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01x05 - Whales, God and Pepto Bismol

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "The Center Seat: 55 Years of Star Trek". Aired: November 5, 2021.*
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Chronicles rare and fascinating details of how "Star Trek" began, where it's been, and how it's going where no television series has gone before.

01x05 - Whales, God and Pepto Bismol

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NARRATOR: Despite

stellar box office,

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

fell short of

Paramount's expectations.

But the Wrath of Khan

and the Search for Spock

were hits,

proving that the franchise

could charm audiences

and critics.

But as big screen Star Trek

got bigger...

Boom.

... so did the egos.

He wanted to be in my shot

NARRATOR: The special effects.

That's one of the most

embarrassing work.

NARRATOR:

And the mounting pressure

on a risky fourth movie.

This might be it, you know.

This might be

the franchise k*ller.

NARRATOR:

So beam aboard,

and hold on tight

as we boldly go

into the depths of Star Trek.

And you can see it all

from here, in The Center Seat.

NARRATOR: After finding success

with the Search For Spock,

Paramount wanted

their biggest star

to direct the next movie.

Directing a motion picture...

is possibly the most

fulfilling thing I can do.

NARRATOR: No,

not William Shatner.

Not yet.

Their other biggest star.

Actor and Director

of Star Trek Ill,

Leonard Nimoy.

Jeff Katzenberg

tells Leonard Nimoy,

"We want you

to make Star Trek I V."

NARRATOR: Because Leonard

already had a big idea.

Leonard Nimoy had been

reading a book by Edward Wilson

called Biophilia.

NARRATOR: Whose powerful

environmental message

resonated with Nimoy.

TENUTO: There are

certain species on Earth

where, if they get pulled

out of the ecosystem,

it would be detrimental

to the entire ecosystem.

NARRATOR: Otherwise known

as Keystone Species.

The idea got Nimoy thinking

about how Star Trek

could save the world.

Maybe there is some problem

In the 23rd century,

that can only be solved

by going back

to the 20th century.

finding the species

that humans caused

to become extinct,

and bringing them back

so that they can help

solve the problem.

NARRATOR: So the crew

of the Enterprise

would help save

one of Earth's

most majestic creatures

in the ultimate

feel-good adventure.

It was just a matter of finding

the right animal,

one that everyone loves.

And the original idea

that gets bantered around,

and it's Harve Bennett's idea,

is to use snail darts

as the species.

NARRATOR: Sorry, was that

snails or darts?

Snail darts are very small.

NARRATOR: A s in very small

endangered fish,

which producer

Harve Bennett thought

would become big stars.

As a producer,

he says he liked the idea

because snail darts

wouldn't be very expensive.

NARRATOR:

But as far as director

Leonard Nimoy was concerned,

these snail darters

were small fry.

He had something else in mind

for the big screen.

Specifically, humpback whales.

NARRATOR:

Producer Harve Bennett

and Nimoy quickly devised

a story with all the classic

Star Trek ingredients.

And now, humpback whales.

BONES: You are proposing

that we go backwards in time,

and find Humpback Whales,

then bring them

forward in time,

drop them off,

and hope the hell

they tell this probe

what to go do with itself?

- That's general idea.

- Well, that's crazy.

I thought the story

was a little out there.

You know, It's like

"save the whales," okay.

NARRATOR: But things

were about to get

much further out there.

TENUTO: Jeffrey Katzenberg

calls up Leonard Nimoy

and tells him "I either have

what is the greatest idea

of all time

"or the worst idea of all time."

NARRATOR: Which was enough

to make Leonard's ears perk up.

TENUTO: That idea

is Eddie Murphy

has been mentioning

how much of

a Star Trek fan he is.

- I'm a Trekkie.

- Get out of here, I'm a Trekkie.

NARRATOR: So a script

for Star Trek IV

was commissioned

starring none other than

the biggest star

on the Paramount lot.

Eddie Murphy was going to play

an English professor,

who was a little bit different.

NARRATOR: A nutty professor,

you might say, who had a thing

for UFOs and whale songs.

Well, the crew of the Enterprise

searching for whales.

- NARRATOR: But...

- It just didn't work.

TENUTO: It was too convoluted.

How do you

balance out the comedy

with the science fiction?

NARRATOR: The one part

of the script that worked

was the whales.

With that piece of the puzzle

figured out, Harve Bennett

decided to bring in

a writer who he could

trust wholeheartedly.

TENUTO:

I got an emergency call

saying "Help! Help!"

"We had the script,

we threw it out.

We want to start over."

I said, "What's the story?"

And I remember

Leonard's first words.

He said, "something nice."

NARRATOR: That "something nice"

came with a catch.

And I was not allowed

to read their script.

'Cause I asked. I said,

"Should I read it?"

And they said,

"No, please don't."

NARRATOR: Harve had an idea

to speed things up.

What's your plan?

Harve said. "I'll write

the outer space parts

"and you write the Earth parts."

NARRATOR: It was

a kind of cosmic job share.

My first line in Star Trek I V

is "When are we?"

NARRATOR: A s in,

"What's the date?"

I believe we have arrived

at the latter half

of the 20th century.

That's where I came in.

And I went out when they

start talking about

D.H. Lawrence.

They say the sea is cold,

but the sea contains

the hottest blood of all.

NARRATOR: D.H. Lawrence was in,

Eddie Murphy was out.

And so was a storyline

that would have lit up

the tabloids on Vulcan.

We would have learned

that Saavik was pregnant

with Spock's child.

[BABY CRYING]

NARRATOR: Which was

the off spring of this encounter

with teenage Spock

in Star Trek Ill.

Arguably modern cinema's

most romantic high-five.

I have a telegram

that Harve Bennett sent me.

He says "I, too, am delighted

you are with us.

"Have a wonderful sh**t,

"and bring a Vulcan

obstetrician along

just in case.

"Love, Harve."

NARRATOR: But ultimately,

there was only room

for one Vulcan

on this trip back in time.

They ended the chapter,

so to speak.

This is goodbye.

But I was mystified

why she was so unceremoniously

booted out of IV.

Like, I didn't understand that.

NARRATOR: Ron Moore wasn't

the only one.

Many fans were left wondering,

"Had Star Trek's most famous

female Vulcan

"hit the glass ceiling"?

Or something more complicated?

