05x05 - The Book of Destruction

[bunniefuu]

[♪ acoustic guitar music playing]

[Taylor] You're not perfect.
Stop acting like it.

[Mikayla] No one's acting perfect.

[Taylor]
Yes, you are. I want to go home.

-Will you drive me home?
-[Chase] Yeah.

-I don't need to go with them.
-[Jessi] No, I'm not... Okay, Taylor.

-[Mayci] Taylor, you're just walking...
-I gotta get my purse.

...out on your friends for a man again.

♪ Good Lord knows
just what we've done... ♪

Like a kinder way?
Can we have, like, a chill conversation?

[Mikayla]
No, because she's not a real friend.

♪♪

You act like you're better than everyone.
You're not. You're not.

I don't know how this, like,
mission to get the ring back

is ending up in us fighting with Taylor,

but I know that she's juggling
so much right now.

Bachelorette's coming out in a few weeks.

Her and Dakota's dynamic
behind the scenes,

but I've never seen Taylor this triggered.

It's like she's about to explode.

You're making jabs at me.

-[Mikayla] Okay.
-When you said, "What about Doug, Taylor?"

-[Mikayla] Okay.
-[Taylor yelling indistinctly]

-What else do you want to tell me?
-[Mikayla] Okay.

[Jessi] Taylor, I just want to explain,
and I'm not saying it's okay.

-What?
-[Jessi] Don't get mad at me.

-Don't do that.
-I'm asking you what?

I think you've made light of Doug,

so I thought she,
I think she thought it was okay.

That's my perspective.
I don't know if that's true.

I never made light of that today at all.

-That's a mistake I made.
-Yes.

I would never call you out
like a little jab like that.

[overlapping shouting]

[Mikayla] I was not trying to jab at you
at a sore spot, so I apologize.

It was not my intention
to trigger you or, like, make a jab.

It was just, like, I feel like what we do
in our group, we're making the jokes.

[♪ gentle music playing]

I don't know when
our show turned from being,

like, woman empowerment,
cute little Mormon wives

to, like, Jerry Springer on the street.

But it's, like, okay, am I going
to continue to give grace

and give sympathy
or am I going to finally set up

that boundary of like,
alright, no, I'm done.

I think you both think that
you have your lives together.

-Have you seen any--
-I don't think you would know, Taylor,

because you don't ever check in on us.

So how would you actually know?

[Mikayla] No one has sat here and said,

-"We're better than you, Taylor."
-[Taylor] But it's not just me.

I'm watching you do it to others.

[Mikayla] Okay, and guess what?
So does everyone.

You've made jabs of people before, too.
Is it your intention to--

I don't think I'm better
than anyone though.

Am I sitting here saying,
"Taylor, I'm better than you?"

-You might not... Say it out loud.
-[Mikayla] No.

Okay.

I think it's just Taylor's pain
talking right now.

We care about her and love her so much,

and we just want her to be happy.

So for her to think
all of a sudden we're, like,

turning against her,

it just sucks because she knows
that's not who we are.

You're always trying to run away,

and I think it's part
of the isolation in your healing.

Like, you isolate, you isolate,
and we're trying to pull you out of that.

And I think you want help. You say you do.

Let's work through these things then
as friends instead of running away.

I don't think you truly care
about the friendships,

and I don't think you put
the energy into it.

Okay, then why do you come
around me at all then?

Because we love you,

-and we care about you.
-That's why it's frustrating.

That's why it's so frustrating
when you treat us like sh*t.

-I don't think you understand that.
-When have I ever treated...

Why do I... How do I treat you like sh*t?

-[Mikayla] Right now.
-[Mayci] I think this is

a conversation for another time
when you're not upset.

[Taylor] Yeah, it is.
I'm trying to de-f*ck-mic.

Because I don't think we're gonna have
a productive conversation at this point.

We're not seeing eye to eye,
and that's okay.

I'm getting out of here. Let's leave.

-Taylor.
-Do you want me to just go home with it?

[Mayci] OK. She can just fall into
Chase's arms, that's fine.

Taylor doesn't think about anyone
but Taylor at the end of the day,

and it's just frustrating to have someone

so "self-aware" in her eyes
of what she's doing.

It makes it worse for me.

And, like, it's almost worse
when you're so self-aware

of your actions and the people
it's hurting,

yet you don't care to change anything.

Taylor Frankie Paul, everybody.

[Jessi] But that won't show. It will
just be us being the bad guys.

I don't give a sh*t, honestly.

[♪ suspenseful music playing]

[Taylor] [sighs] I'm never going
to hear the end of that ever.

Dude, I just, I know the sentiment,

but, like, Mikayla and Mayci
kind of always do that,

and it's a good goal to just not feel like

and act like you are better than anyone.

Oh, I'm so frustrated I could, like, cry.

[Jessi] Yeah, like, everything
we did with Bachelorette,

we put our real lives
on hold for a week to, like...

-Like, don't cry.
-[Mayci sniffles]

I'm just frustrated. [cries]

You've been there for her
more than anyone.

That's what I mean. It's like I feel like
she's never given sh*t about me.

-I know.
-And I just was like...

[Mikayla] That's what I'm saying.
I'm, like, when anyone,

you know how many times
we've sent you Taco Bell,

Crumbl Cookies,
message you every day.

She has a million followers,
I send her something.

She does, like, anything,
I send her something.

I'm there for her. I text her every week.
When has she ever done that for me?

And then you're just going
to turn your back like that

and act like I'm a bad friend.

-Like, it's so messed up. Like...
-[Jessi] It is messed up.

I feel like I do put my own mental health,
my own personal life, aside

time and time again to help Taylor
because I know that she's been

in a very tumultuous situation,
but at this point,

I just don't feel like
I can do this anymore.

-So annoyed.
-[Jessi] Yeah.

[Jessi] No, now this edit's going
to be like "Queen Taylor."

-[Mayci chuckles]
-No, I don't care.

I will go out and say
everything true the way it is.

I don't give a sh*t how the...

[Jessi] No, you're right.

[Jessi] Like, you've been such
a good, loyal friend for so long.

-It's just so frustrating.
-[Jessi] She doesn't want to hear it.

Like, we try to give her advice.
We try to, like, help.

She doesn't want to hear it.

I have a lot of understanding for Taylor

because of my relationship with Jordan.

The Utah standard and the Mormonism
of it all really puts you

into situations where the patriarchy
is the end-all, be-all.

The trauma of a relationship
like that can make you do

and say crazy things,
and it's hard to get out of that.

[sighs] Oh, I just...
Well, it added up for me today,

and I know I, like, overreacted,
but I'm like,

I'm sick of the little jabs
of, like, everyone's mistakes.

It's, like, we f*cking know.

[Chase]
It's not a joke if it's, like, a jab.

[Taylor] It is. It's not.

I'm like, there's truth
to your little joke here though...

-Yeah, that sh*t hurts.
-...and it's like--

And it was both of them bantering.

That's why I freaked out
because I'm like, okay, no.

They're like, this is all your projection,
your projection, your projection.

I'm like, I'm not the one f*cking
hating on everyone right now.

This is exactly what she was talking
to me the other day.

[Mayci] About being a b*tch and all that.

She's in a constant state
of being triggered,

and she doesn't want people in her life.

She pushes every single person away.

[Mikayla]
I'm just so f*cking annoyed of her

-and her...
-[Jessi] Yeah.

The attitude that she has that she can do

whatever the hell she wants
and treat people

however the hell she wants
because... whatever.

Oh, gosh. It's, like, literally like--

[Mikayla] It's not my f*cking problem.

Like, we're all going through enough sh*t

that we don't have to deal
with Taylor's on top of it.

[Jessi] It just feels like MomTok's
at a breaking point,

and something's got to give.

I just don't know where we go from here.

♪ Come ye saints and come ye sinners ♪

♪ Hallelujah ♪

♪ Listen up ♪

♪ I'm the one you've been dreaming of ♪

♪ I've got everything
you could ever want ♪

♪ Try me and you'll see
I'll bring you to your knees ♪

♪ Baby, you're gonna believe ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Shh ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

♪ Lead us not into temptation ♪

-♪ Shh ♪
-♪ Temptation ♪

[speaker 1]
Production has just been halted.

[speaker 2] I would love to be
a fly on the wall there.

[speaker 3]
Production being paused allegedly.

[speaker 4] This is wild.

♪ But I got a soul moving inside of me ♪

♪ Deep in these bones, I got a melody... ♪

We need to trim his nails. Good boy.

♪ Holding on to hope ♪

Oh, Layla just texted us and said,

"I removed Mason from my gym membership.
Who's proud of me?"

[scoffs]

Say, "Not till you get the damn..."
Is it a Cartier ring?

-I'm not bringing that up. [laughs]
-Do it.

Say, "I'm not as impressed
as getting the ring back."

