck accent."

Twiggy, want some tea?

Oh, I'd love you forever

if you made me a cup of tea.

Which was very unusual

in those days.

"My dear girl..."

I don't know if you heard her laugh,

but she has a laugh

that is like a truck driver's laugh.

Ha-ha-ha! That's her laugh.

Aha ha-ha! And it's coming

out of this beautiful girl.

Oh!

Oh! It's coming out of me nose.

Do you feel out of place

because you started

from ordinary

working-class beginnings?

No. No. Why should I?

Being a working-class girl

and me being a working-class guy,

we had a kind of pretty

straightforward attitude to life.

And she handled fame, I think,

in the way that most working-class

people would,

which was like,

what you saw was what you got.

I don't think it really matters

what class your family come from.

If you're good enough in your job,

you know, you make it anyway.

It was very fashionable suddenly

to be working class.

I think we can say Twiggy is sort

of a mini queen

of the new social aristocracy.

And it's...

You can't really talk about Twiggy

without putting her

into the context of the times.

Running around the streets of

London, Carnaby Street.

And she really reflected her time.

She was youthquake personified.

The swinging youth who have given

staid and sober old London

its recent swinging metaphor.

Younger people from a working-class

background

were getting the opportunities

that they'd never had before

to become photographers,

directors, writers.

Fashion, music, art, film

had a new sort of working-class

voice, really.

There was a level of rebellion,

a level of taking ownership

into your own hands

as to what you want to listen to,

who you want to be,

how you want to say

who you are through what you wear.

People were probably feeling

more included for the first time.

And I think Twiggy

had a huge part to play in that.

You know, when Twiggy burst onto

the scene,

models did not look like her.

She was gamine, she was boyish.

She was sort of iron-board flat,

as they say.

Blurring the lines

between male and female.

Having a really generous

understanding of it being OK

to wear each other's clothes.

But she brought in this sort of

inner sensuality,

and she used her body

in really beautiful ways

that I think spoke instantly

to women,

as opposed to just

for the pleasure of men.

I was getting bookings to go

to Paris for the Paris collections.

Sex, feminin. 41 kilo.

Twiggy, en francais, Brandy...

SPEAKS FRENCH

Yes. Again. A little more of

a smile. Very natural.

That's it. Twiggy, remember,

you're making your own look.

That's it. There. Fine.

She's a very strong example of

the current teenage trend.

She believes in the clothes

she wears.

She likes the music that is the

fashion at the moment.

And these combined make her

the successful face.

Also, she... she doesn't try

and resemble someone else,

which is the mistake

a lot of current models make

in trying to look like

Jean Shrimpton.

The models that really stand out are

the ones that retain

their personality.

And they're inherently the ones that

become the most successful -

because there's an element

of the person

that you're photographing

in every picture.

Having watched careers skyrocket,

they skyrocket because you're

the right person

at the right moment.

You know, in the right time

with the kind of right

either face or attitude,

or combination of the two.

After about the first four

or five months,

when I'd hit the headlines

and I was in lots of magazines -

and, you know, the new face,

blah, blah, blah, blah -

there was this big article in one

of the daily newspapers

saying that these big four

photographers

who discovered all the models

were banning me.

LAUGHTER

I was banned.

That they... Because they didn't

discover me.

Their decision, says David Bailey,

Britain's highest paid photographer,

is because she is too amateur

in her approach.

Declared Bailey: "She's also grossly

unprofessional.

"I had her booked for an evening

recently,

"and her manager appeared

and said that they

"were going out to dinner instead."

Montgomery's agent, David Puttnam,

said:

"The trouble is that

Justin de Villeneuve

"insists on being in the studio.

"Models will start bringing

mothers next."

It was also the case that

the photographers

didn't really like the idea that

this manager figure was there.

They were used to dealing

with agents.

I remember being on set,

and we were about to be

photographed,

and there coming through the door

was Twiggy and Justin.

Justin was saying that he insisted

on seeing the photographer,

to show Twiggy.

And he said that he

was her manager.

And I thought, "Ooh, this is smart.

"This is the way to do it -

have a manager.

"Oh, how clever of her."

Prior to Twiggy, no model had

had a manager.

That was completely unique.

Justin was seen as a

Svengali figure,

but I actually think in hindsight

really wasn't.

What he was was a smart opportunist

who saw something special.

Justin, although his name's

Justin de Villeneuve,

was actually Nigel

something or other.

He created his persona.

Justin de Villeneuve...

De Villeneuve.

..is a very aristocratic name.

It's hardly a working-class name.

We'd come back from

a big job abroad,

and I would go to Biba and buy

a few dresses

and he'd go to Savile Row

and order ten Savile Row suits.

LAUGHTER

I haven't got such a large wardrobe.

About 30 suits.

LAUGHTER

100 shirts.

Everything OK?

Yeah.

You look very nice.

Do you like the material?

Oh, it's...

What is it?

Er, Worsted.

Have it like that with the stitches,

start a new fashion.

The cars we went through -

E-Type Jags, Lamborghinis,

Rolls-Royces.

You know, I feel that, really,

we're putting on

a little bit of a show for them.

But you didn't... Don't upstage me.

Don't upstage me.

And, er...

LAUGHTER

And my dad used to get

really worried.

Understand... I thought he was

overreacting, but he wasn't.

It's taken Twiggy and Justin

a mere month

to translate an idea

into the reality of Twiggy Models.

Now they're producing 15,000 dresses

and suits every week.

They were teenage clothes -

obviously, I was a teenager -

and they were very much designed

around me.

But I had a great input

in the design.

- I like this one.

- LAUGHTER

I like this one. Playsuit and

shorts.

You know, there's... I like

them all, obviously.

You know, they don't go out

if I don't like them.

It was a great joy to me

to go in and spend

the whole day with Paul and Pam,

the designers.

And we'd sit and draw and pick out

fabrics and buttons and...

And I love that creative process.

It's fabulous.

But Twiggy is confident of winning

orders worth a million dollars

if she makes her trip to America.

It's all very well to have all that

happen in England.

But most people want to try

and conquer America.

The lady who was the editor

of American Vogue then

was an amazing woman called

Diana Vreeland.

When you were touched by

Diana Vreeland,

you were anointed.

When you were touched by her,

you were touched by the hand of God.

Then, in '67, she brought me over

to America, to New York.

She put me with these amazing

photographers

who took incredible photographs.

And I was on the cover, and inside

for pages and pages.

