season's greetings,
everybody.
welcome to another
"90 day live."
how are you doing?
i'm great.
i'm michelle collins,
and, tonight,
some couples were naughty,
and some couples
were nice.
for the next 60 minutes,
i'm dissecting every detail,
with the help from the people
who lived it.
ashley's bffs are here to talk
all things jay.
look at that cleavage --
beyond.
one of the people
closest to steven
is going to weigh in
on life with olga so far.
look how sweet she looks.
plus, he's here, people.
jesse from "before the 90 days"
is dropping by
to chat about life
post-darcey.
in full oscar-host mode --
god bless.
and molly from "90 day fiancé:
happily ever after" is here
with a big update
on her ex-husband, luis,
but we want to hear
from you guys,
so make sure to tweet us
with the hashtag
#90dayfiancé.
later on,
in the spirit of the holidays,
i'll be gifting you
a sneak peak
at next week's
all-new episode.
all right,
let's get started.
tonight, jonathan stayed out
later than expected,
and it led to some drama
at home.
now, as someone who went
through
the k-1 visa process,
my first guest
can certainly empathize.
the road
to her dramatic break-up
certainly had
a bump or two or ten.
so excited to welcome her
to the stage.
please welcome molly.
hi, molly.
hi.
oh, you look stunning.
thank you.
you really look great.
i hear you have some
major news to share.
is this true?
about your ex, luis?
um, well, yeah,
i mean, i guess.
uh-oh.
i found out that he --
wait!
we're gonna watch.
don't say it!
let's watch this clip
of jon and fernanda.
but we're gonna find out.
that was a great tease, molly.
you're so good.
oh, see? mm-hmm.
let's watch this.
there we go.
oh, it's not even here.
all right, well, listen.
it says that there's a clip.
we're on an old script.
live tv is fun.
okay, let's talk about
jon and fernanda.
they had this blow up.
yeah.
how do you feel about them
as a couple?
i like them.
yeah.
i actually had the opportunity
to meet them,
and, having followed
the season,
i mean, you know,
i've lived through this.
obviously, the age difference
between luis and i
is something
that's comparable, i guess,
but i think they're great.
i think
she's a beautiful person,
and, you know, just,
you got to get through
the cultural things a lot.
but i like them.
i thought they were
beautiful people.
do you think that
there's gonna be
perhaps jealousy issues
that we've already seen?
do you feel like
those are gonna,
down the line,
be an issue,
or do you think
that they can actually
work those out
between each other?
i think they'll be able
to work it out.
i think that
one of the biggest things,
obviously,
from seeing tonight is,
it's hard.
i mean, it's hard to, i think,
be at home waiting.
you know,
she can't work yet,
and there's things
that she can't do,
and he went out
with his buddies.
but she's gonna
have to kind of let him
still live his life a little,
i think.
it's funny you say that,
'cause it's the same thing --
you're right -- with luis,
where they can't drive,
they don't work.
so, i mean, do you think
that she's feeling
trapped a little bit
in this house?
she is.
but it's one of the things
where they got to work that out
right away.
i mean, if you say
you're gonna be home,
you might need to come home.
i mean, the fact that
he didn't answer the phone,
i think, she said for an hour
she was texting,
i mean,
that might make you think
that he's doing
something different
than what
he was actually doing,
but i think that's
a common thing with couples
a lot of times.
you know,
guys don't really --
doesn't really register
that we just need
communication.
oh, wouldn't that be nice?
just a little communication.
if every couple
had communication,
i don't think this show
would exist.
let's be honest.
right.
like,
that's the bane of it.
how do you think jonathan
handled the situation
of her getting upset?
because let's face it.
an hour is not
that long of a time.
do you think
that he was right
the way he sort of
dealt with her
when she was upset?
i don't -- i don't know.
i don't know.
he seems --
what do you think of jonathan?
what's your take on him?
you've met him.
i like him.
is he genuine and great?
i think he really loves her,
and i think he wants
to take care of her
and that
they're gonna be together.
i do.
i mean, i met them,
like i said, in l.a.
when we did an...
event together.
yeah.
i like him.
when you were with luis,
we saw you guys --
you had a lot of head-butting
with each other.
it was sometimes fun
to watch
and sometimes painful
to watch.
but do you have any advice
for fernanda and jonathan,
having kind of lived through
this whole process
for how to get
through these bumps?
i don't know that i do,
and the reason
i say that is,
is that every relationship
and every experience
is completely different.
and the person that i received
in the states
was a completely different man
than who i was with
for two years prior
to him arriving here.
and, clearly, based
on some of the things
we're gonna talk about,
it's not who he was.
and i don't know
that my advice is --
i can't give relationship
advice
to a soul.
i mean, let's face it.
it's not...
but i don't want them
to be disheartened
or anybody to be discouraged
because one person's
relationship didn't work out.
i love
how self-aware you are,
and i think it's, like,
extremely refreshing
and wonderful.
we're -- we won't get to
an update to those couples
until next week, right?
but, molly, i would like to get
one on you guys right now.
before i do,
let's take a quick peek
at where
you and luis left off.
yes, i'll marry you!
what are you doing?
i love you.
that's crazy.
it's not okay.
you want my kids
to not be here.
"you need to this."
