02x07 - No Apologies Necessary

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(male narrator) Previously on "The Real World"..

(David) I know it started out as a joke.

[screaming]

They dragged me across the floor!

Get out of here!

- That was a joke. - It was not funny!

You were on the floor, laughing.

His intentions were that I was gonna be naked.

(Jon) 'What would make you feel better?'

'Now that it's happened and you'

'can't go back and change it.'

That he is punished in some way

shape or form, no matter what it is.

We all decided amongst ourselves

that it was time for David to leave.

We don't want him here.

'Who knows what else he's gonna do next?'

(Dominic) This is the true story..

♪ True story.. ♪♪

(Tami) Of strangers..

(Jon) Picked to live in a house..

Damn!

(Beth) And have their lives taped..

(Aaron) Find out what happens..

(Irene) When people stop being polite..

(David) And start getting real..

"The Real World, California."

[indistinct chatter]

Tami, I need to talk to you, one on one.

Okay, okay, well..

Beth, can I talk to you by yourself, please?

They act like I'm "Freddy Krueger"

or something, what's going on here?

Why don't you just come down here

and talk to the three of us?

I don't want to do that..

...okay?

- Then there's nothing to say. - But we need--

Then we're not going to talk to you by ourselves.

Okay. Okay.

Irene, can I talk to you?

We all three feel the same way.

I didn't want to be alone with him

where he could influence me to change my decision.

First of all, I wanted to talk to you without the cameras.

I couldn't get that, now I want to talk to you

by yourself, I can't get that.

So either way, I look like the a*s.

That's 'cause you are.

Why is that necessary?

You are, David.

Can't you just come down here and listen

to what we have to say?

I heard what you had to say.

[instrumental music]

(David) I'm not gonna sit there by myself like

I'm a convicted criminal, 'cause I'm not.

I admit that I initiated the game

I want to apologize.

But I'm not gonna come down like that.

I think you need to talk them

because they think things are irreparable.

Yeah, they do think things are irreparable

but they want to do it on their terms.

I need to talk to Tami by herself.

I need to talk to Beth by herself.

And Irene doesn't know what's going on

I don't appreciate her

I'm gettin' very mad at her

for calling me names.

I just can't stand people

being condescending to me

it's one of my pet peeves.

Don't treat me like I'm a child.

(Aaron) Why don't you go talk to them and find out what they want?

Because if I do that, it's off balance.

They all want to talk to you.

Obviously it's not just gonna go away.

Okay.

Okay.

(Aaron) If I get 'em and bring 'em down here--

I'll come back, I'll come out, I'll come in here

on the couch and talk to 'em.

You know Tami, I really am sorry.

I didn't mean to disrespect you in any way

to me, it was a silly game.

I'm sitting here holding Beth.

Practically can't even breathe.

Saying Beth, "Don't move, cover me up

stay right here, don't move."

Jon throws the covers back on me so I can get up

and you pull them off again.

Yeah, to me that was playing.

Man, I wish that I was

able to play a tape right now.

You would see you guys laughing.

I swear before holy God!

Don't do--don't do that!

I swear to God!

(shrilling) Don't!

Stop!

It's just like the same thing

when Dominic was drunk

Beth, you ran back there

pulled the covers off of him

and called Tami in there

"Look at his underwear."

Come in here I want to show you something.

I'm serious. Come here. Look, look.

(Jon) She's gotta show it to Tami now.

Come here. Come here, look it--

(Aaron) Beth, what are you doing?

Bethany.

I swear to God, go away.

Ah!

Go away, I swear to God.

Will you leave me a..

[laughing]

Dominic, I never realized

how much hair you had on your chest.

If I'm wrong in that sense

then you guys are wrong in that sense, too.

Because I did not mean r*pe, disrespect--

But when somebody tells you to stop, David.

When somebody tells you to stop.

I was screaming at the top of my lungs.

I swear before holy God!

- Don't do-don't do that! - I mean..

I swear to God!

Don't!

Stop it!

This, you know what

for me, okay, you felt a major embarrassment

at the same time, I felt embarrassment.

'Cause to accuse somebody of r*pe

to use that word on somebody.

It's a horrible thing.

I am sorry.

I'm takin' full responsibility.

I'm takin' so much responsibility

if you guys want me to move out this house because of that

because you think I'm a dangerous person

and automatically you go and do the same thing

then I will leave this house, it's not a problem.

But I am not a perverted, dangerous, psycho-maniac-thing

and a r*pist, what you called me.

To call me, a young man like me

a r*pist, is a wrong thing to do.

When my boys were in here

and one of them tried to make sexual advances at you

I said, "Don't do that she's married."

And I came to you and I said..

I said, "Are they bothering you?"

And you said, "No, David" 'cause I respect you getting married.

- Didn't I tell that to you? - Yeah, that's fine.

