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03x05 - Nitosha Lee Flug-Presley and Alice Ruggles

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "K*llers: Caught on Camera". Aired: February 15, 2023.*
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03x05 - Nitosha Lee Flug-Presley and Alice Ruggles

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[THEME MUSIC]

NARRATOR: This time
on "K*llers Caught on Camera,"

in St. Paul, Minnesota,
a night out ends in slaughter.

- Local law enforcement
could smell the blood.

OFFICER: Definite b*llet wound
to the right side of the face.

- It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make any sense.

NARRATOR: And in the Northeast
of England,

a relationship disintegrates.

- No matter what she does,
he will always be watching,

and she can't hide from him.

[DRAMATIC MUSIC]

MAN: It just sounds
like something

bad is happening to her.

WOMAN: We know what
happened because the video

tells us what happened.

MAN: I heard some g*nshots.

OFFICER: Drop it!

Whatever is, drop it!

MAN: That does not prove
that I k*lled my wife.

MAN: The camera doesn't lie.

NARRATOR: In farm
country Western Wisconsin

is Dunn County.

In September 2021,
the tranquility

of this quiet agricultural
community was shattered.

- On September


who was working in a cornfield
noticed some tire tracks.

He followed the tracks,
and he found a black Mercedes.

There was a woman slumped over
in the front passenger seat.

NARRATOR: Sheriff's
deputies responded

to the macabre discovery.

COLIN HALEY: Local law
enforcement approached

the SUV in the cornfield.

And as he got closer
to that vehicle,

he could smell the blood
because there was so much of it

located inside the car.

- There were actually four
people in the vehicle.

- One woman
in the front passenger

seat, and then two men and one
woman in the back seat.

NARRATOR: All four victims
shot dead at close range.

COLIN HALEY: This is
a rural town in Wisconsin

that probably doesn't have
a m*rder every decade,

let alone four at one time.

And so the local response must
have been absolutely shocked,

wondering, how could
this happen here.

NARRATOR: Investigators began
the grim task of searching

the vehicle for answers.

- All the victims had
identification on them.

They were able to ascertain the
victim's identity right away.

ANDREW JOHNSON:
Nitosha Flug-Presley

was in the front
seat slumped over.

There was Jasmine Sturm,
who was in the passenger

side rear seat.

Loyace Foreman, III who was
found in the middle back seat.

And then Matthew
Pettus was located

behind the driver's seat.

NARRATOR: All four lived 60
miles East in a close community

in St. Paul, Minnesota.

- My brother Matt
had a big heart.

He was very kind.

- [SINGING] Running
across the meadow

- He had a great head
on his shoulders,

and he just offered the best
feedback and advice.

CHRISTI FLUG: Nitosha,
she had a smile

that lit up the whole room.

She had a beautiful
personality.

She was the life of the party.

ANGELA STURM: Jasmine
and Loyace were dating.

Actually, they were
probably gonna get married.

He was soft spoken, kind.

Jasmine said, you
know, Mom, I actually--

I think I could spend
my life with this man.

Jasmine and Nitosha
met in grade school

and just became fast friends.

They're like sisters--
or were like sisters.

NARRATOR: All four victims
were parents of young children.

DAMONE PRESLEY: Nitosha
was an excellent mother.

I seen that she
took pride in that.

She was very warm, loving.

ALL: [SINGING]
--birthday to

you Yay!

[APPLAUSE]

Yay, Madison.

- Jasmine was very
in tune with the children

and helping them learn
how to make decisions

and give them choices.

Matthew has always
wanted to have children.

He always wanted to be
married and have a big family.

So when his girlfriend
found out she was pregnant,

he was ecstatic.

- Oh.

[LAUGHS]

ANGELA STURM: The baby
was a year old

when Matt was taken away.

DAMONE PRESLEY: I
got a call from Mom.

She could barely talk.

And she just said,
Nitosha was m*rder*d.

Um, and I just hung up.

It's got to be a mistake.

Unbelievable.

This is not true.

You know, why would
somebody hurt my baby.

Um--

COLIN HALEY: At the time
that the bodies were found

in the SUV, it would have been
anybody's guess whether or not

they were k*lled in that
car, in the cornfield

or somewhere along the way from
wherever they were traveling.

