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01x06 - Europe Under Siege

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Genghis Khan: The Secret History of the Mongols". Aired: May 1, 2025.*
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01x06 - Europe Under Siege

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NARRATOR: The mighty warrior,

Genghis Khan is dead,

and the Mongolian empire is

ruled by his son, Ogodei.

PROF SNEATH: It seemed as

if it was chalk and cheese.

Very different personal

qualities

between these two men.

NARRATOR: A wise

yet drunken ruler.

Ogodei Khan has built

a Mongolian capital

called Karakorum.

DR FAVERAU: Ogodei,

had a bigger vision

of what they could achieve

NARRATOR: Under his watch,

the Empire has expanded

dramatically,

and it continues to grow by

trade and also by force.

DR FAVERAU: They

felt under Ogodei,

'Well, who is going

to stop us?'

NARRATOR: Ogodei

Khan's nephew, Batu,

has gathered a great army

to capture more territory,

and with veteran General

Subutai at his side,

he has crushed the nomads

of the Northern steppes.

Now Batu and Subutai stand at

the brink of a new conquest

more colossal than either

could have imagined.

DR MAY: The Mongols,

their perspective was,

'We are meant to

rule the world.

You can either submit

or you can die'.

NARRATOR: Led by Chinggis

Khan's grandson, Batu,

the Mongolian army has traveled

deep into foreign lands.

Having defeated the nomads

of the Northern Steppes,

they now stand on the

border of Kievan-Rus,

a territory that today

comprises Western Russia,

Ukraine and Belarus.

Rich with people and goods,

it proves a tempting target.

After they deal with much of

the Steppes they do decide,

'as long as we're here,

let's go after these cities'.

PROF SNEATH: The size of the

army is probably something

like 120,000.

Batu Khan being of royal

blood, the Royal House,

grandson of Genghis, is

nominally in command

of the Mongol invasion

force, but his advisor,

Subutai is probably the

best of the Mongol generals.

He dates right back, He was

one of Chinggis Khan's

original commanders, and he

was the real strategist

and military genius behind

the Mongol invasion

of what became Russia.

DR FAVERAU: We always wonder

how the Mongol could conquer

so many different peoples, in

rather short amount of time,

and there is clearly

one explanation.

They know how to

fight in winter.

They really decided on

the decision of w*r,

people in village,

people in cities,

they don't fight in winter,

usually they don't know

how to organize themselves.

They are puzzled.

They are scared to do it.

The Mongols force them to fight

when they are not ready for it.

Mongols really can

stand a harsh cold,

and they are able also to

walk and fight on the ice.

PROF SNEATH: Being used

themselves to operate

in icy conditions, the Mongols

had no trouble operating

in this frozen landscape.

DR MAY: When they invade

Russia, the rivers are frozen.

That makes some highways

they can easily cross.

DR FAVERAU: If you look

at Central or Asia,

you see all those big rivers.

Imagine crossing this

when it's summertime.

Logistic is crazy.

PROF SNEATH: The ice was so

thick that it could support

men, horses, carts and so

on, to both cross them,

but also in some places,

to move along them.

DR FAVERAU: It transformed

central Eurasia into a place

where nothing can stop them.

PROF SNEATH: At the time,

the area that was known

as Kievan-Rus were actually

a set of principalities.

Each one usually had a city

and a series of local rulers,

almost like city states.

This set of principalities

now lay in the crosshairs

as the next target for

a Mongol invasion.

NARRATOR: The Mongols

breach the frozen borders

of Kievan-Rus, and descend

mercilessly on the city

of Ryazan, encircling

it, entrapping

the terrified inhabitants

within its walls.

DR MAY: The Mongols, typically,

before they would attack

anywhere, would give them

an option of surrender.

They would send envoys,

typically included someone

who could speak the

local language.

In one case with the Rus,

we do have a female envoy.

Now in the Rus sources, she's

described as a sorceress.

It's Orthodox Christianity,

'thou shalt not suffer

a witch to live', and

so they k*ll her.

And of course, if you

k*ll a Mongol envoy,

you've basically sealed

your own death warrant.

NARRATOR: Avenging the

death of their envoy,

the Mongol forces

besiege Ryazan.

After days of

fierce bombardment,

the city falls and is

burned to the ground.

