01x56 - Episode 56

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NARRATOR: Right now on a live edition of "Big

Brother," find out who'll be banished if we get that far.

All six HouseGuests have threatened

to leave the house tonight.

Are we going to walk or what?

We got a chance to change history.

NARRATOR: It's all happening now on "Big Brother."

[theme music]

Hi.

I'm Julie Chen.

The big news of the week is the "Big Brother" rebellion.

Over the weekend, all six HouseGuests, led by George,

made a pack to walk out on tonight's show.

Here's what happened since then.

In terms of the game, we forfeit.

In terms of ourselves, we win.

You've got to own it no matter what the reaction is

out there or with anybody else.

It's do you feel good about the decision here.

That's it. - Absolutely.

That's it.

It's amazing how, in a matter of an hour,

the entire house has changed just boom, like that.

We all came to a decision.

That was really interesting.

And I do want to make sure it's the right one.

I guess I have a slight internal conflict

in terms of quitting a show.

If one person in this house is even just slightly wavering,

abstain.

We won't do it.

Because it doesn't work if even just

one person's waivering. - Ain't a lie.

Exactly.

Because no one was wavering from the beginning.

I don't know what to do.

I think we can accomplish all of our goals and our needs

and we can meet them all by staying.

I've decided to stay.

I'm not even sure I really decided to go before.

Are you guys individually now leaning

towards you have decided you don't

want to walk on Wednesday? - Yeah.

OK.

There's nothing wrong with being here.

You don't think I'm leaving Wednesday?

Yeah, I know you are, and that's why

I didn't want to say anything.

I'm walking out the door Wednesday.

But there's no reason for you to leave, George.

Let's find out if George and the other HouseGuests

still mean business.

Hey, everyone.

Hi, Julie.

Hello, Julie.

How you guys doing?

Oh, just great.

Everyone's in normal attire tonight, I see.

Yep.

No fatigues.

Yep.

Well, HouseGuests, over the last few days,

you all talked about leaving.

We've seen you all change your minds a few times.

Let me ask you, George.

How come always me, Julie?

JULIE: Because.

You know why, George.

What's it going to be tonight?

Are you going to walk or not?

Well, my decision influenced two

other people's in this house.

I had no right to do that.

OK, the chicken man's staying.

JULIE: Well, George, it was originally

your idea for everyone to walk in the first place.

Are you disappointed with the group's decision not to walk?

Not at this point, no.

JULIE: OK.

Well, we're all glad that you've decided to stay.

So now let's get down to business.

Last week, you all turned down a suitcase

filled with $, in cash.

Well, now there's another suitcase in the Red Room.

Josh, would you please do me the honors?

Go get it, Josher.

JULIE: Go on in the Red Room and bring it on out.

- Well, go for it. - Slacker.

Come here, Pugita.

Pugita.

Come here, girl.

Pugita.

Pugita, come here.

Come here, baby.

It's light.

It'll probably just have car keys in it, man.

JULIE: All right, Josh, if you would please place the suitcase

in front of George.

Why me again?

JULIE: Because we like you, George.

Yeah, right.

JULIE: Because you know how to do this so well.

Go ahead, George.

I'm sure you remember [interposing voices]..

Yes. Are you ready, Julie?

JULIE: Yeah. Go ahead and open it up.

Here we go.

What is it?

JULIE: Now, let me explain.

For some time now, the banners in the sky

have been a part of your lives.

Now it's your turn.

You can create any message you want as long as it's

no more than characters.

You have two minutes to write your message

and return it to the Red Room in the suitcase.

Now, this is your chance to fly your own message.

And if everything goes according to plan,

we'll see your banner flying later in the show.

HouseGuests, I'll be checking back with all

of you a little bit later.

I think George could--

Stay with us.

NARRATOR: Still ahead, which HouseGuest will be banished,

Cassandra, Curtis, or Eddie?

Plus, a HouseGuest gets his first taste of

the outside world at the Emmys.

Curtis walks the red carpet when "Big Brother" continues.

I'm Brittany's dad.

And we're here at Cuzzy's bar tonight

to welcome Brittany home, but also because it's her birthday.

Oh my god!

[inaudible] use that!

I always do these goofy cakes.

And with Britt, you have to have a goofy cake.