EXCITED CHATTER

I didn't expect, you know,

when I got to the airport,

there'd be teenage fans

screaming my name,

and going into a press conference

with the American press.

Twiggy! Over here! Twiggy!

"What do you think of New York,

Twiggy?"

"I've just arrived!"

LAUGHTER

"All I've seen is the runway!"

What do you think of this reception

you're getting here today?

Fantastic. I can't believe it.

LAUGHTER

What do you think about all the

things that have happened to you?

You're only 17 years old.

You're making more money

than the Prime Minister.

Am I?

You are.

LAUGHTER

Oh, you know, it's just...

You know, I like it, obviously.

But, you know, I don't know

why it's happened.

I'm looking forward to going

into the helicopter.

I want to see the Empire State

Building and go to the top.

So I went in to do a modelling job

for American Vogue.

It was going to be a fashion sh**t

around New York,

with me at the zoo,

up the Empire State.

What do I think of her?

- It'll last...

- INDISTINCI don't know, it'll last

a couple of weeks -

like everything else.

And again, another incredible

photographer

called Melvin Sokolsky.

The first day of the sh**t

with Melvin,

I was upstairs in this

big department store.

He wanted me coming out in the dress

that we were plugging,

with bags -

like I'd been shopping.

And he said, "When you come out

of the front door

"of the department store,

the limo is at the kerb.

"I want you to walk

from the front door

"to the limo," because he said

there's a crowd gathering.

He was trying to disperse them

because he didn't want them

in the shop -

and they wouldn't go.

So he or one of his people

came up with this idea.

He said, "Come back to the studio.

"I'm going to take a load of

headshots of you,

"and we're going to make them

into masks.

"And if people get in the picture,

they're going to wear your face."

It was quite overwhelming.

OK. Don't worry, Twiggy, you won't

go out

if it's going to be dangerous.

You've got two elevators.

They've got to go first.

You've got to get in the elevator

first.

Can we just film? Don't let them

out yet.

Let the photographer know

that they are coming

before we let them walk out of here.

Like all crowds, you know,

they get very excited.

"Oh, Twiggy! Oh, my God!"

Then they want to touch you.

And as I go through,

I hear one policeman say

to the other,

"We're never going to hold

them back, Joe!"

And I went...

I was so frightened.

The bodyguard they'd hired

to look after me

just picked me up under his arm,

and he ran me through.

And he put me through the window

of the limo.

And I remember laying on

the limo floor, sobbing.

And all my eyelashes had come off

and, yeah, it was scary.

And in the end, the pictures

with the people

with the masks ended up winning them

lots of prizes.

I became, like, celebrity status.

I was on the Johnny Carson Show,

which was the biggest chat show

in America.

And then I was invited to go to LA.

Sonny and Cher threw a party

for me on their lawn.

And they were two of the biggest

stars in America.

And meeting people like

Clint Eastwood

and Steve McQueen and...

I mean, again, it was

quite surreal, really.

And what was extraordinary - you

know, there was me, you know, I was

17 and a half or whatever,

mixing in the world of adult...

I mean, anyone over 21

seemed quite old.

Is this Beverly Hills we're at now?

No, Encino.

Where's Beverly Hills?

The other side of that hill.

I was thrown into a world that I

knew nothing about, you know?

Hey, did you see...?

Yeah, I loved that...

OVERLAPPING VOICES

Isn't it amazing, when you think

about it, in this day and age?

And I did feel a little

out of my depth.

But on the other hand, you know,

I was being so looked after.

Says they're number two.

We can't argue with that.

I think he protected her.

At that very vulnerable age,

a teenage girl,

to then be on television

every minute -

and in the newspapers

and in magazines.

Walk down the street and everybody

knows who you are.

And in those days, nobody asked

how you felt.

I was offered by a big company

in Japan

to go over there and do some

modelling.

Got off the plane.

It seemed like hundreds -

it probably wasn't -

and they all came rushing at me,

shouting at me in Japanese,

and I just burst into tears.

So all the front of the papers

the papers the next day

was me crying.

The actuality of being famous

is odd and strange,

and for that to be thrust

into your life

when you're still figuring out

who you are,

I don't think you can really

ever prepare

for something so ridiculous.

Hello!

Because I went literally overnight

from being kind of quite a shy,

introspective schoolgirl...

You'd like to speak to Twiggy?

Well, she's feeding the ducks

at the moment, love.

..to being known virtually

all around the world.

LAUGHTER

So it was a bit peculiar.

He'll be all right, Twig.

We'll put it... We'll put it in a

box and we'll take it with us.

Put it in the box.

I haven't got a box.

And they'll look after it.

We'll pay the man to look

after it...

I've never been a very, you know,

big extrovert.

The thought of entering a big room

with loads of people

makes my stomach turn over

to this day.

The loss of being able to have

any type of anonymity

can be a real shock.

A lot of the publicity

seems to suggest

you're rather sort of a sexless

sort of girl.

Looks - is it a boy, is it a girl?

- No, it's Twiggy.

- LAUGHTER

How do you feel about that? Do you

mind about that? I don't mind, no.

It's a tough industry to be in

at such a young age.

What are your statistics now?

31, 23, 32.

Constantly being picked apart

and being judged on how you look.

What's your weight?

She would do TV chat shows,

and I always thought it was so rude

that the interviewer would comment

on her weight.

What do you both think that Twiggy

would be doing now

if she, let's say, gained 25lbs?

- Call her Trunky.

- LAUGHTER

What?

Trunky.

But the fashion writers tell us

that the bosom is back.

Do you feel perhaps you

can't compete?

But the bosom's never been out,

really.

I got knocked down for being

too thin

and flat-chested and...

But, you know, that's what

I look like.

Do you control your diet

in order to stay thin?

No, I...

You eat anything you want?

And then I got the whole thing

about being blamed

for being too thin

and encouraging girls not to eat.

But they report that many

German schoolgirls

gave up eating breakfast and lunch

in the hopes of thinning down

to Twiggy dimensions.

So I used to always come out

and say,

"Look, you know, I don't diet.

"I'd love to put on a little bit

of weight."

You know, I was just young.

I was young and, you know, skinny.

I'll just bring you a cup of tea.

Any sauce?

What do you want, ordinary or...?

Hot sauce.

Everybody all of a sudden

has an idea

that they know you physically better

than you do.

Got any pictures on the beach? No.

In the bikini?

I'd like to see that.

Oh, it just makes me so mad.

It just makes me so mad.

