Alien Crash at Roswell: The UFO Truth Lost in Time (2013)

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Narrator: For many the Roswell

UFO Crash is simply a story.

For others it is a belief in

something larger than our

selves, however for one

family it is a fact.

A legacy headed down through 3

generations told with verity

and certitude

the story of Jesse Marcel Sr.

Philip Coppens historian and

author of the ancient alien

question set out on a quest

to discover the reality behind

Roswell

by visiting the one true

source, the family of Jesse

Marcel.

Philip Coppens: UFO phenomenon

began on June 24th, 1947 when

Kenneth Arnold

saw 9 flying objects over Mt.

Rainer in Washington State.

Ever since we have known the

term UFO unidentified flying

objects, but what if

a few days later early July of

1947 an object crashed in

Roswell New Mexico

and the answer as to what the

unidentified stood for became

a reality.

What if in Roswell in 1947

extraterrestrial beings crash

landed on planet earth and the

government has known

about it ever since.

The story of Roswell only

began to get international

recognition from the 1980's

onwards.

What had happened was that in

the late 1970's the UFO

researchers specifically

Stanton Friedman and Bill

Moore also known as William

Moore began to look into the

story.

William Moore together with

Charles Bowlus had just done a

fantastic

international bestselling book

called The Bermuda Triangle

and riding on that

success they were looking for

a follow up.

That follow up became known as

the Roswell Incident.

It is a book about the

possibility whether or not the

story of Roswell happened.

The story hinges on the

testimony of one single

person, Jesse Marcel.

What had happened was that in

their travels as UFO

researchers, they had heard

this rumor about this one guy

who allegedly had handheld

some of the

material which had happened at

a crash site of an

extraterrestrial disc near

Roswell New Mexico in 1947 and

both Stanton Friedman and Bill

Moore went out

in search of this man who at

that moment in time was still

alive.

His name is Jesse Marcel.

The story of Jesse Marcel is

the core of this documentary.

It is the story of 3

generations of the Marcel

family and 3 Jesse Marcel's as

well

at that who all have been

intrigued with whether or not

the truth of Roswell should

become known.

And it is an interesting story

because here we have two

generations who have

handled this material with

their own hands.

The first person is Major

Jesse Marcel.

He went to the crash site and

brought some of the material

back home before he has to

take it into the base.

He showed it to his wife. He

showed it to his 11-year old

son.

Now we have a third

generation. Jesse Marcel the

III, the grandson of

Major Jesse Marcel and he is

talking about a life long

quest to find out what Roswell

really is.

Jesse Marcel III: Back in

this, that idea of the thought

that you know was there

actually more to this first

site that has been told.

My grandfather always almost

to the wake of his eye was

always said there was so

much more in the story than I

can tell you

so much more than the media or

he is told of the newspapers

in time that kind of

thing that really show you

something,

but I really believe there is

a lot more to that first crash

site than we know about

passed the items, passed the

metal, passed those materials.

The date we have narrowed this

out was something around July

2nd, late to even in

July 2nd. It was in a few days

before that.

There was, people were saying

these things everywhere

describing them blue

lights, describing them as

saucers, looking saucer, like

saucer plates put

together flying across the

sky.

Everyone from priest to

politicians to the police,

everyone seen these things fly

to the valley and it was

backed up radar was many

targets that would come in

and out of range, and it was

like it must have been a very

fast at the same time to be in

the desert to think that all

this going on around you.

And again I think by this time

UFO's were talked about you

know it is nothing,

I mean it was like a

fascinating oddity,

but it was nothing, no reality

to it.

And here was a whole town of

people

literally seeing these things

and think there is something

strange going on now.

Narrator: The legacy of

Roswell has been handed down

through three generations not

as an event that may have

happened, but as a truth that

cannot be denied

and therefore the evidence of

Roswell is contained in the

experiences of those who

were actually there.

Philip: For the Marcel family

Roswell is not a question

mark.

It is not a controversy. There

are no unknowns as to whether

or

not something happened. The

question is just a matter of

details

as to where they came from and

what has happened to the

material whether we have

somehow benefited as a species

from the material which the

governments secluded

from 1947 onwards, but

everything else, the truth

that something landed in

Roswell

is a family legacy which the

Marcel's have cherished for

several decades and continue

to do so. They have spoken out

before, but now Jesse

Marcel is ready to tell.

Jesse Marcel III: He knew what

it was. He knew how big it was

and he knew that

this kind of story, this kind

of information could cost you

your life.

This technology was very

important right now. It was

very, very important that the

government kept the

information tight to their

best.