With the green hair and the TV and the glitter--

that's typically Britt.

I haven't gone on a walk by myself.

I haven't sat by myself.

I really haven't had a chance to absorb anything yet.

Go Brittany!

Brittany loves the attention.

"Big Brother"?

I don't have any regrets.

Yeah, if I had another chance, I'd probably do it different,

but it turned out good, so what can you say?

I'm having a great time now.

Welcome back.

And a very happy birthday to former HouseGuest Brittany.

FYI, the HouseGuests have given us their message.

Right now it's being transferred to a banner,

and later we'll see it flying in the sky.

Now, this week one of our HouseGuests

got a very special treat.

As the winner of a challenge, Curtis went where

no HouseGuest has gone before--

out of the house.

And not just anywhere.

He spent the night at one of Hollywood's grandest affairs.

Just a day at the Emmys.

I didn't think in a million I'd going to the Emmys.

And I didn't think in a million years I'd actually

be on a television show myself.

So it's a world of firsts for me.

Biggest thing I'm most looking forward to

is just being outside, seeing the people-- seeing people

other than all my HouseGuests and just

experiencing the world, I guess, with fresh eyes now.

I guess I'm waiting on getting out of here in just a second.

I'm all looking for celebrities.

Yeah, I'm a little nervous to jump out there.

I don't know what to expect at all.

But more than anything, I'm totally

excited to get out there.

I would've never dreamed that I'd be going up the red carpet

at the Emmys, not at all.

So I'm just going to try to soak in every moment

and enjoy it, definitely.

Curtis!

Curtis!

Curtis!

When I walked out of there, I was on the red carpet

and heard people yelling my name.

That's a first.

Just being there, it's just awesome.

I don't even know how to put it into words really.

How long can you stay out tonight?

I think my slippers turned back into pumpkins

and all of that after the show.

You have to go right back?

I'm going back after the show.

I cannot wait, in a way, to go back to the house and tell

all my HouseMates about it.

I wish this night could last longer,

but I kind of can't wait to go and tell everybody

how exciting this was.

Joining us now is our health and relationship

specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky.

Dr. Drew, welcome. - Thank you, Julie.

I want to talk about what we just saw.

Right. JULIE: Curtis at the Emmys.

Curtis a natural on that red carpet.

Did you see him?

JULIE: Wasn't he?

He handled it very well in stride.

But this is the first time we've seen a non-banished HouseGuest

venture out of the house.

Curtis went from being cut off from the outside world

for days to one of the biggest

media events in the country.

How did that change the dynamics in the house?

Well, it seemed to have refueled Curtis.

He had a very positive experience.

I think it helped him feel more positive about his "Big

Brother" experience overall.

I suspect, as a result of sort of that connection

and that contact with the outside world,

we're going to see him thinking for himself a little more.

It helps him distance himself from that terribly

enmeshed group that they've got going there.

And he can begin thinking for himself.

He feels positive about things.

And I suspect this week we're going to see

some more self-assertion.

I think we'll see him maybe confronting

his peers more, thinking for himself a little more.

I mean, he's a terrific intellect,

and he is beginning to emerge as a leader in the group

if he really would assert himself more.

All because of this trip out of the house?

No.

I mean, the seeds were sown before he left.

But now that he's sort of refueled and feels good and is,

sort of, I think we'll see him have

a positive week as a result.

Now I want to spend some time talking about what happened

this weekend with George.

How is it that George was able to persuade five other people

to walk out of the house?

Temporarily.

I mean, that was the plan.

They were all going to walk out on tonight's live broadcast.

Again, it seems strange to those of us that

don't have the perspective of confinement,

doesn't it, that he could persuade people so rapidly,

and ideas that seem sort of outlandish

to those of us that are watching from the outside.

But you've got to remember there's several issues here.

One is that they all feel kind of powerless as a result

of their confinement.

George particularly seems to be struggling with gaining

control over his environment.

He has a lot of feelings about this.

The other issue is that the group itself is very connected,

very enmeshed, and people tend to infect

one another with their feelings in that group.

And when George gets up and is impassioned and has

very strong feelings about it, it tends

to infect the entire group.

Even Eddie, who has been able to maintain good boundaries

and think for himself, seemed to be persuaded today.

JULIE: That's right.

He was the last one to be persuaded.