Have you discovered what men think

of this? The men you know?

They hate it.

Oh, have we ever!

What do they say?

"That is THE most obnoxious haircut

I have ever seen in my whole life."

In other words, you dress

for each other

rather than for men?

Yeah.

Bert Stern was doing

this documentary on me,

and he said,

"I've got this mate.

"He's a young and

upcoming comedian."

I mean, he wasn't the famous

Woody Allen that he became.

He said, "I want to put you

in a studio

"and he'll interview you."

Take three. Slate.

He's great, huh?

He's better than an actual slate.

LAUGHTER

What are your views

on serious matters?

Like what? I don't know, who's your

favourite philosopher?

I haven't got one. I don't know any.

Every time I think about it,

I can remember the feeling

and my knees going weak,

and my tummy going over.

Do you get a chance...? I bet you

get a chance to read much,

being a model.

Read what, books?

Oh, you know, the great literature.

It's just so - I have to curse -

f*cking typical!

I'm sorry. It is so patronising.

This need to make inferior.

I remember, because I'm sitting

on my hands.

And I remember clenching

my thighs together

and thinking, "Don't cry."

I felt really embarrassed.

To try to catch her out.

What 15-year-old can tell you who

their favourite philosopher is?

Then, in my panic,

my inner panic, I said to him...

..who's yours?

Oh, I... You know, I like...

I like them all.

Who?

All your basic philosophers.

Who?

Just all of them.

I don't know their names, though.

What are their names?

Oh, there's a host of them.

LAUGHTER

I like your Greeks, your Germans,

your...

Your enlightened philosophers,

your eclectics.

And he went, "Oh, your Greeks

and your Romans."

And I said, "Yeah, but what

are their names?"

I don't know their names, though.

What are their names?

Oh...

I got a call to say that

Vogue wanted to do

a photograph of myself

and David Bowie,

which I was thrilled about.

I mean, you've got to remember,

at that period he was huge.

Your name is a lyric

in one of the songs.

Yeah.

It was a song called

Drive-In Saturday.

Let me put my arms

around your head

Gee, it's hot,

let's go to bed...

And I was at home and it

came on the radio.

His name was always Buddy

And he'd shrug and ask to stay

She'd sigh like Twig

the Wonder Kid...

- NEEDLE SCRATCH

- Oh, my God!

David Bowie just sang my name

in a song!

And I can remember running

to the record shop,

and I didn't know the name

of the song.

I think I kind of sang

a bit of the chorus,

and he said, "Oh, that's

Drive-In Saturday."

And we flew to Paris to do

the photograph,

because Bowie was recording there.

He was such a lovely guy.

So open, so friendly, so bright.

I think the photograph is

a marvellous photograph, actually.

And I love the make-up we had on.

And that was done because I had

a suntan at the time

and he was very, very pale.

And she'd sigh like

Twig the Wonder Kid

And turn her face away

She's uncertain if she likes him

But she knows she really

loves him...

Completely inspirational.

Wow, I remember when Ken Russell

first showed me these films.

And I just fell instantly in love

with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.

And, you know, nobody

danced quite like them.

I'd never even thought of acting

or doing anything like that.

But then I met Ken Russell.

And he asked to see me

about this project

that actually never happened.

But I became good friends

with him and his wife,

Shirley, who did all the designing

of the clothes for all his films.

And you've got to remember,

in that period,

Ken Russell was the biggest director

in England.

He became my mentor, really.

In 1968, there was a new production

of the stage play,

the musical The Boy Friend,

and I'd gone to see it.

The next night, I was having dinner

with Ken and Shirley,

and I was just going on and on.

I loved it. It was brilliant.

And at the end of the evening,

after quite a few glasses

of champagne, he suddenly said,

"Yeah, I've always wanted

to do a musical.

"Let's do a musical

of The Boy Friend.

"And you can play Polly Browne,"

which is the lead girl.

"And it'd be so much fun!

What do you think?"

And I thought, "Oh, he's just had

a lot of champagne.

"He'll forget about this

in the morning."

And he rang me the next day, sober,

and said, "What do you think?"

And I said, "Oh, my goodness.

I don't know."

You know, I'd never acted before.

Ken loved the idea, and Justin

wanted me to do it and I wanted

to do it. But when he went to the

film company who owned it, you know,

they said, "Oh, great," you know?

"Ken Russell, smashing.

But we don't want her."

It was like that. Because I don't

blame him. I mean, I was a model.

They didn't know if I

could do it or not.

And Ken really fought for me

for, you know, a few months.

And he really... He could've gone

with somebody else.

But he didn't, he fought

and got me.

Which was funny, because when

we got the deal,

we had dinner, celebrating,

and he said,

"Can you sing and dance?"

I said, "No."

He said, "Well, you'd better go

and learn."

Very few performers I can think of,

or actors,

go into their first film

as the lead.

Julie Andrews in Mary Poppins,

Barbra Streisand in Funny Girl,

and there's Twiggy

in The Boy Friend.

So she's in excellent company

in that respect.

Come along, folks, what's happening?

Action!

To have

We plot to have...

Ken was the most

perfectionist director

I've ever worked with.

And if you didn't give 101%

all the time,

Ken would really lose his rag.

We scheme about, and dream about

And we've been known...

No, more this way, Twiggy!

We sigh for him

And cry for him

And we would gladly die for him

That certain thing called

the boyfriend.

I find her a very unique person.

Take one.

Thank you.

Of all the people I've worked with,

she comes nearer than anything

to perfection

in someone I've ever met.

This is a simple, honest truth.

She seems totally truthful.

She can't do a false thing

against anyone.

That doesn't mean to say she's

insipid and terrible.

She's got a mind of her own,

very good imagination,

and she is like

a rejuvenating force.

Very nervous when we

started filming,

but all the cast

were wonderful to me

and kind of took me

under their wing.

And I made some really good friends

from that film.

And Ken was amazing.

They'd been rehearsing a while,

and I was the last one to be cast.

And I walked in and Twiggy

was in the arms

of Christopher Gable, dancing.

I was struck dumb.

I was amazed that she was doing it,

because I'd been studying dancing

since I was five years old.

And so, you know, I was doing

what comes naturally.

And Christopher Gable

was a ballet star,

and the rest of the cast

were dancers,

and Twiggy was the newcomer.

We struck up a great relationship,

and she made me laugh a lot.

And I think that Twigs will have

learnt a huge amount

by working with Ken Russell.

Massive amount.

What an education!