The royal family is ex*cuted,

the population slaughtered,

all to send a gruesome

warning to nearby cities

surrender or die.

DR FAVERAU: Their longer

way of w*r that you see

in the Russian principalities

is trying to make them

understand they have not a

chance against the Mongol,

and force them to open

up the city doors.

The victory is a victory when

the city is not destroyed,

it's left untouched

and unarmed.

Some thought it's better

to align with the Mongol.

Some others said,

okay, no way.

We can't let them conquer us.

PROF SNEATH: This is

a really major force,

and it's able to overwhelm one

Russian city after then next.

Ryazan, Suzdal, Rostov.

One after another, they fall

to the invading Mongol army.

DR MAY: I really doubt that

the Rus were caught unaware.

They had to be aware

of the Mongols.

They certainly would have

heard at least something

and people fleeing

from the Mongols,

I don't think they

fully appreciated

the magnitude of the

Mongol threat.

NARRATOR: Having refined

the art of warfare

under Chinggis Khan

and his son Ogodei,

the Mongols have become an

unstoppable force.

Their battle tactics,

unrivaled.

City after city

crumbles before them.

They use a terrifying

encircling technique

against their prey. It

is called the Nerge.

DR MAY: The Nerge

is a hunting circle.

You have many guys who form a

line that eventually forms

a circle, and then that circle

draws in and contracts,

driving the game

into a center area.

All of the riders in the

Nerge have to maintain

their line and prevent any

animal from escaping.

Now, instead of herding

animals, you're herding people.

So you can control the

movement of people.

You can drive people from

outlying villages into cities,

and the Mongols are doing

this on a scale that spans

hundreds of miles.

They're attacking

multiple points.

They're preventing any

unity of the Kievan-Rus

principalities from forming.

NARRATOR: Thanks to

their unmatched skills

on the b*ttlefield, the Mongols

continue to advance across

the land, destroying cities

that refuse to surrender.

Moscow shares this

dreadful fate.

DR FAVERAU: So Moscow, at that

time, it was made of wood.

DR MAY: Of course, there

are some stone buildings,

but mainly wood, because

they're in a forest and well,

you have plenty of wood

to make cities with.

And they typically always

allow people to escape,

because you can't sow terror

unless there are survivors.

PROF SNEATH: Up

north in Novgorod,

the rulers simply

surrenders to them,

which undoubtedly would have

been sacked along with

the rest if they didn't put

up any kind of resistance.

NARRATOR: This invasion

leaves a trail of destruction,

permanently reshaping

Kievan-Rus.

Yet contrary to popular

belief, the Mongols

were not merely

agents of death.

DR MAY: They did destroy,

but where they saw it

as important, they

also rebuilt.

DR FAVERAU: Reconstruction

starts very quickly,

also after the conquest.

Destructions come quick,

but reconstructions

come even quicker.

DR MAY: They did not

want to live in cities.

They did understand their

importance and would take

steps to help these towns

recover, because they viewed

it as integral for trade,

which brought in more wealth

for the Mongols.

PROF SNEATH: After the Mongol

conquest, very frequently,

local rulers were allowed to

get on with ruling their own

local areas that provided

they swore fealty

to the Mongol Khans. Their

tribute had to be delivered.

Orders had to be obeyed,

but there wasn't very much

by way of direct

Mongol administration

of those Rus areas.

They basically they were either

k*lled or they swore fealty

to the new overlords.

NARRATOR: Whether through

annihilation or surrender,

cities of Kievan-Rus fall

one by one

to the unstoppable armies

of the Mongolian empire.

Their invasion of the

West has only just begun.

In the wake of their initial

victories in Kievan-Rus

the Mongolian army under the

command of Ogodei Khan's

nephew, Batu, settle

in the Don Basin.

They must rest and regroup

if they are to take

their campaign deeper

into foreign lands.

PROF SNEATH: These were lands

that could easily be used

for Mongol rulers themselves

to their own royal centers,

and frequently they did

actually live in and around

these grassland regions.

And it's from there

that Batu Khan himself,

once he's established

power in the region,

exercised indirect control

over the principalities

of the Rus in the North.

DR FAVERAU: The family

come, they join, actually.

They don't go on the

b*ttlefield, of course,

but they organize a camp.

