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01x01 - The Monster Wants to See Me

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Hunting a Monster". Aired: 6 September 2024.*
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Former cinema manager Lluís Gros Martin, already convicted of sexually abusing minors and sentenced to 24 years in prison, reaches out to well-known YouTuber Carles Tamayo, an old acquaintance of his from Tamayo's childhood years.

01x01 - The Monster Wants to See Me

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Action!

Hi, I'm Carles.

We're going to visit my town, El Masnou.

Let's go.

El Masnou is by the sea.

There's a big port in El Masnou, too.

Look at all the beautiful boats!

Now, we're in

in

Where are we?

I don't know. I don't remember.

-Aren't we at La Calàndria cinema?

-Yeah!

La Calàndria is a cinema

in my town, El Masnou.

I spent a lot of time there

because I've wanted to be

a filmmaker since I was a kid.

-Now?

-Yeah.

Emma!

When I was a kid, with friends and family,

I made TV shows

Back with Channel Tamayo.

radio shows

Hello, we're interviewing

and, above all, short films.

Hello, I'm Humphrey Bogart.

I made some of those short films

at La Calàndria cinema.

Imagine how thrilled I was

when the cinema manager, Lluís Gros,

gave me free posters and tickets.

I was especially thrilled when he showed

my short films at the cinema.

My short films could now be seen on

the same screen where I saw Harry Potter.

We're coming to Ràdio Premià de Mar.

I met Lluís when I was 16,

volunteering at a local radio station.

We spoke with the businessman,

Lluís Gros, at La Calàndria,

and he showed us how the cinema worked.

And this young man works there.

He wants to ask you

some questions for Ràdio Premià.

I started reporting for Ràdio Premià.

We're on a mission: get something to eat.

I worked with other local media outlets

until I started my own YouTube channel

for investigative reporting.

I'm in El Palmar de Troya.

And I didn't do too badly.

-Can I get a picture with you?

-Hello, how are you? Sure.

Thanks a lot.

A selfie. Are you recording this?

-I'm recording, yeah.

-Cool.

Your reports are awesome.

-Thanks.

-Thank you.

Actually, everything went well until 2019,

when everything blew up in my town.

More news. Sentencing has been passed

in the sexual abuse of minors case

in El Masnou.

The judge sentenced the manager

of El Masnou's cinema

to more than 23 years in prison.

The Court declared

he took advantage of his position

to engage in sexual relations.

Carles, it's Lluís from the cinema.

Listen.

We have to talk quickly

because I'm in a hurry.

So after two years with no contact at all,

I'm going to meet with Lluís Gros,

who has been sentenced to more

than 23 years in jail for multiple counts

of sexual abuse, prostitution,

and corruption of minors.

HUNTING A MONSTER

CHAPTER 1

THE MONSTER CALLS

-Hi? How are you?

-Carles?

Yeah, where are you?

Here at the cemetery.

Okay, I'll come to the cemetery now.

See you soon. Bye.

-Carles.

-What's up?

Where are you?

I'm on foot because I scratched my car.

-Where are you now?

-I'm here in front of the cemetery.

Hey, I can see you.

How is it going?

-I'll put the mic on you, so

-Already?

Count to ten.

One, two, three, four, five, six,

-seven, eight, nine, ten.

-Good.

-Gosh, I scratched it bad.

-Yeah?

These are the image rights

we both have to sign.

I've followed everything

about El Palmar de Troya.

I said, "Damn."

Damn it. What a damn scratch

I made on the car. sh*t.

-Okay, recording.

-Okay.

-That one, too?

-Yeah.

You called me for several days

saying this was a matter of life or death,

-and I want to know why.

-Yes.

Well, it isn't life or death.

I want to talk

about my birth in the cinema

and my death in the cinema.

Why?

Well, because

Well, I ended up in El Masnou.

They charged me with false accusations.

Everything ended very badly.

And, well, that was my death.

So you want me to make a video

-about your story, or just to be clear

-Yes.

I'm going to be honest.

When you were so insistent

-that I interview you

-Yeah.

I thought the reason for the interview

was, more than anything else,

for you to apologize.

I apologize to the people who believed

the press,

the media,

and their lies.

You maintain that nothing

the media said is true.

No, it's not true.

Maybe I brought some things

upon myself, but it's not true.

I was struck by your sentencing.

I took notes.

There are several cases involving children

who claimed you molested them

which have been proven 100%.

-It hasn't been proven because I

-Proven.

First, you asked two minors to get naked,

and then they said you masturbated.

There was another case

with a 13-year-old boy.