Ken took the risk

to have this raw material,

if you like,

that he'd acquired - Twiggy -

and turn it into

something breathtaking.

I think that this is a girl who...

Maybe it's her background,

I don't know, but she was open.

Just open to anything that came.

And she made the most of it.

I always say to people, it was like

finding the Secret Garden.

It was like, "Oh, my God,

this is amazing!"

It was a wonderful,

wonderful experience.

Very amazing learning experience.

And from that day on, when I was in

the middle of filming, I thought,

"This is what I want to do."

Ken's vision of effectively

framing it -

a play within a play, a show within

a show -

was brilliant because it showcased

those great numbers

in the score, as these grandiose,

you know, flamboyant

and overly produced...

All the traits that you would

somewhat expect in an iconic film.

To see her be able to be

multi-dimensional

and still have the acting

come through...

Do you know what I mean? To be

quirky and funny and vulnerable

and all of that, and still do that

in an environment of musicality?

She's such a spirit,

and so unbelievably talented

as an actor.

I thought Twigs in The Boy Friend

was enchanting.

There was something so open

about her.

She doesn't have artifice.

She doesn't play games.

She works hard and tries her hardest

and does it and gives it to you.

She's a great...

She's a generous soul and she's

a generous performer.

When the film came out,

I got nominated for two

Golden Globe Awards,

which was very nice.

And then, lo and behold,

I won them.

I won one for

Most Promising Newcomer

and one for Best Actress

in a Musical/Comedy.

I'm very proud of them

and, er, they sit on my mantelpiece.

LAUGHTER

She was just THE leading model

three years ago,

and now she's come zooming back

to glory again

in the movie The Boy Friend.

And the reviews are just fantastic

of her performance in that.

Will you welcome Twiggy and Justin?

I was on a roll.

I was loving my life.

I was travelling and

meeting amazing people.

"Twiggy is sublime," says one.

"Lovely, endearing, exquisite."

That's delicious, isn't it?

I can't believe it.

Justin or "Joostin", do you like?

"Justan" de Villeneuve.

Justan?

Yeah, Justin. No, Justin.

Justin.

Just in time. You heard...

It was all falling apart then,

because he...

I think he was probably feeling that

I was separating myself from him.

We were around at the time that she

was offered the job with Ken Russell

to do The Boy Friend,

and I remember...

I remember Justin, I think he was

very, very nervous of her going into

the movie, because he was suddenly

dealing with people who were

a different

professional level from him.

And also, he was...

I don't know what went on, but he

was being too pushy with Ken

and Ken banned him from the set,

which was actually kind of

a relief for me.

Justin had his ideas

about the movie,

what the movie should be,

and there was no place for that.

Ken Russell was... You know,

he was the director.

Justin, I would say, was maybe -

I hope I'm not being mean -

was in way out of his depth.

Twiggy became a little bit phoney

because she was bored with fashion.

Being a model wasn't sufficient.

So, when she stopped,

it wasn't to do a film,

it was just to stop doing that.

Because we felt that everyone

would be bored with her.

And we knew that in the last

sort of three years -

the last year, obviously,

we've been doing the film -

the last three years that people

would say, "Oh, Twiggy's finished."

We were aware that would happen.

"She's a has-been." Which we,

you know, can take that.

I think quite early on,

Justin panicked at the

loss of control,

because he saw the loss of control

as inevitable.

And trying to work out

how this could last,

I think he thought it

was a phenomenon.

Whereas actually, when you

think about it,

Twiggy wasn't a phenomenon.

She was something that was very

grounded, very real.

The balance wasn't even.

Twiggy was the star.

They had, you know, this amazing

relationship going.

But I wouldn't call

that a partnership.

I think a partnership has to come

with both feeling

who they are within the team.

You... Er, you two are engaged now?

"Officially," it says.

Is that true?

Yes, sort of.

Sort of.

- Sort of officially?

- LAUGHTER

He was, you know, often asking

to get married.

But I thought I was too young,

which I was. I was a teenager.

I don't really want to get

married young, that's all.

I'd get married. It's Twiggy that

doesn't want to get married.

I'll get married one day.

Sorry to do that.

- LAUGHTER

- Really?

Oh, I'd get married.

You'd get married now?

Yeah.

But Twiggy wants to wait?

And I think, like most

teenage relationships,

you kind of grow out of each other.

And I think that's kind of

what happened.

Do you ever have rows?

Oh, yeah.

Good rows? I mean, good, healthy

rows or quick rows?

Quick ones.

Well, I usually end up crying.

And that signifies the end of

the row, does it?

Cos I'd been so protected,

you know, from the ages of 15 to 20,

you know, I'd lived in almost,

like, a bird cage.

You know, I didn't go out,

I didn't hang out with my friends,

I didn't...

Because what happened to me

happened, I worked.

And I was either, you know, at home

with Mum and Dad and my sisters,

or travelling with Justin.

You know, I don't think I was...

I wasn't really in love.

I was too young, I think.

It was probably infatuation

in the beginning.

And then, you know,

many years later, one finds out.

I didn't know at the time,

but I think he was philandering

a little bit and...

Anyway, very complicated.

You know, without going into detail,

it wasn't a happy time.

And in the end, you know,

I broke it off

one way or the other.

Twiggy rose effortlessly to fame

in the trendy '60s,

and within a year she was the most

sought after model in the world.

But at the peak of her brief

modelling career,

Twiggy retired.

Hello, it's me.

Now, at 22, comes a carefully

planned breakthrough into films.

I was then offered a movie called W.

Directed by a lovely American

director called Richard Quine.

Has he told you who your

leading man is yet?

No, I want to know.

Tell her, man.

I want to know.

Michael Witney.

W-I-T-N-E-Y.

Michael Witney. And he's done

seven pilots, Merv,

and not one of them has sold.

Mm. Oh.

And he's the leading man

on every one of them.

And we looked at him and said,

"It's impossible.

"This man has just got to make it."

Hello, my wife on line two.

How are you?

I think it took about three months

to sh**t in LA,

so that was nice.

And that's when I kind of realised

that there were other people

in the world,

and I kind of got a big crush

on Michael.

My mum always says it was

love at first sight,

which is so cute to hear about,

you know,

how your mum and dad met.

It's nice to...

..have it on film when they,

you know, first fell in love.

It's quite cute.

Another extraordinary thing, too,

about you,

I mean, you had no formal training

as an actress... No.

..did you, at all?

But, I mean, the film I did last,

which was, you know,

a total failure, W, was just

not a very good film.