I'm not saying that.

You need to say, "Good start,
now get the Cartier ring back."

I'm not saying that.

Mm.

After the fight with Taylor,
I'm trying to move forward.

I want to focus on the housewarming party

because this is a new beginning
for me and Jordan.

Jordan and I recently moved
into a new house.

I think it's kind of his way
of being, like,

look, we can have this amazing new life

and a house with no bad memories.

But, you know, just because
you have a new place

doesn't mean that the behaviors
don't follow you into them.

So I'm just kind of in limbo still.

I was just talking to Dakota.

I don't know how late they stayed up,

but, like, Taylor was,
like, bawling to him

on how hard her day was
and she can't get out of bed.

Oh, my God. [sighs]

They both act like they trip
and fall and have sex.

[Jessi] Oh, I know. I'm aware.

They're like Romeo and Juliet...

-[Jordan] I know.
-...in the TikTok age.

If you want to spice things up, dude...

[snaps fingers] get toxic for a month.

[Taylor] Why did you get
my initials tattooed on your lips?

That's kind of creepy.

[Dakota] I am obsessed.

Well, do you think you're going
to invite him to the housewarming?

-[Jordan] I already did.
-Oh, you did? So he's coming.

-Yeah.
-[Jessi] Oh.

Why are we even doing a housewarming?
No one likes each other. [laughs]

You know, Jordan and I
have been trying to make this work,

but I put the new house in my name
just because I don't know our future.

I just feel like there's still
a lot of, like, narcissism

and anger and, like, a lot
of our past is still with me.

And I think I fell out of love with him

because of the disrespect
and how I was treated,

and I don't know if I can get back there.

Do you think Taylor will actually come?

I mean, like, I'm not going to play the,
"Oh, if Dakota's going, I'm not."

Well, why? You're going
to f*ck him after the party.

-I... Exactly. I hate that.
-f*ck both of you.

Like, she is a good person.
She has a good heart.

She has that, but she just isn't
allowing it to shine through right now.

And we can't continue to let
that drain us. It's hard.

I think yesterday was expl*sive
and Taylor sent that text...

and I responded and I was like,
"Thank you for apologizing.

"Like, we all make mistakes.
Like, I've definitely done that.

Hopefully we can move forward."

And they didn't respond,
Mayci and Mikayla, at all.

I think, I think
you're a little too forgiving.

You guys and everyone
in the world has enabled Taylor.

You guys all, like--

I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say
we don't condone it,

but I will say there is
an element of us being terrified

that the audience will
always choose Taylor.

I'm terrified of Taylor.

I'm not scared of her as a person.

I'm scared of what her audience will do.

-[Jordan] That's what I'm saying.
-Because Queen Taylor,

she can do no wrong.

They don't live with us every single day.

They have not done this toxic cycle.

They have not held Taylor
crying in your arms,

but then she goes and does the same thing.

So I have to remember that.

And at the end of the day, like,
it still could be that way no matter what,

and I just have to be okay with it.

And I have to know
what kind of friend I've been.

I know I've been a good friend.

Yeah.

[Jessi] Even though I'm still frustrated
with Taylor's behavior,

I'm more inclined
to forgive her than Mayci

and Mikayla are at this moment.

But I'm not going to lie,
I'm really nervous about everyone

being under the same roof together

because we just had an expl*sive fight,

and I don't know what's going to happen.

[groans]

[dog whines]

♪ I got friends who run it hard ♪

♪ Backstreet oligarch ♪

♪ Hustle for a piece of it ♪

♪ Always got their teeth in it ♪

♪ That's what friends are for,
friends are for ♪

Hello! How are you? Hi!

-So good, how are you?
-What's up, girlie?

[Miranda] Ever since New York,

the way things played out
between Jen and Whitney,

she's been a little bit
more distant from the group.

Will you guys come do a TikTok, all of us?

Yes. We want you in this TikTok, so...

I don't want to be in it.
I don't want to...

[Miranda] No, come here. Are you sure?

-[Layla] Are you sure?
-[Miranda] Okay.

I just need time.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[♪ upbeat music playing faintly]

[Miranda] I want to check in on her
going into Jessi's housewarming party.

I don't think you have
to agree with everything

that someone does in order to
love and support them.

[Jen] Okay, this is the music studio.

[Miranda] Oh! Wait, love.

Part of the money I made
from Dancing with the Stars,

-I invested in all of this...
-Invested.

...which I've been waiting to do this
for a really, really long time.

The moments that I feel the happiest

are the moments when I'm creating.

Yeah, I grew up acting.
I grew up writing songs on the piano.

It was Dancing with the Stars
that made me realize,

well, if I can do this as a mom,

maybe I could pursue acting
or pursue producing music.

[♪ gentle piano music playing]

I kind of want to write music
about being a mom.

Yeah.

[Jen] ♪ I got my pink back, pink back ♪

♪ I want my pink back, pink back... ♪

When a flamingo gives birth,
it loses its color.

When the flamingo has gotten
through postpartum stages,

a flamingo will then, again, turn pink.

"Pink Back" kind of means
I've got my sparkle back.

I'm kind of bouncing back.

I think it's something that
I'm desperately looking for and wanting,

and that's kind of how
I came up with the idea.

♪ Pink back ♪

♪ She's got her pink back, pink back ♪

-That's all I've got.
-Cute.

That was like a little bit
of, like, the chorus.

No, I love. I love.

[producer] What do you think
of the song 'Pink Back?'

If anybody knows about getting
their pink back, it is Jen.

To tell you something, I did my,
um, my first self-tape audition.

Shut up! [laughs]

My acting agent has been
sending me a lot of auditions.

-Do you want to see my self-tape?
-[Miranda] Yes, I want to see it.

Like, I have the worst imposter syndrome.

I had to audition in a swimsuit.

This was when the babies
were finally down.

It was 3:00 in the morning to get...

-At 3:00?
-[Jen] Yeah. [laughing]

[Jen] [on video] Sounds like nobody
really wanted me around.

I cried for a week. And then...

I'm cringing so hard
watching myself. [laughs]

[Miranda] No, that was good.

I mean, how does Zac feel about it?

I don't know.

Honestly, I don't think
Zac understands me.

I think there's a part of Zac
that wants to be supportive

but him being a traditional man himself,

I do think it scares him
when I'm using my creativity.

I finally feel like myself again,
and I think to not feel the full support

of my husband really scares me.

So yeah,

don't get caught up in, like,
whether Zac would be down.

Doesn't matter.
What matters is that you're doing it

and that you're pursuing it anyway.

[♪ bright music playing]

♪ Wake up, wake up, wake up ♪

♪ Get your money up,
get your money up, ey ♪

♪ Wake up, wake up, wake up ♪

♪ Get your paper, get your paper, ey ♪

♪ Wake up, wake up, wake up ♪

♪ Get your money up,
get your money up, ey... ♪

-[Jessi] Wow.
-[Jordan] Yes.

[Jessi] This looks yummy.

-[Jordan] You know me.
-[Jessi] What?

-Just a house husband at work.
-Oh, yeah.

You got to earn your keep around here.

Something like that. [slurps]

-I need to get some water.
-Made you some French toast

because I figured that's something--

-[Jessi] Did you actually make that?
-[Jordan] From scratch.

[Jessi] You never make stuff like that.

-[Jordan] I don't like sugar.
-[sighs]

[Jessi] Okay. I get it, Jordan.

Oh, my gosh.

♪ Show up, show out ♪

♪ Blow up the volume
about to be a blowout sale ♪

♪ Somethin' they don't know about ♪

♪ Everything to the max,
that's how you go out ♪

♪ Run it, run it, run it... ♪

Honey, we're home.

Oh, not who I thought I was talking to.

-She's taking a dump.
-Oh, perfect.

Guys, this place is amazing.

-Welcome...
-How are you?

-...to my home.
-Ah, thank you. It's so beautiful.

To our home.

-[Jessi] Hello!
-Hi.

-Hey.
-What's up?

-You look so big. How are you?
-[overlapping chatter]

-[Dakota] Good. How are you doing?
-[Jessi] Good.

Hi!

-Can you say hi?
-Hi. Can I hold you?

[Jordan] Look at Dakota with the chain.

He's trying to look
presentable for Taylor.

What do you mean?
They were together four hours ago.

-[Mikayla] Oh, God bless.
-He's so big.

Then I got you this for you guys'
nightstand for you and Jordan.

[Jessi laughing]

Look at our housewarming gift from Dakota.

Yeah. Wow.

[overlapping chattering]

-Can I put this on my...
-For her nightstand.

[Mikayla] After the street fight,

I'm already on edge,
and I'm already annoyed

with the Taylor and Dakota situation.

So it's definitely going to take me

probably a full edible
to get through this.

[Jordan] This looks like a memorial.