When he turned 14,

you told him you'd pay him more

if he had sex with you.

And he, the minor, agreed.

Another boy claimed

that you performed fellatio on him

and had him, the minor,

penetrate you anally.

What he said about penetration

Listen, I can't

It would be impossible

for me to penetrate.

Let alone be penetrated by them.

Because I can't even use suppositories!

The search and seizure operation occurred

-in your at the cinema.

-At the cinema.

And they discovered a mattress there,

along with two heaters

facing the mattress.

Multiple witnesses testified to that being

the place where the sexual acts occurred.

Semen was found, as you have mentioned,

and also present was third-party semen

from individuals never identified.

They found semen that wasn't yours

-or the boys'.

-No.

It wasn't mine or the boys'.

-Whose was it?

-How would I know?

How would I know?

Several boys who don't know each other

reported you and testified

to having similar experiences.

Let's say that it was all just

a series of coincidences, bad experiences

which led you to say

what you've come to say here today.

-Okay.

-The sentence was passed over a month ago.

-You should have already gone to jail.

-Right.

-Why haven't you gone to jail yet?

-I don't know.

You destroyed many of those boys' lives.

Won't you apologize to them?

If all that were true, I swear,

-I would say, "I failed."

-You're going to spend 23 years in jail

-saying you're innocent and denying it.

-I'm innocent!

I'm innocent! I deny it all! Please!

It's unbelievable.

I swear I thought this chat

would've gone another way,

which was me trying to uncover

your reasons for calling me so often

-over the last year.

-Sure, first, I made myself

Your sentence was given

I see that you've made

an in memoriam of your life,

which I won't be sharing

because I won't spread the propaganda

of someone who's committed atrocities.

-Well, I didn't do it.

-Fine.

-That's it.

-What?

Okay?

Just one more thing.

I came by car,

but I scratched it, and now I can't drive.

You haven't been able to drive for years,

but you did it anyway.

I'll say it again in case I wasn't clear.

If you've been prohibited

from contacting them,

I hope you won't try to do so.

But if you agree,

we can record your apologies

No. No.

Look.

Okay, no. Then, that's it.

I just wanted to be clear

about what we thought we'd do.

Okay, Carles.

All right.

-Goodbye.

-Bye.

Look, here are the photos from

your 11th birthday party at the cinema.

Do you remember Lluís at the cinema?

I remember he was always at the cinema,

and he always said hi to my parents,

my grandparents, my aunts, and my uncles.

He knew the whole family.

I remember he was

an important person in town.

He seemed to be doing

social work by hiring Moroccan kids.

He knew me as Carles' father.

He was always asking about Carles.

"That boy is going to go far."

He was a really nice guy.

When you had the premiere,

there were a lot of people at the cinema.

Look, that's Lluís. See?

Back there you can see

he was really involved.

Once, when we went to buy tickets,

he was yelling at his staff.

His personal relationship

with his clients was excellent,

but his relationship with his staff

could have been better.

And everyone knew his sexual as*ault case

was pending appeal.

-You knew about his sexual as*ault case?

-Yeah, because he told me.

But you believed what he said.

He told you about his sexual as*ault case?

Yes, and that

And it looked like he'd be acquitted.

But tell the truth! He said

they were all conspiring against him.

You're not explaining it all.

I didn't talk to him about a conspiracy.

If you knew he'd been

investigated for sexual as*ault,

why did you let me go to the cinema?

-We didn't know.

-We didn't know he was being investigated.

You just said you did.

Helena came home from school one day

and said that a WhatsApp group

called Lluís a pedophile and said

that he'd molested boys and whatnot.

I told her, "You have to be careful

because that's a very serious allegation.

"You never know because some people

make these things up."

When it came out that he had molested

those boys, what did you think?

I would never have believed it, but

I guess people who do that are two-faced.

My chat with my parents left me confused.

We hadn't realized

what was going on right under our noses.

I managed to contact a boy

who took part in the trial,

so he could tell us what had happened.

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

Hi. I wanted to know how you met Lluís.

I met him when I was 12 or 13.

I'm not sure.

He started offering us work,

handing out flyers and stuff.

Do you know anyone else

who went through the same thing?

Of course. Lots. A lot.

For us, the sentencing hearing

at the Provincial Court

was a liberation day,

in a manner of speaking.

But it was basically pointless.

Not personally,

because it did help us a lot,

but in terms of justice.

I mean, he is still out in the streets.

-I'm going. Are you recording?

-Yeah.

-I'll do the clapboard. I'm doing it.

-Yeah.

