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01x04 - Traps and Conspiracies

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Vendetta: Truth, Lies and The Mafia". Aired: September 24, 2021.*

01x04 - Traps and Conspiracies

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- [seagulls squawking]

- [somber music playing]

MAY 2018

[doorbell ringing]

[camera clicking]

[man] Yes?

- If you're not ready I'll k*ll you.

- Yes, yes, we're coming.

- [buzzer buzzing]

- [intercom hanging up]

PINO MANIACI'S LEGAL TEAM IS REVIEWING

THE CARABINIERI RECORDINGS

OF SOME MEETINGS

BETWEEN MAYOR DE LUCA

AND HIS PRESS OFFICER PANETTINO

- Pino, have a look at this, look.

- [Pino] Yes.

Note from the prosecutor,

"On September 13th, 2014, at ten o'clock,

Gioacchino De Luca and Giuseppe Panettino

come into the office."

Look at what comes next.

"Gioacchino De Luca

moves some papers on his desk."

"He removes a page

from his spiral notebook."

This is the whole sequence.

"After removing the page

from the notebook,

he tears a piece off

and then puts another sheet on the desk."

"De Luca turns to Panettino,

he picks up a pen

and starts writing on a sheet of paper

while Panettino watches

from the other side of the desk."

"Panettino takes the pen from De Luca

and writes on the sheet,

and writes something in reply."

"He points at the writing on the sheet.

He speaks into his ear again."

Fine, let's see.

"Panettino points to

the sheet of paper again."

It's basically a conversation.

The report actually says it,

it says they were having

a conversation via the sheet of paper.

They were alone in that f*cking room!

So they knew they were being recorded.

- Yeah.

- [music builds up, fades]

When he gets the money,

De Luca speaks loudly,

looking at the cameras.

What a coincidence.

[Ingroia] It's like we're in a scene

in a movie. It's all very theatrical,

as if the mayor knew

the camera was there,

and he had to build the key evidence.

The aim of this video

was to discredit Pino Maniaci.

A NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY SERIES

[rhythmical music playing]

[music fading out]

JUSTICE

MAY 2018

MANIACI TRIAL

EXTORTION CHARGE

WITNESS: PANETTINO

[men speaking indistinctly]

[suspenseful music playing]

Panettino!

Next witness, Panettino.

Please have a seat, Mr. Panettino.

You need to take the oath.

[Panettino] "I swear to tell

the whole truth and not to hide anything

that I am aware of."

Right, go ahead, Madam.

[Luise] Great.

So, Mr. Panettino, what was your role

within Borgetto Council?

PUBLIC PROSECUTOR

I was press officer.

Let's say I took care

of relations with the press.

What type of relationship did you have

in relation to publishing news

related to Mayor Gioacchino De Luca?

Maniaci had a new problem every day.

He wanted money to avoid potential

broadcasting potential reports,

but he'd do the reports anyway,

and then he'd come back again.

He contacted me in every way possible.

He wouldn't leave me alone.

[phone ringing]

TELEPHONE RECORDING

BETWEEN PANETTINO

AND THE THEN MAYOR DE LUCA

[Panettino] He called me 12,000 times.

[De Luca] Ah, it's fine.

Tell him we'll have it sorted tonight.

[Panettino] Do it now, this guy is crazy.

[De Luca] Did he do a report today?

[Panettino] What? He did one.

[De Luca] Make him wait. We'll give it

to him tomorrow. Don't worry. Ok ay?

- [Panettino] Okay. Great. Bye.

- [De Luca] Okay, bye.

I said to the mayor,

"You can't carry on with this

this this continuous blackmail."

"Call the Carabinieri."

"Call someone, but you have to. You"

It was impossible.

He couldn't sleep at night.

The Mafia k*ll with g*ns,

and he kills with the television.

[dramatic music exploding, fading]

Listen, Mr. Panettino

PINO MANIACI'S LAWYER

how long have you known De Luca,

the former Mayor Gioacchino De Luca?

I'm an only child.

And

Okay.

[Panettino] You asked

about our relationship.

Start from your childhood.

- Then this will go on until tomorrow.

- I have to say he's my friend.

I don't just have to say

what you want to know.

You can't make spontaneous statements.

You have to answer the questions.

- You're not on trial yet. Go ahead.

- Is it normal to say something like that?

[Ingroia] You haven't been charged

in this trial, but let's see.

If you give false statements,

you'll be accused of perjury.

Your Honor, "But you haven't been

charged yet," it's inappropriate.

[Ingroia] He hasn't been accused yet,

in the sense that up until now,

he hasn't been accused.

