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07x07 - Gold Pontiac

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "See No Evil". Aired: February 17, 2015.*
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07x07 - Gold Pontiac

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[dramatic music playing]

[woman speaking]

[police siren wailing]

[narrator] A cold-blooded execution.

[Det. Zenoni] That was a very angry crime.

[Chrystle] I just dropped the phone.

[narrator] Has detective seeking justice?

[Det. Zenoni] I knew early on this was gonna

be a marathon, not a sprint.

[narrator] Can surveillance video...

reveal the truth?

[Det. Sgt. Walker] I basically watched

their last hours of life.

[narrator] And find the k*ller?

[Det. Zenoni] He's dangerous. He just k*lled two women.

[dramatic music playing]

[gentle music playing]

[narrator] It's two days before Thanksgiving

and roommates Amanda Douglas

and Jennifer Sudar Sanders

are enjoying an evening out.

Oh, um, two vodka tonics, please?

[Chrystle] Amanda and Jennifer liked going

to the casino hanging out,

having drinks,

and going out having a good time.

They met at a job

and they just kinda hit it off.

Jennifer let Amanda come live with her

and they were just good friends ever since.

Amanda had a very contagious personality,

always smiling.

[Carol] Jennifer was always a happy person.

She had a big sense of humor

and liked to laugh and have a good time.

Generally, anybody that met her

wanted to be around her.

She was the life of the party.

Tonight's gonna be a good night.

I'm feeling lucky.

Slots?

-Uh, yeah. -[laughs]

[Carol] Jennifer, she was a very generous person.

Letting people stay

that needed a place to stay.

Come on.

Let's see what you're made of.

[Carol] It was Jennifer's middle name,

if you need help, she stop what she's doing.

[ambient music playing]

[phone ringing]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[man speaking]

[woman speaking]

[police siren wailing]

[narrator] Detectives raced to the scene.

[Det. Zenoni] When I pulled up,

I learned one victim was declared dead

at the scene and the second victim in the car

was rushed to the hospital.

Anybody ID the victim?

We identified the girls quickly

because one of the girls lived

in the apartment complex.

[narrator] The deceased female is 26-year-old

Amanda Douglas.

[Det. Zenoni] She'd been shot multiple times.

I saw a b*llet wound

to the upper back shoulder area

with an exit wound and then the coup de grace headshot,

you could see that was just...

That was not a survival wound.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We got one that's dead

in the parking lot, that's bad.

We got one in route to a hospital

that doesn't look good.

[narrator] Detective Zenoni talks to witnesses.

[Det. Zenoni] They had numerous witnesses

from the apartment complex's office.

All the witnesses were just terrified.

I mean, it was pretty traumatic for them.

The male witness reported hearing g*nshots

and then seeing a male standing over a woman

sh**ting her as she laid on the ground.

The female witness reported hearing g*nshots

and seeing a tall, lanky, Black male

in his 20s run to a Pontiac,

get in and pull out.

She got a good description of his face

and when the car left,

she got the tag number.

That was a gold Pontiac Grand Prix four-door.

I'll put a bulletin out.

[Det. Zenoni] The car description and tag number

was broadcast over the police radio.

That was a key piece of evidence

that we needed to find out quickly

who was driving and where it went.

[Det. Zenoni] In any m*rder case,

you keep an open mind.

That was a very angry crime.

Obviously, whoever shot these two girls

ex*cuted them both in broad daylight.

My experience, 99% of the homicides,

the victim knows the suspect.

To me, the time of day

the fact that nothing was taken,

I believe at that point

that the sh**ter must have known the two girls.

We got a word about the second victim.

[narrator] The other casualty of the sh**ting

is Amanda's roommate,



[Det. Zenoni] The hospital called and said

she had passed away.

Now we got another victim,

there's two dead.

[dramatic music playing]

[narrator] Amanda's sister, Chrystle is at work

and looking forward to the holiday weekend.

[Chrystle] Amanda, she was supposed to go

shopping for Thanksgiving.