Had they revealed that Saavik

was pregnant,

then you would have

had Saavik in the later films.

Because what are you gonna do?

Are you gonna have Spock

have a child and then

not deal with it?

NARRATOR: And producers felt

that wouldn't make

a good role model

for young Vulcans out there.

So Robin's role was

cut down significantly.

Live long and prosper,

Lieutenant.

Creatively,

would I have loved to play

a pregnant Vulcan?

Yes, very much so.

It didn't matter. It had been

so, so good to me

up until that point

that I think one can

only, you know, be so greedy.

NARRATOR: Instead,

the original crew

of the Enterprise

returned home on

an aquatic mission.

KIRK: Everybody remember

where we parked.

It was always intended

to be a fish out of water story.

Fish out of water is always

an interesting concept.

I'm from Iowa.

I only work in outer space.

NARRATOR: It seemed everyone

liked the script.

I thought it was great.

Chekhov had another good part.

We are in an enemy vessel, sir.

I did not wish to be shot down

on the way to our own funeral.

Good thinking.

It hit on all the right levels.

It was such a relatable story

with such beloved characters.

A storyline that really

resonated with what was

going on at the time.

NARRATOR: And even though

Star Trek creator

Gene Roddenberry

was mostly on the sidelines

these days,

it sounded like Star Trek IV

would be timely,

compelling science fiction,

exactly what Gene

always wanted

in the first place.

It just felt like it was kismet.

NARRATOR: sh**ting on

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

began on February 24, 1986.

Okay, now the question is,

tracking here with Bill...

So let me see you do

the walk and talk, please.

Hold it real quiet, Doug.

NARRATOR: But it didn't

take long for newcomer

and female lead Catherine Hicks

to realize she'd have to fight

not only for her whales,

but also for her space

in this newly crowded film.

Your friend was

messing up my tanks

and messing up my whales.

They like you very much.

But they are

not the hell your whales.

Bill Shatner, I love him,

I swear to God.

But he... You know, it's like

he is an annoying brother.

NARRATOR:

Like annoying brothers,

he had a habit

of getting in the way.

He wanted to be in my shot.

I want it all.

NARRATOR: And Catherine

wasn't giving it to him.

"Get him

out of my shot, Leonard!"

NARRATOR: Now a veteran

director, Leonard knew how to

handle his bickering stars.

I know Bill.

"He shows up to

not work, but when.

"Trust me, I know every angle,

and I'll protect you."

NARRATOR: But to be fair,

it wasn't just Bill

causing disruptions on the set.

One time, I remember

I had a moment with her.

We're in the bridge,

and all kinds of things

are happening

and the machines are going,

and the wind is blowing

and all the actors around

are working.

Sulu, that's all I can give you!

NIMOY: And right in the middle

of this big setup...

"Leonard, can we stop?"

She stops.

And he was like...

NARRATOR: And Catherine was

suddenly face to face

with a very stern Vulcan.

Yeah.

Something just

wasn't working for her.

And I'm yelling at her,

"Keep acting! Keep acting!"

Now we'll get this right.

NARRATOR: After the take,

the ever logical Nimoy

went over to have a talk

with his actors.

He said,

"Catherine, you can't do that.

"There's like a hundred

million things happening.

"Just play the scene out."

NARRATOR: Because

one of the unwritten rules

of working on

a Star Trek film is...

You don't stop an effects scene.

NARRATOR: And as stressful

as they were,

one big effects shot actually

put a smile on Leonard's face.

The diehards say

"Oh my God, Leonard smiled.

Spock never smiles."

NARRATOR: But accidental

smiles can happen

when you're all...

Having a bit of fun.

NARRATOR: Well, worrying

about die hards

and what they think

seems to be par for the course

on a Star Trek film.

Just ask associate producer

Brooke Breton,

who is getting

her first big break

on a feature film.

They brought me in

to create a lot of

the material

that would play

in Starfleet Command

when everything

was being disrupted

by the probe.

NARRATOR: Ah, the probe.

It appears to be

a probe, captain.

Everybody had warned me,

"Well, if you don't

get this right, you know,

you're in deep trouble."

Because they're

paying attention.

Those fans really pay

attention to everything.

And there are

a few nights where

I didn't sleep all that well,

thinking about, "Oh my gosh,

I hope the fans, I hope

they're good with this."

NARRATOR: But when it came

to the probe itself,

they could rest easy.

Because the movie's effects

were in the safe hands

of Industrial Light and Magic.

And as usual,

they were thinking big.

Or maybe not big enough.

I think it's one of those things

where you,

you come up with the idea

and you go,

Ooh, it's this big,

gigantic cylindrical thing.

It'll be like the Monolith,

in 2001.

But then there's nothing

to tell you how big it is,

and no matter

how you photograph it,

it doesn't seem to

improve it in any way.

NARRATOR: ILM's initial efforts

looked good on paper,

but only on paper.

Nimoy called in the cavalry,

asking ILM's top

visual effects guru

to drop everything and rush

to Star Trek's rescue.

I gotta call,

both from Leonard,

and Harve Bennett,

begging me

to take the show over.

It was a 911 call.

NARRATOR:

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

was in trouble.

I am receiving whale song.

NARRATOR:

The producers of Star Trek IV

had a whale-sized problem.

Well, it's not just the whales.

UHURA: We're tracking a probe

of unknown origin.

NARRATOR:

Their alien probe looked like

something else altogether.

All I saw was

a big water heater.

NARRATOR: This is just

one of the problems

Ken Ralston was brought in

to fix.

A big, dumb shape.

NARRATOR:

But he had to do it...

As cheaply as possible.

Conceptually,

they wanted the probe

to look like a whale.

Specifically, humpback whale.

BRETON: It looked

rather ridiculous.

It looked like a water heater.

NARRATOR: With no time

or money to burn,

Ken thought...

"I can't design another ship.

What am I going to do

to hide this thing?"

And you're just going to have

to take your best shot.

NARRATOR: The solution

had two parts.

- One...

- RALSTON:

I painted it glossy black.

BRETON: Making it look

almost greasy, watery,

giving it a lot more texture.

NARRATOR: Ah, much better.

- And two...

- RALSTON: Lit it in ways

where it kinda came and went.

NARRATOR:

Reminiscent of the Monolith

in Kubrick's 2001.

