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01x05 - You Told the World

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Gypsy Rose: Life After Lock Up". Aired: June 3, 2024.*
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Follows Gypsy Rose Blanchard as she experiences life as a free woman, including reconnecting with family and finally living with her husband Ryan Anderson for the first time.

01x05 - You Told the World

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- Birth control. Did

you figure that out?

Do you want kids right away?

- I mean, I want kids.

I just, I don't think that

right away would be smart.

- Agreed.

- Ken texted my stepmom.

- Why do you think he decided

it's time to pop back up?

- I don't think that he has

respect for my marriage.

- He doesn't like me.

- Is this the life

that we really wanna

lead for ourselves?

- But I still would

like you to remarry me.

- The timing needs to

be at a little bit

of a more convenient time.

- What?

- [Kristy] Gypsy's first

true relationship was Ken.

- I loved him so much.

I have to stay loyal

to my marriage.

I've never orgasmed

with a partner.

I have that past history

with being molested too.

Getting past the

mental blocks is hard.

- [Ryan] Who are you texting?

- I'm just texting

my sister, honey.

- He thinks Kristy's trying

to sabotage our marriage.

- If something happens

with Gypsy and Ken,

it's gonna be your fault.

- [Ken] I just feel like

it's important for me

to share my thoughts

and opinions on her

and the time that

we spent together.

[pensive music]

- It is hard to

hear about an ex.

It absolutely is hard for Ryan.

I mean, he's my husband.

And Ryan feels like Ken

is possibly a threat.

But I love Ryan,

and I want to work

on our marriage,

even if it means that

we have some things

that we need to work

through with trust.

I understand that.

- You know, now that

she's happily married,

now he's trying to come back

and try to weasel his way in?

It's like my guard's

up, you know?

But, at the same time, it's

like she's never gonna want it.

I feel like it, I don't think

she's gonna do that to me.

[pensive music]

- This is for

training, so, like,

whenever you wanna start

training for tricks,

like, you say a

command, like sit.

- Mm-hmm.

[clicker clicks]

- And then, you give a

little treat when they do it.

- I've never trained

a dog before.

- I haven't either.

- Like, I've trained it to like,

I know, like, rub

its nose in pee

when it pees in the house.

- Oh, that's not nice.

- I know, but it works.

I can't believe we're

actually getting a dog.

Like, we talked about it,

and then next thing you

know, it's like, here it is.

Did I expect to

have a puppy today?

Absolutely not.

I just wanted all my ducks

in a row before we got it.

You know, we made one phone

call and the lady was like,

"Yeah, meet me

here, here, here,"

and I was just like,

"Whoa, what just happened?"

You know, but this is a

milestone for me and Gypsy.

- Let me grab my purse.

- I have always wanted my

own family to call my own.

You know, when I was growing

up, I didn't have a dad,

so it was one of those, it

was me, my mom, my brother.

And then, my stepdad came in

and, you know, then it

became him and my mom.

And, you know, it

was just one of those

where I never had a

family where I felt like

this is my family, you know?

And it's cool now,

'cause I'm setting it up

the way I wanna set it up.

So it's my family

and I like that.

You want me to warm up

that burger real quick?

- No, let's just go.

- You sure?

- Yeah.

Well, I think now that we are,

like, bringing a new addition

and a fur baby into our life

that it will make

this a little closer.

All right, think

we can roll out.

- [Ryan] Baby, where was

that towel? Did you see--

- I got it!

- Oh, my baby's on point.

- When I tell you

I got everything,

I got everything.

- My baby's on point!

I love my wife. [kisses]

[gentle music]

- [Rod] Yeah, well, I was

on the boat when Ryan-

- Ryan called you?

- Texted me.

He texted me telling me

some stuff about Ken,

and you were involved,

and he felt like you were

stepping inside the circle

or whatever.

- Right, yeah.

- That's when I called

him and talked to him,

and I agreed with him.

- Yeah, I mean, think about it.

Ken was a big part of her life,

and he has the right

to speak his opinion

and set the facts straight.

- You know, he chose not

to be with her anymore,

to give her that freedom.

