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01x01 - Beyond the Now

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "A Brief History of the Future". Aired: April 3, 2024.*
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01x01 - Beyond the Now

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We're in the Ancient

Bristlecone Pine Forest,

just over 11,000 feet,

home to some of the oldest

trees on planet Earth.

The trees in this forest that

are surrounding me right now

are older than

the pyramids in Egypt.

They were alive

when Jesus Christ was born.

Some of these trees were

already 4,000 years old

when the United States was born.

They go back further than

almost all recorded history.

When you're

at a place like this,

it changes your perspective

because these trees

are truly the great

ancestors of life on Earth.

They have been here for so long

and will more than likely

be here long after I'm gone.

And it's very rare

to be in a place

where you have

that sense of time.

It changes your perspective

on not only where we are

and what we've done

as a species on this planet,

but where we might

be able to go.

Set one Ari, take one.

Name and describe yourself.

What are you? Who are you?

Ha ha! My name is Ari Wallach.

I am a father, a husband,

and during the day,

when I'm not doing those

two probably most important

things, I am a futurist.

Growing up,

I remember feeling

so excited about the future,

impatient, actually because I

couldn't

wait for it to arrive.

Beam me aboard.

I watched

movies and TV shows

that told stories

of what felt like

inevitable human progress,

filling me with a sense

of hope and possibility.

And it wasn't just on TV.

We were launching rockets.

Markets were booming.

And the Internet

was coming online.

Hope is back in America.

We are on the right track

to the 21st century.

3, 2, 1.

Happy 2000!

The next generation

and the generations that follow

will live in a world

far better

than the one we have today.

I went to work

as a futurist,

helping governments

and major companies

around the world

better think about and plan

for the future,

not working

to predict the future,

but looking at long-term trends

and the impacts they were

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ing to have across society.

It was an exciting time.

And it really did feel like

we were on the brink

of something extraordinary.

New technology

was poised to bring about

unprecedented prosperity

and connection.

Less poverty, more peace,

and shorter work weeks

were all right

around the corner.

But then something happened,

or didn't happen.

And that future

never really showed up.

We are now working more,

not less.

We have become more

technologically connected

and yet more deeply divided.

The consequences

of long-overlooked

environmental destruction are

showing up in terrifying ways.

And the stories

we tell ourselves

about tomorrow

are now stories of dystopia

where everything falls apart.

Our feelings

about tomorrow have shifted

from excitement to dread.

And the future

has become something

to avoid rather than to build.

But over the years,

my work has convinced me

the future is not set in stone.

We have the power to shape it.

That's what's led me here

to making this show.

I'm looking for the people

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o are building better futures

for themselves,

for their kids,

and for the world around them.

Because the truth is, we have

choices to make right now.

And these choices

are going to have

major, long-lasting effects.

So I'm headed out on a journey

to meet the brilliant minds

and brave pioneers

changing our world

and reinventing tomorrow,

people who believe that we have

everything we need

to create better futures--

not perfect, but better--

and something each

generation can build on,

those challenging

the status quo,

expanding our ideas

of what's at stake

and what's still possible,

from food to education,

from the cities we live in

to the ways in which

we organize our societies,

people using new tools

and ancient wisdom

to restore our relationship

with each other,

to ourselves, and to this

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autiful place we call home,

a journey to rediscover

how far we've come,

and where we could take this

whole thing moving forward.

What I'm really

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st interested in doing here

is trying to find the people

and the ideas

that are going to kind of

show us what futures

could be and from there

figure out which ones we want.

So this is great.

So let's talk a little bit

about the science

of motivation.

What do we think--

As my journey begins,

I'm interested in why,

even with all these

tools and technologies

available, so many of us

find it difficult to think

about the future.

That's brought me

here to sit down

with a behavioral psychologist

named Hal Hershfield.

Our future selves

often feel like strangers to us.

They feel like sort of

different people altogether.

One of the big findings

in the early days

of what's called

"social neuroscience"

is that

the brain can tell

what's me

and what's not me,

which makes sense

in a way.

If I'm sitting in a scanner,

and I think about myself,

I see more activity

in what's called

my medial

prefrontal cortex

and certain parts

of the brain there

than if I, say,

think about you.

I was more

interested because I thought

that that finding held the clue

for maybe why we start thinking

about our future selves

as different, other people.