It was actually gonna be her first Thanksgiving

with the family in a couple years.

I tried to call her and she never answered.

I walked into my office and looked down at my phone

and seen that I have a phone call coming in.

And I answered it and they were just yelling,

"Please tell me that wasn't your sister."

And I had to ask about three times,

"What are you talking about?"

And finally, they were like,

"Your sister was on the news."

And I just dropped the phone

and I remember, um,

not being able to see

because I was crying.

The first thing I thought of is,

"Oh, my God. How am I gonna tell her daughter?"

[Destiny] I was standing in front

of my grandma's chair that she sat on

whenever she was talking on the phone.

And she started crying

and then looked at me

and she told me that my mom got shot

and she got k*lled.

And I broke down in tears, like, in front of her.

By then,

I went up to my room and just sat there

for, like, the rest of the day.

[Carol] I got a phone call at work

from Jennifer's best friend, Kelly.

She had asked if I had heard about Jennifer

and I said no

and she starts screaming, "She's dead.

She's dead."

And I think I said, "No, Kelly.

What are you saying?"

So then I hanged up the phone.

I didn't know what to do but scream.

I was just in shock and crying,

and screaming,

and it can't be right, that can't be,

how could that happened, who would want to?

[suspenseful music playing]

[narrator] Back at the crime scene,

news comes in about the sh**ter's car.

The Pontiac Grand Prix had been stolen

the day before the m*rder.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We didn't think

they were gonna be in it very long,

so we needed to find that quickly.

We pulled all the stops to try to get it.

[radio chatter]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] One of the things that we do

at any crime scene

is automatically look for cameras

and an apartment complex should have some

sort of surveillance cameras.

We had somebody go and check

and sure enough they did have video.

We have to get that downloaded

and get it reviewed

and see what we can see from that.

[narrator] While police wait for the footage,

they traced Amanda

and Jennifer's final movements.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Within 40 feet of their front door,

they end up dead.

If our suspect came from the apartment,

there's just gonna be plethora of evidence in there

potentially.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] There was no sign of a forced entry.

No sign of a struggle.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] It was relatively

a small apartment, one bedroom.

It smelled of smoke,

cigarette smoke.

And inside that we can confirm

there were just ashtrays full of cigarette butts.

Relatively clean apartment,

but the ashtrays didn't get emptied very often

or they smoked a lot.

Our first inclination was that

the k*ller knew

our victims were inside the apartment.

And some of those cigarette butts

that were in those ashtrays

could possibly be his.

Okay. Let these guys finish up.

Let's get out of here, okay?

We ceased all the things we thought were important.

Let's move on.

[dramatic music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] We needed to find out

where the girls have been,

uh, who they've been with,

and what times they were there.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] People close to Jennifer

and Amanda told us that

they were at the Hard Rock the night before.

Amanda and Jennifer frequent to that casino

quite a bit.

Hey, I'm Detective Walker.

I'm wondering if you recognize

any of these women?

The staff told us

Jennifer and Amanda, they walked around

like any other customer at the casino.

They mingled, they played some slot machines.

The casinos have great video.

You can follow them

from the time they get on property,

to parking the car,

to walking in the doors.

You're always being watched.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] It's important to establish a timeline

for the victims where they've been

and maybe if they actually ran

into the person who shot them,

if there were some kind of dispute

that could have led to those murders.

[narrator] Detectives cue up the footage

from 7:00 PM,

when Amanda and Jennifer visited the casino.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Once you find out

they were at the casino, we have to watch

video, after video, after video.

They can be hours and hours.

It's time consuming

because you're stopping, you're pausing,

you're going back and forth.

I think that's Jennifer.

[tense music playing]

That's definitely her.

You could see that Jennifer was wearing

a dark top and jeans with short hair.

We were able to look at her purse

and get her identified that one.

So we know who we're looking at.

Have we got it on another camera?

[keyboard clicks]

[tense music playing]

Stop and zoom in.

So where's Amanda?

Can you switch angles for me?