It's what you did to them, though.

Okay! I pulled your clothes off.

I didn't mean anything by it. I'm sorry--

To me, I don't care

what anybody else has shared with you.

Any other situation

I don't care about it.

- It's irrelevant to me, okay? - Okay.

For me, what happened the other night

is over the top.

Over the limit, humiliating, embarrassing

and I do not appreciate it.

- Okay? - I agree.

For me, I feel unsafe

with you being here, okay?

- Okay. - Because if you did it once..

Playing, joking, 'cause you think it's funny

"Ha ha, I'm doing a joke it's funny."

It could happen again, and I don't want it to happen.

'My position stands.'

Now if you stay here, I will leave, okay ?

That means you would like for me to leave the house?

- That, that's how I feel. - That's how I feel, too.

- Okay. Okay. - That's how I feel. Okay.

'And I'm not talking for nobody else in here.'

Not one single person but Tami.

- Okay. - I wish, I want to apologize--

I am done with the meeting because--

You can't be done with meeting because you guys called it.

And you can't just walk out on something like this--

No, we called the meeting

and you did not want to come downstairs--

- I have a prior engagement. - I want to talk to you.

And apologize to you on a different level.

I accept your apology, David

my position still stands.

No problem, man, I'll leave right now.

That's cool.

Alright.

I gotta say this, though, if I gotta go..

Beth, you did the same thing to Dominic.

If I gotta go, you gotta go, too.

David brought up

the point of view that

what Beth and/or Tami had done to me

that if he had to leave then so should Beth.

You did the same thing to Dominic.

Beth came in the room

pulled the blanket over him

and stood there and looked at his boxers

and called Tami and them into the room.

Now, if they can do it

and, we play with them

you know, what did I do wrong?

He's gonna try and put the blame on somebody.

Ha! Beth, she's the easiest one.

- You know you're wrong. - I am not wrong.

You know you're wrong for calling me a r*pist.

When you went in there and did the exact same thing.

Right, I said you were a r*pist.

- How? - It was..

Because you took off her blanket!

Okay, okay, that's your definition?

You're guilty of the same thing.

- Fine. - Then we both should leave.

- Don't talk to me, David. - Beth.

- 'Beth.' - I have nothing to say to him.

- 'Hey, Beth!' - 'Beth?'

She knows she's wrong. She knows.

That's why she's walkin' away.

(Beth) I just went straight upstairs and said

"David, I'm not going to listen to you.

"you are not going to harass me.

There is no way you're gonna harass me again."

You see, you need, you have a right to talk to him, I think.

Whether or not, you should know--

- I don't want to talk to him. - I do.

Well, I don't wanna talk to you.

'I do.'

Well, I don't wanna talk to you.

Well, you're gonna have to leave the house.

I'm not gonna touch you, I'm not gonna get violent.

But I will follow you all over this house

until you speak to me.

I'm not gonna get violent, I'm not gonna raise my voice.

Look, I'm going in my room.

I am shutting the bathroom door.

'Hey, Beth.'

I felt she had no right

and David had every right.

He wanted to speak to her to speak to her one-on-one

and she wouldn't.

Please try and speak to her.

- At least, speak to her. - I can only ask her.

- Okay. - Okay.

It's me, Beth.

I can't believe he's turning this on me.

I gotta go, she's gotta go, man.

Beth?

Beth, are you in there? It's Jon.

Yeah.

Are y'all gonna talk to him ?

- No. - You're not?

I can't make her do something she doesn't wanna do.

Okay. Do you still feel the same?

Jon, I-I'm not gonna change.

- Okay. - Okay.

- Okay. - None of us are.

'Okay.'

[instrumental music]

Then the next time something goes down, for the cameras

and you guys are involved

it might not be sexual harassment

but it might be something.

You guys are not in the spotlight now.

We'll all be asked to leave, I guess.

That's a very valid point, David.

(Jon) Aaron thought that that was really harsh

to just throw somebody out on the street.

Dominic was more worried about David's career.

I felt like, something had to be done

and I didn't know if that was the right thing or not.

In the old days, I would be hung.

It's because a woman said "r*pe."

Not racially hung, just hung.

Just hung.

'Dominic, Aaron, and I are caught in position'

where we don't know what to do.

You don't have to do a thing.

'Don't do a thing?'

Okay.

I mean, it's really, it's hard for everybody.

You could state your opinions and feelings, that's fine.

I want you to know that I don't think for a second

that he would do anything.

That's fine. That's what you think.

- Yeah. - That's fine, that's fine.

- But you're not in his head. - No.

(Irene) 'You don't know what he thinks.'

No, I don't.

I think Irene felt unsafe because of her job.

She has certain liabilities, that if she is

you know, in the presence of a crime

it's her responsibility to stop it.