NARRATOR: Back
at the crime scene,

investigators found
further potential clues--

cell phones, six shell
casings, and receipts

from earlier that
night, including

one from a bar in St. Paul.

- There was also
a state-issued identification

card for a person
by the name of Antoine Suggs,

covered in blood.

So where is Mr. Suggs?

And what is his identification
card doing in this vehicle?

NARRATOR: Investigators found
that Antoine Suggs arrived

at the airport in St.
Paul late on the night

of September 9, three
days before the bodies

were discovered.

- The next step
for law enforcement

is to try and figure out
how and when and why the car

got to Dunn County, Wisconsin.

And that's where the technology
side of police investigations

really ends up helping here.

NARRATOR: Sheriff's deputies
in Wisconsin contacted

local businesses hoping
to find CCTV evidence

of the Black Mercedes.

ANDREW JOHNSON: One
of the first videos

that investigators turned
up was from a gas station

in Wheeler, Wisconsin, which is
a short drive away from where

the vehicle was found.

NARRATOR: One hour
before the Mercedes was

found in the cornfield,
it was filmed

pulling in alongside another
vehicle, a black Nissan.

COLIN HALEY: There
was some interaction

between the person driving
the Nissan Rogue and the person

driving the Mercedes SUV.

It would appear as though
these two people know

each other, for lack
of a better term,

in cahoots with one another.

- This was hugely important
because while we couldn't

see the face of the driver
of the Mercedes,

we could see the face of the
person that was with him.

NARRATOR: Investigators
visited the gas station.

- And local law enforcement
did observe what

they believed to be blood.

That would be consistent with
coming from that Mercedes SUV.

NARRATOR: The video
also revealed

another disturbing detail.

ANDREW JOHNSON: If you
look really carefully,

just for a quick split
second, you can see

Nitosha's body slumped over.

- It would seem as though
that the person that

was driving the Mercedes
SUV and the person that's

driving the Nissan Rogue
had some sort of a plan

to dispose of these
four victims,

and then the person
driving the SUV

would hop into the Nissan
Rogue and skedaddle.

- Two of the victims were
wearing shirts for Shamrocks,

which is a bar in St. Paul.

And there were also
receipts in the vehicle

for various locations
around St. Paul, Minnesota.

[THEME MUSIC]

- The area where
Shamrocks Bar is,

which is where Jasmine
and Matthew worked,

is not known to be
a high crime area.

NARRATOR: Investigators
confirmed all four victims were

drinking at Shamrock's Bar.

SHEILA LAMBIE:
Then we knew they

went over to the White
Squirrel, which

is another local St Paul bar.

What happened after
the White Squirrel?

Where did they go?

- There was a camera
on the firehouse

adjacent to the White Squirrel.

NARRATOR: In the early
hours at 1:23, a black

Mercedes parked outside.

Another male then
joined the friends

in the bar, someone who, it
seems, was known to Nitosha.

ANDREW JOHNSON:
Investigators talked

with a waitress at the White
Squirrel that night,

and she said that
he ordered a drink

and then also ordered
a drink for Nitosha.

And then he made kind
of a crude comment

to the waitress about Nitosha.

And the waitress took
exception to that,

but it was something
that caused the waitress

to remember the encounter.

NARRATOR: At 3:11,
Matthew Pettus was

captured outside
on another camera

as he approached the Mercedes.

COLIN HALEY: There's a bus
cam, a metro cam that

captures the SUV and Matthew
Pettus talking to someone

inside that vehicle.

NARRATOR: At 3:29,
all four friends left

with the driver in the SUV.

- How on Earth you can
go from five people

at a bar seemingly being
OK with each other,

then getting
into the same vehicle,

and then not long after,
four of them being dead.

NARRATOR: Police now enlisted
the help of FBI specialists.

They were able
to use cell phone

data to trace the approximate
route the Mercedes took.

ANDREW JOHNSON: Investigators
put a huge effort

into collecting
surveillance video, anything

they could from around
St. Paul to try to track

the path of this vehicle.

SHEILA LAMBIE: We are checking
business establishments,

knocking on doors,
knocking on any address

where they see a camera.