So the Mongol warriors are

not alone and fighting,

but they have the logistic

of the family behind them,

which helped them

just to get the food.

Also, it's part of the

logistic of the armies.

So, it's a very different

type of w*r.

NARRATOR: As the

Mongol force rests,

maintaining control over the

Kievan-Rus principalities

requires an intricate web of

contacts, envoys and spies.

One such figure rumored to

have joined Batu service

is an English knight.

PROF SNEATH: There's only a

few fragments of information

about this Englishman who seems

to end up in the service

of Batu Khan.

It's speculated that he

might have been originally

from the Crusades.

At some point in the Holy Land,

he detached himself, got lost.

JOHN: They were adept

at taking on anybody

who was willing to speak to

them about what was happening

in foreign parts.

And he's a bit of an

aristocratic down and out

who was extremely

good at languages.

PROF SNEATH: He probably

was engaged in translating

material and gathering

information,

intelligence information

for Batu Khan.

Batu and Subutai were making

use of various kinds of

networks and connections

to gather information

about the European kingdoms

that they now faced.

NARRATOR: Operating

on a wide front,

the Mongols attack the

remaining cities

of the Kievan Rus and

their biggest target

will be their religious

and cultural capital.

DR MAY: You have Mongol

armies from the North,

you have Mongol armies

coming up from Steppe,

and they all converge on Kiev.

PROF SNEATH: Kiev was the

center of Christian learning

at the time, sort of glittering

golden center, most famous,

largest, richest of

these principalities.

DR MAY: The prince of Kiev,

he flees and leaves them

to their fate.

PROF SNEATH: There's the

usual kind of m*ssacre

after Kiev falls.

DR MAY: Many people take

refuge in the many churches

of Kiev, thinking, well,

that they'll be safe there.

Those churches are

also made out of wood.

Rather than trying to cut

through and you know bust

the doors open, they'll just

light up the churches.

PROF SNEATH: Particularly

shocking to many

of the Chronicles, since they

were frequently churchmen,

was the sacking of

churches and Cathedrals.

Mongols had very little

respect, really

for this particular religion.

NARRATOR: The Mongolian

siege of Kiev was their most

ruthless yet, and the

savage aftermath

would remain a warning

for years to come.

DR MAY: Later, in the mid-1240s

we have a Franciscan friar,

a missionary, who's also

serving as a papal envoy

to the Mongols. He's

traveling through

and as he's approaching Kiev,

long before he

ever reaches Kiev,

he just sees rows and

rows of skeletons,

just bones scattered on

the approaches to Kiev,

which gives us an idea of

the size of the m*ssacre.

With the Rus conquered,

now what?

Well they could

continue going west.

PROF SNEATH: Having

moved through Russia,

they're really on

the fringes of

what we would think

of as Europe now.

Refugees had started to pour

into neighboring areas,

particularly Hungary.

Béla the Fourth, the

ruler of Hungary,

was faced with refugees and

nobles and Royals rocking up

on his borders, begging

for entry for refuge

from the invading

Mongol army.

So, there was already, kind

of, shock waves radiating out

from the Mongol conquests.

NARRATOR: Batu and Subutai

have overrun the Kievan-Rus

who have destroyed their

cultural capital.

Refugees from their destructive

campaigns have fled

to Hungary in the hope it

will provide refuge,

but there will be no escape

from the Mongol onslaught.

DR MAY: The Kingdom of Hungary

was a very powerful kingdom,

and had been making inroads

into the southern steps around

the Black Sea, trying to

extend their influences.

And the Hungarians knew

the Mongols were coming.

You have refugees

coming in from the Rus.

You have Kipchaks

fleeing from the Rus.

NARRATOR: The nomadic

Kipchaks people had suffered

the invasion of Batu's forces

when his campaign first

pushed into the West.

Their survivors now seek

sanctuary in Hungary.

PROF SNEATH: The Mongols had

demanded them back because

they considered them to

be runaway subjects,

but Béla the fourth,

the King of Hungary,

won't send back

the Kipchaks.

Probably couldn't,

they're very powerful.

They're already

on his territory,

so he instead tried to shelter

them and also make use of them.

They could provide the same

kind of military skills

as the Mongols themselves had.

The threatening messages that

Béla the fourth received

from the Mongols left him in

no doubt that he could expect

to be attacked next.