They did not want it getting

out. It was their property, no

one else's.

Philip: So what happened?

For families like the

Marcel's, the Blanchard's

there was never any doubt this

was true. This has happened

and of course there was

the evidence at the I-Beam in

the kitchen a few years or a

few months afterwards.

When they were holding it and

looking at it and seeing this

is evidence of what happened.

So what for the rest of the

world has been speculation and

for very large sections of

the world population today

continues to be a question

mark, for them it is an

absolute truth. They know and

Marcel family, are so

adamant in getting this out

because for them it is a truth

which needs to come out

into the open.

Jesse Marcel III: There was a

lot of people thought about

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why did they tell people about

this you know they felt we

couldn't handle it,

that people are going to

handle it. I have always

thought that doesn't really

make a lot of sense. I think

people would have loved to be

able to been part of that

first that the UFO that life

does exist out there the

wonderment, the fantastic idea

that we are not alone.

I think it was more of our

government

knowing that they had a piece

of technology that no one else

had and for us

to stay on top and just like

any other top secret program

it was going to be kept

and kept the very type of like

when you think about the MOGUL

Bloom and there are top

secret programs.

When in history have you ever

seen they released a top

secret program with all

newspapers or also black and

white. They bring it out.

It is in every newspaper on

every radio disclosing all

these details about the top

secret program.

The decided that obviously

there this MOGUL all over

important had nothing

compared to some what did on

the first of that day so it

was easy for them to give

up a little bit to hold a

price.

Narrator: In 1947, if the

government told you to keep a

secret, it was considered

your patriotic duty to hold

that information.

Jesse Marcel Sr. was loyal to

his country and above all else

he was a patriot.

During the press conference

Marcel was told to pose with

materials from a MOGUL

balloon that we knew it was

not the materials he had

brought back from Corona.

He complied with his orders.

Jesse Marcel III: You know

that says some things, one, he

can be trusted with

information that was obviously

very valuable to the more that

they didn't

trust and 99.9% of the people

with and he was world's

people.

It tells a little bit about

themselves as ability to, you

know you can imagine I am

about to work with a team. I

am going to tell them where to

drop

a b*mb that k*ll thousands and

thousands of people. To take

that responsibility and to be

able to put yourself aside and

follow your orders and that

seems like the way to do it.

He really paved that later in

life.

Philip: At the end of the

1980's it was clear that the

government had to do

something.

There was massive interest and

people were beginning to ask

questions.

Even people close to American

presidents were intrigued to

find out what Roswell

was really all about.

And so in 1994 the American

government said that something

had indeed happened in

Roswell which they couldn't

speak about.

That it was a secret project

called Project MOGUL which

involved special air

balloons which was somehow

floated the top parts of the

sky to find out whether or

not atomic explosions had

occurred somewhere.

And so they couldn't explain

this in 1947 which is why

there was a cover up.

Now I didn't really answered

really why there were bodies

and so a few years later

in 1997 the government came

back and said, "Oh yes we

forgot about that and the

bodies you saw were not human

bodies at all.

They are test dummies which we

somehow put up in the sky and

then dropped it to

the ground and this is what

people saw."

The problem is that this test

dummies didn't exist in 1947

and the government

was saying that this somehow

happened somewhere in the

1950's.

And so what the American

government is trying to tell

you is this, that you have

to believe that somehow in

1947 the lied

and that it was a special air

balloon, which they couldn't

talk about and that

somehow later on near Roswell

crashed dummies landed on the

ground and that

somehow the lights of Marcel,

Blanchard and everybody else

involved with the

Roswell story is mistaken that

somehow they have put together

two stories which

happened several years ago,

several yeas apart and that

they can't tell what really

happened at Roswell, but that

the American government goes

knows perfectly well

and you just have to trust

them that they know perfectly

well.

Jesse Marcel III: Not only had

they performed this service

for our military

and done it perfectly, but

then he was rejected and

basically scapegoated, put in

the center for controversy

which he would have loved to

have talked to people about

it.

It is something that he

believed in. I mean he

believed on the soul that this

was something from another

place and it was also the

wonderment that how he could

add to the value of our own

human existence to realize

there is something

else out there that actually

came to visit us or reason to

believe that this

technology did not exist. That

what I found out there was not

in the

service or built by human

hands.

He was very - he left no room

to conclude there was anything

but - he wasn't one to

say the government covered

this up and it wasn't the

weather balloon, but he kept

to

the high road and he said,

"What I saw wasn't from here."

Philip: And so what we have

here is once again what for

some people might be

a detail, but which for those

who know and those who like to

find out makes a very

different story.