Okay.

I met one of the boys

who opened the trial against Lluís Gros.

That boy wondered

He filed the charges

as a minor, as hard as that was.

He went through

a trial that lasted over ten years.

Then, two years of appeals.

Now that there's a final ruling,

Lluís still isn't in jail.

When did the boy report him?

I'll go look for the ruling.

In 2011.

Some boys reported him in 2007,

and the boy I met reported him in 2011.

When I met Lluís, around 2010, 2011,

the case was already open.

-And you didn't know.

-No, not at all.

The ruling states:

"Lluís denies everything,

"but has not provided

any alternative hypothesis."

So, he didn't explain what happened.

-I'm innocent, but

-Believe me.

-Okay.

-Just because.

This came up because you wanted

to make a documentary.

After speaking to the accuser,

I'm curious to know what Lluís is doing.

-Now.

-What he's doing?

He should be in jail. Why isn't he there?

Good question.

Did you end things badly?

I told him I didn't think

we would see each other again.

I thought he would be in jail in a week.

But he wants you to make

a documentary about him.

Doesn't he? At least he wanted you to.

Here I go.

Hi, Lluís, it's Carles.

I've been thinking about what you said

in December about doing an interview,

and I think that's a good idea.

So if you want,

just tell me when is good for you

and we'll do it.

Hi, Lluís, it's Carles.

I've been thinking about what you said

in December about doing an interview,

and I think that's a good idea.

Yes?

-Hello?

-Hi.

-How are you?

-Come in.

-How are things?

-How are you?

-Where are you?

-Here.

Can you come over here for a minute?

To see if it would be better

to do the interview here.

-Where?

-Stand here in front of me for a minute.

Okay, what's the interview about?

Because, obviously, I haven't prepared.

These are the image rights,

if you want to read them.

One, two, three.

DEATH IN THE CINEMA

Whenever you're ready.

Okay. My name is Lluís Gros,

and this is my story.

Let's do it again, but more relaxed.

Action.

My name is Lluís Gros,

and this is my story.

I have many stories

about the cinema and other things.

Okay, action.

Yes, well, one of the adventures

I had in the cinema was

It's a silent B-roll coverage. Just walk.

I don't need to speak?

Why would you want to film me

when I'm not talking?

It's a B-roll cover shot.

I heard you say that before. What is that?

It's footage that is supplementary.

What would a documentary

about your life offer the public?

Well, it will showcase what my career

in the cinema was like.

What does that offer the public?

Man, first of all,

love of the seventh art form.

What you've asked most of me

is to investigate the topic of

Yes, we'll do that, but not right now.

I wanted to ask you.

If I investigate and discover the truth,

what then?

How will you know it's the truth?

THE TRUTH

Let's begin with evidence summary

number 14/2013.

Lluís Gros Martín's statement.

-That's me.

-Yes.

Good morning. You are here

as the defendant in this trial.

Yes.

Do you know Mr. Lluís Gros

who is seated behind you?

Yes.

How? Are you friends?

Have you worked for him?

I worked for him, but with conditions.

At one point, he insinuated that

he wanted to have sex with you?

Right.

What did your sexual encounters involve?

The first The first was the one

that leaves you in shock.

OMAR'S STATEMEN

ACCUSER FROM EL MASNOU

Relax, take your time.

I need some

sh*t, some air.

Take your time.

You consented to a search

of La Calàndria cinema.

-Yes.

-You remember, by the Mossos.

-Yes.

-there were sheets, toilet paper

REGIONAL POLICE RECORD

LA CALÀNDRIA CINEMA

-Hi, how is it going?

-Hi.

-How are you?

-How is it going?

-Good.

-Good, Ariadna.

-Hi. Nice to meet you. How are you?

-And Marc.

This is the vestibule,

the lobby where you wait to go in,

and the bar where we sell popcorn

and everything.

I'll show you the theater.

REGIONAL POLICE RECORD

LA CALÀNDRIA CINEMA

Here you have the theater, our theater.

Should I tell you which seat

I always used to sit in?

-Yeah.

-I swear. Look, row 7.

-Number 12. Here.

-Number 12?

This is the second floor.

Do you remember La Calàndria cinema?

Inside, you had stairs going up

and stairs to the left.

There was a big room

that I think overlooked

the upper part of the cinema,

and to the left was a room.

-A room? A bedroom?

-Yes, with a bed.

-There was a bedroom

-In the cinema?

Yes. The only time I ever used it was,

if I was around, I would take a nap.

You said you have erectile dysfunction.