I hoped. No offense

to whoever designed it.

NARRATOR: But there would be

no hiding the whales.

There be whales here!

When you saw whales

look like they were

swimming in water,

they actually had

a whale puppet.

I remember there was a guy

named Walt Conti

who had designed these whales,

an animatronic puppet

that was remote-controlled.

[CROWD GASPING]

GILLIAN: Beautiful, aren't they?

National Geographic

actually called

to find out how we had

photographed

real whales like that.

Perfect whales

right in our hands.

NARRATOR:

But there was one scene

that couldn't be done

even with

the best animatronics.

It was a sequence

that involved going

inside of Kirk's thoughts,

and there were these

blobby liquidy shapes.

It turns into this

surreal something or other.

It was trying to do something

artistic and interesting.

NARRATOR:

But what resulted

was more...

Artsy fartsy.

Ugh! I hated that sequence.

NARRATOR: The special effects

may have been special

in unexpected ways,

but under Nimoy's

diligent direction,

the film wrapped on schedule

and under budget,

a rarity for Star Trek films.

So perhaps it was

not a complete surprise

that when the film debuted

on Thanksgiving weekend

in 1986,

it was an instant hit.

This unlikely

comedic opera of whale song

and environmental messages

brought a whole new audience

to Star Trek,

breaking in

133 million dollars worldwide.

NEMECEK: For the first time,

Star Trek is on the cover

of Newsweek magazine.

This is like, awesome.

This is incredible.

All the geeks in the closet

all through the '70s,

you could only dream

of this moment.

Right? But that was

a real watershed moment,

showing where Star Trek was,

forget pop culture,

in the culture, period.

Everybody not going to Earth

had better get off.

Star Trek I V

is really a crossover movie.

A lot of fans who are starting

to show their new girlfriend

or boyfriend, Star Trek,

you start with Star Trek IV.

Our own world

was waiting for us to save it.

WINTER:

It was fun. The material

attracted people that were

outside of the Trek family

and Trek fans.

it's the least Star-Treky,

of all the Star Trek movies.

You're very perceptive.

It's ecological.

It's relevant.

If you do a Star Trek film,

that's the one to do

if you're not into sci-fi.

It is a compliment.

- It is.

- Oh.

And that's just good writing.

That's good writing

and good storytelling

on Harve Bennett's

and Nick Meyer's part.

But everybody was happy with it

made the studio money,

and they decided

to make another film.

[WHALE SONG]

NARRATOR: Thanks in part

to the whales,

Nimoy went on to have

a whale of a time

directing hit comedies.

But he was far from done

with Star Trek.

MOORE: Star Trek Il, Ill and IV

work so well, creatively

and commercially.

it's almost like

a foregone conclusion

that this is now a franchise.

NARRATOR: And that meant

the next movie was guaranteed.

It was written in the stars.

So, to direct, naturally,

they turned again

to one of Star Trek's

biggest stars.

Excuse me.

This time, the other

biggest star.

James T. Kirk.

NARRATOR: Because

William Shatner

had negotiated his way

to the real captain's chair.

Now Shatner had

the famous Favored Nations

contract With Nimoy.

NARRATOR: Which was

designed to guarantee

Nimoy and Shatner

each had their turn helming

a Star Trek movie.

MOORE: That deal was made

to let Leonard direct I V

and Bill could direct V.

So that Bill felt comfortable

with Leonard doing IV.

Very clever, Captain.

Shatner's claiming

the right to direct,

and everybody's like

"Sure, fine, go for it."

NARRATOR: And while it was

a contractual thing,

Shatner had earned

his directing wings,

small ones.

Shatner had directed

TV episodes. He wasn't like

a complete novice at that.

NARRATOR: If nothing else,

Shatner had proved adept

at directing himself

in the popular police drama

T.J. Hooker.

So, with his Favored Nations

clause in his back pocket,

Shatner was

given the green light.

With the team around him,

the camera team,

the support team,

the design team, the studio.

NARRATOR: Like Brooke Breton.

She was back.

And, of course, Harve Bennett

who'd been integral

to the success

of every Star Trek movie

since The Wrath of Khan.

Oh, and there was also

Star Trek alumnus Ralph Winter.

I was the post-supervisor

on Star Trek Il.

NARRATOR:

And he'd risen the ranks

to become producer.

So Shatner was in safe hands.

Everybody felt like

he was capable

of pulling it off.

Go for it, Bill.

NARRATOR:

Oh, and as for Leonard Nimoy...

I seem to remember

that Leonard was a little

reticent to even be in V.

NARRATOR: Since Paramount

owed him Star Trek

merchandising revenue.

So I remember that Harve and I

went to bat for that.

Harve prevailed.

NARRATOR: So the next time

the three met for lunch,

Harve made sure to bring

an extra brown paper bag.

We brought three bags

for lunch.

NARRATOR:

Bags one through three

were just ordinary lunch,

but Leonard spotted

a fourth bag.

"Who's that bag for?"

"Oh, it's for you.

Open the bag."

Million dollar check.

NARRATOR: After that,

Nimoy couldn't say no.

He starts laughing.

"Yeah, I'll be in the movie."

Let's go to work.

NARRATOR:

At the risk of biting off

more than he could chew,

Shatner took

the biggest bite he could.

He wanted to make

the biggest damn

Star Trek movie ever.

We'll need all the power

you can muster, Mister.

NARRATOR:

And thinking big meant

choosing an ambitious story

about the biggest

possible topic.

Something very big.

[ALL LAUGHING]

WINTER: I think we were

sort of smoking

our own press releases

when we went to do V.

Because we picked

the hardest topic

you can possibly pick.

NARRATOR:

Shatner wanted to return

to a favorite Star Trek theme.

I'm God.

Probably not a bigger topic

that you can tackle

than meeting God.

God?

Where is God? Who is God?

KIRK: God is a busy man.

Shatner's original story doc

was called "An Act of Love."

NARRATOR: But maybe

Shatner's script was not

inspired by God,

but rather by false prophets.

Not everyone can hear

the voice of God.

A commentary on crooked

televangelists.

In the name of Jesus...

NARRATOR: 1980s America had

no shortage of those.

This audience would warm you up

on a cold, chilly October day.

The people who were

hyping a flock.