But then he's gonna

come back around,

I don't know, I feel

like he's maybe trying

to worm his way

back in, you know?

- No, I think when Gypsy

and Ryan did a podcast,

and you haven't

heard it, I heard it,

they dogged him out.

He had told me, he says, "My

story needs to be heard."

- Gypsy and Ryan's

relationship is fresh, fragile,

and she needs to be happy.

That's all I want.

- I mean, I hope and

wish that they last.

If it doesn't, then we'll be

there to pick up the pieces.

- I would hope Ken

sincerely feels

that he wants Gypsy to be happy.

And in order for her to be

happy, and move on from it,

and have that closure,

just stay quiet, stay away,

and give her and

Ryan the best chance.

I do, honestly, gut-check

feeling is that he's gonna try

to somehow worm his way

back into the situation.

[tense music]

- Getting nervous.

- Why are you so nervous?

- I'm just nervous,

babe, it's a pup.

Who you texting?

- I'm texting Mia.

- I saw that address.

What does she want?

- [Gypsy] For what?

There's no address.

- Scroll back down, that's.

- Oh, that's ours, that's

for the free stuff.

- Oh, okay.

Well, I saw that, and was

like, "What the hell?"

- Yeah, that's for

the free stuff.

- That's why I was like,

"Who are you texting?"

[tense music]

Has there been any

thoughts to reach out?

- For what?

- To, you know,

has there been any desire

from you to reach out

to what's his face?

- You can say what's

his face's name?

- To Ken?

- No.

- No desire whatsoever?

- No, we're good.

- Okay.

That's what I just

wanted to know.

Like, I believe it.

The situation's done, right?

- Situation's done.

- That's one reason I love you.

What kind of stuff you

trying to get there?

- I'm just texting

my sister, honey.

[tense music]

- Okay.

- So, relax.

- I'm very relaxed.

I'm just asking,

what's going on?

- I know.

[gentle music]

- [Ryan] Hey, how

you doing? I'm Ryan.

- [Gypsy] Hi!

- [Ryan] This is my wife.

- [Gypsy] Aw, hello, baby.

- Yes, yes.

- Thank you for doing this.

- Please text me, call me

if y'all have any

problems or any concerns

with her at all.

- [Gypsy] Okay, okay.

- Thank you so much.

- You're so welcome.

- [Ryan] You just made

our family complete.

- See you, girl.

- Thank you.

- Bye.

- Bye.

- Hi, baby.

Aw, she's so little.

[Gypsy giggling]

- She loves licking on you.

- She's a good girl.

You like the name Pixie?

- I like the name Pixie.

- Okay, Pixie it is.

- [Gypsy] Hey, baby.

It's cold.

- It is cold, Pixie.

- Aww.

She's a little cold right now.

Hey, baby.

This is where we live.

Come here, baby.

I love her already.

She's only been home

for like an hour

and I absolutely love her.

She's so sweet.

You know, I think

that this breed

kind of fits our situation,

our living situation,

and us in our home right now,

so I think she's

perfect for our family.

[gentle music]

It feels like this is a good

decision for me and Ryan,

and I think it'll

give us something

to kind of bring us

closer together.

Can you feel that,

babe, can you feel that ♪

When I see your face,

when I see your face ♪

Got me all the way,

never felt this way ♪

Gotta seize the

day and feel it all ♪

- It's like we're

here in the present,

you know, we don't

live in the past,

and that's one thing I

love about me and Gypsy.

We focus on the future,

and we live in the present.

- That's a promise.

Make my way to you

It's new love, it's new

love, it's new love, baby ♪

- You know, it's not that I

don't like Ryan, 'cause I do.

I mean, when I

see them together,

you know, you could see that,

you know, they have that love.

Ken was her first

real relationship.

Lord, I'm friends

with all my exes.

- Since Ryan got in the picture

and they decided to get married,

I thought Ken would've

never been mentioned again.

But, apparently, it's not

gonna go away like it should.

- Now that she got closure

of really why things ended,

I don't think we'll

hear too much of Ken.

- Well, I just hope from here,

you know, if they

got their closure,

let's close the book on

Ken and don't talk to him.