But I loved doing it

and I learned a lot.

I don't think she takes herself

too seriously.

You know what I mean?

But do you want to be a star?

A movie star?

Er, I love doing films.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

I don't know about being a star,

though.

It's just good fun, making a film.

She lives to be alive

and not to be successful.

And to be... And to connect.

She's rare.

Moving to LA kind of gave me a bit

of a break and some freedom.

It was very different

than living in the UK.

This was a new chapter for me.

What's interesting about

girls growing up

is that sometimes they do reflect

the man that they're with.

And when Twiggy and Justin

were together,

she was his little girl, you know?

And then, when she met Michael,

she seemed to blossom and grow

and become more of a woman.

I think, when I met Michael,

it was actually the first

I fell head over heels

in love with somebody.

And the first few years together

in California were amazing,

and we had a great life.

And a new career opened up

by being in Los Angeles.

Never had a bad dream, baby

I didn't share with you

Seems like a good time dream

All a-comin' true

All a-comin' true, sweet babe

Keep a-comin' true

In spite of anything I say

No matter what I do...

Cos of my doing The Boy Friend,

it opened up more doors.

And because it was a musical,

I got offered a recording deal -

which led to me doing my first

proper album.

Here I go again

Off down the road again

Thinking thoughts

Days gone by

Here I am again

Singing my songs again...

You know, I think it's important

to remember that

at that period of time,

that period of music making

and record making,

there was no autotune,

no fixing things.

You know, you had to be able

to do it. And she can do it.

Swirls of giant colours swam

madly through my head

I looked around to find you...

I did a big concert tour in England

and ended up at the Albert Hall,

which is pretty scary.

And I filled it as well,

but it was scary.

If morning's echoes

says we've sinned

Well, it was what I wanted now

And if we're victims of the night

I won't be blinded by the light

Just call me angel of the morning

Angel

Just touch my cheek

before you leave me

Baby

Just call me angel of the morning

Angel...

I got offered a TV series -

a variety series.

We filmed one every week,

so you'd rehearse,

you know, on the Monday,

Tuesday, Wednesday,

and then you'd go into the studio

and record.

When will the day be?

The big day may be tonight.

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

Ginger La Rue!

And because of my knowledge

that I'd soaked up from Ken,

and he'd introduced me to all

these amazing singers

from the '20s and '30s,

we did lots of those songs

on my show and I loved it.

We were kids from a small street

We did very well on Wall Street

Though I never owned

a share of stock...

Every week, I'd have

on a special guest.

Hi, chicks.

David Essex.

Well, well. Look what's

just dropped out

of a cornflake package.

Can I join you?

I really wanted to have

Bryan Ferry on

because I was a huge

fan of Roxy Music,

and the director, for some reason,

decided it'd be fun to do it,

we were like school kids.

Don't know much about

science books

Don't know much about

the French I took

But I do know that I love you

And I know that if

you love me, too

What a wonderful world

this would be...

Somebody showed it to me about a

year ago, and it's very sweet.

What's frightening -

we both look so young!

But then we were, I suppose!

That's me and Bing Crosby.

Aw!

And I got to sing with him!

Amazing.

Have Yourself A Merry Little

Christmas. I was very nervous.

Have yourself

a merry little Christmas

Let your heart be light...

Usually for TV - well, often -

they record it and you lip-sync.

But Bing refused to lip-sync.

He liked singing live.

So we had to sing it live.

Have yourself a

merry little Christmas

Make the Yuletide g*y...

We shot it in the September.

Then he went off to play golf

in Spain,

and that's when he had his

massive heart attack and died.

Here we are, as in olden days

Happy golden days of yore

Faithful friends...

So when that Christmas show

went out, he wasn't around.

So have yourself

A merry little Christmas

Now.

I'm very proud of that.

A producer friend of mine

introduced me to Spector,

one of the biggest record producers

of that period.

He invited me to go up to his house

in the Hollywood Hills.

Well, it was more than a house,

it was a huge Spanish mansion.

Luckily, Michael was with me.

I rang the doorbell.

I was a bit nervous.

And the door opened

and this kind of big bruiser guy

with, you know,

a broken nose and everything went,

"Oh, hello, Twigs. How are you?"

And he was from London.

And he took us through.

And it was all very dark,

all the windows were covered

with curtains.

He showed us into this

amazing drawing room.

And we waited and we waited

and we waited.

And we were there for

probably over an hour -

until, you know, Michael said,

"I don't think he's coming.

"I think we should go."

And then, over the loudspeaker

system...

LAUGHTER

..came this kind of

maniacal voice, saying,

"Ah-ha-ha! I'm not going

to call you Twiggy.

"Ah-ha-ha!

"I'm not going to call you Twiggy."

And the door in the far corner

of the room opened

and Phil Spector appeared.

He came over, and I said,

"Hello, it's lovely to meet you."

He kept saying, "I'm not

going to call you Twiggy."

And I said, "Well, that's fine,

that's..."

And then he got out

a pack of cigarettes,

and he took two out

and put them both in his mouth

and lit...

I mean, it was really peculiar.

So he had these two cigarettes

sticking out of his mouth.

I tried to keep the conversation

going as normally as possible,

and then he kind of

walked across the room.

And as he turned,

he went into his jacket

and he pulled out a handgun.

I was like, "Oh, my God!"

And Michael just grabbed me,

and we managed to run out

and we heard one g*nsh*t go off.

And I was absolutely hysterical.

We got out of the house

and in the car,

and I cried all the way home.

Knowing what happened later,

I feel very lucky that we got out.

My career was still blossoming.

I was working in LA and in London.

Michael was struggling a bit,

but he landed a big beer commercial

playing a cowboy,

and it was shot in the desert

in Nevada.

Michael went out with the boys

on the commercial

and got very drunk one night,

and that's the first time I'd

kind of seen that other side.

Er...

It was... I didn't really

worry about it

because I just thought

it was a one-off.

But I think it was probably

a warning sign

that I didn't kind of pick up on.

Because when you're in love

with somebody, you kind of think,

"Oh, well, it won't happen again."

Do you foresee the day when

you're going to get married?

I mean, do you want to get married?

Oh, yeah. Mm. Very much.

I'd like to have children.

You would? Mm.

Not outside of a married

relationship? Not really.

I mean, I'm not... I'm not all for,

"Oh, you must get married."

I think it's up to people.

For me, I'd like to be married

when I have children,

but that's just my personal view.