In other words, if I can

distinguish between me

and you in my brain,

would I see

a same sort

of disconnect between me

and my future self

in my brain?

So here's what we did.

We had our research

participants

go into the scanner.

They see a little screen

in front of them.

It's a really boring,

basic screen.

And they see a word

at the top.

And the word

represents a person

they need to think about.

So they say, "OK.

Think about current self or

think about your future self."

And what we saw was that the

brain activity from thinking

about your future self

was more similar

to the brain activity

when people thought

about another person.

What are the

implications of that?

It suggests that

on some deeper level,

we really do think

about our future selves

as if they are

other people.

When you take

that perspective,

if our future self

is some other person,

then the consequences

of my decisions right now

are going to befall

some other person.

All right.

So why don't you

look at me?

All right.

That's good.

All right.

Now keep that face.

All right. And let's

try this one more time.

We're going to do

something funny here.

All right. So let's

pull these up here.

And then here's the

Oh!

older ver--

Wow. All right.

So what do you think

when you see that?

I mean, I'm sure

people have

a somewhat

similar reaction.

That looks shockingly

like my dad.

Yeah.

It seems like I don't

totally know who that is.

Right.

Right. Right.

But it also doesn't

seem that far from now.

Right.

Which is, in a way,

true to form, right?

Like, when we think

about our future selves,

you know, they may not

be that far from now.

We don't totally know

who they are, but--

When I first see that,

like, it's jarring.

And then now

you think, "OK."

Once you get over

the initial kind of shock

of where things could go,

you think, like, "OK.

"Well, like, if these are

still the same individual,

"like, how

does this one now,

"like, befriend and

best-friend this one.

And what would you

do for a best friend?"

I think that's, like,

the exact right

perspective there.

Because they're

not the same.

Yeah.

But it is that same

sort of relationship

of a best friend.

In some ways, the work

that you're doing,

it's like

a wormhole, right?

It's like the "Star Trek"

wormhole to the future

and lets us kind of

see ahead.

But, like you said, it's

not just about vision.

It's actually

about the emotions

that pull us through.

And I think this

is a key insight here.

This is really a

conversation about empathy.

This is a vision that's

really hard to conjure up.

I can't picture

my grandkids.

I can barely

picture my own kids

when they're older

because I'm so stuck

on what they

look like right now.

But I have

a really easy time

knowing how

I want them to feel

and knowing how I want

their kids to feel

and on and on and on.

And so,

like you said,

that's the empathy

through line.

That's the sort of

empathy freeway

that we want

to consider.

It's powerful

to consider how we want

life to be for the generations

yet to be born.

And it forces us to think

beyond our own lifetime.

Today, we live

in a world in which

we're ill-adapted to inhabit.

That wasn't

the world, the space

and time, the environment

that we evolved in.

So a natural

consequence of that

is some of our

cognitive abilities

aren't necessarily tuned

for the world that we've

miraculously managed

to construct,

a world in which we have

a vast amount of information

and an amazing ability

to address future problems,

to invest in the future.

And that ability is

something that perhaps

we don't use to the extent

that we would like.

I like to think

of the future as a story.

It's really a set of ideas

that we all engage in.

And so in some sense,

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e future is very malleable.

And in other ways,

it kind of doesn't exist.

And so it's open terrain

for lots of new ideas

and new ways

of being in the world.

So when most people

ask me what's my story,

I actually start back in 1922.

This is the Holocaust

Oral History Project

interview

of Rachmiel Wolochwianski,

April 28, 1993.

I am born in the

city Baranowicze, East Poland.

1922 was the year

my father was born

in a small town called

Baranowicze in Poland.

Around the time

of his 18th birthday

was when the Nazis

invaded Poland.

These were the only

pictures made in the city

during the siege.

Many of the middle-aged

were sullen and angry.

Youngsters were

half-resentful, half-resigned,

while their elders

turned to prayer.

All the Jews were

pushed into a small ghetto.

Eventually, his mother and

sister were sent to Auschwitz,

and that's where

they perished.

Now, my father

and his brother and dad

were still in the ghetto.

And at one point,

they actually escaped.

And in the kind of escape

of leaving the ghetto,

my grandfather

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s actually shot and k*lled.

And soon thereafter, my father

joined the Jewish underground,

the resistance,

and for several years,

basically he lived

in the forests of Poland

fighting the Nazis

day in and day out.