But he did join the rest.

He actually caved in.

And now, when he was able to get outside of that moment

when they were all sharing their feelings,

he started becoming confused.

Was I feeling that way?

Was I not feeling that way?

He seemed to have been swept into the moment.

And when he got outside of it and started

thinking for himself, he realized it wasn't

really what he wanted to do.

Now I want to talk about the multiple banners that have

been flying over the house.

No doubt that's had some kind of effect

on the dynamics in the house.

But talk to me about the psychological effects.

Well, the banners are interesting.

The banners seem to be like another character in the house,

don't they?

They call the banner the sky and they

talk about how they feel about the sky

as though it's a separate person.

Do they trust him? Do they distrust him?

Do they believe him?

Who is it?

Yeah, who is the sky But I think

more significantly what the sky does

is add an element of anxiety to the house.

It heightens anxiety.

In other words, they never know when the sky is going to visit.

They never know what it's going to say.

It tends to say things that are rather evocative.

So it's unsettling, the sky.

Is it a good thing we let them, earlier in the show,

make their own banner?

Absolutely, I think so.

Again, as I've mentioned, empowerment and control

are big issues for the household right now,

and this gives them a chance to respond to something that makes

them feel even less powerful--

this sky that sort of comes upon them at whim.

They can now respond to that.

Great.

Dr. Drew Pinsky, thank you so much.

Always a pleasure talking to you.

Thank you.

And we'll be right back.

NARRATOR: Coming up, Jamie's friends stick up for her.

They see the makeup and they think, oh,

there's another beauty queen.

I'm sure she's pretty dumb.

She's not.

She's smart.

NARRATOR: As "Big Brother" continues.

The reason everybody's here tonight

is because Jamie is Hollywood.

This is Planet Hollywood.

We wanted everybody to know that we support her.

We care about her.

They see the makeup.

They see her blonde highlights.

And think, oh, there's another beauty queen.

I'm sure she's pretty dumb.

She's not.

She's smart.

I think that Jamie needs to stop

worrying about whether or not her lips are shiny.

We actually have a pool going in our department about how long

she's going to stay on the show.

Welcome back.

Nice to see that Jamie's friends in Seattle

are behind her all the way.

All right.

In just a moment, a HouseGuest will be banished.

But first a little cleaning up to do.

"Big Brother" supplied the HouseGuests

with just about everything they needed except a housekeeper.

Now, remember, this is a very back-to-basics house,

but the guests, well, they take pride in keeping it

up for themselves and for you.

We're going to have to spend a day and clean this place up.

Man, our room does smell.

It's getting really kind of bad in here.

[music playing]

I'll be up nice and early to do chores with you.

Pfft.

They have managed to form a very

close-knit community in there, but now

it's time to shake things up.

Hi, everyone. - Hello.

Hi, Julie.

JULIE: Well, the time has come to announce this week's

banished HouseGuest.

And it was a very tight race between two of you.

Eddie, you had % of the vote.

OK.

JULIE: Cassandra, you had %.

Cassandra, I'm sorry, but you've been banished.

You have two minutes to say your goodbyes

and I'll let you know when your time is up.

OK.

OK, g*ng.

I'll miss you.

Love y'all.

I'll see you out there, OK?

All right.

Take care.

Take care.

Hang in here, guys.

Behave yourself.

Chicken Man.

You don't know what the time has meant.

[inaudible].

Take care. - You too.

I'll be seeing you.

Yeah, you better.

OK, g*ng.

Hold on.

OK.

You're OK?

Yeah?

Cassandra.

God.

You guys take care.

Stay cool.

All right.

Have fun.

Pugita, come here, baby.

Oh sh**t.

I'll get him.

Come here. - Hold on.

Come here.

Come here, you.

Holy [muted].

OK.

See you.

Go get 'em.

Goodbye, miss, you're looking really good.

OK.

Y'all take care.

Hang in.

[inaudible] if you could just keep the door open.

Go get 'em, Cassandra.

Woo!

Cassandra's great!

Bye!

We love you!

Love y'all!

Bye!

I'm here, [inaudible]!

She's coming.

She's coming.

[cheering]

Bless you!

You did so great.

So proud of you.

You were so great.

Hi, honey.

How you doing?

Oh my god!

Oh, you did something wonderful.