- I'm not getting involved in

- Just do like I asked

you and don't ever

You allowed a door to open up.

If Ken wants to

reach out to Gypsy

and they wanna communicate,

you should have told Ken,

"I can't help you."

If something happens

with Gypsy and Ken,

it's gonna be your fault.

- I'm not gonna lie to

Gypsy, that's the thing.

I promised her that I would

never keep anything from her,

because that's what Dee Dee did,

and I'm not like that.

If she needs to hear

whatever he has to say

for her to heal,

let her freaking heal.

My gut, I think that

it's not fully closed.

- I'm not even gonna

call it a saga,

but it's a seed I

feel like that can,

you know, grow some bad grass.

you know, grow some bad grass.

There's not a lot I

can do to stop it.

If it's gonna happen,

it's gonna happen.

But I don't want Kristy

to be to blame for it,

or me to be to blame for it.

[pensive music]

[gentle music]

- I'm excited to, you know,

hang out with my sister.

- [Ryan] Yeah, I wish I was

going to hang out with you.

- [Gypsy] Well, we're just

gonna be doing some girl stuff,

so you probably wouldn't

be that interested.

- [Ryan] No, I wouldn't.

- I wore these

pants 'cause I knew

that she would probably

be wearing leggings,

and if she's gonna show

her body I wanted to too.

- That's nice.

[Gypsy laughing]

- Sorry, I think them

things on your chest

are bigger too now, I think.

- Well, she's got

the flat stomach.

She's got the flat stomach,

she has smaller boobs.

But she's got like

that athletic build,

and I've got that, like..

- Got that kaboom!

- I got that stripper

body. [laughing]

- Okay, now we're

turning around.

[Gypsy laughing]

Trip's canceled.

- [Gypsy] If I had

to rate myself,

I'd rate myself a solid six.

I look in the mirror

and sometimes I'm like,

"Yeah, my mom was right,

I'm not desirable."

And I look at, you know,

my sister and I'm like,

"You are so pretty."

Like, I wish I was born pretty.

- Yeah, y'all never had,

like, one-on-one girl time.

- Right.

- Oop, let me get over.

- Yeah, I mean, I just, like,

I don't know what kind of stuff

she's like into and stuff,

so, I mean, it'd be a good time

to get to know her that way.

- Yeah.

- Even though we're

10 years apart,

Mia just wants to be someone

that I can lean on and talk to.

I know that I'm

the older sister,

but, in many ways, she is the

one with the most experience,

and I go to her for advice.

- Just don't let her

talk (bleep) about me.

I know she's going to.

- She's not gonna talk

(bleep) about you.

- Yeah.

- She's not!

- Okay.

- Like, I mean,

she hasn't talked

(bleep) about you.

All she said was that

sometimes she likes you,

sometimes she's iffy about you.

- She has no reason

to be iffy about me,

that's the thing it's like

I get it though, she's

being a protective sister.

- Yeah.

- I get it.

Mia feels how she feels.

Like, I can't change

that just over time.

Like, all I can do is be

me and be there for Gypsy,

and that's all I plan to do.

- Hello!

- Hey!

I brought your stuff.

- Perfect.

- Hey, girl.

- You look cute!

- Thank you!

- This wind ain't nothing nice.

- Sorry, it's not

better weather.

- All right.

- Y'all ladies have fun.

Y'all have a good day.

Be careful, you got

precious cargo now.

- [Mia] I know, all

right, be careful.

- [Ryan] Okay, y'all have fun.

- Love you!

- Love you, baby.

Mwah!

- Mwah.

[bright music]

So how have you been?

- Good.

- [Gypsy] How's school going?

- It's all right.

I have my first exam on Monday.

- You know, nursing is

definitely something

that I think that you

have the heart for.

I know my experiences

with doctors and nurses

hasn't been all that great,

and I have a complicated

history with it.

But, you know, I think that

it's a good profession.

I scheduled my appointment,

it's for the 27th.

- For your nose?

- For my nose.

I'm so tired of how

the profile side looks.

- I hate my profile.

