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05x04 - The Book of Friendship

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives". Aired: September 6, 2024 – present.*
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In 2022, Utah influencer Taylor Frankie Paul went viral for revealing that she and her husband had been "soft-swinging" with other Mormon couples.

05x04 - The Book of Friendship

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[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ Woo ♪

[♪ singer vocalizing]

[Jen] Do you have time to talk?

I'm going into this conversation
with an open mind.

-I want to call truce and move past this.
-[Jessi] I have to pee so bad.

-[Mayci] I think I have to poop.
-Uh-oh!

[Jen] I just hope you know
that my intention

behind coming to New York
was so I could talk to you.

And first off, I just want to tell you

that I'm genuinely so happy for you.

Thank you.

-And so proud of you.
-[Whitney] Thank you.

-[♪ gentle music playing]
-Um, and so, yeah,

I want to say sorry for going on Live

and saying I wasn't rooting for you.

That was not right.

Someone asked me if I was rooting for you.

I felt like it was fake to say yes.

-Hm.
-[Jen] But really, I shouldn't have just,

I shouldn't have responded at all.

Yeah, I agree.

And so I'm sorry for that.

-Thank you.
-Genuinely.

I'm just trying to express just,

so I can just, like, move forward...

-Okay.
-...with everything.

I rewatched back everything,

and you said that I was a bad friend.

You're talking about season one.

-Yes.
-Like two years ago.

-Yes.
-[♪ dramatic music playing]

I think the thing that's hurt me
the most was

when Demi was bullying you
and I was there for you.

Whitney was the first person
that I got close to in the group.

And when we went to Park City,

I was doing what a good friend would do,

and I was defending her
and sticking up for her.

Demi, she needs some space right now.

-[Demi] No, I don't care.
-Yeah, she does.

Where was she last night
when she sh*t on me

when I was literally
getting attacked by everyone?

I don't think anyone saw this,

but on the way home, Whitney was,
like, screaming at Layla and I,

saying, like, "I don't want
to be a part of this group."

Like, just saying all of these things

and, like, "Why are you screaming at me?"

It just made me very confused,

and sometimes I do question
the beginning of our friendship

and if there were good motives.

When you came back to join MomTok,

to me, during that time,
it didn't feel genuine

because you then became
best friends with Demi

when she was bullying me.

So you were mad
because I was friends with Demi?

-Yes.
-Whenever I have conversations with Jen,

I feel like there's always an excuse.

"I did this because."

"This is why I was acting this way"
and da, da, da, da.

It's like, "I don't want
to hear it anymore."

Like, just say sorry and let's move on.

And so, for me, when you confronted me

with not congratulating you for Broadway,

it took me off guard because...

I felt like if you truly wanted
a congratulations from me,

I would've heard it from you first.

I don't know. My life was crazy.

When I saw you in person,
that's when I told you. And--

I know, but my life was crazy, too.

So then why just put that on me

and then start yelling at me?

You see how that, like,
seems disingenuine?

-Like...
-No, Jen, I don't.

We've lived different lives
in this relationship.

I'm just trying to understand you.

You-you don't... you don't need
to understand me.

I-I don't care for you
to understand me anymore.

I-I wanted to have a relationship.
I wanted to have a friendship.

I apologized to you.

[Whitney] [on voicemail] Hello. Um...

I just want to apologize
for overreacting and yelling.

So I'm going to say hi to you
when I see you at the studio

and wish you luck.

Um, but yeah, I just wanted to say sorry

for treating you that way.

You didn't respond, that's okay.

I didn't want things
to be awkward between us

with Dancing with the Stars.

-Yeah.
-And then instead of you respond--

I didn't respond
because it just, everything felt...

[♪ gentle, upbeat music playing]

[♪ singer vocalizing]

-...transactional.
-[Whitney] Hmm.

The timing just of everything was weird.

Jen, I don't think you--
I'm going to be honest with you,

I don't think you want
to understand my perspective.

I don't.

I think you want to hold on to yours,
and that's okay.

Let's set the record straight.

I genuinely, to God,

I don't remember being like,

[imitating giggling]

"You're going home."

[Whitney] [over phone]
You had your husband come--

Okay, but you, you wanted
to meet up with me

the day after I got eliminated.

When I also just saw you start laughing

when I got eliminated
in front of millions of people,

I was in a very... bad place.

That was not the intention.

Of course, I'm happy
that my name isn't called

because I want to stay.

I would've been relieved if it was anyone.

But I was a little happy
it was Jen. [chuckling]

[Jen] I was hoping that you'd be able
to hear out my perspective,

which I don't think you can get there,
and that's okay.

-No. Hold on now.
-And--

Don't speak for me.

-I'm-I'm-I'm lis--
-I'm not, I'm not speaking for you.

You just said, you said
you don't think I can get there.

-I know but--
-I'm listening

to your perspective right now.

You're not. You haven't this whole time.

I'm here right now.
Tell me everything you want me to know.

I've already told you everything, though.

This is why I'm so confused.

I just said,
"Tell me all of your perspective."

You said you've told me everything,
but is there more?

[Jen] No, there...
I already told you everything.

Okay, but then you just said
you don't want to hear it. I was...

I do want to hear it.

[laughing] Is there more
to your perspective?

-I...
-No, there's not.

-There's not.
-[Whitney] Okay.

-I shared everything, so...
-[Whitney] Okay,

so I've heard everything?

-Yeah.
-Okay.

I was hoping maybe
she'd want to hear a little bit

of where I'm coming from
and why I held resentment,

but we're not going to get there.

To be honest, I think

who Whitney has been
the past couple of months

has just been for show.

And I'm realizing, like,
I don't think she's changed.

We're moving on.

♪♪

[♪ dramatic music playing]

♪ Come ye saint and come ye sinners ♪

♪ Hallelujah ♪

♪ Listen up ♪

♪ I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪

♪ I've got everything
you could ever want ♪

♪ Try me and you'll see
I'll bring you to your knees ♪

♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

-♪ Shh ♪
-♪ Temptation ♪

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[speaker 1]
Is this ABC's worst nightmare?

[speaker 2] ...could result in
millions of dollars of damages.

[speaker 3] This is a huge, huge deal.

-[♪ gentle music playing]
-[Mayci] You good?

It was fine. Jen's just a really
hard person to communicate with.

She's been in this, like,
victim mentality since Vegas.

It's very confusing.

Doing that, that was hard
for me to do, to share my truth.

And it was the intention
of not wanting to run away

and just move past everything.

Um, but we couldn't get there,
and that's okay.

Sometimes I think that Jen has difficulty

expressing her feelings

and communicating them
in a very clear way.

And I think for personality types
like Whitney,

who is a little bit more,
like, concise and direct,

that's difficult to receive.

So it just seems like they
just were not understanding

what one another was trying to get across.

We can also separate friendships
and relationships

and know that, like, we support you.

Like, we love you.
We want what's best for you.

-Best for you, yeah.
-And we want to continue our friendship.

But it's also, like, that doesn't mean

that we obviously have to, like,
turn our backs on Whitney.

