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01x03 - End Game

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Evil by Design: Exposing Peter Nygård". Aired: March 17, 2022.*
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Finnish immigrant Peter Nygård quickly rises to become the darling of Canadian fashion.

01x03 - End Game

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THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM

CONTAINS EXCLUSIVE IMAGES

AND FIRST-HAND ACCOUNTS
FROM SURVIVORS.

We love Nygård.

Peter Nygård,

the man behind a multi-million-dollar
fashion empire...

Nygård built what he considered
one of the wonders of the world.

And he had these pamper parties
every Sunday.

There was a tip that was sent in

that he was a predator
who was luring young women,

and then he would r*pe them.

He would come down

and basically pick who he wants.

The bartenders would slip drugs,
mickeys in the drinks.

He forced himself on me.

He took my virginity.

Put it that way.

Once you're inside the compound,

you're not leavin' the compound
unless Nygård allows you out.

After we filed the initial lawsuit
and people heard about it,

it was an avalanche of calls.

I'm seeing he's arrested
for r*pe in 1980.

I'm hearing this former employee,
who I knew,

had accused him
of drugging and raping her.

Let me be very clear.

The women that we know about
is the tip of the iceberg.

The father that I thought I had
wasn't real.

I was dealing with the man
behind the curtain, so to speak.

And that person was... evil.

In the early parts of 2020,

I had been twelve years
working on this story,

investigating Peter Nygård.

He was still a big figure
at that point.

He still had power at that point.

But there were ten women now
saying something had happened.

Young women who said
they'd been r*ped in the Bahamas.

But it was civil case.

That's different
from a criminal case.

I mean, anybody
can sue anybody for anything.

It was a significant beginning,
but it wasn't the end.

And I don't think people knew
for sure what was gonna happen.

So my decision to go against him

was after a series of events
had transpired.

And then our relationship
began to go downhill

in terms of how I viewed him as a man
and what he was capable of.

As we were getting closer to 2020,

somehow I caught a glimpse
of this book

that had been written about him
called the Predator King.

PREDATOR KING

That was a wake-up call.

I talked to Nygård
about this Me Too movement coming.

And he told me,

"Oh, don't worry about that, son.

I have heard of these things
trying to come for me.

They've been tryin' this for years,
but they could never do anything.

I don't have a skeleton
in my closet."

But I was convinced

that he needed
to face these accusations

in a court of law.

Then the FBI
raided the New York and LA offices.

NEW YORK
FEBRUARY 25, 2020

Raid in Times Square
at a fashion company's headquarters

as part
of a sex trafficking investigation.

The FBI and NYPD

were on the scene
of Peter Nygård's company.

He's been under investigation
for months,

after a number of women accused him
of sexually assaulting them

at his estate in the Bahamas
when they were young teens.

SICK SEX SLAMS

Scandalous allegations.

They're false allegations.

Totally false.

And they will
and are being vigorously denied

by Peter Nygård.

That was big news

because that showed me
not only was the civil suit engaged,

but that the FBI was engaged.

And they're not gonna just raid
the offices on a whim.

They were asking for travel records,
financial records.

They were asking
for internal emails and reports.

It was thousands of documents

they were asking to be turned over
by the company to the FBI

so they could keep
their investigation going.

It was the first hope in 50 years
that something might actually happen.

But after his offices were raided,

someone went in
and destroyed a lot of documents.

That was another massive red flag
because you could make the argument

that much of the evidence,
if it did exist,

would have been
in the Nygård servers,

and this was very important documents

that would be useful
to the investigation.

He still had a lot of money,

and he still had a number of people
helping him out

who were getting paid by him.

So the worry was that he would leave,

maybe go to the Caribbean,
to the Philippines.

And that some of his protectors

were getting his assets
transferred offshore.

You can't stop somebody

from fleeing the country
until you have an arrest warrant.

So what do we need to do
to get an arrest warrant?

My name is Jennifer Hoffman.

I live in the Chicagoland area.

And in 2002,
I was introduced to the photographer

that ultimately trafficked me
into Nygård Cay.

It was a friend
of my friend's boyfriend,

but he happened
to be a successful photographer.

And, you know, I had mentioned
I was working on my acting career

and trying to put together
a modelling book.

He was super nice.

And, you know, he was quick to say
that he would totally help me out.