- Because it's like,

it dips down and

then it dips back.

Like, it goes back up.

And if they can just shave

the bump down a little bit

to where I have a

more feminine slope,

I would be happy with that.

- Dad screwed us.

[Gypsy laughs]

People are so mean about it too.

- They are, I watched one video,

there's this dude that said,

"Big nose, beady-eyed,

Ninja Turtle looking B."

They wanna hate on anything.

- Yeah.

- And they're gonna try and find

what they can to hate on.

[gentle music]

- Well, hello, ladies.

- Hi.

- How are y'all?

- Good.

- Good, so--

- This is my first time.

I've never had one.

- Oh, is it really?

- So I have no idea

what to expect.

- I am honored to

be the first one,

'cause I will set

the bar very high

for the next one that comes.

- Yeah, so I'm like, I really

don't know what to expect,

or what to do, or anything.

My short, little legs. [giggles]

Mm, it's massaging me.

- This is you first

time in a massage chair?

- Uh-huh.

- That's crazy.

- I'm like, ooh, this

feels nice. [giggles]

Ahh. [laughs]

So things have been

a little bit weird.

- Why?

- You remember how everybody

was like, "Yeah, you

don't know someone

until you live with them"?

- Mm-hmm.

- I'm learning that.

- Mm.

- I mean, it doesn't

change my love for him,

but I didn't know that he

snores like a grizzly bear.

I sleep with earplugs.

But I'm like, I didn't know

that before I married you.

- What about laundry,

and dishes, and all?

- Okay, he's good at

keeping up the dishes.

I do the laundry.

He is, I'm not gonna

say he's a hoarder,

but there's a lot of clutter.

I hate clutter, my

mom was a hoarder.

- That's what I was thinking.

- It's a problem for me.

Like, it is like an OCD

thing, I don't like clutter.

The closet, there was

clothes everywhere.

I took out everything,

and then piece by

piece, "You want this?

If not, it's going to Goodwill."

Made two Goodwill bags,

yet there's still so much.

So it's just differences

in personality,

and sometimes it

gets overwhelming.

And I have to tell him like,

"I need to go and sit

outside for a second.

Have a moment away from you.

I'll come back, I love you.

I might text you, but right

now I need this me time."

You know?

- Yeah.

- Things have been

a little bit weird

between Ryan and Kristy lately.

- Why? Because of Ken?

- Yes, so--

- I knew that was gonna happen,

I don't know why she did that.

- I mean, it was just

one of those things

that we were talking and

it led into it so easily,

and it was kind of

like out of left field,

"Yeah, I talked to Ken the

other day for like two hours."

She's like, "Yeah, he told

me, like, the real reason,

like, why he broke up with you."

And, of course, that was,

like, a huge thing for me,

because, like, I never

got closure with that.

She's like, "The

reason why he left you

is because he felt like

he was doing the

right thing by you."

So she's like, "He made

the ultimate sacrifice,

by, like, he loved you so

much that he let you go."

And then, that got me crying.

I'm like, "I loved him so much."

Okay, so stirred up

a bunch of feelings.

Okay?

I had to tell Ryan about it,

because I'm like, I don't

keep stuff from Ryan.

So I was like,

"Kristy talked to Ken,

and not only does he

regret leaving me,

but he also is single too."

[tense music]

Oh, his reaction was

something to the fact of,

he thinks Kristy's trying

to sabotage our marriage.

It's a slap in his face,

and duh, duh, duh, duh,

and so he texted Dad.

- I wear my heart on a

sleeve, I'm very sensitive.

And with Kristy, I

know she accepts me,

but it's one of those like,

quit bringing old stuff up.

You know, especially with

that situation with Ken,

I was kinda like,

"What is your purpose?"

So I called Rod and was like,

"Hey, Dad, here's the situation.

I feel like Kristy is not

respecting my marriage."

And he was like, "Man, I'll

hit you back, just hang tight."

And then, Rod called

me and he's like,

"I told Kristy if she ever

brought him up again,

that she'd be in trouble.

You know, like if Gypsy

wants to reach out,

you let Gypsy reach out."