Roswell is one of those things

whereby really there is a

question of belief.

On the one hand you have

family, the Marcel family, the

Blanchards who never

spoken out.

All of these families know and

they know details about the

story which is where the

beauty of the story lies.

You have to believe that they

remember what happened and

what they know is very simple.

It is very basic. It is a

story about that [inaudible

00:15:30]

and a husband who one evening

comes home and says to his

family this is something

you have to see because from

tomorrow onwards I have no

idea what is going to happen.

The American government might

order a cover up or we might

have an announcement

to the world that something

truly extraordinary has

happened, but either

way, I want you my wife and my

son to be the first to know.

Narrator: Every historical

event can be traced back to a

pivotal moment, a moment

in time when everything

changed.

For the Marcel family that

moment was the evening when

Jessie Marcel Sr.

brought home a box of debris

from the crash site.

It is this moment when the

event became real for them and

would be handed down

through each generation.

Jesse Marcel III: My father

looked on one of the Spherical

I-Beams and it was 12

inches 18 inches and there is

a box that might have had a

several pieces of

[inaudible 00:16:35] and they

said you look on there was

like

aluminum beam, I-Beam cross

section and it look like it is

kind of the same material

as the foil parts he also

brought back

and I just had structure to

them right in the bright light

foil and if you look at them

dead on there wasn't anything

at depreciable, but if you all

do an angle

then the symbols will appear

in between the shoulders.

And especially we help to

light a certain way you could

become very perceptible,

they were like a light in a

violet color

and that quite remarked that

you guys are probably the

first ones to ever see this

alien language in history and

no one has ever seen this

before and they, that has

always been interesting part

of the story

and you couldn't see how much

straight on so whatever almost

like a - it hasn't been

said but from what it is

almost like a hologram that

they had to mention only

once you have angled at a

certain degree.

Crescent moons, dashes, dots,

that sort of thing and it like

it took on really

strange appearance.

Jesse Marcel Jr.: There was a

lot of thick foil like

material like shiny

aluminum but very [inaudible

00:18:01] sleep rates have

aluminum.

There is a black plastic type

degree like big light shine at

the room and in there

were fragments that were

behind me,

unfortunately small but the

typical lighting type

configuration.

Philip: so 1947 could have

been the dawn of a new age.

To some extent it was. It was

the age when UFO phenomena

began,

but UFO phenomenon is a

question mark

and 1947 could have been an

answer.

Just out to the Second World

w*r, we could have been told

that after all the

horrors of the Second World

w*r the millions of people who

died that actually

we were not alone in the

universe that this past which

we walked on isn't just

ours but one which is walked

by various sorts of species.

And some of these species come

to planet earth that there is

definitive proof we

are not alone.

Imagine for a brief moment in

time what that world would

look like, but instead

what we have had is 60 more

years of question marks of

cover ups of the miles

and crazy stories told

sometimes by the government

and sometimes by people who

just want to become part of

the Roswell story, but so far

we still have the

question and what Jesse Marcel

and his entire family have

always known is that it

is not about questions.

They know that there are

answers. They have seen it.

They are absolutely convinced

because they know and so when

they tell you that

they know we should take it

for value.

We should take it as is to

choose what Roswell is that

something happened in 1947

in the early days of July.

Something crashed just North

of Roswell and broke into two

pieces.

Jesse Marcel found one piece

and took it home with him and

showed it to his family.

A few days later when that

material was all cleared off

they found the second

crash site containing victims

of the wreck

and at that moment in time our

world changed, because rather

than a public

formation or public awareness

of UFO phenomenon a government

cover up was put

in place.

Roswell remains a question

mark but only if you do not

want to believe that there

is an answer.

Narrator: Under orders from

Col. Blanchard, Jesse Marcel

and a man in plain

clothes took the crash debris

back to the Roswell Airbase.

There it was flown to

Wright-Patterson and

sequestered a way to be

studied.

The broken pieces of the craft

were kept in a secure location

code named the blue

room and the legend of Roswell

was born.

Philip: What is a blue room?

That is question mark success

to whether

or not there is a facility at

Wright-Patterson Airfield

Base,

which really is the container

of everything which your

government doesn't want you to

know.

They said within the blue room

the secrets of UFOs can be

found and some

even suggest that the name

blue room has to do with the

fact that in 1950's there

was a government inquiry

called Project Blue Book which

allegedly went in search

of the truth as to what UFO's

were all about, but in reality

it was just another

cover up.