How do you explain the subsequent analyses

that show the seminal fluid found

on the sheets belongs to you?

Well, because

Because, you see, I suffer from

On the sheets and other things, pillows

I'm not talking about one sheet.

Sheets, papers It was all very dirty.

Lubricant was found in that room.

What did you use lubricant for?

Yes. You have to know about cinema.

Not digital cinema, actual cinema.

35 mm film reels.

If it was for film, how did you use it?

Because we took it all down and I said,

"Let's throw it all out."

Of course, it seemed like

I was using that gel for sex.

Not a chance.

Here we have the old room that was used

for posters and signs.

Lluís usually kept them.

He didn't throw them away.

I remember there were heaps of old posters

dating all the way back to the '90s.

In fact, there are things written here.

What's written there?

"Omar."

He brought me to the cinema. I was 13.

OMAR'S STATEMEN

ACCUSER FROM EL MASNOU

It was only supposed to be a blow job.

We went into a room and he told me

He said, "We're going to have a**l sex."

And I said, "No, I'm a virgin.

I've never done anything."

He said, "I'll give you 120 euros."

Actually, I'm not sure what he said.

So I We did it, and he squeezed,

so I'd ej*cul*te inside him.

I was 13.

When you were a kid and working for Lluís,

did you see anything weird?

It's normal for everyone to know

and not know at the same time.

Everyone suspected,

but it wasn't something

we knew for sure happened.

It wasn't obvious or anything.

Now we'll go into the projection room,

which is accessible from outside.

REGIONAL POLICE RECORD

LA CALÀNDRIA CINEMA

The ruling states that the pornographic

magazines were hidden here in this room.

It must have been here.

The truth is there was

a lot of stuff lying around.

I haven't even gone in there.

During that time, did you hire minors?

-Between 2005 and 2011.

-Yes.

Did you ever provide them

with any type of pornographic material

-containing images of men or women?

-I'm going to tell you.

They weren't mine.

I found them there, in the cinema.

Good morning. Sit here, please.

Mr. Sufián, you have

a decreased capacity of 35%.

Thirty eight now.

-Due to cognitive issues?

-Intellectual disability.

-When did you meet Lluís?

-I was 13, 14, 15.

-What kind of work did you do?

-My job was to distribute flyers.

And then, well

to have sex.

-Did he ask you to bring him other boys?

-Yes.

Here on the right is the office.

REGIONAL POLICE RECORD

LA CALÀNDRIA CINEMA

This is Lluís' office.

He left it like this, a mess.

What happened here?

He came to get a few things.

-The cinema is yours, right?

-Yes.

But in the end, with the trial

Since he was still declaring innocence,

we didn't touch anything, just in case.

We didn't want to throw anything away,

but now

-Can I take a look?

-Yeah, if you see something interesting

or something you like

There are names and phone numbers.

One number says:

"Miguel, totally available."

Toss that over there.

"Núria Parish School, Sant Just Desvern."

And is this like a 4800 euro debt?

Photos with Leonardo DiCaprio.

-From the year 2000?

-Could be.

This must be his lawyer,

Julián Suárez-Inclán Gómez.

Let's take all of this.

FEBRUARY

Lots of stuff in the cinema

have phone numbers.

For example here,

"Luca" and a phone number.

The idea is to categorize

the names and numbers

-so as to contact them in the future.

-Okay.

Lluís is calling me.

-Hi, Carles.

-Hi, Lluís. How are you?

I just got home.

Because, guess what?

There's a company called Eliminalia.

-What's that?

-With all this sh*t,

I can't even go to church

because everyone in town

is giving me the looks.

I want to get rid of all the news stories

about me that are still out there.

Everything is still out there

on the Internet.

Yeah. I can see that.

Is it "we eliminate your past

and help with your future"?

"Is there something you want to erase?"

Thanks for contacting Eliminalia,

leader in the deletion

of unwanted material on the Internet.

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

Look.

The other day I was talking to a friend.

I'd like some information

about deleting news stories

that have been published about me

that are slanderous on the Internet and

-Sure.

-If you type my name, you'll see

the horrible things they've said about me.

In this case, in order

to settle on a price,

we need to study the links first.

One quick question.

I don't know

if there are any legal documents,

or if you can tell us

how the trial process is going now.

Mostly because it might help us

work on cases like this one.

A sentence was passed.

Twenty three years in prison.

It's just that

It's unlikely to be ex*cuted

due to my health.

Aside from depression, they've found

hydrocephalus, which is quite serious.

But look.

We mostly just needed to know

about the legal stuff.

What the last update we had was.