Is it appropriate to say that

if a witness doesn't respond properly?

- That he hasn't been charged yet?

- Prosecutor, don't include it.

[Luise] Hey, I think not.

Let's move on. No interruptions.

I never interrupted. Let's move on.

You and the

former Mayor De Luca,

where were the places

where you'd generally meet and talk?

I'd meet Mayor De Luca at the Town Hall,

at my house, at his house, everywhere.

- We didn't have problems.

- [Ingroia] Where in the Town Hall?

- In the mayor's office?

- Yes, yes, yes.

Would you usually speak to each other,

let's say, normally,

at a normal volume or whispering?

[suspenseful music playing]

Sir, the only words

I whispered to the mayor,

were because he came in.

He was with people in there.

[Ingroia] So if there wasn't anyone there,

you wouldn't have done it.

Absolutely not. Why would I?

[Ingroia] Were there any circumstances

where instead of talking to one another,

each on different sides of the desk,

without opening your mouths,

you wrote on a piece of paper

and passed it between you,

one of you would write, then pass the pen?

[suspenseful music playing]

Do you remember doing that?

[Panettino] Your Honor,

I don't usually ever write.

- What?

- I never write like that.

Because I have terrible handwriting.

Did you ever know or suspect

that the room was bugged

or had hidden cameras?

Absolutely not.

No, no.

Okay. No more questions, Your Honor.

Fine. We've finished.

Thanks.

It went well.

[indistinct chatter]

The further we go, the more

the prosecution's castle crumbles.

It's becoming clear

that the prosecution's case

is based on thin air.

[Pino, laughing] "Thin air,"

that's beautiful.

Music!

["Give it to me"

by Vanacore Music playing]

You're mine, mine ♪

Do it to me right now ♪

Put your body on me

Put that body, body ♪

[Ingroia] There are many people

who want to shut Pino Maniaci up,

Mafia and non-Mafia.

Because Pino Maniaci has bravely exposed

what is wrong with the State.

I know what happens

when you go against the system

because it also happened to me.

There was also a vendetta against me

when, as well as dealing with the Mafia,

I started looking into State corruption.

The investigation that I started,

and the trial about negotiations

between the State and the Mafia.

My investigation discovered and showed

that while the Mafia

was k*lling statesmen,

like Falcone, Borsellino

and other innocent citizens,

there were other statesmen

who were making deals with the Mafia.

[dramatic music playing]

[car alarm blaring]

There are only a few judges

who have fought

the State's complicity with the Mafia.

[applauding]

I was never forgiven for this.

The Mafia uses violence

and intimidation as their primary tool.

Statespeople have different,

more subtle tools,

like denigration and defamation.

Sometimes the State sullies people

before taking them to trial.

MARCH 2017

Antonio Ingroia,

former Palermo prosecutor,

has been accused of embezzlement.

According to the prosecution,

between 2014 and 2016,

the former anti-Mafia prosecutor,

allegedly, received

expense reimbursements

for business trips worth €30,000.

There's also an allegation against him

about a performance bonus of €117,000.

"I'm very upset."

"I've always respected the law."

In 2013,

shortly after I left the judiciary

I took a job

as the commissioner of a company.

The company was at risk of bankruptcy.

I intervened.

I took up my responsibilities,

I managed to save the company.

And all of a sudden,

the prosecution office

decided to accuse me instead.

This embezzlement, where it basically says

that I paid myself a bonus,

and that I stole from the the

As if I were a common thief,

as if I stole from the company accounts,

which isn't true.

That bonus was rightfully mine.

[Saguto] Ingroia

is one of the strangest people

in the judiciary.

He should be thinking about

his own legal problems.

It disgusts me

that Ingroia is supporting Maniaci.

These people are being investigated

for very serious crimes.

I know a few things about Maniaci

that are very significant.

Because they are things

that I found in documents

from the trials of various mafiosos

that I compiled

when I was doing preventive measures.

SILVANA SAGUTO STARTS HER DEFENSE STRATEGY

BY ATTACKING PINO MANIACI'S REPUTATION

AS AN ANTI-MAFIA JOURNALIS

I know about relationships

that he had with some Mafia members,

that don't match up

with his reputation as an anti-Mafia hero.

They can choose not to believe them.

They can say they aren't true,

but there are documents.

I don't learn things

because someone told me,

I learn because I have found

inexplicable payments

to Telejato from people

I have investigated.

Pino Maniaci is the person

who gives a voice

to those who want

to abolish preventive measures.

The first person that Maniaci

started defending was Impastato.

JANUARY 2013

We are talking about the

the quarry seized

from the Impastato family

which is waiting to be confiscated

or to be released from seizure.