DR FAVERAU: They want

him k*lled basically,

because they say this, this

guy did not submit to us.

So, they have one thing in

mind is really to get rid of

this powerful king.

DR MAY: And so the

Mongols invade.

NARRATOR: The Mongolian

forces not only raid Hungary,

but their neighbor, Poland

too, invading to prevent them

from helping King Béla.

JOHN: The invasion incorporated

two great columns.

DR MAY: They'll send a

small army to Poland,

and then the main army,

led by Batu and Subutai,

goes into Hungary.

JOHN: And these two were

somehow in communication

with each other. There were

messengers galloping

between the two that each

know where the other was.

DR MAY: In Poland 1241, we

had the Battle of Liegnitz.

PROF SNEATH: This is a typical

Central or Eastern European

army of the time.

DR MAY: Polish knights,

Teutonic Knights,

maybe a handful of Templars.

Peasant levies.

Then the Mongol army

of maybe 20,000 men.

The Mongols approach,

they're sh**ting arrows

at the lines of the Europeans.

And then the Knights

were restless,

and they charged the Mongols.

The Knights have the Mongols

fleeing for their lives,

and then we see

that it's a trap.

Before they know it, Mongol

cavalry are attacking

their flanks. They're

sh**ting arrows.

Once they start breaking up,

it's individual warriors

on their own.

JOHN: The Knights were

vastly over armored

and extremely cumbersome.

Of course, the Mongolians

and their small ponies

could gallop in and out of

their ranks extremely easily.

And once upset, a Polish

knight was an easy victim.

NARRATOR: A finely

honed w*r machine.

The Mongols wield a

relentless arsenal of tactics

that the Polish knights

are unable to counter.

DR MAY: There are Mongol

riders with these pots

that are billowing smoke.

They're making a

smoke screen.

The infantry can't see what's

happening on the other part

of the b*ttlefield.

They can hear the screams,

and then out of the smoke,

you see Mongol riders coming

with lances and swords.

As they charge, they maintain

silence until shortly

before contact where they

lit out a scream of "ure",

from once we get

the words 'Hurray',

it's a Mongol battle cry.

And then they hit you, and

there's also Mongol riders

flanking you, going around you,

and this army is decimated.

PROF SNEATH: Mongol

forces easily destroyed

the Polish ones at Liegnitz.

They faced little chance

against a really well-oiled

and practiced Mongol

military machine,

which was probably really

far more sophisticated

and definitely

more experienced.

NARRATOR: Batu and Subutai

armies cannot be stopped.

News of their military

success eventually reaches

their powerful leader, Ogodei

Khan, who is thousands

of miles away in Mongolia's

new capital city, Karakorum.

DR MAY: Ogodei remains

in Karakorum in Mongolia

while the European

campaign is going on.

He has been in power

for about five years.

He's not going on

campaign anymore.

PROF SNEATH: There are

accounts of Ogodei

being advised to leave the

campaigning to others

and to concentrate himself

on just having a good time,

probably in and around,

Karakorum his capital.

DR MAY: He's ruling.

He's working on the

administration.

He's dealing with merchants.

He's dealing with other

people who come to Karakorum.

PROF SNEATH: The Empire is

expanding so quickly that

to be an imperial overlord, to

exercise some kind of influence

and control over all

these moving parts.

It was quite politically

astute to take up residence

in the center.

DR MAY: He's enjoying

a good life.

Ogodei has sort of a popular

image of being the jolly drunk.

He seems jovial in many

of the sources, humorous.

As they expand, they have new

forms of alcohol coming into

the Mongol Empire and

to the Mongol court.

And the great thing about

being the Khan is you get

the best of everything.

So Ogodei has his choice of new

alcohols to try and try he does.

NARRATOR: Ogodei is a lover

of indulgence and excess,

yet beneath his drunken facade

lies the mind of a sharp

tactician, and he governs

wisely with his wife Töregene

serving as a vital counselor.

DR DASHDONDOG: She was also main

ruler of the Mongol Empire.

She had a great influence on

the decisions of the Khan.

Any deals with the religion,

she would deal with their own

issues and say just

how to pacify them,

how to solve these issues

and how it would be done.