Will you guys come do a TikTok, all of us?

-Yes.
-Oh, yeah.

[Layla] Love you, Jen. Proud of you.
But we want you in the TikTok, so...

I don't want to be in it.
I don't want to be in it.

-[Layla] No, come here. Are you sure?
-[Miranda] Are you sure?

I just need time.

I'm not going to be fake anymore.

And I'm also not going to be a pushover.

I'm not going to be a people pleaser.

-I'm not doing that anymore.
-[group cheering and laughing]

I mean, just a couple months ago,

the whole group hated Whitney,
and then she's on Broadway,

and then everyone wants
to make a TikTok with her,

and now we're besties.

The girls can believe her act.

Clearly, she's an amazing actress,

but I'm not falling for it.

So... sorry.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

Oh, sorry. That was me, sorry.

[group laughing]

-My earring got caught.
-I knew it would be you, Jessi.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[♪ music distorts]

-[Mayci] That's you.
-[Whitney] Okay.

She's just doing one by herself?

That's so awkward. [laughs]

-Did you miss this because we did--
-Yeah.

We all know that if we're seen as a group

and someone's missing,
it's immediately, "Where's this person?

What's happening? What's going on?"

And Jen knows that,
so it feels like a statement,

and it feels like
she just doesn't want Whitney

to have the satisfaction
of being in a video together.

[Whitney sighs]

-Good times.
-Great times.

♪ I think tonight
I'm crashin' on the couch ♪

♪ I'm feelin' my emotions
drownin' in mimosas ♪

♪ I want to feel alive ♪

♪ I'm soaking up that kind ♪

♪ You want to feel that vibe ♪

♪ I want to feel alive ♪

[Ben] Wow.

[sighs] Nothing like a nice view
of New Jersey, huh?

We're not in New Jersey.

Well, that's New Jersey.

-Really?
-Yeah, over the water.

-Oh, I didn't know that.
-[Ben] Yeah.

Yeah, I guess I'll see you, like...

-[Taylor] Never?
-Maybe never, yeah.

-[Taylor chuckles]
-Every time we leave, it's like...

-[Taylor] Maybe--
-...this could be it.

-Yeah, it's true.
-[Ben laughing]

Yeah, this could be it.

-[Ben] Yeah.
-What would you say to me?

Okay, this is our last time hanging out.
What if it was?

What would you say?

I'd probably just try
to give you a nice kiss

and be like, "This was nice."

-[Taylor] That's it?
-[Ben] [sighs] Yeah.

Your hat and your scarf.

For sure.

I'm repping my team, Capitals.

Maybe we can go to a game sometime, maybe.

Maybe.

If we could ever be
seen together in public.

[♪ gentle music playing]

If we ever make it to that point.

Maybe in, like, six months.

I don't know, ever, you know? [sighs]

I just kind of go with the flow.

[Ben] Go with the flow kind of girl?

I guess what is it...

you're wanting, I guess?

[Ben] I see a lot
of potential, like, with us.

Just with us as two people.

And I don't know,

like I could see you being,
like, my girlfriend eventually,

and more than that one day.

-You know?
-Mm-hmm.

Like, that's-that's what I want.

It's really weird this mind game I play,
because I'm like,

here I have, like, this guy

that I do know genuinely likes me.

And I think Ben is a great guy
for so many different reasons.

He's sincere, I can feel it.
It's like a soul tie in a way.

I'm dating you to be my wife.
Like, I'm looking for a wife.

Mm-hmm.

But things are moving so fast,
and I realized,

yeah, maybe I am not in a place
of being completely healed.

So I'm sabotaging it all.

I'm sabotaging anything I can,
because I'm like,

I don't even want to feel happiness

because when I do for a little bit,
it's like...

[♪ gentle music playing]

[Taylor] It hurts, I guess, when
it's taken away.

What if we just, like, were best friends?

I think I like you too much
to ever be, like, best friends with you.

Okay, fair.

-[Ben] So--
-That makes sense.

-But yeah.
-[Taylor] Hm.

What do you want, nothing?

No, not nothing.

I'm more ready, I think,
to begin a relationship

-than you are.
-Than me.

-I think that probably is--
-[Ben] That's the disconnect.

Not that I'm not ready.

It's more just, like,
am I in a phase of my life that I could?

'Cause I do feel like in this,
this reality right here is, like,

this is nice, this is a break.

This isn't real life yet.

What we have now is like doable, right?

'Cause it's phone calls,
it's here and there.

I don't really see you.
That's doable for me.

Mm-hmm.

If you were to, like, you know,

come be like my actual boyfriend in town,

that's something I don't know
if I could keep up with.

Hmm.

And that's not, like,
saying I don't want it

or I'm not in the same place as you.

It's more of I'm just being
realistic with myself.

You breaking up with me right now?

♪ All things come to an end ♪

Like, this is like...

♪ Lift my eyes, see the sun... ♪

...a lot, you know?

[Ben sighs]

♪ It's over now... ♪

[Ben] Guess I should head out soon.

[Taylor] You want me
to carry your backpack for you?

No, I'm good.

♪ This is where ♪

♪ The hard part begins ♪

Hmm.

♪ Just breathing... ♪

-[latch clicks]
-[Ben] Take care.

-Bye. Travel safe.
-[Ben] Yes, ma'am.

♪ Keep breathing ♪

♪ Feel all of it ♪

[door thuds]

[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ Down, down, down, down you go ♪

♪ Run, run, run out of time ♪

♪ Oh, no, no, no, no ♪

♪ That's what happens... ♪

♪ Oh, yeah ♪

♪ Down, down, down... ♪

[Jen] Did you see Mama?

♪ That's what happens when you... ♪

How was that?

Both finally down. [sighs]

I can tell you're tired.

I can't remember
the last time I was this tired.

[sighs] That was a long couple days.

Yeah. Thank you for doing that.

Zac has been holding down the fort
since I've been gone in New York,

and I definitely think it's time
for him to have a much-needed break.

Happy you're home, though. [sighs]

[Jen] Yeah, I'm happy I'm home now, too.

I was over it by the end of it,
to be honest.

Was the trip fun at all or what?

[Jen] No, it was definitely a lot of fun.

I went to Whitney's Broadway show,

and, honestly, it was amazing.

It really was. Like, she did unreal.

And I was able to have
a conversation with her

and... apologize for,

for where I went wrong and move forward.

I, unfortunately, didn't get
that apology on her end.

Mm-hmm.

[Jen] Now that I'm back in Utah,

I'm definitely looking
for a sense of community,

and I don't know if MomTok
feels like that to me right now.

I don't know if anything's
actually genuine anymore.

I don't know if it's only for online

and what the public sees,
or if it's real life.

I-I don't know what's real or not.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

Did you get a chance
to talk to Jen at the brunch?

Yeah. The conversation was
just absolutely ridiculous.

She was defensive, made no sense.

She would bring up stuff from the past,

and she's like, "And I'm still hurt."
I'm like...

-[Conner] Oh brother.
-For f*ck's sake, about what?

She just got frustrated,

and she's like,
"Why do you keep bringing up the past?"