[Saguto] Andrea Impastato

is a Mafia member.

€150 million were seized from him,

and he was definitively convicted

for Mafia association.

And Maniaci gave him

all the space he wanted.

We then, by chance, found out

that Impastato's children

gave Maniaci a car.

And afterwards, he continued with

any other mafiosos in the area

his television station covers.

[ominous music playing]

We also found out that Maniaci

was only continuing to air

because he was broadcasting on frequencies

owned by other individuals

whose grandfather had been convicted

for Mafia association.

We came to the conclusion

that Pino Maniaci gained financially

from his proximity to the Mafia,

from Mafia families

that he was defending on TV.

[music builds]

I can't wait

to be able to say what I think

and say it in a court of law

because I'm sure of what I wanna say,

and that I can prove it.

[music fading]

Because I'm only talking about the facts,

not hearsay.

- [crickets chirping]

- [calm music playing]

[dog barking]

Pizza!

[Patrizia] See it?

[Pino] Is someone calling you, ma'am?

Ma'am, tell me, do you want some cheese?

Sit down!

I didn't do sh*t.

I have been crucified

for my investigations.

[Giovanni] Come on. I'll do the

A lighter? Shall we light them all?

[Pino] We found out

and we knowingly have touched

high-voltage wires,

which might have burned

or even electrocuted us.

[people shouting]

[screaming]

Extortion is a do ut des.

I give you something

if you give me something.

Since they couldn't find any real crimes,

they used Mayor Lo Biundo.

THE NEXT PROSECUTION WITNESS

IS THE FORMER MAYOR OF PARTINICO,

SALVATORE LO BIUNDO

[Parrino] Two people that Pino Maniaci

allegedly extorted are two mayors,

De Luca, the former mayor of Borgetto,

and Lo Biundo, the mayor of Partinico.

This is legality!

SEPTEMBER 2015

[Pino] Mr. Mayor,

something stinks.

It stinks.

Don't look for the mayor of Partinico.

You won't find him.

He completely left the city to itself

because he's flying high, very high,

in Brussels, in Turin,

to get away from the stink of Partinico.

What the prosecution wants to show,

from its point of view,

is that there's a Maniaci system,

which is a system through which

various public figures,

particularly local politicians

PINO MANIACI'S LAWYER

are publicly attacked

by Maniaci or Telejato,

if they don't pay,

and w*r is waged against them.

When Lo Biundo was called as a witness,

of course, we were anxious.

[Pino] Out of respect for the citizens

who voted for him, he should do one thing.

Resign.

[atmospheric music playing]

NOVEMBER 2018

No, Lo Biundo has to admit

that he was never extorted

by Pino Maniaci, for a start.

Let's see what he said

because you're dreaming about

what he'll say in court.

Let's see what it says here.

Perfect. I'll dream it,

and then we'll put it to the test.

- We'll put my dream to the test.

- Yeah, let's see.

[indistinct chatter]

"I handed money over out of fear."

This is the extortion.

"If I refused, Maniaci would broadcast

extremely damaging reports

for me and my council"

Stop.

We have a council

Yes, wait. Stop there.

I'm just here to show his statements.

Don't argue with me right now.

No. Can't you see

that they make them write these things

Now we'll find out from Lo Biundo.

Okay, perfect.

[suspenseful music playing]

MANIACI'S TRIAL

EXTORTION CHARGE

WITNESS: LO BIUNDO

[judge] Great. Over to you, Prosecutor.

By virtue of this role,

which you have just reported to us,

did you know Pino Maniaci?

I've known him since I went into politics.

We all supported Pino Maniaci's work.

We were all Pino Maniaci at that time.

And he represented

a symbol of legality for everyone.

Was your relationship always good?

Relations were never good

with Pino Maniaci.

Why not?

Relations

Because he didn't leave politicians alone.

He carried on directly attacking us

because he thought

he was the bearer of truth and justice.

THE ALLEGED EXTORTION REVOLVES AROUND

A WOMAN BEING HIRED IN PARTINICO'S COUNCIL

[Pino] This lady is a cleaner

at Partinico Council.

She needed some financial support

to be able to take her daughter to Palermo

and to be able

to carry on looking after her,

so she could get treatment.

Obviously, my request

to Lo Biundo at that time

was strictly related to that lady's needs.

[Luise] Tells us a bit about this woman.

If you met her, why and how you know her.

So, the first time

that I met this lady was

because she came

to my office to do the cleaning.

So do you remember

that her contract was about to expire?

Yes. Yes.

When it expires, what happens?

