[intriguing music playing]
I honestly don't know how anybody
could be attracted to that. [chuckles]
I mean, she was not
She was vile, and she was not attractive.
Well, I wouldn't want
to meet her in a dark alley. [laughing]
So
It kind of baffles me
how she got any customers at all.
I mean, hitchhiking
and prostituting herself
I don't think that's the way our maker
intended us to use our bodies.
[woman] She's like the trifecta.
g*y, female, sex worker.
And k*lling white men.
So very easy to execute
with no conscience.
You know, we wrote for eight years,
up until her execution.
Then in 1997, she said, "So,
I'm going to tell you
the truth of my life and the crimes
because I wanna make it right with God."
-[keys jangling]
-[metal door clanking]
[music fades]
Hey. [chuckles]
-[door closes]
-Um
-Where do I sit? [laughing]
-[Jasmine] Here.
[laughing] Okay.
Who's who's this right here?
[Jasmine] This is Kay.
[Kay] Kay.
Hi.
-And that's who?
-[Jasmine] Jane.
-Jane.
-[Jane] Yeah.
-Hi, nice meeting you.
-[Jane] Hi.
[Jasmine] And Jasmine.
Jasmine! What's happening?
Hi.
Can I get a photo with you?
Hey, yeah, man.
-[man] One, two, three.
-[camera buzzes]
-Ah, I was not ready at all.
-[laughing]
-[man] Okay.
-[camera clicks]
-Thank you.
-[laughing]
-[indistinct chatter]
-I'm so glad you guys are here.
And, um, I was so concerned.
I had, uh, some freaky dreams, man.
I don't even want to mention the dreams.
I know Montel Williams, you know?
He has a bald head, right?
He was taking this stuff
and he was putting it
all over his bald head.
It cracked me up.
Let me let me see in the mirror
the way I look.
[curious music playing]
Out there, I would never wear this.
If you want me to,
I'll just roll with my childhood,
you know,
and roll up through everything
and and kind of like
so you'll get the information
that you need to, um
-Uh, whatever you want to do with this.
-[Jasmine] Mm-hmm.
Um, Jaz, you know, I give you
-Signature. Okay.
-[Jasmine] That's me.
You know, I give you [laughing]
I give you full permission
to do whatever you do
in the future with this, you know?
[softly] You guys
are gonna make millions off this.
[intriguing music playing]
[music fades]
[tender music playing]
When the last leaf of autumn
Has fallen to the ground
And the icy wind
Through the empty trees
Makes a howling sound
At first it drives you indoors
And then it drives you mad
That's when you know you need it
And you know you need it now
You need the sunshine and sea breeze
Soft sand and palm trees of Florida
-[screaming]
-Florida
When you need it bad
-We've got it good
-[growling]
When you need it bad
Come to Florida
'Cause we've got it good here
You need it bad
[Binegar] August in Florida?
Oh my gosh, it's hot.
[intriguing music playing]
And, of course, you know
Florida's a very transient state.
We have the the people that live there.
And then we have the people
that come there just in the winter.
We call them the snowbirds.
My name's Steve Binegar,
and I was a captain
with the Marion County Sheriff's Office
in Ocala, Florida.
And I was in charge
of the Criminal Investigations Division.
[wind blowing]
These sand roads like this
are all throughout the National Forest.
[footsteps treading]
The hunters call them pig trails.
[footsteps treading]
[birds cawing]
This was the Burress scene.
Troy Burress.
The company that he worked for,
Gilchrist Sausage
They had good sausage.
But it's [chuckles]
you know, it's like,
"Hey, our guy hasn't showed up."
"We don't know Maybe he's broke down."
[leaves rustling]
Then also, you know, his truck was found
literally out in the middle of nowhere.
There was nothing there.
-[birds chirping]
-[indistinct chatter]
There's nothing like a decomposing body.
I mean, it's like It's a smell.
I can I You know, when I'm talking
about it right now,
and I can almost smell it
and taste it in my mouth.
[officer] Follow the yellow road.
[insects buzzing]
[Binegar] How did this person
end up down this road,
and then how did his truck
end up eight miles away?
He knew who the suspect was.
This isn't a stranger-on-stranger
type of homicide.
[officer] Okay. This is Troy Burress.
[smacks tongue] Uh, before photo.
Uh, this is an after photo.
This is a tight shot of some b*llet holes,
and it kind of looked like
in there somewhere.
[Binegar] And then another body showed up.
[curious music playing]
[officer] This is Charles.
Nickname d*ck. Last name Humphreys.
[Binegar] The Humphreys m*rder
was more brutal.
There were seven b*ll*ts, not two.
And it's the same b*ll*ts.
Wonder if these are related.
It wasn't uncommon to do a fax blast
to all agencies in the State of Florida,
saying, "Does anybody
have anything similar?"
[camera shutters clicking]
-Information started coming back.
-[horse snorts]
Citrus had one body. Pasco had one body.
Dixie had one body. Volusia had one body.
We had two.
Seven men were k*lled
within a 12-month period.
-[indistinct radio chatter]
-All found dead in the woods.
As the cases began to progress,
we'd see the headshot more.
The passion of the person
who's committing these murders
is increasing.
The rage.
The first m*rder that we knew about
was Richard Mallory.
[officer 1] This is Mr. Mallory.
[Binegar] Found in December of '89.
[officer 1] Mr. Mallory.
-[officer 2] His car.
-[officer 1] His car.
[Binegar] In every case,
the victim's vehicle was found
in some other part of the state.
Seats were pulled forward.
Same description of the projectiles
as the other victims.
All white, middle-aged men.
There were used rubbers and a blonde hair
found at one of the crime scenes.
It's like, "Wait a minute.
This is a woman out here doing this?"
[music fades]
[car engine whirring]
[man] They were traveling
on this road right here.
-Coming around this bend.
-Coming around this corner.
Traveling through here,
ran off the road, hit this gate.
Uh-huh.
Went through the gate,
on into these bushes here,
where, when the car came to a stop,
they got out, took the tag off,
started wiping it down, uh,
took some belongings they had in there,
and beat feet down the road.
Here you'd been investigating
for how long, months?
Oh yeah.
And you first get this break, and you go,
"Oh my goodness, it's a woman."
-Were you shocked?
-Yeah, I was. I
Some of the other investigators
had played with that idea.
Said this possibly could be woman.
This is really the turning point
in the case that I think,
it's when we found out
that two women had the car
of a middle-aged victim who was missing,
who was traveling from Jupiter, Florida,
all the way up to Arkansas,
who never got to his destination.
It's like, okay, now we've got something
we can sink our teeth into.
Something we can be looking for.
So then, after that,
we talked to witnesses.
We get a composite
of two women that were seen in a car.
And when we started spreading them
all over the country
and started getting
information back and leads,
then the ball started rolling,
and things started happening for us.
And we got a car coming.
[vehicle approaching]
That's her. That's the one
that talked to, uh, the girls right there.
And reported it to us.
[intriguing music playing]
These drawings came out in the newspaper.
Two women are running around Florida,
sh**ting guys.
And I said,
"There has to be a reason why."
[inaudible]
[Giroux] And I was driven to find out
what that reason was.
Well, it's a landmark case
in, uh, criminal investigation
because of the you know,
the female aspect.
The latest John that we just identified,
his vehicle was on I-75.
[Giroux] I'm Jackie Giroux.
I'm a producer.
I was the first person to sign
Aileen Wuornos to do her life story.
[man] I'm glad
that I didn't take them nowhere.
You know, if I didn't get their car fixed,
they might've took me down the road
and done me in or something.
-[woman screaming]
-[Giroux] In '87,
when I started really producing,
all they wanted
was stories about true crime.
[siren wailing]
[officer] We're looking at similarities
of these two girls.
Hopefully, we'll find some new evidence.
We just extended our search
to about another square mile
that we're trying to look into.
My mother called me up and said, "I think
I just saw this female serial k*ller."
And I said to my mother,
"You should have given her my card."
[Giroux] It was meant to be for me
to find that story.
So I flew to Florida,
and my brother drove me to various bars,
including the Last Resort Bar.
I hung up, uh, like,
small Post-it notes saying,
"If you are the female who's k*lling men,
I'd like to do your story."
And I signed my name and my phone number.
That was it.
[man speaking indistinctly]
[Giroux] I go back to Hollywood.
I just wait.
Yeah, I just waited.
-[Aileen laughing]
-[man speaking indistinctly]
[indistinct chatter]
[Binegar] As this thing went more public,
we got over 500 leads right off the bat.
Several names kept coming up
for the blonde.
Everything pointed to the fact
that she was the most aggressive.
Probably most likely was our sh**ter.
We started looking at the pawn shops.
And we discovered property
that belonged to Richard Mallory.
So now that we've got a fingerprint
The fingerprints don't lie.
Aileen Carol Wuornos.
[curious music playing]
[inaudible]
[phone ringing]
[officer 1] Who is this?
[officer 2] Jerry,
she won't leave with us.
We can get her outside the bar.
All we all we gotta do is pull out front
and blow the horn.
She'll come out here and talk to us.
But we need to get her outta there now.
Is everybody ready to go, Jerry?
All right, buddy. Bye.
[Binegar] I always give credit
to the good Lord
because I believe He was guiding us,
and I know He was guiding me
in this investigation.
[man] Lee, come here, baby.
[Binegar] And I believe that, uh,
He delivered her to us.
You go back up here?
-[officer 2] Go in the bar.
-[Aileen] What do you need to know?
[officer 1] If you go back up here,
to this main road
-[Aileen] Down on
-it goes this-a-way.
Sheriff's Department, Volusia County.
Step over here, ma'am.
[Aileen] What the hell is going on here?
[indistinct chatter]
[Aileen] I want to know
what the hell is going on here.