NARRATOR: On the way,
one camera

recorded compelling evidence.

- They found both video
and audio from a residence

where you can hear
the vehicle going by--

[ENGINE ROARING]

--and then you hear
a series of five shots.

[g*nshots]

And then there's a 13-second
delay that's more muffled--

[g*nsh*t]

--but it sounds
like another shot.

They believe that that was
the time that they were k*lled.

- After the group got
into that vehicle,

it was a matter of minutes
before they were m*rder*d.

What happened either
earlier in that night,

or in that two or three minutes
that they were in that vehicle?

ANDREW JOHNSON: After that,
then the driver starts

driving around St. Paul.

And in particular,
we have a video

from a residence about
a minute after the g*nshots.

You can see the vehicle
pull up, come to a stop,

and then there's a light
from inside the vehicle.

Whoever the driver was
was checking to make sure

that the people were dead.

- It feels, at least from
this angle, very calm.

It feels very methodical.

He's checking that he
actually k*lled them.

He isn't jumping out of the
car, running to this house,

saying, I need
to call somebody.

He's not trying to call police.

He's not trying
to call an ambulance.

He's not abandoning the car.

There's no indication,
at least from the outside,

that he's panicking.

If anything, it
seems very calm.

NARRATOR: Cell
phone data and CCTV

continued to track
the Mercedes as it

drove around the empty streets
of St Paul in the early hours

of Sunday morning.

- At some point,
the Mercedes SUV pulls

into a Holiday gas station.

He gets out of the car.

He goes inside
the convenience store

to get a cigar and maybe
something to eat.

It's at this point we
were able to confirm,

beyond any shadow of a doubt,
that it was Antoine Suggs.

NARRATOR: The CCTV
footage also revealed

more shocking evidence.

COLIN HALEY:
As plain as day, you

can see Nitosha's slumped over
a body in the passenger seat.

At that point, we
were 100% positive

that it's him who was
driving the vehicle

and who had committed
these murders.

- He looks pretty
normal, which itself

feels shocking given
the severity of the actions

that he just committed.

In hindsight, it's easy
to see this is weird.

This is a weird
situation, and he

looks way too normal and calm.

But at the time
for him, he's probably

specifically trying to look
normal and calm and succeeding.

- After hearing from
the police officer

about the overwhelming
smell of blood that

was coming from
the SUV at the time

it was found
in the cornfield, what

must it smelled like with
Mr. Suggs in that vehicle

driving around for hours?

JULIA SHAW: Why is
he driving around

with these bodies in the car?

You could overinterpret
that and say,

well, maybe he's a psychopath.

Maybe he was doing
it on purpose.

Maybe there was
some sort of intent

behind driving
around for hours.

But I think it's more
likely to be the case

that he created this situation.

He k*lled these people,
and then he didn't

really know what to do next.

And so he's basically
buying time,

which also suggests he didn't
have a plan for this going in.

[THEME MUSIC]

NARRATOR: At the end
of the video,

Suggs could be seen
gesturing to someone.

Shortly after, cameras
picked up the Mercedes

as it traveled East
towards Wisconsin,

close behind the black Nissan
seen earlier in the footage

at the gas station in Wheeler.

Investigators identified
the driver as Antoine Suggs

father, Darren Osborne.

Within hours, he was arrested.

ANDREW JOHNSON: Darren Osborne
did admit that he was there.

He still denied knowing
anything about any homicides.

He denied knowing that
there were any dead bodies

in the vehicle.

And he said that
he just thought

that this was a drug deal that
he was helping his son with.

But he talked with his son
through the open window

on the passenger side,
literally over Nitosha's body.

It is really not possible
that he could have done that

without seeing
at least Nitosha,

if not the other people
that were in the back.

NARRATOR: Faced with the video
evidence, Antoine's father

admitted his guilt.

- Antoine Suggs eventually
makes his way back to Arizona,

and we still to this
day, don't know

how he got back to Arizona.

He didn't fly.

And then several days later,
after this was on the news,

he turns himself
in to the police in Arizona.

DAMONE PRESLEY: When I heard
he was finally in custody,

I was angry.