He had brought up the idea

of visiting Peter Nygård
in the Bahamas.

It felt exciting to be invited
to go to a private island.

It was an opportunity of a lifetime
to go work for somebody

who was an international
textiles manufacturer

in the fashion industry.

It was lush and gorgeous.

Gigantic, sprawling compounds.

Just the most beautiful architecture.

Pristine landscaping.

And just seeing all of that
for the first time, in real life,

it was like a movie.

The bar, the music,
everything was flowing.

Appetizers were everywhere.
Just plates and plates of food.

And beautiful people in sparkles.

Everyone was just sparkling.

And then I started to not feel well.

I was like, "Wait. Am I tired?
I don't feel well. I'm nauseous."

I was really questioning
if I was too drunk,

but I had only had...

just had two drinks.

But from that point, moving forward,

is when I really lost complete touch
with myself and my body,

where I literally lost
my limb strength,

where my arms and legs
became noodles...

as I lost control, really,
of my body and of my mind.

For the next several hours,

I was violently assaulted
not only by Nygård

but by another woman

who was attending the event,
a friend of his.

And I'll never forget being held down
by him, but also by her.

I just couldn't stop
what was happening.

These all look extremely innocent.

You look very young.
You don't even have any makeup on.

I was 23.

My name's Shannon Moroney,
and I'm a social worker/therapist.

I provide support and treatment

to many Nygård survivors,
family members,

and some past employees.

I started with two.

Now I... have over 40.

For all of my survivors who said
they'd be interested in reporting,

but they didn't know
how to start, how to do it,

they were afraid,
they didn't want to be judged,

I... like, "That's okay.

Find out who you can talk to."

I investigated
which attorneys that I could call,

who were on this case.

Like, who could I call to help me?

And I was able to find out
who had taken the civil case.

I checked out their website
and it was like,

if you think that you are
a victim of Peter Nygård,

that you could call this number
and it'd be a safe place to call.

I couldn't believe
I was reading those words.

I'd been waiting to see those words
in print for so long.

I'd been waiting
to not be the only one.

And after I let the attorneys
know about what happened to me,

and I shared my story with them,

I also let them know I really wanted
to speak with law enforcement.

The law enforcement contacted me,

the NYPD who's working on this case
alongside the FBI.

I'd compiled quite a bit of evidence.

Lists of names,
people I interacted with,

photographs, documents.

And I gave them to my new attorneys,

and then I also passed them off
to the Department of Justice.

All I want to do is stop him.
All I want to do is make sure

that no one
is ever hurt by this person again

and that he is held accountable
for what he did to me,

that it's publicly known
that he's a predator,

and that he's been preying
on innocent people

for all of these years.

Justice is part of good mental health
because if my survivor tells me,

"I do want to be able
to report this to police.

I do want to see him behind bars,"

then my job
is to make sure they have access

to all of those forms of justice

and that each of my Nygård survivors

are given back the voice
that was taken from them.

I think the word spread,

and it got back to the lawyers

that "I really like my therapist.
I feel comfortable to talk with her."

And I began just being referred
more and more.

What you want in any crime,
if it's available,

is you want to turn
as many people as you can

into witnesses for you
against the charged defendant,

and you try to work
always in this direction.

Women slowly start to come forward
and are more willing to talk.

And as this gets more organized,

they realize
that they should go to the police.

DOZENS OF NEW ACCUSERS
ADDED TO NYGÅRD SEX SUIT

Wasn't until the civil lawsuit
occurred

that there was momentum in the truth.

My name is Pamela Erickson,

and I worked for Nygård
for approximately 15 years.

I was on the team that helped
to brand the face to the company.

I was the person that was behind
promoting the man to the brand.

It was misleading

because he was not
that man behind the smile.

The true Peter Nygård
was not that smile.

His ego was so extreme
at times he would even say he was God

and that he was
the only god we needed.

And to call himself God...
And "Does he really believe that?"

And you'd stop and think,
"You know what? I think he does."

The issue is,
Nygård had everybody sign NDAs.

Legally they could not come forward
and speak

until it was a criminal investigation
and then the NDA is not valid.

Basically, coming forward
and speaking with the authorities

gives you an opportunity
to start healing,

and it gives you a sense
that you are taking your life back.

FEDERAL BUILDING

I told them that I was open
to speak to the Federal authorities

and discuss people I knew,
names I knew, information,

to help in their investigation.