When I thought about what

I want to do with my life

I decided to choose a path

that would allow me

to kind of apply

the way I think

we should

be morally operating

as a species,

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t so much to just push back

against the Nazis of today,

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ich is unbelievably important,

but in many ways to think

about what was happening

in the late 1920s

and late 1930s

before the Nazis came to power,

thinking about how

the world was in so much flux,

and why weren't there people

around to help steer us

towards a better path?

In many ways, that greatly

influences the work that I do.

I'm thinking about

where can we take this

in a positive way, right?

I'm not a futurist

who's saying,

"Look out for these different

icebergs on the Titanic."

I'm saying there are

icebergs out there.

We should navigate

through them.

But what is the harbor

that we're trying to get to?

There's a phrase called

"cathedral thinking."

And what that means is,

how do we go about

making decisions

in the same ways

that those who build

ancient cathedrals thought?

Because when they were

building cathedrals,

I mean, more often

than not, the architect

and the initial builders

of the cathedral

wouldn't even be around

to

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see it actually completed.

It wouldn't happen

in their lifetime.

So they had to make

these decisions in a way

where they were literally

laying the cornerstone

for something that they would

never actually see completed,

but they were doing it

for the next generation.

I came to Cordoba

to see firsthand

a project that has been

many, many generations

in the making.

It's awe-inspiring

to experience something

that those who started never

lived to see completed

built as a gift

to those yet to be born,

a reminder that

the future is being built

on our actions right now.

The future is a verb.

It's something we do.

We can become great ancestors.

And that is what

the future needs us to do

right now,

to think in a way

that places us in their shoes.

This idea of stepping

back to see ourselves

and the work we do in this

moment as a piece of something

larger is so powerful,

and it has the potential

to unlock bigger, better ideas

worth working towards

in the years to come.

It's my first time

in Morocco, and I've

read about this massive solar

power plant for a while now.

And to be able

to come and visit it

is kind of like

a dream come true.

It's a little bit,

you know, solar, alternative,

renewable energy geek in me.

But to see a plant

kind of come up

in the middle of

the desert using the latest

technology that can power

a huge part of the country

is amazing for me.

So tell me, where

are we right now?

So in this area

right here just alone,

how many of these

mirrors are there?

Two million?

Two million.

2 million

of these panels?

Yeah, in NOOR I.

The complex

here is the largest

concentrated solar power plant

in the world,

generating enough power

to supply a million

homes in Morocco

with renewable electricity.

And in a country that doesn't

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ve a natural supply of oil,

natural gas, or coal,

they believe this is the start

of something even bigger.

What is kind of

your hope and your dream

for Morocco in terms of the

raw resources that are coming

to your land from the sky?

What could

an energy-independent future

look like,

not just here, but everywhere?

What impact will it have on

our politics, our health care,

and the well-being

of the natural world

when we create a future

independent from fossil fuels?

Solar technology

is just one piece of making

that future a reality.

But as large-scale facilities

are popping up in countries

all over the world, the goal

of powering major cities

and entire countries

is getting closer every day.

In Northern California,

scientists

are taking a similar approach

by applying long-term thinking

to the challenges

facing us today,

pursuing a long-held dream

of limitless clean energy.

I'm Annie Kritcher.

I was a lead designer

for the Ignition experiment.

We are at the National

Ignition Facility

in Livermore, California.

What we do here is,

we take two atoms,

and we smash them together,

and we make a heavier atom.

And that process

releases energy.

And so you're literally for

90 trillionths of a second

creating a mini sun.

That's correct.

The reason that we

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ed to generate stars on Earth

is to reach

the extreme conditions

that are required to get

two atoms to fuse together.

So you need tens of millions

of degrees to do that.

We have 192

laser beams which enter

the ends of a hollow cylinder.

And then they hit the hollow

cylinder on the inside.

And that creates an oven,

a very hot X-ray oven,

which is

3 million degrees.

And inside of

the cylinder sits

a little, tiny capsule

the size of a BB.

And inside

of that little, tiny BB

sits the deuterium and tritium

that we want to fuse together.

And so this intense X-ray oven

heats the outside

of the capsule,

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plodes that material outward,

and just like a rocket,

where the rocket fuel goes out

and that pushes

a rocket up,

we're squeezing

the material down

to half the size

of a human hair

from the size of a BB.