[Dakota] Yeah, it does.
It looks like I passed away.

-[Mayci] Amen.
-[Mikayla] Amen.

-[Jessi] Hello. Come on in.
-[Zac] Hi.

It's been forever
since I've seen you guys.

-No, I know.
-[Jessi] How are you?

You look incredible.

I haven't seen some
of the girls since New York.

I just want to know where
everyone is at with Whitney.

She does care a lot.

[Mayci]
More than she cares to admit

-...sometimes, too.
-[Mikayla] Exactly.

[Jen] I do feel like Mayci,
Mikayla, and Jessi

have sided a lot with Whitney.

It's fine. It's fine. We'll move past it.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[Layla] Hello!

[Dakota] Hi, Layla.

[Jordan] Hello, Lay-lee.

It's so pretty, guys.

It's definitely hard to walk into

Jessi's housewarming party single.

I feel like I was very used to kind of
having Mason with me all the time.

It doesn't feel normal yet.

But it's really good
to have all the girls rallying behind me.

I feel like I wouldn't make it through
this breakup if it wasn't for them.

Why is there a picture of Dakota?

[Jessi] He brought it as a gift.

-Well, yeah.
-That's the worst gift ever.

[Dakota]
That's actually very debatable.

Um, you guys didn't text back, right?

No, we just wanted
to, like, go in not hot.

Yeah, I get it.

[Jen] Wait, I'm--
what are you guys talking about?

Oh, there was like
a little argument with Taylor, so...

-Oh, no.
-We're just dealing with the,

-the backlash of that.
-What happened?

She says, "Aside from filming,
I wanted to apologize for today.

"I know you guys mean well.

"I have more to say
but just want to wait for filming

"to acknowledge I'm aware
I handled today horribly,

and I'm sorry to all three of you."

I care about Taylor.

I love her, and I just want us
to, like, not fight or have any issues.

I do want a chance for us to talk it out,

and kind of figure out what's going on,

but you kind of never know with Taylor.

I made a comment about Doug,
and she got triggered.

It was crazy.

[chuckles]

[♪ dramatic music playing]

[Taylor] Today's gonna be so bad.

-[Miranda] Really?
-[Taylor] Probably.

[Miranda] Knock, knock.

Approaching Jessi's house,

the tension is already tangible.

Considering MomTok is feeling
very much like a sinking ship as it is,

this feels very much like
an iceberg moment.

-Hello.
-Hi, guys.

-Hello. Come on in.
-Hello.

-It's gorgeous.
-Thank you. How are you?

-Good. How are you?
-Good.

-House is stunning.
-[Jessi] Oh, you guys haven't been here.

[Miranda] This is cute.

[indistinct chatter]

[Taylor] I'm gonna go have a seat.

[sighs] Oh, Lordy.

[Mikayla] I can read Taylor like a book.

I know that she's very defensive
coming in here today already

because things are so awkward

and, like, obviously I'm not
super happy with Taylor.

I feel like I'm a little bit worried
it's going to be messy

and it's not going to be good.

[♪ intense music playing]

[♪ upbeat music playing]

I heard there was a little debacle

-at Mason's house the other day.
-[Miranda] Debacle?

-Mm.
-[Layla] What was that?

Nothing really.
I was just speaking my mind.

[Layla] Okay.

And I think my reaction was poor,

but other than that,
I think what I had, I stand by.

Interesting.

[Miranda] Have you spoken
to anyone over text even?

I reached out and I said,
I apologize for my reaction,

the way I acted, and that's true.

-I'll stand by that.
-[Layla] Did they reply?

Only Jessi.

[Layla] But nothing from Mikayla or Mayci?

[Taylor] No, and so that to me just
means they're waiting for camera.

[Taylor] And now
I don't give a sh*t, so...

[people chattering]

-[Taylor] This house is huge.
-I know.

-I know, it's been so good.
-[Layla] I want a tour, Jess.

-Oh, yeah, I got to show you guys around.
-[Layla] I wanna, like, look around.

♪♪

[Jessi] This is the bedroom.

[Mikayla] Wow.

[Mikayla] I brought you this sage...

What side does Jordan sleep on?

-I was just going to, like--
-Sage the left.

You're like, he actually sleeps
on the couch.

[Mayci] She's going to burn
the bed in that spot.

[Taylor]
Wait, Jessi, did you guys build this?

[Jessi] So this was an empty bonus room,

and I knew that closet downstairs
wasn't going to cut it.

So I was like,
we built all of this in three days.

[Miranda] This is literally my closet,
you guys. Like this?

[Taylor] Oh, my gosh,
you have another laundry.

[Layla] This is insane, Jess.

[Jessi] This was my reunion dress.
Remember, and I couldn't wear it?

It's very Bachelorette though.

After I picked it, I was like, oh,

Taylor should be wearing this.

[Mikayla] You're manifesting your future.

Oh, Mikayla.

I'm sorry. It's a joke.

It's not a joke.

[Jessi] Okay, fine.

The good thing is
if I did end up that way,

at least this house is
under my name, so...

I brought up divorce
to Jordan this morning

because we got in a huge argument.

It was over something so dumb,

but that's just how our arguments are.

And I had, like, this fight or flight,

and half the time I'm, like, flight.

I just want to get out of here.

But at the same time,
I also still don't know what I want to do.

God forbid it ever happened,
at least I'd be, like, covered.

[Miranda] Layla, but imagine
living here without a man.

[Jessi] No, I actually think
about that all the time.

Is it?

It would be really easy
to just kick him out.

-That's a little closet.
-I know. I know I should.

-The vibes in here would heal me.
-No, literally.

I'm like, honey, I feel...
Oh, my gosh, my skin.

[Miranda] I just needed rich b*tch
energy all along.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[Jacob] Did Jen have fun in New York?

[Zac] I think she had,
like, she enjoyed the show.

[Jacob] Oh, I was just curious.

I didn't see her in the TikToks
the girls were making.

Yeah, she wanted to go and support,

but she didn't want to,
like, portray that, like,

she has a friendship she doesn't.

And she's like, I don't think
she'll ever have

that friendship again with Whitney.

-[Jacob] Yeah.
-So I think she just didn't want to,

like, make fake TikTok.

Do you want to go look
at the pickleball court?

Yeah, sure.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

[Jen] I feel like we have a lot in common.

I feel like we both easily
isolate ourselves.

[Jen] And... genuinely, I think you're the
only one in the group that has a backbone.

[Jen] And I've said that
time and time again.

I want to hear your perspective on

everything that Whitney said
during New York.

She was just saying, like,

I've, like, apologized
to her over and over and she,

there's certain things
that she just can't get past.

Wait, sorry. She said she apologized?

-[Taylor] Yeah.
-Over and over?

Not that day but, like, back.

Like, I've apologized for things
I've done to her already.

Like, that's what she was saying.

Um, I don't know.

Obviously, I wasn't there,
but that's what she was like,

"No, I've already said sorry for this.
Let's move on."

She did apologize
for when she screamed at me,

but it was very disingenuine.

She hasn't apologized for any
of the other stuff in the past.

I feel like I've gotten
multiple versions of Whitney.

And the girls can believe her act,

but I'm not falling for it.

And it's come to a point

where I don't feel as valued
in the group anymore.

They don't even really want
to see my side.

Since the beginning of MomTok,

I've seen this pattern
time and time again.

I'm like, "Do you care more
about what the public thinks

than what you actually think?"

I don't know if I can trust
anyone in this group.

I agree.

Um, do you guys feel like
you need to talk to Taylor today?

-Yeah.
-I feel like--

We were gonna pull her away
from everyone because that's awkward.

[Jordan] You guys seem
to be doing fine right now.

Like, this is like you two.

Like, I haven't seen
you two together in...

[Dakota] Oh, you know what,
buddy, I haven't either.

Look at you.
Look at you with all that growth.

I've gotten sleep
the past, like, three nights.

Isn't it crazy what it'll do?

-Like...
-Hi.

-Hi.
-Can we pull you for a chat

upstairs really fast?

We'll make it really quick

-because we have to--
-What'd you spill?

-[Taylor] I mean...
-[Jen] Upstairs.

[Miranda] Was that from Ever?

-[Taylor] Yeah.
-She's breastfeeding again.

Can we just do it here?
I have to leave soon.

-Well...
-Yeah, so we just prefer

-it just be us right now.
-We don't want to, like...

-Why?
-Just because

that was where the issue was.

[Taylor] Well, then why didn't
you respond when I tried?

You wanted to wait on camera,
then let's do it on camera.

[Mayci] That's what we wanted
to talk to you about.

Well, we're right here on camera,
so just do it here.

-You want to do it on the stairs?
-I tried separately off camera.

You didn't care to
so let's do it right here.

Yeah, because I want to talk to you
about it in person, not over text.

-[Taylor] Okay, well--
-Which I can explain to you.