It has empowered all of us

to come forward
and know that this time is different.

When you're talking about somebody
who is going to have to reveal

the most intimate details
of her life,

it's an incredibly difficult process.

My name is Moira Penza.

I was the lead prosecutor
on the NXIVM case.

I spearheaded the investigation

and first-chaired
the trial against Keith Raniere

on behalf of the government.

When you have these sexual predators,

there is a real fear

that they are going
to continue to hurt people

as long as they are free.

I don't think any prosecutor ever
looks at their case as a slam dunk.

So you want as many ways

to corroborate these witnesses
as you can.

Because at the end of the day,

the defendant
is entitled to a fair trial,

is entitled to confront his accusers.

I talked to Greg Gutzler
on April 19th of 2020,

and he told me
that the civil suit had ballooned

from ten women to 57 women
in the course of about seven weeks,

and that it was not
just Bahamian women.

Now it's Canadian women, Americans,

from the '70s, '80s, '90s,
former employees.

This is a pattern of behavior
that now we're finding out is real

and not only that,
that he's dangerous.

And I said,
"I want to do whatever I can

to help this investigation

and to make sure that he has to face
his accusers in a court of law."

I wasn't certain if I could trust him

because you can't trust anybody
in the Nygård world.

So I was cautious at first.

I wanted to make sure
I wasn't being played.

And I found very quickly
that I was not.

Kai was genuine in his desire
to determine the truth

and, most importantly,
to expose the truth.

60 EAST
42ND STREET

At this point, now,
more people were coming forward.

But we were still months away

from criminal charges
being processed.

And now, for me,
I felt I was at the end of the road,

that he was going to leave Canada
the second week of September.

I was convinced of it.

Because throughout his history,

he stayed at his lake cottage
until the end of the summer,

and then he leaves.

He doesn't stick around Winnipeg
for the winter.

So I reached out
to Caroline Barghout.

Go for it.

I had been reading her articles,

and I felt that she was a fair

and detailed
investigative journalist.

And it was sort
of a Hail Mary pass of desperation

at that point for myself.

I still had some trepidation
of coming out

at the time as Kai Nygård

or... Kai Bickle Nygård
or any of that.

So I just came out as Nygård's son.

Mine is now recording.

Okay.

Kai.

How are you feeling right now?

I want to just say
to all the people out there

who may have been hurt by him

that now is the time to come forward,

confidentially,
to your local authorities,

and to speak
your truth and your experience.

Kai has been instrumental
in many things

and, most importantly,
giving credibility to us

so that people
who are witnesses or victims

would come speak and feel safe.

I was getting messages

from women who were contacting me
through social media and other forms,

and then I was just playing

a role of, "These are your options.
Here. Talk to this person.

Talk to these professionals."

Kai was actually...
He was being quoted and...

and I thought...

Everything inside of me just dropped.

And I was like,
"This monster has kids?"

But I thought,
"Oh, my God. How brave is he,

that he's fighting against this
monster whose genetics are in him?"

'Cause I refuse
to call that monster his dad

because Kai deserves better.

And he was my warrior.

So I emailed the reporter and I said,

"Hey. Is there anyone
that, you know, that I could talk to?

Like, I just have some questions."

And within five minutes,
my phone rang,

and I spoke to this amazing lawyer.

And I don't know what it was.

It just... It just came out.

Everything.

And she said, "I believe you."

And I was like, "Thank you."

NYGÅRD'S SON FEARS DAD WILL FLEE...

That was difficult,
that September 17th story.

And that morning,
I wept before it came out

because it was
just another layer of betrayal

of a father/son dynamic.

I love this jacket. Your '80s jacket.

But one of the beautiful things that
came from it was Serena Hickes.

If it wasn't for Kai standing up
and if it wasn't for that reporter...

Oh, this is so hard to say,
but I don't know if I'd be here.

I think it just would've taken me in
like a big wave.

I was happy. It was worth it
when I came out with my story,

when I found out
that Serena had been affected by it,

that it meant something to her.

So that made it worth it.

So, right now, in the civil case,
we have 125 victims.

And they range from,
I think, the year 1977 to 2019.

They have retained us,

and we have verified and corroborated
each of their stories.

So we're about 125 survivors

of Peter Nygård's
sex trafficking conspiracy.