Because I understand

Yes, the last update there is,

is that

there's been a sort of medical appeal.

-All right. Have a good day.

-Good day. Bye.

-What do you think?

-I think it's clear.

There will be things

that will be difficult Well.

Don't film the bed. It hasn't been made.

Damn. What a mess, man.

I'm giving lessons to a boy.

We haven't met in person,

only over the phone.

I'm teaching him about

The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri.

How did you connect?

Look, I formed a group

with some people I knew.

And this boy turned up.

They told him I was a professor

of I don't know what.

And, well, we talk a lot

about literature and all that.

I just told him

to read the Bible in Castilian Spanish,

the book of the Song of Songs.

It's one of the 73 books in the Bible.

"Let him kiss me with the kisses

of his mouth.

"For your love is better than wine.

"Let's run.

"The king has brought me

into his chambers.

"We"

It's very erotic.

It's the most erotic part of the Bible.

This boy How old is he?

I don't know. Wait.

What's up?

No, man, no. I didn't remember, man.

I know it's from the time

of the philosophers.

Man! You've caught me unprepared.

Yesterday, I laughed a lot

when the history teacher

lowered your grade

because you made spelling mistakes.

No!

Hey, I assigned you the Bible yesterday.

Read it.

If you have a Castilian Spanish Bible,

that's even better.

Read the Song of Songs.

But you don't listen to me.

I send you things,

and you don't look at them.

as*h*le.

Osman!

Look, I'm talking

-I'm talking to a friend in Andalucía.

-Okay.

I have an ex-student named Belén.

She married a Moor.

And it's full of women who marry Moors.

I know why they marry Moors.

It's because they have half a meter dicks.

Read about it.

Read about Ferdinand VII's d*ck, man.

You'll freak out.

Have you studied him?

sh*t, it seems like a porn film.

sh*t, man.

All the Bourbons are whoremongers.

They should abolish the monarchy

and put me in its place

instead of the king.

Don't drive me crazy.

Tell that to Josemi.

Tell him that he should snort a line.

A line.

Hello, who is this?

Axel, how are you?

Are you studying Greek?

What are you doing?

Listen, are you studying the verb "lio"?

Listen, why don't we have a video call,

so I can see what you look like, Axel?

Come on! Give me a video call.

Who's Axel?

Someone who studies with Osman.

Do these boys know about your sentence?

No.

Answer.

Hello?

Join the call.

Now!

Hey, I can see you!

How are you?

-Fine, and you?

-Man, Axel!

You're better looking

than Osman.

Osman turned off his camera.

Osman, come on.

My face is lost in the horizon.

Yeah, you're so cheeky, man.

And you're bald.

Yeah.

Hey, I'll send you photos

of when I was your age and when I was 30.

When are you coming to Barcelona?

I'd like to go somewhere this summer.

In a couple of days, I could show you

Barcelona, Tarragona, Gerona,

and we could go all the way to Lleida.

But in the capital, Barcelona,

there are lots of places to go.

Casa Batlló, La Sagrada Família,

Park Güell

La Sagrada Família is awesome.

Who said that? Who's that girl?

Lluís, her name is Sofía.

She's in school with Osman and me.

Hey, why can't I see her face?

No, she's embarrassed.

I'm a professor, and I have to see

what my students look like.

Sofía!

Come on. Let's see you.

It's no big deal.

You just need to get dressed. That's it.

If not, what am I

Hey! How pretty!

How pretty you are! Hey!

Very good.

Listen, Sofía, where are you from exactly?

-With whom

-What, Mom?

Just a sec, Mom. I'm doing school stuff.

I'll look for it now.

Just a sec and I'll look for it.

No, I'll look for it now.

Axel, do you know what "Sofía" means?

Yeah, wisdom.

Exactly. "Love of wisdom."

But not the Sofía

you have there next to you.

Yeah, look.

This guy is called Carles.

In Spanish, it's Carlos.

And he got his degree

in cinematography.

Well, anyway.

I'm pleased to have spoken with you guys,

to have met you all,

at least to have seen your faces.

And, well.

That's it.

Whenever you want to talk about traveling

or whatever, just let me know.

Someday I'll come see you, Lluís. Someday.

Good, if I can

I'll come down to Málaga.

I want to travel.

Get in my car and travel a bit.

Well, go on now. You've got to study.

Time to go.

-That's right.

-Let's hang up, okay?

Yeah, see you later.

Let's hang up.

Okay, Lluís. Have a good day.

A last look at Sofía.

Sofía?

If my mom sees me, she'll k*ll me.