And I told her,
"I keep bringing up the past

"because you want to know
why I couldn't be friends with you.

"You want to know
why I still hold resentment,

and it's because
you've never validated the past."

Yeah.

She brought up when I said
I didn't think she was a good friend

two f*cking years ago.

-After you'd already apologized for that?
-Yes.

-And she accepted the apology?
-Yes.

When she does something wrong,

she'll justify it

by what happened in Vegas
or what somebody else did.

I'm like, "I think you're missing
the point of growth."

I feel like everyone
in MomTok is moving forward,

going after these opportunities.

It's exciting. It's exhilarating.

But every single time I talk to Jen,

she's just stuck in the past.

I wish her the best,

but that's not somebody
I want to have in my life.

At the end of the conversation,
she was like,

"I guess you just don't want
to hear my perspective."

I said, "Please, tell me
all your perspective."

"I've told you all my perspective."

-Oh. [laughing]
-"What the f*ck?

Do you hear what you're saying?"

I'm proud of you for not being fake

and for sticking to your truth.

Thank you.

To be honest, I don't really care anymore.

And I owe it to myself
to stick up for myself.

[♪ gentle music playing]

[bell tolls]

Hi, guys.

Um, me and Mason are no longer together

and, um, it's still super fresh.

I'm probably going to be
kind of quiet on my social media

for the next little bit, um, just until

I can kind of get
over the bad part of this.

Um, but I love you guys

and thank you for all your support always.

[♪ gentle, upbeat music playing]

[knocking at door]

[door squeaks]

Hi, baby.

[Layla sobbing, sniffling]

[♪ gentle music playing]

[Miranda] Brought you a Swig,
Strawberry Breeze,

no frozen strawberries
to keep you hydrated

from all the tears.

[sniffling]

When me and Mason got back from New York,

I noticed a shift in him.

He was very cold to me
the whole travel day home.

[Miranda] There's nothing worse.

[Layla] And I definitely think
that the conversation

me and Mason had in New York

unfortunately did play a role
leading up to our breakup.

I feel like the girls get in your ear,

and sometimes I feel
a little like a b*tch,

'cause all of a sudden I'm not,
I don't ever buy anything,

is kind of what I'm made, made out to be.

I know. I feel like you're getting
defensive right now again.

It was not the first person to,

you know, dip out
on a relationship with me.

So I feel like I knew right away
what was going to happen.

[Miranda] What all ended up...going down?

He's like, "You did, like, nothing wrong.
Like, you're a perfect girlfriend.

You've done everything for me,"
blah, blah, blah.

"But, like, I just felt like
I was just Layla's boyfriend,

and I didn't have, like, a personality,
like, outside of that."

And I was like, "Okay, then,
like, let's work on that."

[Miranda] The reason that is,
though, is it's, like,

like, long story short,
he feels emasculated.

The only person that I want is him.

And the only person
that I want to talk to is him.

[sobbing]

And I have to stop myself
every five f*ck' seconds

from just wanting to call him
and tell him to come over.

I'm so sorry, Lay.

I'm just so over giving people
around me so much of me.

And every single time,
I'm just, I'm f*ck' broken,

and they just get to go on
their f*ck' merry way,

and I have to pick up the pieces myself
on my own

every single f*ck' time.

And that's why I didn't want
to f*cking let him in.

[♪ gentle music playing]

It's just hard 'cause I have really bad,
deep-rooted abandonment issues.

A lot of it stems from my childhood

and going through divorce,
being told that I'm not enough.

Um, and with me and Mase,

he was the first time in a long time

that, like, I could actually
end up with somebody.

And... [sniffles] it makes me think

that there's something wrong with me

and that I'm the issue
because everyone always leaves.

This hurts more than, like, my divorce

because in every
single relationship I've been in,

I would mold myself into the person

that they wanted me to be.

And I feel like this is
the first relationship

that, like, I was like, "Okay, no,

"like, I'm not changing
any parts of myself.

Like, I'm going to be completely myself."

So I feel like he couldn't love me enough

to, like, get through,
like, the hard parts.

Layla, don't make yourself small.

It's quite the opposite.

You're too much in the best way.

He can't get there.

And he knows that,
and it makes him feel small.

I think most of the husbands
in DadTok have a hard time with it.

None of those men knew
when they married their wives

that they would make
more money than they do,

have more fame than they do,

be the breadwinners for their family.

Mason f*cking knew that,

and he still f*cking decided
to come after me.

-He f*cking knew.
-[Miranda] It's not fair.

And you can 100% be angry.

The Layla and Mason split

has put me in a lot
of uncomfortable situations

because Mason was
my brother-in-law for so long,

and we still have a good relationship.

But also, I have been trying
to show up for Layla

in the best way that I can.

And I hope that we can all
kind of rally around Layla

and show her some love
and help her feel better and heal.

You swear you'll let me know
if you need anything?

Pinky swear?

♪ Maybe we're just kids ♪

♪ Dreamin' big and kickin' it ♪

♪ Growing up, it never ends ♪

♪ Maybe we're forever just kids ♪

♪ Just kids... ♪

You're the love of my life.
Mwah!

[Penelope babbling]

Oh, my gosh, my skin is so dry.

I don't think I'm meant
to be in Utah, to be honest.

After New York, I'm definitely
starting to question

my placement in the group.

I'm trying not to think about it,

and I'm trying to just focus
on moving forward with my life,

with my job, my career, family.

And, yeah, I do feel anxious
to get started on all of that.

[Zac] For the last, like, three months,

I've been trying to take
a daily selfie with her.

That's cute.

-[chair scraping]
-Fastest seven months ever.

[Jen] We should, um, probably talk about

whether we still want to do,
like, a blessing or not.

[makeup clattering]

I feel like if we don't try to do it soon,

then she probably won't ever be blessed.

Yeah.

Um... I'm not...

Like, I guess I'm technically
not worthy right now.

Like, I couldn't give her the blessing,
and that would be weird.

Like, I wouldn't really feel comfortable
if anyone else gave her her baby blessing.

[Jen] In the Mormon church,

baby blessing is a time
for families to get together

to celebrate this baby being born

and being a member of the church.

And so it's kind of a big deal.

But traditionally,
the father blesses the baby

because only men carry the priesthood.

Like, whether we have
a blessing for Penny or not,

it doesn't change Penny's worth
in, like, the eyes of God.

It still is important,

and I still want her
to be raised in the church,

and I still want her to be taught,
like, morals and values

and all the things that,
like, I was taught.

But it's not like she goes to hell

because we didn't give her
a baby blessing.

Like, she's not going
to be held accountable

for us not doing a baby blessing.

Don't you feel like...
something's missing in our life?

Two days ago, you were
telling me you wanted to be

on Sports Illustrated: Swimsuit Edition,
and now you're like,

"I want you to get worthy
to bless our daughter."

And it's confusing.

I wanted you to get rid
of the toxic things

from the church.

[sighs] Yeah.

After season one,
there was a lot of judgment,

specifically from our community,

and we haven't gone to church
in the past year and a half,

but I do feel like I've lost

a sense of fulfillment and purpose.