I was 28 when we got married,

which, actually, in those days

was quite late to get married.

I wanted to get married. I thought

it would be a nice thing to do.

I knew Mum and Dad would like it,

although I think Dad, certainly,

was slightly worried

about Michael's problem.

But he would promise me

that it wouldn't happen again.

And it didn't, often,

for months and months and months.

So, rightly or wrongly, we went...

But I'm... You know, I'm glad we

did, because then I got pregnant

with my gorgeous Carly.

And then your life

changes completely

because, suddenly, you give birth

to a little creature

who you love more than anything

you can imagine you can love.

You are their protector

and their everything,

and my bond with my daughter is...

..amazing.

And, you know...

..I just thank...

thank everybody that I had her.

Motherhood's suiting you.

Oh, thank you.

Are you enjoying it?

Yeah. It's hard work.

I think all mothers are amazing,

I really do.

I can see why there's

a Mother's Day now.

LAUGHTER

Motherhood is a huge adjustment,

and to be working and have a child

is just complicated.

She's very contemporary because

it mustn't have been easy then.

It's not even easy now.

A fashion legend before she was 20,

she has since appeared in films

and sung and danced her way

through her own TV series,

and now, just into her third decade,

she's about to try her hand

at yet another career -

that of a serious actress.

My guest is Twiggy!

APPLAUSE

Every actor or actress

has got a favourite thing

that they've done

or that they're proud of,

and one of mine, certainly, is

the television version of Pygmalion.

It was a lot of work, but it was...

Hard work never hurt anyone,

my mum always said.

She's no use. I've got all the

records I want

of the Lisson Grove lingo.

I'm not going to waste

another cylinder on it.

Be off with you. I don't want you.

At the beginning of the play,

it explains that she comes

from Lisson Grove,

which is in north-west London.

And I'm from north-west London,

so I thought,

I've got that accent down.

That's just me.

A bit rougher.

Well, if my money's not good enough,

I can go elsewhere.

You were doing it totally in reverse

from the normal actress.

That's the way Eliza was written,

actually. Yeah.

But you have to learn how to unpick

the accent, don't you? Oh, yes. Yes.

Never mind going, "Yes, yes."

What did you do? Did you...

LAUGHTER

How did you learn how to talk posh?

It's hard. I'll bet. It's hard.

Is it? It nearly k*lled me.

Miss Doolittle? Here she is, Mother.

The whole show was predicated on

the fact of waiting for that moment.

Can she do it?

Can she speak with a posh accent?

POSH ACCENT: How do

you do, Mrs Higgins?

Mr Higgins told me I might come.

And, gloriously,

of course she could.

My aunt died of influenza,

so they said,

but it's my belief

they done the old woman in.

Done her in?

I mean, we had some great times

teaching her.

I was thrilled to be offered it

because, you know,

it's one of the great acting roles

for a woman, really - a young woman.

And the winner is... Tommy Tune.

CHEERING

Tommy became probably

one of the most successful

musical theatre directors

on Broadway.

In the back of my mind,

I always had this show

that I wanted to do with Twiggy,

and so I called her and I said,

"Could I talk you into coming to

New York and being in a musical?"

I said,

"Oh, when do we start filming?

And he said, "No, no, no, no, no.

It's going to be on Broadway."

And I said, "Oh, my God, I can't do

that!" And he said, "There's no such

"word as can't. Pack your bag

and get out to New York."

They just uprooted their life and

came to Broadway to make this show.

We were kind of like the same body.

She was a twig and I was a stick.

We were just bones on elastic.

It was how they were so opposite

and really interacted together

that fused their partnership.

We did a couple of numbers

that lasted ten minutes,

and that's a lot of dancing,

and she did it.

She learned it.

There is nothing like

going out on the stage

in front of a live audience,

singing Gershwin songs and dancing,

and you can feel their energy

coming back to you.

Obviously, there are...

You get amazing nights

where you feel

you're almost flying.

It's an extraordinary sensation.

As scared as I was about doing it,

once I'd got out there,

I mean, it becomes very addictive.

But I do remember the standing

ovation and the cheers

and I thought,

"I think we've done it."

While we were in the middle

of the run of My One And Only,

we had the exciting call

that they wanted Tommy and I

to perform at the Royal Variety

Performance that year.

It was so exciting,

and we did the water dance.

APPLAUSE

I think it was a little bit

like being...

..a bird let out of a cage,

because...

..I suddenly realised how wonderful

the experience was

and I forever, you know,

will thank Tommy Tune

for giving me that chance to do it.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I got nominated for a Tony Award,

which is the biggest award

you can get on Broadway,

so that's a big high.

What about your little girl? Is she

thrilled with what you're doing?

I think she thinks

all mums and dads do that.

You know, everyone sings and dances

and gets up on a stage and...

Cos, you know, she doesn't know

who I am or what I am

except, you know, I do what I do.

The days that I didn't have nursery,

I'd go in with her and I'd spend...

I used to spend lots of time

backstage and I was...

You know, all the dancers

were lovely.

And I used to collect all

the sequins on the floor

that fell off their costumes.

And I used to watch Mum

and Tommy rehearse,

and Tommy was so lovely

and was such a...

You know, he's been such

an important man in my life,

and I remember that time

very affectionately.

They had made this beautiful

little child,

and we all loved her.

Carly was just divine

and crazy as a loon.

She was so eccentric.

Do you remember you were obsessed

with Popeye?

I was. He was my first love.

And you used to ask me

for spinach every day.

You ate spinach. I used to walk

around with one eye closed,

and this is not...

TWIGGY LAUGHS

I'm not making this up.

You would only wear sailor suits.

And I wanted a pipe.

Obviously, a two-year-old can't...

A three-year-old can't have a pipe.

No. And so you used to wrap...

I used to get a plastic straw...

Yeah. ..and tie knots in one end

so it was like a bobble at the end,

and you used to walk around

with that in your mouth. Yeah.

There were months and months

and months where he didn't drink

and he was lovely

and everything was fine,

and then something would happen,

so he'd drown his sorrows.

As time went on...

..those times of drinking,

you know, got closer together.

It's a terrible, terrible illness.

You try everything to try

and help them to get help,

you know, but it's very,

very, very complicated.

I couldn't cope with...

..trying to do this massive show

on Broadway and rehearsals...

I mean, often we'd rehearse

till midnight at night,

like you do.

To come home and then have

to deal with that problem,

I couldn't cope with it, and, erm...