Very good, gorgeous!

Hey! What a dog!

What a dog!

I wish I were a dog!

Okay. Goodbye.

-That's it.

-How do you know those guys?

I've only spoken to them.

We've never had a video call before.

And this boy is very

Those kids don't know

they're talking to a criminal

who's been sentenced

to almost 24 years in jail.

Keep in mind

I don't film with a hidden camera.

Lluís is always fully aware

that I'm filming.

He's got a microphone on.

There's a tape recorder on the table

and a tripod filming a general shot.

I'm half a meter away from him

filming the whole time.

Moreover, Lluís is abusing

his power as a professor.

He's saying, "I'm a professor.

Turn on your camera."

It is just surreal to me

that this man is still free.

When I began, I planned not to intervene.

I just wanted to document the daily life

of a criminal who should be in jail.

That's it.

But now I see, if I don't intervene,

it's going to be a lot worse

for lots of kids.

He has to go to jail.

Hi, Carles.

I'm looking through the documents.

The lawyer you're about to see

isn't Lluís' current lawyer.

He was from 2011 to 2019.

And then he filed

an appeal to delay Lluís' incarceration.

Then he quit.

-Hello, good morning.

-Hello.

Are you recording?

-I'll do the clapboard.

-Yes. Perfect.

Is it normal for a trial involving minors

to last 10 or 12 years?

Unfortunately, yes.

A sentence was given in 2019.

There was a final ruling in 2021.

So the concerned parties and I

don't understand why Lluís

still hasn't gone to jail

after this final ruling.

The problem is that the defense attorney

raised some issues with the court

that could delay his incarceration.

Lluís told me that

they're filing medical appeals

to avoid or delay his incarceration.

Exactly.

Or even for humanitarian reasons

in the event that his illness is terminal,

and thus, it's not worth it

to incarcerate him.

Here, I have a clip I filmed the other day

of him talking to minors.

I'll show it to you if you like.

I have an ex-student named Belén.

She married a Moor.

I know why they marry Moors.

It's because they have half a meter dicks.

You just need to get dressed. That's it.

If not, what am I

Hey! How pretty!

-That's enough. Yeah.

-It goes from bad to worse.

What I told Mr. Gros was

please do not have any kind

of contact with minors

to avoid further issues.

First of all, for legal reasons,

but also for moral and ethical reasons.

Now that I've filmed

his continued contact with minors,

isn't there any injunction you could file

to end all communication with them?

We're talking

about a very broad injunction

that would limit his fundamental rights

and freedoms too much

as the person could not contact

anyone who isn't a victim

or isn't involved in the trial

and is a minor.

You can't prevent the crime.

The only thing you can do

is protect the victim.

'S STATEMEN

You testified that you worked

with the defendant.

-Yes.

-Can you specify the dates for us?

I started when I was 15.

-You were born in 1990.

-I was born in 1990,

so I was 15 in 2005.

How did you meet Lluís?

In Morocco, at my cousin's wedding.

My brother was already working for him.

I asked my brother,

"Does Lluís have any more work?"

And he said, "Ask him.

"He always has work for boys

handing out flyers."

Lluís gave me some photos,

I think, of Morocco.

-He spent a lot of summers there.

-On vacation?

Well, he went to visit

some of the other workers' relatives.

They really appreciated him there.

He brought the children gifts.

He always tried to be surrounded by kids.

You could definitely see that.

I can't judge, but when you know

the story of a person like that,

and you see him

in direct contact with kids,

it makes your hair stand on end

because you know

those kids could be

a pedophile's next victims.

I was, I am, a good friend of the family.

He was an intelligent boy.

We got along quite well, intellectually.

Can you tell us what happened when he was

-at your home in Sant Just Desvern?

-Yes.

Well, I went to buy some Cokes

In the house, at any time,

did you put p*nis in your mouth

and perform fellatio?

That is totally false. It's outlandish.

I kept working for him because I didn't

know where else to work or what to do.

I went and said to him, "Lluís,

I'm asking if we can please talk.

"You need to apologize to me

for what happened."

He asked me what I was talking about.

He flew into an incredible rage,

and that's when I finally quit.

And he would say that to your face

and make you feel powerless

because you're left with a dumb look

on your face like, "What's going on here?"

After reporting him, he threatened me

in voice notes saying

that even if he was in jail,

he would hire an assassin,

and that he had the money for it.

They're things you don't believe,

but when they affect you,

you start to fear for your life

and for your physical safety.

And according to Lluís, he threatened you

again years later during the trial.

I'm going to k*ll you when I see you.