[Taylor] Well, you didn't even
acknowledge anything

until right now.

We don't want to say things
we didn't mean personally.

At least for me, I don't know about Mayci.

Well, then you should've
at least said that,

-"Let's wait till we're ready."
-You're right.

So, do you not want
to have the conversation?

And you guys ignored me
and you want to do it on camera.

Let's do it right here.

[♪ intense music playing]

[♪ upbeat music playing]

'Cause this isn't a problem with Jen

or Miranda or anyone else.

Then they don't have to be here.

They can, if they don't want to sit here,
they don't have to.

[Mayci]
Okay. Well, I just feel like it's weird.

[Jen] I'll go eat my bagels.

[Jen] I'm gonna eat some bagels.

Great. Cool.

This is really comfortable.

Okay, well, I guess why are you upset
that we didn't respond to your text?

I just, like,
it was not even acknowledged.

I mean, Jessi, thank you, Jessi.

Taylor just seems heated
from the minute Mayci

and Mikayla ask her to talk.

When Taylor gets in that mode,

you know nothing's going to go well.

[Mayci]
Yeah, well, that's the thing is that

we're always going to give you
the truth and the honesty.

And she wouldn't?

Jessi will,

but she's a little softer to you
to your face, I will say.

-So then what?
-So I'm say--

Okay, Jessi, come here, please.

What do you mean by that?

She just said that you're,
but you're nicer to me

and to my face than you are
actually behind my back.

No, I'm not saying she's mean
behind your back.

I'm saying she is softer to you
than we are in person.

I think there's more history here,
and that's why.

Overall, we've been frustrated in general
that we have tried to be there for you.

In the Bachelorette journey,
we were there,

and it sometimes feels like
you don't see that.

What makes you think
that I don't see that?

Because I think sometimes
when we get into these arguments

about Dakota or other things,
you immediately go to defense,

which is normal because,
like, it's triggering

instead of just realizing
we just want the best for you.

The other day wasn't about that at all.

What was it about?

Like, where did it turn?

I think the Doug comment but also earlier

Chase had made the comment about you guys,

I'm the brigade of perfect
relationships or whatever.

[Chase] I think it's ironic
that we got, like, the wardens

of healthy relationships out here.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

And then you guys were like,
yeah, like we do.

-I think we can all agree to that.
-[Jessi] I mean, them two, yeah.

-[Mikayla] We're great.
-You, for sure.

[Mikayla] Yeah.

-Yeah. What's wrong with that?
-Nothing.

It's just the way you guys do it.
And then you're like, "Oh, guys, we're--"

-What do you mean the way we do it?
-What is the way that we do it?

Like, when you say it out loud,
rubbing it in people's faces.

-[Layla] I don't know.
-[Jordan] This is so awkward.

[Layla] I'm overstimulated.

Mikayla and Mayci
are in a fortunate position

that they don't experience
a lot of the things

in their relationships
that other women have.

Like, where they insisted
on getting the ring back from Mason

where I told them that it wasn't necessary

and they still kind of did that.

So I wish sometimes
they would just take a step back,

realize that they don't get it,
and that's okay not to get it.

Okay, I think at the end of the day,

Mikayla made a comment that triggered you,

-and I think she really realizes--
-Well, no, I want to know what--

There's an underlining issue here

is that you guys go out
to people and you're like,

-oh, you give relationship advice.
-Who?

All of our friends,
I've seen you do it to Jen.

You don't give relationship advice
or advice about therapy?

I've seen you do it to Jen.
I've seen you do it to me.

Everyone does that.

Everyone gives advice.
It's why you have a friend group.

That's what MomTok is all about,
is giving advice,

being empathetic, being supportive.

I don't know when that switched,
but here we are. [chuckles]

And you make jabs about it.
You guys make, you make "jokes."

[Jessi] Okay. So, it's not
the relationship advice.

It was the jab.
Let's get just back to the issue.

But they do make jabs.
I'm not the only one who says this.

Okay, so do you.

Listen, I think we all made jabs,
and I apologize.

I said I wasn't trying to trigger you.

I think there's a good way
you could have came

and just said,
"Hey, I'm struggling right now

"and, like, this is super triggering.

Can this be off limits?"

-I would be like, "Absolutely."
-100%.

It's the way you came across and like...

-[Mayci] Yeah.
-The thing is,

is there's certain things
that I know about you guys

that I would never make a little joke

or a jab at you
and Jace's relationship at,

because that would be super inappropriate.

I know, but the thing is,
is we've all kind of joked about Doug.

That first day you told us,
we were all kind of like

having fun with it in a way.

And so I think she thought
it was okay because of that.

As my friends,
if you don't know that's a trigger,

then you're not my friends at all.

[♪ dramatic music playing]

-[Mikayla] Okay, but--
-Come on, let's wake up.

[Mikayla] I'm sorry.

Being here for the last four
or five years,

from the beginning of the swinging stuff,

from the Dakota stuff,
the Jenna stuff, the Shinia stuff,

The Bachelor, so much sh*t

that it's like clearly you don't value

and know what a true friend is.

Taylor, you choose
to trigger yourself every day.

So it's really hard to know.

So then why are you talking at all?
I'm trying to talk to them.

You called me over.

I know, and I got it clear,
and I said thank you.

-I'm talking to them now.
-Oh, um, okay.

Our wives can handle this, Jace.

-Of course they can.
-They're badass women.

Okay, but how are we supposed
to know when it's triggering you?

-Okay.
-Because we've all made jokes about Doug.

Well, because you saw
the trigger that day.

[Jessi] Oh my god.

[Jessi] She just gets so defensive
about everything.

[Miranda] I think Taylor's experiencing
a lot of pressures.

Bachelorette airing,
her toxic dynamic with Dakota.

She's a mother under the public eye.

It's a lot.
I think she is just getting defensive

because she knows what she should be doing

and she knows that she's not doing it.

I'm confused. So this conversation's
all over the place.

Well, you're the one saying
you're in a "happy, healthy relationship."

That's how you walked
into the conversation.

God forbid I'm happy in my marriage.

You're clearly not happy
because look how miserable you are.

[♪ dramatic music playing]

The low blows, they're not okay.

To start attacking someone's character,

it feels a lot more personal.

I'm definitely at my boiling point.

I'm not miserable. [chuckles]

I think you want us to admit.
I think you're projecting.

-[Dakota] Nope, I'm good.
-[Taylor] It's you.

-You act miserable to people.
-No, I don't.

You act like a b*tch.
Why are you called a b*tch all the time?

-I act like a b*tch?
-You do.

-No, I don't.
-[Taylor] Yes, you do. And you know that.

And that's okay. Own it.
I know I'm a b*tch. Own it.

You are a b*tch to people. Yes, you are.

It's like a toxic partner though.

Like, they came to confront her

and immediately, like,
Taylor got aggressive,

and Mayci and Taylor are both like,
"Oh, I'm so..." like...

-Yeah.
-"Hold on. I just want to talk to you."

I'm, like, just...

I think speaking from experience,

when you're in a relationship
or a toxic situation

where you're so used
to, like, yelling at each other

and being triggered,
when you're doing that with someone else,

that's what comes out.

Like, a perfect example is when me
and Chase were fighting,

I called him Jordan.

And it was because it triggered
that side of me, I said, "Jordan."

Yes, because I'm so used
to yelling at Jordan.

And that's so unhealthy,
and I am the first to admit that.

But when you're yelling at someone,

it triggers where you learned that.

I'm just saying the little jokes
that you make

about people's mistakes all the time.

It's like, why do you guys have
to do that?

I don't make jabs

and jokes all the time
at people's relationship.

I've heard you guys do it to people
and not just me.

[Mikayla] That's fine.

Then they, if they have those issues,
then they can come.

I mean, I also saw you attack Jen
when she was having her issues.

-[Mikayla] For what?
-[Mayci] When?

You were going at her, "You should leave.
You should do this. You should..."

I've never told her to leave her marriage.

-Actually, let's pull up our message.
-It's on camera!

I never said, "Jen, go get divorced."
I've never told her that.

I'm going to pull up all
my voice memos and show you

'cause actually Jen said
me and Mayci were the only two

there for her during that time.

I have text messages saying,

hey, I'm not telling you what to do.

I want you to be happy,
and that's what I want for Jen.

I want you to be happy,
whether that's with or without Zac.

That's so interesting because I feel like
everyone was against her that night,

-except me.
-Then pull it up.

Jen, come here, please.

-We were not against Jen.
-You were on her side being like,

"Yeah, stay," because you were
in a similar situation.

[Taylor] And you know what?
And I don't regret saying,

[Taylor] "Stay with your freaking
husband, work it out."

[Taylor] She's happy now.
So thank goodness I said that.

-[Mayci] I'm happy for her.
-[Jen] I heard my name.