"you need to that."
i don't need to do anything
except take care of my kids.
you can take your little ring
and get out of my house.
okay.
i believe
in second chances.
after spending
a few weeks apart,
i asked luis to come home.
aah!
i want to try to fix
everything with molly.
molly: wah-hoo!
molly:
the person i thought he was
is not the person
that he is today.
turn the --
turn the speaker off.
i really made a mistake.
you need to go.
i want him
out of my house.
you need to call your friends
to come and get you.
hang up the phone.
there's plenty of people here
that's witness to this.
i'm done.
i'm not doing this anymore.
my kid's here.
this is nutty.
my nail is broken,
and he's acting nuts.
this is crazy.
luis sold me a dream
of this beautiful man
who's family-loving,
and he wasn't.
this is enforceable.
this is final.
there's really nothing else
that i need to discuss.
i just want to do it,
and my divorce
can be final.
wow, i have, like, ptsd
watching that,
just, like, seeing you
fighting with him in that room.
how is your nail doing?
is it better?
fabulous.
they look great,
honestly.
well, let's actually
talk about that,
'cause you really look
incredible.
before we get to even anything
with you and luis,
how much weight
have you lost?
um, like, 40 pounds.
unbelievable.
you look stunning.
what's the secret, molly?
tell me.
honestly --
well, for six weeks,
i did just, like,
lean and green.
i just ate really lean protein
and green vegetables,
but i drank
some really fabulous tea,
got a trainer.
i know the tea, mm-hmm.
did isogenics,
protein shakes.
i mean, i just really focused
on
getting back in the gym,
because when i was with him,
i did gain some weight
because i was depressed,
and i was an emotional eater.
and i didn't want to go
'cause he would
make fun of me, so...
...i just stopped
doing all the things
that i used to do for myself.
well, speaking of tea,
let's get some tea from you.
first of all,
looking so fabulous,
are you dating anyone new?
people are dying
to get an update from you.
so what's your story
these days?
honestly, it's kind of funny,
because i...
i saw that!
are you engaged?
not exactly.
what does that mean?
what happened was...
yeah.
...my business partner
who is my best friend,
who was with me
when i met luis,
really thought
that he was the one.
and she was with me,
and she went through
this whole thing with me,
and she was just as upset
as i was.
and we've been in business
for 12 years
with livirae lingerie.
and she came to me one day,
and she said,
"molly, i got you a ring,
because we're like married,
and we're best friends."
and she said,
"until someone comes along
that's gonna take care of you
and love you
and be about you
and be about this business
and love your kids
the way i do,"
she said,
"don't take it off."
and she's like, "it's not --
you don't need a man."
she's like,
"you don't need someone."
you know,
"you don't need this person."
and she's like,
"i just want someone
that's gonna love you
the way that i do."
and it's funny because,
obviously,
people were
coming at me like,
"oh, my god,
you got a ring."
it's a bit of a --
a bit of a carol situation.
i know, right?
and then she was like,
"we're gonna be --
people are gonna think
we're together."
yeah.
but it just --
it really resonated with me
that it's true, you know,
like, but --
are you worried that
by wearing an engagement ring,
you're gonna actually, like,
push men off of you,
or perhaps, like,
on "seinfeld"
it will actually
draw them into you
because they'll think
you're married?
honestly...
probably will.
i mean, i have guys
left and right coming at me,
but i haven't --
i mean,
i have answered someone,
but...
it's not --
they're very private.
it's a very private person,
and i don't want to draw
someone into that,
and i'm not ready.
like, i'm not --
i've got to be ready,
and i'm not gonna do that
to my kids.
you and luis,
you had a 15-year age gap.
is that typical for you
to date a man
that much younger?
had that happened before?
will it happen again?
it isn't.
it isn't typical.
it probably won't.
i don't think so,
because i don't think
it's fair to someone to --
that possibly
may want to have children,
and i can't have
more children.
so i wouldn't necessarily
want to do that.
but i don't know.
i can't call the shots.
but i know what i'm not gonna
stand for or tolerate,
and if it happens
and it's god's will,
then yay, you know.
but right now, i'm just
really focused on my business
and helping women
across the world.
your business is incredible,
by the way.
and as a big-busted girl,
i am so grateful for you
and what you do.
you know that i was like,
"molly is just
representing our people."
if you had to write
a christmas list to santa
asking for the perfect man,
give me three things.
is it santa?
perhaps?
no.
no.
no, okay.
well, let's ask this.
how about this?
what is the latest on luis?
we haven't really
talked about him.
so what -- what's
the latest update on him?
well,
one day i went to lunch
with another dear friend
of mine,
who i went
to the dominican with,
and he had sent photos
of a wedding.
so as far as i know,
he's married.
do you know the woman?
i don't.
and there's been rumors
and photos surfacing
and dancing videos
of his wedding,
and i do know that
the day our wedding --
our marriage was --
our divorce was final,
he called
and asked for the papers
and said
he was getting married, so...
and i think
he has a baby on the way.
you're kidding me?
no.
so you know nothing
about this woman.
you haven't looked her up?
no.
absolutely nothing.
no kidding.
do you have
any advice for her,
having been married to luis
yourself?
honestly, i think he probably
already knew her,
and i think that maybe
he already
had an arrangement
and that maybe
he was doing what he did
to get here on my money.
i don't know.
i never thought that before,
and i can't say that
wholeheartedly.
well, that leads
to the next question.
i mean, seeing that
he got married so quickly
and everything
that you've seen on the show,
do you actually believe
that luis was using you
to get a green card
for the united states?
um...
i can't say that,
because i don't know.
right.
i want to believe
that he didn't,
but i don't know.
i'd be stupid to think not,
but i can't say that.
in truth and love,
i can't.
can we talk about
your daughters?