Help me with

a thousand dollar gift,

Sucking people in

for their contribution money.

The movie was going

to be a commentary

on basically charlatans.

Why is God angry?

NARRATOR: It would tell

the story of a man on

a mission from God.

SYBOK: The greatest

adventure of all time.

After The Voyage Home,

it was time for a voyage

to the Promised Land.

The discovery of Sha Ka Ree.

NARRATOR: Which,

surprisingly, turned out

to have Scottish origins.

Because if you say it

in a certain way,

Sha Ka Ree.

- Sha Ka Ree sounds like...

- Sean Connery.

The quest for the Grail.

Who producers would have

loved to have played Sybok.

Again, it's Shatner

dreaming big.

And he was busy

and it was never going to work.

NARRATOR: So the closest

they got was...

Sha Ka Ree.

WINTER:

Sha Ka Ree was definitely

a reference to Sean Connery.

We really wanted Sean

in the movie.

NARRATOR: Instead, the role

went to an actor

who could be almost mistaken

for the man he stood in for.

Have faith, my friend.

Sha Ka Ree.

NARRATOR: Unable to

secure Sean Connery

for Star Trek V,

producers discovered

their charismatic cult leader

in Laurence Luckinbill.

It's me. It's Sybok.

Laurence Luckinbill

more than fills

the Vulcan bits

of what Sybok needs to be.

That's exactly

what I'm counting on.

Larry resonated with

Harve and myself.

We shall seek the answers.

Together.

And so we were fortunate

and pinching ourselves

that we got him.

NARRATOR: Actor David Warner

was cast as...

St. John Talbot,

the Federation representative

here on Nimbus Ill.

WINTER: David's a fine actor

and we were happy to have him.

He drank too much,

but he was a fine actor.

[SPEAKING KLINGON]

NARRATOR: Todd Bryant

and Spice Williams-Crosby

sported the foreheads.

[SPEAKING KLINGON]

Spice, you know, she was

a great bodybuilder,

weightlifter,

a lot of fun.

She has wonderful muscles.

NARRATOR: And for the

Romulan consul, producers

left no stone unturned.

I was Caithlin Dar

in Star Trek V.

I'm Caithlin Dar.

Casting director said

I was one of 2,000 people

that they auditioned

for this role.

Well, then it appears

I've arrived just in time.

It was a roller coaster.

I mean, there were

eight callbacks in the end.

NARRATOR: Cynthia was

a new kind of Romulan.

I know my character

didn't exactly look

like a Romulan,

NARRATOR: And it was all to do

with continuing the diversity

of the Star Trek saga.

CYNTHIA: The character

of Caithlin Dar was bi-racial.

I mean, her name, Caithlin Dar.

Very Irish-Terran,

and Dar, very Romulan.

NARRATOR: Romulan,

but only to a point.

I never got pointy years.

NARRATOR:

But why would producers hide

such an important detail?

Because it was too expensive

to do my ears every day.

NARRATOR:

Going au natural on the ears

was one money saver,

but producers applied

the same penny pinching logic

to visual effects,

where they made a brave call.

We're going to find

a cheaper vendor, basically.

We made a choice.

We didn't want to spend

the money the way we'd been

spending before.

NARRATOR: But producers

wouldn't be able to replace

ILM, the titan

of Hollywood effects,

as easily as they covered up

those Romulan ears.

They wanted

a number of companies

to do a test

and show us what, you know,

this imagination of God,

would be,

which is a tall order,

no matter what.

- NARRATOR: After all...

- How do you portray God?

We sought

only your infinite wisdom.

NARRATOR: The man that claimed

to have an answer

as splendid as his beard.

was special effects artist

Bran Ferren,

whose more traditional

live effects

had caught the eyes

of the producers.

He really fancied himself

an in-camera-effects person.

You doubt me?

I seek proof.

The character of God,

Bran showed us some stuff

that was really clever,

like taking silver-screen

material that you

project in a theater.

ripping it up,

putting it on a cylinder

and spinning it,

and then project God

down there with big lights,

and we've never

seen that before.

And we're watching it

in camera.

Bill,

and a number of others.

became very enamored with that

because it was going to be

an in-camera effect.

NARRATOR: Ferren was

no one-man ILM,

but his in-camera

effects were immediate

and tangible.

And that was

extremely appealing

to people who had

a very short schedule

and not much of a budget.

NARRATOR: And even though

the last time they didn't ILM,

things wound up

pretty expensive.

They decided to go

with Bran Ferren.

NARRATOR:

With this special effects

team onboard,

production was ready to roll.

Filming began

at Yosemite in 1988,

and on day one of sh**ting,

on his first feature film

as a director,

Shatner hit a wall,

but more specifically...

Uh, fiber-glass wall,

which I will climb.

They had to build

a side of a cliff

in a parking lot at Yosemite.

Theoretically, it's supposed

to look like El Cap.

NARRATOR:

Which it certainly did.

But this was only

the first part of the illusion.

[GRUNTS]

[SCREAMS]

Shatner falls at Yosemite,

and Spock goes after him.

[SCREAMING STOPS]

WINTER: That scene,

we just turned the camera

and build a set sideways,

so that the ground has rocks

and leaves glued to it.

and that's the ground.

Here's Shatner coming,

you know, this way,

to hit the ground.

Spock comes down this way

to catch him.

These are not fancy tricks.

And they don't look great

when you go back

and look at them now.

Hi, Bones! Mind if we

dropped in for dinner?

NARRATOR: Designing sets

on Terra Firma was

one thing, but in space...

There was

just so many concerns

about the ship shots.

Early tests showed

the in-camera effects

for the starship shots

had come a long way

since Star Trek IV.

A long way

in the wrong direction.

What was

particularly challenging

for Bran is

I think he thought it was

going to be simpler to do

and to replicate

the kind of work

that was being done at ILM.

That was a serious mistake.

NARRATOR: The magisterial

elegance of the Enterprise

in the previous films

had devolved into

something less nuanced.

The years of experience

of sh**ting the Enterprise

and the pearlescence paint

and all the fine details

is an accumulation

of years of experience,

and especially

on a tight schedule,

with Bran Ferren.

He had a lot of

technological know-how,

but it didn't necessarily apply

to how to get the show done.

NARRATOR: Bran Ferren wasn't

the only one struggling

to realize his vision.