Jen, did I tell you to leave
your marriage in Vegas?

Did I say, "Jen, leave
your marriage right now"?

They're also saying that you told them
that they were the only ones there for you

throughout your hard time.

-She did say that originally.
-[Mikayla] Yeah, I have a voice memo.

I said that because I was
desperately wanting

to validate what wasn't fully happening.

-That's true.
-That makes no sense.

-That's truth. That's the truth.
-What does that not make sense?

-What does that not make sense?
-[Mikayla] That makes no sense.

-[Jen] Well, you weren't there for me.
-[Mayci] She wanted to validate

what wasn't happening?

I thought saying thank you
for being there for me

would make them want
to be there for me more.

It was a cry out for help.

We never had this conversation
because I was mentally ill.

I came back and filmed,

and I avoided,
and I didn't say any of these things

because I wanted
to avoid the conversation.

-Yeah.
-But the truth is,

when I was going through
the hardest time of my life,

you were making TikToks with Demi
that were directly towards me.

I will call them out if they're going
to say that they were there for me.

[♪ suspenseful music playing]

Jen. [laughs]

What are you talking about?
I was like, first of all,

Jen, I don't even remember.
That was three years ago.

That has nothing to do
with what we're talking about.

-Yes, I will pull them up right now.
-[Mikayla] Okay.

I just don't get it.

Okay, well, anyways.

[Taylor] I know you guys are,
like, in better places,

but it's not your place to be like,
you should do this, you should do that.

You don't know what it's like
to be a single parent

in this setting.

Great. I understand where
you're coming from and I know--

All of us single parents making mistakes.

It's like, "You should do this, this,
and that." That's easy for you to say.

I would say that, too,
if I was in a good place.

Well, Mayci does understand
because she was a single parent.

-Yes.
-That's what I'm saying.

-[Mayci] Listen--
-In this setting on TV, national,

sharing with the world, no, she was not.

No, she was not in this situation
when she was a single mom.

You cannot diminish
what she has been through.

-I'm not.
-[Mikayla] Yes, you are.

-[Taylor] Where?
-You're saying, oh, it's not the same.

-It's not even close--
-It's not the same.

It's not a comparison thing.

Yeah, it's not. So stop comparing it.

You compared it.

-You just said--
-[Mayci] You just compared--

-You are the one comparing.
-No, she hasn't. So stop saying that.

It's the same sentiment. You can't say--

[Taylor] It's not the same situation,
Mikayla. No, it's not.

Her sexual abuse is not the same
as your sexual abuse.

-It's not the same thing, is it?
-[Mikayla] Not what I said.

-If you would listen for two seconds.
-I am listening. You don't listen.

But I'm also genuinely wondering,
like, if you were there for me,

then why would you be
a part of this video?

I don't even know
what that video's about, Jen.

That was, like, two years ago.

It's coming at you
because it's f*cking karma.

[Miranda]
MomTok has been able to make it

through some pretty tumultuous situations

and I thought, well,

if MomTok made it through that,
we can make it through anything.

But now... I don't know.

You act better than thou. You're not.

You need to be humbled. You're not.

Cool.

[♪ dramatic music playing]

[♪ pensive music playing]

We're talking about our conversation.
Yes, were you there?

You said the other day, Taylor, you're
just a f*cking, you're a shitty friend.

That's on f*cking camera. It is.

-You can't take it back.
-I didn't say you were a shitty friend.

I said, I feel like you don't give
a sh*t about people.

Okay, that's not true.

Okay. It's not true.

I don't feel like I have
a perfect, healthy marriage.

[Mayci] I think there was
one thing before that

with, like, me saying something
about, like, not everyone sees their ex.

[Mikayla] Or goes over to their exes.

Yeah, because that's...
People go to their ex all the time.

You of all people have
gone back to your exes,

-so that's, like, interesting.
-What do you mean? When?

-Ten years ago?
-[Taylor] Yeah.

-Her a*usive ex?
-[Mayci] Yes.

Yeah, again, I can make jabs right now

and be like, "I didn't do it
for three years, Taylor.

When I was at BYU,
I was in an a*usive relationship,

so I've been in that sort of,
like, toxic cycle.

Mine was definitely different

because I wanted to get out,
but I couldn't.

Whereas Taylor, I don't want
to say she can't get out,

but from what I know
and I hear, I think she can.

She just doesn't want to.

I don't need to give scenarios right now.

I'm trying to help you understand

that I would never say something
to intentionally hurt you

because that is not what
I would do to a friend.

That's just the reality.

So then why go home
and think you're perfect?

-She doesn't, Taylor. You know that.
-Taylor, God.

Is there any getting through to you?
Like, can you stop?

You need to just like actually focus
on what's happening.

-I am.
-You're not.

I don't feel like anyone's
being heard right now.

I wanted to have a calm conversation.

-Oh, I'm calm as f*ck.
-Understand each other.

-You don't feel calm.
-Neither do you.

-Either do you.
-I don't feel calm?

-Am I yelling? Am I sitting here yelling?
-Why are you being defensive?

We can sit here and point the finger
all day long.

[Mayci] I'm pretty damn calm.

-Is it going to fix the friendship?
-[Taylor] No.

No. It's just going to hurt more feelings.

So what's the point of saying,
well, you're doing it, too.

-It doesn't matter.
-I just think you go at people hard,

and it's just like from, for why?

Why do you go at people hard?
It's the same reason.

[Taylor] It's usually when
they're coming to attack me.

That is the only time I go at somebody.

-[Mikayla] No, it isn't.
-Okay, name another time.

How was Shinia trying to attack you?

Oh, my gosh. Okay. [laughs]

What did Shinia do wrong?
Are you an idiot?

[Mayci] She didn't say what she did wrong.

Is that what I said?

Shinia's name being brought up right now
is the worst thing that could happen

because Taylor is just going to go red,
and she's not going to see anything.

She's not going to hear anything.
She's just going to attack.

[Mayci] She said,
"What did she do to attack you?"

-[Taylor] Okay, you're good.
-I'm an idiot.

-I'm an idiot. I'm a b*tch.
-[Dakota] Hey.

What's up? What's up?

-Listen.
-[Taylor] Okay. Why'd you say hey then?

Well, I just... You guys are
just getting out of hand.

[Mayci] It's just not productive.

[Mikayla] I think we're done
with that friendship.

It's just getting out of hand.
You guys aren't getting anywhere

-in this conversation.
-So then what are you...

-So why are you getting in it then?
-Well, I just feel bad.

Then what are you going
to do about it then?

-Nothing.
-[Taylor] Okay.

I'm not going to do anything.

I just think that's a waste of time.

You're some expert
to give people advice on fights.

[Dakota] See, that's not going anywhere.

And neither is your relationship
that you want so badly,

so you're not in a place to give advice.

Okay, Tay.

[♪ intense music playing]

[Mayci]
MomTok is in shambles right now.

It's really sad to see
because MomTok started

with the purpose of empowering women,

but I fear MomTok
lost the plot a long time ago.

By the way,
I don't know why you guys tried

to have those conversations
with her even, like, knowing

how unhealthy she is right now.
It's crazy.

[Jessi] OK, OK wait,
you do the same thing.

[Mikayla] I don't know why you would go
and sleep with her

every other f*cking day...

[Mikayla] knowing how unhealthy she is.
Don't even f*cking start.

[Jessi] Dakota, why are you f*cking her...

Did you act like you were going to have
a healthy conversation with her?

[Jessi] knowing how unhealthy
she is right now?

-Be for real.
-[Mikayla] Good lord. You are rich, no.

Be so f*cking for real right now.

Did you think you were going
to have a healthy conversation with her?

That's my whole point.

♪♪

[Taylor] What are they fighting about?

[Mikayla] OK. Why don't you go
save her and sleep with her again?

[people shouting]

Right, but what I'm saying is
I'm not trying to do that.

[Jessi] We know. We know.

Okay. So I'm just saying--

[Mayci] Wait, wait, wait, wait.

We're trying to mend a friendship though.

We're not trying to be, like,
let's attack each other.

That's why I want to have a conversation.

-We care about Taylor.
-I agree.

-I want to have a friendship with her.
-I agree.

That's why I want to have
a conversation with her.

I'm trying to stay calm.
I feel like I was pretty calm.

What was going on?
What's going on in here?

Well, he's saying that we shouldn't be,
like, having this conversation with you.

Well, no, just meaning like
I just feel like right now--

-[Mayci] He was defending you.
-Like, such a...

-Don't be mad at him.
-I'm not mad at him.

I'm just saying I don't know
why Mikayla would say,

I wonder what f*cking Shinia did to you.

What the f*ck do you mean?

I didn't say that.
Again, did you hear what I said?

How was Shinia trying to attack you?

Oh, my gosh. Okay. [laughs]

What did Shinia do wrong?
Are you an idiot?