'cause everybody
loves your girls.
you are such
an excellent mother.
they're just beautiful
and intelligent.
first of all,
i want to ask --
now that luis
is out of your life --
how is your relationship
with livi?
are you guys back --
is she back in the house?
are you...
she is,
and it's a beautiful thing.
good.
she was already going through
the typical teenage stuff
at the time.
i think that was just
the, you know, cliché
of icing on the cake
where she was just like,
"i'm out of here.
i'm 18. i'm leaving."
but she's back home.
she's trying to decide
where she wants to go to
school.
she's helping me --
i mean, i just got a text
back in the other room
before i came out here
that she was cleaning
and helping at home,
and she can't wait
to get home,
and kensley's
doing wonderful.
i mean, it's just --
it's a good thing.
they're, like,
really awesome.
seriously,
you should be so proud.
i loved watching them
on the show.
they just really are
a great reflection on you.
thank you.
um, okay.
people have been eager
to hear from you, molly,
so why don't we go to
a viewer video question.
hi!
my name is carla,
and this question is for molly.
hey, molly,
how's your brother doing,
and is he still single?
okay, so, i hate to break it
to you, ladies...
my brother is engaged.
no!
to your business partner?
to who?
interestingly enough,
my brother's been a musician
his whole life,
and he had some music
circulating out there.
and a girl from norway...
...had found his music
and hit him up --
not from the show,
which it actually is
there now, but --
and they started talking,
talked for months.
she came and visited
for 10 days.
and on the last day,
he asked her to marry him.
and on friday,
he left and went to norway.
for the first time?
she's been here twice,
and they're gonna get married.
oh, my god.
did you have
any advice for him,
going, marrying someone
from overseas?
i -- honestly, i have none,
because he knows, i know,
my brother's waited.
they're perfect
for each other,
and we absolutely
adore her.
and she's a beautiful
human being.
that's -- well, everyone
in norway is stunning...
yes.
...so i'm sure she's gorgeous.
well, molly,
it's such a pleasure
to meet you
and talk to you.
thank you so much
for stopping by.
don't go anywhere,
because if you haven't
had enough molly,
you're in luck.
she's coming back later on
for a friendly competition
against jesse
from "before the 90 days"
who's gonna be stopping by
in a bit.
i cannot wait.
you can determine the winner
by voting in our poll.
whose break-up
was most shocking?
vote by tweeting us
with the hashtags
#90daymolly
or #90dayjesse.
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i feel the holiday spirit.
your poll results, lots more,
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hey, everybody.
welcome back to "90 day live."
i'm michelle collins.
i'm loving your tweets so far.
keep them coming.
now, as we all saw on
tonight's "90 day fiancé,"
ashley's decision to trust jay
is clearly driving a wedge
between her
and her friend natalie,
and here to weigh in are two of
ashley's other besties,
destiny and brandi.
ladies, you're so fun.
welcome to my winter
wonderland.
how are you?
-great.
-good.
good --
i love a one-word answer.
now, let's open with how long
have you guys known ashley for?
i've known ashley
for about 10 years.
-that's a long time.
-mm-hmm.
and what about you?
-i grew up --
we grew up together.
so, for a very long time.
you don't have to say the
years,
but for a long time.
you look fantastic,
so no judgments here.
so, are you -- do you guys
also know natalie,
or is natalie kind of
a fourth wheel?
-uh...
-both?
-i would say -- yeah.
-is she?
okay, let's talk about natalie.
what is she like?
like, 'cause we --
we kind of just saw her
on the show tonight
out of nowhere.
like, what's her story?
well, if you like one-word
answers, i would say crazy.
exactly what you've seen?
i like, like, 40-word answers,
so go nuts.
she's crazy.
not a good friend, i would say,
definitely not.
i think she puts ashley through
way too much bull crap.
-really?
-yeah.
has she done
the same to you?
did you guys have a situation
with natalie?
no, i kept myself separated
from all that.
i kind of went
my own little way.
is it the gut intuition?
sometimes you know that.
well, we just saw her.
she went to their house.
she tried to stop them
from getting married,
so what are your thoughts
on that?
obviously, given what you just
said, i assume you're like,
"oh, natalie strikes again,"
but
do you agree with what she did?
-no.
-no. you can say it.
no, i don't agree with that
at all, no.
i think, maybe --
so, i know that she couldn't
really reach her
over the phone
and stuff like that,
but the way that she just --
she came at the situation
angry.
i mean, she pounded on the
door,
and she came in for a fight.
it's not like she came in as
a friend like, "hey, listen.
i'm desperate to have
a conversation with you.
we need to sit down."
you know, she could've
rang the doorbell
and been nice about it,
but...
-yeah.
-...no, she came at her.
she came through and started
it.
or if you were ignored...
yeah, exactly.
no, i mean, really,
she did pound that door down.
it was like, "oh, yeah" style,
like, kool-aid man moment.
why do you think
natalie is so intent
on turning ashley
against jay?
like, is this something that
she
just does in her friendships
where she tries
to wedge in,
or does she have
actual reservations?
i mean, i don't know her
well enough to know
how she is with her other
relationships with people,
but i honestly think
she just...
i think she just wants ashley
for herself,
as bad as that seems,
but, like...
is that really
what you think it is?
brandi,
you agree with that?
i don't know.
what other motives
could you possibly have
by acting like that?
well, maybe she's being a good
friend and she feels an energy.
well, i'm a good friend,
but i'm not gonna
bang on your door like a...