That problem went

all the way up

to the director.

Me? What did I do?

Star Trek V's director

was pouring his heart

and soul into the project,

BRETON: Bill was

very passionate.

He brought a lot to trying

to make the story

something that he had

in his heart

and in his mind.

As a director. he was

generous, compassionate,

kind, supportive

of all the actors,

NARRATOR:

But Shatner's acting instincts

were not helping him

direct his first feature.

All the other staging things

in terms of transitions

and the way

you're telling a story,

and the way it plays out...

Yeah, he wasn't

disciplined about that.

NARRATOR: Now his film was

coming apart at the seams.

RALPH:

Two thirds of the way through.

And in Southern Ridgecrest

when we're filming

all the stuff with God,

that it starts to just be...

It's a mess.

NARRATOR: It seems Shatner's

style of directing,

involved almost as much

ad-libbing as his acting.

WINTER: You know,

having people running a camera,

then while they're

running with camera,

well, some of you fall down.

NARRATOR: But no one

did fall down, because...

WINTER: Normally you would

prepare that ahead of time.

What do you expect to happen?

NARRATOR:

And while they were

having trouble falling down,

Nichelle Nichols

was having trouble

staying on her feet.

Do you know what happens

when you're on a dune?

The sand does

what it wants to do,

and it's not always

what you want it to do.

NARRATOR: It seemed like

every day there were some

unexpected challenges.

Production at times

seemed a bit shaky.

And we're trying to help

with a cameraman,

trying to help out

with the First AD,

trying to help out

in all the other areas.

But you know,

there's only so much you can do.

It didn't gel.

NARRATOR: Producers

had seen enough,

and convened

for an emergency summit.

What are we gonna do about this?

How are we gonna control this?

NARRATOR: A s panic set in,

Paramount contemplated

the unthinkable,

demoting the captain.

But was anyone willing

to take the wheel?

Harve Bennett had asked me

if I would take over

directing it.

And I said, "What is it about?"

And they said, "It's about

the search for God."

NARRATOR: Presented with

the chance to get back into

the director's chair

of one of cinema's

biggest franchises,

Nicholas said...

"I don't think so." You know,

I just, I didn't like the odds.

NARRATOR:

Neither did Paramount,

but two thirds of the movie

was already in the can.

The die is cast.

NARRATOR:

And with little time

to course correct,

one thing was becoming

very apparent.

Holy... We're really

gonna hit the wall.

With what little time

they did have,

drastic changes were ordered

to at least rein in the budget.

Everything ended up

being simplified.

NARRATOR:

For example...

Creating what should

have been a much bigger town,

I must have taken

every bit of stock scenery

that was in the backlot

out to the desert

to build that little city.

And given that it was

expensive to build,

when it came time

to tear it all down...

The town mysteriously burned.

I don't know what happened,

but I know that it's cheaper

than striking it.

NARRATOR: I guess it must've

been an act of God.

Because, ultimately,

even God himself was forced

to bow to budget cuts.

The scaled back special effects

went a bit Old Testament.

Here is the proof you seek.

Bran Ferren's special effects

were so short of the mark,

they were mistaken for tests.

It was childish,

and we all really did believe

that that was just

a preliminary,

and that the good stuff

was coming later.

But it didn't really evolve

all that much past that.

NARRATOR: And it wasn't just

sets and special effects

that were feeling budget cuts.

So were the costumes.

The Rock Man was

a rock monster

that comes together

out of living boulders

on this planet of weird stuff.

Bill really wanted that.

NARRATOR: But in 1988,

the technology

just wasn't there

to make it happen.

It looks amateurish,

because it is.

The rock creature

was a disaster.

Boop.

NARRATOR:

But on the bright side...

If that had worked, then

we wouldn't have had the great

homage in Galaxy Quest.

NARRATOR: That's right.

This grumpy customer

is a loving nod

to William Shatner's ambition.

The rock monster he never had,

and we never saw.

But despite all of

the setbacks, Bill Shatner,

still very much believed

in the picture.

I remember he came to us

three weeks

after the picture ended,

and said, "I'm done.

I've edited the picture.

We're all done."

And he leaves the room

and Harve and I looked

at each other

and go, "Holy...

We're in trouble."

Because you can't possibly

edit the movie that quick.

NARRATOR: Sure enough,

after viewing a rough cut

rougher than most,

- producers were left asking...

- What's going on?

It was a mess.

It didn't make any sense.

It was like this giant puzzle

laid out in front of you.

I was like, "All right,

how do we fix this?"

NARRATOR: A radical makeover

was in the cards.

We were grasping at straws,

trying to figure out

how can we beef this up?

I'd put lipstick on the pig

so that, you know,

it's more attractive.

NARRATOR: Desperate

to beautify their pig,

Jerry Goldsmith was brought in

to apply some musical lipstick.

So, you know, we were

hoping that the music's

gonna elevate it.

NARRATOR: The music was good,

but not that good.

BRETON:

If a project is stumbling

and disappointing,

it's not going to be saved

by a terrific score.

NARRATOR:

It needed major surgery.

And so we had to recut it.

And the emergency surgeon

was Harve Bennett.

Harve was really known

in his writing

as a structuralist.

He knew how to

structure a story.

And so, Harve just went at it

in the cutting room for a while.

NARRATOR: And quickly

came to the realization

he would need

more than just edits.

NEMECEK:

The whole Klingon scene

at the end on their bridge

was added to kind of clean up

the ending of Kirk's rescue

and being reunited with Spock.

Our new gunner.

NARRATOR: And even if you can't

work a miracle,

you can still act like

you're about to reveal one.

Spock.

NARRATOR:

Paramount's marketing arm

went into overdrive

asking audiences

to strap themselves in.

You saw the teaser poster

with this row of theater chairs.

And the caption says,

"Why are they installing

seat belts in movie theater

chairs this summer?"

Everyone's like,

"Oh, it's exciting.

The movie's opening."

And I was like...

You know,

[MUMBLING]

You know, you're just like

you're, you're sweating

because you know

what's going to happen.

You know it's not up to snuff.

NARRATOR:

Oh, come on. That's up to

the audience to decide.

Premiering on June 9th, 1989,

it raked in 17.3 million

in its opening weekend

box office.

It actually opened

a half million

more than IV had opened,

which was a big, great sign.