[inaudible]?

Everybody.

Really?

It's beautiful.

[cheering]

There's a lot of people out there.

Wow.

Listen to the yells.

[whistling]

[whistling]

Wow.

Pugita, Pugita, Pugita, Pugita.

Pugita, come on, baby.

Come here, baby. Come here.

Come here, baby.

Come here.

[whistling]

It's OK.

- Welcome back. - Yeah.

Right.

And then there were five.

[muted]

Well, half the house is gone.

Only two more to go.

Then the game will be over.

They're still yelling for her.

It's great.

As America waits maybe just another week

for the heartthrob Curtis.

Man.

At max, America will only be deprived.

You did great, honey.

Hi, everybody.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi, Julie.

We have some other people who want to see you.

You did awesome!

You did us proud!

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

You did us proud!

You did awesome!

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

You did us proud.

Class.

- Oh my god. - Class.

Class. Bless you.

Bless you. Bless you.

You did us proud.

We'll let Cassandra enjoy her reunion

with her friends and family.

But when we come back, we'll show her

what she looked like on TV and find out what she has to say

about her time in the house.

Stay with us.

Welcome back.

I'm here with Cassandra, who in her own words, quote,

"took the game as far as she could take it."

Welcome, Cassandra.

Thank you.

Before we get started, I just to thank your mom, your cousin,

your two girlfriends for coming in from the East Coast

to support you tonight.

Great to have them here.

How do you feel right now?

Well, the welcome that I've gotten here is so warm.

I want to thank everybody for that.

I feel great to be here among so many friends.

Obviously, I'm worried about my HouseMates,

and I'm always concerned about the well-being of the house.

And I'm kind of sad to leave them.

But it's great to see my mom, my cousin, and my friends.

What do you mean you're worried

about your former HouseMates?

Well, it's just that we're kind of like a family, as well,

and whenever you lose somebody, the house

goes through a couple of days of downtime, a little bit

of a depression until they get themselves back together

in terms of a normal rhythm.

And now there are so few people there,

the house is starting to get lonely.

And I'm very concerned that Jamie's

the only woman there now, so her room is going to be so lonely.

Well, I want you to look at the screen

because this is a live picture of what's

going on in the house. - I know.

Jamie definitely looks sad-- sadder.

Yeah, but she's a strong woman, so she'll be fine.

But they're all very tough people,

so I think they're all going to be fine.

But of course, I would love to be there with them

to ride to the end, anyway.

JULIE: Any particular HouseGuest that you

are worried about for the time being,

taking this harder than someone else?

No.

I think they'll all be fine, frankly, because they're

very cohesive now.

And the group is very dedicated, each one to the other, so I

think they'll be all right.

They'll come together and be able to get

over this just fine.

Now, it's interesting that you refer to your former HouseMates

as your family-- a type of family--

because when you first entered the "Big Brother"

house, it seemed as if you isolated

yourself from the others.

You didn't want to participate in everything

that was going on in the house.

But then, as the weeks went on, you

really embraced everyone and became part

of the "Big Brother" family.

What changed?

Well, I don't think it's that anything changed.

I think, in the beginning, I was still trying to figure

things out, figure people out.

And I'm very cautious.

And I certainly didn't want to be involved in anything

that I felt was inappropriate for myself.

I'm rather conservative, as I'm sure the public has found out,

and I just wanted to be sure that the things I was getting

involved in were right for me.

I think I had a very good bilateral relationship

with everybody in the house.

And where there were activities that I

felt weren't right for me, I just didn't participate.

But I have to say that I think everybody in the house

respects me, and they all knew they could come to me

when they needed to for advice or support

or whatever it may be.

And as the weeks went on, we just became more cohesive.

And there was less tension.

In the beginning, there was a lot of bickering

and what have you, and I had to do a lot of refereeing

of those kinds of things.

But as the weeks went on, things calmed down quite a bit,

so it was easier for me to let my guard down.

And one final point on that.

I think that the house really needed me to kind of be strong

and even.

Well, now that you are gone as that strong and even kind

of caretaker of the group, what do you think's

going to happen to the dynamic? - They'll be fine.

You know what happens?

Whenever someone leaves, someone else steps up to the plate

to take over their role.

JULIE: Who's going to step up to the plate?