[Lo Biundo] Pino Maniaci showed up

to support this lady's case.

And I explicitly said

that everything would be done

according to the rankings

and so I couldn't continue the contract

and allow her to carry on working.

Pino's problem is that he's trying

to help someone he cares about.

NOVEMBER 2014

PHONE RECORDINGS

BETWEEN PINO MANIACI AND THE CLEANER

[Pino] I'll look after you.

When you have your 1,500-2,000 euros,

it'll be fine. I can die happy.

[woman] Okay.

[Pino] I want a good life for you

[woman laughs]

a good home.

[woman] sh*t, sh*t,

you always make me cry.

- [Pino] Talk to you later, darling.

- [hangs up]

[Parrino] The lover,

since she had a child

with a very serious disability,

he wanted to help her find a job,

so he used everyone he knew.

He said "You have to let her work.

She deserves it."

But he wasn't subtle about it.

He doesn't care about things like that.

How did Pino Maniaci ask

about hiring this lady?

How did he do it,

and what was at stake if you refused?

He kept pushing

in his usual aggressive and angry way

saying, "Ah, you have to

because she really needs it,"

and all the rest, and so

I agreed to their to his request.

That doesn't match up with

what you've said in the past though.

What do you mean?

Because I don't remember

my whole statement,

so I'd like to understand.

- [Luise] Shall I remind you?

- [Lo Biundo] Yes.

[Luise] So, on this point,

"I agreed to give her money."

- Did you pay her?

- Yes. Yes.

From your pocket?

From my pocket, yes.

"I was scared that if I refused to pay,

Maniaci would broadcast

damaging things about me and my council."

It was a concern, but like I said,

it was a constant concern that he'd do it.

[Parrino] Here is

where the whole charge crumbles.

In that moment, when the mayor says,

"You know Pino Maniaci, his ways,

at this point to get him out of my way"

The crime is gone.

Have you ever been threatened

by Pino Maniaci?

On TV,

in relation to my political activities.

- Threatened how?

- Political, it the

- Not threats.

- No, threats.

Threats meaning,

"If you don't do this, I'll do this."

Absolutely. Never. No.

I thought you were talking about Sorry.

- Verbal attacks.

- Verbal attacks.

It's different from a threat.

Okay. No more questions, thank you.

I think the hearing went very well.

The former Mayor Lo Biundo

was one of the main witnesses,

and today he said he'd never

been threatened by Pino Maniaci

and that he hadn't committed a crime

or an unlawful act

by helping a lady who needed help

because she was in social hardship.

Even though the hearing went well,

you can't expect me

to go home and celebrate,

or that I'll arrive home

to hugs and kisses.

Today's hearing was sensitive.

It plunges a knife

into a wound for my family

because they keep talking

about Pino Maniaci's lover.

Right?

[horn honking]

OCTOBER 2014

TELEPHONE RECORDINGS

BETWEEN PINO MANIACI AND HIS LOVER

[phone rings]

[Pino] You don't know how powerful

Pino Maniaci is. Don't worry.

- I'll make sure you'll come out on top.

- [woman laughs]

I can get you a job anywhere.

[woman] Did he say yes?

[Pino] Of course he said yes.

[woman] You make everyone tremble in fear

with your TV station.

[Pino] I already called the mayor.

I told him the figures didn't add up.

He said, "Oh, really?"

"Yes, like I told you."

He said, "So, what do we need to do,

a double wage?"

"No, no," I said,

"Not f*cking double, triple."

You'll get €1,800 a month.

I don't even get that.

[woman] Except I'd have to

blow it up for you.

[Pino] You only get

to blow one thing of mine.

[woman] Your d*ck.

PINO MANIACI'S BIRTHPLACE

MANIACI

BAKERY

[man] I could write an encyclopedia

about my brother Pino.

Apart from some lies,

which we forget about,

it's part of what makes his personality.

He's had plenty of misfortune.

[sad music playing]

Pino got married in September 1980.

Barely a year later, he had a daughter.

He wasn't there for her first birthday

because he had run off with another woman.

A certain Patrizia.

Then recently,

he started seeing someone else,

so he had problems with Patrizia.

He made a mess.

[Pino] So where's that coffee?

I told him not just once, but hundreds

and thousands of times because

everyone likes sex

but there are rules to follow, right?

For the whole family,

the trial is something that

Because there are

things that aren't right.

You know why they aren't right?

Because they are

basically accusing Pino because

a girl asked him for a job

and so she was his lover.

Pino, a lover?

[keys jangling]

- [Pino] Where's Letizia?

- [Patrizia] In the bathroom.

I'm strong,

but there are moments when perhaps

something they said,

it comes into your head, you know?