It is probably no coincidence

that one of the people who was

involved in Project

Blue Book was Roger Ramey, the

guy who in 1947 a few years

later told Jesse Marcel

to deny the truth as to what

happened in Roswell.

He was the one who pushed the

weather balloon into Jesse

Marcel's hands

and basically told him to go

on the record and say that he

had misidentified a weather

balloon as a flying saucer.

Jesse Marcel III: It went in

the hangar team that that was

pretty much the end of

my grandmother's direct

contact material.

You know at that point he was

able to handle it that sort of

thing.

On the side story while all of

this happening there was if

you are called the

debris field was approximately

- the span shape 3-1/4 a mile

long littered fairly

evenly with material. Most

more - the more perceptible

the foil

exceed from the sunshine, but

in a debris field soon after

there was a call.

There was actually a crash

hull of a UFO about 25 miles

away.

Now my grandfather was not

involved in that whatsoever,

he did not see it,

he wasn't part of it, but he

also stood by the people who

saw it.

He said I didn't see it but

people will talk about this.

I believe them. I mean there

is no reason not to believe

his coworkers and the people

in intelligence. He said when

they want to investigate it

you know say why did my

grandfather investigate that

site the biggest became

the military. That was like

compartmentalize things.

They would not want to have

one individual having all of

the information.

So it goes hand-in-hand as to

why he would not have been

part of the second site.

The second site was

interesting.

There is reports of alien

bodies of an alien that

actually lived and through the

crash injured what was alive

and that became a lot of -

there is a lot of the

story that came to it where on

the base that there is medical

work done on

cadavers of aliens and that

sort of thing.

Philip: Major Jesse Marcel

never saw the bodies, but it

is clear that a few days

later bodies were recovered

and so what we have here is a

story of house.

The story of somebody who has

handled material which

absolutely knew was not of

this earth and a few days

later he probably got

confirmation when they found

the bodies that indeed this

material came not from this

planet.

In the 3 weeks following

Roswell, Jesse Marcel was

getting leave and we don't

know

what happened whether he was

put somewhere and questioned

or whether he became part

of the people who was allowed

to investigate the Roswell

crash any further.

But that it is clear that once

he returned to Roswell either

immediately or the

coming weeks that he began to

speak to other people and even

though he probably

didn't get definitive proof as

in another I-Beam in his hands

he probably knew more

than anybody else that what

really happened at Roswell was

precisely what we

are piecing together, the

story of an extraterrestrial

craft, which crash landed

in the desert just north of

Roswell, New Mexico.

Narrator: As researchers began

to delve into the Roswell

story specific facts

started to emerge.

More eye witnesses were

willing to come forward.

The route and locations where

the debris had been taken and

stored was identified

and a clear picture of the

incident slowly formed from

the available information.

Even the man in plain clothes

who travelled with Jesse to

the crash site was identified.

Philip: The man who went with

Jesse Marcel to the crash site

was Sheridan

Cavitt. For a number of years,

he was only known

as Cav and then his name was

identified as man from the

Counterintelligence Crops at

Roswell.

Only in the 1980's that

Sheridan Cavitt began to

relate his side of the story

and he wasn't willing to say

much. Basically, he says early

on that he

wasn't there, that he wasn't

even in Roswell when the

alleged Roswell crash

happened.

He says that Jesse Marcel

wasn't ever there and then

when some inquiries began

to push further. He really

began to open with it and in

1994 he was asked to make an

official comment, the signed

affidavit in which he

said that indeed he had been

there, but that what he had

seem was a weather balloon.

Cavitt was a man of

Counterintelligence, which

basically means she was paid

to lie

and it seems he took this into

the grave.

Brig. General Roger Ramey was

the Head of the 8th Army

Division in Fort Worth.

A few days before Roswell he

actually said that there was

no such thing as UFO's that

what kind of Arnold had seen

over Mt. Rainier in Washington

State were just

misidentifications of

something else.

In 1952 when there was a big

UFO swept over Washington he

would once again say

that there is no truth

whatsoever to UFO phenomenon.

However, it seems that remain

the truth that there was

something to the UFO

phenomenon.

In a press conference of 1947,

he clearly held something in

his hands which the

first two victims of the

wreck.

He is probably principally

responsible or was acting on

orders coming from the

Pentagon that the truth about

UFO's should be covered up and

it seems he was just

a man for the job and in 1952

when Washington gets one of

the biggest waves

of UFO sighting ever seen he

is once again the man on the

job.

He says that the American

people have nothing to fear

about that all of this

is perfectly normal is just

business as usual E.T. doesn't

exist.

Why was Roswell covered up?