Click, click, by phone,

during the actual trial.

The lawyer turned white

and said, "The prosecutor already knows

you've threatened a witness."

What did I say to him?

You can say whatever you want,

but the most important thing is

The most important thing is my honor!

As a person, nobody has the right,

even if it's true, to slander me

and go against a person's honor.

This is a criminal matter.

If not, look it up in the penal code.

When you reported it, did you think

it would go on so long?

The fact that it was a long trial

was torturous for me and, certainly,

for the other victims, too.

That's what makes me angry.

In those ten years,

it definitely happened to other boys.

And

it's very painful.

To know that

That I'm definitely not the only one.

That after me, there were other people.

That it could have been avoided.

But whatever.

I was thinking.

I was reflecting.

No, that little reflection thing

doesn't work.

I'm going to think again.

A pedophile who was sentenced to 24 years

asked me to make a documentary

investigating his case, and he signed

all the waivers for me to do so.

On the other hand, his victims,

who have nothing to hide,

are the ones who've asked me

to blur their faces,

and not to reveal

some of their names or surnames.

The ones who have nothing to hide

are the victims.

They've done nothing wrong.

They did what we all would've done

under those circumstances.

Lluís really is the villain in this story.

He's the one who should be asking me

to blur his face.

-Hello! Lluís?

-Yes.

-Yes, come in.

-The door is open.

-Yeah.

-It's Carles.

It's open. Come in.

What happened to your car?

As I pulled into the garage,

I hit the license plate reader.

It blew out one of my tires.

But, would you believe it?

That same day, I got distracted and hit

a parked bus.

And now I want to see

if it can all fit in the same place.

Well, miss, look, I had

Last Sunday,

I had a very unlucky car accident.

Okay, should we go?

If you come this way through the door,

that will be a really lovely shot.

MARKE

SANT JUST DESVERN

-What have you got?

-Whatever you want.

-Russian salad, right?

-Salmorejo for me.

-Okay?

-Good.

"We need you to call us

as soon as possible

"regarding a claim filed

against your vehicle."

What a drag.

I can take it there,

and the expert will come.

What a coincidence. Remember me?

Man!

-How are you?

-Do you remember me or not?

-Yes.

-Who am I?

-Who am I?

-I don't know.

You don't know? Should I remind you?

Come on. You can do it.

Come on!

-Since I've had this

-Yeah. Yeah.

-What's his name?

-You're spinning tales.

-This What?

-Who am I? Come on. Who am I?

I can even remember your car.

And your house in Sant Quirze.

-Well, the house in Sant Quirze

-I'm Álex.

Now, now.

-You remember?

-Yeah, man. Now I do.

-And you know you shouldn't even be here.

-My food.

You know you can't walk down the street

with your head held high.

-Listen to me.

-No, no. Look.

Listen, I'm with a guest. Okay?

-And I ask your guest to forgive me.

-No.

-But if I run into you

-Carles, wait.

If I see you in the street,

I won't miss the opportunity

-Okay. Come on.

-to humiliate you.

I hope you feel extremely embarrassed

and notice that I'm saying this in a low

voice so as not to embarrass you here.

But I should.

I should do it because

you are a f*cking danger to society.

-Do you understand? Is that clear?

-Yes. Okay.

-Okay? We're in a public place.

-Yeah.

-The municipal market.

-That's why I'm being discreet.

My mother died four days ago.

-I'm sorry.

-And I'm also really

I'm sorry because it wasn't her fault.

I'm sorry,

but that doesn't change anything.

-It doesn't change

-I'm upset about my mother.

You've been deranged your whole damn life.

Okay. Carles.

-Carles, sit down.

-This man

Don't come here and bother me, man.

-Don't bother me. I'm with a friend.

-Are you kidding me?

He's a child predator.

-Yeah, with a prison sentence

-Fine!

-due to a ruling in El Masnou.

-Listen.

-A final ruling of 24 years.

-From El Masnou?

And my case was before that.

-And I didn't report it at the time.

-Look, please

-Please go back to your seat.

-Yeah. Yeah.

-But, what happened?

-No! Nothing.

You're saying I don't know

what to a person.

Calm down. Relax.

I'm not the one

who has something to hide here.

-Right, okay. That's enough.

-Relax. That's enough. Relax.

God help me not to put my hands on you,

but if I can expose you,

I will.

He's a child molester.

His sentence has been passed.

Okay. That's enough.

-Yeah.

-Did you know him before that?

-You knew him?

-He was my teacher.

-And he was already a

-Did something happen?