Said, "You are not

gonna be the reason

that that door

stays open, Kristy."

And that's all I could ask for.

Kristy didn't want

us to get married.

Just accept the fact that Gypsy

made the right

choice with her life.

I wish they would stop

trying to protect her,

and trying to look for

reasons for her to leave me.

[tense music]

- Well, I don't understand

why he got Dad involved.

You're a grown man, why

you getting Dad involved?

He could go to Mom and say,

"Look, I don't like that,

you know, you said this.

Can you please not talk to

her about this anymore?

It makes me uncomfortable,

and I don't think she needs

to hear this kind of thing."

- I don't think, he's

not comfortable yet.

And he can't vent to

me, 'cause I'm like,

"Well, stop bashing Mom for

just giving me closure."

And I told him I cried too.

And he's like, "Well,

do you want him?

Go be with him.

If that's what you want,

now's the time to tell me."

- Did you think about it?

- I mean, no. [giggles]

- [Mia] That wasn't

very convincing at all.

- No, of course

not, no. [laughs]

No, I mean, I can't

focus on anything else,

but this marriage.

- You're right, you're right.

Everybody always wants

what they can't have.

- Mm-hmm.

Even though, as

much as I love Ryan

Even though, as

much as I love Ryan

and I love our life together,

a part of me wonders that,

like, me pushing a wedding

and getting married in prison,

did I change the

course of my fate?

[tense music]

- So, did you find

a gynecologist?

- I'm working on it.

I needed to set up a

primary care first.

So I have my first primary

care doctor on Tuesday.

- Okay.

- You know what the

really sucky part is?

- What?

- I still haven't orgasmed.

I've never orgasmed

with a partner.

- Can you orgasm by yourself?

- I don't even know that.

- Okay.

- Like, I have that past

history with being molested too.

So getting past the

mental blocks is hard,

'cause I'm like,

so self-conscious.

- No, I get it, it's

just being a woman.

It's like, I don't

know any gynecologist--

- So something happened though.

- What?

Did he (bleep) in you?

Are you pregnant?

[tense music]

- You know, I don't want

Kristy to be involved

in their stuff or myself.

You know, they gotta

hash out some things.

But, you know,

when she feels like

there's something she can't

communicate with Ryan,

that she can reach out,

and she's doing that.

And that's all we can hope for,

is we're there for her to help

her make the right choice,

what's right for

her in her heart.

You know, we want

her to be happy.

[tense music]

You know, she's 30 years old.

She's making 17, 18-year-old

person type decisions.

- No, I'm not pregnant!

It only happened two nights ago.

- Did you take anything?

Oh my God, you still

can, there's still time.

I'm not even joking.

My test is on this stuff.

Gypsy, you cannot

have a kid right now.

- I just, I mean, it wasn't

Okay, this is the

situation, all right?

- You are not on anything.

- I'm not.

- Your chances are very high.

So you could take

something up to 72 hours.

It hasn't been 72 hours has it?

- No.

- Do you even care

to take anything?

- I mean, sure.

- Because it seems

like you don't want to.

- No, I don't care, like,

I just, I don't feel like

it's going to happen, becuase--

- You don't know that though.

- It didn't happen last month.

- He did it again last month?

Gypsy!

- It may have been one time

that it was an accident.

- It doesn't matter.

- But, I mean,

it didn't result in anything.

- It doesn't matter.

Like, it

- You're so stressed out

right now. [laughs]

[pensive music]

- She's gonna learn.

We all want her to

take a step forward

and two steps back a

few times, you know,

and on her own.

I think that's important

that we give them that space

to have some issues and be

able to reconcile those.

You know, that's how you

build a relationship.

That communication skill

helps you to better make it

through bigger and bigger

battles, I find, you know?

[engine sputtering]

[tense music]

- It's like, I'm torn.

I wanna start a family,

but then, at the

same time, I'm like,

I also wanna give

me and Ryan time

to know that this

marriage is going to work

before bringing in a child.

- That is my big thing.

Y'all are fresh, in a

sense of living together

for the first time,

y'all are learning, you

know, being dog parents.

