Pierce (2024)

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Zijie!

Zijie!

Zijie!

Zijie!

Zijie!

Zijie! I'm coming!

Zijie!

Zihan!

Little brother,

Are you alright?

Okay! Come on!

Come on!

Alright, switch!

Nothing?

Yeah, not a single hit.

That lousy?

Wasn't his older brother

a three-time National Champion?

You mean that psycho?

Bravo!

Amazing!

Thank you.

Thank you.

Who is it?

It's me!

Zijie, come in.

Mother.

I took the wrong one in a rush, sorry.

That's okay.

Your phone's been ringing the whole day.

So how was school today?

Coach is choosing the team

for the Championships soon.

Is that right?

But I'm not sure if I stand a chance.

If you joined the choir like I told you to,

I could coach you.

But you chose fencing.

I like fencing.

Honey, are you ready?

It's you, come in!

My dear.

Zijie's here.

Hello Uncle Zhuang.

Zijie?

What brings you here?

I...

I was bringing Mother's phone to her.

How was training today?

Uh, it was alright.

Coach is choosing the team

for the Championships soon.

Good luck.

I'm sure you'll be selected.

Thanks.

Sorry we can't bring you along today.

It's fine!

Next time the three of us

will do something together.

Unless Zijie...

Sorry, I mean Zihan,

Is planning on visiting soon?

If he is, then our family

I mean, the four of us

Can go somewhere together.

Zihan is so busy with school.

It's tough for him to visit.

It's fine, just the three of us will do.

Hello?

Hello, may I speak to Madam Tang Ai Ling?

She's not here right now.

Can I take a message?

This is Miss Au from the detention center.

Regarding Zihan's release documents,

There's something I need to

discuss with her urgently,

But I can't reach her on her mobile.

Could you have her call me back...

as soon as possible?

Hello?

Can you hear me?

Zijie.

Guess what?

This weekend, Uncle Zhuang

Wants to introduce us to his family!

I think it's about time as well.

I know you have practice,

But could you ask Coach

If you could be a little late...

He's getting released?

When?

This Saturday.

Doesn't he still have...

Six years left?

You know your brother.

He's very persuasive.

Where will he go?

I've arranged for him to stay

at a farm in Pingtung.

So far away?

There, there.

Trust me,

It is better for you that

he leaves Taipei, alright?

Remember,

Lunch on Saturday with

Uncle Zhuang's family!

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon Miss Au.

Happy birthday.

Thank you

So sweet of you to remember every year.

Of course.

Thank you Miss Au!

This is the last time

I'm bringing it for you.

Congratulations,

I'm really happy for you.

I have you to thank, Miss Au.

I don't know what I'd do without you.

Alright.

So,

You'll go straight to

Pingtung from here, right?

You didn't talk to my mother?

Zihan, I'm sorry.

I tried, but I really couldn't

get in touch with her.

But Miss Au, you know

I don't want to go to Pingtung.

But it is so expensive to live in Taipei.

Zihan, I have faith in you.

Work hard for one or two years,

once you've saved enough money,

I'm sure you'll be able

to move back to Taipei.

Or maybe you could help me, Miss Au?

Don't worry, I'll definitely pay you back!

Zihan, you know our rules.

I really can't help you with this.

It's alright, Miss Au.

Thanks for your help anyway.

If you don't mind, Zijie,

Could you please explain to us

what fencing is?

There are three different kinds of blades

Foil, Epee, and Sabre.

I fence Sabre, which is the fastest.

In Sabre we slash instead of poke.

Woah, you slash?

Seems a bit violent?

Zijie, can you teach me how to fence?

It isn't.

Fencing's a fantastic sport.

Some people describe it

as chess played with swords.

The kids should all try it sometime.

Great for the body and mind!

So cool!

But all the slashing...

Sounds dangerous, doesn't it?

It's actually really safe,

They wear protective equipment

And special suits.

Xiang Xiang, be careful!

Zijie only gets a couple of

bruises occasionally.

They wear those 'breeches', right?

Yes exactly.

As long as we wear our suits and breeches,

it's alright.

Should we let Xiang Xiang try it?

It's so long

Let's think about it.

Wasn't there something about a fencer...

A few years back?

You're right!

Hey wasn't there a fencing incident

on the news before?

Do you remember?