Many people have said that it

happened

because the American

government wanted to benefit

somehow from the technology it

had

covered at the crash site, but

I think really what pushed it

home was the fact

that they had to announce that

alien life existed and I think

in 1947 the people

and especially the American

government was simply not

ready to do so.

Various people have to try to

get access to the blue room.

One of them was Senator Barry

Goldwater.

He wrote to the likes of

Curtis Lemay asking for

information and or access to

the blue room.

There were various foundations

as to the reply which Curtis

Lemay gave him.

They differ on the amount

[inaudible 00:29:18] used, but

basically go to what was told

that in no circumstances was

he ever going to see the

inside of the blue room.

Goldwater wasn't acting on his

own, it is a little known fact

that Goldwater was

very good friends with Col.

Blanchard and probably for

many years the two of them

tried to get to the truth as

to what had happened after

Roswell with the debris

which was recovered from the

crash site.

There is a reason why

Goldwater became interested in

Roswell.

It is a little known fact that

Goldwater and Blanchard were

very close friends

and so Goldwater was trying to

use a political angle to get

the American Military to

reveal to him what the truth

about Roswell was and what the

secret of the blue room was.

And so what we have here is a

story which expands decades.

We have our core group once

again.

We know that Blanchard and

Marcel officially never said

E.T or UFO crashed

at Roswell, but we also know

that they knew and behind the

scenes they sometimes

focused to certain people who

they knew or thought they

might help and who they knew

had an interest in the story

as well.

Narrator: The Roswell story

continued to spread behind the

scenes and within the

confines of top secret

circles.

However within the Marcel

family itself, questions ran

deep as well.

Not about the existence of

extraterrestrial life, but the

meaning of

it all. By bringing home

materials from the crash

site Jesse Marcel had set into

motion a quest for

understanding that would

endure

through three generations

beginning with his son Jesse

Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Jr.: Because that

they already know that flying

saucers really

rage knowing realities,

reports and papers, magazines

to a great stories.

I never discussed this with

anybody really.

I had a lot of rules about in

the [inaudible 00:31:28]

of Roswell and I think

[inaudible 00:31:33] that this

was a probe that happen to

land

on our planet or some place

else.

You know we probably got very

unique experience and you know

we just have to be

at the right place at the

right time.

Philip: In those early days,

it never was a question.

It was just the truth. It had

the evidence in that hand and

they

could stare at it. They saw

alien inscriptions and alien

language and then probably

wonder what really had

happened in Roswell whether it

was an accident or whether it

was something more where these

people came from.

And so imagine you have this

evidence in your hand, but you

still have questions.

Jesse Marcel Jr.: Well my

initial reaction is we mostly

support this and the

misidentification of things

that I do know one that was

not all terms of application.

They were again look like the

same type of material at the

foil like material

metallic dull gray aluminum to

very light again.

It is not trying to manage our

stress in many way are all the

in case remembered

what it was about 12 to 18

inches in length and ends

deeper shattered or

working off was a complete

cut.

And the material thickness

appeared about 16th of an

inch.

Now the most unusual part of

this whole thing is what was

going to be driving the

inner surface of an IV.

Once you actually look at it

head on that they appear to be

a type of writing in the

main branch of this writing

was definitely a purplish

violet hue.

It did have an enforced

[inaudible 00:33:31]

because you could [inaudible

00:33:34]

the texture.

I don't recall seeing any

lines or letters in time, but

it was more like geometric

shapes or it is hard to

describe it.

It was curved geometric shape

triangles and circles solid.

Well, I don't recall something

a piece that was greater than

4 to 6 inches instrument.

I don't recall where I try to

test for any material or vivid

or anything like

that and it is very like the

[inaudible 00:34:20] and there

was a lot of that.

Philip: Despite the fact that

Jesse Marcel was forced into a

lie personally

with his family he was always

clear

because it was undeniable that

what he saw and had in his

kitchen that one night in

July 1947 was evidence of

extraterrestrial visitation

and so he raised a family up

with the knowledge that we

were not alone.

His family are probably unique

or at least almost unique on

this planet because

they are the ones who were

raised in an environment where

their parents and their

grandparents knew that what

happened in 1947 was the

existence of extraterrestrial

life.

And so the likes of Jesse

Marcel the III

is spectacular because here we

have a man in his 40's who is

absolutely aware since

birth that we are not alone

and everything is done in his

life, his explorations into

physics, his look upon life

when he looks up to the sky,

he realizes certain things

which none of us can really

grasp because he has been

raised with the absolute

knowledge that we are not

alone.