He just went back to work,

and I don't want it to

be six months from now

and you're pregnant,

and you're like,

"Do I even want to

be with this man?"

For them to not be

careful right now,

it's kind of scary

when she brings it up

and she hasn't taken

the precaution of,

you know, going

to get that extra,

you know, medication to make

sure that it doesn't happen,

all I could do is

give that advice.

- I have, like, what

I ultimately want

in the big picture,

but then I also have, like,

the things that I'm like,

okay, well, I have a

full plate right now,

and I can't donate my time

solely to raising a

child at this point.

- I want you to get all the

things that you want first.

You won't be able to

get your nose done.

You might not be able

to get your teeth done.

You might not be able

to get your teeth done.

- I won't.

- There are things that--

- If you're pregnant, you

can't undergo rhinoplasty.

- [Mia] Yeah, there's

a lot of things that--

- We may need to

stop at the store

and get the morning-after pill.

- We will, we can, for sure.

[Gypsy laughs]

[pensive music]

[tense music]

I'm thinking about

giving Ryan a call

and just letting him know,

you know, that I wanna take

the morning-after pill.

- Okay.

- Just as a precautionary.

- Do you wanna

call him right now?

- Sure.

- Okay.

- Okay, heh.

So, oh, wait, there he is.

Hey.

- Yeah, I, uh

Well, I told Mia about,

you know, a few

nights ago's event.

- You know, our little

tussle in the sheets.

- So, I also, like,

you know, told her that,

you know--

- For contraceptives,

like, emergency contraceptives,

like, a morning-after

pill type of thing.

You don't got

nothing else to say?

- I don't know.

- Well--

- It's 72 hours.

- It's 72 hours, it

hasn't been 72 hours.

- Yeah, it hasn't

been that long.

- Okay.

- Okay.

- [Mia] I'm getting a

sister for the first time,

so I wanna protect that.

You know, you live

and you learn,

so she's gonna

make those choices

and at the end of the day,

she's gonna do what

she wants to do.

But if I could give her

some guidance in a way,

then I absolutely will.

- What are you doing?

- All right, well, we're

pulling up to the place.

Love you.

- [Ryan] Bye.

- Bye.

- [Ryan] Uh-huh.

- He's so mad. [laughs]

- [Mia] He's mad?

- I could just tell

he's not happy.

- He's not happy about you

telling me or you taking it?

- Me telling you, probably.

- Like, he's not gonna not think

you're gonna tell me all about

y'all sex life all the time.

- All the time, right.

- But, I mean, I think

this was appropriate enough

for you to get my opinion

and for me to be able

to give you my advice,

as to I think you should.

- Right.

- And, you know, I

guess y'all didn't know

that you could take

it up to 72 hours.

- Nope.

- You wouldn't have known

that if you wouldn't

have talked to me.

Who knows? Maybe you

would've had a little kid

running around in nine months.

- Right.

- You know?

- Yeah.

- But, okay.

[gentle music]

- Okay, Ryan texted me.

- And said?

- He said, "You had

to do that on camera?

I will pull out from now

on, no worries." [laughs]

- Pull out from now on?

You should've been doing

that all this time.

Oh, I'm not judging

him for it, it happens.

- No, I mean, it happens, it's

whatever, you know, I mean.

So I should probably

take it, right?

- Oh, yes.

- Yeah, I should probably--

- Go get it.

- Okay.

I know in the big picture,

Ryan and I want a family.

But Mia's right, like,

that doesn't mean

that we can't be responsible.

There's a lot of roadblocks

that we're having

to face right now,

and so I just wanna make sure

that I'm 100%, he's 100%,

that we're stable for the child,

and that's just not right now.

Wow, literally one pill.

- Yes.

- 40 bucks for one pill.

This is ridiculous.

- It's either 40 bucks

for that one pill

or thousands of

dollars down the road.

What do you want?

- You're right, you're right.

Down the hatch.

- [Mia] Mm, dinner.

[tense music]

- Cheers, to not

getting pregnant.

- [Mia] Good job, I'm proud.

I'm glad you were smart

enough to take something.

- Honestly, I mean,

I feel the same way.