-oh, my gosh.
well, they have --
okay, ashley and jay --
by the way, this is just
the funniest thing.
ashley and jay --
they have an 11-year age
difference between them,
so do you think that jay --
like, you obviously know jay --
do you think he's mature enough
to actually, like, marry
and commit and call it a life
with ashley?
i think that he's, um --
that he loves her.
i think there's gonna be
obvious bumps in the road,
but his immaturity level
is definitely there.
i mean, obviously, he's so much
younger than her, and...
brandi wants to say something,
and every time i look at you,
your mouth -- you're just,
like,
dying to talk, so tell it.
-spill it.
-i feel like you have the tea,
and i want it from you.
what do you think?
no,
he's not mature enough.
mm, go on.
but, i mean, his age --
it's natural,
so you can't blame him.
are you both married,
by the way?
-but at the same time --
-i am.
you're married,
and married.
is there an age difference
between you and your husband?
have you ever dated someone
that much younger?
yes, my husband
is a lot younger.
-ex -- ex.
-your ex?
-yes.
-how much younger?
-ahh...
-tell me.
how much?
-aah!
-no, please tell me!
you're k*lling me here!
i'm begging you.
it's so hot in here.
-it's not as bad now, but he --
i was born in '85,
he was born in '90.
oh, my god.
that's not too bad.
-that's not too bad.
-it was then.
then -- you're right.
he's never seen "alf."
that's when i'm like,
"have you seen 'alf'?
if not, we can't date."
do you guys think --
that's, like, my one barometer,
by the way.
i have a very low, low bar.
do you think that jay
truly is the one for ashley,
like,
for the rest of time?
do you believe in them
together?
as long as
ashley believes in them,
and he believes in them,
then i do.
that's an actually
beautiful answer.
brandi, you have funny answers.
what do you think?
actually,
tell me quick, yeah.
he's not
the bad immature.
it's he's the fun immature,
and it balances ashley,
because ashley
has a big inner kid,
and i know ashley
on a whole different level
than what she's been seen.
-interesting.
-she has a jay inside of her.
i bet she does.
where's my camera?
and we're back.
basic cable --
let's all take it easy.
let's talk about
those bridesmaids' dresses
before we talk about jay,
um...being inside of ashley.
uh, so those --
i can just burn these.
i don't even need these cards.
let's just put these behind me.
-right, right.
-who cares.
those bridesmaids' dresses,
first of all,
you are not using them.
is that right?
you never got to use them.
what are you doing with them?
are you selling them?
are you actually burning them?
what happened?
-they're in my closet.
-are they?
both of -- just yours,
obviously.
yeah.
are did you ever do anything
with yours?
i grew out of mine,
so it's, like, motivation
hanging on the door.
like, "that is beautiful, and
i'm gonna get in you one day."
you're i think the first person
who, like,
wants to wear
her bridesmaids' dress.
like,
that's very touching.
honestly, ashley should
feel good about that.
-it's hot.
-it's gorgeous.
-yeah.
-is it?
-yeah, it's gorgeous.
-oh, my god, you're so skinny.
it's like
a mermaid something.
brandi and destiny, like,
let's go out later.
you're so fun.
i really love you both.
i want to thank you so much
for stopping by
our beautiful holiday set.
-it is.
-it's nice, right?
-mm-hmm.
thank you, guys.
i have to take a little break,
but just in a bit,
jesse from "before the 90
days,"
he's in the building.
he'll be sitting here
right next to me.
"90 day live"
is coming right back.
welcome back to an
extra-festive
"90 day live."
i'm michelle collins,
and i'm thrilled to be here.
now, over in russia, steven and
olga had two challenges --
making their son, richie,
a citizen of the united states
and staying united
as a couple.
and, here to give us
some insight,
it's steven's close
family friend, tara.
tara, thank you so much
for being here.
-absolutely.
-you are just a ball of energy.
-yes, i am.
-i love it. i really do.
before we actually
jump into our questions,
let us take a quick look at the
dynamic between you and steven.
do you have it
all together?
you have your passport?
passport is --
i just had it.
steven: my dad passed, and
i don't really speak to my mom.
so i'm really close with
my friend's mom, tara.
tara took me in under her wing
and treated me like a son.
show me what you have
for the baby.
now it's not about you two.
no more.
i know. it's about my son.
for a foundation, it's
imperative that both are there.
trust me, i know that.
you know that i know that...
-i do.
-...because of
the way that i grew up.
absolutely.
and it has a lot to do
with who i am.
i'm here for you,
whatever you need.
okay.
-give me a nice hug, okay?
okay, so, tara,
you look beautiful.
let's start.
i want to ask you this.
how long
have you known steven,
and explain what your
relationship is to him.
um, i've known him
for about three years,
and a little bit longer.
probably around three years
or so,
and took him under-wing,
took care of him,
taught him things that
he wasn't taught growing up,
i guess,
is the best way to do it, so...
like, can you give an example?
like, what kind of things?
um, simple things
on just how to treat a woman
or how to treat a lady
or what's right, what's wrong,
and the most important thing
i taught him was christ.
that's important, and now
that's
important to him, as well.
so, when he was
living with you,
did you ever meet
any of his past girlfriends?
or, was he, like,
a ladies' man,
or was he more of a loner,
or in between?
he was a ladies' man
to a certain extent.
but i still think very
dedicated
to whomever he was dating.
he definitely was dedicated.