In the penal code, it's ". status"

which means that, if you carry a g*n, umm..

You are a police officer hours a day.

I don't want to have to come back home

and find out something happened.

(Dominic) 'Okay, I understand that..'

And when I found out what he did to you that day..

I'm telling you, man.

- I'm telling you. - Back off, dude.

(David) When I got angry at Jon

I definitely crossed the line

when I choked him.

You know, I crossed the line.

(Dominic) I guess several incidents have happened that

I'm not aware of also.

[overlapping conversation]

All I'm telling you is, if the phone rings

have common courtesy to say--

- I do have common courtesy! - Okay.

- Hold on one second. - She jumped on my fruit.

David took it too far and..

(Jon) You know, said something really cruel to Beth.

And just, she was almost on the verge of tears.

That's why you got them big-a*s, hairy-a*s pimples on your face,

'cause you deserve 'em!

You're like a ♪♪♪ walking spider in this damn house.

Leave the house. Don't shut the door on my face.

Excuse me, I have to go to the airport to pick up my sister.

Excuse me.

(Aaron) Once it was explained to me that it wasn't just one incident

that it was, it was the culmination of the incidents

then I had a better understanding

and I felt, okay, that makes more sense.

I really thought there

could have been another way to work it out.

But it had to be between David and girls.

I would like this to be resolved

in a meeting with everybody who was affected.

First of all, I would like to do it personally

one on one with Tami.

'I would like to talk to Beth.'

'I want to reassure that to Irene'

'because, you know, she was in the middle.'

And make sure she feels safe.

And let them explain where they coming from

and let me tell them where I'm coming from.

And just let it go.

Beth?

Where's Beth?

(Beth) 'I don't wanna talk to you.'

Why don't you just stop harassin' me?

I'm not harassing you, I just need to talk to you--

- You are harassing me. - No.

(Irene) She doesn't wanna talk to you.

(Dominic) Hey Beth, Beth please.

You've gotta at least speak to David, come on.

You're not gonna harass me

and you're not gonna turn things around on me.

Okay?

So, quit harassing--

Is that what you're afraid of?

Is that what you're afraid of?

Huh ? Being responsible for the same thing--

- David, David, don't do that-- - I'm not touching her.

- Leave me alone. - Don't do that, David.

- Leave me alone. - Please, this is bad--

You harass me every day.

- I'm not harassing you. - Get out of here.

(Dominic) 'David, David, David, David--'

You degrade me and harass me every day.

You will not turn this around on me, what you did to Tami.

You will not turn this around on me.

I'm not trying to, okay?

Yes you are, you're really reaching.

You take that r*pe thing back.

- Okay. - You take the r*pe thing back.

Fine, I take the r*pe thing back.

That was, it was the line on sexual battery, okay?

And you did the same thing I did.

I did not do the same thing you did.

You didn't go back there, pull the covers off

and look at his underwear?

I did not do the same thing you did.

- You did not go back there? - I did not do the same thing--

What did you do?

- That you did. - What did you do?

And there were other people there.

I don't think that, what

what happened the night when Dominic was drunk

was even remotely close to what happened with Tami.

Because, number one

Dominic wasn't being exposed

and number two, Dominic walks around

in his boxer shorts all the time.

And number three, Dominic even told me

that he didn't take any offense to it.

I wasn't there.

I don't know if Dominic was screaming

"No, no, no."

But, I know, uh, that Tami was.

If you don't leave I'll call the police for you to leave.

- We don't want you here-- - You can't harass me.

You are not going to turn this around on me--

- Call the police. - Okay.

No, I don't have to call the police.

Goodbye. Now leave, now.

- I live here too. - Leave! Leave!

(Beth) David, you will not harass me anymore--

Leave now, I said.

- You guys are so wrong. - Leave.

You guys are so, so wrong.

(Irene) I thought twice about it.

He did it to himself.

He's gonna have to make up for his own mistakes.

And, uh, I can't be held responsible for him.

I'm only responsible for myself.

(Jon) 'They told me before I, you know'

'before I agreed to do this they said'

"It's really gonna be hard

"emotionally and, this and that.

"You know, it's really gonna be a struggle, day in and day out."

and I was like, "I mean how hard can it be?"

You know?

I've met a lot of different people

and, we fight, but, I mean, we can

surely we can live together.

This can be resolved.

It ain't that serious.

It's not like I climbed up in the bed

while she was sleeping.

Can't we all just get along?

'What, did you just did a confessional?'

'Yeah.'

'Guess it'd be a stupid question to ask what you talked about.'

(David) I apologize to Tami

Tami, I'm sorry

I thought you guys were playing.

I don't feel guilty

I just don't want you to think I disrespect you.

Irene..

...I still think you're a nice person.

But you're jumping on the wrong person's side.

Dominic and Aaron, yo, I'm glad I got to know you.

Beth, I wish I never knew you.

I can't help, I don't hate anybody.

But now..

I still don't hate you.

[beeping]

Uh, can I come to your house tonight?

(woman over phone) 'Huh?'

Can I come to your house tonight?

'David?'

I need to come to your house tonight.

I got you something to eat.

Yeah, I'm gonna eat now.

(woman over phone) 'He screwed it up for himself.'

'Not you, sweetheart.'

You know I don't like to hurt people.

(Jon) 'You're really, you're-you're for good?'

'You're not coming back?'

I don't know.

I don't want to hurt anybody's career.

I wouldn't do this if I didn't feel it.

Yeah, I'll call you, mom.

♪ Who do you need ♪

♪ Who do you love ♪

♪ When you come undone? ♪♪

Can I keep the key to the house or you want me to leave it?

You know I said to him. That it's just, it's not..

You know, it..

I don't condone the things that David does.

I don't, I don't sit there and go, "That's okay."

I don't agree with it.

But at the same time when you're..

that's, that's his career.

Think about if you went back

to-to Kentucky and this was your..

you know, "Jon Brenan the r*pist."

Was the, no, just, you know..

That's why I don't take people's clothes off.

Okay, fine, Jon, what if something

what if something that you didn't do

literally, literally didn't do.

What if, one day you're getting out of the shower

and you bumped into Beth

she was in her robe

And she says, "You were trying to r*pe me?"

I'll tell you right now

it wasn't even compared to r*pe.

I mean, it's ridiculous

to even bring that word up.

Well that's the word that was used

It was used and then, she took it back.

I think the whole incident about

you know, the word "r*pe" coming out.

It came out of Beth's mouth.

Uh, was kind of a misunderstanding.

I'm not sayin' that she's overreacting

I mean, I-I can't, you know, I have no means of validating

Or-or trying to quantify her feelings.

What?

- Okay? - What's funny.

It's just somethin' struck me funny.

What?

Quantifying and validating.

I was more humiliated and embarrassed

but I didn't feel like it was a r*pe situation.

I just have a hard time sitting back

and watch someone's career just get flushed down the toilet

and sitting back with a smile.

I've gotta take the girls at their word

when they said they were scared and weren't sure

where his joking around..

...would stop.

But, Aaron..

...he pulled down his pants

in front of them and the cameras.

It's the second time he did it, the first time there was no--

The first time no one was around.

The girls weren't around. It was just me and the cameraman.

The second time he did it in front of two girls.

And girls are threatened by that sometimes.

What he did to me was really messed up.

I mean, there's no explanation

there's no apology that, that can

make everything okay with me about that.

But then I said

"Is it worth him..

losing everything he's worked so hard for?"

And I fought with that and I fought with that

and I just..

I was really stressed out.

Majorly stressed out..

It was like the hardest thing for me to decide.

But then I thought about everything

that David has ever done

since he's been in the this house.

And, I had to stick with

with the decision that was made.

Like I said, I support their opinion

but I wish they would just think about it more.

(David) I know in my heart, I'm not a dangerous person.

People around me know I'm not a dangerous person.

You gotta watch what you say

and watch what you do and use your head.

And that's what I've learned.

It took a nice spanking

a nice a*s-whoopin' for me to learn that.

But I've learned that.

So, I'm a wiser person now.

It was a harsh thing, telling him to leave.

But, I mean, I think

and I said that I didn't know

if it was the right decision to do or not.

But it turns out that now I think it probably was.

(David) 'I'm going on road tour.'

Three months, uh, hittin' comedy clubs around

startin' my birthday, April rd

comedy's where I belong, it's what I do best.

It's where I find myself

it's where I learn about myself.

Ladies of the 's y'all act

like y'all don't need brothers no more, man.

But y'all do, cause' y'all got it goin' on now.

Y'all got ya own businesses, own cars.

You know, y'all don't take

the time out to say "Hi" anymore.

Y'all do "Hi drive-bys."

You know what I'm talkin' about, fellas? Y'all be on the street

"Hey baby, how you doin'?" "Hi"

[laughing]

(Aaron) I just think that, he just

he didn't realize until it was far too late

what he'd been doing and the effects of what he'd done.

He said that he's- he's definitely

learned a huge lesson from it

and that's the most important thing.

(Irene) I think this incident

with David has brought, uh, Beth

and Tami, and I a lot closer together.

(Tami) Definitely Beth and I are closer.

I mean, she was the one that helped me

the most through that situation.

(Beth) It's like a new beginning now.

And we're looking forward

to, uh, getting our new roommate.

(Dominic) Will things be a little smoother?

Quite possibly.

♪ Right now ♪♪

(female narrator) On the next "Real World.."

(Irene) Tonight is the night that

we get to pick our new roommate.

- Hi. - Hello.