And I think that that number

is probably ten percent
of what the real number is.

That's my opinion.

But 125 is a pretty damning number.

That's astounding to me
that there's 125.

So... I mean,
that's just a huge number of people.

It's amazing, 'cause it was hard
to get people to come on the record.

And it's like a relief, you know?

Every time there was a new story,
more survivors were coming forward.

Which then you're connecting
to the civil and to the criminal,

which you're trying
to build up this case

so they have enough evidence
to apprehend him,

so he'll have to face trial.

So it's this constant flow.

The civil system
will often inspire or instigate

a criminal investigation,

an investigation
that should've been done long ago,

but sometimes they don't have
the resources to investigate,

and sometimes the civil lawyers do.

Around the same time that the FBI
is investigating Peter Nygård,

there was an investigation
that went on in Winnipeg

into Peter Nygård

involving a number of women
for almost a year.

I stepped forward

to try to lend some credibility
to the women in the Bahamas

and also to establish
that there was a historic precedent

for his depraved disrespect
of human life.

We were in contact with the survivors
whose cases were being investigated.

We knew they had gone to police.

And as one woman put,

"You know, I flayed my soul
in front of the police."

And they did this,
and then they waited.

And they waited.

And then finally...
they got the news.

No charges in Winnipeg for anybody.

We'll begin today
with new developments

on allegations
made against Peter Nygård.

The Winnipeg Police Service says
it won't be filing criminal charges

against the former fashion mogul.

Oh, my whole timeline,
everything had been proven.

They followed up.
They had my employee records.

They had the dates.
They had everything.

And they said, "You're not going
to be a credible witness.

We're not taking this case
any further."

I'm ashamed.

I'm just ashamed.

I don't know
what I would have done differently

had I known
that eight brave souls in Winnipeg

were going to be denied
their credibility,

denied the viability of the crime
that happened against them.

It's a disgrace.

I, right now, apologize to the women
who may have stepped forward

because they followed my lead.

I owe them an apology.

What happened in Winnipeg?

Nothing happened for these women,
these survivors, nothing.

The hardest thing
is watching them suffer

in the justice process

as much as they suffered
at the hands of Peter Nygård.

That's the hardest thing for me.

After April of 2020,

I have this situation happen
where my brothers come up.

I've got a younger brother
who reaches out

to another brother of mine,

confides in him that he feels
he was statutorily r*ped,

orchestrated by Nygård.

And the brother that he spoke to

then confided to him that he had
the same experience happen to him

with the same woman, 15 years apart,

which is... crazy.

So I represent two of his sons.
They are John Does.

Peter Nygård instructed,

and I have witnesses
that said, "I heard him say it,"

to "make a man out of my son."

And she r*ped them at his direction,
instruction and requirement.

My brothers came to me,
I encouraged them to file civilly

and to look
at potentially file criminally.

Of the two of them,
one was able to speak criminally,

who is still the minor.

He was very bold
and decisive and strong.

Yeah, I'm proud of those guys.

It's a betrayal that no 14-year-old
could ever wrap their head around.

I don't know how you process that.

I don't even know how you can...

You can't apply logic to it
because it doesn't make sense.

And so what do you do with that?

It just sits in your mind and it's
a tough thing to wrestle with.

And then to confront
your father with it?

I'm honored
that they asked me to represent them.

So we knew, behind the scenes,
that money was being... liquidated.

And these two companies,
Edson's and Brause,

were in charge of the rest of
the remaining Nygård assets

that hadn't been seized in the USA.

And people were joining
Edson's and Brause as "directors,"

essentially acting
as alter egos for Peter Nygård,

enabling him to liquidate assets,

to move it away from survivors,
to move it away from debt collectors.

So my brother and I
were making an effort now

to try to slow that down
as much as we could

and cause roadblocks and stall it.

The goal is to take away
the money and the power

because that is how sexual predators
get away with it.

U WANT TO SILENCE EVERY VOICE

THAT COMES FORWARD NOW
WITH A STORY ABOUT YOU,

BECAUSE U SAY
IT'S ALL TRASH CREATED BY BACON.

PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD.
THESE ARE VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.

IT HURT ME
THAT MY NO1 SON BECAME THE VICTIM.

I received a text from Nygård.