DR FAVERAU: With Ogodei

there's also a lot of time

at court for arts, music,

dance, wrestling.

The Mongols are probably the

richest people on earth

at that time, people would come

from far away trying to get

into the Mongol land and

discover the life there,

integrating new habits,

new fashion, new foods.

Karakorum, it becomes

a real city.

PROF SNEATH: Ogodei consolidated

a lot of the Mongol Empire,

and we know that he

introduced new reforms.

He introduced various kinds of

taxes and generally attended

to management and

administration of this

now increasingly vast empire.

He established the

Yam relay system,

an extraordinary network

of relay stations,

which meant that messages could

be sent across 1000s of miles

extremely rapidly by a sort

of Pony Express relay

of messengers, swapping horses

every 15 or 20 miles across

vast distances.

DR FAVERAU: And that's also

changed the face of trade

in central Eurasia developed

up to the Abbasid Caliphate,

up to Middle East.

It covered now middle

Eurasia as well,

and certainly more of China.

NARRATOR: These new horse and

rider relays not only ensure

control over the empire, but

enabled swift coordination

between Mongol forces

during their conquests.

PROF SNEATH: The Mongol military

machine was in many ways,

far superior to anything

available to European rulers

at that time, they got really

well tested and developed

systems for coordinating large

numbers of troops they could

and did operate in independent

columns that struck different

targets and then rendezvoused.

NARRATOR: It is through these

carefully coordinated assaults

that Ogodei is able to strike

against numerous foes.

During his reign, he sends

forces against Korea, Georgia,

Armenia and the Song

Dynasty of China.

Yet his greatest w*r is

the one led by Subutai

and Batu against King

Béla of Hungary,

who was supported by a

fearsome army

bolstered with

Kipchak refugees.

DR MAY: So we turn our

gaze to Hungary King Béla.

He views the Kipchaks as a

valuable military asset.

He's gathered his army.

It's a large army,

maybe 70,000

immense for a European

army at this time.

NARRATOR: The enormous

Hungarian army has a deep

understanding of the

surrounding lands and rivers,

giving them a huge

tactical advantage.

This will be Batu and

Subutai toughest battle yet.

DR MAY: They've reached a

point by the Sajó River,

known as Mohi.

PROF SNEATH: They've got a

kind of strong hold next

to the river that they

were trying to defend.

DR DASHDONDOG: When Mongols

approached to this river,

there was only one bridge

which Béla people burned it

so Mongols couldn't cross it.

PROF SNEATH: Nevertheless,

Batu Khan advances

and engages the

Hungarian force.

DR MAY: They attack

and initially, that's not

working out, and

eventually they'll decide

they're going to advance

with a rolling barrage.

NARRATOR: Batu sends wave

after wave of battle-hardened

warriors to break the

Hungarian forces.

PROF SNEATH: This was one way

in which battle could inflict

casualties on the defenders

in the course of the battle.

While Subutai crosses

the river further down,

circles around the back and

eventually pins the Hungarians

up against the river.

DR MAY: The Hungarians had

taken all their wagons

formed a circle, essentially

a fortified it,

so you can't just charge in.

So the Mongols encircle

it, tried to draw

the Hungarians out.

PROF SNEATH: It was

actually touch and go.

It was by no means certain

that the Mongols were going

to win in this case.

DR MAY: The Hungarians notice

there appears to be a gap

in the Mongol lines.

So, they can either sit here

and wait for the Mongols

to wear them down, or they can

try to fight their way out

towards that gap.

Unfortunately for

them, it was a trap.

It's always easier to k*ll

people when they're running

away and not fighting back,

so then your riders

can just ride them down.

PROF SNEATH: It ends in

a really unmistakable

and decisive Mongol victory.

DR DASHDONDOG: One of the

main examples of great

strategies of Subutai

PROF SNEATH: A kind of brilliant

campaign that illustrates

many of the strengths of the

Mongol method of w*r.

It was a comprehensive

Mongol victory,

but Béla the fourth of

Hungary, the king, escapes.

DR FAVEREAU: One of the

rare, you know, rulers

who really managed

to escape the Mongols.

PROF SNEATH: The fleet

of the Hungarians

of the armies scattered.

Batu extends control

over most of Hungary.

NARRATOR: The Mongols

ravage Hungary,

besieging and

leveling its cities.