[indistinct chatter]
All right, I'd like to know
why I'm being arrested, by the way.
-[officer] What did I just tell you?
-[Aileen] No, you didn't tell me nothing.
How many times do I have to tell you?
You're under arrest.
-For what?
-For a warrant!
-For what warrant?
-A warrant!
[Giroux] Then I get a call.
The day she was arrested.
[continues indistinctly]
[Giroux] She says,
"I'm the girl you're looking for."
"I'm the girl
who's been sh**ting the men."
She had read my note.
[indistinct conversation]
[Giroux] And she said,
"Well, first of all,
do you do movies or books?"
[laughing] I thought, "Okay,
she's she's auditioning me, right?"
I said, "Mostly movies."
She goes, "Great.
My story is unbelievable."
[tender music playing]
[Aileen] Okay,
so I'll start just explaining, okay?
So when I was little,
I was adopted
by my grandmother and grandfather.
My grandmother
was really clean and decent.
Did not swear.
Did not drink.
She was into Jesus Christ.
Grandfather was a sergeant
in World w*r II.
He was very stringent,
but he was not nasty.
A very decent, moral upbringing.
[Aileen] Not any impurities
or, uh, perversion
or battery or any of that jazz.
He accidentally hit me with a belt.
Oh my goodness, one time.
So what, you know?
It was it wasn't that big of a deal.
At around probably 14,
my grandmother died
from cirrhosis of the liver.
I'll always miss her.
And I'll always love her.
At around 15, I ran away from home.
I got caught, went to
Adrian's Training School for six months.
When I got out, I hit that road,
and I split from the state.
On the road, 24-7, for four years.
Nonstop.
I must've been r*ped, I'd say, about
30 times, maybe more.
[Jasmine] I'm sorry about all the r*pe
that you've had.
-It doesn't bother me because I
-[Jasmine] No?
It's been
-I'm tough, you know?
-[door creaks]
A a wussy woman, it would bother her.
But I'm tough, man.
I've been through hell, uh, Jaz.
-I think a lot of women understand.
-[whistles, chuckles]
You know, that who've been r*ped
all their life, like they
-You get messed up, and you dream of it--
-I was g*ng r*ped.
I was g*ng r*ped twice when I was a kid
by my high school friends.
My high school friends, man,
g*ng r*ped my a*s.
I got to take a leak.
[laughs]
[radio host] Southern Orlando's
Magic 107.7 FM.
[reporter] Well, tonight, a woman sits
in a Daytona Beach jail.
Sheriff's deputies say
she may have k*lled seven people.
Their bodies were found dumped
near major highways in Central Florida.
Tips led deputies to Daytona Beach
and a woman identified
as Aileen Carol Wuornos,
a 34-year-old transient.
She was arrested eight days ago,
and on Wednesday was charged
with the m*rder
of Richard Mallory of Clearwater.
[officer] There are women
who have k*lled children
and elderly people in nursing homes,
but a female who's a a predator
that goes out seeking men,
it's a little different.
[man] Anyone that would resort
to that sort of violence
deserves the maximum punishment.
[reporter] The motive behind these murders
is unclear,
but authorities say Wuornos is a k*ller
who robs, not a robber who kills.
We have identified, uh, pieces of property
from, uh from different victims
that were either in her possession
at the time of her arrest on the ninth
or were in storage, uh, facilities.
There was some money taken
in most of the cases,
but, uh, it didn't appear to be necessary
to take the life of these men.
This is Judge Briese, everyone.
You are here for the purposes
of a first appearance hearing of charge.
You do have a right to remain silent.
Anything you say can and will be
used against you in court.
[clerk] Do you solemnly swear
the testimony you're giving
will be the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth?
-[Briese] Is it Aileen Wuornos?
-[woman coughing]
-Wuornos.
-[Briese] Wuornos?
Ma'am, you are here
on a warrant signed by
Aileen Wuornos used to call me,
and we talked about 25 to 30 times.
No, sir.
[Giroux] She would call collect,
and my daughter would answer the phone.
[Briese continues indistinctly]
[Giroux shouting] "Hey, Mom,
the serial k*ller's on the phone!"
[laughing]
I wanted to make
the right movie about her.
"You tell me your story,
and I will write it."
-That was our deal.
-[inaudible]
[Giroux] And I said,
"Do you have a lawyer?"
And she said,
"Yes, it's Russell Armstrong."
I said, "You need to have him call me."
[Briese] Let me
let me, uh, cover the bases here.
-Are you working now?
-No, sir.
-Do you have any sources of income?
-None at all.
-Checking or savings accounts?
-Nope.
-Own any real estate?
-Nope.
-Have any children?
-No.
You've got a public defender.
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you.
[reporter 1] Wuornos had been traveling
Central Florida
with her l*sbian lover, Tyria Moore,
when the killings took place.
Her attorneys say
Wuornos made the confession
to Volusia County deputies
only when her girlfriend, Moore,
asked her to.
[reporter 2] Authorities say
Moore is a material witness
and aren't filing charges against her.
-[detective] Your full name is Tyria?
-Tyria.
-[detective] T-Y
-T-Y-R-I-A.
[detective] Okay.
[Gillen] When did you decide to leave Lee?
[Tyria] In December of '90.
[Gillen] Why?
Because I'd seen composite drawings on TV
of two females
and they had spoke of the car
that we had wrecked.
At that point, I This is enough.
You know, I've had enough.
I can't I'm not going to go to prison
for something that she did.
And that that was like
drawing the line right there.
[Gillen] Then what happened?
Then, in December of '91,
um, law enforcement contacted me.
There was officers from Florida
that wanted to speak with me,
then I knew exactly why they were there.
And I told them right from the beginning
that, you know,
I had nothing to do with it,
but I am willing to to help you.
You came back to Florida
and had conversations with her
that were taped by the police.
She didn't know that.
Why did you decide to allow your
phone conversation to be taped with her?
At the time, I didn't do it
for the police at that time.
I did it for myself.
Were you afraid of being arrested?
Yeah, I was I was scared.
Did police make a deal with you?
You won't go to jail
if you testify against her?
No.
Why did you get her to confess?
I was just living with her
for four and a half years.
I know her better than,
I think, anyone else does.
And I think she's very intelligent.
She knows how to work around things.
She could lie her way out of anything.
And that's mainly why I wanted her
to confess to the murders.
It's because I knew
she could lie her way out of it.
-[detective] Good morning.
-[Aileen] Good morning.
[detective] How are you?
-You remember me the other night?
-[Aileen] No, I don't.
[detective] I was the one that gave you
the coffee and the cigarettes
when you were arrested.
[sighs]
[detective] How you doing?
Well, I came here to confess to m*rder.
[detective] Okay. Let me stop you
just a second, okay?
If you cannot afford to pay for counsel,
we will furnish you with counsel
if you so desire. Do you understand?
-What does counsel mean?
-An attorney.
Oh yeah.
Well, like,
what's an attorney gonna do? I
I know what I did.
I'm confessing what I did.
[voice breaking] Go ahead
and put the electric chair to me.
[crying] I'm gonna I just don't
[sobbing]
[crying] I should have never done it.
[sobbing]
If you want an attorney at any time,
you just say,
"I'd like to have an attorney."
I can't advise you
one way or the other what you should do.
It has to be solely your decision.
I don't know what to do.
I know that
I don't want my girlfriend involved,
because this is why I'm doing this.
Tyria Moore's her name.
They've been talking to her parents,
detectives and all.
She did not do anything.
And I'm trying to make this clear.
That's why I'm confessing.
[Gillen] Were there nights
where you were trying to sleep,
laying next to you is a woman
who you know by now has k*lled people,
that you were just sickened, disgusted?
Yeah, I thought about it. A lot.
I thought, you know, "How could I
How could I be in love
with someone that that has k*lled?"
And it I don't know if it's a question
that can be answered.
You know, why I why I did love her.
She was just she was a great person.
She was very caring.
And, you know, I did fall in love.
[intriguing music playing]
Tyria really was kinda on the shy side.
[chuckling] It was not easy
to be a g*y woman in the 1990s.
She got out of Pennsylvania,
came to Florida
to try to start a new life.
It was a real relationship
between the two of them.
Tyria couldn't let go
any more than Wuornos could let go.
I kept asking her stuff about Tyria,
and she was going,
"I don't want her to be involved.
I'm going to protect her."
And then there was, "Back off from Tyria."
"This was all me,
and I'm here to tell that story."
[tender music playing]
[Aileen] I was on the road from 16 to 20.
I'm hitchhiking, and I'm hooking.
Running into a lot of situations
'cause I never had a place to live.
I slept under viaducts,
abandoned homes, cow pastures.
I finally wound up in Daytona Beach.
I got me a job at a a motel.
I was 20 years old.
I was going out with guys
and all that stuff
and trying to fall in love with
[laughing] you know
It's not cool being, uh, alone.
It turns into a real drag.
And I met this guy,
and he was a mama's boy.
His mom didn't want me to be with him,
and he was going to go back to mama,
and I told him if he did,
I'd sh**t myself.
So I wound up sh**ting myself
with .22 in the stomach.
It went right through my bod
and just missed my spine.
Ray was another guy I fell in love with.
Probably around 24, 25.
But he was whiskey-bent,
bottle-bent alcoholic,
and every time he started getting
really, really drunk, he was a*usive.
So I was thinking about
going ahead and k*lling myself again.
But I never did.
So I head out to the Keys.
I decide I'm going to be a beach bum
in the Keys. [laughing]
And I met Toni,
the first l*sbian, at 28 now.
And, uh, this is my first encounter
with lesbianism.
[laughing] And she turns me on to it
for the first time in my life.
[reporter 1] She's been called
the hooker from hell.
[reporter 2] Police say Aileen Wuornos
terrorized men along Florida's highways,
luring them into her web of death.