And he sent me a picture of my mom,
myself, and my two sisters

when we were a family,
and he said,

"This still hangs proudly
on my wall in the cottage,"

and, like, goodbye forever,
basically.

He's a master of manipulation,

but I wasn't gonna let that
flip me to,

"Dad, I'm so sorry. Let me..."
You know? I...

That's when I went ahead

and officially, legally, changed my
name as an official renouncement

of the Nygård name
and Nygård as my father.

It was December of 2020,

and Peter Nygård
was living in Winnipeg.

He'd bought himself a million-dollar
house in Winnipeg in the suburbs.

He was kind of sequestered there.

We knew that the FBI
had raided his offices,

that this civil class action suit
was moving along,

that women started to talk publicly
about what had happened to them.

And everybody was waiting
for the final hammer to drop.

And then I remember I was
going for a run when my phone rang.

I started getting all these texts
from different people and media,

who texted me and just said,
"Is this real?"

I got a phone call saying,
"We're hearing rumors of an arrest."

We're following breaking news
out of Winnipeg.

Peter Nygård was arrested

in his hometown of Winnipeg
last night,

following a US extradition request.

He's been indicted
in the Southern District of New York

on multiple charges
of sex trafficking.

More than 50 women have accused
Nygård of sexual as*ault,

claims that date
all the way back to the 1970s.

NYGÅRD LEGACY FACES RECKONING

It was a massive relief for me
that he actually was in custody

and wouldn't be able to hurt anyone
and wouldn't be able to take off.

I see the New York Times headline
that Peter Nygård has been indicted.

My entire body started shaking.

What he was alleged to have done

concerns forced sexual activity,
and underage sexual activity,

all done knowingly,
all done by Peter Nygård,

and sexual trafficking

of underage girls and non-underage
girls for that purpose.

"In the United States District Court,
Southern District of New York,

United States of America
versus Peter Nygård."

Nine counts.

The day he was arrested,

was one of the most satisfying,
gratifying, thankful days of my life.

I just thought, "Finally. Finally."

"Nygård frequently targeted
women and minor-aged girls

who came from disadvantaged
economic backgrounds."

"Count two is conspiracy
to commit sex trafficking."

"He controlled his victims
through threats,

false promises
of modelling opportunities,

and other career advancement."

"Count five, sex trafficking
by force, fraud or coercion."

"Nygård forcibly sexually assaulted
some of his victims.

Other victims were forcibly assaulted
by Nygård's associates

or drugged to ensure their compliance
with his sexual demands."

I was shocked.

I was pleasantly surprised,
but I was shocked.

But why, if these actions
were taking place in the Bahamas,

why is it being charged in New York?
'Cause it can be charged in New York.

The United States
has a very long arm to charge

for crimes that even take place
in the Bahamas,

so long as some aspect of that crime
took place in New York.

So that could be an email.

It can be a flight
that lands in New York.

A telephone conversation where one
of the participants is in New York.

That's all you need
to establish Federal jurisdiction.

New York is the proper place for
jurisdiction because Nygård

ran his entire sex trafficking
operation through his company.

His company had its world
headquarters in Times Square,

a few blocks from here.

It's October 2021,

and Peter Nygård's been charged
with sex trafficking in New York.

The Americans obviously wanted him
to come to New York

to face the charges.

So there was a request
for extradition.

And that happens here in Canada.

What makes something a Federal crime
is having a certain federal nexus

that is built
into the federal statute.

So, for example,
crossing state lines,

using other means
of interstate commerce

to commit certain sex crimes.

And, certainly, there is power
in charging somebody

under the Federal laws.

Sex trafficking carries
serious mandatory minimum sentences.

There are more stringent penalties
that are in place.

So there was a hearing in Winnipeg.

We went there to watch the hearing
and report on it.

OCT. 1 2021 EXTRADITION HEARING

This is the case
of the United States versus Nygård.

He's always unequivocally maintained
his innocence of any wrongdoing.

He and his lawyer
surprised all of us and stood up,

and said he was gonna agree
to be extradited.

And that was the end of it.

It was supposed
to last a week or more,

and it lasted 20 minutes
because he agreed to go.

This process can now move forward

in order for him
to face trial in the United States

on an expedited basis,

and for him to have the opportunity
to raise his defense

and to challenge the truthfulness

of the evidence
which has been brought against him.

We don't know what the legal strategy
is behind that.