In the aftermath

of the invasion,

a quarter of the population

of Hungary is left dead,

either slaughtered in battle

or starved by the crippling

famine that sweeps

across the land.

DR FAVEREAU: Now, Mongols are

really close to Western Europe.

DR MAY: It looks like maybe

they're going to invade Austria.

There are Mongol riders

seen near Vienna.

JOHN: At that point, the rest

of Europe has gone berserk

with the fear of what's

about to descend on them.

PROF SNEATH: There are these

scaremongering accounts

emerging of this

kind of diabolical,

devilish people arriving from

the east and Christendom

itself being under threat.

DR MAY: Naturally, people

are looking for scapegoats.

We have two of the most

influential figures,

the Pope and the

Holy Roman Emperor,

squabbling over

whose fault it is.

And next thing you know, both

of them are declaring crusades.

We get all sorts of fears

being played out in letters

going back and forth between

rulers, between priests,

between monks.

PROF SNEATH: This becomes a sort

of moment of heightened panic.

It seems that no one can

stop these strange invaders

from the East.

DR MAY: Wherever

the Mongols go,

whether it's the Islamic

world, the Orthodox world,

or Catholic Christendom,

there's an apocalyptic

sense of dread.

PROF SNEATH: Rulers across

Europe begin to wonder how

and if the invaders

can be stopped.

By 1241, the Mongol Empire is

kind of at its zenith to date.

It includes an enormous amount

of territory stretching

from the edges of Hungary and

Poland right across Eurasia

to Korea in the east.

So this is a colossal

continent spanning empire

that has been forged in

an extraordinarily

short space of time.

DR MAY: There is now no

threat to those new lands

the Mongol has conquered,

whether it's the Kievan Rus

lands or the Kipchak steps.

DR FAVEREAU: The Mongols,

they don't have to prove

they can move the

will, it's clear.

NARRATOR: Ogodei Khan is the

most powerful man in the world.

He stands on the precipice

of conquering Europe.

His armies seemingly

unstoppable.

PROF SNEATH: At this moment in

1241, Ogodei Khan himself dies.

JOHN: He was a

notorious drunkard

and basically died of drink.

PROF SNEATH: It's pretty

certain that his lifestyle

led to his relatively

early death.

He seemed to have

indulged himself freely

in all sorts of past times.

No surprise perhaps that he

didn't live to a ripe old age.

DR MAY: There are some rumors

that maybe he was poisoned.

There are some things that he

might have done to diminish

the power and authority

of his sister,

Al-Altan and some

other sisters.

They had significant influence

and often returned to court.

And so there's a question of

maybe one of them got fed up

with Ogodei's grasping hands

at trying to accumulate

more power and territory,

taking away from his sisters

and so one of them

poisoned him.

There's also a possibility

that maybe his wife, Töregene,

poisoned him.

PROF SNEATH: After the

death of her husband,

she helps run the Imperial

bureaucracy and prepare

for the Kurultai, where the

new Emperor will be decided.

DR DASHDONDOG:

All Mongol Khan's,

they have to nominate the

successors, he didn't.

He thought he would live

longer, so he didn't mention

his successor.

DR MAY: Maybe Töregene decided,

maybe she should step in

and help her number one

son take the throne.

PROF SNEATH: So with

the death of Ogodei,

the question of

who will succeed,

this becomes a

central feature.

What other noble houses,

the other royal branches

of the family, also definitely

had ambitions here.

DR FAVEREAU: Political

tension among the Mongols.

So the conquest stopped.

w*r stopped because Mongols

need to gather to organize

a great assembly, great

Kurultai and decide

who's going to be next.

PROF SNEATH: The main princes

as well as the top commanders

and nobles return to Mongolia

to begin the process of working

on the succession, trying to

come to some accommodation

between the different factions

within the empire so that

a new emperor can be crowned.

The Mongol Empire is

poised it seems to invade

and conquer much, or

possibly all, of Europe.

DR MAY: But individuals like

Subutai would have to go back

for a Kurultai to

select a new ruler.

PROF SNEATH: It looks like

the news of Ogodei's death

reaches the Mongol armies in

Europe, probably in 1242,

and that's when the

withdrawal begins

from the eastern

part of Europe.

DR MAY: But they decided to

abandon these conquest.