So it kind of ended

that relationship, really.

And I don't doubt that he loved me

and I know he adored Carly.

The drink...

..made him throw all that away.

And it's really sad, really.

AMBULANCE SIREN

He died...

..the day before my fifth birthday.

He had a massive heart attack and I

was alone with him in a restaurant.

It was quite a kind of, you know,

violent way to lose him.

I think it... You know,

it's had an effect on me.

But the way my mum, you know,

protected me from...

You know, there were photographers

trying to take photos of me

and asking me how I felt

about my father dying

when I was five years old,

and I think, you know,

she kept me away from all of that.

You know, obviously, losing your dad

was very traumatic,

but mainly because of you.

And mainly cos I was with him

when it happened. Yeah.

And I was so concerned that

you had to experience that

that I probably became

overprotective. I don't know.

He did go to AA and stop

drinking, he did stop,

but I'm afraid the damage

was done and...

And he was only 52.

It was terrible.

And although we were living apart,

you know, obviously,

when you've loved somebody,

you don't...

That doesn't really stop.

You know, the greatest thing

that he gave me was Carly,

and, you know, I'll always

hold that close to my heart.

And of course your life appeared to

be going along on a very even train

and then you had

a personal tragedy... Yeah.

If I may ask how you managed

to bounce back from that?

I think you do. You have to.

I was, erm... I had to for Carly.

I've got a little girl

who's six-and-a-half.

She's with us this evening, but not

in the audience, isn't that right?

And... So I had to for her.

I couldn't collapse as well.

So, suddenly, when you've got a

child and you're the breadwinner,

you kick into another gear, I think.

APPLAUSE

It's a whole new you.

Just everything going

and the hips moving.

Look at you - a real trampette.

It's wonderful.

LAUGHTER

Even the chastity belt is back.

That's not the Twiggy I knew.

The first time I met you,

it was like little Twiggy.

But I am very grown up now.

I'm 36 years old.

I got cast in a film

called Club Paradise.

I was very excited because the star

of this new film was Robin Williams,

who was a major,

major Hollywood star.

We had three months in Jamaica

doing this film.

Carly came out.

And Robin, we laughed a lot.

I can remember saying to him, "I'm

not going to look at you today,"

because once you get the giggles,

it's awful, isn't it?

TWIGGY LAUGHS

And I came back here

after the filming

and it was the summer.

I had been asked out on dates.

I was very, very, very cautious.

And mainly because of Carly.

Because I didn't...

You know, I wanted...

If I met somebody, and I wanted

to meet somebody, but I wanted...

It needed to be right for her

as well as for me.

So we invited Twiggs to dinner.

Robert Powell ringing up

my friend Mike King

and saying, "Richard Johnson and

his wife have just had a huge row

"and so they can't join us for

dinner at La Famiglia restaurant

"in World's End in London.

"Would you come to dinner?"

So I turn up at La Famiglia

and there's this gorgeous creature

sitting there at the table.

And me, Babs and Mike...

..spent the evening as gooseberries.

It was extraordinary.

I fell madly in love, obviously,

like you do in a new relationship,

and he... I mean, he was gorgeous.

Physically gorgeous, but he was

also a really sweet, lovely man.

Very kind of old-fashioned

in lots of ways.

When you've been through

a broken relationship or marriage,

you're very, very tentative

about entering into another one.

Am I going down the same road?

And, how could that love have died?

And ours didn't.

It lasted for 38 years,

up to this present moment. Yes.

So unless things go awful tonight...

TWIGGY LAUGHS

..we're locked in for another 38.

When Leigh and I did get together

and get married,

you know, I've got my daughter

and he's got a son,

so we became a new family,

so it's making all that work.

It's always very complicated and

people do it in very different ways,

but that worked for us.

I felt incredibly fortunate to

be able to call Carly my sister

and, Twiggy, as loving as I could

have wished for in a step-mum.

Here is the queen.

Come into our humble abode.

We were all met with garlands.

They put garlands around our necks

when we arrived.

How's the water? Warm?

Well, they probably have it heated.

Leigh was a very successful

stage and screen actor

when I first met him,

and he has done brilliant things

in his acting and, later on,

directing career.

But we made a pact that if we

were going to be together,

if one of us got a really good gig,

the other one would come.

Like, if I got it, he'd come

with me, and vice-versa.

Happy birthday!

So we weren't separated,

let's put it that way,

because I think separation

in our business

is very, very difficult,

and has proved to be

for many, many couples.

Excuse me, are you recording?

Yes. You know...

Say, "Turn over, action."

Turn over, action!

Oh, darling, we have smoked salmon.

What shall we put it on?

Soulmates, I think, is a very

good description for these two.

They do not like to be apart.

I've always said this -

my family life has always taken

precedence over work,

be it rightly or wrongly.

I think the thing

that first jumps out

is the love that they have

for each other.

And, coming from a broken home

and being around that kind

of unconditional love,

was just hypnotic and magical.

He's also a brilliant writer

and I love his wonderful poetry,

but, really, I just love him.

Finding each other in the world

of entertainment when you have

a level of fame is probably not

the easiest thing in the world,

so I think there was

a real normality

that my parents had

with her and Leigh.

Shortly after I met Leigh,

we were going down to visit

Paul and Linda McCartney

and the kids in their place

in the country,

and had a lovely evening.

And then, in the morning, we got

up and we came down for breakfast

and Paul was cooking us a very

delicious vegetarian breakfast,

and then he sat down

and he picked up a guitar.

Of course, he has a guitar

in every room.

And he said,

"Remember this one, Leigh?"

MUSIC: Blackbird

by The Beatles

Blackbird singing

in the dead of night

Take these broken wings

and learn to fly

All your life

You were only waiting for this

moment to be free

You were only

waiting for this moment to be free

You were only waiting

for this moment to be free.

Leigh said he'll never forget it.

It was quite wonderful.

I think that the thing

about Twiggy's humour,

which is actually

a little similar to my own,

is that she's self-deprecating.

..about this whole event.

You love the Duke, right?

Who wouldn't?

He's solid and dependable.

And, best of all, his mother's dead.

LAUGHTER

Enough said.

And she just has a kind of energy

that lends itself to comedy.

You know, cos there's this thing

that models are thick and stupid

and all they can do is, you know...

Which isn't... There may be some.

Yeah.

LAUGHTER

But I know thick

and stupid people... No!

..in other walks of life.

That's true.

LAUGHTER

Right?

It's true.

APPLAUSE

It's hard going into a show

which is already established.