Like, I wanna make sure

that going into it,

we know, 10 toes down,

that this is something

that is for the long haul

and we're both ready.

'Cause, I mean, even

if we were both ready

emotionally and mentally,

I just don't think that

the timing for right now

is where it needs to be.

I think I'll know when I'm

ready when I can fully say

that I could put myself

aside and put a child first,

and right now, I can't say that.

Oh, my Uber's here.

- All right, I'll help you out.

- All right.

- Okay.

- All right.

- [Mia] Today was very,

like, different for me.

Like, I never had a sister

I could go shopping with or

get my nails done, you know?

And I feel like I'm getting

a sister and a friend.

I hope to be somebody

that she could talk to

that's not Mom or Dad.

That's somebody that

could understand,

but also give advice, but

listen when she needs it,

and, like, I want

to be that for her.

- All right, Mimi, I love you.

- All right, I love

you too, be careful.

- All right, I will.

- Let me know whenever

y'all make it back.

- [Gypsy] All right,

I'll text you.

- All right, don't slip.

- All right

- All right, love you.

- [Gypsy] Love you.

[gentle music]

This is Ryan flipping out,

because I told my sister

about our difficulties.

- No, you told the

world about it.

Not your sister, the world.

[door thuds]

[birds chirping]

[gentle music]

- He needs to understand

that I have been living

my whole life in a cage.

How I used to be with my

mom, I felt powerless.

When I am feeling powerless,

my reaction is to

take back control.

I'm just trying to

find warning signs,

and maybe I'm looking too hard,

maybe I'm overanalyzing,

but I wanna make sure that

I take care of myself.

- You know, with Gypsy and her

childhood traumas and stuff,

I have to be careful,

because I don't want her to

think that is the situation,

'cause it's not,

it's not at all.

You know, I'm not her mother.

I'm not trying to prevent

her from living her life.

You know, like, it just

I hate when she feels that,

like, if I hit a trigger

and feels that for a second,

it makes me take a

step back and be like,

"Okay, well, let's rethink it,

and then we'll come back to it,"

because, you know,

that's not who I am.

- I feel like, you know,

there's gonna come another

time and another time

where he gets in his

emotions about something

and wants our whole world

to be just about us.

And I'm gonna

continue keeping up

that feeling and

that demeanor of,

that's my family and I can

talk to them if I want to.

But I will say that

if there comes a time

that I see that I am being

controlled, I'm leaving.

[tense music]

- Take this little part here,

just slide it up

underneath your face

kind of on the shirt

right down here.

[tense music]

- I've never done

an interview before,

because, in the past, I

didn't wanna play a part

in the media circus.

- It is, it's crazy.

Yeah, she's blown up more

than I ever thought she could,

you know, or wanted her to.

We talked about what

kind of dog we wanted,

and I always wanted a husky

my whole life as a kid.

And if I got one, I was

gonna name him Balto,

and she loved that,

'cause she always loved

that movie as well.

And, you know, yeah,

she just told me

that was her

favorite dog as well,

and that she always

wanted a husky as well.

We actually planned on

that for our future,

that we were gonna get a husky.

That was one of the things

that we bonded over.

Come here, drop it.

Ready?

We were not together when

I got Parker, you know.

That was years after

our separation.

- Well, I'm more separated

from her than ever,

and I just feel like

it's important for me to

share my thoughts and opinions

on her and the time

that we spent together,

and everything will

unfold as it should.

[tense music]

- [Producer] Were you

supportive of the marriage?

- No, I wasn't.

- Anytime that anybody

has reservations

about our relationship,

they're not in your

favor so much anymore.

- What things would you

change about your nose?

- That looks so much better.

- Wow, that is crazy!

- Woke Ryan up, I

said, "I miss Ken."

- Gypsy's gone to her

parents without me.

It did hurt not

being asked to come.

- Captain Gypsy Rose.

- [Ryan] So I still can't

get a video call, huh?

Is there somebody there

you don't want me to see?

- All right, well, I gotta go.

- [Ryan] All right, fine.

- Sometimes it's

actually really nice

not to have him around.