-Yes.

-No, no. Carles.

You're ruining a friendship.

-I haven't yelled. I haven't yelled.

-Okay.

-I am going to yell.

-Fine. Then calm down.

I'm giving you the chance

to apologize to me.

Apologize to me for what happened.

Ask for my forgiveness.

I haven't caused a scene.

You're causing a scene.

I'm glad everyone will see your face

and know what you are. Okay?

I'm giving you the chance to apologize

and I'll go back to my table.

-I'm making it really easy for you.

-Wait.

-Let me tell you something

-No.

-No? I just want

-I don't want to listen to you.

-I'm apologizing now.

-You are a monster.

I don't want to listen to you.

I said apologize to me,

and I'll go back to my table.

I'm making it easy for you

because you should be in jail.

In jail. Nowhere else.

No! I don't want to hear your life story.

-I know that.

-Unfortunately, I'm locked up.

-You're what?

-I'm locked up.

-No.

-I'm locked up.

You're in a restaurant eating a meal

with your friend.

-Don't tell me

-Because they let me out.

Don't tell me your life story

because you should be in jail.

You should be in jail, in jail.

You must've explained it to your friend.

In jail, with a ruling.

I won't ask you why you're not in jail.

I'm not going to ask you.

I don't care.

I'm giving you the chance

-to apologize to me.

-Álex, right? That's it.

-Then I'll leave. Don't act like an idiot.

-Your name is Álex. Right.

I'm giving you the chance to apologize,

and I'll go away,

and you'll never see me again.

But apologize to me now. Apologize now.

I learned a lesson from you.

-Do you know which one?

-Look, Lluís.

I don't care what you've learned. Listen.

Don't mess with me.

-Are you going to apologize or

-Fine, I apologize.

I apologize with all my heart.

For me, you're accepting the facts.

I'm going right now to

-to my table to eat

-I'm sorry.

and leave, to get you out of my sight

and never see you again.

And if I do see you,

I hope it's in the newspaper saying,

"Lluís Gros has gone to prison,

blah, blah, blah."

Then I'll say, "I can rest."

-That's it. Okay, enjoy your meal.

-Okay.

I'll explain. Well.

Listen, Carles, eat up.

Damn, it's salty.

It's salty. Too bad the chicken is salty.

"Salty." It must have had cyanide.

Come on, bon appétit.

He's crazy.

I'll explain. I'll explain it to you now.

Listen.

It's very salty.

-It's what?

-Salty.

-It's inedible.

-Is it too salty?

It's too salty.

-He says it's really salty.

-Very salty.

-Spicy?

-No, not spicy. I like spicy.

Look.

My dead mother.

Look.

Does seeing her do anything to you?

-Does it?

-A little. Yeah.

-It's unnerving.

-It really is.

Look.

Look at her here.

Watch this for me?

I have to use the bathroom for a minute.

Go on. Go.

Hi, excuse me.

I'm the guy who was with Lluís just now.

-I'm a journalist.

-Yeah, I recognize you.

-You recognize me?

-Yeah.

Yeah, I recognized you.

Sorry for the interruption.

It's just that Lluís

You already know what he is,

and I couldn't help myself.

I'm doing a story about him,

and I wanted to ask for your contact info.

Yeah, sure.

Tomorrow, if you want,

I'll call you about it.

Whenever you want.

It was the late '80s.

There were no cell phones, no Internet.

I was 14 or 15.

He was running a summer camp.

I suppose he rented rooms

out to schools and whatnot.

I don't know.

He showed it to me,

like, "Look what I've got."

In that house, I perfectly recall

the moment I arrived and so forth,

and the events that occurred.

And a few months ago, I started looking

for summer camps in Sant Quirze.

In all the years that had passed,

it had never occurred to me

to type his name into Google.

I googled him

and a summer camp didn't come up.

What came up was

"Sentenced to 24 years in jail

in El Masnou."

It was 2:00 in the morning.

I got up and I said, "Good Lord!"

Of course, I didn't know

there had been more known cases.

And I saw he had already been sentenced.

I started to read about El Masnou.

I said, "Of course, dude! The movies."

It was the same modus operandi

he used with me.

Do you know how long he had

the summer camp hostel?

No, I have no idea.

See if it helps to get more people to come

forward because they definitely exist.

In the 25 years or 20 years

between the events

Carles, there have to be more.

Do you see here that it says "before"?

Here's the history of my town, Sant Just.

And there was a time

I was singing here with the Caramelles.

I directed that group of kids

and I was caught off guard.

120 boys and 120 girls. You see?