I don't know him
personally, Antoine,

but his family
knows our family.

What evil possessed
this person to do this?

JULIA SHAW: I think
turning yourself

in when your driver's
license was found in the car

and there's enough evidence
to put you behind bars,

is probably, at this
point, an act of trying

to get a lesser sentence.

I think the question in his
mind would have been,

how am I not going
to get locked up

for life because four people
dead, that is definitely

multiple life sentences.

I wouldn't read
too much into that

in terms of remorse or guilt.

NARRATOR: A his
trial, Antoine Suggs

claimed that the shootings
were in self-defense.

- What he said was that
he got in the vehicle

with this group of people.

He only knew Nitosha and didn't
even know her very well.

And he said that the people
that he got in with

were acting kind
of strange, and he said

they were talking in code.

He actually testified he had
a very large amount of cash

in the vehicle, many
thousands, and he

was getting nervous about it.

NARRATOR: During the course
of their investigation,

police found one last
piece of evidence

from surveillance
footage at the airport.

- It's just a day or two
before the murders

where we have a Mr. Suggs
in the vehicle in the Mercedes.

And there was a woman that we
believe was Nitosha sitting

in the front passenger seat.

Mr. Suggs gets out.

Actually, before
he gets out, he

makes a motion as if he had
a g*n, and then reaches down

and puts it
underneath his seat.

Then he gets out, goes off
camera for a little while,

and then comes back
in and drives away.

NARRATOR: Police believe
this was the g*n he

used to k*ll all four friends.

Suggs maintained that Nitosha
had taken the g*n from where

she'd seen him hide it.

- He panicked, and he
grabbed the g*n away from her

and then immediately
just started sh**ting

everybody in the vehicle.

And that he said that
he feared for his life,

and he felt that
he had no choice.

That was his story.

- The problem with that
story is that it just didn't

match up with the evidence.

The injuries that were
suffered by the four victims

were of marksman quality.

And the way that
their bodies were positioned

was not an aggressive
type of posture.

But you look at Nitosha
in the front seat,

her purse is on her lap.

And she slumped over.

Jasmine in the back
seat with her hand

up to her face in attempt
to block a b*llet.

Loyace was shot twice, once
in the front of the head

and once on the top
of the head.

His hand's resting
right in his lap.

Matthew Pettus
appeared to have been

trying to get out of that car.

I think he was probably
the last person

to have been k*lled.

And he was trying
desperately to get

away from those g*nshots.

- He said that it was all six
shots in rapid succession,

and we know from the video that
also had the audio of the shots

that that's not
the way it happened.

[g*nshots]

The idea that he
just fired six shots

in rapid fire, that's
just simply not

consistent with the evidence.

[THEME MUSIC]

- For him to say,
my daughter picked up a g*n

and held it to him and--

I was angry.

ANGELA STURM: I
knew that Antoine

chose the self-defense
because there was

no other defense to choose.

It didn't even make
me angry, to be

honest, because I
knew that Antoine

was just grasping at straws.

COLIN HALEY: We know
by his own admission

that Mr. Suggs had
been using cocaine,

had been drinking
alcohol, and had

very little sleep in the days
leading up to this.

And so it's not
at all inconceivable

that whether because of pure
exhaustion through alcohol

intoxication, cocaine
intoxication, just

general mental paranoia, that
Mr. Suggs had it in his head

that these four individuals
were somehow a threat

to him without reason.

And he decided he
had to k*ll them all.

[THEME MUSIC]

JULIA SHAW: Hostile
attribution bias

is where you assume that
people are behaving in a way

that is hostile towards you.

In other words,
they're aggressive.

There's nothing inherent to
cocaine or alcohol that means

you're going to be aggressive.

It's more about how
it mixes with where

you're at as an individual
and your personality.

And if you are high, especially
if you're taking substances

like cocaine, which are
known to create paranoia,

then that hostile attribution
bias is going to be amplified.

And so you might overinterpret
people's behaviors

as an attack.

NARRATOR: The court was shown
every piece of video evidence

collected by law enforcement.

- Seeing her body, when he
drove around with their bodies

for seven hours and she was
on so many videos of them just

sitting there
at the gas stations,

and I think the worst
was, though,

listening to those g*nshots.