Oh, you're talking about...

That one, many years ago

There was a...

High school student!

Yeah, a minor.

During a competition,

he took a broken blade

And k*lled someone!

Yes, somebody died!

It was huge news.

Did they say which

school the k*ller was from?

They never released his identity.

Who on earth could it be?

Excuse me.

Actually, fencing really isn't dangerous.

That kid did it on purpose.

He tried to pretend it was an accident.

He claimed that he was too

engrossed in the match,

Did not hear the referee call for halt,

And didn't realize his blade was broken.

A million excuses like that.

What was wrong with him?

I remember the articles were all so vague.

I guess because he was a minor.

I heard...

That he was sick.

You mean, one of those psychos?

Yeah.

We've got too many of them lately.

Yeah, like the one on the motorcycle,

The one with the machete.

I know, it's terrible.

These people should all be locked up,

And be given the death penalty.

Yeah!

If not, it's too dangerous!

I heard that the minor had been

cruel since he was a kid.

He was pure evil inside.

What about that time at the river?

What?

It's nothing.

Didn't he save a kid from drowning?

I told you that's not what happened.

These are all stories

I heard on the news.

Oh...

Oh, right.

Ai Ling.

Tell everyone about Zihan!

My older son, Zihan

Is studying medicine.

Oh!

So we'll have two doctors in the family!

My husband is a pediatrician.

Where is Zihan studying medicine?

He's studying at Johns

Hopkins, in the States.

That's a great school!

How was training today?

Really good.

When you were younger...

I always suspected that

your brother was hurting you.

I thought I was going to

lose you so many times.

Zijie.

Uncle Zhuang is really good to us.

He loves us.

He often asks me

If he can spend some time with you alone.

What do you think?

Sure.

Mother, let's eat.

Yeah, let's eat.

Any questions?

No.

Disperse.

Thank you Coach.

Free for a bout?

Yes.

Thank you.

You're not forcing me into action.

Sorry?

I said, you're not forcing me into action.

After the allez, you

have no strategy or plan.

You're just blindly rushing

forward or backward.

Sorry, do I know you?

Zijie.

What are you doing here?

You shouldn't be here.

Zijie, listen

Please leave.

I don't want to see anyone get hurt.

Zijie, that was an accident.

You know how often blades get broken.

I saw it with my own eyes.

The referee obviously

halted the match already.

I was in a defensive position,

Now that you fence too,

you should know it is so fast,

I didn't realize my blade was

broken until it was too late.

Those prosecutors and judges

were pressured by society

to indict me and sentence me to prison.

Nobody bothered to find out the truth.

I just want my old life back.

But you know how hard it is...

for ex-convicts to reintegrate.

And living in Taipei is so expensive.

I was heartbroken that

you never visited me all this time

I thought even if the whole

world didn't believe me,

At least you would.

Do you remember the shop

we went to when we were kids?

To play that poke-a-box game?

Each turn cost a dollar,

But we always sneaked one more.

I remember that time

you fell off your bike,

I carried you home.

I helped you apply medicine,

I bandanged your wounds.

I even taught you how to swim,

Because of that time at the river

When you almost drowned.

I know I'm seen as a criminal now.

I can understand if you want to

keep your distance from me.

But if one day you're willing...

I work at the supermarket on Xiwei Street

You can come visit.

But if you don't

Nice!

Remember to keep your arms straight.

Try it.

Nice! Good job!

Zijie, do you have a girlfriend?

No.

How about before?

No.

My friend has a daughter around your age,

I can introduce her to you

No need.

Alright.

Uncle Zhuang.

Yes?

My mother likes you very much, you know.

I really like her too.

Hope you don't mind.

I don't.

That's good.

Zijie.

My wife passed away because of cancer too.

It was very painful.

Growing up without a dad,

That must have been hard.

Actually, it wasn't so bad.

Mother always looked after me.

My...

My brother did too.

Zijie.

I care deeply for both you and your mother.

From now on, if you need anything...

Just say the word.

We're going to be a family.

Do you want to use the sauna?

I'm good.

Then I'll go ahead.

I'll be quick.

Zijie?

What is this?

Actually...

Actually I tried to visit you before,

But Mother didn't let me go.

Take good care of yourself.

En garde, pret, allez!

En garde, pret, allez!