It will probably be Jamie, as the only woman,

because also she was one who everyone used

to go to for advice, as well.

Obviously, she's much younger than I am.

But a lot of HouseMates would also

go to her to talk through their issues and their problems.

But what I found also--

as the weeks have gone on, the group meets more

regularly to talk about issues.

So you have fewer bilateral interactions.

Like if I have a problem, I might go and talk to George

about it or whomever, whomever.

Now what's happening is we sit down as a house

and talk about whatever my issue may be.

And that might be better, actually, because it doesn't

put the onus on any one person.

JULIE: In this last round of nominations,

Jamie nominated you.

Both of you have said individually you would like

to see a woman win this thing, yet you nominated

each other in this last around.

What's your reaction to the fact that Jamie nominated you?

I'm not surprised at all.

I've said from the very beginning,

and I hope the public has seen this

and believe that I felt it from the heart.

It's difficult to nominate people,

but it's part of the game.

It's something that we had to do.

And eventually, you're going to have to say everyone's name.

So I wouldn't hold any grudges.

I wouldn't be shocked because they've

got to nominate somebody.

And certainly, in my case, the reason

I nominated Jamie, as you know, is because I didn't think

anybody else was going to nominate

her so I thought she was safe.

So it was kind of like a throwaway--

JULIE: But is that a good reason to nominate someone?

Well, I had another reason, as well, as you know.

But I also felt--

you begin to feel loyal to people.

And you begin to feel like, I just don't want to do

anything to hurt these people.

So it gets very difficult.

JULIE: Now, the other reason was that you

didn't feel she was pulling her weight around the house.

So were you strategizing?

No.

I didn't really have a strategy, frankly.

Why?

Don't you want the half mil-- didn't

you want the half million?

It wasn't for the money. It was--

JULIE: For the experience.

It was for the experience, certainly.

And I've said often that my job, my career

has been quite exciting.

I've done a lot of wonderful things in my life,

and it was difficult to find something

else that would challenge me.

And this certainly did.

So that's why I came to "Big Brother."

Well, for weeks now, millions of viewers

have been watching you and the others live

in the "Big Brother" house.

Well, tonight it's your chance.

OK.

Take a look.

All right.

Home sweet home.

Look at this place, you guys!

Well, all I'm saying is you've got

to lay off of that sometimes.

You've got to allow people to just be who they are.

I'm trying to get people to open up.

People are opening up, but they're

reacting to you in a certain way because they think you're

a certain kind of brother.

Big Brother, Big Brother, won't you jump in.

Cassandra will kick your a*s.

I think that you have a responsibility not

to stress everybody out /.

[dominoes dropping]

I have a little bit of a boo-boo that I have to fix.

OK, mozzarella and cheddar.

[dominoes dropping]

Oh no!

No!

OK, you guys, I'm stopping.

OK, talk to me. Talk to me.

Talk to me.

I think we're arriving at a point

where people don't see you nominating

them as a personal affront.

There's only six other people other than you.

But you need to take care of your mom,

so I'm telling you right now, I'm

going to stray away from nominating you till the end

if I have to.

In the other "Big Brother" shows in Europe,

no woman has ever won, And I think it would

be amazing for a woman to win.

We know that there is a good chance that I'm the one

who would be gone on Wednesday.

I have done a very good job, I think, up until now

in just not getting involved in the drama.

Cassandra, you can join us if you want.

Thank you very much.

I'm quite fine.

I'm a -year-old black professional.

I cannot do things like sleep in the love bed with -year-olds.

It's just not who I am.

All right, Cassandra.

What did you think?

That's hilarious.

I have to say, when I was going through all that stuff,

it was always so funny, but it's great looking back on it

and remembering all of those moments.

That's nice to hear.

That's nice to hear. - It is.

Now, you said once in the Red Room

that you thought you were the most

vulnerable person in the house.

Clearly.

What did you mean by that?

Well, certainly-- you asked me earlier about why I

was so isolated from the group.

Certainly, because of who I am, where I come from,

and the kind of work I do, I made

a strategic decision early on as to how I

was going to live in the house.

And that meant not participating in all the Don barbecues.

That meant not sleeping in the love bed.

That meant pulling myself out of some of the activities that

were going on, as I said earlier,

that just weren't right for me and that I might be concerned

would be seen in a negative light outside of the house.