- I don't think I cried
during those times

just because it was so surreal.

I sat in trial
thinking, they're

talking about my children
and Loyace and Tasha,

like, these are--
they're sharing stuff

that happened to our children.

It was this happens
to other people,

and we've become
the other people.

It was-- it was really hard.

[THEME MUSIC]

NARRATOR: On May 15,


was convicted on four
counts of second degree

intentional m*rder.

- He received consecutive
sentences on all four counts,

and it turned out to be
a total of 1,232 months,

which we believe is the longest
sentence that anybody has ever

gotten in Ramsey County
for something other

than first-degree m*rder.

DAMONE PRESLEY: He got
exactly what he deserved.

They can give all that back.

I just want my daughter back.

But the reality is that I have
to be satisfied with that.

- His children are going to be
without their father now.

My brother Matthew
and my sister Jasmine

and Loyace and Nitosha,
their children

will be without their parents.

So I am happy that
he's gone, but

I'm sad that it's
going to affect

the lives of so many children.

A

NARRATOR: Antoine Suggs's
father, Darren Osborne,

pled guilty in Minnesota
to assisting his son

in disposing of the bodies.

DAMONE PRESLEY: I'm still
like, how can this happen?

Why did this happen?

What was the reason
for this to happen?

It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make any sense.

Years later, oh, no, I'm
waiting on her to call me,

you know, and just to see her
walk through the door, Dad.

It's still something
that I struggle with.

Unbelievable.

- It's been three years,
and I'm still thinking

this can't have happened.

I still text them, tell
them about my day or--

sorry-- or how
the kids are doing

or how proud they
would be, you know.

[CRYING]

CHRISTI FLUG: They
all had children.

And they were all just getting
their lives together, getting

their careers together.

And it was just some
days, it's still

unbelievable that
I don't believe

that it is really happening.

I just think it's a bad
dream, and there was no reason

for their lives to be taken.

[THEME MUSIC]

NARRATOR: For the loved
ones of Nitosha, Loyace,

Jasmine, and Matthew,
questions will always remain.

- For family members
to not know or

be given a reason why
their loved ones died

leaves this gap,
which can be filled

with all kinds of guesses.

I think this kind
of place where you're

guessing at why
your loved one was k*lled,

and not ever knowing for sure,
leaves you with this space

that is really hard to heal.

And it makes it very
difficult to get

closure from these deaths.

NARRATOR: And in the UK,
a tragic k*lling

left another family
searching for answers.

[THEME MUSIC]

In the Northeast
of England is Gateshead.

- Gateshead is
a large urban area,

has a diverse
population of students

and young people
because of a number

of universities in the
Newcastle and Gateshead area.

[PHONE BEEPING]

NARRATOR: The victim was


RICHARD WRIGHT: Alice was
from a very close family.

She had a number of siblings
brought up in very close family

environment in Leicestershire.

She'd been at University
in the Newcastle area.

She completed her studies.

She was really just
embarking on the next chapter

in her life.

NARRATOR: Police and paramedics
responded to the address,

but it was too
late to save her.

That evening at 7:30, Alice was
pronounced dead at the scene.

- Alice's body
revealed that she

had been the subject
of a sustained attack

with a sharp
implement, a knife.

There were a number
of injuries,

predominantly around
her face and neck.

She had injuries to her
nose, to her scalp.

But the most
significant injury,

the injury that k*lled her was
a massive injury to her neck.

The blade of a knife had
been drawn across her neck

probably five or six times.

MICHELLE THURGOOD:
Detectives attending

this scene ascertained that no
forced entry had taken place.

So that tends to suggest
that either Alice knew

who was responsible
for k*lling her,

as in she let them
into the premises,

or that they were
already in the premises.

[THEME MUSIC]

What detectives will
be looking at is there

any CCTV footage that
gives an idea of,

did Alice come home alone?

NARRATOR: Police quickly
found footage of Alice

as she left work that evening.

She was accompanied by a man.

- Detectives were able to
ascertain that the last person

to see Alice alive was her
work colleague, who in fact had

given her a lift home
from work and sights

they dropped you off
outside her home address.