Alright, ten minute break.

Then we'll continue.

What are you doing here?

Is that my uniform?

I think you remember,

I was a three-time National Champion.

Right?

Why are you here?

Listen

Sabre fencing is all about

your preparation move.

Once the allez is called,

Observe your opponent.

Then, try doing a feint.

Watch closely.

Do you understand?

Come, let's do it together.

Come on!

Go!

Very good!

This action will force your

opponent to attack prematurely.

But you're only feinting.

So,

What do you do next?

I... I parry his attack.

Come, try it.

Pret, allez!

Precisely! Very good.

Now you should be able to predict

What I will do next, right?

Let me rephrase it for you.

I lost the previous point

because you parried me, right?

So what would I try to do next?

You would...

You would

Try a longer attack?

That's a possibility.

Let's try it.

Pret, allez!

Zijie.

Didn't you already predict that

I would try a long attack.

Then why did you use the same move again?

You have to change

your strategy, understand?

Think about it.

Think.

Pret, allez!

Correct!

Very good, Zijie.

This is how each point

is connected to the last.

The key to sabre fencing is to

predict your opponent's moves,

Then adjust your strategy.

Got it?

Break's over, start training!

I should go.

Remember what I taught you.

En garde, pret, allez!

Attack, parry riposte, touch, point!

En garde, pret, allez!

Attack touch, point!

Attack, parry riposte, touch, point!

Attack, parry riposte, touch, point!

Attack touch, point!

5-0. End of match.

Let me help you.

That was great.

Thanks.

What kind of songs does she sing?

She sings English oldies.

Brenda Lee,

Paul Anka,

Neil Sedaka.

I've never heard of them.

Have you heard of Elephant Rose?

Their music is great.

Some people say they're only popular

Because they went "mainstream".

But I think their music is just

as good as before.

You said they're called...

Elephant Rose.

Elephant Rose.

Next stop, Xi Wei street.

Sorry!

Let me see.

You're so beautiful.

And I heard that...

You like me very much?

Is it true?

Alright stop it, that's enough.

What else did you guys talk about?

I wanted to introduce a girl to him,

But he didn't take the bait.

Zijie is still young.

Most guys his age already have girlfriends.

Have you ever wondered if he is...

You changed your watch?

Yeah.

I probably misplaced it.

Yeah.

You men are always so forgetful.

Alright.

I'll see you later.

Why did you help me?

You're my younger brother,

of course I should help you.

I...

I should go.

Wait!

When's your next training?

En garde. Pret, allez!

En garde. Pret, allez!

Attack touch, point!

Alright, take ten guys!

You call that an attack?

I'm more of a defensive fencer.

You're always attacking

at the same speed and tempo.

So your opponent knows exactly

when you'll land your attack.

So you need to learn...

how to vary your tempo and speed.

Understand?

Come.

Try it.

En garde.

Pret allez!

If your opponent pulls away,

You slow down.

Change your tempo.

The right of way is

still yours, regardless.

Come.

Go!

If your opponent pulls away again,

You slow down again.

Observe your opponent.

Once they fail to pull away in time,

You don't slow down anymore.

Now you speed up and attack.

Come.

Let's go!

Nice attack Zijie!

Alright, final point!

En garde. Pret, allez!

Attack touch, point!

Rotate groups!

Pret, allez!

Pret, allez!

Yeah!

Pret, allez!

Nice! Thought you'd go for the attack.

Thanks.

Pret, allez!

Are you okay?

How did this happen?

What happened?

Coach, my blade broke.

Aren't you supposed to be in breeches?

Didn't I already told you to wear breeches?

Why are so many of you not wearing them?

That's how you get injured,

go put them on right now!

Make sure everyone wears their breeches.

Yes Coach.

Bring the first aid kit over.

Put your breeches on.

Hurry up!

Coach, let me do it.

After you're done,

get him in his breeches.

Okay.

I'll go put them on now

We have to clean it first.

Or you'll get an infection.

This might hurt.

Sorry.

Pang, Wu, Zijie, Jing Hui,

Stay back after training.

Yes Coach!

Zijie and Jing Hui, did you hear me?

Yes Coach! Sorry.

What brings you here?

I...

I'll be competitng at the Championships.

Coach just announced the team.

I made it.

Well done!

Then we should...

Go celebrate!