And so obviously, I didn't get as close to the group

as I could have as other people did, and that's fine.

That's a calculated risk that I took.

And it paid off until now, and now I'm paying for that.

But that's fine.

I felt that it was easier for people to nominate me

because they didn't feel as close to me, and I knew that.

That's fine.

So why didn't you try and chum up to people a little bit,

knowing that they might hold that against you?

You know what?

That's just not who I am.

I could not make myself do things that I felt were not me.

JULIE: So you felt the person that you were in the house

is the person that you are outside of the house?

You lived your life the way you would anywhere?

Absolutely.

Having the cameras there didn't

change your behavior at all?

Well, obviously, I was always aware of the camera presence.

And I used to get irritated when they'd

be following me to the bathroom or whatever it was.

JULIE: Understandably so.

Yeah, understandably so.

But I always was concerned about,

OK, if I were on the outside, how would I be behaving now?

And if my mother could see me, would she

be upset with what I'm doing?

And the camera, for me, was like my mom's eye,

you know what I mean?

Now, you said you were doing it for the experience.

What do you mean by that?

And did you get the experience you were looking for?

Yeah.

I was looking for something to test myself, something

that was a challenge for me.

And I certainly did.

I mean, I grew a lot from this.

I didn't change in the house, obviously.

I think I remain the same person.

But I learned a lot about myself.

And I certainly had an opportunity

to get close to a group of people

that I really care about.

Now, obviously, my relationship with each one of them

is different than the relationship between the nine.

But I felt very good about having

an opportunity to spend such an intense period with them.

I want to talk to you some more,

so stick around because when we come back,

we'll ask Cassandra if she regrets not taking the money

when she had the chance.

Stay with us.

Welcome back.

We're here speaking with Cassandra,

the latest banished HouseGuest from the "Big Brother" house.

Now, last week, everyone was made an offer of $, cash

if they would walk out of the "Big Brother" house

right then and there.

You didn't do it.

And I told you that you could do it after you knew that you

were marked for banishment.

Do you regret not taking that money now?

Not at all.

For me, it was a question of integrity.

I wanted to ride things out as far as I could.

I didn't want to be bought.

I didn't want to sell my soul, basically.

And I felt that if I took the $,,

I'd basically be saying that that's

what the experience was worth.

And to me, it was priceless.

And I certainly didn't want to give the public

the impression-- it's very important to me

what people think, as well--

to give the public the impression that you can throw

a few dollars in my face and I would

be willing to just basically tell you, yes,

you can have my soul for that.

It was very important to me.

But is that because you are financially set?

I mean, if one of the others-- say George,

who has expressed he needs the money-- if he had taken that,

would you have thought that of him?

No.

As you know, we had a deep discussion

about this in the house.

And one of the things I said was that I

would never criticize anyone else for making that decision.

For me, it was not the right one.

Obviously, $, in my life would

make a huge, huge difference.

I'm not financially set.

But it was not right for me at that moment.

And I made the decision that I felt was appropriate.

How much do you think, that night

when I made that proposal--

some people were thinking about doing it--

but cave to public pressure?

Pressure from the other HouseGuests?

They didn't want to look like quitters

in front of the others.

Certainly, no one wants to look like a quitter,

but we had been talking about this for about hours

because, as you know, we had gotten a heads up

from an outside source.

And I think that everyone had settled in their own minds.

Now, I don't know whether it was because of pressure,

but I believe that they all felt convinced at that time

that that was not the right amount.

Maybe there are people who were holding

out for a larger amount.

I don't know.

And that would be fine, too.

But I think that people just felt that was

not worth the experience.

In any event, we would all have at least one more week,

bringing us up to today, when someone else would be banished,

so they felt that the experience was more worthwhile.

Now, watching you live in the house,

there were times where you seemed as if you

were holding back from expressing what

was going through your mind.

We have a few examples of that and we want you to take a look.

I think racism in America is not really a major problem.

It's gotten a lot better since the 's

and mostly the 's and the civil rights movements

and this and that.

I just-- I don't feel it's a problem.

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JULIE: Now you laugh.

I think that, in addition to being someone

that the black community will be really proud of,

I think that the bigger effect is

what it's done for the white community

and what it's done for the public in general.

And if you think about it, when you look at white America

and the type of examples like you that white America has,

I think that we're still trying to get to the point

where it's the rule, not the exception.

Well, Cassandra, were you holding

back in those instances?

I probably was.

And I think that was also a strategic decision in the sense

that, number one, I had to survive in the house.

I had to live there.

I wasn't just on a television show.

This was my life.

And I needed to speak when I felt it was appropriate.

Now, if Eddie doesn't believe racism exists,

there's nothing I can say to tell him

that racism exists in America.

JULIE: But if someone said that to you outside of the "Big

Brother" house--

I might have dealt with it differently.

But I have to tell you that you have

to pick and choose the moments.

I didn't always feel that the discussions that we had,

the group discussions that we had,

were the right time to say different things,

particularly with a character like Eddie.

I think you have to wait for a bilateral opportunity

to talk to him about those kinds of issues.

It wasn't going to be constructive

for me to go at him in front of the group like that.

As it turns out, I didn't have an opportunity

to do anything more about that, but I

had to choose the opportunities that I felt were appropriate.

I did not share everything of myself in the house

because I felt sometimes that I wanted to hold

on to something for myself.

I felt that the house might not have been ready for everything

I had to say, also.

I felt that I was in a unique position,

being the only black woman, the only -something

in the house, and for several weeks, for eight weeks,

the only black in the house.

So I needed to just be very intelligent about the kinds

of things that I shared with my HouseMates.

I want to ask you about--

from the moment you found out you were marked for banishment,

you were convinced that you were going

to be the banished HouseGuest.

Why?

Well, there were a few things.

First of all, as you know, I'm a realist,

so you always need to prepare yourself for the worst.

And so I did that every time.

But I thought, in this case, given what Brittany and Josh

had talked about at last week's show, the fact that at least

some people viewed me as someone who's disloyal

and who could not be trusted-- that was number one.

Number two was that there was a plane that flew overhead that

asked the HouseMates not to vacate the house, not to leave

the show, and told everyone except Cassandra that she had

a good chance of making it past next week

or making it to the end.

And I don't know where that came from.

But these are things that I just file away and think about, OK,

well, what does that mean?

Let me add that to that, and where do we end up?

And so it was clear to me that I was probably next.

Now, given also George's support--

and you know I love George.

But given the fact that he had so much support,

and according to Brittany-- again,

we have very little information inside the house.

But according to Brittany, the voting

is going according to the level of popularity,

and I was next after George.

So it's Brittany, George, Cassandra.

So it was my turn, obviously.

Were you surprised at the outcome?

% for you, % for Eddie.

I don't know.

JULIE: It could've gone either way.

I don't know.

I'm not sure about that.

I'm not sure about that.

I want to spend some time talking about what

happened Saturday in the house.

OK.

OK.

George managed to persuade everyone

to-- temporarily persuade everyone to possibly

walk out on tonight's show.

Right.

How is it that George was able to persuade all of you

to follow him in this bizarre plan?

Well, I think that people were looking for--

there was some frustration in the house,

obviously, because we just were having

a hard time dealing with nominations and banishment.

It has been something that has plagued us.

JULIE: But you guys knew that was the game.

Right? - No question.

But we're human beings.

We're not perfect.

And we're emotional, as well.

And so it was getting harder.

I mean, after we dealt with the whole thing of losing Brittany,

people just began to think about, my god,

this is difficult what we have to do every two weeks.

And I think that George hit us at a time

when everyone was ripe for a solution

to the heart-wrenching process of nomination and banishment.

And he gave some arguments that were quite compelling,

and I think people were just ready for that.

Then why did everyone change their minds?

Well, we thought a little bit more about it, I think.

It was a decision that we made, I thought,

not in haste, but we needed a little bit more

time to think about it.

And as everyone knows, Curtis had a chance

to step out of the house on Sunday

and actually get some very positive feedback.

Was there any jealousy there?

With Curtis?

That Curtis has got to go out?

I didn't feel any. Now, there--

JULIE: OK, you didn't feel any. - I didn't feel any.

JULIE: What about from some of the others?

Well, there were people who wanted to absolutely go.

Maybe there was some jealousy.

A chance to go to the Emmys?

Come on. - OK.

Stick around because we want to continue talking with you.