Jesse Marcel III: It didn't

change. My grandfather didn't

change in any

respect the next 20 something

years.

He didn't really see a change

in his personality at all.

One introspection about that

is that there is a lot of

things about was - he

was scared of the intelligence

that he came in contact with

and that was never

the case. He was more scared

of his own government

than he was of this

intelligence that he come

across.

Narrator: Despite the fear of

any ramifications Jesse Marcel

Sr. may have endured.

He did talk with his family

about the incident.

This usually consisted of

brief conversations over the

years sparked by

some hint line or media event

in the news.

However, Jesse Jr. often

talked with his son about the

pieces he handled and the

infamous I-Beam with alien

text embossed on it.

Later the family would

commission a replica of the

I-Beam so future

generations could see the

detail it contained while in

Roswell Jesse

and Philip discussed the

I-Beam's construction. Jesse

Marcel III: Now, this is the

I-Beam

that we created. It is

basically it is a similar size

that

the width of thickness that

sort of thing that my father

described and the placement

of the symbols along it. The

colors of the symbols are

matching

a violet colors that they

talked about and we are not

quite sure.

We don't have the order and

that kind thing. So this is

representative of what would

it look like. What it would

have felt like as far as

the size goes.

It would have been her

description my much lighter

than this and much stronger

than

this, but it is pretty much.

Philip: And how many did your

grandfather see that were

amongst the wreckage?

Jesse Marcel III: Well my

father had mentioned. He said

that there are about 30

different

symbols to the best of his

recollection. My grandfather

didn't give a precise number.

He talked more about crescents

that faced each other and that

sort of thing.

He did scribble some ideas.

What he remembered along with

my father

of course so about 30 knots

are in order with the sides

cracked up and you know the

kind of the outline is totally

cracked

and how it assembles lie

between the shoulders and the

I-Beam.

In past treatment in talking,

it looks like beyond

speculation, but it might have

been some kind of map.

Narrator: During this

interview, Jesse the third

makes a startling revelation

regarding the I-Beam in that

Col. Blanchard visited Jesse

Sr. a few weeks

after the event and brought

the I-Beam back to the Marcel

home.

Jesse Marcel III: When he

returned. He returned every

piece to the [inaudible

00:38:47]

base. He did exactly as he was

told.

Well some time after that Col.

Blanchard probably to be a

good friend of Blanchard

at his way came over and they

like to play cards with my

grandparents and they played

bridge last week in the

evenings and after everything

was gone the story had died

down Col. Blanchard had

brought over a piece of an

I-Beam.

And my father talking about

it, you remember him standing

in - you remember

standing in over the sink in

the kitchen and the light

coming through the window

and taking a look at it.

There is a big question where

that I-Beam appears to stay

with my grandfather

knowing the importance of it.

I am not quite sure if it is

the

Blanchard had more of it than

maybe somewhere there is more,

but on that side

to, but there is a good

possibility that my

grandfather retained that

piece.

Philip: And so this is pretty

much it looked like should I

go back to the Marcel

household.

Jesse Marcel III: Exactly.

This is what he would have

brought and sat

over the kitchen sink with my

grandfather looking into the

light coming into the

kitchen window. Philip: And

you can imagine why he

specifically wanted to keep

this one because it shows that

first of all it

is not human and nobody would

do this. It looks the

unworldly.

There are 33 symbols on there

which suggest that they knew

what they were up

to necessarily we knew what

they were up

to and it is really the

perfect testament that

whatever happened in Roswell.

It is what everybody knows it

is which is not of this earth.

Jesse Marcel III: Yeah, it

really is fascinating. I like

obviously the silver foil will

probably only some interesting

after awhile to actually see

the symbols

and also be able to like you

know in a real one were you

would have to look at on

another angle to we will see

it than there was no

indication of the symbols

being there.

In fact, I didn't see them

eventually just happen to hold

it and the light

is bright even they are there

so definitely very

fascinating.

Philip: So when did it happen.

How long after Roswell did it

happen that

you can think was graced with

designing.

Jesse Marcel III: I can't be

exact other than I know it was

more than a month after

the original crash as far

after that I could tell you,

but it was definitely

after the return from their 3

weeks of where they went to.

Philip: So basically this

little incident in the kitchen

is very interesting because

they allow you to have two men

who have been involved into

something.

They don't become involved

into the cover up of this

something to realize that for

the rest of their lives they

really can't talk about this

anymore, but they have to

snuggle close to get together.

Jesse Marcel III: Yeah.

Philip: In the kitchen

somewhere and I think. Hey

look.

Jesse Marcel III: This is

real. This happened.