NARRATOR: But week two was

a different story.

It just sunk like a rock

after that.

NARRATOR:

Box office fell 59%

in the second week,

to just over $7 million.

Like the rogue rock monster,

Star Trek V had come

crashing down to earth.

Fans were disappointed.

NARRATOR:

And they weren't the only ones.

Star Trek V is so slow

to get moving, and so

confused in its plotting...

I had a stern talking to

from the studio afterwards,

and saying,

"Don't ever do this again."

This is not good.

Star Trek V looked

for all the world

like it might end careers.

When it was over, I thought,

"Well, they'll never offer me

another picture after this."

NARRATOR:

And even hastened the end

of something much bigger.

We all kind of thought

"This might be It."

You know, this might be

the franchise k*ller.

[KIRK SCREAMING]

NARRATOR: Star Trek V

was a box office b*mb.

I am hardly

in a position to disagree.

NARRATOR: But its failure

was not fatal.

The franchise had something

a single dud film

could not erase.

NEMECEK: All of those say

Hollywood, and the franchise,

and the films are all totally

about the bottom line.

There was a lot of affinity

beyond budget dollars

for Star Trek.

And a lot of affinity

for those actors.

NARRATOR: And with a growing

and vocal fan base in mind,

Paramount executives

asked themselves...

"Do we really want to end

Star Trek movies

and the Kirk era,

"with that movie?"

Your pain runs deep.

NARRATOR: While the answer

was obvious,

the story for

the next film was not.

WINTER: Harve had proposed

to Paramount

to do a movie

about young Kirk

and young Spock, etc.

at the Starfleet Academy.

And he had developed this

in some detail.

You want to go back?

NARRATOR:

With an aging original cast,

producer Harve Bennett

had his eye on the future.

Maybe they're throwing us

a retirement party.

That suits me.

I just bought a boat.

NARRATOR: Harve Bennett

and Ralph Winter teamed up

for the proposed prequel.

We developed a screenplay

with David Loughery,

who wrote five,

and Harve really

wanted to make that.

Still think we're finished?

More than ever.

NARRATOR:

A changing of the guard

was being conceived

to allow the original cast

a graceful exit.

You and I have grown so old

and so inflexible.

They're going to age out of

being able to do this.

Here you go, Paramount.

Here's a perfect way

to continue the franchise.

- NARRATOR: But...

- The studio didn't wanna do it.

NARRATOR: In fact, just about

no one wanted to do it.

NEMECEK: Gene,

the studio, the fan base.

And the actors.

They're all saying,

"No, we're not quite ready

to go out to pasture yet."

People can be

very frightened of change.

NARRATOR: Paramount was

not quite ready for the future

because they were

not done with the past.

They said they weren't happy

with the fifth Star Trek movie.

My pain, it runs deep.

And they didn't want to

go out on that note

with the original cast.

I wouldn't.

NARRATOR: There was a legacy

that needed to be honored.

WINTER:

Frank Mancuso and studio

wanted to capitalize

on the 25th anniversary

from the marketing

and distribution aspect.

It was a nice ending

to all of this.

There was

so much more momentum

on a larger scale.

KIRK: This is the final cruise

of the Starship Enterprise

under my command.

They decided there was

going to be a Star Trek VI

with the original cast.

MAN: The Undiscovered Country.

NARRATOR: Everyone was

on board for one last blast

with the original cast,

barring one key crew member.

Harve really just

didn't want to do that.

He really wanted

to make the prequel.

He left very upset

and very disillusioned

and feeling very manipulated

by Paramount.

"After all I've done for you?"

And they're like, "Sorry, no."

So he's like, "Okay, then

I guess our time together

is at an end."

NARRATOR: Ralph Winter

would stay on as producer.

But the biggest

personnel question was...

Who's been

the most successful with

our Star Trek movies so far?

I think my passion

is directing.

[CLEARS THROAT]

Leonard directing...

NARRATOR: And...

And Nick Meyer

writing-directing.

NARRATOR: After Shatner's

mismanaging of Star Trek V,

the studio wanted

a safer pair of hands.

NARRATOR: They certainly

went back to Nick,

to be sure. [CHUCKLES]

"Here's the guy

that directed Il,

and did a lot of writing on IV.

And let's do this

the way we know that works.

"Let's not take any chances

like we did on V."

I got to sit down.

"You know, we're not gonna

screw this up.

"This is the 25th anniversary.

"This is the one

we've got to deliver on.

"We've got to go out

with a bang."

NARRATOR:

Nicholas Meyer had not only

worked on Star Trek films,

but he had also saved them

and even done

some writing for free.

But this time,

it was all about money.

They said they wanted to do it

for about 30 million bucks.

And would I be interested?

And I said, "Sure."

NARRATOR: Paramount

had already confirmed

the other member

of their dream team.

I assume command of this ship.

MEYER: I get a call

from Leonard.

"Can I come and talk to you

about a Star Trek VI movie,

"which I'm gonna

executive produce?"

And I said, "Sure."

It's a case of Leonard and Nick

kind of saying,

It's up to you and me, buddy.

NARRATOR: Leonard

already had a concept.

He said,

"Star Trek has

always reflected

"things that are going on

on Planet Earth,

inevitably."

NARRATOR: And in 1989,

what was happening

on Planet Earth

was about to change everything.

I'm Peter Jennings in New York.

Just a short while ago,

astonishing news

from East Germany,

where the East German

authorities have said,

in essence,

that the Berlin Wall doesn't

mean anything anymore.

NARRATOR: Nimoy saw

the fall of the Berlin Wall,

and the collapse

of the Soviet Union,

as a potential

turning point for Star Trek,

a show originally conceived

at the height of the Cold w*r.

We Klingons have a reputation

for ruthlessness.

MEYER: The Klingons

have always been

our stand-ins for the Russians.

"What if the wall

comes down in outer space?"

And that was all I needed.

You primed my pump.

Okay, great.

NARRATOR: The starting point

for the story was inspired

by another Cold w*r flashpoint.

JENNINGS: There has been

a nuclear accident

in the Soviet Union.

One of the atomic reactors

at the Chernobyl

atomic power plant

in the city of Kiev was damaged.

We start with

an intergalactic Chernobyl.

Like a nuclear meltdown,

and their moon has exploded,

their energy source.