Dashcam footage shows
her exiting his vehicle,

her going into the address,
and then him driving away.

This is really
important because it

means that he is the last
person to see Alice alive.

NARRATOR: The dash cam
proved Alice arrived

home just after 5:30 PM.

At 6:34, her roommate
found her dead.

But during the emergency
call, her roommate

suggested to police
another line of inquiry.

RICHARD WRIGHT: Alice's
ex-boyfriend friend

was Trimaan Dhillon.

He was known as Harry.

He was the Lance Corporal
in the British Army

based in Scotland.

They were met on social
media and very quickly

developed an intense
relationship without having

physically met each other.

And the intensity
of the online relationship

was then mirrored
by their relationship

when they were together.

NARRATOR: But things
quickly went downhill.

RICHARD WRIGHT:
Harry Dhillon was

seeking to completely dominate
Alice and to control her.

He would tell her that her
friends were bad for her,

and that meant that she
would distance herself

from her friends in order
to spend more time with him

and to please him.

There was a similar
effect with her family,

and this was all about
trying to isolate Alice,

and having isolated
her, control her.

NARRATOR: Alice's
case was examined

by clinical psychologist
doctor Roberta Babb.

- Part of being
in a coercive relationship

is that it's
shrouded in secrecy.

This is because the individual
has experienced

emotional manipulation.

They've been slowly
and strategically

isolated from
their friends, their family,

their sources of support.

Their self-esteem, and their
self-worth have been eroded,

so it can be difficult
to take that first step.

RICHARD WRIGHT:
The relationship

ended essentially
because Harry Dhillon

was serially unfaithful.

And so whilst
on the one hand, he

was telling her that she
couldn't see anybody else

and could only
spend time with him,

he was meeting other
women for casual sex.

And when Alice discovered
some of his behavior,

that led to the breakdown
and ended the relationship.

NARRATOR: Alice told Harry she
didn't want to see him anymore.

- But it became clear that
he was not willing to take

no for an answer.

Essentially, only he would
decide when it was over.

NARRATOR: Alice asked
Harry to leave her alone.

Instead, he began to ramp
up his obsessive behavior.

- What began as not accepting
the relationship was over very

quickly turned into some
quite sinister behavior,

constant messaging,
constant phone calls.

He seemed to know
what she was doing

before she was going to do it.

And so she was
convinced that he had

access to her social media.

He was reading her messages.

ROBERTA BABB: We know that
Harry wanted to know more and

more where Alice was
and what she was doing,

and one way that
he did this was

to hack into her
social media accounts.

This is quite
an extreme action.

It highlights a level
of entitlement

to information that
doesn't belong to him.

There's also a sense of wanting
to assert dominance and

power and control,
and also communicate

to Alice that no
matter what she does,

he will always be there.

He will always be watching,
and she can't hide from him.

NARRATOR: CCTV revealed
that Harry's car

was seen around Alice's
apartment in the days

before her m*rder.

It meant he was driving
down from Scotland in order

to keep her under observation.

- I think the real
turning point for Alice

was when one evening she
was alone in her flat,

and she thought she
heard somebody outside.

She drew back the curtains
of her bedroom,

and Harry Dhillon was
standing outside her flat

in the darkness.

And he backed away from the
window, hands up, as if to say,

he wasn't going to hurt
her and left the area.

NARRATOR: He'd left her
flowers and chocolates.

- That was extremely
distressing for Alice.

And that's what caused
her to call the police.

- The giving of gifts, turning
up uninvited or announced

are key hallmarks
of stalking behavior.

The aim is to invade
the person's privacy,

to destabilize their sense
of security and safety,

and evoke feelings of anxiety,
fear, and intimidation.

NARRATOR: As a result
of her call,

Dhillon was issued with
a police information notice,

warning him to ceasefire
all contact with her.

But just a few days later,
Alice received a package

containing a handwritten
letter from Dhillon,

photographs, and a notebook.

Once again, Alice was
forced to call the police.

RICHARD WRIGHT: Alice
took sensible precautions.

She restricted Harry
Dylan's ability to contact

her on social media.

She took steps
to make sure she was

given a lift to and from work.