And a part of me does want to,

you know, give the church
a second chance for Penny.

How I was raised,
a lot of people just did things

for the image of, like, looking good.

I'm not just going to fake it
to, like, make my parents happy

or please others, you know?

Yeah.

[exhales sharply]

-[♪ upbeat music playing]
-[singer vocalizing]

[inaudible]

-[knock on door]
-Come in.

-Hello?
-Hi.

How's it going?

[sighs] It's just going. How are you?

Good. Oh, I didn't
bring you a drink, sorry.

All good, I got my coffee.
Are you showing houses?

Yep. It's what I do.

Thought I'd show you a couple.

Mm.

Ooh!

-I love that house so much.
-[Liann] Yeah?

It's so freaking cute.

Well, we could always
make an offer and see.

-Yeah.
-How was New York?

It was good. It was actually really fun.

We hung out.

-They got us a penthouse.
-Oh, wow.

And then, I snuck Ben out there with me.

That's crazy.

And it was perfect 'cause then

he just hid out in the penthouse
while we did our thing.

Are you for real?

Oh, my gosh, yes.
Why do you always say that?

Because why would you do that?

Why would I not?

I'm just saying it's,
like, risky to bring him.

All he has to do is get mad at you
and post it all over,

and then it would be all over.

[Taylor] Yeah, but I know his
character. He wouldn't do that.

So, what, what's going on with Ben?

Mmm, I broke it off.

Why?

He wants to date.
He wants to be exclusive. I don't.

I'm too busy right now.
So I just told him that.

Wow, that's awesome. I agree.

And then I always have, like, Dakota
that's just back of the--

Like, they're just always like,
"We need our family together.

We'll do anything."
It's just like--

[Liann] He should have thought about that

way before he does all his crap.

He's just been trying
to be so nice lately.

And, like, ever since I got home,
he's been saying, "I'll do anything.

"Like, I don't care if you
even want me anymore.

I'm going to still be good.
I'm going to show up,"

all these things, and it's just, like,
all it does is, like,

one, mess with my head
that he's doing that.

And secondly, it's like,
I... it's too late.

The damage is done.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[Dakota] Oh, here.

[Zac] Yeah, will you show me
how this works?

Yeah, it's really simple.
There's an on and off.

And you just hit on.

And then when you want it
to go off, you hit off.

-Oh, okay, I got it.
-[Dakota chuckles]

Update me on the Taylor of everything.
What's going on?

Well, did you hear about
New York at all with her?

I did hear something.

-Yeah, every time she goes--
-Wait, Jen told me

that homie Ben showed up?

Yeah, he was there.

If she's ever with him,
it's like she will, like...

-There's, like, an energy.
-...radio silent.

-Like, just--
-Oh, to you?

Yeah, gone.

Do you guys, like,
text and talk on a daily basis?

Like, apart from Ever,
do you guys talk about, like, other stuff?

Just... Yeah, sometimes.

Wait, is your girlfriend cool
with that though or...

[Dakota] Let's take a picture.

-Those are cute.
-Those are cute.

Oh, dude, yeah. Oh, bro, I...
So she wasn't my girlfriend--

-[Zac] Wait, update me on everything.
-Yeah, yeah, dude.

I know, there's a lot
that actually happened

in a short period of time.

[Zac] Let me give you some soft toss
while we talk for a second.

[Dakota] So, I broke that off.

-[Zac] You broke that off?
-Yeah.

Does that have anything
to do with Taylor and, like...

-I mean--
-[Zac] Let me ask you a question.

Do you guys have hope that
you guys can ever get back together?

Like, do you, like, in your heart,

like, do you wish that that could happen?

I mean, obviously I wish, yeah.

Like, in a perfect world, yeah.

And he's not going to change.

So don't even think about
getting back with him

in any way other than that's Ever's dad.

Because you'll be miserable.

Is she kind of, like, in a sense,
like a drug to you?

Like, you know it's not good
for you, but you can't...

I mean, yeah. Am I a little addicted?

-Absolutely.
-[Zac chuckling]

Yeah, dude, like 100%.

Like, there's, there's no reason
for me to be doing what I'm doing,

but then at the same time,
there's still a deep love there.

I, I mean, I know nobody, like,
wants to ever see that,

-but, like, I-I...
-[Zac] I agree with that.

There just is still.
And, like, Taylor knows it, too.

And I think, I think that's why
it's really hard for Taylor.

It's, uh, it's crazy.

I think I'm just so angry.

It's like, how much does he have to do
for me to f*ck' let him go?

Dakota was the first time

that I truly was in love with someone.

Someone I wanted to marry
and be with forever.

And it literally has destroyed me
for f*ck' years now.

I want to get out of this
and never do it again

and learn this lesson.

It's just like something
in my brain that will not click,

and I need to figure it out,
and it really, really sucks.

I should already be over him,

-and it's like, I'm exhausted.
-No, it takes time.

It takes time, but I know
that you can do it.

And the reason why I know you can do it

is because I've done it
with your biological dad.

No, I know. I already know this.

It's just called
swallowing the pill of it.

[Liann] I know.

[♪ solemn music playing]

-[♪ upbeat music playing]
-[singer vocalizing]

[♪ upbeat music playing]

-[Mikayla] Hello!
-Yes, water would be great.

-[Mikayla] Hello. Hello.
-[Jessi] You look so cute.

Thank you.

Me, Mikayla, Jessi, and Layla
are grabbing brunch today.

Layla and Mason broke up,

so we just want to make sure
that Layla is doing okay

and just be there for her
during this time.

I did like Mason, though.

He was a nice guy,
but, like, I kind of knew this.

Obviously, we all know this deep down.

Like, we never thought he was here
for the right reasons. It's like...

Yeah. Well, the fact that he was on Cameo.

-That right there is like a--
-I didn't even realize he was.

[Jessi] Yes.

-He was on Cameo?
-[Jessi] Yes.

I mean, I already knew
there was a lot of red flags

when it came to the Mason/Layla situation,

but finding out that he was on Cameo

was the icing on the cake for me.

I don't really like Cameo in general.

Like, I think it's weird
to, like, pay people

to say hi to you.

I don't know.
I feel like that's a little weird.

[Mikayla and Jessi chuckling]

I'm like, why does no one listen to us?

We could have just prevented
this all from happening

from the beginning and it's weird!

It's almost like I was right
the whole time.

-[Jessi laughing]
-Huh?

I think he is just too quiet,
so we didn't see this side of him.

[Mikayla] I just can't believe
he was on a date

-not even 24 hours later.
-And Chase was trying to deny it.

Under Layla's most recent post,
Liz commented,

"My friends and I were
at Sapa as well last night

and saw him with a blonde chick."

One of the people
who was in the restaurant

is a girl I went to high school with.

She was like,
"It was definitely all four of them."

-Are we shocked?
-No!

-She should just block him.
-[Jessi] Yeah.

-Hi, hi.
-Hi, angel.

Hi, baby.

You look beautiful.

-[Layla] Do I?
-Hi.