[keyboard clicks]

[tense music playing]

Stop.

Zoom in.

[keyboard clicks]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We identified Amanda

in the footage

as wearing a white sweater.

She had her hair on top of her head

and was wearing dark pants.

Was she talking to Jennifer?

Once we latched on to where they were,

we were able to follow them through the casino.

Amanda did a lot of walking and talking,

and Jennifer was more of the gambler.

She would play a few slot machines here and there,

but each would have a drink or two.

[tense music playing]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] They interacted

with mostly males.

They would sit at the slot machine,

and talk to them,

and they would go to the buffet.

There was one in particular that we followed around a lot

that was wearing a yellow sweatshirt

and some camo pants.

Okay. Let's see what else we got.

[keyboard clicks]

[tense music playing]

That's the same guy.

[tense music playing]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] This particular man

seemed to hang with Amanda longer.

You got the buffet camera?

[suspenseful music playing]

You think it happened after the meal?

[suspenseful music playing]

No sign of any dispute.

What have we got for when he leaves?

[suspenseful music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] The surveillance footage showed

that the girls were not involved

in any kind of argument and it didn't look like

they'd left with anybody from the casino.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] I basically watched

their last hours of life where they just had

a good time in the casino.

There's disappointment when you think

you're gonna find something and you don't.

But we have to say there's no suspect

in that video and we gotta move on.

[dramatic music playing]

[narrator] With the investigation stalling,

a tip-off about Jennifer leads investigators

in a new direction.

[Det. Zenoni] We learned that Jennifer

has some money issues, was behind on her rent.

Allegedly, Jennifer was involved

in a money laundering scheme.

She allegedly lost some of that money

when she went to the casino, came up short.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We have to make sure Jennifer

wasn't the target because we've seen people die

for hundreds of dollars.

She lost a significant amount,

it was somewhere around $2,500.

[Det. Zenoni] In any homicide investigation,

you've gotta track down every lead.

Whoever shot the girls, there was something going on

that really upset him.

I made phone calls, I did some other interviews

regarding the money.

We played that out to the end

and determined that it was not a problem,

that it did not lead to the murders.

Okay.

There was nothing there to run on.

Thank you.

[narrator] Investigators turned their attentions

to Amanda.

[Det. Zenoni] Amanda was actually staying

at Jennifer's apartment because of Amanda's issues

with her husband, Larry Douglas.

[Chrystle] When I first met Larry Douglas,

he was actually really nice, sweet,

used to buy Amanda any and everything.

But the further they got along

in the relationship, he was mean,

he was really mean.

Larry was not a very good part of her life.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Larry Douglas was

a well-known drug dealer.

Everybody knew Larry Douglas as being that guy

that is dangerous.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Atty. Kunzweiler] Amanda Douglas

and Larry Douglas were having difficult times.

The Monday before the homicide,

they were in court on a very contentious

child custody hearing.

[Chrystle] Amanda had left Larry.

She wanted her child out of harm's way.

Amanda had plans on the baby coming,

living with her.

[Det. Zenoni] We brought up Larry's police photograph

and he just didn't fit the description

of a skinny younger Black male.

But in any m*rder case,

when you have a domestic situation going on,

the husband's gonna be the focus point.

We needed him to come down and give a statement.

[Det. Zenoni] I didn't have any way to contact him.

I didn't have a phone number.

I wasn't able to get a hold of Larry Douglas.

At that point, I brought one of Larry's ex-wives in

to see if she had domestic issues with Larry.

I've asked her if this could've been the result

of Larry's anger and she said no.

I asked what kind of car he was driving

and she said Larry was driving

her silver Ford SUV

for about past week or two.

She was driving Larry's truck

and Larry was driving her SUV.

She gets out of the office, goes, rings Larry

and says this, this, this, this.

[cell phone rings]

Detective Zenoni speaking.

How can I help?

I think the best thing that happened

out of that interview is Larry called me

because he was freaking out.