-She didn't say what she did wrong.
-Is that what I said?

What did Shinia do?
She didn't attack you.

No, she just f*cked
my baby daddy behind my back.

Again, what I said was,
how did Shinia attack you?

She didn't do anything to attack you.

What you were doing online
was bullying and attacking her

because he wasn't dating you.

And just because he's your baby daddy,

okay, stop sleeping with him then
and be a baby daddy and be a co-parent.

Shut up. I'm saying, what did she do?

That's it. That's not attacking you.

-It's worse.
-I said, why did you go online...

-...after you said I only deal with--
-And I regret nothing.

[Dakota] I'm just saying
I have to deal with that.

Good job. I don't know what to tell you.

So to act like what did Shinia do?
What the f*ck are you asking me that for?

What did she do to f*cking Miranda?
It's f*cked.

[Mikayla]
Sure. No one's saying it's not.

[Taylor] So then don't ask,
what did Shinia do?

She f*cking went behind her,

her best friend's back, and me,
to hurt us.

And then she went on
to do it more to hurt us.

It's f*cked, is it not?

Let me have some b*tch
come f*ck your baby daddy and see.

What did she do to you, Mikayla? The f*ck?

It takes going through it
to understand this pain.

I would not be with him anymore
if he continued to do those things.

That doesn't mean
you can't f*cking hurt about it

-and the girl.
-[Mikayla] No, it's not.

While I fully understand
being hurt by Shinia...

Shout out to my follower
who sent me a video

of what looks like Chase
and Shinia on a date.

[Miranda]
...I think it's pretty obvious

that Dakota is in the wrong here,
especially for someone

that only initially
started pursuing Shinia

in efforts to get at Taylor.

The sooner she starts to understand that,

the sooner she can actually start
to walk her healing path.

[Taylor] Why would you ask that?

[Miranda] How did we get here, though?

-Exactly. I--
-Well, because she brought up Shinia.

She's like, "What did Shinia do
to you, Taylor?"

The f*ck?

This is what I mean. Pointless.

[Jessi] I think the sentiment is that
we want you

to be in a place where
when those things do happen...

[Taylor] Don't touch me.

...because inevitably they happen,
being in a place

where you're healed enough
where it's like it hurts,

but not feeling like--

No, it's just so dumb.
I don't know how you asked that.

-[Jessi] No, I know.
-She f*cking f*cked my baby daddy.

It hurts to ask me
what did Shinia do? She hurt me.

[♪ solemn music playing]

[Mikayla] Yes, I know. I'm aware.

What do you mean what'd she do?
She f*cking destroyed me.

[Miranda] It wasn't right.

-[Jessi] No, no one's defending that.
-[Jordan] No one's justifying that.

No one's defending that.

Well, you guys kind of were that night

until she f*cking did it to Miranda, too.

-[Jessi] No. No one.
-Definitely not.

No one justified her actions once, Tay.

-[Jacob] Yeah.
-[Jessi] No, no, no.

It's almost like if Taylor gets to a point
where she is so angry

that she can't be any angrier,

it, like, breaks,
and the true emotion comes out,

and it's sadness and hurt
and heartbreak and pain.

At the end of the day,
she's just a heartbroken, sad little girl.

Yes, I'm so miserable.

I'm f*cking sad because I can't...

It's like I love someone so much
and I can't f*cking let it go,

but I know I can't be with him

so I'm stuck and it f*cking sucks.

[♪ gentle music playing]

I hate him, but I love him,
and I'm so sick of it.

And we know that. We know you do.

You wouldn't sleep with him
if you didn't love him.

Like, that's very evident.

So I understand where you feel stuck.

[Mikayla] I don't even know how
we got here again.

[Mayci]
But again, like, we want to help you.

And, like, I've been...
I want to, and I've tried to.

-I just don't know what to do.
-[Taylor] I don't know what to do.

That's the issue.
I'm f*cked up myself, so I get it.

And I'm sorry, Mikayla,
that I treated you like sh*t.

-And to everyone else, I'm just tired.
-[Mikayla] Thanks?

[Mikayla] I guess.

-[Taylor crying]
-[Dakota] Hey.

[Taylor] I just got to go. [cries]

Just looking in Taylor's eyes,
I just see sadness.

Even if I'm frustrated with her,

I know that's someone
that just needs to be loved,

and I hope that she can feel that.

♪ I am just a river to your ocean... ♪

[Taylor sniffling, crying]

[Taylor] I'm sorry for being mean.

[Mayci] And I feel like it's hard
when we're fighting, too.

[Mayci] I don't want to fight with you.
I love you.

Just I'm mean to everyone around me
and it sucks.

It's eating me alive
and all the shitty things I've done.

No, she's sitting there treating me
and Mayci both like sh*t.

-Oh, by the way, I'm sorry.
-[Zac] Yeah, I...

And then Mayci's-- I'm like,
it's just ridiculous. It's not okay.

Listen, it's okay. Let us help you.

Mayci chasing her tells her
that she can do that again

and get away and, like,
that's okay in the relationship.

Literally. Like, six months ago.

Your wife shouldn't be chasing after her
after she treats her like sh*t though.

That's, like,
that's, like, the toxic pattern.

We love you.
I don't want to fight with you.

Time out.
This is like her breaking down now

and now getting into a vulnerable state,

which is way f*cking different
than her and Mikayla

and Mayci yelling at each other.

That's way different. This is just comfort
because they've been friends

for the last four years.
That's all that is.

[Mikayla] Mayci's never going to
get that comfort in return.

[Taylor] I have to let it go.

[cries]

It is very hard for me
to watch Taylor in this moment

because I also know
what it's like to love someone

even when you know it's not right.

But I do commend Mayci for being

the Christ-like human being that she is
and showing up in this moment

because that is what friends do.

[Taylor crying]

[Taylor] I just loved him so much.
And I hate him now.

I know.

[Jessi] I'm sorry.

[Taylor] And I just can't acknowledge it
'cause I'm so pissed all the f*cking time.

I know.

[Taylor] And I hate that
I'm mean to him, too.

[Taylor] Because I loved him.
I loved him.

You still love him. I know. I know.

[Taylor] I have to let it go.

-I know, I know.
-[Taylor continues crying]

[Miranda] That's really like
the big looming question here.

How many times are you going
to, like, be in a position

where you're, like, supporting that

over and over and over as a friend?

And to the point where it's
also affecting you as a person.

-It's draining you.
-That's what I'm saying.

But what's worth your energy
and what's not?

-Exactly.
-Because, like, it's like that type of--

I don't think it's an energy thing.

I think it's more of, like,
a scared shitless thing.

You're going to get crushed by the world
if you go against Taylor.

I don't give two shits
what Taylor's fanbase does.

The only good friend is the person
that's calling you out on your crap.

That's what you're supposed to do

because you want them to be happy.

This is so stupid.

-But it's normal.
-[Jessi] It is.

-Anger comes first.
-Yeah, I'm not, like, the healed,

like, the most healed person,
but, like, I literally told Jordan

this morning I want a divorce.

Like, I'm still in that, too,
so I get this feeling.

Like, it's really, really hard
to let go of hurt

and resentment and anger.

But you have so much potential
to do so, Taylor,

and, like, we just want that for you.

But I think you know what you need to do.

It's just really f*cking hard
to get there.

-I just can't swallow the pill.
-Yeah.

Of accepting it. And I told him that.

I was just like,
it sucks because I just love you.

Hey, come, can you come out here?

[Miranda] ...in a very emotional state
and has been

[Mikayla] Sure. I have to go outside.

for an extended period of time.
So there's a lot more

of that give and not a lot of the take.

[Taylor] I just want to say, 'I'm sorry.'

[Mikayla] Okay. I'm sorry.

[Taylor] You've been nothing but
a good friend to me.

[Taylor] I'm sorry.

[Taylor] I'm just so hurt and angry.

[Mikayla] I know.
And that made me sad for you. [cries]

[Taylor] You're just a really good friend.

[Taylor] And this isn't fair to you.

[Taylor] You're so right,
you've been there for so much.

-[Mayci] Like--
-I'm crying. I'm like, ugh.

[Taylor] I'm sorry.
You don't deserve this.

I just think we're all going
through so much

and then we get in those situations
that are so heated,

it's hard to just, you know,
validate everybody in it.

-I know.
-[both sniffling]

But obviously we all just want
to take this away from you.

I also get your side of it
going through it

and how hard it is to get out of it.

[Taylor] Yeah, it's just not
right for me to go at you guys.

[Taylor] And I'm sorry.

It's no shocker to us
that Taylor is hurting.

Like, under any anger I think
is always some form of hurt,

whether you know how to voice it or not.