[reporter 3] She's a wild, boozing,
l*sbian prost*tute, she admits.
[man] We're dealing with violence,
extreme violence.
You look at women as being frail.
Uh, this woman's not frail.
This is probably the meanest woman
I ever met in my life.
She is not a monster. She is not a butch.
Um, she is a very caring, compassionate,
feminine human being with a heart of gold.
I saw her picture in the newspaper,
and I get butterflies.
Then, when I was out on the lawn mower,
like ten days later,
Jesus asked me to reach out to her.
"I want you to write her a letter
and tell her about me."
"I want you to help her."
[reporter] You're looking
at expectant parents.
Bob and Arlene Pralle
are going to a judge's office
to adopt suspected mass m*rder*r
Aileen Wuornos.
A few moments later,
they emerge with the piece of paper
that makes Wuornos their legal daughter.
How do they feel about that?
Euphoric. I just want to burst into tears.
[Arlene] I wanted to be a mom forever.
It was awesome.
I mean, just unbelievable.
We talked every single night.
-[indistinct conversation]
-Our phone bills were $1,200 a month.
-And we talked, and we talked. We prayed.
-[camera shutters clicking]
-And I said, "Why do you keep hedging
-[indistinct conversation]
about wanting
to accept Jesus in your heart
and have the same peace that I've got?"
And she said,
"Do you really want the truth?"
She said, "Because if I accept him
and I'm born-again,
I feel you're just going
to leave me like everybody else."
"Leave you?"
I said, "I just want to make sure
if something happens to you,
you're going to heaven."
She said, "Well, in that case, can I do it
right now, right here over the phone?"
Is that incredible?
It was a God thing.
It was truly 100% a God thing.
We've been together now
since the end of January,
and yet I have never once
seen this portrait
that the newspaper is portraying.
[intriguing music playing]
She recognized, "I'm the topic,
the top topic of conversation."
"I'm a star."
And she ordered everybody around
like Faye Dunaway on steroids.
Because the news media made her
the queen of serial K*llers.
And that was her notoriety.
She wanted to be famous.
What do you know about Aileen that you
feel the rest of the world doesn't know?
I had never, ever, ever been on any TV,
not even a blurb in a newspaper.
Lee was so excited about it.
And she'd call and say,
"Oh, you did awesome."
"I have these other people
I want to send you."
-It was like she was my agent
-[indistinct conversation]
forcing me to go out
and do all these things.
-Like, no, I don't want to do this.
-[indistinct conversation]
[Arlene] I find myself on the cover
of the local Ocala papers.
Glamour magazine. They came to the farm.
I mean, it was never, ever ending.
All the time.
Now, she was nice sometimes,
but there were other times
she was like a tyrant
of, "How come you haven't found Dawn yet?"
"Don't you want this story?"
She told me,
"Go to Michigan. Go see Dawn,"
that Dawn had her younger story.
She knew everything about her.
They were best friends.
-[railroad crossing bell ringing]
-[children chattering]
[Giroux] So I go to Michigan,
it's the middle of a snowstorm,
and no one in Michigan
knew this story. No one.
I was like the first person
to break the news.
[woman] She had a horrible childhood.
There is a lot of people
that's had bad lives,
but not from day get go.
This poor kid had a child,
you know, was r*ped and had a child.
Her grandmother died,
and she was abandoned,
living out, you know, in the woods.
And her older brother and sister
got to stay in houses.
That's where she got to be a prost*tute.
She needed food and things,
cigarettes for her brother and sister.
Why didn't they take care of her?
When they told me she was a prost*tute,
I had no idea what a prost*tute was.
I didn't. [chuckles]
I was like, "What's that?" [chuckling]
They said she had a baby.
And I said, "She had a baby?"
And she did.
And I I never asked her about it
because I knew it'd bother her.
But she used to Her and her sister stayed
at my house a lot. So did her brother.
And we all wore each other's clothes.
Even Keith was about all of our same size,
and Ducky and all of us.
And you could tell she did. That's
And I thought,
"Yeah, she did have a baby."
You know, but I just never
brought it up to her.
[intriguing music playing]
The feeling I walked away was
nobody was looking at the cookie jar.
Those kids started drinking
when they were like ten years old,
sneaking booze and everything.
Nobody was guiding them.
Nobody was educating them.
Nobody was telling them the difference
between right and wrong.
[reporter 1] 34-year-old Aileen Wuornos
pleaded not guilty
to the charges she faces.
She will undergo a psychiatric exam
in the next week or so.
[man] There's a report of
a prior suicide attempt, for one thing.
[reporter 2] She was abandoned by her mom
at the age of six months.
Her grandmother discovered her
in an attic covered with flies.
[reporter 3] Heavy use of drugs
and alcohol since she was 13.
[woman] I think her abuse led
to her acting like she did.
I think she could maybe be saved
with some therapy.
[reporter 4] Aileen Wuornos faces
five first-degree m*rder charges,
and there could be
as many as five more indictments to come.
If she's found guilty
on any of those charges,
she could end up facing
Florida's electric chair.
[reporter 1] Only police know where
28-year-old Tyria Moore has been living
for the last 11 months.
She's reportedly hiding out of state
and showed up for a deposition today
only after the court
ordered her to appear.
The strong bond between the two women
led Wuornos to confess to k*lling
at least five of the men.
While police recorded
their telephone conversations,
Moore allegedly convinced Wuornos
to admit to the killings.
[camera shutters clicking]
[Arlene] I went to the pre-trial hearings
every single day.
[indistinct conversation]
[Arlene] And soon as it was over,
I went to the jail
and spent the evening with her
through glass.
God just gave me
the strength to do all of it
because that was
what I was supposed to do.
[judge] You've put me
in a difficult position.
I've got
My first involvement
with Aileen Wuornos was her case.
Richard Mallory was assigned to me.
[attorney] We think
it is absolutely necessary.
[Graziano] I think you don't really know
what happened
if you don't consider the why.
She k*lled seven men.
She readily said
during that same time period,
she had had 400 johns.
[indistinct conversation]
[Graziano] She hadn't k*lled any of them.
Why these seven?
Why didn't she k*ll all of them?
She didn't k*ll a single person
before she met Tyria Moore.
Think about that.
Mm-hmm.
Tyria Moore was the catalyst
that pushed her over the edge.
[indistinct conversation]
Counsel, approach the bench.
[indistinct conversation]
[Arlene] Lee did not know
about the recordings at all.
She never knew
that the police were right there with Ty,
and it was all fake.
Fake, fake, fake, to get her to confess.
[attorney] Why did you answer
those questions?
[Tyria] I was scared.
[attorney] Who were you scared of?
I was scared of being arrested.
[attorney] When you lied to Miss Wuornos
about these things, why did you do that?
Because I wanted her to talk to me
about the offenses so I would be cleared.
[attorney] Okay.
-[tape clicks]
-[Tyria on phone] Hello?
-[Aileen] Ty?
-[Tyria] Yes?
-[Aileen] Hi.
-[Tyria] Hey.
What the hell's going on, Lee?
They've been up to my parents' again.
They've got my sister now,
asking her questions.
I don't know what the hell's going on.
[Aileen] Huh.
What are they asking
your sister questions for?
-[Tyria] I don't know. [sobs]
-[Aileen] Hm.
[Tyria] Lee, they're coming after me.
I know they are.
-[Aileen] No, they're not, Ty.
-[crying]
Why are they asking
so many questions then?
-[Aileen] Honey, listen, listen, listen.
-[sobbing]
[Aileen] Do what you gotta do, okay?
[Tyria] I'm gonna have to
because I'm not gonna go to jail
for something that you did.
This isn't fair. [sobbing]
My family is a nervous wreck up there.
My mom has been calling me all the time.
[crying] She doesn't know
what the hell's going on.
-[Aileen] Ty?
-[Tyria] What?
[Aileen] I'm not going to let you
go to jail.
[crying] I don't know whether I should
keep on living or if I should
-[Aileen] No, Ty, Ty, listen.
-[sniffling]
What if they don't believe me?
-[Aileen] Ty.
-[Tyria] What?
[crying] I love you.
[Tyria crying]
[Aileen] If I have to confess everything
just to keep you
from getting in trouble, I will.
[Tyria] Okay.
-[Aileen] Don't worry, okay?
-[Tyria] Okay.
[Aileen] I love you.
[Tyria exhales] Well, do it now.
Get it over with.
-[Aileen] Right at this very moment?
-[Tyria sniffling] Yes, get it over with.
[Aileen] All right.
-[Tyria] Okay? You can call me back later.
-[Aileen] Okay. But be careful.
-[Aileen] All right.
-[Tyria] All right. Okay, bye. [sniffles]
[tape stops]
[silence]
[Arlene] Can you imagine the betrayal?
They took advantage of her.
They've already put her in a situation
with Tyria that
She's going to say anything
to protect her.
They weren't looking for the truth.
I don't know how to put this, but
The pissing on the system.
[clacking]
[Graziano] I mean, she obviously
really loved this woman.
To her detriment.
[somber music playing]
[Aileen] When I met Toni,
it was totally different.
A lot of loving and understanding
each other's ways and stuff.
And so I started to agree
with the lesbianism.
I was hooking all over in the Keys.
Then I started on the highways.
I had double-barrel shotguns to my head,
.357 Magnums to my head.
So when a cop friend of mine
told me to go ahead and get a g*n,
it was purely for protection.
[intriguing music playing]
I had to do what I had to do.
I'm with Toni for about a year,
but she splits on me.
And I finally wound up back in Daytona
and met Tyria.
[tender music playing]
So when I met Tyria,
we never left each other
except for when we worked.
And I was a cook. I was cooking for Ty.
I cleaned the place for Ty.
Ty didn't do nothing.