-dedicated.
-yes.
-would you say that olga was
his, like, first serious
relationship?
-yes.
-oh, she was.
-yes, definitely.
-oh, wow.
how did you first
hear about olga?
did he come to you in person
and explain the situation?
-he did, actually.
-okay, tell me what happened.
they had met in ocean city,
and she was going home,
and "i have a child now,
and i am going over there."
i'm like,
"what are you doing?"
so, yeah, of course everybody's
first instinct is,
"okay,
she wants a green card,"
or whatever people think,
unfortunately,
but i don't see that at all --
at all.
-what do you see?
-i see so much maturity in her.
i just see -- and i haven't
even
met her yet.
i think she's beautiful.
i think she's beautiful
inside and out.
i truly, truly do.
when you heard that he was
gonna become a father,
i mean, 'cause you're sort of
a parental figure to him...
definitely.
...like, and that she lived
in russia --
not just that he was gonna
be a dad at 19.
i know.
i mean, what advice
did you give him?
what did you feel
at that moment?
ooh!
i don't know what i felt.
i think we just saw it
in your face a little bit,
yeah.
i'm like,
"no, it's just too soon,"
but i knew
he would make it right.
he's got goals.
he's determined.
he is a heck of a guy.
he's a good, good guy.
he's young.
that's all.
he's just young.
-i want to ask you this.
we saw, obviously,
when the baby was born,
the way that
he treated her,
it was really criticized
a lot by the viewers,
the fans online.
they didn't like how he kind of
handled her at this time,
and even afterwards.
what do you have to say to
that?
what did you think about
the way that he treated her?
i -- i didn't like it
at first,
but i know that
from me knowing him,
he was just
acting in fear.
i think just growing up
and realizing it's all
hitting him all at one time.
i think it was just fear.
i think he was scared to death,
and that's not him.
that's not him at all.
and so the way he deals when
he's frightened is kind of by,
i guess...
-i think being more aggressive.
i guess, you know, pound
the chest and "whoo, here i
am."
yeah, i think so.
do you have any advice for him
for how not to act like that?
because it was kind of
when you watched it...
-it is, absolutely.
-...do you think just maturity,
or what do you think is gonna
actually get him to being,
like,
a good partner for olga?
i'm gonna sit him down,
and i'm gonna have me
a good ol' talk with him.
that's what i'm gonna do.
i don't like the way that
he's being presented at all
because that's not him.
that's not the child that
i've had in my home for years.
who is that child?
he is a sweet, hard-working,
giving, generous young man.
just a good guy.
okay, well, i want to
move on to richie.
so, richie is
sort of your...
kind of a grandchild
in a way to you.
yes.
what did you feel when you're
watching the show
about his decision to get him,
you know, u.s. citizenship
and bring him here
without his mom?
that freaked me out a little
bit, but i don't know --
i don't know if they --
if the viewers just
misinterpreted that.
i don't know.
but i didn't like it.
i was furious at it.
i don't want them --
i know he wants
both of them here,
and i think that maybe people
here in the states
may be saying, "mm,
you need to get your son here,"
or maybe someone's whispering
in
his ear to bring the baby here.
so i don't --
i don't know.
could you see it from
olga's perspective as a mom?
and she's a good mom.
like, she's nice.
for sure.
-but it's tough.
-yes.
by the way, does he have plans
on bringing her here?
-like, what...
-yes, yes. oh, my gosh.
and they're planning on
getting married.
-really?
-he's made that very clear.
-wow.
-"we are going to get engaged,
and we're gonna be together."
-oh, my gosh.
you excited?
-that's way cool!
you know, i can tell
that you love a wedding.
i just have that energy.
i know you're great
at a wedding.
i'm a party starter, girl.
i know.
i feel it.
do you think he's gonna
make a good dad?
'cause he is 20 now.
-he is gonna be great.
-you think?
-oh, he's gonna be awesome.
-yeah.
-he is going to be fantastic.
what makes you feel that way
about him?
because of the way
that he was raised,
he doesn't want to do that
to his son,
and that's where the --
i think,
the masculinity
is coming out
where he wants to
not do what he did.
-i got you.
-just kind of, you know,
what his father or his mother
did to him, so...
so maybe learn from
past mistakes?
-exactly. absolutely.
-and be a new man.
-fresh new start.
-fresh new start.
i love that energy, and i hope
that you do sit him down.
-you know it.
-i know. it's already fun.
i can already tell.
tara, you are wonderful.
thank you so much
for stopping by.
happy holidays,
merry christmas.
you, as well.
merry christmas.
thank you very much,
and right after the break,
people, he's here.
i can't get over it,
actually.
jesse from "before the 90 days"
is gonna be joining us.
you definitely want to hear
what he has to say.
there's more "90 day live"
right after this.
hey, guys, welcome back
to "90 day live."
i'm michelle collins,
and i am decking the halls
with my next guest.
from "before the 90 days,"
in a tux, it's jesse.
jesse,
thank you for being here.
thank you for having me,
guys.
good to be back.
good to be back.
before we get into the million
questions i have for you,
your time on
"before the 90 days"
was filled with
memorable moments
from cutting steak
to cutting ties with darcey.
let's watch.
oh, my god.
jesse: wow.
jesse: when i first saw darcey,
i was like,
"wow, what a beautiful woman
at 42 years old.
do this.
baby, oh, my god.
darcey: absolutely.
you're not my boss.
you can't tell me what to do.
baby...
darcey:
jesse's coming to america.
oh, my god!
i feel like he'll really
propose
this trip.
question is,
is darcey able to fix herself?
start acting your age.
i'm just tired of
getting bullied.
i am done with you.
bye-bye.
okay, bye.
if you cut it, like,
on the bias, it stays juicy.
i've worked in restaurants,
so -- okay.
i'm done.
i'm going to
call the police.