And so when she's human and vulnerable
and opening up like this,

it's like a glimpse of what
we want MomTok to be. [chuckles]

That's where I reacted wrong and I'm like,
you guys have been there

for everything I've seen about that.

When I apologize, I was like,
they've been here for everything,

and you've checked in and you've
really tried and it wasn't fair.

And that's why I think
I even feel shittier.

I'm just like, I'm literally trying
to ruin everything, so I'm, like, alone.

-And that's not fair to you.
-[Mikayla] Yeah.

And not... I know you guys
have been there throughout.

And I want you to know
it's not fair to yourself either.

I don't know the real reason
why Taylor kind of lashes out

and pushes everyone away.

But I always refer
to that, like, famous quote

where it's, like, you accept
the love you feel like you deserve.

And if she doesn't feel like
she deserves that love,

she'll never accept the right person.

And she'll keep pushing
the right people away

and taking in the wrong people.

-Just let me in.
-Yeah.

Let me be there for you and help you.

Like, I don't want you
going through this alone.

No one wants to go through it alone.

I like to isolate, but I know
it makes me so much worse.

You're a good mother.
And you're a good person.

You got to keep telling
yourself every single day.

Thank you.

Even though us as a group
have gone through a lot

of breaking and mending of friendships,

being there for Taylor just reminds me

what this group is really all about.

Who's pregnant? It's me.

I'm two weeks behind you.

[girls cheering]

[all] Our Roxie, our Roxie, our Roxie!

You know, we need to give each other grace

for everything
we're currently going through.

♪ Into the... ♪

[♪ intense music playing]

I love you.

-I'm sad. [cries]
-[Mikayla] Alright.

♪ Into the unknown... ♪

No matter what you choose, we're all here.

[crying]

[Mayci] We all want to be heard
and loved, and I love you guys.

-That's it.
-[Taylor] Thank you.

♪ The unknown... ♪

It's moments like this
that keep us united.

And it's moments like this that remind me

why this group came together
in the first place.

I think that's what
sisterhood is all about.

I hate bringing this energy to people.

And so that's why I literally seclude.

Again, this is why we're here.
We care about you.

-If we didn't give a sh*t--
-But look what it's caused.

But, lookit, it's fine.
We're making up.

-But this is what we want. Like, the...
-This is what we want.

Yes, I don't want that conversation
on the staircase.

-We want this conversation.
-[Mayci] We all care about each other

at the end of the day.

I know. And I just, I want energy
so I can return it.

[Mikayla] I know.

-And so I think--
-[Jacob] You guys have, like, deep scars.

Yeah, 100%.

[Taylor] Dakota still in there, or not?

[Taylor] I just want to say
goodbye to Ever.

Oh, yeah. Here, let's...

I've been hurt a lot by Taylor,

and I could use that as, like,
a thing of being, like,

I could never be
with you again but, like...

[Jessi] Alrighty.

-But what?
-Yeah.

[Dakota] Hey, can you give me
a hug please?

[Dakota] I love you.

[Dakota] Sorry.

[Taylor] That's okay.

[Dakota] I'm sorry.

[Dakota] I love you, baby.

[Taylor] Holding onto Dakota
feels bittersweet.

♪ Madness... ♪

It took going through all of this

to realize I became
the person I did not like.

I'm doing things to people
that he did to me.

-You sleep with Dakota?
-Yes.

-[Mayci] So you cheated.
-[Jessi] You had a ring on your finger.

♪ Madness... ♪

Did you tell Doug?

Bring up all my flaws.
I'll bring up yours then, too.

-Go ahead.
-Not everyone's perfect like you. Sorry.

Doing all of this has created
such turmoil inside

and shame and misery.

I can't do this. Like, I can't live
like this. I can't feel this.

[Dakota] It's okay.

It's game over right here.
It ends here.

[Dakota] It's okay

♪ Caught in the madness ♪

[Dakota] I've got you.

[Taylor] But you didn't, though.

[Dakota] I know.

♪ It wasn't enough for you ♪

♪ To cut my soul in two ♪

♪ You had to pour salt in my wounds ♪

♪ Don't pray for me ♪

♪ Don't pray for me ♪

[♪ upbeat music playing]

Hey, welcome to Thirst.
What can we get for you?

Can I do a Little Mama?

[Zac] And then can I do a Dr. McCreamy?

Okay, then let's do a pretzel bite cup.

-Okay. Awesome.
-And can we do some beignets as well?

-Got you.
-Sweet.

Alright. We'll get that right out for you.

-Thank you.
-Thank you.

[♪ upbeat music playing]

Thank you.

[vendor]
You're welcome. Have a happy day.

[Jen] Thank you. I'm gonna need it.

Look here. Have a happy day.

How are you feeling?

I just need, like, a second to breathe

and just process my emotions.

Yeah, just take your time.

I was really excited
about one of these roles

that I've auditioned for,
but I didn't get that role.

As a mom, a lot of me feels like, oh,

who do I think I am
trying to go after this?

I have kids to take care of.

And it's really challenging
for me right now.

I don't want to cry anymore.

[Zac] That's why we're eating beignets.

I literally don't want to cry anymore.

[Zac] They're going to make
everything better.

What, what can I do for you?

[Jen sniffling]

Your hormone specialist said that

you might get a little hangry.

[♪ tense music playing]

-Maybe have a bite or two.
-Yeah, no, you think this is funny.

-No, I'm-I'm not...
-And you're saying I'm hangry

and hormonal and all these things.

I know that's really funny to you.

No, babe. Babe, I'm just saying
maybe have a bite to eat

and you might feel a little bit better.

This is just kind of awkward.

[Jen] I feel like Zac is not taking
these dreams and goals seriously.

I think he's afraid... of losing me.

I feel like if you truly wanted me
to achieve this dream

and goal of mine,
you would just support me.

-[♪ gentle music playing]
-[baby babbling]

I have supported you in every dream

and every single thing you've asked.

And you literally said if you do acting,

if you're in a relationship with someone,
I want a divorce.

You're right. You're right. I would not--

So then that just told me
everything I need to know.

[♪ intense music playing]

Jen, it's a boundary. I don't know.
You want me to lie about that?

Do you want me to say I'm okay with that?

I don't want to lie to you.

It's a job.

Like, people show up and act.
Like, that's their job.

I've shown I'm a good husband.

This group of girls
has never had your back.

Your family's never been able to be there.

I'm literally the only person in your life

that has made that effort.

Everyone else has screwed you over.

The only person who has validated you
and continually had your back...

has been me.

At the end of the day,
I want to feel like I have... agency

in our marriage
and that you don't control me

and that I can make
this decision for myself.

That's a boundary I'm setting,
and I'm not... I've prayed about it.

-You've prayed about it.
-[Zac] And everything. Yeah.

If my wife pursues acting,
I should divorce her.

[♪ suspenseful music playing]

I would like to go home.

I don't want to talk
about this anymore. I...

-I don't think this is going anywhere.
-This is what I'm talking about,

you not emotionally being there for me.

I'm confronting you about an issue,

and you're not willing
to have a communi...

You're right because I've tried

and wanted to have
this conversation for months

and you're now choosing to do it
in a public Thirst on camera.

No, you haven't. No, you haven't.

[Zac] Okay. Can we please go home?

I'm not comfortable right now.

Having this conversation
is making me realize

I don't know

if I'll ever be able to go
after what I actually want.

It's starting to make me really question

what our relationship
will look like in the future.

[♪ intense music playing]

[Zac sighs]

[♪ upbeat music playing]

♪ Got to think twice
if you treat me like that ♪

♪ If you wanna play
then I'm gonna play back ♪

♪ If you want a game,
not afraid to get back ♪

♪ Wanna make enemies,
now you got that... ♪

Don't let your colleagues ruin your day.

Start by ruining theirs.

Off to lunch.

-[Jen] Hi.
-[Mikayla] Hi!

-Ooh, I love this color on you.
-[Jen] Thank you!

Also, this house is amazing.

-It smells good, too.
-You guys should see the hot tub.

-Oh.
-[Mikayla] Should we skinny dip?

-[Jen] Yeah.
-[Mayci] What do you do in that hot tub?

Oh.

Things are still unresolved with Zac,

but all of MomTok
is coming over to my house.

I heard from the ladies

that Taylor finally
called it quits with Dakota.

I unfortunately have
to swallow the pill completely

and be like, "I wanted this.
I just can't do it."

-[Jessi] Yeah.
-[Taylor] So I'm removing myself.

I'm texting him that, like,
"I want nothing more.

I don't want a friendship.
I don't want anything."

-[Jessi] Yeah.
-[Taylor] I want to heal.

Do I wish she would've walked away
from this relationship sooner?

Absolutely.

But at the same time,
it's easier said than done.

And so I'm really hoping
this is the final straw.

Jacob and I were, like,
screwing around the other night

and I was joking around,
I'm like, should we dock?

[Miranda] Who's docking?