She didn't have to move a muscle.
I loved her so bad.
She did not have to move a muscle.
[seagulls cawing]
[Jasmine] And do you hear from Ty
anymore? Or just
I just No, I haven't seen Ty.
I haven't heard from Ty since 1992,
I think it's been.
[Jasmine] Do you miss her?
[whining] Yes. [laughs]
Miss her a lot. I always miss her.
And I'll always love her.
And I'll be thinking about her
the day I'm ex*cuted.
-I'll be thinking about her leaving.
-[Jasmine] Mm.
[inhales deeply]
I loved her so bad. [exhales]
And the only reason I carried that g*n
is 'cause I loved her so much.
I wanted to make sure
that I got home alive, in one piece.
So I'd be another day breathing with her,
you know?
[Jasmine] Yeah.
But it didn't turn out that way.
It got all screwed up.
[tsks]
-[laughs]
-[Jasmine] I'm sorry.
[tender music playing]
[music fades]
[Gillen] Who do you think Lee Wuornos is?
Amoral at best.
Uh, immoral at worst. And, uh
I'm I'm afraid she is indicative
of of what's coming in in our society
and has been evolving
in the past 30 years.
[man] He's got the whole world
In His hands
He's got the whole wide world
In His hands
[reporter] Not unlike
a religious revival meeting,
Tanner supporters sing hymns
and sing praises
to the state's attorney's
anti-p*rn*graphy efforts.
[man] We especially thank God
for John Tanner.
Obscenity kills women and children.
[cheering]
The decent people are going
to demand the laws be enforced,
and the pornographers have got to go.
John Tanner was the lead prosecutor
and running in the election
for state's attorney at the same time.
in Volusia County are going to
Aileen Wuornos was everything he detested.
And he thought
she would be an easy conviction.
-[man] Everything's set up. Go ahead.
-[Gillen] Okay.
Go ahead and what, John?
You want me talking or
So you were assigned to be the judge
on the Wuornos case.
What happened?
[inhales] The state, uh,
about a month prior to trial,
filed a motion to disqualify me
or recuse me.
Why?
Uh
I can't really tell you. Uh
[Graziano] This was a direct attack on me
that I was not the person
they wanted to try this case.
[continues indistinctly]
[Graziano] They knew that I would give
this woman a fair trial.
And they had no intentions
of that ever happening.
Now you've got to look
at the mental status of the person
at the time they make the confession
and what may be factors
causing them to do it at the time.
You wanted to have other evidence
brought in regarding the confession.
[Graziano] Yes.
But obviously, in your being so vigorous
in what you were doing,
they didn't like you.
They went and got you taken off the trial.
Uh, I guess so.
Kind of a backhanded compliment.
Um, I guess so.
[Graziano] I was angry.
I was angry that
[Gillen continues indistinctly]
[Graziano] Tanner got his way.
[Gillen] But in looking at this case, um
[Graziano] And there's nothing
I could do about it.
It seems like it's a good possibility
that it could be because you're a woman.
I would hope not.
[helicopter hovering]
[radio host] Partly cloudy tonight,
some patchy late night fog is possible
with a low of 55.
And the At Work Network continues,
coming next.
[reporter 1] What makes this
more than just another bizarre story
about a string of murders
is the very fact
that Lee Wuornos is a woman.
And if found guilty,
she would win the distinction
of being the nation's
first female serial k*ller
who violently confronted her victims.
[reporter 2] In Hollywood,
it was as though a siren sounded.
A new true-crime tale
was ready-made for the movies.
Been dead about 24 hours.
[reporter 3] Wuornos was but a sketch
on a wanted poster
when TV producers started calling
the Marion County Sheriff's Office
looking to make a deal
with investigators working the case.
Entry wounds are small.
[reporter 4] Binegar
and two other sheriff's deputies
hired attorney Rob Bradshaw
to field the calls from Hollywood.
I'd talk to one and they'd say, "Oh yes,
CBS told me you just signed with Lorimar,
and Lorimar told me
you signed with CBS." I'm like
[reporter 4] Deputy's competitor,
Jacqueline Giroux, is quick to challenge
what they're up to.
It would be very altered
to have three sheriffs
and, uh, someone who's turning
state's evidence to go in there
and be discussing their case
with CBS and Republic Pictures,
when, uh, that's only
supposed to come out at the trial.
You get any fingerprints out of here?
Uh, nothing. Just some beer koozies,
some cigarette butts
[metal grinding]
and blonde hair.
-These three cops made a deal with CBS
-Major!
Captain Binegar on line two.
[Giroux] before she even pled a plea.
Steve, what's happened?
We arrested her, but she's
[Binegar] We wanted this story
told accurately,
and we wanted the people
who participated in this
to be portrayed in the role that they
that they had in this investigation.
I never discussed dollar amounts
with anybody.
If I was part of a project,
I wanted to make sure it was right.
That was it.
I mean, we'd go
from heroes to zeros, you know, and
and it's like, how did this even happen?
It's apparently
a very dog-eat-dog world. [chuckles]
You know? I mean, it ended up
personally costing me my position.
Now, just in case anybody's wondering
where my loyalties are,
they're right here
in this room. All right?
-Yeah.
-Yup.
[man] Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen.
This is one of the most unpleasant things
I've ever had to do.
[camera shutters clicking]
And I'll read to you a a release
They should have all gone to jail.
All of them.
1992, Major Dan Henry
[Giroux] And guess what?
They just got fired.
[somber music playing]
She wasn't treated right.
She didn't get justice.
[reporter 1] Aileen Wuornos
could not be more different
than the group of people chosen
to determine her fate.
The land boasts no wildlife,
no prostit*tes of any kind,
and any booze is deeply frowned upon.
Yet it's the religious fervor
that made it so difficult to seat a jury.
One woman said God spoke to her
about this case last night.
He wants me to remove myself.
[reporter 1] In the end, the panel
of seven women and five men
said they were up to the job.
The trial is attracting
national media attention,
as well as the attention
of several screenwriters and authors.
[reporter 2] Aileen Wuornos
showed little emotion
as she was led into the courthouse
in DeLand, Florida.
Wuornos is accused of k*lling
an electronics repair shop owner.
[camera shutters clicking]
They started proceedings
for Richard Mallory,
which was the first one.
The others would follow,
but right now, it was just concentrated
on Richard Mallory.
-It was intense.
-[clanking]
[indistinct conversation]
[Arlene] Her lawyer, Trish Jenkins,
gave me a list of stuff to get.
Lee was adamant,
"I don't want anything frilly,
just normal clothes and a cross."
She wanted a cross,
so we bought her a gold cross.
[judge] The opening statements
that the attorneys now make
are intended to help you
properly understand the issues,
the evidence, and the applicable law,
and I would request
that you give them your closest attention.
[Jenkins] Ladies and gentlemen,
the evidence is going to show
that when Aileen Wuornos
jumped into the car with Richard Mallory
on that rainy night in December of 1989,
she had no idea
that she was going to be
traveling with him into a nightmare
and that that ride would ultimately
bring her into this courtroom today.
[Tanner] All that Richard Mallory had,
she took,
including his life.
And under the law under the law,
she must pay with her life.
[attorney] Objection, Your Honor.
We don't think that
women have a special dispensation
when it comes to death penalty.
We think the law applies equally
to all citizens, men and women alike.
I want them to treat her
like a human being.
I mean, we've been hearing in there,
all of us,
that she is innocent until proven guilty.
I want them to treat her
like she's innocent
until she's proven guilty.
That's what I want.
[reporter 1] In Florida, the prosecution
played a chilling videotape at the trial
of an accused serial k*ller.
[reporter 2] Aileen Wuornos watched
her own confession
to a year-long string of killings.
[reporter 3] The version
the jury heard today lasts only 20 minutes
and contains only references
to Richard Mallory's death.
[reporter 4] The defense could fight back
with courtroom drama of their own.
Aileen Wuornos might take the stand.
She's shy. She's scared of the cameras.
I mean,
I don't know what's going to happen.
We've got two cameras.
Wow, this looks better than last time.
Come right around over here
and take that seat.
Montel Williams had it really terrible.
I'm glad at least it all looks
like an improvement to you.
Yeah. It's really
Okay, all right.
I want to start right now with,
do you think you belong here?
No. Mm-mm.
Why?
But I'm I'm not a serial k*ller.
I'm I I didn't k*ll those men, like,
everyday profile of a serial k*ller,
and I didn't plan these murders
or anything like that.
Why did you k*ll the men?
Self-defense.
[inaudible]
[Arlene] Most of her testimony,
I remember sitting there praying
through the whole thing,
just that she would be able
to get through it.
[Jenkins] Do you remember catching a ride
with Richard Mallory?
Uh, yes.
[Jenkins] If you remember,
when did you meet him?
It was at the end of November.
Were you hitching a ride
when Mallory picked you up?
Yeah, okay. So, uh
Yes, I was underneath the bridge.
I was in I mean, not Fort Lauderdale,
Fort Myers.
I had made some money.
I made almost $300, $350.
It was around 10:30 at night.
It was drizzling outside.
A vehicle passed,
and its headlights went on in the vehicle,
and I saw one head,
so I felt all right, walked up to the car.
I opened the door, and I said,
"Did did you stop for me?"
And he said, "Yeah.
Are you going to Orlando?"
I said, "No, I'm going Daytona."
He said, "Wow, your lucky day, man,
'cause I'm going all the way to Daytona."
I said, "Wow, this is great."
So I got in the car.
You agreed to go to an area
to what, allegedly talk?
-Mm-hmm.
-[Gillen] Okay.
You're with him, but at some point,
you agreed to have sex with him for money.
You both got undressed,
and then he said to you, "Guess what?
I'm not paying you." According to you.
And I said, "Well, that's it.
I'm not here for my health."