Philip: This is real and to an

extent this being kept by

Blanchard and being

passed down into the family

tradition or whatever happens

to this you know the fact

that something escaped they

always say that like no mater

how much there has been

a m*ssacre. There is always

one person who survives

and gets out and this is like

the thing which got away from

the grass to the government.

Jesse Marcel III: That is

exactly right. Philip: Which

can still be out there

somewhere, which definitely

survives like the initial

swing back in 1947 and again

for those 2 men after having

realized that the indicative

part of the largest story

ever, they became probably the

largest conspiracy ever for

them to kind of like

sit down and kind of like

probably they said something

in the lines we didn't

imagine.

Jesse Marcel III: You think

that conversation would have

almost had taken

place like this - yeah, it is

like we didn't imagine this,

this is something

that happened and this is part

of it,

pretty incredible.

He was a hand radio operator

just loved to communicate with

people he never seen,

never talked here from all

over the world and again it

was a good part of his life.

He didn't change much during

those years. I actually think

he had changed more in

the early 70's than he did in

the previous 20 to 25 years

after the event.

The man that I remembered in

my youngest, my youngest

memories was someone who had

a great deal of weight in his

shoulders you know on a

personal level.

I have [inaudible 00:44:08]

him in tears on his couch head

in hands

talking about all the people

he had k*lled in the Second

World w*r although the hit

drop in the b*mb, word was

dropped that it was his fault

that there haven't been

a better way to do it. You

know he really suffered deeply

from

that and he had also pressure

from way down and then when

you add Roswell on top

of that s here is - he was

questioning his very you know

that was moral fiber but

worker's actions, where his

actions something he is gong

to pay for with his

very soul.

After everything he had done

for our military he decided he

wanted to separate

himself and he actually

destroyed his medals. That he

gets at wondering the w*r was

perceiving the w*r.

And I don't remember him

talking much about his

military career after that.

He just had had enough.

And the likes of that is where

he had taken off all weight of

the second world

w*r in Roswell by himself to

see that he was never wanting

to say well he was part

of a team. He was a cog.

He almost put himself in that

position to take all the heat,

all the weight and what

had happened.

Narrator: Over the years

various metals have surfaced

and were proclaimed to be

debris from Roswell.

None of it has never been

verified.

So is it possible that Col.

Blanchard sequestered a way

some of the artifacts

from the Roswell crash?

If Col. Blanchard retained one

of the I-Beams where is it

today?

Did he leave an I-Beam with

Jessie Marcel

perhaps as a token memorial or

could Blanchard have kept a

piece for himself.

Jesse Marcel III: I believe

that there is still a piece of

it out there.

That there as the story goes

is late at night wrap our -

all the material put in

the box and leaves my

grandmother opens up the

backdoor and sweeps out a

little

pieces that are left. They go

on the ground and eventually

they

concrete pad or support and

they might still be there

today or might not be

and that sort of thing.

That piece that Blanchard has

had looked at my grandfather

with Blanchard have more

than one piece that he keeps

behind himself was that one

way of him giving

a piece back to my grandfather

because he is very well aware

I mean he was and it works.

It all comes back you know. I

would speculate that he still

has that

piece and that okay what my

grandfather have done with it.

Where it might be somewhere

where I won't buy in

Louisiana.

Who else can you trust to

bring over a piece of the

debris that he should have

had because obviously the same

with Blanchard should have

been able to keep

a piece of it, but yeah, he

did and by him will it be

willing to go with my

grandfather and still

obviously was a trust there to

look at it and go through it.

There was a very slim - and I

would have no doubt that they

became closer after that.

Philip: So the story of

Roswell is really basic and it

is the story of a family,

a few families and what they

knew that a question can we

accept it.

The American government has

since put so many more layers

to the story simply

because they know that at

heart it is a very basic story

and we you want people to

doubt it. They want people to

question and if they

succeed in putting questions

to the story then they have

won.

Jesse Marcel III: And the idea

that the blue room was created

to contain and guard

this information, a place that

was obviously of to be

admitted the blue room

to be able to see the debris

with you had to be of certain

level of government there

with the blue room created to

hide the debris the alien

debris, the alien

technology was perhaps the

most guarded secret in all of

the world.

It matching it [inaudible

00:48:28] program, it is

always interesting that

think back that why would the

blue room

and this is just a little bit

of research that the blue room

is an hanger 18.

The number 18 is the atomic

symbol for Argon which burns

blue.

Argon is also used to

eliminate oxygen if you want

to protect something from

oxygen

you would bathe it in Argon.