NARRATOR: Although Europe

is within their grasp,

Subutai and Batu must

abandon their campaign,

summoned to Karakorum

to choose the next Khan.

Europe has been saved by

Ogodei untimely death.

DR FAVEREAU: It will never

try after that to get back

to Hungary, but they will

never go on in the West,

because they consider that

this is a solid border

that worked well.

PROF SNEATH: So, it's a really

fascinating question as

to whether or not the Mongols

could have conquered Europe

if Ogodei had not died and

the Mongol w*r machine

had continued to roll west.

It's by no means certain that

the Mongols would have been

stopped if they continued.

Certainly, if you look at the

sophistication of their armies,

excellent and very

developed communication,

it's actually quite possible

that they could have defeated

any of the European armies that

were fielded against them.

NARRATOR: Ogodei Khan

is dead.

His sudden death has left the

Mongolians without a successor,

paralyzing their

military expansion.

However, despite this turmoil,

the Empire remains unmatched

in scale and power.

PROF SNEATH: Father and son,

Chinggis Khan and Ogodei Khan,

have, between them, forged

and then consolidated about

the largest contiguous land

empire to date in the Eurasian

continent, all the way

from Korea and the East

right through to

Hungary in the West.

So this is an extraordinary

achievement.

DR FAVEREAU: The significance

of the Mongol Empire

in global history is

huge, and actually

it has been

rediscovered in a way.

Actually we think today we

saw in that it's comparable

to Roman Empire or

Ottoman Empire.

DR DASHDONDOG: The

Mongols shaped the world

which we know today.

URADYN: There wouldn't be

Russian, rural Russian,

without a Mongol conquest,

there wouldn't be Iran, Iraq,

you know, all these Middle

Eastern people without Mongol

conquest, there wouldn't

be Central Asia

without a Mongol conquest.

Korea, Japan, were very

much defined, you know,

who they are in relation

to the Mongolians.

DR FAVEREAU: Nationalistic

discourse, they would say,

well, Mongol period is the

worst period for us.

Because of them, we didn't

get into modernity

as quickly as we should have.

It has to be seen as a

negative period of history.

And now, of course,

thanks to the work also

of many researchers, it's really

an international endeavor,

we really are able to show

and prove, based on fact,

that it's a very rich

period of human history

with a lot of development

in many, many ways.

They put together cultures,

religions, peoples.

They had their own taste.

They had their own

vision of things.

So, they are very active

in art, in science.

Cartography was super

important for them.

So they mapped the world

differently under the Mongols.

So the vision we have

of the world really

is coming from the

Mongol period.

MRS TSEDEVDAMBA: Mongolia

today is the heartland

where everything started.

So where built Chinggis

his own country,

where Chinggis Khan Tribe

started its journey.

We are a proud continuation

of Chinggis Khan's legacy.

PROF SNEATH: Ogodei Khan is

definitely eclipsed, I think,

now in the historical memory

by his father, Chinggis Khan.

Chinggis Khan was this

continent spanning conqueror.

He'd come from a really

difficult position,

an exiled prince who'd become

this unbelievably successful

and powerful Emperor.

Where Chinggis had this

hardness, this will to succeed,

this will to power, Ogodei

was easy going, charming,

indulgent and self-indulgent.

So it seemed as if it

was chalk and cheese,

very different kinds

of personal qualities

between these two men.

But it has to be said

that Chinggis Khan began

the process, but the area

under proper Mongol Imperial

administration almost

doubled during the period

of Ogodei Khan's reign.

DR FAVEREAU: I don't think

that Chinggis Khan

ever thought like

conquering the world,

but I think that he thought,

I'm going to conquer

the nomadic world,

which was the most

important world for him.

Ogodei, he had a bigger vision

of what he could achieve,

because the Mongol armies

they've been so far,

maybe even felt under Ogodei,

well, who's going to stop us?

NARRATOR: In just

two generations,

the Mongolian empire has

grown from a group of warring

factions into one of the most

powerful forces on Earth,

guided by its future Khans,

its expansion will continue,

shaping it into the greatest

empire humanity has ever known.

PROF SNEATH: It's impossible

to find a good parallel

with the scope and scale

of this imperial conquest,

but all of that began with

The story of Chinggis Khan.