I just asked what he knew and he just kinda said,

"I don't know nothing. I'm in Oklahoma city."

At that point during the phone conversation,

I asked Larry to come for an interview.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] The quicker we could get him in

for a statement, it would be best for us.

He said he would be in with his attorney.

Oh, hey. Will you do me a favor?

I need to subpoena Larry Douglas'

cell phone records. I gotta check an alibi.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] It gives us a location of Larry

when he's making phone calls.

And that was important for us to verify

that he wasn't in the city at the time of the murders.

[suspenseful music playing]

[narrator] The surveillance footage

from Jennifer's apartment building

is now ready for analysis.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] The video was absolutely

one of the biggest pieces of evidence

that we could collect at that scene.

We've got video of the crime scene.

And it's right by the entrance.

Everything is lining up

to where we're going to find out

who was in that car.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We'll start a little bit

before the 911 call coming in.

We had a witness that said we were looking

at a gold Pontiac Grand Prix.

We wanna see that car.

[suspenseful music playing]

Can you zoom in?

[Det. Sgt. Walker] What I'm seeing there

is our suspect leaving the complex

in a gold Grand Prix.

We know we've got the right car.

Play it again from the top.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] As the Pontiac left,

you couldn't see the driver,

the windows were blacked out.

Who's that?

Zoom in.

That's our witness.

What about when the car arrives?

[Det. Sgt. Walker] So, we keep going back,

and back, and back

until we see a gold Grand Prix

pull into the crime scene.

[dramatic music playing]

Freeze it there.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] That car shows up

in the complex at 7:55.

The video is kinda grainy.

We're not gonna see the suspect

or how many people were in the car.

Have we gotten any other angles?

[dramatic music playing]

Freeze.

And zoom.

Okay. Do we see it again?

The car backs in.

You could see just the back end of it.

You could see it barely back into a parking spot

right by the foyer of Jennifer's apartment.

I'm pretty sure he knew what Jennifer drove

and where she lives

because he wasn't driving around the complex looking.

He went right to that spot, parked there.

Zoom in the edge.

Keep playing.

[Det. Zenoni] Unfortunately,

from the way the camera was angled,

you can never see anybody

getting in or out of the car.

The Pontiac arrived at the apartment complex

at 7:55 in the morning

and left after the sh**ting

at about 9:21 that morning.

It was 86 minutes

from the time the car backed into the parking spot

until it was seen leaving the apartment complex.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] It didn't actually show the m*rder,

but it showed enough to get us where

we needed to jumpstart the investigation.

[Det. Zenoni] Now we have a timeline.

We know what time the guy showed up,

when he left, and what went on before and after.

The video in the apartment complex like that

is invaluable.

[narrator] The image of the Pontiac

is distributed throughout the department.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We put that out immediately

to our officers on the street to a tip sheet.

[Det. Zenoni] My initial thought was

it's burned in a field somewhere or...

driven into a creek.

The longer it went on before we found it,

I felt less and less likely,

we would've been able to produce

any evidence from it.

[narrator] While they wait for an update,

Amanda's husband Larry Douglas appears

for an interview with his attorney.

My first question I asked him was answered by his lawyer.

I said, "You don't even wanna help catch

the m*rder of your wife?"

And his lawyer said

Larry has no statements to make at this time.

It was over.

He was just very unemotional.

Everybody agrees differently, but that was just strange.

[narrator] While Larry is at the station,

detectives take his DNA.

[Det. Zenoni] I had his fingerprints taken

and I took a saliva buccal swabs

and we said adios.

[narrator] When Larry's cell phone data comes in,

police are able to check his movements.

[Det. Zenoni] His phone records placed him

a hundred miles away in Oklahoma City

the morning of the m*rder.

He was a hundred miles away at the time.

[Det. Zenoni] But that didn't rule him out

as a person of interest.

I knew early on

this was gonna be a marathon, not a sprint.

[dramatic music playing]

[narrator] Jennifer and Amanda's families

clean out the apartment

the two friends lived in together.

[Chrystle] Jennifer's brother met me at the apartment

to get all of Amanda's things.

They smelled like Jennifer's apartment for the longest.

Everything smelled like cashmere.

There was baby stuff, clothes.

I still have her robe.

[Carol] We spent pretty much all day in her apartment

and... [sighs]

it was just very hard to be over there.

Jennifer was my best friend.

I could talk to her about anything and everything.

[ominous music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] Two homicide detectives

were investigating another case

and they found the Pontiac parked

backed in within three miles of the homicide scene.

We started surveilling the Pontiac

in hopes that the person who left it there,

who could've been the sh**ter,

would return to the vehicle.

We actually conducted surveillance on it for hours

and nobody came to or from it.

Sergeant Walker eventually decided to sneak up on it.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] When we walked up,

we could see that somebody tried to burn it,

the inside, but they were not successful.

[Det. Zenoni] That was at that point

a key to the investigation.

You need to get in that vehicle and process it,

try to get fingerprints, DNA,

any items that were in it,

get them processed and for the investigation.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We found a coffee cup,

candy wrappers,

cigarettes,

cigarette butts.

[camera shutter clicks]

[Det. Zenoni] There was a possibility

the sh**ter's DNA could be on them.

So it was very exciting to see those cigarettes.

-[camera shutter clicks] -[narrator] While they wait

for the DNA results,

detectives look into the other items

found in the vehicle.

-[camera shutter clicks] -[Det. Zenoni] The cigarettes,

when we started from coffee cup

that didn't have any markings,

but it was something we could follow up on.

Detectives contacted the manufacturer.

They talked to that person and said that

that Styrofoam cup was sold

in only three locations in Tulsa.

[narrator] The detectives track the cup down

to a Fiesta Mart,

just two miles away from the crime scene.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Convenience stores

traditionally have some sort of

video surveillance system.

Hopefully, we were gonna see that gold Pontiac drive in,

and somebody get out of it,

and then get the face of the k*ller.

[tense music playing]

We started looking the video

the morning of the m*rder from the Fiesta Mart.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] We got that car

and the m*rder happening at a certain time.

So you start at 7:30 and you go back.

It's just that process of elimination.

The Grand Prix was linked to the m*rder,

but we don't see it.

[dramatic music playing]

[Det. Zenoni] Hang on.

Do you think you could zoom in on that silver car?

Shortly before 6:00 AM the morning of the m*rder,

you can initially see an SUV.

It pulls into the gas pump.

Two Black males walk into the Fiesta Mart.

Will you pick them up inside?

Pause right there.

That's Larry, no?

[Det. Sgt. Walker] You saw Larry

and you saw another individual

get out and go into the Fiesta Mart.

Can you go back to the multi-screen?

Hold the man in the dark hoodie.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] He was just a figure.

We weren't able to identify him.

But he was a getting a cup of coffee.

And that's exactly what we wanted to see.

[Det. Zenoni] We established Larry

was within two miles of the homicide

with an individual that fit the description

of the person who was involved in the sh**ting.

That was chilling.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Well, we've already confirmed

that that coffee cup that we found

in the stolen Grand Prix is the same type.

And now we've got our suspect getting that cup of coffee

from the Fiesta Mart and Larry paid for it.

It's that moment in time where you just say,

"Oh, my gosh.

This is a good deal."

Can you go to the exterior?

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Obviously, Larry is in Oklahoma City

at the time of the m*rder.

His phone puts himself in the Oklahoma City.

We know it takes about an hour and a half

to get to Oklahoma City from here.

So, that potentially gives him a time

to drop off our k*ller

and then move to Oklahoma City

to create his alibi.

[narrator] Detectives check Amanda's phone records

for any unusual communications

leading up to the m*rder.

[Det. Zenoni] She had communicated multiple times

to and from an individual

we identified as being her domestic lawyer

that was representing her against Larry.

Amanda's Lawyer was interviewed that day

by another detective

and provided some critical information.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] There was recent court filings

with Amanda and Larry.

Amanda alleged that Larry choked her

'til she passed out and she had to flee on foot.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] We believe it all kinda connected up

to this issue over their baby

and these court proceedings

that they were going through.

[narrator] But before any allegations about Larry

can be assessed by a judge,

Amanda is m*rder*d.

[Det. Zenoni] Amanda's lawyer found out

that there was a man named Dale Childress

who was living with Larry and was acting as his gofer

and basically do whatever Larry ask him to do

or told him to do.

[narrator] Police discovered that Amanda suspected Dale

had started following her.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] It was reported that Dale Childress

was kind of a lookout

to keep eyes on Amanda Douglas.

[Chrystle] She told me that Larry knew

what apartment complex she stayed in,

but didn't know which exact apartment.

Amanda was scared that he was gonna come find her.

[narrator] The claims about Larry's behavior,

although unproven, provides detectives

with a new lead.

We did research on Dale Childress

and he did not fit the description at all

of the sh**ter. He was older, um, shorter.

Once we had identified Dale Childress

was being an associate of Larry,

another detective did research

with Dale's EBT card

and found that there was number of transactions

conducted at the quick trip

which was a one block away from the site of the m*rder

the day before the m*rder.

We thought they were cased in the apartment complex.

[narrator] Detectives gather the footage from the time

Childress makes each of his transactions

in the store.

[tense music playing]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Is that Dale

in the checkered top?

Can you switch angles?

Pause.

That's Dale as clear as day.

Can you play that again?

[narrator] The detectives watched back

through the footage

to see if Dale arrived alone.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] You could see Larry in a gray

sweatshirt type hoodie.

When we looked at the video from Fiesta Mart,

you see him in the same clothes.

[narrator] Dale's card transaction

show he returned to the store a few hours later.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Whoa. Play that again.

Stop and zoom in.

Incredible.

[Det. Zenoni] The person with Dale

was wearing clothes similar to

what the witness has described

the sh**ter was wearing the day of the m*rder.

Not only to find Dale Childress

was a block away

the night before the m*rder,

so was Larry and the person

who fit the description of the sh**ter.

It was exciting at that point,

you are able to have actually identified people.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] You get that feeling

that we're on the right track.

[narrator] They switched to the camera

above the checkout.

Freeze there.

Can you zoom in on the yellow packet?

[Det. Zenoni] The watermelon Candy

that Dale Childress purchased at the quick trip

the night before the m*rder was consistent

with the watermelon patch candy

that we found in the Pontiac.

So what happens when they leave,

is there an exterior?

[Det. Zenoni] We saw what vehicles

that were showing up in.

It was the Ford Escape that was similar

to Larry's ex-wife's Ford Escape

that he said he had borrowed.

I think at that point we were pretty convinced.

I mean, we identified everybody that was there

the night before the m*rder except the sh**ter.

It was imperative that we quickly identify

who that person was.

[tense music playing]

[narrator] Detectives pour over Larry and Dales

cell phone records.

[Det. Zenoni] Two minutes after the 911 call,

Dale was getting or receiving a phone call

from a number we didn't recognize.

Another detective took that number,

ran it through Facebook.

We found out it belonged to Quantell Alverson

and he fit the description to a tea of the sh**ter.

I ran a records check

and he had just gotten out of prison

as an armed robbery charge

within the last year before the m*rder.

He's dangerous. He's just k*lled two women.

At that point, I didn't have enough for a warrant.

I need to get him positively identified as the sh**ter.

I put a photo lined up together

and took her to a female witness

at the apartment complex.

She identified Quantell

as being the person she saw sh**t

Amanda and Jennifer that morning.

Here we go.

I have a direction.

I know who it is.

Let's get an arrest warrant out.

[narrator] Quantell Alverson is arrested without incident

and taken in for questioning.

[Det. Sgt. Walker] Now it's just time to see

if he'll talk to us.

[dramatic music playing]

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Quantell speaking]

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

Quantell denied doing anything.

I kinda laid out what we had.

[Det. Sgt. Walker speaking]

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Det. Zenoni] He denied during the interview,

denied ever knowing Larry or Dale.

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

Seen that girl at the casino.

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Atty. Kunzweiler] You got an eye witness,

you got video surveillance,

you got cell phones and cell towers

that are putting his phone in close proximity

where the m*rder took place.

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Det. Zenoni] I ran him with pictures of Amanda

at the scene laying on the ground

and just put them down

in front of him and walked out.

It was a pretty dramatic reaction on his part.

It's almost like he was gonna cry.

I thought he was gonna give it up

once he saw that picture.

I really thought he was gonna break down but he never did.

It's like he gathered himself and nope,

pushed the picture away.

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Atty. Kunzweiler] Mr. Alverson from the get-go

was just in complete denial mode

and what was a bit of his undoing

was not even acknowledging who Larry Douglas was.

[Det. Zenoni speaking]

[Det. Zenoni] That's fine.

I have plenty of evidence at that point.

[narrator] Alverson is charged with two counts

of first degree m*rder

and put in jail while awaiting trial.

But detectives don't believe

he came up with the plan alone.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] Quantell Alverson had absolutely

no connection to Amanda Douglas

or Jennifer Sudar.

[Det. Zenoni] I think Larry got Quantell

to take care of Amanda and Jennifer.

[narrator] Larry Douglas is seen on video

with Alverson the morning of the m*rder.

And police believe Larry's turbulent relationship

with Amanda gives him a potential motive.

But they still need evidence to prove he was involved.

[cell phone rings]

[Det. Zenoni] At that time,

Dale was a very important witness.

Detective Walker speaking.

So, detectives attempted to make contact numerous time,

but we could never get him away from Larry.

Dale was found on a rural two-lane road

shot three times in the head, m*rder*d.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] And so, we're never gonna find out

from Mr. Childress what he's involvement was on this case,

other than what we saw on video.

[narrator] The case against Larry Douglas stalls.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] When you're trying

to figure out who would have the motive,

one has to take into account Larry Douglas.

But at the end of the day,

I need hard tangible proof

to be able to connect

any other party to this homicide.

[narrator] But there are others also

in pursuit of Larry Douglas.

The FBI become involved

in a separate federal case against him.

He was arrested at a federal continuum

in criminal enterprise indictment,

which he pleaded guilty to

and is now serving prison time.

He received a sentence of 21 years.

[narrator] And there's a development

with the case against Quantell Alverson.

The DNA recovered from the cigarettes

found in the coffee cup in the Pontiac

belonged to Quantell Alverson.

That was the nail in the coffin for Quantell.

There's no better evidence than physical evidence

and especially DNA can't deny it.

[narrator] Alverson is convicted of two counts

of first degree m*rder

and given two life sentences without parole.

Alverson never alleges any involvement

on Larry Douglas's part.

Due to lack of evidence,

Larry Douglas faces no charge

in relation to the murders.

[Det. Zenoni] The videos from the quick trip

the night before and then the Fiesta Mart,

you can't express how great that was.

I mean, it was pivotal.

[Atty. Kunzweiler] Quantell Alverson buying a cup

that contains cigarette butts with his DNA on it,

that totally made this case.

[dramatic music playing]

[narrator] Despite the convictions,

two families have had their lives ripped apart.

[Chrystle] After Amanda and Jennifer had passed,

we just got together

and wrote down messages on balloons

and went to where it had happened

at the apartment complex that they stayed in

and did a little balloon release.

[Destiny] I don't have a mom right there by my side.

The things that I wish my mom would be there for us,

me getting married or graduating

and things like that.

[Carol] I would say that I'm not as joyful.

It's not as easy to have fun.

This big chunk of me is just gone,

big piece.

[Chrystle] I just miss Amanda

really getting on my nerves.

'Cause now I look back and I just laugh

because that was all we did

was get on each other's nerves.

I mean, there's not even, like,

words for what had happened with Jennifer and Amanda.

They were really good people.