No, I was joking.

I was telling Jacob like,
"Do you want to dock?" [laughs]

Mayci just asked me if I wanted to dock.

Docking is like you kind of just, like,
lay it on there, you know?

It's like a hot dog and a bun
just kind of, like, sitting there.

It's not fully in there.

I have never docked,
if that's the next question.

I have never docked. I have never soaked.

I just went right
to the real thing, you know?

Got pregnant at 19,
so I probably should have just soaked

or docked, but I didn't.

[phone buzzing]

Oh, Taylor's calling me. Hello?
Are you coming over to Jen's?

[Taylor] No.

Oh, you're not coming?

[Taylor] Oh, no.
I thought maybe production told you guys

I'm not filming today.

Oh, you're not? Why?

[Taylor] Are you being filmed right now?

[Mayci] Yes.

[Taylor] Because I'm dealing
with a f*cking mess.

I'm just dealing with Dakota.
He's f*cking insane.

[Mayci] Okay.

Honestly, hearing this
is really disappointing.

Like, I was really hopeful
after the housewarming party at Jessi's

that maybe that, like,
that was a turning point

for them as far as their relationship.

Do you want to say...
Do you want to share or do you--

-Yeah, if you don't want to share it--
-You don't have to share that.

[Taylor] I don't really give
a f*ck anymore

because he f*cking tries to ruin my life,
so I don't give a f*ck to all...

I'm going to start speaking
my truth because...

-What did he do?
-[Taylor] ...that's all he does.

Um, he called CPS.

Or he had a friend call CPS

because we got in a fight the other night.

I don't know.
He told some... freaking lies.

He said we were on the highway
and we were fighting,

and I turned around to scream
at Ever in his face,

and then I punched myself
to make it look like he punched me.

-[Mayci] What?
-[Taylor] And...

Ever was never in the car, by the way.

I have cameras to say that he was in my...
Like he... Never on a highway.

And anyways, I guess his friend called CPS
and was like, "Taylor's, like, a*usive.

She does things to Ever.
Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada."

So then they called me
and I'm like, "The f*ck?"

And I'm like, "Yeah, come over."
Like, yes, come over. I'm not afraid.

I've never touched my child
in my f*cking life,

like, ever, my children, ever.

[Mikayla] I feel like I'm in disbelief.

We knew how toxic their relationship was,

but I think no one knew that it was as bad

as what this is sounding like.

[Jen] I don't know what
to believe at this point.

I don't know if Dakota is trying
to sabotage Taylor.

I feel like The Bachelorette,
you know, it's coming around.

Taylor's about to start
a bunch of press for that

and is in a place of her life
that she should be very happy.

[Mayci] Part of me feels like
it could be a manipulation tactic

to ruin Taylor's life to an extent.

I just hope that
there's no truth behind it.

That should be the final straw.
Him involving Ever is crazy.

[Taylor] He is the poison in my life.

He's like, "Taylor, I've been
protecting you for way too long."

The f*ck?
I don't tell my side usually to people

because of how f*cking bad it is, like,

and how you would be looked at.

And you're going to get f*cking destroyed
if I have to come out and say it.

Like, you think I don't document
what you do to me?

What kind of proof
does he think he has anyway?

[Taylor] Oh, I don't know.
I mean, he's videoed me before

when we were fighting and I'm like,

"Of course you take out
your camera to show

because you need something
so you're innocent."

And I don't quite give a f*ck.

Like, the fact that I have
majority of custody.

So, Dakota, if you think
I'm an a*usive, crazy b*tch,

then why the f*ck am I taking care
of our son all the g*dd*mn time?

Yeah, exactly. That's so crazy.

[Taylor] [crying] I just, like, wanted
to believe he's not this person.

It's, like, really hard to believe
you're like this type of person, dude.

How do you say you love me?

How do you say you want a family
and you're, like, psycho?

[Jessi] Dakota has always said
he wants to be with Taylor,

but it's like something finally snapped.

And maybe it's Bachelorette coming up.

Maybe it's her being done with him,

and he's now pulling all his cards out,
and he's playing them all.

[Taylor] The timing's impeccable.
That's what sucks.

Because, like, I'm literally...
It's impeccable.

All of a sudden,
I'm this a*usive, crazy girl again

once everything's being released
about, like, The Bachelorette.

He's so insecure.
He's always in competition with you

so that you're the Bachelorette
now that's coming in.

God forbid you move on
and you become happy.

[Mayci] I feel like
this is like a tipping point.

Like, I feel like you're at the point
where, like, I genuinely

am worried for you, like mentally,

like your health,
like it's not safe for you.

[Taylor] Yeah, it just sucks.

[Mayci] Let me know
if you need someone to talk to.

We're all here for you.

-[Taylor] Okay, bye.
-Oh, no.

[Layla] That's insane, actually.

[♪ intense music playing]

They're in a very toxic cycle,
and it's just so sad.

-Like, it's so sad.
-[Mayci] So messed up.

I'm just conflicted.

I feel like I have to process
before I say anything I regret.

That's scary.

Like, people are going to jump
to conclusions on both sides.

I'm not even really thinking about
if Dakota's sabotaging her or not.

I'm mainly just thinking
about, like, her kids

in this situation and, like,
what that's going to look like for them.

I'm on Team Kids.

-Yeah, well, exactly,
-Yeah.

-Team Ever.
-That's what matters

the most in this situation.

[♪ suspenseful music playing]

I'm always hopeful that this is the end
of Taylor and Dakota.

It needs to be intervened with,
and we can't just, like, sit by.

I hope that she means it this time,

but I don't know if they're actually done.

They cannot keep doing this.

-Like, I'm just terrified.
-Yeah.

At this point, it feels like everything
can just come crashing down.

One of them is going
to end up dead or in jail.

[♪ intense music playing]

[Miranda] It needs to stop.

[Jessi] Oh, my God.

[♪ intense music playing]

[♪ intense music playing]

-[indistinct]
-[crewmember] Okay.

[♪ suspenseful music playing]

When Mayci took Taylor's call,

little did we know the snowball effect

that was awaiting everyone,
especially Taylor.

[reporter]
A bombshell on The Bachelorette.

ABC has made the decision
to pull the season of The Bachelorette.

[reporter 2]
Just days before the premiere.

The 2023 video was leaked
from Taylor's arrest.

It feels planned.

Dakota is the one who filmed the video.

And to hold that for three years...

The timing of everything
is very calculated.

[Jessi] I remember every day
just holding my breath.

Is news going to break?
Is news going to break?

Is Taylor going to go to jail?

Like, is Dakota going to go to jail?
It was so scary.

This has been a very toxic relationship.

I don't think any of us knew to the extent

of how bad the relationship was.

What is reactive abuse?

I don't even really know what's happening.

I'm still trying to, like, navigate
and figure out all of this.

Their relationship is
so complicated and nuanced

that these definitions don't cleanly fit.

You guys have to figure out a lot here.

It's hard to see the public paint us
to be these bad friends

and these villains in Taylor's story.

Um, Taylor unfollows,
like, most of MomTok,

but, like, what the heck happened?

[Layla]
And if anything, I would argue

we've been by Taylor's side
throughout all of this.

It's shitty. Like, the online hate
from this has been shitty.

It's just entering the territory
of it being dangerous and destructive.

It's just like, why does
there need to be sides?

I want the best for Taylor.

This whole thing has spiraled,
and it's tearing friends apart.

Mayci's calling out
Taylor's cult following.

I will always be Team Taylor
forever and ever and ever.

I don't know if we can get back
to what we were before.

As of right now, it just feels
like everything's burning.

Why can't we understand

how it f*cking sucks
for the other castmates?

Can't we be supportive
of the other women, too?

[influencer] Taylor has thrown
her friends to her followers

and said, "Here, have at it."

[producer] Where do you guys
go from here, Mayci?

[producer] That's the big question.

[Layla] I think that MomTok is
in a place right now

that it's definitely in shambles.

Taylor Frankie Paul
is breaking her silence

and had her rep tell TMZ

that she will be telling
her side of the story.

I'm a person that will
always speak my truth

and I'm, you know,
that's what I'm known for.

And so when the time is right, I will be.

Do you know if Taylor will be
joining us for season six?

You know, I don't know
what's been confirmed yet.

I'll be damned, honestly,

if one person drags down
this amazing group of women

that are supposed to uplift one another

and be there for one another.

And Taylor's not going to be

the reason why this group
goes into flames.

I will say I've been here before,

and I got through it and, you know,

shared my story, my light.

So I'm hoping that I can do that again.

[♪ intense music playing]

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ And God is my beautiful witness ♪

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ I'm not a saint ♪

♪ I am sin ♪

♪ I'm just a God ♪

♪ What you preach makes no sense ♪

♪ 'Cause if God is perfect
then so is my sin ♪