Now?

Is this a g*y bar?

It is?

I didn't notice.

That guy Jing Hui...

Seems nice.

And kind of sweet.

When you got hurt,

He even helped you bandage your wound.

So what?

He's quite handsome

Don't you think?

He's alright.

His thighs are...

Quite nice.

Do you think I like him?

I think he likes you.

Who, Jing Hui?

No he doesn't.

No he doesn't.

He does not!

What!

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

Come, Zijie.

Cheers to getting on the team!

It was like...

we were both guessing

each other's next move.

That's normal.

He was trying to predict your next move,

And you were trying

to predict his next move.

Understand?

Didn't you say it wasn't a guessing game?

It's an educated guessing game.

Advanced sabre fencing

Is about hiding your true intentions

from your opponent.

That is the beauty of fencing.

Is that why you're so good at it.

Nobody knows what you're thinking.

So,

When are you asking Jing Hui out?

Brother.

I need to ask you a question.

Can you answer it honestly?

If you tell me the truth,

I promise it won't change anything.

Sure, ask away.

Seven years ago.

Did you k*ll that fencer on purpose?

I swear.

It really was an accident.

Zijie.

I didn't want that

tragedy to happen either.

I didn't want anyone to die because of me.

It really was an accident,

you have to believe me.

If you don't believe me

I truly don't know what I'd do.

Okay, let's stop talking

about these things.

So when are you going to

ask Jing Hui out on a date?

I don't think that's a good idea.

Why not?

You can ask him out to a movie,

Or...

To a concert.

What kind of music does he like?

He likes Elephant Rose.

Elephant Rose Elephant Rose

He has lousy taste.

Every time I...

Every time I listen to their music

My ears hurt.

But, Zijie.

You can't tell him that.

Tell him you think their music

is about existentialism.

Existentialism?

Their music

Uses heavy metal as a metaphor

for the pain of the human condition.

Just tell him that and you'll be fine.

They use heavy metal...

As a metaphor

For the pain of the human condition.

By the way,

When are the Championships?

September 22nd.

Is it still held in Taoyuan?

Yes.

Why?

You're my little brother,

of course I must be there.

Besides, how are you

going to win without me?

What do you mean.

That's broken!

Give it to me.Nope.

Give it to me.

Mother.

Get in!

Mother, I'm sorry.

Mother, I should've

told you earlier, I'm sorry.

I went looking for him.

It's not his fault.

Look, Mother,

I got onto the team.

Because of him!

He's been coaching me.

We were just out celebrating.

Did you steal the watch?

From tomorrow onwards,

No more fencing.

Tell your coach that you quit.

What about the Championships?

I don't care.

Mother.

Mother!

I'm going to keep seeing him.

What did you say?

I said

I'm going to keep seeing Brother.

And I'm going to continue fencing.

Mother.

What happened before was just an accident.

He didn't mean to, you have to believe him.

Zijie.

When will you wake up?

That was m*rder!

Why do you keep

insisting that he's like that?

He saved me from the river.

I was there at the river!

If he didn't see me,

He would've stood by and watched you drown!

How much money did you give him?

Can't you see he's just using you?

Brother.

So?

How bad was it?

She banned me from fencing

and from seeing you.

Is this goodbye then?

No.

I told her I was going to keep seeing you.

I told her that no matter what she says,

I still believe you.

We had a huge fight

last night because of this.

I'm sorry.

It's not your fault.

It's her fault.

Let's not worry about her.

The only thing that matters

is that you believe me.

Zijie, give me a moment.

Hello?

How have you been doing Miss Au?

Right.

I wasn't trying to deceive you.

I just forgot!

What happened?

Nothing, just some personal problems.

Tell me what happened.

I didn't tell them I changed my address.

So I've been given an official warning.

I bet it was Mother who told them, right?

I'll take care of it.

Don't worry.

I think we have to find a way

To convince Mother you're innocent.

What do you have in mind?

Here Zijie.

Eat more.

Here, Mother.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Ai Ling?

Hmm?

Why didn't you tell us your

oldest son was coming?

Oh, I wanted to give Mother a surprise,

So I only told Zijie I was coming back.

How are your studies at Johns Hopkins?

The professors and

students are all very nice.

Actually

My husband is a doctor too.

Really?

Yes, pediatrics.