[MAN SCREAMING]

MEYER: And suddenly,

the Klingon Empire

is no more

and all these immigrants

are gonna be

trooping to Planet Earth

and other places, disperse,

because their planet

is collapsing.

The Klingons have

never been trustworthy.

NARRATOR: This existential

threat to the Klingons

would also prove

an existential crisis for Kirk.

They are dying.

Let them die.

Who am I,

if I have no enemy

to define me?

Would you and your party

care to dine this evening?

We would be delighted.

Kirk's assigned to escort

the Klingon Chancellor.

[CLEARS THROAT]

We must do this again sometime.

The Klingon Chancellor

gets assassinated...

[SCREAMS]

...due to Kirk's negligence.

What happened?

Because he hates Klingons.

- They're animals.

- Because they k*lled his son.

KIRK: I can never forgive

them for the death of my boy.

They're all unfurled,

you know, in a big, "ugh" gush.

Tell us that you plan

to take revenge

for the death of your son.

It parallels a great deal

of what's going on today

in this universe

and a more or less

a quest for peace.

NARRATOR: Leonard Nimoy

liked Nicholas idea.

And he said,

"Great, this is great."

NARRATOR:

But there was one opinion

that had to be heard,

even if no one

wanted to hear it.

MEYER:

I met Gene Roddenberry

when the script was finished

and he had

a lot of objections to it.

Some surprise that Roddenberry

would be dissatisfied

with the script

because that means

he's got to fix it.

That means he gets paid.

NARRATOR:

One of Gene's objections

had to do with the traitor

the producers decided

should be...

Lieutenant, are you wearing

your hair differently?

NARRATOR: Lieutenant Saavik.

Out of the gate, they wanted

to bring Saavik back.

Originally played

by Kirstie Alley,

and later by Robin Curtis.

But how could they have

evolved so quickly?

MEYER: Ideally, it was

to have been Saavik.

It was to have been somebody

that you liked, trusted,

whose tragedy was

this terror of the unknown,

of change.

And that made the whole story

more complicated.

NARRATOR: But complicated

was not how Gene

saw his beloved Vulcans.

He did not like the idea

of making her a traitor.

Lie?

A choice.

MEYER: We had a meeting

with a lot of other people

in the room, in his office,

I had so much

raining down on me.

We just created

another character.

So there are

a lot of forces here

that aligned

to have the turncoat

be someone that you just met.

- Lieutenant...

- Valeris, sir.

NARRATOR: An all-new Vulcan.

She's a Vulcan, all right.

NARRATOR: And there was

one other element

to the story

that Gene found objectionable.

The Federation

is no more than

a h*m*-Sapiens only club.

MEYER: He,

in retrospect, perhaps, was

understandably mortified

to find that the crew

of the Enterprise was r*cist.

They all look alike.

What about that smell?

MEYER: Which was sort of

the point I was trying to make,

but it was absolutely

antithetical to his view

about the perfectibility

of people.

We were at loggerheads.

AZETBUR: He's r*cist.

NARRATOR: But at least everyone

could agree on the budget,

because what's not to like

about $30 million?

When VI was proposed

to me in London

by Frank Mancuso,

he said "$30 million."

NARRATOR: But having already

moved his family to LA...

I rented a house

for my family.

We're all there.

NARRATOR:

Nicholas attended

a Hollywood meeting

and found that something

had been lost in the trip

across the Atlantic.

I was in a meeting

with Ralph Winter,

Steve Jaffe, Leonard Nimoy

and Paramount.

NARRATOR:

In other words, the bigwigs.

MEYER: And we're all excited

to be making this movie.

Now we're talking about

a budget of 25 million

and I go, "Wait, wait.

"We're not talking about 25,

we're talking about 30.

"Because Frank said 30

when I agreed to come here."

NARRATOR: It seemed

Paramount now had

a new vision for the film.

MEYER: "Well, Frank

has this vision,"

and I said "Stop!"

NARRATOR: That turned out

to be the trigger word.

"Don't talk to me

about Frank and his vision.

"I'm the artist.

I have the vision.

"And I want to

give you some math,

"which shouldn't be

my responsibility.

But I'm going to do it."

NARRATOR: Stand by

for a lesson in basic

film production accounting.

You have the cast,

you have the script,

producer's fees,

director's fees,

all of that is 14 million

before you've put

any film in the can.

And back then, it was film.

NARRATOR: Expensive film.

Then there's the small matter

of post-production.

You've got $2.5 million

in post-production or something.

You have $4 million

in special effects.

We're now up to, I don't know,

$19 million.

I can't remember.

I added it all up.

NARRATOR: Actually,

we're already over 20 million.

But the point is...

Where's the movie?

NARRATOR: In Hollywood,

everyone lies,

except the numbers.

Numbers don't lie.

I see we have a long way to go.

"Would you excuse us

for a minute?"

And we sat there

and they went into another room

and we waited

for about 20 minutes.

And they came back

and they said,

"$27 million."

And I said, "Guys,

you're confused.

"I'm not negotiating.

"I'm going to see Frank Mancuso.

"I'm going to explain it to him.

"We're going to settle

this whole thing."

So I go see Frank Mancuso,

and he cordially hears me out,

and he said,

"Thank you very much,

Mr. Meyer for explaining this."

I leave,

and he cancels the movie.

The operation is over.

NARRATOR: With Star Trek VI

canceled over

budgetary concerns,

Nicholas Meyer suddenly had

a lot of time on his hands

to think about

where it all went wrong.

I am in total shock,

wandering around the lot

like a lost soul.

And I would stand around

an empty sound stage,

and I thought, "Oh, yeah,

this is where

the peace conference

"was supposed to be."

NARRATOR: When out of nowhere,

the phone rang.

There's no one else there.

I pick up the line, "Hello?"

And this voice says "Nick?"

And I said, "Yeah."

He said, "This is

Stanley Jaffe."

NARRATOR: Stanley Jaffe was

the super producer

behind some of Hollywood's

recent big box office hits.

MEYER: Now, Stanley Jaffe

and Sherry Lansing

had made Kramer vs. Kramer,

and they had made

Fatal Attraction.

NARRATOR: But it was

Stanley Jaffe's new job,

not his track record,

that was about to make

Nicholas's day.