I'm not made of iron.

I'm upset as well.

Let's put it like this.

If someone makes a mistake

I say that I didn't make a mistake.

If someone likes

to f*ck,

they can't be anti-Mafia?

[dramatic music playing]

[newscaster] The former president

of the Preventive Measures Department

of the Court of Palermo is on trial.

Silvana Saguto announced

that she will fight back

and prove her commitment to justice.

[Saguto] It's not nice to be on trial

because being on trial

is already a kind of punishment.

I don't see any weak points

in our defense.

If someone wants to make something up,

they can make something up.

[Lorenzo] I think this will be

a particularly difficult period.

It depends how they present

the various charges

and how they support them.

I'm being realistic.

- I know you're being pessimistic.

- No.

- That's a different thing.

- No, no, no, no, no.

You've always been pessimistic.

I realize

that this sentence will only end badly

if there's a conspiracy against me.

[sinister music playing]

FEBRUARY 2019

SAGUTO'S TRIAL IS IN CALTANISSETTA,

130 KM FROM PALERMO

BECAUSE JUDGES

CAN'T BE TRIED IN THEIR OWN DISTRIC

Today, I want to be able

to finally express my opinion

by going to the Caltanissetta court

and explaining everything I've done.

I know I behaved well,

not only in line with what was my duty,

but also I went beyond that,

risking my life to be able

to make preventive measures

effective enough to fight the Mafia.

SAGUTO'S TRIAL

CROSS-EXAMINATION OF SILVANA SAGUTO

This is an extraordinary trial

because of the complexity of the issues,

the number of charges,

and the individuals involved.

We're talking about judges.

We're talking about lawyers,

we're talking about public functions

that were carried out.

The sentence will be part of the history

of the administration of justice in Italy.

[Saguto] When I walked into the courtroom,

I was ready to go. I wanted to speak.

Judge Saguto

what did you do

when Maniaci's first reports

with Telejato came out?

We probably underestimated

the power of the media

even from these uneducated people.

We found out that Telejato

was doing anti-Mafia work

but also taking money from the Mafia.

A construction business owner

who owned a quarry who had

The administrator told me

that he had found

several payments of €6,000 to Telejato.

Impastato, which was another quarry

we had seized,

they gave him cars.

We started to understand

why Maniaci was so angry with us.

I made the mistake

of not reporting him straight away,

because he might have shut up,

and perhaps none of this

would have happened, because strangely,

they all went along

with the ravings of a lunatic.

[woman] Madam,

I'd like to move onto your relations

with the lawyer

Cappellano Seminara for a moment.

PUBLIC PROSECUTOR

You say that you are

completely independent

from Cappellano Seminara,

so there is absolutely

no economic interest

in Cappellano Seminara's

financial affairs.

Is that correct?

[Saguto] Yes.

Cappellano Seminara

was the most in demand

from all the judges, all my colleagues.

We said there was no one as good as him

because he was so organized.

There was no point

in me recommending this or that,

as long as they were good people.

Do you know what the amounts paid

to your husband Lorenzo Caramma

by Cappellano Seminara were?

No, no, no.

You know what you have written down.

I don't know.

I don't know. I have no idea.

[Pasciuti] The financial police estimates

around one and a half million euros,

and, how should I put this,

the payments from Cappellano Seminara

were around €1,200,000.

- [Saguto] I have no idea.

- [Pasciuti] So I'm not that good at math.

- But I'd say that 80%

- [Saguto] I don't think it's

I don't know. I can't answer that.

It might seem strange,

but since these payments were made

a long time after the job was completed,

I lost track over time.

I asked Cappellano for the payments

of sums already accrued

when we were in difficulty.

What were the terms, please?

Well, I wouldn't have pulled out

a g*n to ask him.

When President Saguto was managing

the Preventive Measures Department,

there wasn't a system

or a "magic circle" of any kind,

there was no favoring

of certain administrators over others.

And with regard to Cappellano Seminara,

the number and the type

of assignments that he got

were comparable to those given

to other judicial administrators.

I've brought this booklet

because, as Bonaccorso will remember,

he came to my office

because he was a public prosecutor.

All us judges had a box

with all the business cards

of different administrators

who were recommended or put forward.

Almost every card says

who recommended them.

Here they all are.

They're all here.

Saguto arrived in court

with this card holder

and then read it, or pretended to read it.

She showed it,

while reminding the prosecutor

that he went to her office.

It was a clear threat.

Either you acquit me,

or I tell you the names

of all the judges that came by my office.

We say, "Samson dies

along with all the Philistines."

[dramatic music playing]