Pediatrics?

Wow, pediatrics is tough!

It requires a lot of patience, doesn't it?

It's alright,

Just takes some practice.

So Zihan,

Which year are you in?

I'm in Year 4.

Any idea what you want to specialize in?

I've actually been considering

radiology.

You know, because of what

happened to our father.

He didn't receive the

best treatment back then.

Therefore,

I truly understand the pain that

cancer patients go through.

I hope I can do my part

To help more people.

I don't want them to have

the same regrets as me.

Woah.

Gosh, this is so...

This is so touching.

Ai Ling, what a sweet and

mature son you've raised.

I'm not that great.

I haven't seen my mother for so long.

Mother, it's been hard on you.

Actually I've been

thinking about moving back

This way I'll be closer

to Mother and Zijie,

And get to know my new family too.

You've all been so kind to us.

We're very happy to finally meet you too.

Yes, just tell us if you need anything.

Since we're all going to be family soon.

Zihan,

Are you planning to do your Masters

here when you move back?

Oh, actually I'm thinking

of applying to NTU.

NTU?

I'm from NTU!

But that was many years ago.

Oh! You're from NTU?

Zijie.

What?

What's wrong with him?

He's really scary.

Wow, so if I get into NTU,

Should I address you as my 'senior'?

My junior!

My senior!

Xiang Xiang what's wrong?

Come over here to Mummy.

What's wrong?

What's wrong?

What's wrong? Tell mom.

Xiang Xiang what's wrong?

I'm so sorry everyone.

He's acting so strange.

It's alright.

Xiang Xiang, good boy, don't cry.

Good boy, what's wrong?

Don't cry. Xiang Xiang.

Xiang Xiang didn't behave like that.

Take a deep breath.

Should we bring him out?

Take a deep breath. It's alright.

I'm so sorry everyone, we have to go.

Zijie and I have to

get to the fencing club.

Oh, let's do this again soon!

See you soon.

See you.

Come here.

It's okay now.

Xiang Xiang what's wrong?

It's okay now.

Xiang Xiang, It's okay now.

Zijie.

Zijie!

Zijie!

How long are you going to

keep lying to yourself?

You know what he is.

You want to go to a fencing club with him?

Please think it through.

What are you doing?

You're not parrying in time.

How can you win the Championships

with these reflexes?

Keep practicing.

What the hell is wrong with you?

I told you, if you don't

keep a safe distance,

You won't be able to parry properly.

Brother.

I'm going for a smoke, you keep training.

Hey.

Hey!

Are you free?

Wanna fence?

Did you hear me?

Hey!

Wanna fence?

Come on,

You still have your mask on.

Just a couple of points.

What's wrong?

It looks very serious!

Should we call an ambulance?

Put pressure on the wound!

Bring the first aid kit!

Breathe.

Someone call the ambulance, quick!

Put pressure on the wound!



Ah

You will be fine.

Take breath and calm down first.

What's going on?

Which class are you from?

Need help contacting your class teacher?

What's going on?

Could you tell me what happened?

I should have let him go to Pingtung.

What happened?

Did he hurt you?

How do I get him to leave?

Don't you worry about that.

I'll take care of him.

Mother.

I'm sorry.

I should've listened to you.

I don't want to fence anymore.

Thanks.

Are you excited?

Have you packed?

Remember to pack extra clothes...

I'm dropping out.

What?

I said, I'm dropping out.

You're not competing?

Why?

My brother got released from prison.

I only improved so much recently

Because he's been coaching me.

Which class are you from?

He's been sneaking into school to see me.

But my mother is going to take care of him.

Even though I know what he really is now.

I still...

I still don't know how

to stop caring about him,

Or loving him.

Aren't I stupid?

I really can't compete.

I'm sorry.

We can find someone to replace you.

Don't worry.

I better go back.

Get some rest.

Bye-bye.

Wait.

Are you free tonight?

I checked out Elephant Rose.

Oh, really?

What did you think?

I think...

I think their music is about

Existentialism.

They use...

They use heavy metal as a metaphor

for the pain of the human condition.

Yes. Exactly.

Ladies and gentlemen

Please welcome

Miss Tang Ai Ling.

That's your mother?

Yes.

My beloved,

My beautiful Ai Ling.

My precious darling.