We love you. I'm so sorry.

-I'll leave my husband for you, Lay.
-[Layla] I'm going to cry. I can't stop.

-I'll marry you.
-We'll all marry you.

Obviously, it's been
a very heavy week for me.

But this group has definitely
been through the wringer

when it comes to baby daddies

and ex-boyfriends and ex-husbands,
and all the things.

So I definitely feel like
I'm in good hands

when it comes to a support system.

-How are you?
-[Mikayla] Are you angry or sad today?

I feel like it's like
every single day is, like, different.

-[Mikayla] Yeah?
-Like, one day I'll wake up,

and I'm like so sad
and I, like, miss him so much.

And then I'm, like, I'm so mad at him.

-[Mayci] Yeah.
-[Jessi] It'll come in waves always.

-And it's like... Yeah.
-For a while.

We've texted, like, a couple times,
and he's like, "I miss you."

And he's like... Then he texts
me again, and he's like,

"Every time I think about,
think, or see you, I cry."

And this... Yeah, so I was like,

no shade toward, like, Taylor
and, like, Kate,

-and all the other people-- I'm not.
-You're not that girl.

I'm not. When I break up with someone,
like, we're breaking up.

-I don't--
-You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

-Like, it's not going to be the same way.
-Not sleeping with you

on the side and you can have
whatever you want.

Yeah. That was Saturday morning.

And then that was...

I mean, I guess you guys have seen it,

that was the same night that he went out.

Just the sentiment of, like,
going out with Chase and girls.

even if it wasn't a date, it's, like,

"Why are you ready
to do that a day later?"

-[Mikayla] It's the disrespect, yeah.
-He's so sad.

[Jessi] Knowing you'd be seen. Yeah.

[Layla] Now I'm getting flooded with DMs
from people saying they saw Mason out

on the town with a girl.

At the end of the day, he's single,

he can do whatever
the hell he wants to do.

It's the timing. We just barely broke up.

It's just a shitty feeling

that's making me second guess everything.

It just sucks. [sniffles]

It was like the middle of the night
'cause I haven't been sleeping good.

So it was like 3:00 a.m.,
and I, like, woke up,

and then I went to, like, my DMs,
and that's when they report.

-[gasps]
-Sent me a screenshot,

and she's like,
"Hey, just so you know about this,

like, I'm making a post
in the morning about it."

And immediately,
he started getting, like, hate,

and I was like, "I don't want that."

[Mayci] I know.

I need to just stop talking to him

and, like, go on no contact
and stuff, but...

Yeah, the best closure is moving on...

-Yeah.
-...and being more successful,

-which, I mean, got that one in the bag.
-[Jessi] Closure?

-You don't have to worry about that.
-[Mikayla] And then also...

[Mikayla] getting the ring back.

[Mayci] [laughing] Like, Mikayla!

[Layla] I got Mason
the Cartier ring for his birthday.

Tale as old as time,
I overbuy people gifts, I guess.

How much was that ring?

It's a Cartier, so it's like 2,000, yeah.

I don't think that Mason
was around for the money,

but my concern is the fact
that he supposedly knew

that I wasn't his person

but still proceeded
to let me take him to LA

and take him to New York
and buy him all these things.

And that's where I have the issue.

[Mayci]
I think we should get it back for you.

-No.
-You don't want it back?

-[Layla] I don't...
-You deserve that ring.

[Mayci chuckles]

-You know we're just petty b*tches.
-[Layla] I love you, b*tches.

[Mikayla] But it comes
from a place of love for you.

-[Jessi] It does.
-And the hate for men.

[Mayci] You haven't touched your food?

Dude, I'm, like, so nauseous.
I, like, can't.

Has, has Jen checked in on you?

Yeah, she texted me the day
I posted the first video.

-Okay.
-And she's like, "Do you need anything?

-Do you need help with your kids?"
-[Jessi] Okay, good.

Have you guys talked to Taylor at all?

-[Layla] Yeah.
-[Jessi] Good.

She relates a lot with, like...

Well, I bet, like, you feel the same,

like, going through public
relationship issues and a breakup.

[Jessi] I'm glad she checked in on you.

-Why?
-I was talking to Dakota, and he was like,

"She texted me today and was like,
are you in a relationship?"

And, "I broke up with Ben,"
which I haven't heard,

-but that's what she told him.
-[Mikayla] Yup. So did they hook up?

I wouldn't be surprised
because Dakota said,

"Oh, I have Taylor so f*cked up today."

-So you caught her on a bad day."
-Oh, congrats.

And I was like, "Oh, what is..."
I said, "I hate you both.

You guys are so toxic."

He was sending her videos
of them, like, f*cking.

So Dakota was at my house the other day.

Him and Jordan are trying to work through
their relationship issues

after Jordan wasn't invited
to his birthday party.

I am worried that the situation
with Taylor and Dakota

is getting much worse.

I think it's gross that
he can so openly be like,

"Oh, I have her so f*cked up right now.

Look at what I was sending her.
Look what she was sending me."

And it's just making me realize
we have no idea

how deep in this cycle
they still really are.

And he's like, "Don't you miss this?"

-And then she's coming back at him...
-She's like, "Yeah, I do."

Shocker. Dakota's doing
something weird again,

and Taylor's eating it up.

And Ben, poor Ben.

I just... I just can't keep up.

Why is it from this man
to this man to this man,

back to this man, back to this man?

I'm like,
"Come on, like, give us a break."

And that's what I want
to talk to her about,

is like you're sabotaging a good thing

because you're still
so obsessed with Dakota.

Why? I don't get the appeal there.

[Mayci] No one does.

I know that since Bachelorette
is around the corner,

I think that both Taylor
and Dakota are probably spiraling.

I also think that Taylor knows

that she's made some
poor decisions since she got home.

So I think she's probably a little worried
about what's to come.

And so I think that this behavior

they're both having is very destructive.

[bell tolls]

♪ Are you waiting for a miracle, oh ♪

♪ Are you waiting for a miracle, oh ♪

♪ Are you waiting for a miracle, oh ♪

♪ To come your way? ♪

♪ To come your way ♪

♪ To come your way ♪

♪ Woo-woo ♪

-[pan scraping]
-Oh, sh*t.

-[door thuds]
-Hi, babe.

-Hi!
-Back from church?

-[Jen] That's right.
-How was it?

-[kiss smacks]
-[Jen] It was actually really good.

-You look happy.
-Girl needed Jesus.

This morning, I went to church

for the first time
in a very, very long time.

And I ended up going to not
my old ward but a new ward.

And it was actually a great experience.

I know you... [sighs]

don't really feel comfortable with...
giving Penny a blessing,

but I just realized
after going to church today

that that's just something
that I want for her.

-Um... [clicks tongue]
-[bag rustling]

And so I hope you're not mad.

[♪ gentle, playful music playing]

You're going to hate me.

What do you mean? What happened?

I scheduled... an appointment

for you to talk with the bishop.

Are you joking right now?

Is that okay?

♪♪

If I wanted to go talk to the bishop,
I would've set that up.

I don't want to go talk to the bishop.

I don't know why you're so upset.

Wha... [sighs]

Imagine if I was like, "Hey, Bishop,

"my wife's not wearing her garments

and she's trying to go
on swimsuit magazines."

I'm not telling you to go to the bishop
to confess your sins.

Like, I'm not going--

So what am I going to meet with him for?

Because I really want this to happen.

It's really hard because
Zac wouldn't be able

to give Penny the blessing

because you have to be worthy
to hold the priesthood.

So I'm hoping meeting
with the bishop can kind of urge him

to make that push.

I'm not going to go sit down
and, like, justify my life choices

to some random guy I don't even know.

[huffs] That's okay, you don't have to go.

You don't have to talk to the bishop.

You don't have to do the baby blessing.

It feels to me like you feel bad

about, like, the things
you're doing in your life.

Like, you're feeling bad 'cause you
don't have a relationship with God.

And because of guilt,
you're like, "I'm going to..."

Like, you're hellbent on blessing Penny.

[Jen] I definitely think religion
is dividing Zac and I.

I want to have
this baby blessing for Penny,

and I would hate
to look back at this moment

and regret not doing it

if I had done it
for all the rest of my kids.

It's frustrating knowing
that he's not even willing

to hear my perspective.

You genuinely only care
about yourself, and I, I don't care.

Are you being serious right now?

Yes, I'm being serious.

All I've done is support you

in all your goals and dreams
for the last three years.

Yes, because you just do
the bare minimum. It's fine.

-It's-it's the, it's the bare minimum.
-Okay, I'm going to...

I'm going to step away.

You... Go, you can walk away. Go ahead.

♪♪

[♪ gentle music playing]

♪ I don't want to say ♪

♪ No, I don't want to say it... ♪

[exhales sharply]

♪ I'm not one for playing ♪

♪ I own my crimes ♪

♪ Lay me down, me down, me down... ♪

[footsteps clacking]

I'm sorry, I didn't...

I'm sorry, I-I-I didn't...

-[Zac sighs]
-I didn't mean to say that.

Babe, what the hell was that?

You just lost it at me.

Jen, you were the one
who had issues with the patriarchy

with some of the culture of the church,
and so I took a step away from that

to try to heal our marriage.

And now you're shaming me for that.

-I'm sorry. I--
-My entire life for the last three years

has been, like, evolved around you
and making you happy.

I gave up medical school.

I follow you around for all
of your batshit crazy dreams.

And then you're saying
I do the bare minimum.

Like, holy sh*t, I'm a badass dad,
and I'm a great husband.

And I've been the full stay-at-home dad.

You just went on Dancing with
the Stars for four months

where I was taking care of all three kids.

That's the part that frustrates me

is like you having to, like,
bring it up all the time.

It was Zac's decision
to step away from med school,

but I definitely feel like

he's starting to have a lot
of resentment towards me,

and I can see why the baby blessing
is also hard for him.

He, in a way, has lost a sense of control,

which is something
he used to have a lot of

in the beginning of our relationship.

Anything you've been like,
"Hey, this is super important to me,"

I've gotten on board with it.

You'll talk to the bishop?

Wha... [sighs] I mean, I don't
really want to go to the bishop,

but it isn't me not caring about you.

It isn't me that I don't love Penny.

I'm also trying to be real with myself.

Like, I'm not just going
to fake this to make you happy.

And I wouldn't think
you would want that either.

I'm just confused.

[♪ gentle, upbeat music playing]

I just think it's a little weird

that my best friend thinks
she needs other friends.

I just figured all eight
of my personalities

would be enough for her,
but I guess it's...

[♪ upbeat music continues]

[Mayci] Do you think Layla's
gonna be mad at us?

I'm like, "So, what I'm hearing is

-you want us to do it."
-[Jessi] You want us to do it.

So, Mayci, Jessi, and I are going
to get that Cartier ring back,

even though Layla said she didn't want it.

Nobody knows what they want.

They need me to tell them what they want.

And I know that future Layla
is going to want the ring,

and also I want it.

I haven't talked to Taylor...

-since New York.
-Yeah.

Do you guys think that her
and Dakota have slept together--

[Mikayla]
Yes, I do, and I don't f*cking care.

[Mayci] I guarantee they have
if she texted 'Be single'

[Mayci] and he's sending her
videos of them having sex.

That's just so stupid.

-I would text Ben.
-The way he's saving those

-while having a girlfriend, though.
-[Jessi] Gross, right?

And he told me, he goes,
"I guarantee I'm going

to sleep with her in the next two days."

He said, "The way we're talking right now

-and, like, the way she's acting..."
-He said that?

Yeah. And they were fighting,
but that's their foreplay.

I think that Taylor and Dakota's addiction
is a two-way street,

and I think they both
can't quit each other.

I think he is taking advantage of her

at a very vulnerable time,

but I also think that she loves it
and buys into it just as much.

And at this point,
it's just getting worse.

Like, I used to be so sympathetic
about it and be so...

Like, and I'm so--
I'm at the point where this is a joke.

Like, we are grown-a*s women and adults,

and this is how we're acting?

Well, it's affecting how she shows up
in every aspect of her life.

-Friendships, work.
-She can't really be a friend to anybody.

And it's like, she just says,
"I can't be a friend to anyone,"

but, like, we're all friends to you,

and, like, you're prioritizing men.

Men, men, men, men every time.

-Yeah.
-[Mayci] It's Ben.

-It's Dakota. It's--
-[horn beeps, wheels screeching]

-[gasps] Oh, my God.
-sh*t.

-I'm going to honk at him.
-Hello?

-Is he trying to come over?
-Hello, you dumbass.

Oh, my God!

See, this is what happens

when too much Taylor and Dakota
is in the mix.

You almost get in an accident.

But I'm glad that Taylor
at least agreed to come on the ride

to go get the ring from Mason.

Shows that she's kind of being
a team player

and is involved in something.

Hopefully, it can get her mind
off of just her and Dakota.

Get in, loser. We're going shopping.

-Beep beep.
-[Mikayla] For a new Cartier.

For a new Cartier.

[♪ playful, suspenseful music playing]

So we're just going to Chase's house,

'cause we know Chase is up here,
and he lives with Chase.

He said that he moved out
with roommates...

-[Mayci gasps]
-...this last weekend.

-Mason did? How do you know that?
-What, this weekend?

Because we were with him,
and he said he moved.

-Oh, in New York he said that?
-[Taylor] Yeah.

[Mikayla and Mayci]
How did we miss that?

-[Mayci] Damn it.
-How did we miss that?

I should call Chase and say,

"I'll unblock you
if you give me the address."

Iconic, Mikayla.

-That thirsty b*tch.
-She's so thirsty.

-Hold on.
-Okay, shush.

I've had Chase blocked
for, like, a couple years now.

I think he has his post notifications on
for everyone in MomTok

'cause he is always, like, the first one
in our comment sections.

And I think that's why
I blocked him in the first place

is 'cause it was annoying to have him
always in my comment sections.

And I don't want him on my page.

-[♪ upbeat music playing]
-[line ringing]

-[Chase] [on phone] Hi!
-Hi.

I have a proposition for you
if you want to be unblocked.

[Chase] This is, this is...

I feel like I need someone to pinch me.

-I mean, there's no way.
-I know, you're living out your fantasy.

[Chase] This is my dream, yeah.

-[Mikayla] Yeah, your dream date.
-[Chase chuckling]

Anyhow, um, we have
some stuff we have to drop off

at your brother's house,
and I heard he moved.

So send me his address,

and I'll just drop 'em off
on his front porch.

[Chase] Uh, I don't know.

I can meet you somewhere. I can...

Or you can drop 'em off,
I can send you my address.

[Mikayla] We're just going to leave it
on his porch, honestly.

We weren't going to talk to him.

[Chase] Okay, wha-what can I do
to be unblocked, though?

-What's this? What's--
-Just send me his address

to drop it off. That's all I needed.

[Chase] You'll unblock me for that?

For 24 hours. Forty-eight hours?

[Chase] Okay, I'll text you
his address right now.

Okay, you better not be playing games.

-Alright, sounds good.
-'Cause we know who plays it better.

-Okay, bye.
-[Chase chuckling]

I knew it!

-Crazy!
-[exclaiming]

[Jessi] Now that we got his address,

this is going to be the perfect time

to talk some sense
into Taylor about her love life

because it's just like,
"When is this going to end?"

We are exhausted.

So, like, Taylor, what happened with Ben?

-I just let him go.
-Why?

I'm too busy. I'm too exhausted.

-I can't... I'm spread thin.
-[Mikayla] You're exhausted

and you're busy 'cause
you're sleeping with Dakota.

No, I'm not.
There's been months of, like--

You didn't sleep with Dakota, huh?

You didn't sleep with Dakota
after breaking up with Ben?

-You're so full of sh*t.
-Taylor, you're lying!

[Mikayla] You can't even
look me in my eye right now.

-[Jessi] You're smiling.
-Because it's just like

you assume that no matter what.

It's never crazy to assume

that Taylor is sleeping with Dakota again.

It's not a crazy question.

Over and over and over.

[Zac] Heard you had
a long night last night.

[Layla] Ew, Taylor.

[Taylor] Why are you guys up already?

-Was she with Dakota last night again?
-Yes.

What the f*ck?

You don't have to say it, we know it.

Is that why you broke up with Ben,

is so that you don't
feel guilty doing this?

No, that's, that's what sucks

is actually that's what's going to like...

I need to stop this stupid cycle,
but, like, I also need to let him go.

I-I don't want a boyfriend at all.

How do you feel about him
breaking up with Emma?

[Taylor] I don't really...

He never really liked her enough.

I know, but you do care, right?

-No.
-[Jessi] But you say that,

but it's just ironic you both broke up

with these people on, like,
the same timeframe and then...

-And then slept together.
-[Jessi] Yeah.

He's a walking trigger to me
no matter what.

I think everyone in this world knows that.

[Jessi] I know that.

What I'm trying to understand is
you say he's your trigger,

but you continue to trigger yourself
every day with him.

-Absolutely.
-So I guess I'm like,

"Why do you keep doing that to yourself?"

[♪ upbeat music playing]

Exactly.

Dakota, I think, lives in his reality

and loves me that to his capacity
that he can love.

I don't want that love.

It's a vicious, vicious cycle,
but it's hard to get out of.

That is true.

I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know how to not.

My heart and my mind are not...

My mind is like, "f*ck you,
you're stupid, you're gross.

All these things, my mind is like,
"That's someone

I loved and wanted to be with."

And there's part of me
clearly that loves him.

So it's like they're not aligned.

You guys are both playing the same game.

But that's what bugs me
is you let him win.

Like, you think you're not
because he can never have you,

but he has you.

You're just screwing each other over.

And screwing each other.

It is going to take time,
but you have to put the effort in

to, like, get over someone and to move on
and, like, choose you.

I know, but it's been time.
It's been years.

-No, but she hasn't put the effort in.
-[Mikayla] Exactly.

She's never done that.

-Damn, Jessi. Harsh.
-But when are you going to, though?

You're not. Unless if you decide--

Well, I feel like I do try.
I just backtrack all the time.

But it takes it away, for sure.

If you thought you were going
to get in this car

and get enabled by us, you're not.

♪♪

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[Mayci] This is awkward.
Who's going to knock on the door?

-[Taylor] I will.
-It has to be all of us, right?

I'll try.

Taylor has no shame.

[Mikayla] I don't think Mason's
my biggest fan right now

because of me bringing up
the issues to them in New York.

Like, I think it's so great
that she has those qualities,

that she's so giving,

but it gets to a certain point
where I'm like,

it is too much if you're
getting taken advantage of.

So I don't know what I'm walking into,

-[knocking]
-...but we'll see.

We'll see how it goes.

-Hi. Is Mason home?
-[Taylor] Is Mason home?

[roommate] No, he's not here.

[roommate] Yeah, sorry.

[Jessi] We just had
a few things to drop off to him,

-so we were going to--
-Yeah.

[Mayci] Do you know when he gets back?

[roommate] He should
be back this afternoon.

Great. Perfect.

I'm so mad that Mason's not home right now

because we came all this way,
we got his address.

Okay, thank you anyways.

Doesn't matter, though.
We are going to get this ring back

if it's the last thing we do.

-[gasps] No f*ck' way.
-[Mikayla] Look what the cat dragged in.

[Taylor]
Are you mic'd? They can't hear you.

[Chase] No, no.

[Mikayla] No, that's why there's
that thing over his head.

[Mayci] That's why there's a boom.

We were a little fishy when it was like,

-"Oh, we're just dropping off"
-[Mikayla] But it's legit.

I, I will unblock you for 24 hours.

You want to come get a ring
that Layla got him for a present?

-It was expensive.
-Absolutely.

[Chase] Which didn't...
Is that what she wanted?

-[Jessi] She'll want it in a month or so.
-Yeah, Layla in one month will want it.

[Chase] I think it's ironic that
we got, like, the wardens

-of healthy relationships out here.
-[Mikayla] Yeah.

-I think we can all agree to that.
-[Jessi] I mean, them two, yeah.

-[Mikayla] We're great.
-You, for sure.

-I feel like you--
-[Taylor] Oh, I would never claim

to have a healthy relationship.

-[Mayci] No one has a perfect--
-I think if Layla wanted the ring,

she could get the ring really easy.

I think she does.
She just feels awkward about it.

[Taylor] Yeah, she wouldn't want
to say that out loud.

I think Layla's main question is,

was he in this for the wrong reasons?

-Yeah.
-That's what she wants to know.

[Chase] I love that
instead of just asking Mason...

-[Jessi] He's not here. He's not here.
-...we have, like, this...

-She hasn't--
-[Jessi] What do you think?

-Isn't she talking to him tonight?
-[Jessi] I don't think...

What? Why?

She said today she didn't
need closure, though.

No, that's great, but yeah...

-She's definitely going to see him.
-She said today, "I don't want closure."