And when we come back, Cassandra says

her final goodbyes to her former "Big Brother" HouseMates.

Stay with us.

Welcome back.

We're here talking with Cassandra.

Cassandra, you spent the last weeks of your life living

with people who started out as strangers

and now are much more than that.

You described them as almost like a family to you now.

Want to say one last goodbye to them?

I would love to.

- OK. - Thank you.

- Hey, everyone. - Hello.

Hey, Julie.

Oh, you guys sound upset.

Well, I got Cassandra here with me.

- Cassandra! - Maybe that'll cheer things up.

Hey, Cassandra.

Hey, guys!

Cassandra!

Y'all, cheer up.

Cheer up.

It feels good out here.

Don't be sad.

Hang in there, huh?

I don't want to see sad faces when I tune

into the show tomorrow, please.

- OK, Cassandra. - OK?

You might have to give us a day.

Chicken Man.

Yo.

Cassandra, call Teresa.

I'm going to talk to all your families.

Don't worry.

I'll let them know you guys are doing well.

You guys hang in there.

I'm going to get depressed if I do see sad faces, OK?

So I mean it. - All right.

OK?

Cassandra, take care!

OK, you guys.

You do the same. - Bye, Cassandra.

- Take care, Cassandra. - Bye, y'all.

Love y'all.

Bye, Cassandra.

Thanks, HouseGuests.

Now, what are you going to say the family members?

- Oh, I-- - No, I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. You don't have to tell me.

I want to ask you before we good night

the show, what's next for you?

You're going back to New York.

You work at the UN. - Right.

I work at the United Nations Development Program.

I need to find out from my boss if he wants me back.

JULIE: Oh, you have doubts?

No.

No, I don't have doubts.

I'm on a leave of absence, and I'll

be talking to him very soon to arrange my return

and get back into my life.

So I'm looking forward to it.

JULIE: First thing you want to do?

Chocolate shake and ribs.

- Can I come? - Yeah.

All right.

Take good care of yourself.

And best of luck to you, Cassandra.

OK, thank you.

Don't forget to join us tomorrow

and Friday for our regular editions of "Big Brother."

And I'll be back on Saturday with another nomination show

live, as we speed up the nominations for

next Wednesday's banishment.

And next week, we'll be live on Wednesday and Saturday,

as well.

Now let's go back into the house.

Hey, everyone.

Hello, Julie.

I think your plane is here.

OK.

How about going outside and looking for me and letting

me know if it got your message right?

Ha, ha!

Live long and prosper.

Looks good.

They were able to do it?

Yep.

Now, what's this GAB thing?

It says GAB.

Good job, Chicken Man.

Good message.

Great.

We lost Cassandra and we get a sign in the sky.

Great.

JULIE: HouseGuests, did they get it right?

- Yeah. - Looks good.

Looks cool, Julie. Good job.

JULIE: What does it--

can you read it to me?

George, you do it.

Live long and prosper.

JULIE: Is that's all it says?

Does it say something with GAB on the end?

That might be somebody that's still in the house here.

Put it that way.

JULIE: Say again?

It might be somebody that's still in the house, Julie.

It's George's initials.

It's my initials.

JULIE: Oh, OK.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate that.

JULIE: Is that because you're the one

who came up with the slogan to put on the banner?

Yep.

No, it just means a lot--

that means a lot to me because it says a lot about life.

JULIE: OK.

Well done, HouseGuests.

Thank you, George.

Thank you, all.

- Thank you very much, Julie. - Thank you.

JULIE: Have a good night. - Same to you.

Bye-bye.

That looks cool.

It's a nice message, man.

That looks cool.

Thanks, guys.

Men's caucus.

Estrogen is caucusing by herself.

God, who'd have ever thought?

Four guys left, my god.

It's cool, George.

You had a good one up there.

Yeah, I could've slammed them, but that wasn't the point.

What's the point?

I could prove I'm a better person than what they are.

Yeah. Welcome to the world.

That's what I was thinking the night of Jordan, OK?

So welcome to my world.

Yeah.

Yeah, could've slammed them, but nah.

Nah, I'm a nice guy.

Wouldn't benefit.

Yeah.

Pug, no.

Pugita, no.

Don't mess with the super chickens.

Come on, baby. What's wrong with you?

Get away.

I'm going to put her inside.

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