And you're coming in

probably as yourself.

Usually a slightly heightened

version of yourself.

Botox? No, Parralox.

Well, it does exactly

what it says on the tin.

But it was divine having Twiggs on.

A change of tack here, a change of

image. You know, radical g*y pride.

Fists across America, darling.

Because you are a g*y icon.

Oh, am I?

Damon! Damon! Coming! Twiggy.

I got a call from Italian Vogue

and Steven Meisel, who is, I think,

one of the great photographers,

wanted to do a ten-page spread

for Italian Vogue,

a modelling spread,

which was, you know,

almost too much to turn down.

MUSIC: Connection

by Elastica

But I think it's a bit like

riding a bike, quite honestly.

I just fell into the old habits,

I suppose.

My first impressions of Kate

before I met her

was how gorgeous she was,

and she kind of reminded me of me

when I was very young.

And we're kind of, for models,

we're very similar body shape.

And, actually, when I was a judge

on America's Next Top Model,

sometimes girls would come on

and if they happened to be small,

you know, one of the judges

would say,

"Probably won't work

because you're too small."

So I'd kind of put up my hand

and say,

"Excuse me, I didn't do too badly

and Kate Moss didn't do too badly."

Connection is made...

I did the range for M&S for

a few years, which I loved doing.

When I joined Marks & Spencer,

it was in a pretty shabby state.

Customers had pretty much fallen

out of love with the fashion.

Twiggy was recognised by

the more mature audience.

She reminded the customers

of their youth -

of a time when anything

seemed possible.

And every time I wore something

in the commercials,

they would tell me that

it would sell very well,

so I said, "Well, let me do

a range," and I loved that.

I think we did some

really nice clothes.

I remember Stuart Rose and I driving

back from a city presentation,

there was an Evening Standard

news vendor,

and the headline just said simply,

"Twiggy saves M&S".

And that just says it all.

What comes next, Twiggy?

Through lovely Barbara Hulanicki,

she mentioned me to her friend

Mindy Grossman,

who was running HSN, which is

a huge shopping channel in America.

I had lunch with Twiggy

and her husband Leigh

and, by the end of lunch,

I literally looked at her

and I said, "OK, we need

to launch Twiggy London."

Her ability to connect with women -

all women - was so powerful.

The irony for me is that Twiggy

represented youth

and now she represents

another stage in her life.

The designing part of my career

has been very important to me,

and I've done many collections

over the years

and will continue to do so.

Super relaxed. Just a demo. OK.

It's going to be... Relax, relax!

Before The Rain.

Right, here we go, let's go for it.

She loves to work.

She loves to be in the studio

recording an album and singing.

Wakes up happy.

I remember sunshine in your eyes

But now I just see something

That I don't recognise

There's no running from...

I think the fact that Twiggy

is still,

after so many decades

of doing photography

and acting and now music,

the fact that she's still working

away at being in that world

is a real credit to her

because it takes a lot

to want to be in that world

for such a long time.

Do you remember who we were

before the rain?

I'm still very fortunate

that I, you know,

I get to do things which I love.

I wouldn't like to be

sitting at home retired.

That wouldn't suit me at all.

We both know that it's more

Than just the weather

that's to blame

What a shame...

Gorgeous.

I think Twiggy's career

has evolved as she has.

Charlotte, darling.

Twiggy here.

She brings a different notion

of what beauty can mean,

and it doesn't stop at 21.

SHE CHUCKLES

It keeps on going.

I was so flattered when

the lovely Charlotte Tilbury

asked me to be in... Well, I've

done two campaigns for her now,

along with some other gorgeous,

lovely girlies.

When Twiggy, at her age,

gets such an incredible

ambassadorship,

that changes the game.

I always say if you can see it,

you can be it.

They say that you stay the age

that you became successful.

She hasn't.

She's grown old beautifully

and she's done so many other things.

But I'm always going to

remember that image -

the first real supermodel

that you could relate to.

I think that people like Twiggy

remind women

that they can be themselves

and be beautiful,

and how complex

and different beauty can be.

For each person on this planet

to look different

is a beautiful and wondrous thing,

whether that be about the way

you look, the way you dress.

Your power is your individuality.

She embraces every sort of era

of her life,

and I've learned that from her.

She still has the energy

and curiosity

and ability to throw herself into

so many different things at once.

But I think that's part of

the reason for her longevity.

You can't really go too far or

in too many different directions

without seeing her image.

When you see postcards,

Audrey Hepburn,

Marilyn Monroe is always there.

Some people explode

out of their time.

How do we ever know

what that magic is?

She had it.

She epitomises an era

that will never go away.

It will be treasured by us.

And I think she is a treasure.

She is someone that I think

that people will always think of

as an icon - a true British icon.

She's a Dame. And now I'm a Dame.

I remember the day that I opened

the letter...

Oh, I've dropped it.

I've dropped my star.

..because I had absolutely

no warning.

I remember sitting down and I kept

saying, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!"

And Leigh kept saying, "What's

the matter? What's the matter?"

I said, "No, no, no.

It's good, it's good."

He said, "Congratulations.

About time you got this.

"We're all thrilled for you."

So that was nice.

She's just... She's who she is.

The success never altered her

in any way.

I do believe she could wake up

tomorrow and that would be it,

she'd say, "All right." You know?

She'd just get back to living.

She's exceptional in that way,

I think.

Being married to the lady

that I'm married to

has enriched my life enormously.

THEY LAUGH

Right, so, into the camera...

..erm, what do you think

your legacy will be?

TWIGGY CHUCKLES

Erm, I think her legacy is...

..you know, women are awesome

cos they are.

Oh, God.

I just... Without... I don't want

it to sound, like, sappy,

but I do love you, Mum,

with all my heart.

MUSIC: Be My Baby

by The Ronettes

People say Twiggy looks like a boy.

She doesn't. She's just adorable.

Twig. Yeah?

We've seen...

Really, we've seen lots and lots

of very good photographs of you.

We've never seen you move.

Would you dance for us? All right.

So won't you say you love me?

I'll make you so proud of me

We'll make them turn their heads

Every place we go

So won't you please

Be my, be my baby

Be my little baby

My one and only baby

Say you'll be my darling

Be my, be my baby

Be my baby now

My one and only baby

I'll make you happy, baby

Just wait and see

For every kiss you give me

I'll give you three

Oh, since the day I saw you

I have been waiting for you

You know I will adore you

Till eternity

So won't you please...