Not everyone sees their exes
when they break up, Taylor.

Well, she does want to.

-Well, she shouldn't.
-[Taylor] Well, she wants to.

I think that Taylor
kind of projected her situation

with Dakota onto Layla
and Mason being like,

"Oh, well, they may get back together.
They may sleep together again."

But some people do decide
to close that chapter.

Not everyone has to go back to their ex.

She's going to tell you guys differently

-than what she actually feels.
-Yeah, like you.

-Yeah.
-[Mayci] Well, yeah, we know...

Because she doesn't want
to, like, admit it,

and it's like she's going
to tell me what she actually feels

'cause I'm not going to,
I'll be like, "I get it."

-No, we said we get it.
-Oh, no, I said that.

Well, I know, but you're like, "Not
everyone wants to see their ex, Taylor."

Yes, she does. She admitted it.

-Well, I know she does.
-[Chase] What happened is--

Because when you like someone,
you want to see them.

So I think it's really weird
for people to be like,

"Not everyone wants to see their ex."

-Well, if you love them...
-Some people have better self-control.

-Huh?
-That's what I mean.

Some people have better self-control...

Well, she's actually seeing him, so...

[Mayci] Well, we'll see if she does it.

-[all laughing]
-[Chase] It's like Lord of the Rings.

-Like, I don't...
-That's what...

[gasps] You guys are meant to be.

-She said the same thing.
-[Chase] Really?

-What? Oh, yeah, I said it to all of you.
-We just get each other.

You guys are on
the same wavelength. I'm impressed.

[Chase] We would be buddies, though.
I do think so.

Me and Mikayla. If she wasn't like...

[Mikayla] Have self-respect?

[Chase] If you just kind of wiped
your brain of how you think of me.

-[Mikayla] Like, if I enabled you?
-Well, he's been...

[Taylor] Haven't you been
recently telling all the girls

[Taylor] like, 'This is who I'm
seeing, and also them?'

Yeah, totally.

-No, that's a recent thing, though.
-I-I...

-True.
-[Taylor] Progress, right?

[Chase] True, true. That is recent.

[Mikayla] Did you tell Doug?

-Tell Doug?
-Taylor knows.

I am going to tell him.

You know all about my dating.

I'm not in a hurry to tell
a guy that's in it for rep.

Like, I'll have my lawyer call over
and tell him. How about that?

Taylor's defending Chase.

I think there's a lot
of projection going on here

because you should be telling Doug

that you cheated on him
and your engagement

and slept with Dakota the night that
you got back from The Bachelorette.

For someone that's so big on being honest

and being authentic
and, like, just saying the truth,

I'm like, "Then go tell him that you slept
with Dakota. It's a big deal."

-Back to the ring talk.
-I'll get the ring. I'll get the ring.

I can present you guys
with the ring potentially.

-[Mikayla] That would be great.
-Why are they talking tonight?

Like, do you know what it's about?

I literally had no idea they were.

Well, that's normal.
I mean, it's normal to backslide, but.

I also just think we need to be
a little bit more open-minded.

I know you guys are
in healthy relationships,

so it's really easy for you guys
to speak on things,

-but you don't--
-We said no one has

-a perfectly healthy relationship.
-[Chase] I don't even know that I would...

-Mikayla has a lot of issues. [laughing]
-Let's...

Yeah, have I ever said I've had a healthy,

-perfect relationship?
-You said that earlier today.

No, I didn't.

You said, "We're in happy relationships."
You just said that.

Happy? Yeah. Healthy? Definitely not.

So stop judging other people's, though.

-I'm not judging other people's.
-Yes, you are, when you're like,

"Well, we don't do this.
We don't do that."

Congrats.

-That doesn't make you perfect.
-I think you're projecting.

-'Cause you're mad. For what?
-How am I projecting?

Taylor just has this pent-up anger

for everything in her life
going on right now,

but she's letting out
her anger onto her friends,

and it kind of hurts, to be honest.

You're not perfect. Stop acting like it.

-No one's acting perfect.
-Yes, you are.

-When you say "What about Doug?"
-No, I'm not.

Bring up all my flaws.
I'll bring up yours then, too.

Go ahead.

-I've already been on TV...
-Are you perfect? Are you perfect?

-You're not.
-No, did I once say I was perfect?

-[Taylor] You're acting like it.
-No, I'm not.

-[Taylor] Yeah, you are.
-No, I'm not.

Yeah, when you make the jabs,
this and that and this,

about him, about me, it's like, about...

Not everyone's perfect like you. Sorry.

Just because you're triggered right now,
you do the same thing.

-Yes, I'm triggered.
-Hypocritical.

Because you're not perfect.

-[Mikayla] Agreed.
-[Jessi] I think they're just...

I think it's just being protective
of Layla in general.

-We all just want the best for her.
-I just want to go home.

-I just want to go home.
-Well, Taylor, you have--

-I wanna go home. Will you drive me home?
-[Chase] Yeah.

-I don't need to go with them.
-[Jessi] No, I'm not... Okay, Taylor.

Taylor's screaming at us
and saying all these horrible things.

It's like you're arguing
with a brick wall.

It's like nothing's getting through,

and it's honestly a slap
in the face to all of us

who have been there for her.

So I'm just over it.

-[Mayci] Taylor, you're just walking...
-I gotta get my purse.

...out on your friends for a man again.
It's, like, it's so frustrating.

It is.

Like, for real.

It's like if you had a problem
with what Mikayla's saying,

why don't you approach it in a better way?

Like a kinder way?
Can we have, like, a chill conversation?

[Mikayla]
No, 'cause she's not a real friend.

[Dakota] She made Chase
drive her home or some sh*t.

They both act like they trip
and fall and have sex.

They're like
Romeo and Juliet in the TikTok age.

[Taylor] That's kind of creepy.

[Dakota] I am obsessed.

[Taylor] I just loved him so much.

[Jessi] I think you know
what you need to do.

It's just really f*ck' hard
to get there.

You're clearly not happy
'cause look how miserable you are.

-Why are you called a b*tch all the time?
-I act like a b*tch?

You do.

[Mayci]
MomTok is in shambles right now.

It's really sad to see.

-[Mayci] Are you coming over to Jen's?
-[Taylor] No.

[Taylor] I'm not filming today.

I'm just dealing with Dakota.
He's f*ck' insane.

He f*ck' tried to ruin my life.

-Don't even f*ck' start with me.
-Well, it's like you guys--

[all shouting over each other]

You were going to have a healthy
conversation with her? Be for real.

-Be so f*ck' for real.
-You are rich. No.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ I got secrets, you got secrets ♪

♪ Keep it on the low ♪

♪ I got secrets, you got secrets ♪

♪ You don't need to know ♪

♪ Ain't nobody perfect,
we just doing what we want ♪

♪ I got secrets, you got secrets ♪

♪ Keep it on the low ♪

♪ Ain't nobody perfect,
we just doing what we want ♪

♪ I got secrets, you got secrets ♪

♪ You don't need to know ♪

♪ Ain't nobody perfect,
we just doing what we want ♪