And it is interesting how all

it later

came up project bluebook

always makes it is interesting

how it in a way how this

all pieces together had maybe

saw a coincidence and maybe

not, but it was -

the blue room was the site

that was born out of Roswell

of this crash site.

Narrator: No one knows if the

Roswell debris is still hidden

in the blue room at

Wright-Patterson or if it has

been moved to Area 51 or any

number of secret vaults

the government controls nor do

we know if it is still being

studied though that

would seem logical.

We do know the legacy of

Roswell will be with us for

some time to come and in time

more revelations about that

faithful day may still be

gleamed from sources close to

the story such as the Marcel

and Blanchard family.

Jesse Marcel III: We have some

documents that were his

private personal and there

is an aberration in them in

this writing style right by

the time this happened

and we are going to seek out

some ourselves we are not

going to be too.

We are not professionals to

look at and tell us that it

might be the craziest

thought or is there actually

some here and my premises that

he left bread crumbs.

There is, there is a lot of

story left.

Philip: Imagine a world to

which our parents told us that

in 1947 beings from

another world crashed landed

that ever since we live with

the knowledge that we

are not alone.

That is a vastly different

world and in my opinion the

vastly more beautiful world

than the ones we live in right

now where we are trying to

peel back layers of an

onion trying to catch the

truth.

The truth of the Marcel family

is that it happened.

The Marcel family is primary

evidence,

primary eye witness people who

held this material in their

hands.

One of their endearing moments

is Maj. Jesse Marcel and

Blanchard one evening in

the kitchen over the kitchen

sink holding an I-Beam in

their hands and saying,

do you remember this.

This is what is real and this

5 millions of people who will

never know and the

government who is trying to

deny that this ever happened.

What I am holding in my hand

and what I am showing to you

is definitive proof of

what happened?

We did not know what happened

to the I-Beam.

Maybe Jesse Marcel bright in

it somewhere or maybe it is in

the possession of

Blanchard.

I am pretty sure he never gave

it back to the government

unless he was really

instructed to give it back and

as far as we can tell the

government never knew

about it until old people

involved had died and decades

had passed.

So the chances of evidence of

Roswell having happened out

there with people or

an environment where we can

get to it is good.

Narrator: The Marcel family

has continued to search for

their grandfather's diary

and records. Recently, after

sh**ting the interviews

for this documentary Jesse the

III located Marcel's Senior's

lost journals from his

time at the 509th Airbase.

The journal reveals that

Marcel Senior knew much more

about the incident

and there is evidence that

Jessie Marcel Sr. did in fact

hide some of the wreckage from

the crash and it has been

hidden away for decades.

Jesse Marcel III: If there is

still information began in all

four drops

and government documents, that

sort of thing but I just want

to think about being at

the center because we do have

some of those 5 documents.

He actually wrote part of a

book to start out with.

He kept a diary.

It is more a big journal's

entry of different. It works

like a history book entries.

Whatever who is interested it

is not only what you thought

about and you know there

might be some information

there might have buried

something in there and I want

to

see where that goes.

Philip: I became interested in

Roswell in the early 1990's

and still many others

and for many years, decades

now I had various questions.

Certain things about Roswell

just didn't make sense.

It is clear that the American

government is lying, but about

what?

For the answer, we need to go

back to the Marcel family

because they since 1947 are

the primary people involved

and the primary holders of

this Holy Grail of equality.

The other ones who know that

what happened in 1947 in

Roswell, New Mexico

is real, that an ETBA was

recovered,

that something out of this

world crash lend then.

They know because they handled

the material themselves.

For 30 years they kept quiet

for the last 30 years they

have done their best to tell

the world that they are unique

witnesses

to one of the most unique

advance ever in human history

the existence of

extraterrestrial beings the

fact that we are alone in the

universe.

The key message of Roswell is

that we are not alone and this

is a message which

lives in our hearts and which

is cherished by so many.

That for so many more it

requires validation and that

validation will never

come from the scientific

community because by the very

nature of the beast Roswell

can only be validated by

officialdom, by the U.S

government.

And so to put that final stamp

of approval that something

happened in 1947 will truly

change mankind forever and at

that moment in time we will no

longer become global

citizens which universal

citizens.

I personally cannot wait for

that moment to happen.

Jesse Marcel III: In the end I

have no doubt that we or

somebody else will find

a piece of it some way, that

it just in the information

atrium that there is somebody

will come forward, a piece of

evidence will be found.

If it is there one of two

things will happen.

A civilian will find it or the

government will find it either

way, and I can't

imagine that there isn't a

piece that is still out there

somewhere.