Because of that

outward expansion,

we get an implosion.

What is the goal of this

work in the big picture?

Nuclear fusion could

provide clean, limitless,

abundant energy

for mankind.

Fusion is really the

Holy Grail of energy.

That dream reached

a

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major milestone here recently

as Annie's team

led an experiment

that successfully created

ignition for the first time.

This is the target bay.

Here we have the target

chamber, which is in blue.

It's a spherical

chamber.

It's about 10 meters

in diameter.

And here, the laser beams

come into the chamber.

The laser beams are what

drives our experiments.

If it's

a 10-chapter book,

what chapter are we in

right now in this room?

I'd say we're not

in Chapter 1,

because we've been working on

this for quite a long while.

And we just had

the breakthrough.

I guess,

maybe Chapter 3.

The person that came up

with the concept to do this

did so before

I was born.

So it is really

a passing-the-torch,

multi-generation problem,

big-science problem.

How should

we be thinking

about challenges like this?

I think it's

really important to consider

the long-term benefits

and also

the generations

coming after us

to create a clean world

for them and to give them

the necessary means

to be able to generate

energy in the future.

So it's a really

important grand challenge.

And it's just

so important

for our future

generations.

One of the most

exciting things

about this moment

is that we have the tools

and potential to shape

the future in ways

that have never been

possible before.

The choices we make around

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w we develop our technologies

here and now will set

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path for future generations

to build on.

In the great arc

of human history,

we are living in the midst

of an extraordinary time.

Deep time,

like, what is that?

How could the universe

have been here without us?

What does it mean

that we've only been around

for the tiniest sliver of time

relative to the universe?

This is a humbling revelation.

All animals

have clocks in our brains,

going back to

a circadian clock,

because it's very

important to tell time

and to predict what's

going to happen.

But humans have been

obsessed with time,

in many ways, throughout--

since the beginning

of civilization.

And if you go back

through human history,

it's been one long

quest to measure time

with more and more

and more precision.

Time--

our story is about men

who are attempting to defeat it.

Time is their enemy

in the search

for the ultimate origins of man.

If you take

a football field,

100 yards,

and that's the timeline

of the universe,

cave dwellers to the present

on a timeline

that begins in one end zone

and ends in the other,

the thickness

of a blade of grass

at the end of that timeline

is from present day

back to cave paintings.

In many ways,

one of the cognitive abilities

that makes h*m* sapiens

sapien--or wise, if you will--

is our ability

to conceptualize time.

And this ability to engage

in mental time travel

seems to be pretty

unique to humans.

Over the years,

I've worked to help

various organizations think

about and plan for the future.

But recently, something

strange has started to happen.

Long-term plans

that were 20 or 30 years out

are now only focused

on the next 6 months.

As the pace

of the world gets faster,

our perspective

is getting smaller.

What does it take

to step back and develop

a long-term perspective?

How does our past

impact the future?

And what can we learn

from those who have faced

moments like these before?

I'm here

to speak with someone

who spent her life working

to ensure her community

holds on to the best

parts of their past

as they look

towards the future.

Hi, Ari.

Do not get up.

Oh, thank you.

Thank you for

your invitation.

And thank you for

joining us here.

Thank you so much

for having us.

Thank you.

This is my husband Tom.

Oh, hey.

I'm just going to go

around really fast.

Yes.

Grandson.

Hey. Ari.

Pleasure.

My English name

is Antonia Loretta Afraid

of Bear Cook.

When I go in the nation's

house and I address the nation,

I am Anpetu Luta Win.

I'm called Red Day Woman.

Loretta's work

began here with her own tribe,

where she works to pass on

the ancient ways of her people

to the next generation.

But that work quickly grew

as leaders around the world

recognized the wisdom

that these ideas held

for looking

at today's challenges

through a much wider lens.

When we

think about the future,

why is it so important

that we remember the past?

I think that the most

important thing

about that

question is,

we have to have

interconnectedness.

I have to know

where I came from

in order for me

to teach my grandchildren

so that we

can move forward.

This idea of time

as an entity,

how would you say

it's separate

than the way time

is practiced today,

kind of--

It's very different.

You practice time

according to a schedule

and according to,

"Oh, I got to get over here.

"I got to catch a plane.

I got to do this.

I got to do that."

And it's very stressful.

But if you were to set it up

in that spirit time,

OK, what are you

setting it up for?

There's definitive ways in

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ich you approach that time.

If you're living

in a spiritual way,

then you have time

to pay attention

to the plants,

the trees, the animals,

the fish in the ocean.

And when you're doing

all of these things,

you begin to steward

what's around you.

But that's not

how we live today.

Today we live by that time

that's running on a clock,

and how much money can we make,

you know, doing this?

So you put profit over people.

Spending time with

Loretta and her family,

it's obvious that these

concepts are not just ideas,

but rather principles that

inform how she lives and works

to pass on the ancient

ways of their people

to the next generation.

For her, these ways

are not just about the past,

but about a way of being

in the present that

recognizes the impact

that our lives will have

on future generations.

What is seventh-generation

thinking,

and why is it

so important today?

Do you have children?

Yes.

OK. So can you recount

back to your beginning?

I can probably go back

two or three generations.

OK. It's a concept.

And it's a loving

concept that we

talk about

to our loved ones.

So you make it

your business

to know what it is

about yourself

that you're going

to engage in so you

can get to that

seventh-generation thinking.

So 7-generation

thinking

is making decisions

as if you think

about the impact

they will have

on 7

generations from now?

Exactly.

Every decision that

I make in this moment,

I should think

about the impact

that it will have 7

generations from now.

But people are--

they love convenience.

They don't want

to think about,

oh, 7 generations,

you know?

But we have so many social

ills all over the nation,

all over the country.

And those are the things

that we're trying our best,

I think, in this generation,

to make a difference.

What's your hope

for the future?

That we can all

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t together

at a spiritual table

and all of us be

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gether truly.

That's my prayer.

That's my prayer.

When we saw Earth

over our shoulders,

having visited the moon,

it was a firmware upgrade

in our sense of awareness.

Our first images

from the moon were 1968,

taken by astronauts.

That was the first mission

to the moon--Apollo 8.

They went to the moon,

orbited a dozen or so times,

and then came back.

One of those orbits,

they lifted the Hasselblad,

and there was Earth rising

over the lunar landscape,

just the way the moon rises

over the Earth's landscape.

Why do I call it

a firmware upgrade?

Because if you ask

any one of those people,

they're not

consciously thinking,

"I saw Earth from space,"

but they're feeling it.

Psychoemotionally,

they are reacting

to a cosmic perspective.

Humans are at their

be

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st when we're thinking bigger

than just ourselves,

when we look up and see

beyond this moment to remember

that we are part of everything

that came before us

and we're also laying

the foundation for generations

yet to come.

But why do so many

of the systems

that govern our world

today seem so locked

into short-term thinking?

I've come to Japan to meet

an economist named Dr. Saijo

who's challenging

this way of thinking

with remarkable results.

So we know we have

this problem

of shortsightedness,

and we want

to kind of solve

for intergenerational

justice

and how we think

about time differently.

Tell me

about your work.

Rather than just

writing about the problems

with short-term thinking,

Dr

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. Saijo started something here

called the Future Design Center

to test the impacts

of long-term thinking

in real-life situations,

bringing together

everyday people

from the town

to take part in creating

the future of their community.

Community members

put on these robes

to signify themselves

as representatives

of future generations.

With this in mind, they work

to address the needs of today,

but bearing in mind

the impact these actions

will have on those

yet to be born.

The results

have been incredible,

like when they

achieved together

what traditional policymaking

had failed to address

for years,

reaching an agreement

to raise the community's

water tax by 6%

in order to address the town's

decaying infrastructure.

Today, more than 80%

of the town's policies

are created by citizens who

ha

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ve become what they proudly

refer to as future designers.

I'm not even from Yahaba,

but already I feel--

Quick.

That's right.

It's a quick shift.

That's right.

See in there.

The work that you've

designed takes people

from being kind of

an individual by themselves

but instead starts

to make it like a chain.

You see yourself as part

of something that came.

Yeah.

Then you you're here.

But then you're connected

to something that will be.

That's right.

This idea of taking

a longer-term perspective

to the challenges facing us

today is beginning

to take shape around

the world, like in Wales,

where they recently

turned this thinking

into actual legislation,

appointing a new role

known as the future

generations commissioner.

I'm Sophie Howe, and I was

the first future generations

commissioner for Wales

and the first future generations

commissioner in the world.

Back in 2015,

our national parliament

passed a law called

the Well-Being

of Future Generations Act.

What we need to do is take

a systems approach to thinking

about the impact

of all of our actions,

what impacts they have today,

but crucially

in the context of this bill,

what impact

they have in the future.

They held a national

conversation with the citizens

of Wales where they posed

the question,

what's the Wales you want to

leave behind to your children,

your grandchildren,

an

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d future generations to come?

That dialogue

led to the government

identifying 7

long-term well-being goals,

and all of our

public institutions

must set objectives which

maximize their contribution

to all 7 goals.

Are you seeing sufficient

scale and pace of progress?

The guidance

made no reference

to the Future

Generations Act at all.

And this is part of

the challenge that we're seeing.

Built into

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r legislation, the government

and our other

public institutions

have to take the advice

of the commissioner

or justify why not.

And they have to

justify that publicly.

So in Wales, because

we have this framework,

we've completely

transformed the way

that we're thinking

about transport planning,

for example, building

a new stretch of motorway

to deal with

the problem of congestion.

It's what we've always done.

But the commissioner's

intervention really

challenged the government

because you've never shifted

your investment to actually

giving people other means

of transportation--more walking,

cycling, safe routes

to those areas

an

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d public transport investment

to those areas.

We'll start to see

air pollution reducing.

We'll start to see

more people cycling,

which is good

for their health.

The long-term impact,

of course,

is that we want to see

an increase in life expectancy.

So I think people

are increasingly starting

to see those connections.

If we can embrace models

like we have in Wales,

that has the potential to have

a real trickle-down effect.

And imagine if we multiply

that by every decision

or every approach that a public

institution or a government

take to deciding how they're

going to roll out policy

and encourages them to--

well, not just

encourages them,

actually requires them

to join the dots

and think in a long-term way.

We struggle a lot

with long-term thinking,

and we tend to default

to short term-thinking

quite often.

And so we've kind of set up

multiple aspects of society

to work in

a short-term capacity.

One of the first

questions I like to ask is,

who's benefiting from

the system being this way?

Our systems

are not really broken.

That's a bit of a misconception

to say that.

I think our systems

are designed to work

exactly the way

they are.

They're just not

necessarily designed

to work for you and I.

Pollution is

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ntamination of the environment

that interferes

with the processes of life.

In seeking a better life

on Earth,

man in the 20th century

has created a great technology

at the expense of the

environment essential to life.

We like

identifying ourselves

as an intelligent species.

But who made that measurement?

We did.

We are polluting

our environment.

We are altering

the very ecosystem

that we need to survive.

We're creating a next wave

of extinction

across the tree of life

without knowing

what the long-term consequences

of that might be.

I could define

intelligence in such a way

so that there is no sign

of it here on Earth.

My biggest fear is that, though

we call ourselves intelligent,

that we might not be wise

enough to be the shepherds

we need to be

to assure the survival

of generations yet to be born.

Having anxiety

about the future

is not an unreasonable thing.

It's actually

very logical in some ways

when you look

at the data around

what we're seeing in the world.

But the important

thing is that we have

the opportunity to shape it.

And the hopeful part

of that is that

we actually have

all the solutions we need

to address the problems.

What we don't have is the

context for those solutions

to take hold.

I'm interested

in exploring

more of these new solutions

and meeting the people

who are creating them.

That led me here to New Haven,

where a former

fisherman-turned-ocean-farmer

named Bren Smith

has become a catalyst

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So, Bren, I have no idea

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at a regenerative

ocean farmer is.

So both, I want you

to tell me what it is

and how you got into it.

Sure.

I was born and raised

in Newfoundland, Canada,

the edge

of North America.

All I wanted to be

was a fisherman.

That was my dream.

I didn't want

to be a politician,

didn't want to

be an astronaut.

So I dropped out

of high school when I was 14

and headed out to sea

and fished the globe.

Cod, crab, tuna--

you name it, I fished it.

As I moved through,

the problem was,

I was fishing at the height

of the industrial fishery

tearing up whole

ecosystems, you know,

the things that we know now.

But when I was in--

out in the Bering Sea,

the cod stocks crashed

in Newfoundland, Canada.

And that was such

a wake-up call

because I thought

environmentalism

was about birds

and bees and bears.

And to see 30,000 people

thrown out of work,

fishermen walking the streets

like hungry ghosts,

an economy built up

and a culture built up

over hundreds of years

around a fishery,

you realize, like,

"Oh, this isn't

about the environment.

"This is about the economies,

the kitchen-table issue.

This is that there will be

no jobs on a dead ocean."

Bren's path

led him to ocean farming,

where he now grows kelp

and trains hundreds

of other fishermen just like him

to look at the ocean

in a whole new way.

In a time of growing concern

around land-based agriculture,

he sees untapped

potential here at sea.

I might

come in again here.

Let's see, Ron.

So I've been farming

this patch of water

for almost 20 years.

And what you're

looking here at

is 10 acres

of kelp farm.

So we have anchors

on the side of the farm

and then just

rows of crop.

And the kelp is sitting

about, you know,

6, 7 feet below the surface.

And our job

as farmers is just to get

the right amount

of sunlight and nutrients

in order to grow.

So we care about the depth

and what time of year

we're planting,

what temperature.

So it's just simple as can be.

You know, I wish it

was more complicated.

I'd seem smarter.

But the idea is,

when you're working

with the ocean,

you need to be

a willow, not an oak.

And you need

to be something

that you can remove and

rebuild real easily.

Ron, now--

Hey, Ron, we got a lot

of pressure right here.

Here we go.

Now let me clean it.

All right.

There we go.

So what we're

going to do is,

you're just going

to grab a clump

with your hand here

and cut along.

But try to--

don't cut the rope.

So I'd rather

you go below.

And just lift it

on high.

OK. OK.

Do some more here.

I'm just

going to cut.

The power of kelp

is that it has so many uses.

Like, yes, we can eat it,

and we should eat it,

and it's going to be

the center of the plate,

because it's going

to be affordable.

We can make it delicious.

There's so much creativity

in the food sector.

You can use it

for biostimulants

and fertilizer and

land-based ag for feed,

cosmetics, pharmaceuticals.

Bioplastics

is a huge industry now.

The idea is really

to break down this sea wall

between land

and sea farming.

Nutrients are in the

waters--too much of it--

like phosphorus,

nitrogen, carbon,

all this sort of stuff.

It's collected,

use plants to do it,

bring it back,

and use it

for fertilizers,

biostimulants,

things like that

because there are all

these micronutrients

that apple

orchards need,

flower farms,

all this sort of stuff,

that it just is

very accessible

to the land-based

plants.

The old story, in terms

of humans and the sea is,

we go out there,

we take what we want.

We take as much as we want

as quickly as we want.

And then go back to land,

and we consume it.

What's the new story?

I think it's

a great question.

Like, we do need a story

for the future, right?

The biggest thing--

and I think this

gets missed in the

climate discussion a lot--

is that there needs

to be a cultural transition.

And you need to think about,

like, what motivates people.

What fills their soul and

gets them up in the morning?

This isn't necessarily

about money.

And that moment,

when I was a kid, and, like,

wanted to be a fisherman

because they had

self-directed lives

and the pride

of feeding

their communities,

that's what we need

to tap into.

That's what motivates folks.

And as a kelp farmer, yeah,

I've had to say good-bye

to rogue waves

and chasing fish.

But what I can embrace--

I own my own boat.

I succeed and fail

on my own terms.

I got to be, like,

an engineer, a scientist,

a farmer, all this

sort of stuff at once.

And I get to feed

the folks around me.

These are soul-filling jobs.

And that's the discussion

we have with fishermen.

Like, yes, we all have to

say good-bye to some things.

But do we get

the core of what makes us

wake up every morning?

And that's how you build

an army of innovation

at the end of the day,

a blue-collar innovation.

And quite honestly, you

get the politics right.

Like, if you can

tap into that,

where people

see themselves

as part

of the solution,

then the level

of innovation

and knowledge networks

and sharing and stuff,

I think that's where we

transition to a better future.

Because you just want

millions of minds

trying to figure this out.

But you got to tap

into the soul to do that.

Sometimes it can feel

like what we do doesn't really

amount to anything or doesn't

add to the bigger picture that

is unfolding or that we don't

have the ability to enact

change in the real world.

But the fact is that every

little action does add up.

The desire to talk about these

wonderful things in the future

that like, oh,

we'll have sustainability,

we'll have equity,

we'll have justice,

we'll have all

of these things,

what we need to do is borrow

those ideas from the future

and think about,

like, how we're

going to implement them today.

If you want a tree

to grow 20 years from now,

you have to plant a physical

seed to get that tree.

What sort of

future do you want?

And what's

the action you can take

right now to enable that

future to become a reality?

This idea

of planting seeds right now

for better futures

is an invitation

to all of us,

no matter where we are.

Here in the jungles

of northeast India,

I came to meet someone

who is doing just that,

leading a conservation

effort to challenge

how his community thinks about

the futures they are building.

For years, I read

bout these extraordinary,

natural-grown bridges,

where ficus tree roots

are trained to grow

into living crossings,

lasting for hundreds of years,

connecting the villages

throughout the jungle.

Morningstar leads the effort

to preserve these bridges,

and with them, an ancient

way of thinking about

modern progress and the past.

Building

a root bridge is, like,

a 1,000-year-old

traditional knowledge.

Mm-hmm.

So give me some facts

about the root bridges.

How many of them

are there?

What are

the longest one?

What are

the highest ones?

There are others

who are coming in

and saying, "That's nice,

but we can make

a bridge with concrete."

What's the threat

to you,

your way of life,

and really your

way of thinking

when these bridges

kind of go up

in your community?

How are you?

Sit down, please.

Please, sit down.

Yes, please sit down.

In addition

to his work on the bridges,

Morningstar travels to speak

with students in schools

around the region, encouraging

them to find and protect

nature-based solutions

to the problems

facing the communities

here today

and in the years to come.

There's so much we can

learn from these traditions,

as around the world,

people are beginning

to rediscover

that natural solutions

can have profound results.

There are projects under way

around New York City

to restore oyster reefs

that offset

erosion along the shorelines.

And in cities

across China,

there's work being done

to enable mangroves

to serve as natural

seawalls, preventing

flooding around major cities.

This is not a quick fix.

And the people who start these

projects, these root bridges,

know they are doing something

that is not just for them,

but it's going to be

for their kids and even--

hundreds of years out.

So we're,

in many ways, saying

to both of

our communities,

"We're going to be in this

together for a while."

When we started this,

I was thinking

that so many

of the conversations

would somehow revolve

around technology.

And yet as I talk about

what people are working on,

what do they want

to see happen in futures,

they talk about

being human again.

And what's most

surprising to me

is the desire

to kind of start making

some decisions about what

do we want to leave behind

and what do we want

to start creating

more of that we've lost.

What, right now,

gives you hope?

This is a wonderful

question because it's so easy.

It's so easy to only see

doom and gloom out there.

Even if we consider

the doom and gloom,

time still marches on.

There's no stopping

the progress of time.

So it gives me hope to

consider how we've done things

in the past to make

the present better

and what we might be

able to do now to make

the future better, as well.

We are small

in time and in space,

participating in

a great unfolding

of cosmic events,

a reminder that civilization

is precious,

life is precious.

We should do everything

we can to preserve it

in this one moment

we have

to experience the glory

of this universe.

Nature give me hope

because when you

look at the things

happening in the world,

the legislative, the w*r,

and the fighting,

the clash,

the rivalry,

the protests,

it's about, you know--

about human beings.

So, for me, the most

important thing about nature

give me hope because

the way you see nature,

you know, it's a good

thing to learn from nature.

So just go to nature

and sit there.

See the animals. See the ants.

See the birds. See the bees.

Just learn from them,

and then come back.

It will change your life.

You know, we can build

something from the bottom up

that we're proud of that's

beautiful that we can, like,

point to this moment

being, like,

"Yeah, we built

something to hand to you.

We started this for you.

Now you continue it."

10 centuries later,

when we open up

a kind of history book,

imagine, then,

are we the people

who destroyed our entire Earth?

That's the reason

wh

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y, see, we are short of food,

we are short of energy.

We don't want to be that

kind of ancestor, right?

Uh-huh.

Please think about

embracing our future.

That's my message.

For the first time

in human history,

we are now grappling

with a set of issues,

a set of decisions that we

have to make that will have

long-term consequences for

h*m* sapiens, for our species,

and for this planet.

If we want to think about

where we might be able to go

tomorrow, what could happen,

and what do we want to see

happen, it's important for

us

to be able to kind of look

back and see ourselves as

part of something much larger.

If we really want

to move forward,

we have to be

curious about what

those different forwards and

those futures could look like.