Maybe he didn't want the evidence
to play out in a public courtroom.

...the matters brought forward so
that he can get on with... his fight,

and his fight will be... in New York.

And then these charges
happened in Toronto.

The breaking news,

courtesy of our colleagues
at The Fifth Estate,

is that Peter Nygård
is now facing charges in Canada,

the first charges laid against him
here, in Canada,

from Toronto police.

Multiple counts of sexual as*ault,
nine counts in total,

including six women,

one of whom was a minor
at the time of the alleged as*ault.

Today he boarded a flight
in police custody

from Winnipeg to Toronto to be
brought to justice on Ontario soil

for multiple sex as*ault charges.

When you look at hundreds
of survivors coming forward,

you look at the Toronto police
charging him,

you look
at the Department of Justice

and the FBI bringing a criminal claim
against Peter Nygård,

who do you believe?

I drove
by Toronto South Detention Centre,

and I took a picture of it

just because, for some people,
they want to see how secure is it?

Can Peter Nygård get out of there?

Because they know him
to have gotten away with everything,

for years, and they do not trust.

It became clear
as this was unfolding

that the greatest enablers
for Peter Nygård and his crimes

were the legal loopholes
he took advantage of.

And those were loopholes
that protected him for decades.

And his whole strategy
was to drag out lawsuits,

drain you of your time,
drain you of your money,

because he could afford to.

And that's one
of the big takeaways from this,

is how do we level the playing field

so that you can't take advantage
of the situation

just because you have more money
than another person?

The legal system
needs to put in measures

to protect the victims

from the more powerful people
that they accuse,

because they realize

usually they can't do anything,
and so they don't do anything.

They remain silent.

They do not want to get crushed
by the power of these people.

I don't believe he in jail.

I'm not gonna lie to you.

Like, I have all kind of doubts
and paranoids behind this.

Even if he there,

I just have a feelin'

that he has bought someone,
some way, or something...

He will find a way out.

The most important thing
to my clients

is that Peter Nygård
is never released from jail.

That's the most important thing.

They don't ever want him
to hurt anybody else.

I traveled with one of my clients
to Nygård Cay in the Bahamas

as part of her healing journey.

She wanted to retrace her steps
as much as possible.

I'm on a plane landing
and I'm thinking about, you know,

what it was like
for the survivor that I was with.

What was in their minds
when they were going there?

"Oh, this is my big break.

This is the opportunity
of a lifetime.

And it's paradise."

And more than anything, she wanted
to reclaim her younger self.

She felt like a big part of her
was left behind.

SHANNON MORONEY PERSONAL VIDEO

We went to the gate at Nygård Cay,

and the gate...
the gate is something...

is something
to not just see but feel.

It is huge. It is black iron.

There is barbed wire.
There's razor wire.

And then behind it,
when you look through it,

the first thing that you see

is this huge statue
of serpents, of snakes.

It's massive. Those were his symbols.

So many people
had described to me these snakes.

And so what I wanted to do was to
start to neutralize a place like that

for survivors themselves.

To put some element of beauty there

that represents them
and who they are

beyond what happened to them.

I'm Shannon Moroney

and I have the privilege
of being the therapist and advocate

for many survivors of Peter Nygård.

And I made this wreath

just to represent the uniqueness
of each and every girl, woman,

whose life was harmed by him.

There's been a societal shift

and an understanding
about the nature of power dynamics

and understanding predators
and how they operate.

I've had people ask me

if I think it's directly correlated
with the Me Too movement.

I think that the Me Too movement
is a reflection

of what were changing societal views
of this topic.

-What do we want?
-Justice!

-When do we want it?
-Now!

If we can channel some of this energy
and anger and frustration,

if we can channel it into actually
making some real changes,

then it's not all for nothing.

We have formed
a group of former employees, and...

and Kai and I have formed

an entity called Providing Hope
for Justice Incorporated.

And we will help
with getting Nygård employees

counselling and healing
to move forward.

And we have a customized app
called Hashtag Not Me Nygård.

It's been challenging,
but you know what?

There's been challenges
all throughout history,

and it's not anything
that can't be overcome.

There's always light
at the end of the tunnel.

I've found, for me, that the greatest
solace I can take in this

is when you channel these efforts

towards some sort
of constructive, meaningful actions.