-police?
-so go -- go away.
what's next, a glass?
i can't take up with your lies,
deceit, manipulation anymore.
what lies? like, i understand
why you came now.
you came here
for your own purpose.
no, i did not --
i came here out of respect
and integrity -- out of love.
can you guys drop my bags off
at the hotel, please?
-yeah, keep drinking, darcey.
-really? i don't drink.
-i came here out of love.
-call yourself out.
you don't love me.
you never did, you liar.
get out of my life!
wow. i mean,
it's a roller coaster, you two.
yeah.
oh, it has been, yeah.
is there any part of you
after watching that
that misses darcey?
no, no, no.
you know, at some point, you --
like, i believe there's good
in everybody,
and i did that for a long time
with her.
and, you know,
i've made mistakes.
she made mistakes.
but at some point, you know,
if everything turns out
to be a lie
and you've helped someone
so much financially
in every possible way,
also, with her weight loss
in every way,
because you want it to be
better, right?
like, you love her,
genuinely.
so it was just like my mistake,
as well,
for me to be, like, part of
something for so long.
how did you help her
financially?
i'm just curious.
oh, you know, like,
she obviously --
like,
she explained it herself,
that she still lives with her
dad and stuff,
and, you know, with trips we
did
to greece or stuff,
i paid for those things.
you paid for the trip to
greece?
okay.
yeah, 100%.
i have the receipts.
so this was
a point of contention.
so, she likes to lie,
but i have all the receipts.
-you have receipts? okay.
-i can prove it.
also, when she says, "i'm not
talking to him anymore,"
she still does.
you two still talk?
no, i don't, but i had to
get a new number, actually.
so you don't know if she's
still
reaching out or not?
she is, on my old number.
i can see it.
-oh, really?
actually,
when i was in connecticut,
she wanted to, like --
and right after the tell-all,
actually.
she was reaching out
to you?
she wanted me to
come to the hotel.
why are you in connecticut if
you're not longer with darcey?
oh, i'm not just in
connecticut,
actually.
i have been to north carolina,
south carolina.
i'm doing a tour all over.
-okay.
and it was like
the helicopter company
reaching out
for me to do, like,
all kinds of good causes,
motivational speeches.
it's part of what i do.
it's very tony robbins,
very "true lies."
-right?
-and it sounds like a bond --
you're in very bond mode
right now, jesse.
oh, my god. and it's so great,
and let me be very clear.
i'm so humbled by everyone
watching right now,
whether you like me or not,
you know, to be able to do
this.
and i really
appreciate it,
because i've been really
touched
by the things i've done
this week,
like going to, you know,
home of the braves,
and went to
a nursing home.
it's all beautiful,
but i do want to
go to some of the things.
i do love getting
a full itinerary.
believe me, it's fabulous.
you can send me
your google calendar.
but is there anything
from watching
those moments
that we just watched --
this whole thing with the steak
on the bias and everything --
that you, watching back,
would have done differently?
do you have regrets
about how you behaved?
do i have regrets?
yeah, of course.
-okay.
like, the thing is,
like, you --
what kind of regrets?
like, what specifically?
the regret is that
i kept believing in
something that was already
lost,
you know?
like,
you can't change someone
or help someone who doesn't
even
recognize there is a problem.
so everything turned out --
when my friend --
and you saw that scene --
asked,
"jesse, can you mention
one thing that she was
truthful about?"
i had a hard time
to answer it.
and, then, it became clear,
"jesse, what are you doing?
you are just as bad
by pursuing this.
and, you know, now,
also, watching it back
and watching the new cast
of that official o.g.
"90 day fiancé,"
i'm like,
"everyone should go through
'before the 90 days'
before that k-1, you know?"
because it gives that moral
responsibility to, like,
try and keep trying
and keep trying,
more so than
"before the 90 days."
-you got extra time, yeah.
-right? you got extra time.
well, it's fun to watch, also,
going overseas.
plus, you're not just sending
someone back, you know,
like, "oh, let's try it
one more time."
but you're actually really
incompatible, right?
getting those airline miles,
as well, is always good.
-that's true, though. yeah.
-that's fine.
we have to talk about
your mom and your stepdad,
who were basically iconic stars
of your season.
i mean,
you could not forget them.
oh, yeah.
what has been their reaction
to your breakup?
because we saw them when --
you know, they met darcey.
are they supportive?
do they miss darcey?
no. absolutely not.
no,
my mom and my stepdad,
you know, have suffered,
as well.
mm.
have they suffered?
-yeah, of course.
-how so?
like, you have to imagine,
like, when i blocked her,
she started calling my mom
in the middle of the night.
that's why i didn't
get rid of my old number,
because, you know, i'm not
gonna
throw any shades or anything,
but, again,
i wish her all the best.
is it okay for her to call
at night and stuff?
no, it's not.
i mean, let me be very clear
about that.
so, you know,
and my mom has a busy
lifestyle.
she sees a fitness trainer.
she's incredible.
she has a full day.
so for her to, like,
be bothered at night,
when she needs that sleep...
-when she needs to sleep.
no one likes it.
-...is just not okay.
nobody likes it.
yeah.
and especially when we're done,
you know?
and i'm like -- i just wish her
all the best.
let me be very clear.
-got it.
i hope she does the things
that she wants to do.
-so, let's move on to you.
-but and then -- yeah.
let's move on to you.
forgive me for interrupting.
-oh, no, no. that's -- yeah.
-it's a live show,
and we're on a clock.
-yeah, and drama sells.
and, also, i want you to
sell yourself now,
because what's your dating life
like these days?
are you a single man?
you're coming here
in a tux.
i got to guess
you're busy.
-it's the holiday season, guys.
-what does that mean?
i actually wanted to do a
little
dance with you, michelle,
because --
but i'm missing the music.
-jesse, what?
-so i don't know, but --
no, but what's your story?
are you online dating?
like, are you meeting women?
-oh, yeah.
-walk me through it.
-well, am i dating?
you know, i do want to keep it
a little bit mysterious,
you know, because i do want
to come back, guys.
come on.
you do want to come back
on the show?
yeah, right.
i miss you guys. come on.
no, i'm just kidding.
-i like that.
i like that you're being open
about that, actually.
but i'm not giving everything
away right now, all right?
-okay.
-but no, am i dating?
i am. and because of this show,
i just want to say one thing.
i have met
incredible people.
i did meet and greets here,
all over the u.s.
i'm so incredibly humbled.
and because of that,
i've also met
incredible, classy,
beautiful woman
in the u.s.
i've seen a picture of american
woman that, like, amazed me.
wow.
i can see it in your eyes.
and the work ethic,
the work ethic, the culture...
we are hard workers.
look at me.
live tv, trying to
get a question in.
...the warmth,
the hospitality is just --
just trying to get a question.
wait. i'll ask you a question.
-i've traveled a bunch.
-yeah.
and every time --
this is my 14th flight here --
every time i've come back here,
i'm amazed.
i feel so home here, and home
is
where the heart is, guys.
he's a platinum -- i'm telling
you, american airlines
platinum.
do you know
about darcey --
no, i want to ask you
another question.
american airlines,
delta --
no, we can plug
anything we want.
-oh, we can? oh, wow.
-no, don't.
darcey, darcey.
-oh, okay. sorry, yeah.
her dating life, we've heard
a little bit about it.
what do you know about it?
are you keeping tabs on it?
yeah, well, the thing is,
a few of my fans
were talking with that guy.
mm-hmm. the guy that --
who? which one?
yeah. the guy
that she was "dating."
dating.
she never met him,
but okay.
then, she posted her ring,
right?
engagement ring.
yeah.
and, then, people were like,
"yeah, it's fake and stuff."
but i don't follow it.
i blocked her. i don't care.
like, i'm disgusted, right?
so, the people
were messaging me dms of, like,
"i'm talking with that guy."
i'm like, "okay."
and, then,
he sent his number to them,
and it was like,
"darcey asked him,
like, you know,
would she be okay
to play along,
like, you know,
that we're engaged?"
and he thought
it was like a joke.
so i'm not like --
i was just, like,
seeing all that
and his number
and everything.
i was like, "wow."
mm-hmm.
you know,
i just wish for her
that wouldn't have
been the case
and that it would be
all fine.
can we talk about the tell-all
for a minute?
yeah.
we have to bring that up.
yeah, of course. yeah.
because you and darcey,
you had a moment at
the end of the tell-all
after a lot of drama
that was very sweet.
yeah, yeah.
a lot of people found it
to be quite tender, actually.
and i guess the question
i have for you is,
what happened when the cameras
turned off?
did you guys go --
what?
just did you go to the hotel
together?
was there room service ordered,
condiments?
i mean, just tell me
what happened?
i love this question.
she did reach out.
that night?
yeah, but i did not want
to engage in that.
like, i really felt
that was the moment to be like,
"hey, thank you for the time
that we had with each other."
yeah.
i'm not gonna hold
any grudges.
i just want to end it
on that note.
i see.
like, and whatever
you're gonna do,
whatever you --
but, again, i just stop --
it sounds like you want to be
free of that.
but even after that,
i want to be free of that,
because the lies
and the constant
talking about me.
she can't let me go.
and that shows in the calls
and everything.
okay.
we have a fan question.
you know you have your fans.
yeah, of course. yeah.
we have to go to it.
is that the girl
who proposed to me on jfk?
we're gonna see right now.
lots of viewer questions.
let's go
to a question right now.
here we go.
hey, i'm collin.
hi. i'm maria.
jesse, are you ever gonna get
back together with darcey?
that seems like
a no-brainer,
but answer the fans, jesse,
yes or no.
no.
no? okay.
no, no, no, no.
there's no --
too much lies,
too much problems,
too much baggage.
too much baggage.
we have another question,
i think. do we?
great.
no, that's it.
i guess we figured it out.
what, that's it?!
come on, guys.
it sounds to me --
well, we are gonna stick
around,
'cause molly's coming in.
but, also, yeah,
it sounds to me like
you're ready to move on.
and i think that spiritually,
you should.
you know what i mean?
yeah. exactly. right?
and i wish for her the same.
but the harder she screams
she moved on,
the more she calls me.
so there's something
like --
well, you got to get that
third number clicking.
yeah. i just want
the best for her,
and, like, i care for her
and everything.
and that's why
the tell-all
i felt was such
a beautiful moment.
because like, "hey, whatever,
it's okay, you know?" yeah.
jesse,
i'm sorry to cut you off.
i really appreciate
your time.
i appreciate the bow tie.
it means the world to me.
happy holidays.
happy holidays.
you're not going anywhere.
oh, good.
...because up next,
molly is coming back.
she and jesse are gonna meet
for the first time.
this is my "flintstones
meets the jetsons."
i can't believe
it's happening.
plus,
i'm stuffing your stocking
with an exclusive sneak peek
at next week's
"90 day fiancé."
don't miss it.
"90 day live"
coming right back.
welcome back, everybody,
to "90 day live."
let us get in the holiday
spirit
with molly
from "90 day fiancé"
and jesse from "90 day fiancé:
before the 90 days,"
which is long.
guys, thanks for
sticking around.
-yeah.
-are you having fun?
-yeah.
-that's amazing.
it's a good show, right?
i love that these worlds
are colliding.
you guys have never met,
right?
-just tonight.
-just tonight?
just tonight, yeah.
we had some good chats,
right?
i love that.
we did. uh-huh.
fireside chats.
i can imagine.
okay, molly,
i want to ask you,
what do you guys think of,
like, these current couples
on "90 day fiancé"?
what's your overall
situation?
honestly, every season,
i mean, the couples are all
dynamically different.
but yet, some of the same
parallels, you know?
who do you like
the most?
i like jonathan
and fernanda.
i mean,
i like jay and ashley, too.
you know, i had opportunity
to spend some time
with them in l.a.,
and i have kept in touch
with ashley.
she was sick last week,
and i, you know,
reached out
to see
if they needed anything.
and i just --
-you're friends, which is nice.
-yeah.
jesse,
i want to ask you this --
do you think colt should
compliment larissa more?
is that
what's happening here?
okay, and this is
an interesting question.
because i've, like, you know,
got in touch with larissa.
-are you?
-we actually spoke just before?
yeah, yeah, yeah.
and, you know, things
are kind of rough on their end.
i'm not gonna judge.
i'm not gonna judge
any cast member.
so yeah, i can't really
answer your question.
you're too inside.
yeah, i'm too inside
with larissa for that.
i got it. okay.
well, that's a good answer.
molly --
molly,
i want to ask you this.
like luis,
jay came from far away,
then cooped up
in their little house,
in ashley's house.
you said it
kind of earlier today,
but do you think, like,
yea or nay,
they're gonna make it?
like, young jay,
do you see, like, similarities
between you, luis,
and them?
not really.
okay.
there is not as much
of an age difference.
and he actually
really loves her kids,
and he is involved.
so there's a difference.
and for the holidays,
are you gonna be
with your daughters?
yes.
i love that.
jesse, what are you doing
for christmas?
i'm gonna spend it
in new york.
are you?
yeah.
in rockefeller center?
in my new apartment
in upper west side.
oh!
yeah.
an upper west sider.
very "seinfeld."
exactly, right?
i know.
all right, listen,
since it's the holiday season,
i brought you guys
little gifts.
i'm so excited.
oh!
jesse, this is for you.
aw, this is cute.
thank you.
molly, please feel free
to hold it up.
i spent a lot of money
on this.
thank you.
i'm not expensing it.
take a peek.
and, just as a little gift,
take it out.
oh, my gosh.
just take it out.
you're kidding, right?
jesse, show everyone
what you got.
oh, my god!
show the camera.
this is awesome, guys.
"a book about meat."
i'll never forget this.
it's all about cutting things
on the bias.
exactly, right?
yeah.
i'm gonna read it
on the bias, too.
yeah.
like, this is amazing.
isn't that good?
oh, my god.
and look.
molly, for your home.
well, you know,
it's for good luck...
...for maybe
in the new year.
that is awesome.
oh, yeah.
yeah, those owls
and those candles,
i think about them.
how old are you again?
wow.
well,
see them on next season.
we have a love connection here.
you guys.
guys,
you were so much fun.
thank you, guys.
happy holidays.
happy new year.
you too.
thank you so much.
to everybody watching,
i want to thank
molly and jesse.
molly, are you gonna actually
put this in your home?
i hope so.
absolutely.
i hope luis is watching
as we speak.
all right, thank you
to all of you at home
for your tweets,
your questions.
and as a token of
my appreciation,
here is
an exclusive sneak peek
at next week's
all-new "90 day fiancé."
happy holidays, everybody.
i'm michelle collins,
@michcoll online.
i love you all.
thanks for watching
"90 day live."
good night. mwah!
bye! let's wave.
next time on "90 day
fiancé"...
steven: i have a secret that
i've been keeping from olga,
and i'm worried about how she's
gonna react when i tell her.
the real elephant in the room
is larissa and you.
she said some
horrible things to me,
and i don't know
that i can forgive her.
larissa and i have
had our differences.
she's a b*tch.
i'm sorry it had to happen,
all right?
well, you don't seem
too sorry about it.
it's hard for me to accept
the fact that he's sorry
when he was the one
that booted me to the street.
i really wanted
you guys to be there.
it's really important.
she doesn't deserve to be
in this country anyways.
get the out.
i'm sorry.
i have been keeping
something from you.
oh,.
i don't even know
how to say it.
i just want to know why,
a week after you got married,
did you find it necessary.
everything that
i have done for him,
and this is how he treats me?
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