"The game's over." You know?
And I started to turn around. And that's
When I turned around to go get my clothes,
that's when he whipped the cord
around my neck.
He was choking me,
and I was holding it like this,
and he said, "Do you want to die, sl*t?"
And I just nodded no.
And then he said,
"You're going to do
everything I tell you to do,
and if you don't, I'll k*ll you right now
and I'll f*ck you after,
like just like the other sluts
I've done."
[inhales] And
I had to lift up my hands like this,
and he tied my hands,
and he tied me to the steering wheel.
And he got out of the car,
and he told me,
"Slide up and get comfortable,"
'cause he's going to see
how much meat he can pound in my a*s.
[Jenkins] Okay, what happened next?
He began to start having,
uh, a**l sex.
Okay.
And
[inhales] he's doing this
[exhales]
very violent manner.
Movement.
[inhales] And then he
I don't know if he came or what I
cl*max. I talk street talk, so
So I don't know if he did that.
[clears throat]
And he violently took himself out
and violently put himself in my vag*na.
[Jenkins] Were you saying anything to him
at that point?
No, I was crying my brains out,
and he lifts up my legs, and he puts
what turns out to be rubbing alcohol
in a Visine bottle,
and he sticks some
up my rectum area or whatever.
[breathes deeply]
[voice breaking] And that really hurt
really bad 'cause he tore me up a lot.
[inhales deeply] And then
he put some in my vag*na,
which really hurt bad.
And then he walked around
back to driver's seat side,
and he pulled my nose open like this.
Pulled them open, and he squirts
rubbing alcohol down my nose.
[inhales] And he said, "I'm saving
your eyes for the grand finale,"
and he put the Visine back on the dash.
[exhales]
So, he's just sitting out there
listening to the radio,
and I'm thinking this guy is thinking
how he's going to k*ll me.
So I'm trying desperately to get off
untied from the steering wheel.
[sighs deeply]
So finally he came back,
after about an hour
It must have been an hour or so.
It seems like the longest time,
and he said, "I'm gonna untie you
from the steering wheel,
and you better be a good girl,
or I'll k*ll you."
So so
He untied me
from the steering wheel [clears throat]
He untied me
and put the rope around my neck
and held it like a leash around my neck,
and told me to move over
so he could move in.
I jumped up real fast
and I spit in his face,
and he said, "You're dead, b*tch!
You're dead."
And he's wiping his eyes.
And I laid down real quick,
and I grabbed my bag.
And he was starting to come for for me,
then I grabbed my bag
and whipped my p*stol out toward him.
And I shot him from the floorboard to him
as he was reaching down to get me.
-See And
-How many times did you sh**t him?
I think I shot him twice
'cause I know I shot him twice.
Did you get out the car,
and then come around and sh**t him again?
Okay. Yeah, after I shot him,
I got out of the car
and I ran around to the driver's side.
And I opened up the door,
and he turned around,
and he and he got his legs
out of the passenger or driver's side
and started coming up.
And I thought
I mean, like he wasn't even shot.
Did you see blood on him?
No, I didn't see any blood, nothing.
And so I said, "Man, you better stop."
I said, "I I'll sh**t you again.
Do not get up." And he wouldn't listen.
He just got up, and I shot him
in the chest area somewhere. I don't know.
Wherever there was a lot of flesh
is where I shot.
You shot him, you say
you can't remember how many times.
Did you say to yourself,
"I just m*rder*d a man?"
I said to myself, now this is
the only thing I said to myself,
and I don't believe
this is premeditated whatsoever.
I said, "If anybody
ever comes up to me again
and ever tries to r*pe me like that,
he will definitely wish
he had not met this prost*tute."
[indistinct conversation]
That was a very difficult day.
For all of us.
[indistinct conversation]
[Arlene] She did well,
in spite of everything.
John Tanner just didn't care.
She's a woman and a prost*tute,
and he had a problem with that.
[Aileen] Mm-hmm.
[Arlene] I didn't like him.
That was your p*stol?
[Aileen] Mm-hmm.
-Yes?
-Yes.
That was the p*stol
you k*lled Richard Mallory with?
-[Tanner] Yes?
-[Aileen] Mm-hmm. Yes.
You offered to have sex,
you're laying there naked on your back,
and the man paid you,
and you say it's r*pe
when he's kissing and getting on you?
He didn't pay me.
I don't know what you're talking about.
He didn't pay me. He's not kissing me
because for regular sex.
-He's he r*ped me.
-[camera shutters clicking]
This is when he gets heavy.
And I don't know
I don't know what you're talking about.
[Tanner] Did you say that here you are,
a woman who is ravaged and naked,
and no one would believe
that you've been assaulted?
We've got prostit*tes out there
that are being k*lled every day,
and nobody cares about it.
And we've got women being r*ped every day,
and nobody cares about it.
I have witnessed it with my own eyes.
Nobody would have believed
that I was r*ped
and that I had to defend myself.
They would've said,
"You're a prost*tute. We don't care."
You say Richard Mallory told you that,
in your words,
he'd k*lled other women?
He did, yeah.
-[Gillen] He told you that?
-Oh yeah. Flat out told me.
Tanner said to me
that there was never any evidence
that Richard Mallory
had ever been a*usive to women.
[laughing]
-Okay.
-Was he telling the truth?
No.
Uh, Jackie Davis did that depo
and said he was crazy.
Why haven't authorities looked into that?
-In your opinion--
-[man] Okay.
-Let's break off and come back to that.
-[Gillen] Okay.
[man] And if you guys wanted to stay
and chat for a minute
-[Gillen] Mm-hmm.
-[man continues indistinctly]
Come back You know,
what I'll do is look through all of this,
and and maybe if there's
some other points we need to make,
we may be able to come back and
and do more.
-There's a lot of stuff.
-A lot of it we're gonna look into.
Now, I wanna be clear on one thing.
All of the authorities
that I spoke to when I said,
"What's the mistake Lee Wuornos made?"
-You know what they all say?
-What?
She confessed.
Miss Wuornos,
you were in the courtroom yesterday
when the videotape of the confession
was played, wasn't it? Weren't you?
[Aileen] Yes, sir.
You saw it in its entirety, didn't you?
[Aileen] Yes.
You didn't make one mention
of an a**l r*pe or being tied up, did you?
I was withdrawing from alcohol so bad,
I was so confused
and so scared about Tyria
that I I couldn't function properly.
I don't know what I was saying.
I was I don't know.
And I go into other details
with other people in here
where I'm totally talking
about one person,
and another person
even talked about Richard Mallory--
[Jenkins] Lee, I have to advise you
not to talk about any other charges.
I mean, they weren't letting me go on
and or nothing,
to re-correct myself or anything.
They kept
Now he just asked me about
Now for the next 11 pages,
he's talking about all different guys.
"White pickup truck," and I say,
"I don't recall a white pickup truck."
[Jenkins] Your Honor, Lee,
I'm gonna instruct you
not to talk about any other
[Aileen] Okay.
[Jenkins] charges.
[Tanner] You didn't tell the detective
because you couldn't remember it.
And/or you didn't tell the detective
'cause you were stubborn--
-I couldn't remember--
-Let me finish the question, Miss Wuornos.
And you didn't tell the detective
because you were stubborn
and trying to protect Tyria Moore.
Were there any other reasons
you didn't tell the detective?
He cut me off
every time I talked about a r*pe
with any incident.
Oh, did you talk about r*pes
with other incidents?
-[attorney] Objection.
-I'm not gonna answer.
-Lee, do not answer about other cases.
-I'm not.
They have not been tried yet.
[Tanner] Well, I'm
I'm only trying to ask you
is why you k*lled six other men?
-Was it the same reason?
-I'm here for one trial.
I'm here for first-degree m*rder
in one count in this county.
[Jenkins] I move for a mistrial,
Your Honor.
[judge] Overruled.
[Gillen] If you had only been allowed
to argue the Richard Mallory case,
were you guaranteed to win?
No. No.
Uh, if we had had to try the case, uh,
on simply the evidence
of Mr. Mallory's k*lling
with her story of
self-defense, of a sexual as*ault,
uh, of of brutal t*rture
that she described,
a jury would be hard-pressed
to to sort out the truth in that case.
Uh, we certainly could've lost it.
How were you allowed
to bring in court these other murders
when she hadn't been convicted of them?
Well, Judge Uriel Blount,
uh, I've known him for a long time,
ever since I've been a prosecutor,
uh, going back over 24 years.
And, uh, Judge Blount, uh, had,
to my knowledge,
never allowed similar fact evidence
in any case before.
When the judge said,
"Okay, you can bring those in,"
you must have breathed
quite a sigh of relief.
We were greatly relieved,
and of course we knew we had her then.
So so, that maneuver,
or that legal, uh, tactic,
uh, it worked this time.
It it's kind of like, uh,
kind of like football.
If it works, it's great,
and if it doesn't, you wish you hadn't.
-[suspenseful music playing]
-[indistinct conversation]
[reporter 1] The judge's ruling
opened the floodgates
for new evidence
surrounding the six other killings
Aileen Wuornos says she committed.
[reporter 2] The prosecution rested
after a detective
who took Wuornos's confession
showed the jury on a map
where each of the bodies was found.
[reporter 1] In closing arguments today,
her attorneys asked the jury
to believe Wuornos.
[attorney] She needs fairness.
She needs justice.
She needs you to understand
what really happened.
[reporter 1] Prosecutors reminded
the jury members of the six other killings
with similar circumstances
Wuornos has confessed to.
State Attorney John Tanner pointed out
that Wuornos had never mentioned
any r*pe or t*rture
in her earlier statements to police.
She has left you no reasonable choice
under the evidence of this case,
except to find her guilty
of m*rder in the first degree.