And, for me, I've been very lucky

that CHILD USA
focuses on changing laws

to protect children
and to protect women

and other potential survivors
of abuse.

So to work
with CHILD USA and their team

has been a beautiful experience.

Peter Nygård openly, you know,
aspired to be Hugh Hefner.

That whole lifestyle.

That's really the question
that we need to ask now.

Why did we celebrate that?

Because what we really did was
allow it, promote it, and support it.

Here's somebody
who had this fashion empire

who was trying to portray himself
as a legitimate businessman.

And so to really look
behind the curtain

and to see what was he actually doing

and that it really is,
at the most base level,

operating as a crime boss.

I think that there was people who...
They didn't drink the Kool-Aid.

They made the Kool-Aid
and shared the Kool-Aid.

I think when you look at somebody,
like a Ghislaine Maxwell,

when you look at the people
who are closest to these people,

who have seen the inner workings,

who are benefitting the most,

I think it's appropriate
to hold them responsible.

Some people, in this case,
I have no compassion for.

They were pure opportunists.
They did objectively horrible things.

They should absolutely be
held accountable.

That's a bigger question
that needs to be looked at, you know?

Lots of people
knew what was happening.

And no one tried to stop it.

My children don't know
everything about my past.

But because I have them now,

I don't feel like I have the time
and the leisure

to just sit down and cry

or feel bad about the things
what already happen.

If I could change them, I would.
But I can't.

I try not to be weak or sad
or broken about it.

The only thing I could do
is see to it

that it don't happen to my children.

I'm ashamed for people
to know of what he did.

Especially to me.

I was ashamed from then.
I'm still ashamed.

I just get more courage
to talk about it now.

It has deeply impacted me

in a way
that has forever changed my life.

For the last 20 years almost,
it's been a roller-coaster of...

a nightmare.

It's been survival.

It's been like pure survival.

There's different forms of abuse,
and looking back on it now,

I see myself as a survivor of abuse,

and I see my family
as survivors of abuse.

My mom is a survivor.

For those that are calling
themselves survivors,

I'm so happy for them.

I'm not near feeling
like a survivor yet.

I am very much in victim still.

And that's a hard way
to wake up every day.

I dedicated, really,
a year of my life to this.

It became an obsession
to do everything I could.

I didn't want to leave
anything on the table.

But at the end of the day,
I'm Peter Nygård's son.

That's it. And it's... it's hard.

So his world has collapsed,

and Peter Nygård
is sitting in a jail cell,

facing criminal charges.

His stores closed.
His factories closed.

He was removed
from the head of his company.

It became practically worthless.

His estate in the Bahamas
is owned by someone else.

It's literally crumbling
and falling apart.

Peter Nygård's bail has been denied.

The Toronto charges will continue.

And the people in New York
are waiting.

Being able to share the story,
to get the message out there,

to assist in any way possible
with the current case against him,

is equally cathartic and healing.

But, like I said, that final piece

is that, you know, justice
will prevail

and he will be convicted,
and he will remain in jail

for as long as is commensurate
with the damage that he has done.

And that'll finish
the healing process for me.

I don't need to hear "guilty."

I don't need to hear those things,
'cause I know he's guilty.

But I just need a courthouse,
I need a place to stand and...

and say I'm a survivor at that point.

When he said to me,

"This is not about wanting to.

This is about competition
and I'm gonna win," guess what?

This time, I won.

So competition, over.

AS OF THE COMPLETION
OF THIS PROGRAM,

PETER NYGÅRD
REMAINS IN CUSTODY IN TORONTO.

CHARGES AGAINST HIM INCLUDE

SEXUAL as*ault,
FORCIBLE CONFINEMENT,

AND SEX TRAFFICKING.

ON MARCH 22ND 2022,
CANADA'S JUSTICE MINISTER

CONFIRMED THAT PETER NYGÅRD

WOULD BE EXTRADITED
TO THE UNITED STATES.

TRIAL DATES HAVE NOT BEEN SET.

NO CHARGES
HAVE BEEN FILED IN WINNIPEG.

THE PRODUCERS CONTACTED
MR. NYGÅRD'S REPRESENTATIVES

IN THE COURSE
OF PRODUCING THIS PROGRAM.

THEY DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE

AND ADVISED
THAT "MR. NYGÅRD CATEGORICALLY DENIES

ALL ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING."