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01x03 - People v. Asaram

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Cult of Fear: Asaram Bapu". Aired: February 6, 2025.*
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Uncover the alleged crimes, deceit, violence and manipulations of a once-revered spiritual leader, Asaram.

01x03 - People v. Asaram

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(PENSIVE MUSIC)

Asaram said, "We know the

law and order better than you."

How did Dipesh and

Abhishek get m*rder*d?

These things were unclear.

Asaram was given a clean chit

in the Trivedi Commission report.

Suddenly a minor claims that

she has been r*ped by Asaram.

He is a revered saint,

we arrested such

an influential person.

Asaram's son believes that

he is Lord Krishna incarnate.

I saw my Guru with a woman

in a compromising situation,

I could've never imagined

that something so

disgusting could happen.

The only way we survive as a

society is through the rule of law.

There seems to have been

no regard for the rule of law

inside the cult and

inside the Ashram.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

In "The Ramayana," Manthara

played so many games

in order to stop Lord Rama

from becoming the king.

And who did she wish to

see sitting on the throne?

Bharat.

But who ended up

sitting on the throne?

Lord Rama's sandals.

If Lord Rama's sandals

can rule for 14 years,

then Asaram Bapu being

an enlightened individual,

can also do the same.

We have nothing to fear.

When every place has

the presence of God,

then what's there

to worry about?

Today when I look at Bapu,

despite all that has happened,

he has no fear.

Bapu has a great amount

of support from the masses.

(CROWD CHANTING)

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

I have more faith in Bapu

than my parents and God.

I will not believe these accusations

until I see it with my own eyes.

Have the charges

been proven yet?

If not, then why

are you doing this?

I am what I am because

of Bapu's blessing.

(CROWD CHANTING)

Long live Asaram Bapu!

During the investigation, we

received unknown messages,

unknown letters every day

stating that similar incidents

happened to them too.

We faced the same trauma.

We could sense that

there was something wrong.

And it had been going

on for a long time.

Then we get the

case of the two sisters

who were both r*ped separately

by the father and the son.

Both the sisters felt

that if a 16-year-old girl from

Jodhpur can fight for justice,

then they could do the

same for themselves.

Narayan Sai has been

missing since the past four days.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

Whatever Narayan Sai has learnt,

he has learnt it

all from his father.

Whatever happens now,

time will fix everything.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

Both father and son,

they're very vindictive

kind of people.

If somebody leaves their side,

somebody who's close to

them, they won't forgive them.

Asaram had threatened me

that if I told anyone

about the incident,

then he would k*ll my parents.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

We cannot protect the

religion we are born into

but Asaram Bapu

has been risking his life

to protect the same religion

and yet we cannot respect him?

Such people don't

deserve to live!

My life has been ruined.

To make sure no one

else meets the same fate,

I had to step up.

If we had made any mistake,

our entire case would

have been sabotaged.

But imagine having to do

your job in these circumstances.

There are murderous

followers who are tracking you.

Do not try to provoke

me, I am warning you.

The court will decide

how the rest of

Asaram's life will play out.

What will happen to Asaram?

(THEME SONG)

(MUSIC FADES)

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

(POIGNANT MUSIC)

The whole country was

shaken and shocked

by the violent g*ng r*pe and

m*rder of a 23 year old in Delhi.

In an effort to make

the city safer for women,

thousands of people

marched in Delhi today.

In December 2012,

a young woman was

r*ped by multiple people.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

We all know it as Nirbhaya.

(DAMINI - PSEUDONYM FOR VICTIM)

In the seven to eight

months that followed,

there were a lot of

events, conferences,

protest movements,

that led to the amendment of

r*pe and sexual as*ault laws

in the country.

Irony is that Asaram had made

one of those very controversial

and crooked comments

about what the survivor

should have done.

Had that girl undertaken

the "Saraswati Mantra"

or "Guru Diksha,"

she wouldn't have

boarded a random bus

after a movie night

with her boyfriend.

Even if she had boarded the

bus, there were six drunkards,

she should've prayed to

God, held one of their hands

and told him, "You're

like my brother."

And told the other, "I'm

helpless, you are my brother,

a brother by religion."

This way she

could've saved herself.

A mistake is never one-sided.

The charges against Asaram

happens right at the f*g end of that.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

(RIVETING MUSIC)

The law had changed

which also included the kind

of act that he had committed.

The person who had filed

the complaint against him

was a minor.

So that put Asaram into

the law called POCSO

which is the Protection of

Children from Sexual Offences Act.

After the Nirbhaya case,

there was a drastic change

in such investigations.

Actions against r*pe and r*pe

involving minors became stricter.

There were stringent

laws in place.

Serious charges

have been registered

in a charge sheet

of about 1115 pages.

I called my crime reporter.

I told him to go to

the police station

and get a copy of the police

report against Asaram Bapu.

Let's see what sections

he has been charged with.

He said, "Ms. Neelam, you

will have to work very hard."

"They are still

framing the charges,

in a manner that will

keep Bapu in jail forever."

As soon as Asaram came to know

that there was a r*pe complaint,

he started following

all the legal precedents

and procedures.

He lined up an army of lawyers.

Following the directions

of the Supreme Court

and the High Court,

the daily hearings began.

(MUSIC FADES)

In January 2014, the

victim's family approached me.

They came to know from somewhere

that I am the person

who has knowledge

of this particular subject.

I told them to stick to their

truth and narrate it with honesty.

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

I wanted to go through

all the case details.

What investigation

has been done?

What evidence

did the police collect

during the course

of the investigation?

Did they miss any

important piece of evidence?

After reading everything,

we immediately came to know

that he has filed a bail application

before the Honourable High Court.

At that time I appeared in the

High Court to represent the victim.

After Asaram's bail plea

was rejected in the lower court,

he appealed in the High Court.

For his bail hearing,

Asaram hired the famous

Ram Jethmalani as his lawyer.

I was a big fan of Ram

Jethmalani. I still am.

I was aware that he is

a very renowned lawyer

and I was relatively new.

He presented his arguments

and he argued very nicely.

His first argument was that

there is no element of penetration.

The hymen isn't ruptured.

The hymen isn't torn.

There is no evidence of

insertion or penetration.

Therefore this is not r*pe.

So the moment he

concluded his arguments,

I just made a request

to the Honourable Court.

The arguments that

he has raised legally,

I would just like

to counter them.

So I told the court

that the definition

of the term r*pe,

as contemplated under Section

375 of the Indian Penal Code,

has changed.

We said that now penetration

and insertion is not necessary.

If you touch the

private part of the child,

it amounts to r*pe.

The girl has

categorically alleged

that he has touched

her private parts.

After hearing all this,

ultimately the court passed a

very detailed reasoned order

and dismissed the bail

application filed by Asaram.

I am only telling you one thing,

after the public

prosecutor's arguments,

we want to file more evidence.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

Asaram, are you

accepting the charges?

You are being

accused of many crimes.

I am 210 percent sure

that these charges are

completely fabricated.

Yesterday Asaram was

escorted through this door.

The jail officer said

that Asaram ate five

flatbreads and curry today.

Asaram Bapu doesn't drink

tea and you only get tea in jail.

The state government has not

given any supplement for this,

that if you don't drink tea,

you will get a nutritional drink.

-(LAUGHS)

-(PHONE RINGING)

Asaram's devotees have been

chanting slogans everywhere.

Release Asaram Bapu!

Release Asaram Bapu!

They have been crying.

Asaram Bapu doesn't

belong only to me,

Bapu belongs to

the populace as well.

He has worked for the

betterment of our country.

I am here for Asaram. I

am ready to go to jail for him.

I have no fear. Wherever

he goes, I will follow.

(CHANTING) Asaram is

innocent! Asaram is innocent!

We can't profile followers.

What we can

profile is the leader.

They all look remarkably similar

because they fit the

profile of a psychopath.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

At the time, Asaram was

surrounded by questions.

People knew that

something was wrong.

And then this case came.

(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

I met Asaram in 2001,

and I stayed there in

the Ashram till 2005.

What happened with you?

Sir, I have given all the

details in the police report.

-I don't want to repeat it.

-We want to hear it from you.

There were two sisters.

The elder sister

accused Asaram of r*pe

and the younger sister

accused Narayan Sai of r*pe.

And the police

showed willingness

to investigate a case

from eight years ago.

And they kept putting

together all the clues.

The police also agreed,

that it had happened.

There are so many things

that people have to deal with

when they get out of a cult.

They may have witnessed

terrible things happening,

abuse of others.

They may have themselves

been told to abuse others.

You have the fear of "Is the

cult gonna come after you?"

You have a fear of "How

are you gonna cope with life?"

And you also just carry the fear

that's been kind of put

into you all those years.

All those years of stress

and worry and fear of abuse

that it takes a while to

get that out of your system.

The victim has said

that it was in 2001,

in this very farmhouse

named Shanti Vatika,

that she was r*ped.

The girl from Surat

who accused him,

had mentioned this

incident in her police report.

I was neither surprised

nor did I think it was a lie.

Asaram and Narayan Sai

used to say in their sermons,

that women are

the gateway to hell.

Even though they said that

women are the gateway to hell

they didn't follow

it themselves.

There used to be a

queue in front of the dais.

Asaram or Narayan Sai

used to throw sacred food.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

If he pointed the

torch at a specific girl,

it meant that the

girl was chosen.

That girl was then escorted

to Asaram or Narayan Sai's hut

for their pleasure.

Now, the women who worked

for Asaram or Narayan Sai,

had a duty to persuade

and groom these girls

and get them ready.

(PENSIVE MUSIC)

The girls were

manipulated into believing

that they are blessed to be

chosen to have sex with God.

These are just two

girls who spoke up

but there might

be many more girls

who still believe that their God

has been wrongly imprisoned.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

Now, that Asaram is

in jail, fearing his arrest,

Narayan Sai has been

missing since the past four days.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

This picture is from

28th September 2013,

when Narayan Sai was

last seen in Chandigarh.

Since 7th October 2013,

Narayan Sai has become a

puzzle for the Surat Police to solve.

We have just received a

public notice from the court,

in which he has been

declared a fugitive.

Surat Police raided Rajasthan,

Gujarat, Haryana, Delhi

and dozens of other locations.

If Narayan Sai is not caught

by 10th December 2013,

then the police will have

the right to seize his property.

Keep this covered

and move aside.

(IMPERCEPTIBLE)

The Surat Police team, who

came in search of Narayan Sai,

thought that he

could be hiding here.

Narayan Sai was not found

but instead several property

documents were recovered.

According to the

police investigation here,

it could be worth millions.

Many such significant evidences

and documents have been obtained.

During a raid in Surat,

the police found 42

sacks full of documents.

The documents were actually

to refer to the amount of cash

which was being

collected as donations.

And why it is important

is because these donations

were never booked.

And that gave an idea

of how much of the

money was given out

to real estate

agents, to businesses.

Some of the money

which was given out

to this group of people

who seemed to be influential.

Which gives us our first glimpse

into a cultic empire of this nature.

Narayan Sai, who is accused of

r*pe, once again escaped the police.

Surat Police has not been

able to find Narayan Sai yet.

Surat Police has put up

posters all over the city.

A reward of INR 500,000

(6000 USD) has been announced

for anyone who can provide

information about him.

Narayan Sai was

absconding for a long time.

His mode of travel was by road.

It was not possible for

him to go by train or flight.

He was traced because

of his mode of travel.

And according to the police,

it was a human source,

not a technical source.

Information has come in

that he could be travelling

via National Highway

Number 1 towards Delhi.

Basis this, the Delhi

Police Crime Branch

has alerted all its teams.

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

Also there is information

that a Ford EcoSport,

which could be

silver or grey in colour,

would leave for Delhi.

Finally there was information

that the same vehicle

had left Ambala.

On 3rd December 2013,

Narayan Sai was

nabbed near Kurukshetra.

What do you have to say about

Narayan Sai getting arrested?

All the girls in the

Ashram know about him

but nobody has the courage

to raise their voice against him.

The father-son duo had

created a fearsome environment.

We feared for

our parents' lives.

We always thought

about what could be done.

Should we take our own lives or

go back home and live with shame?

When the two sisters from

Surat filed a police report,

their parents were against them.

Because they were in denial

about their Guru being

accused in this manner.

It's criminal, really.

This is one of the ways that

cults, I think, are so vicious and evil:

is how they destroy families

and destroy the trusting

bonds with families.

Because you become shunned,

you know, the cult tells the family

not to have contact unless

that person comes back.

You left the Ashram in 2005.

After more than seven years

you have shown

courage to tell the world

about Narayan Sai's reality

and reach out to the police.

How did you gather the courage?

I didn't have the courage before

and that's why out of fear

we didn't do anything until now.

But when the Jodhpur case

came out, when he was arrested,

and when the High

Court denied him bail,

that's when we felt

that the public is aware,

and the police will be

supportive, and we will be safe.

That's when we felt

courageous and came forward.

They believed that if they

had spoken up back then,

they could have been k*lled

and their bodies would have

been disposed somewhere.

But it was like his

cup of sin was full.

A 16-year-old girl

had the courage

to file a sexual as*ault

case against Asaram.

When you are a victim,

there is hope that

you will get justice.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

Indian legal system is quite

slow, processes are cumbersome

but POCSO is

supposed to be faster.

Technically this case should

have gotten over in a year

but it took much longer.

It took nearly five years.

The police had

filed the complaint.

The survivor was a minor girl

who had been sexually harassed

but the biggest question

was whether appropriate action

will be taken or not.

At the time of

framing of charge,

one particular document was

filed on behalf of the accused.

You may pass a new law

or do whatever you want

but this girl who has changed

her identity is not a minor.

-Major--

-Yes, she is a major.

When this document was filed,

there was a cross-examination.

And when that document was

shown to the parents of the victim,

then they said, "No, we have

never given this document."

(STAMMERING)

They started producing

false documents.

They also produced other

documents related to her age.

If we had made any mistake,

our entire case would

have been sabotaged.

They even brought certificates

of an old school saying

these are from when this

girl was in primary school,

her brother is older than

her, she is younger than him.

If her brother is so

much older than her,

then she is younger than

him so she is not a minor.

Asaram Bapu will be

free without a doubt,

no power can stop him.

There is a conspiracy

against him.

There is no case against him,

he has been wrongfully accused.

The rules of the Juvenile

Justice Act are clear.

The certificate of class 10th

is the ultimate proof of age

when compared to

the birth certificate.

So instead of the

birth certificate,

we fought basis the date

mentioned in the class 10 mark sheet.

Because that was

the legal mandate.

(HORN HONKING)

We request all the

women standing at the gate

to leave immediately.

Clearly this is a conspiracy.

There is nothing else.

If there is a vicious

conspiracy against a person,

they will use whatever

option is available to them

to save their life.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

After that the evidence starts.

They did their cross-examination.

An accused has this right.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

They filed a list of

witnesses in the court.

We want to examine these

witnesses in support of the defence.

It is often seen in the court

that people tend to

influence the witnesses.

Some people settle with money.

Some people employ other resources

and they manage to suppress them.

So I understood

that this would create

a lot of problems.

The Jodhpur survivor's

statement held immense value

because it ensured that

Asaram wouldn't get out of jail.

Asaram had threatened me

that if I told anyone

about the incident,

then he would k*ll my parents.

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

We can't trust anyone now.

Asaram's men are constantly

trying to break me, to harass me.

I was sitting in my

shop in the afternoon.

A man called me

and he asked me to

apologise to Asaram Bapu.

I said, "Why

should I apologise?"

He said, "If you don't

apologise, you will be k*lled,

along with the

rest of your family."

When I came to know about this,

the news shook me to my core.

So I decided that I'll

help this girl get justice.

On one hand, there

was a great saint.

He had such a big empire.

And I only had my pen.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

At that time I

had only one goal,

to expose his filth and

lay it bare to the society.

During that time I had a

total of 287 articles published.

Gradually as I started

publishing more,

Asaram's people

started tracking me.

I was in my office. It

was around 10:30 p.m.

As soon as I left my office,

I saw two people

waiting on a bike.

One of them pounced on me.

He came and attacked

me from behind.

And the first thing he did

was slash me at the chin.

Luckily, I survived, but

had the knife shifted slightly,

I would have died.

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

(CROWD SHOUTING)

There were some followers of

Asaram who had charges against them.

I mean, what the cops

will call history sheeters.

They were encouraged

to participate

in a lot of criminal

activities for Asaram.

In a cult,

people end up being what

we call "deployable agents."

And that means, the leader

can tell them to do things

that they would not normally

do outside of that environment.

After I testified in court,

I was sitting in my

room one morning.

I heard footsteps

and saw two boys approaching.

One of them had

a g*n in his hand

which he placed

near my face and fired.

(g*n FIRE)

-(FLUTTERING)

-(HIGH-PITCHED RINGING)

Thankfully by the grace of God,

the g*n slipped from his hands

and came into mine like this.

And I pushed him away.

As the g*n recoiled,

his hold on my neck became

weak and I fell to the ground.

He said, "How dare you

testify against Asaram?"

Before I could get up and run

away or even defend myself,

he fired again.

That b*llet hit

my left shoulder.

(AMBULANCE SIRENS BLARING)

The villagers then

rushed me to the hospital.

"A disciple's good fortune lies in

following the Guru's command."

The attackers got their Guru's

orders and followed them.

But one thing was certain,

I was attacked because my

testimony had some merit.

And that's why they

were trying to k*ll me.

If I wasn't saying

anything substantial,

then why would they attack me?

Asaram your followers

have started k*lling witnesses.

This is all nonsense. Our

followers won't harm people.

Our followers won't do this.

Don't insult us with

such false accusations.

What is the reason

behind these attacks?

Our followers will

never attack people.

I don't know.

But my followers

will never do this.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

Followers are able

to obey orders to k*ll

with the idea that this

is for the greater good.

Then of course there

was Kartik Haldar.

The man who allegedly went around

k*lling witnesses in Asaram's cases.

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

That's when the murderousness

of his followers really came out.

We, the followers of Asaram

Bapu, are present in large numbers

and we will not let

this pass quietly.

Very rarely we come across such

cases where multiple witnesses

are attacked in

relation to a single case

during the course of the trial.

Because of this case,

my son was not

with me for six years.

He was staying at home

while I was working in Jodhpur.

Random fanatics would come

and tell me that we will all die.

We will die now or

later, no matter what.

Between the arrest

and the attacks,

a lot of people came

out and spoke up.

But after the

attacks, they stopped.

At every step, we

were facing obstacles.

Their strategy was to prolong

this as much as possible.

Push us to the brink, to see

how much we could endure.

It is very difficult to face

such a long challenge.

It's very difficult.

A person struggles every

second they have to wait.

(OMINOUS MUSIC)

At her age, she should be

focusing on her studies and her future

but she can't even

step out of her house.

The more I think about

it, the more I hate myself.

I get angry.

I keep remembering the

events again and again.

They were terrified.

They were also worried

about their allegations

being proven false.

Especially when they live

in a world run by religion,

they worried

about their survival

if they were accused of

conspiring against their Guru.

Nobody can.

If I was facing such issues,

it must be harder for them.

They don't have anything to do

with legal proceedings

or police investigation.

They are simple people.

(SAD MUSIC)

It was very

difficult for that girl.

She used to break down,

she used to get worried.

People stopped

socialising with them.

He had to sell off his

trucks, to make ends meet.

He had no money

left to fight the case.

In a way, he was

financially drained.

He thought that if he is

going to lose everything,

then who is he even fighting

for if he loses his daughter?

So he thought that he should

escape with his family overnight,

to save his family

and their honour.

When he told the girl

that there is a chance

to escape this situation,

she said that no matter

what happens she will fight,

even if she has to fight alone.

When the girl refused to shy

away, the father was in tears.

He pledged to keep fighting

without being afraid of anything.

(DETERMINED MUSIC)

When you decide

to put up a fight,

you decide to

bring out the truth.

And we are not liars.

We will fight against injustice.

We will fight and we

will fight till the end.

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

They were pressurised.

Attempts were made to k*ll them.

Attempts were made to

k*ll their family members.

But they were

determined to seek justice.

This girl, she has the

courage to actually stand up

and to question what

this man has done to her

under the pretext of

being their spiritual Guru.

It's definitely something

quite outstanding.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

When we felt that there were a

lot of attacks on the witnesses,

it was getting

tough to visit courts,

we realised that this could

harm our entire process.

So we filed a special

application in the High Court

and sought permission

to conduct a hearing in jail.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

(HORN HONKS)

Now, whatever God wills,

God will get the innocent justice.

What else is there?

The Jodhpur Special

Court will decide

how the rest of

Asaram's life will play out.

What will happen to Asaram?

The verdict will be

announced on 25th April 2018.

You see people distinguish

between what's spiritual leadership

and just a conman leading people

who are looking for

some kind of relief.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

If they are found guilty,

they will face a minimum

of 20 years of imprisonment

and a maximum

of life imprisonment.

We were excited

to see this evil man,

who pretends to be

harmless, who cons people,

who has tarnished the

religious community,

who has k*lled our faith, that

God will finally punish him.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

Asaram Bapu would

tell us during sermons

that if he is lying then all our

spiritual practice would be futile.

But he cannot lie, Bapu

is like Raja Harishchandra.

(SINGING PRAYERS)

To free Asaram from jail,

followers are chanting prayers

in Ashrams across the country.

Followers believe that

the power of their prayers

will help Asaram

get out of jail.

(SINGING CONTINUES)

Asaram's supporters

claim to maintain peace

on the day of the verdict,

but the Rajasthan

Police suspects

that law and order will be

hampered on the day of the verdict.

(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)

Therefore Section 144 has

been imposed in Jodhpur

from 21st April 2018.

Section 144 was implemented

from 21st April 2018

and will remain in force until

5:00 p.m. on the 30th April 2018.

The police have strengthened

the security in Jodhpur.

(SINISTER MUSIC)

I arrived in Jodhpur

before the judgement.

I remember there

was a terrible storm.

There were dust clouds

which were, I think, miles high.

(WIND GUSTING)

I was very worried and restless

wondering what to do,

should I just sit and pray.

At times I felt I should chant

the prayer I got from Bapu,

but somehow I

couldn't say the prayer.

I tried, but I couldn't

finish the prayer.

I was up all night.

(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

I didn't sleep

at all that night.

And finally at 6:00 a.m.

I packed my things

and left for the court.

The verdict on Asaram's r*pe

case is set to come out today.

Whatever the verdict is, it

will be positive for everyone.

Nature is never negative.

Asaram Bapu has told us

one thing in his sermons,

"With faith in Ram,

Tulsi sleeps without fear.

You cannot worry about

the bad or the good,

whatever has to

happen will happen."

(HORN HONKING)

All of us were standing

outside the prison gates.

So whatever was happening

was between the press

and anybody who was

getting in and out of court.

Some people gave

statements. Some didn't.

Suddenly, uh

TV media just

went into a frenzy.

We've got the verdict.

We've got the verdict

What's the verdict?

The verdict is out. What is it?

At around 4:00 or 4:30

p.m. the verdict was out.

And that verdict--

Now, all the journalists

are sitting in front of me.

How would I know

what the verdict was?

I was not in touch

with the Ashram.

The legal team of the Ashram

was operating from there.

I was not in touch with them.

My phone was kept on the side.

(INDISTINCT OVERLAPPING VOICES)

Millions of followers

were listening to me

because I'm a

member of the Ashram.

What the Ashram had to say

was more important for them.

They didn't trust what

the channel had to say.

-Madam, all convicted.

-Madam, all convicted.

Suddenly someone

from some channel says,

"Everyone is convicted."

I was like how can

that be possible?

(OFF-KEY MUSIC)

A couple of days ago, I

had spoken to Asaram Bapu.

And I was aware that

there would be a conviction.

But I didn't know it

would be so serious.

The survivor's father called me.

When I told him that

the verdict was out,

he only said one

thing: "God bless you."

(INDISTINCT OVERLAPPING VOICES)

Concluding the r*pe

case against Asaram.

He has been sentenced

to imprisonment

till his last breath.

He was sentenced

to life imprisonment

till the last breath

of natural life.

Till the last breath

of natural life.

It was a historic judgement

in the history of this country.

Such a judgement was delivered

for the first time by the court.

Seventy seven-year-old Asaram

will remain in jail

for the rest of his life.

(CROWD CLAMORING)

Asaram, would you like to

say something to the media?

Would you like to say

something, Asaram?

Would you like to say

something, Asaram?

This is too much trouble.

What kind of t*rture is this?

In Asaram's case, it was evident

that there would be a conviction,

but there were some

doubts about Narayan Sai

as it was a 11 to

12 year-old case.

(RIVETING MUSIC)

But eventually the

conviction came.

The verdict for the Surat case

against Asaram came out in 2023.

At that time also we were

hopeful that he would be convicted.

And Asaram was convicted

in that case eventually.

When the verdict came,

we were very happy.

(LAUGHS)

The girl had struggled so much,

worked so hard,

she ultimately got justice.

We were fortunate

to get a strong victim

who stuck to the truth.

And the girl was lucky that

she had a chain of officers

who were dedicated to

keeping the investigation

as close to the

truth as possible.

Even now, when anyone

meets me for the first time

and they ask me my name

and I say that I am Chanchal,

they go, "Oh, the one who

investigated Asaram's case."

So this has become my identity.

It is great news that

the girl got justice

but our children are still

waiting, hoping to get justice.

Asaram's truth

was finally exposed.

He was not a saint.

He was the devil.

The fight we had

picked against him,

we got some sense of justice.

Better late than never.

(POIGNANT MUSIC)

From sleeping on a bed of flowers,

he is now sleeping on the ground.

It's a punishment,

a big punishment.

And as long as he

lives, he will be punished.

Because he has to face the

consequences for all his deeds.

The souls of Dipesh and

Abhishek took birth in our house

to unearth a

fraudster like Asaram.

They endured wounds and

gave us a few wounds too

but at the same time

they gave us courage too.

Nature takes care of everything.

Like how Dipesh and Abhishek

were a medium for

fate to complete its work,

there will always be

someone to ensure

nature doesn't stop its work.

It makes the right

decisions at the right time.

Asaram's clout with the politicians,

the government, the administration,

made me feel that his

arrest was impossible.

That the police report

would also be cancelled.

That's what I felt.

But this is God's grace.

(TRIUMPHANT MUSIC)

Just like in the w*r

of "The Mahabharata,"

Shikhandi sacrificed his life,

Abhimanyu was also sacrificed,

similarly, this was

also a crusade

where every warrior

performed their duty.

And look at God's grace,

he was arrested

and sentenced to life

imprisonment twice.

(PENSIVE MUSIC)

(CROWD CLAMORING)

As soon as Asaram was

sentenced to life imprisonment,

all the followers who

were inside the Ashram,

all of them started coming out.

Tell us what you think about

him being declared guilty?

Our Asaram Bapu is innocent.

This is what we believe.

The court has found him guilty.

I will not believe it.

Our Bapu is innocent.

What do you have to tell us?

You are a liar

and so is the court.

The followers who have

come out of the Ashram,

they are repeatedly saying that

even though the verdict is out,

they are not ready to accept

that Asaram Bapu is guilty.

With camera person Ujjval Oza,

Gopi Ghanghar, Ahmedabad, Aaj Tak.

(SOMBER MUSIC)

When Asaram Bapu was jailed,

the court was brutal,

the media was brutal.

And eventually

what was the result?

Not a single Ashram has shut

down. Our services didn't stop.

(MUSIC INTENSIFIES)

On the first full moon

day, people visited the jail,

worshipped the jail, and

bowed their heads at the jail.

It's been more than 48 hours.

No one has put a single drop

of food or water in their mouth.

There is only one demand.

We are not saying anything.

We just want to see Asaram Bapu.

Followers were

sitting outside the jail.

The police thought

if they baton charged

then they might flee.

Some fled, some broke down

and the rest kept coming back.

"The light keeps shining bright

at Asaram Bapu's court.

The light keeps shining bright

at Asaram Bapu's court."

(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

Even after going to jail,

Asaram Bapu knows what's

happening around the world.

That means Bapu is divine.

Though it is all

about the leader,

it is also the structure

with these rituals,

with these ways of doing

things and that can carry on.

The taint is not so

much on the saint

as much as it is

on his followers.

Unfortunately, there

are a lot of people

who continue to

live in the Ashrams.

(INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC)

There is need for rehabilitation

of all the people

who are stuck there.

(MUSIC CONTINUES)

There has to be

empathy to understand

why they followed and

what are the circumstances

since this has happened.

Even after Asaram's

imprisonment,

if they still continue

to be his followers

then it is because

of their extreme faith.

I bow to their faith.

But they should

question in order to figure

what is the truth

and what is a lie.

If Arjun didn't ask questions,

then "The Gita" wouldn't

have been written.

If Lord Krishna had said,

"Arjun, just listen

to what I'm saying,

don't ask questions",

then "The Bhagavad Gita"

wouldn't have been written.

What is the most

important thing in life?

It is rationality,

wisdom and reason.