[Gillen] Richard Mallory drove her
to this secluded area,
and it was here that
Aileen Wuornos became a k*ller.
[traffic buzzing]
It's so noisy. I don't know
how it sounds like a secluded area.
[flat beep]
[reporter 1] A Florida jury has
a life or death decision to make today
in the case of
confessed k*ller Aileen Wuornos.
[reporter 2] The seven women and five men
deliberated for 91 minutes.
[juror] We, the jury, find the defendant,
Aileen Carol Wuornos,
guilty of first-degree premeditated m*rder
and first-degree felony m*rder
of Richard Mallory
as charged in count one of the indictment.
-Sons of b*tches.
-[camera shutters clicking]
I'm so pissed off.
-[indistinct chatter]
-[camera shutters clicking]
[Aileen] I was r*ped.
I hope you get r*ped.
Scumbags of America.
[camera shutters clicking]
[reporter 1] Aileen, how do you feel
about the verdict?
-[reporter 2] You ready to say--
-I'm innocent!
A lot of questions will be answered
over the next couple of days.
I, uh, believe that this was
not so much a crime of passion
as much as it was a crime
of absolute control and domination
over, uh, the victim.
[reporter] Wuornos is facing
the electric chair.
Prosecutors say
they will seek the death penalty.
The sentencing phase
of her trial begins tomorrow.
So you're heading down here,
and you wanted some company to drive with.
Yes, I just had a headache,
and so I I get to this spot here.
And right here,
this lady stands.
[Gillen] Did she have
the opportunity to k*ll you?
She had the opportunity if she wanted to.
I had about $3,300,
$3,400, $3,500 cash on me.
I had a gold watch worth about $1,200.
I had a ring worth about $450.
You would've been an easy prey
to rip off, never mind k*ll.
If Lee would wanna to k*ll somebody,
it would've been me.
I'm living proof
that Lee's not a cold-blooded k*ller.
[indistinct conversation]
[judge] The crime
for which you'll be sentenced
was committed in a cold, calculated,
and premeditated manner
without any pretense
of moral or legal justification.
[clerk] In the Circuit Court,
7th Judicial Circuit,
in Volusia County, Florida,
case number 91257,
State of Florida
versus Aileen Carol Wuornos,
as to count one, the majority of the jury
filed a vote of 12 to nothing,
advise and recommend to the court
that it impose the death penalty
upon Aileen Carol Wuornos,
dated at DeLand, Volusia County, Florida,
this 30th day of January 1992.
[reporter 1] In Florida today,
prost*tute Aileen Wuornos
bowed her head and cried
as the jury unanimously recommended
that she be sent to die
in Florida's electric chair.
[reporter 2] Aileen Wuornos looked stunned
as the court clerk announced
the jury's recommendation.
You have people coming out
unanimously voting for the death penalty
and crying while they do it.
An unanimous verdict
is much easier to sustain,
and we expect this, uh, conviction
to withstand, uh, appellate review.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Was this her house?
I might be wrong, Fred.
[suspenseful music playing]
-I think it's--
-[woman] What's going on?
Oh, we just need to we're gonna just talk
to Ms. Davis about some things.
[woman] Oh, all right.
Nothing important.
[knocking on door]
[Gillen] Hello? Jackie?
-[woman] Does she know you're coming?
-[Gillen] No.
When we drove by, this screen was open.
The door was open.
[Gillen] But her car is still here.
I have been labeled a serial k*ller,
and I am no serial k*ller.
[reporter 1] The convicted m*rder*r gave
the judge in a packed courtroom an earful.
State Attorney Tanner
was the one manipulating the jury.
I was coerced into making my confessions.
I was threatened.
[reporter 2] The woman who adopted Wuornos
in jail begged for a life sentence.
Three expert witnesses
in the field of psychology,
who said that Aileen Wuornos was
emotionally and psychologically a child.
And I just beg for [voice breaks]
your mercy for my daughter's life.
[reporter 2] There is no mercy
in the judge's decision.
He sends Wuornos to death row.
Aileen Carol Wuornos,
be electrocuted until you are dead,
and may God have mercy upon your corpse.
[reporter 3] With those words,
Aileen Wuornos became
Florida's third woman on death row.
[officer] This way, Aileen.
[somber music playing]
[camera shutters clicking]
[inaudible]
It's the end of the trial.
The sentencing was done.
I love you.
Bye!
[Arlene] She was moved to death row.
[guard] This is the cell
that the inmate is kept in.
[Arlene] I saw her up there,
and she was really, really scared.
She knew that the tide of public opinion
was totally against her.
She said, "I don't know what to do."
"I don't want to go through
all these trials."
"I just want to go to heaven."
[distant indistinct chatter]
[Arlene] She already has
the death penalty.
Why on earth
would she go through six more trials?
[buckle clinking]
[Arlene] I said,
"You need to just plead guilty."
"No contest for the rest of the murders."
She said, "My attorneys
are not going to do that."
And I said, "Well,
we can use Steve Glazer."
[Gillen] Lee Wuornos said to you,
"I want to die."
[Gillen] Why?
Because she does want to die.
She figures this life is over.
And in a spiritual sense, she realizes
there's not much left on Earth for her.
She's tired of the corruption,
the cops, the judges, the courts.
And she wants to get off this planet
and get into heaven
where she perceives
she will have at least, uh, uh, uh
She might find paradise.
She can't find it on Earth.
She wants to go to the electric chair.
Her message to me is, "Steve,
get this over as soon as possible."
[Gillen] And by "this over," she means
Let's go through the legal system,
let's go through all the courts.
Let's plead guilty or no contest
and get it over with.
[indistinct conversation]
Lee, why do you want a new attorney?
You'll find out in court.
[reporter] What was wrong
with your other attorney?
[Aileen groans]
-Uh, they're working for the state.
-[guard] Ma'am, take it out of the way.
-[indistinct chatter]
-[camera shutters clicking]
[clanking]
[Aileen] I would really appreciate
to be sent back to prison immediately.
I've stated no contest.
And I meant that that is
the end of the line, it's the bottom line.
I don't see why
there should even be a jury.
I don't even see why this should carry on.
[reporter] Inside the courtroom,
Wuornos repeated her claims
that this was all a waste of time,
that after a no contest plea
to the m*rder of three men,
in Marion and Citrus Counties,
she wanted to have nothing to do
with the legal system,
requesting that she not be present
while her sentence was decided
by a jury in the three cases.
I've been framed. I've been set up.
I'm ready to die and get out of your evil.
God has forgiven her for what she's done,
and our state has the death penalty,
so why not go for it?
I mean, wow, she could be home with Jesus
in a matter of a few years.
[camera shutters clicking]
[Aileen] I'm sick and tired of this.
I'll probably get
three more death row sentences,
and then I gotta go to Pasco and Dixon
for two more, uh, death row.
How many times you gotta k*ll me,
you know what I mean?
-This is this is bullshit.
-[camera shutters clicking]
They don't need to be doing this.
There are, uh, actually
two possible sentences that can be imposed
in a first-degree m*rder case.
One is life imprisonment,
and one is death.
-[Aileen] Yes.
-Do you understand that?
[Arlene] When God first told me
to do this,
it was for her to reach out to Jesus
so she could have peace.
That was always in the back of my mind.
I'm willing to die for what I've done,
for I took a life not wanting to,
but had to in self-defense.
[judge] In accordance with
the, uh, jury recommendation,
I sentence you to death
for the m*rder of Troy Burress.
I sentence you to death
for the m*rder of Charles Humphreys.
I sentence you to death
for the m*rder of David Spears.
[somber music playing]
[Arlene] It was a good thing.
-She absolutely wanted to be ex*cuted
-[inaudible]
[Arlene] because then,
with her new belief,
she would be in heaven and away from here.
You can't blame her for that.
[reporter] How do you feel?
I'm satisfied.
I'm going to be with the Lord soon,
and I know it because I spoke the truth.
-[Arlene] I have absolutely no regrets.
-[continues indistinctly]
[Arlene] God asked me to do it. I did it.
Period.
[indistinct conversation]
[man] I'll be right there.
-[Gillen] Hey.
-Hi.
-[Gillen] How are you doing today?
-Fine.
Good. Good. Come on in.
We have a couple of the guys here
from the crew from the last time,
who you might remember,
and I know you got to spend some time
with my producers the other day.
Go ahead.
[man] Okay, we're rolling.
Okay, three, two
[Tanner] You don't slow down, do you?
I never thought I'd be back in prison
this week interviewing her again,
that's for sure.
-How's she doing?
-Totally different person.
Totally different person than she was
in our first interview.
I don't know if you saw part of that
where she was very adamant to fight.
Mm-hmm.
Do you recall Did you tell the jury that,
in your opinion, you were convinced
that this man was going to hurt you?
I told them the whole story
as best as I could.
I don't understand
why they did not believe me.
They thought, "Well, my God, I got
a legal way to put a prost*tute to death."
They didn't care.
I asked John Tanner,
when I interviewed him,
do you think that Richard Mallory
was indeed violent with you?
[Gillen] Do you think that Richard Mallory
was indeed violent with her?
Absolutely not.
Uh, Richard Mallory's, um, uh, history
doesn't reflect a pattern of criminality.
It doesn't reflect
a pattern of sexual violence.
Uh, there's no evidence at all
that Aileen Wuornos
was the subject of any violence
at the hands of Richard Mallory
or any of her other, uh,
seven m*rder victims.
Okay. And we can pick that up again,
but what I what I wanna ask you about
is your first two lines there.
-How could you make that statement?
-Well, the NCIC, uh
showed no criminal convictions.
Did it show anything
that was suspicious to you?
No. I don't recall,
and and truthfully,
I did not look at the dispatch myself.
My staff, uh, did not indicate to me
there was anything
that we should needed to pursue further.
What we want to get
your reaction on today, Lee,
is that we have found out
some things about Richard Mallory
-[chuckles]
-that were never introduced in court.
I am
-[Gillen] Okay?
-Okay.
Richard Mallory was convicted of as*ault
with intent to r*pe.
When was this? When did he What year?
[Gillen] Well, he was actually arrested
in 1957. Okay?
He ended up spending ten years
in an institute
for for criminal sexual deviance.
Well, he had a sexual defunct
all his life then
'cause he was a maniac with me.
When you went to trial,
did you know
that Richard Mallory had been arrested
for as*ault and attempted r*pe?
No, we did not.
[Gillen] Did you know that he claimed
he was insane
at the time of that incident?
We do not, nor did we know that.
I want to read you some quotes
that he wrote at the time to the judge.
-[paper rustling]
-This is Richard Mallory speaking.
"I hope they give me the gas chamber."
"I am no use to myself nor to anyone."
"I should die and I wish I could."
"I was afraid I might do something,
someday, to somebody."
Here's the quote from the doctor
who ran the institute
after several years of alleged treatment.
"Because of Richard Mallory's
emotional disturbance
and his poor control
of his sexual impulses,
he could present a potential danger
to his environment in the future."
-[paper rustling]
-Another quote.
"He is still an extremely confused,
impulsive, and expl*sive individual
who will get into serious difficulty,
most likely of a sexual nature."
[sighs]
[smacks lips]
[voice breaking] It's sad, isn't it?
[Gillen] What is sad about it?
Sad society didn't care, did they?
They framed me for a movie.
[breathing shakily]
They framed me for elections.
They framed me for political purposes and
They didn't care about taking up all this.
[Gillen] Do you know how I found this out?
[Tanner] No.
[Gillen] Through looking at a deposition
that your office had.
Jackie Davis, his ex-girlfriend.
And this information is in your records.
How much more of a clue?
He had indicated
that he had been in some type of trouble
as a juvenile, I had thought.
And and perhaps that's why
it didn't come up on the records.
This is on the records.
This is not a sealed record.
-Not a sealed record.
-Okay.
[Gillen] Took me a day to find.
-I feel so hopeless.
-[Gillen] Mm-hmm.
I'm numb.
I'm mad.
When I get back to the room,
I'll show my anger [voice breaking]
to myself.
[inhales]
To hell with you people.
You don't give a sh*t. So what the heck?
Does she not deserve a fair trial
that would have included information
about the victim and his past?
I think that information was irrelevant.
She received a fair trial,
and she deserves the death penalty.
[somber music playing]
[producer] We're fine.
That's that's what we need.
[Gillen] Boy, are you patient.
You're a good cross-examiner.
You don't even need to go to law school.
They'd just certify you
and let you go to work.
[indistinct conversation]
[Gillen] Do you think
that there's any chance
you would get a new trial?
I don't think that nobody cares.
[speaking indistinctly]
[door buzzes]
[door creaks, shuts]
[intriguing music playing]
The first time I was sexually assaulted,
I was six years old.
And that changed the direction of my life.
I'm an artist.
I started making work about
the sexual abuse of women and children.
Like, it became my path.
In 1993, I'm sitting
in my apartment in Australia,
going through the newspaper,
and I see Aileen's photo.
[inaudible]
[Jasmine] And there was
a instant recognition,
like something clicked and resonated.
A prost*tute k*lled johns?
I just felt compelled to write to her.
And that turned into
eight years of correspondence between us
and hundreds of letters.
Then in 1997,
she said, "I want
to give you this interview."
I was the most anxious
I have ever been in my life,
that I could f*ck it up really easily.
-[keys jangling]
-[metal door clangs]
[distant laughter]
[Jasmine] Then suddenly, a door flew open,
and there Aileen was right in front of me.
-[Jasmine] Hi.
-Hi.
Hi, everybody in the free world.
Hope you're doing good. [chuckles]
-[guard] Aileen!
-Yeah. Oh!
This is Jane. Jasmine.
[Jasmine] The first time
seeing her in the flesh,
I could feel her energy straight away.
-Oh, sorry.
-That's all right.
[Jasmine] She had the energy
of a famous person.
[laughing] All right, so how
On this interview, uh, Jasmine,
what I'd like to do,
if you don't mind, is I just need to
'Cause I'm coming clean.
I'm telling the truth about my cases.
And, um, I have never done this before.
[Jasmine] Aileen told me
that she wanted to confess everything
to another human being.
I have to do this.
The Bible tells you to do it,
and I'm into the Lord big time bad.
[Jasmine] I felt responsible
that she thought this interview
would bring her execution date up quicker.
[Jasmine] Okay. Richard Mallory?
[Jasmine] Could this k*ll her?
[clears throat] So I was
underneath the viaduct at of Tampa
when I ran, uh ran into Richard Mallory.
And you all have heard the story,
what happened with him
and everything else.
And that it was supposedly r*pe.
Well, that is true. It was r*pe.
But there's only one thing
that I lied about. [inhales deeply]
And that is that there was no sodomy.
I slipped with the cops
in the beginning saying about sodomy
because I was thinking about Tyria.
And I was just running my mouth,
saying anything that came to my head.
I was thinking of r*ped women
and their and their problems,
and my problems and everything.
And just anything
that was coming to my mind.
You know, I was wasn't even there.
I was hysterical.
So when I started on the confessions,
I remember I said sodomy to him.
Told myself, "Ooh, I better be
a little consistent here," you know?
So I said, "Richard Mallory used sodomy."
Then I had to keep up with that stupid lie
throughout the court and everything.
It pissed me off. I didn't like doing it.
So I felt really bad about that.
-Yeah.
-[Jasmine] Mm-hmm.
Six months later, I ran into David Spears.
He had a lead pipe in his hand. [swallows]
And so, he he was trying
to hit me with it.
He just missed my hand.
By the time I got the door open
and got the g*n,
he was only three feet from me
and so I started sh**ting him.
And I shot him, shot him, shot him away.
So he was also definitely an as*ault.
There was no r*pe involved or any
of that jazz, but he was an as*ault.
Now my head's swimming in thought.
I'm not going to, you know,
go to prison for life for these creeps.
If you're gonna sock me in the chair,
I'm gonna get me a bunch of rapists.
So I was ready.
I said, "Come on, tell me you're a r*pist
and you're dead."
Well, that didn't happen.
I was running into these idiots.
I was running into
drug smuggler Carskaddon.
I'm highly against drugs. Highly.
I have a hard time taking those Advil
for my teeth.
And when he kept telling me
about drug smuggling,
drug smuggling, drug smuggling,
I decided to waste him.
[clicks tongue] And so
that's what happened with Carskaddon.
Well, here I got a first-degree.
This is a really first-degree.
I don't care anything.
I don't care about anything no more now.
You know, it's over. It's over.
[splutters] Aileen Wuornos,
the real Aileen Wuornos
is not a serial k*ller.
-I was so drunk
-[Jasmine] Yes.
and so lost,
so f*cked up in the head, man,
that I turned into one.
But my real self is not one.
-And so now I told the truth.
-[woman] Straight up.
[laughing] Oh God.
I want you all out there
to know [swallows]
that telling the truth
was the hardest, hardest thing.
I kept thinking
for days, and days, and days, and days.
And I was fighting fighting
the demons within me that kept saying,
"Don't tell the truth.
I want you to go to hell with me."
And I said, "No way, man.
I'm going to Lord Jesus Christ."
"I'm gonna tell the truth,
nothing but the truth."
So I laid it down to you
as best as I could in full honesty.
Oh, now I'm going to start crying.
[inhales deeply]
[voice breaking] Because
I'm really sorry that
[groans]
[voice breaking] I'm really sorry
for, uh, the families.
I'm really sorry
that your your father or your brother
[inhales sharply] or whoever
he might have been for you,
you know, in kinship,
relationship, whatever,
I'm really sorry that he got k*lled.
I was messed up in the head, man,
after the r*pes. I lost it.
And I said,
"You ain't gonna take me to prison
and spend the rest of my life
in prison over these creeps."
"I'm gonna take a bunch of you creeps
with me before I go."
That's what happened.
So I'm really sorry.
[pensive music playing]
[Jasmine] When the interview was over,
I flew straight back to Australia.
It didn't matter to me at all
if none of the men had r*ped her.
Those men may not have r*ped her
in the moment,
but they are icons of previous rapists
that she didn't fight against.
Her love for Tyria
was for all eternity and obsessive,
and the complete heartbreak
when Tyria was beginning
to pull away from her.
Anything to stop the pain.
I don't think Aileen
would have the consciousness
of what abandonment pain does,
but she was conscious
that she was losing it.
[pensive music continues]
It wasn't until 2000
that the letters dropped off,
that she was really, you know,
preparing to say goodbye.
[somber music playing]
And then she was very explicit
about wanting to die.
She said, "I've had it. I'm tired."
"I've been abused my whole life.
I wanna go."
At first, it was very upsetting
because this person
had been part of my life for so long.
It was like a death.
It was the death before the death.
[seagulls cawing]
But then, I understood.
I think her paranoia was increasing.
There was a deterioration
from accumulation
of living in a small cell all those years.
[thunder rumbling in the distance]
My name is Deidre Hunt.
Aileen and I were on death row together.
Aileen, she
she was not mentally well,
from my experience.
[Aileen] Hey, I was tortured at BCI.
They had they had the intercom on
in the room,
and they kept lying that it wasn't on.
And they were using sonic pressure
on my head since 1997.
[clanging]
[Deidre] She would accuse them
of listening to her.
They had come into her room one time
and opened up the light,
and they cut the wires in front of her
to prove that they weren't trying
to take over her mind
and brainwash her
and whatever she was thinking.
I think their whole plan was to try
and make it look like I was totally crazy,
and so nobody would believe
anything I had to say about anything,
and then drive me there if they could.
[creaking]
[Deidre] She made us promise
we would not go to the media
and tell them how mentally unwell she was,
because she really wanted to go.
It was very emotional.
[voice breaking] It's
it's hard to imagine
k*lling somebody that's innocent,
or k*lling somebody that's not
really fully there.
And she was not fully there at all.
[crickets chirping]
[reporter] Wuornos came
to Florida's death row for women,
January 31st of 1992.
Since then, she says she's found God,
feels compelled now
to tell the complete truth
about everything she's done.
She will drop all of her appeals.
She says she is looking forward
to taking her last breath.
[reporter 2] Aileen Wuornos walked up
to give testimony
in shackles and handcuffs.
The convicted serial k*ller hoping that
after almost ten years of appeals,
the state will finally put her to death.
I've come real close to God
[inhales deeply]
[voice breaking] and I think
it's the right thing to do
[sobs]
to tell the world
[exhales]
that I k*lled those men.
I robbed them,
and I k*lled them as cold as ice,
and I'd do it again too.
I know I'd k*ll another person
'cause I've hated humans
for a long time. [chuckling]
[sniffling] But there's no chance in
[tissue rustles]
in keeping me alive or anything
because I'd k*ll again.
I have hate crawling through my system.
Thank you for doing the right thing
and not keeping on with all the appeals,
which are are going nowhere
and putting us through a lot.
[reporter] After a decade on death row,
Wuornos has volunteered to die
and convinced a Florida court
and Governor Jeb Bush
to sign her death warrant.
Her appeals have been exhausted.
She wants to meet her creator.
She told the psychiatrist
she'd made her peace with God
and that she was ready to go.
She said what was cruel and unusual
was that it took so long to get it done.
[plane engine whirring]
[reporter] Dubbed the damsel of death
and the ultimate man-hater,
obnoxious and unsexy,
like a spider Wuornos stalked her prey
along a stretch of road
in Central Florida.
Wednesday, barring a last-minute reprieve,
Aileen Carol Wuornos will become
the third female ex*cuted in Florida.
In Miami, Orlando Salinas, Fox News.
[Jasmine] I always knew
that I would go for the execution.
-I did want to be there for Dawn.
-[inaudible]
-[waves crashing]
-[seagulls cawing]
[Jasmine inhales] I've never seen someone
so devoted to a friend
as Dawn was to Aileen.
[car approaching]
[car departing]
[indistinct conversation]
[man] At least she got to talk
to somebody before they did it.
Oh yeah.
I got to come down here every year
and visit her.
I get two visits,
six-hour visits each day.
I met my husband with her 29 years ago.
[man] Oh sh*t.
She's from Australia.
-[man chuckling] Oh, is she?
-[Jasmine] Yeah.
-She is.
-[Jasmine] Mm-hmm.
She's come all the way down here
to be with Aileen.
[Jasmine] I couldn't comprehend
her upcoming execution
or even the notion of execution.
[Dawn] Why is her signature outside?
[Jasmine] Can you see her?
[Jasmine] So it was bizarre,
like it was the talk of the town.
[Dawn] They've tie-dye ones.
[Jasmine] A town known
for strawberries and jails.
Just film me
[Jasmine] It was a huge event.
It was a public execution,
except not so public.
[indistinct conversation]
[Jasmine] It was a thing, yes.
Talk of the town.
[reporter 1] Wuornos was first arrested.
I'm Chris Trenkmann at Port Orange,
the story coming up.
[reporter 2] Plus a new
9:30 tonight.
Aileen Wuornos will be ex*cuted
in the morning.
[Jasmine] So here we are.
[reporter 2] Wuornos will die
by lethal injection
for the murders of six men.
[Jasmine] It's 9:30 p.m.
[reporter 2] Chris Trenkmann is live
with more on the upcoming execution.
[Jasmine] October 8th,
and Aileen's got 12 hours to live.
It's so insane.
Being downstairs, drinking coffee,
looking at the trucks going past.
Dawn had a great visit.
Aileen's happy about going.
They laughed and talked for three hours.
[laughing]
[Jasmine] She said [clears throat]
[Aileen] What time is it?
"Is it weird I'm going to be dead
in 12 hours?"
[pensive music playing]
[Aileen] Take good care of yourself.
Good seeing you.
[Jasmine] Good seeing you. Bye!
[Jasmine] I would have absolutely gone
into the room
if she had wanted me to do that.
'Cause I imagine her last moments on Earth
are a whole lot of faces hating her.
If she had asked,
I would have absolutely done that.
So I did want to be there for her
and also to be some kind of energy
outside that jail.
Which is probably meaningless.
But just someone
who would grieve for this death.
[music fades]
[Ivey] Um, Sterling Ivey,
Department of Corrections.
I'm gonna be kind of brief on this one.
There's not much that's changed,
uh, uh, in the last hour,
but just to kind of rehash everything
that's happened through the night.
Uh, Aileen did visit with her lifetime,
long-time family friend about 9:00 p.m.
Visit lasted until midnight.
She did go to sleep
about one o'clock this morning.
She requested us to wake her up at 5:30,
which we did.
Um, this morning, her demeanor,
her attitude is is pretty calm.
Uh, she's not quite as talkative
as she has been in the past
and appears to be ready for the execution
at 9:30 this morning.
So one of those candles,
Jasmine, is for Aileen?
[Jasmine] Yeah.
And one's for the victims?
[Jasmine] Yeah.
[Jasmine] Standing outside a jail
in Florida,
someone's about to be ex*cuted.
I was in a surreal,
detached state of being.
[reporter ] Uh, was this woman,
Dawn Botkins,
who visited her late last evening
between 9:00 and midnight.
Um, we don't know whether she'll be here.
She was not a witness to the execution.
So so far as we know, she's not present
at the site at the moment.
Uh, Wuornos herself
did not, uh, take her last meal.
She was served the regular prison meal
of barbecued chicken,
but we're told by prison officials
that she did not eat it.
[door buzzes, clangs]
[eerie tone]
[Ivey] At 9:47 this morning,
uh, the case of the State of Florida
versus Aileen Wuornos
was carried out at Florida State Prison
in a very professional and humane manner.
During Aileen Wuornos's brief,
uh, one-minute final statement,
uh, she alluded to the fact, uh,
that she would be sailing away
with the rock.
She'll be back with Jesus Christ,
like on Independence Day, on June 6th,
just like the movie,
on the big mothership.
"I'll be back. I'll be back,"
were her final statements.
Uh, now, without further ado, uh,
John Tanner, State Attorney
for Circuit Court in Volusia County.
-John.
-[Tanner] Thank you.
[camera shutters clicking]
I said a prayer for her
and for the victims.
And for all of us.
This is a tough business,
but I think it's necessary. Thank you.
[Jasmine] The press conference
was upsetting.
Like, they just wanted the gory details.
[man] 17 years, eight months and
[Jasmine] And then I see the white truck,
the morgue truck,
take her body out and drive,
and everyone's running to film
this white truck.
[indistinct conversation]
[camera shutters clicking]
[somber music playing]
[camera shutters clicking]
-[crickets chirping]
-[indistinct conversation]
[newspapers rustling]
[Dawn] So these seem to be
pretty good articles, eh?
[Jasmine] Yeah, they are.
Just make sure I've got the
Yeah, okay.
-I brought all the papers from downstairs.
-[Dawn] This is fun. [chuckles]
"Terry Griffith, the daughter of former
police chief Charles d*ck Humphreys,
who was k*lled by Wuornos,
witnessed the execution and said,
'As far as I'm concerned,
I think she should've suffered
a little bit more,
but I'm glad it's over.'"
Hang on, this is wrong.
[Dawn] Can't you even say something like,
"This has been a sad, sad thing,
and it's a sad, sad day"?
Now there's eight people gone.
And she has paid her price.
[Jasmine] Hmm.
Now, she was she just she said to me
during the visit, she is a serial k*ller.
Which she's never said all along.
She's always said,
"I k*lled a series of men."
She just When she did the God thing,
she said, "I was a serial k*ller."
[Jasmine] Yeah.
[Dawn] She k*lled to rob,
and she robbed to k*ll, period.
And she said
she was definitely a serial k*ller.
[Jasmine] But we know that
it's years of r*pe that led to that.
-[Dawn] Oh, she did say that too.
-[Jasmine] Mm.
Oh yeah, that's what got her
to that point, plus the drinking.
It was all the years of the abuse,
and then she started drinking.
And plus Tyria.
-You know, she was a fatal love.
-Yeah.
She's When She kept saying that to me
during the visit.
"That was quite the love, wasn't it?
It was fatal."
And I said, "Yeah, I guess it was."
Definitely with Ty. Totally fatal.
-[laughs]
-[Dawn] You know what I mean?
[Jasmine] And so how was it
saying goodbye to Aileen?
Actually, when I
I gave her a hug goodbye.
I told her I'd see her on the other side.
Then there was ten frickin' guards there
for some reason. I don't know why.
They were taking their time,
and I was telling her,
"Can that gate open a little quick?"
'Cause I didn't want to look back.
-Yeah.
-'Cause I could hear her standing there.
They were re-shackling her.
But I did look back
and I just gave her a little wave.
-[Jasmine] Yeah.
-Then I heard her say, "I love you, Dawn."
-I said, "I know. I love you too."
-[Jasmine] Uh-huh.
-"But I will see you on the other side."
-[Jasmine] Aw.
She's up there making my way right now.
She's a big part of my heart.
Yeah.
And the second I get home,
I'm not even gonna undo my bags.
I'm going to take her ashes
out the backyard,
and I'm going to unleash her
the very second I can, so she is free.
[Jasmine] free.
[conversation continues indistinctly]
[pensive music playing]
[music ends]
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