These days I've spent with you,

Have been the happiest days of my life.

I've decided

To make you a promise.

Marry him!

Will you

Marry me?

Say yes! Say yes!

Yes.

My brother-in-law was just as bad.

When he proposed,

He sang "Sweet As Honey".

What does your sister do?

She's a lawyer.

A lawyer?

Actually, I want to

study law at university.

I want to study art.

You draw?

Yeah.

Can I see?

Do you have anything I can look at?

These are just rough sketches.

That's fine.

You drew this?

You draw so well!

Wait.

What is this?

Wait!

Who is that?

What?

That's me!

No it's not.

That's me!

No it's not!

If you want to draw me again,

You have to pay me.

How do I en garde in this condition!

For real though...

I was really looking forward to it.

Us competing together,

Cheering each other on.

It would've been great.

All the best then.

Bye-bye.

Hey!

Actually,

Has Coach picked a replacement yet?

Not yet.

Why?

If she's willing to have me back,

I'll compete.

Are you serious?

Do you want me there or not?

Zijie!

Do you have a moment?

Hurry.

Uncle Zhuang, what brings you here?

I came to wish you luck.

You'll be fine.

All the best!

Uncle Zhuang.

I'm the one who stole

your watch. I'm sorry.

I know.

I just don't know why you did it.

Zijie!

Uncle Zhuang, you know,

You know my mother loves you, right?

I love her too.

Then ask her to tell you

The truth about my brother.

Pret, allez!

Pret, allez!

You're here!

Ai Ling.

Let's head in.

What's wrong?

This morning,

I went to send Zije off.

Really?

That's lovely of you.

He told me

To ask you about Zihan.

What about Zihan?

Sweetheart.

You can tell me the truth.

No matter what,

It's not going to change my love for you.

Still nervous?

A little bit.

You?

I'm alright.

Don't be nervous,

you're fencing really well.

When we get back,

let's go for an Elephant Rose concert!

I have a confession to make.

Yes?

I don't really like Elephant Rose.

Me neither.

I was just trying to find something

to talk to you about.

I forgot my glove.

I'll catch up with you.

All the best!

You're fencing so well.

What are you doing here?

Did you forget?

I said I'd be here, remember?

Please leave.

Is this about what

happened at the fencing club?

I wanted to explain to you but you ran off.

I don't know why the blade broke like that!

Please, you have to believe me,

it was an accident.

An accident?

An accident, like what

happened seven years ago?

Tell me.

That time at the river when we were kids,

Were you trying to save me,

Or did you want me to drown?

Stop lying to me.

You're a m*rder*r.

Attack touch, point! 14-8!

It's okay Zijie, you can do it!

Pret, allez!

Parry riposte, touch, point!

15-8. End of match!

It's okay.

It's okay.

Zijie.

It's okay.

You still did great.

It's alright.

What's wrong?

My brother is here.

Your brother is here?

What is he doing here?

Should we tell someone?

Coach.

Good. Give me a moment.

Coach!

Coach, I need to tell you something.

Give me a moment.

Coach, listen to me,

I need to tell you...

I said give me a moment!

Come on! Come on!

Go.

Zijie, what happened?

What's wrong?

Zijie?

Zijie?

It's nothing.

Excuse me.

What?

Are you the guy who got injured

at Tianmu Fencing Club?

Yeah, what about it?

Are you alright?

It looked serious.

My thigh got cut.

All because of that b*stard.

Should've worn my damn breeches.

Hey! Come on, slow down.

You weren't wearing your breeches?

Hold on.

You weren't wearing your breeches?

Yes, so what?

So, was it an accident?

Final strike.

Was it an accident?

Slow down.

Was it an accident?

I guess? I don't know.

Hey!

Calm down!

Zijie?

Zijie!

Zijie come over here, quick!

Zijie!

Come out! Quick!

For your safety, everybody run!

m*rder!

Zijie!

Zijie!

Zijie!

Brother.

You know,

That time at the river when we were kids.

Whether you wanted to save me,

Or wanted me to drown.

It doesn't matter to me anymore.

Drop the weapon!

Zihan!

Pull your brother out!

Pull your brother out!

Zihan!

Pull your brother out!

Zihan

Pull your brother out!

Zihan

Pull your brother out!

Pull your brother out!

Zihan

Pull your brother out!