He said. "Frank Mancuso

is not with the studio anymore.

"Sherry Lansing and I

are running the studio.

And I hear you have a problem."

And I said, "Yeah,

I need $5 million."

And he said, "You got it."

And he hung up.

And suddenly, we were back on.

NARRATOR: And just like that,

all of Nicholas's problems

were the kind

with creative solutions,

like casting,

which stretched

all the way back

to the original series.

Mark Leonard as Spock's father.

That was a no brainer.

Quite logical.

NARRATOR: Having appeared

as Spock's father,

Mark Lenard was an old hand

at playing a Vulcan.

While Kim Cattrall was new

as Lieutenant Valeris.

Sir, I address you

as a kindred intellect.

NARRATOR:

Star Trek V's David Warner

underwent a makeover

and re-emerged as

the cultured Chancellor Gorkon.

You've not experienced

Shakespeare

until you've read him

in the original Klingon.

Kurtwood Smith played

the Federation president.

I have ordered

a full scale investigation.

And Nicholas Meyer

had only one actor in mind

to play the rambunctious

General Chang.

I have so wanted

to meet you, Captain.

When the time came, I said

to my casting director,

Mary Jo Slater,

"Don't come back

without Christopher Plummer,

"or we're sunk."

Cry havoc!

And let's slip the dogs of w*r.

And his only thing was,

"You know, don't strangle me

with makeup."

So he wound up being

sort of a modified Klingon look.

NARRATOR: When it came

to Klingons,

Nicholas's biggest problem

is figuring out

how to assassinate one

in space.

One of the things

that always struck me is,

when you watch Star Wars

or any outer space movie,

nobody's ever floating.

They all walk down

these corridors

like they're in a Holiday Inn.

And I'm thinking,

"Ooh, what a cool idea.

"They knock out

the gravity machine

"and two guys in magnetic boots

go in and blast away."

NARRATOR: Which leads to...

Floating blood. Ooh.

NARRATOR: Which raised

a surprisingly vexing question.

What color should

Klingon blood be?

Originally, I thought about it.

It should be green.

And Leonard nixed that.

I'm not sure why,

but he didn't,

didn't like it.

NARRATOR: Possibly because

Vulcan blood is green.

So producers went

to the other end

of the spectrum.

On Next Generation,

Klingon blood had seemed to be

just kind of a dark red brown.

NARRATOR: But that sounded

a little dull.

And we just wanted it

to be different.

- And so...

- I chose this pink.

We retconned that as saying,

Well, when Klingon blood

is in no-gravity,

then it turns that way.

NARRATOR: But if gallons of

floating pink blood

were unsettling for some,

not to worry.

I didn't think about

Pepto-Bismol,

and I wish I had.

NARRATOR: So Klingon blood

looked a little bit

like indigestion medicine,

But producers were occupied

with a bigger challenge.

WINTER: Which was, the guy

being shot in the hallway.

NARRATOR: Producers

were stumped about

how to create Zero-G effects

on a shoestring budget.

How do we get

the impact of this guy,

to take the phaser hit,

and then, in a weightless

environment, push him

down the hallway.

NARRATOR:

No CGI would be necessary,

since veteran

production designer

Herman Zimmerman

had an old-fashioned solution.

And we take the whole scene,

the hallway that

we're gonna build

and we built it like this.

So that the guy

who's gonna be shot is hanging.

And now we yanked the guy up

towards the ceiling,

and it looks like

he's weightless

going down the hallway.

NARRATOR: The visual effects

were stunning.

But were they convincing enough

for Star Trek's creator?

Gene Roddenberry still had

a contractual guaranteed say

on Star Trek.

They had basically

the completed cut.

Gene is in his wheelchair,

having had his mini strokes.

He's having good days

and bad days,

more bad days than good days.

NARRATOR: They had

a special screening

just for him

at Paramount Studios.

Producers anxiously waited

for his reaction.

I'm thinking in my head,

"If there's a problem,

A: He gets more money.

"and B: we've got to

deal with that problem."

NARRATOR: And so,

an ailing Gene was seeing

his characters behave

in ways he would

never have imagined.

Like Spock mind-melding

in anger.

It's waterboarding

by sci-fi means,

and it ain't pleasant.

NARRATOR: And yet Star Trek VI

was pleasant enough for Gene.

As they were wheeling him

out the theatre,

he said, "No, I liked it.

Thanks very much."

NARRATOR:

Until he thought about it.

A couple of days later,

here comes a whole list

of complaints and comments

and demands that Gene

wants changed.

NARRATOR: But before

they could get to

the bottom of it...

Gene dies within days.

NARRATOR: And the notes were

never brought up again.

It's kind of an odd

last moment

for Gene and the characters

that he created.

NARRATOR:

Star Trek VI premiered

December 6, 1991.

and The Undiscovered Country

discovered $96 million

worldwide

on its budget of 30 million.

It did well, yes.

For Paramount,

it was the best possible way

to celebrate the franchise's

25th anniversary.

Here's to 25 years,

of joy and happiness,

fussing and fighting.

Yeah.

NARRATOR: But what this

really meant was...

We were done with that cast.

That was, that was the end.

NARRATOR:

At the end of the film,

each actor's signature

appears on the screen.

Signing off both on the roles

they had shaped

into iconic characters...

and also signaling

the end of an era.

Your heart's in your throat

watching those signatures

go up at the end.

NARRATOR: And although it was

the end of an incredible era,

there would be a small return

to the silver screen

for some of

the original cast in 1994's

Star Trek Generations.

And even though Captain Kirk

had clearly lost his place

at the center seat,

he did leave us

with this final moment.

[SIGHS]

It was...

fun.

NARRATOR: While that was

the end of Captain Kirk,

that wasn't the end

of Star Trek.

Quite the opposite.

Because the staggering success

of Star Trek IV

had not only done its part

in saving the whales,

it also saved

televised Star Trek

from extinction.

In 1986, The Voyage Home

is a huge hit,

and the local stations

are saying, "Guys, can you

please do something?

"We've had the same damn little



"we've been showing

for 15 years now,

"but if you would just

make some more Star Trek

for us on TV,

"we'd all make more money."

And it's within several months

of the film's success

that they announce

that Next Generation

is going to be a reality.

NARRATOR: And believe me,

that is quite a story.