She didn't like to be
alone in the flat.

She would make sure that
the door was locked.

She took all sensible steps.

NARRATOR: The police
knew Harry Dhillon

was stationed at a military
base just South of Edinburgh.

They checked his
car registration

against ANPR camera records.

- ANPR is automatic
number plate recognition.

If we have a registration
number that's

of interest to us, it allows
us to do enquiries to ascertain

where that vehicle has been.

NARRATOR: The ANPR
data showed he'd

driven from Scotland
to Gateshead

on the day of the m*rder.

He was captured by CCTV
at a gas station en route.

And so, just hours after
Alice's death, Dhillon

was arrested and brought
back to Gateshead,

where he was interviewed.

- One of the things I
noticed about this video

is that when Harry's been
asked direct, closed questions,

he's in a very formal position.

He answers
the questions quickly,

quite assertively, and with
confidence, and he says no.

But

NARRATOR: Dhillon did
admit to visiting Alice

on the day she was k*lled.

- His body language changed.

It becomes less formal,
which may indicate

a sign of nervousness
or uncertainty

because he's no longer having
to answer direct questions.

He's now having
to construct a narrative.

NARRATOR: He then gave his
account of what he claimed

was their last interaction.

MICHELLE THURGOOD:
In that interview,

he attempts to account
for the fact

that he has some
injuries by saying

that some sort of altercation
did happen between them.

It's clearly a clever way of
being able to give reason and

rationale for why
Alice's DNA might

be found within those
injuries or on his hands.

NARRATOR: Detectives
searching for CCTV uncovered

footage from cameras
in the street close

to Alice's apartment.

Earlier on the day
of her m*rder,

Dhillon's car was outside.

- This not only puts
him at the location,

but also supports
the element of stalking.

It was he sat there watching,
you her movements, her comings

and goings, who she was with.

NARRATOR: Around the same time,
Alice was messaging a friend.

CCTV then caught Dhillon's car
leaving the area 24 minutes

after Alice's final message.

Nine minutes later, Alice's
roommate called 999.

Digital records showed exactly
where Alice's phone went.

It connected with a mast near
Newcastle airport at 6:39 PM.

MICHELLE THURGOOD: The fact
that Alice's phone was moving

after the time that we
believe she was attacked

suggests it's
in the hands of whoever

was responsible for her death.

This is the route that
police know Harry took home.

This is all damning evidence
that points the finger directly

at Trimaan Harry Dhillon.

NARRATOR: Armed with
this information,

police interviewed
Dhillon for a second time.

- What we notice here is
that when the police confront

Harry and let him
know that they

have evidence that links him
to the crime, Harry changes.

His whole demeanor changes.

He's no longer chatty.

He's no longer forthcoming
with personal information.

He essentially
goes to no comment.

And this can be an attempt to
stonewall the conversation and

the investigation
because it feels like an act

of self-preservation.

He doesn't want to say
anything that can

incriminate himself further.

NARRATOR:
In the following days,

Alice's blood was
found on a wristband

that Dhillon had been wearing.

More of Alice's blood
was found on the steering

wheel of his car.

When his case went to trial
at Newcastle Crown Court,

Harry Dhillon
pleaded not guilty.

But after hearing two
weeks of evidence,

the jury came to a verdict.

- On May 26 of April,


was sentenced
to life imprisonment

with a minimum
term of 22 years.

He had been previously
in a number of relationships

in which he had exhibited
coercive and controlling

behavior over his partners,
in which he had subjected them

to domestic violence,
in which he had engaged

in stalking-type
behavior, and he

had actually previously
been the subject

of a restraining order.

ROBERTA BABB: This
is a tragic case.

It feels like there were lots
of opportunities where things

could have been
done differently,

and Alice's death could
have been prevented.

It also highlights
the seriousness

of stalking, the fact that
coercive behaviors can quickly

escalate into stalking
behaviors, which

in turn can escalate
into violent behaviors,

which culminate in death.

RICHARD WRIGHT: The death
of Alice Ruggles

was clearly a tragedy.

Alice was a young
woman, full of potential

with her whole life
in front of her.

And it was a death
that devastated

all of her friends
and family, and continues

to do so and always will.

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