01x01 - The Healer

[bunniefuu]

SCENES OF UNCONVENTIONAL SURGERY

AND REPORTS OF SEXUAL ABUSE

MAY BE TRIGGERING TO SOME

- [man speaking Portuguese]

- [translator] God, our Father

who is all power and kindness,

give strength to those

who face tribulations.

Give light to those who seek the truth.

And fill the human heart

with compassion and charity.

God.

[breathes deeply]

[quiet piano music plays]

A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY SERIES

[woman] Abadiânia is a small town

located near Goiânia,

but the things that happen here

in the field of paranormality,

have brought a lot of fame to this city.

[man in English] A faith healer

who calls himself John of God

offers alternative treatments

for spiritual and physical ailments.

People from all over the world

come to see him.

[guitar music plays]

[man 2] Incredible miracles happened.

People received healings.

There were many buses

coming from São Paulo, Bahia,

from Rio Grande do Sul

for people to get healed.

[guitar music continues]

[woman in Portuguese]

For more than 40 years now,

the medium known as John of God

claims to channel healing spirits

and to perform spiritual surgeries.

[man] How are you?

[man 2 in English]

John of God claims to be Catholic,

but his healing center

is open to people from all faiths.

[John in Portuguese] God, our Father,

who is all power and kindness.

[woman] If the spirit takes him,

he might be King Solomon one day

and a surgeon the next.

[guitar music continues]

We feel the strength of this entity

because it is a strength

that comes from God.

Today, he is known in Brazil

as a saint.

[John] Carry her, please.

[woman in French]

John of God performs surgeries

without asepsis or anesthesia,

using kitchen knives,

scalpels, and scissors.

[John in Portuguese] I'm not a doctor.

I'm a medium.

[man] I've seen many people

with cancer and terminal illnesses

that were cured in the first intervention.

[John] Lean on your right leg.

Throw your crutches away.

Walk a little faster now.

It was so strong, I had to sit down.

I thought I was gonna pass out.

[John] It's a gift from God.

I was given this mission by God

and I will accomplish it.

[woman] But as much light

and miracles that there are,

there's also the dark side.

[woman 2] He used to say,

"I'm reaching rock bottom for you,

and you don't want to cooperate."

He stared at me. He looked me in the eye

He normally doesn't look

at people in the eye.

He does not.

This place is not a healing place.

This is a corrupted place.

This place isn't going to stay that way.

[man] I call him "Dad" or "Father John."

"Can I ask you a question?"

"Sure." "Do you trust me with your life?"

I said, "With my life and soul."

[woman] He told us there would be a day

when we'd see the medium getting arrested.

[woman 2] There's nothing of God

about John of God.

I don't tolerate people saying

he is of God.

Mr. João

Are you guilty?

Where was God when I was in that room?

[mysterious music plays]

[theme music plays]

CURE - FAITH - MEDIUM

SPIRITUAL SURGERY

SILENCE

ABADIÂNIA

GOIÁS - BRAZIL

[woman] When I was 22 years old,

I started to have fainting episodes.

And after the second or third time,

I was admitted.

We found out that I had a brain tumor.

I had severe headaches.

It felt like I had a helmet on my head

that kept getting tighter and tighter.

I couldn't see anymore.

I heard my baby crying,

but I couldn't leave the dark room

because I would get a terrible headache.

At that point the doctor told me

I had about 40 days to live

and that my family should take advantage

of that time to say their goodbyes.

I remember my mother-in-law

giving my seven-month baby

to my mom to be raised.

Then my father-in-law came to our house

and told us something he'd heard.

About this medium in Goiás

who performed spiritual surgeries.

"You must have faith," he said.

And then I thought,

"These people are crazy."

"Let me die in peace."

"I want to rest.

I can't take this anymore."

[solemn music plays]

They were suffering

so much with that whole situation,

that they believed

that some healer across the country

would be able to do something for me.

Something that even doctors couldn't do.

So, seeing how desperate he

and my husband were,

I agreed to come.

[guitar music plays]

1990s

HOME OF DON IGNATIUS OF LOYOLA

We arrived here in Goiás on a Wednesday

and he was working early in the morning.

We stayed in the yard

because the Home was too small.

There were a lot of buses

and a lot of people.

We were all together there.

This was around 8:00 a.m.

when the medium, John,

came up to the group

and asked my husband to take me in,

because he had been waiting for me

so he could operate on me and heal me.

SILENCE

My husband picked me up in his arms

and took me inside.

Then my husband told him,

"She can't stand up. She's too weak."

He held me like this,

as if I was on a chair.

He started letting me go

and I stood up against that wall

held by the hand of the entity.

He talked about the tumor,

where it was located.

He explained why the earth doctors

were not able to remove it.

Because If they did, I would die.

Then he grabbed that instrument.

Those long scissors.

The entity, without even looking at me,

put the scissors inside my right nostril.

I couldn't feel the scissors.

Then I heard him say to me,

"Child, count with me."

Holding my head like this,

he rotated the scissors 21 times.

At the end of the 21st rotation,

I felt pressure on this part of my head

and something breaking.

And I could hear in my head

what sounded like a cracking bone.

Then I blacked out.

With the help of two people,

he took me to this room.

He took me to a sink

which was outside the bathroom.

Behind me he put one hand here

and another here

and pulled back this part of my body.

When he did that,

I puked blood in the sink.

There was so much blood

that it got stuck in the sink.

And when the spiritual guide

took it in her hand,

it looked like a steak.

The person who got there on Wednesday,

in her husband's arms, blind,

and the Ângela who got out on Friday

I was walking with no help at all.

[man] Brothers and sisters,

let's raise our thoughts

to the greatest Architect of the Universe.

Our Father

[crowd]

who art in heaven,

hallowed be thy name,

thy kingdom come,

thy will be done

on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread

and forgive us our trespasses

as we forgive those

who trespass against us.

Lead us not into temptation

but deliver us from evil. Amen.

[man 2] The there's John, the man,

the human being,

and there's John, the medium,

who channels the entity.

You can see the difference.

When he channels one of our brethren,

enlightened entities,

he falls asleep and does not see a thing.

This the moment when the spirituality

of Don Ignatius,

Saint John the Baptist, Dr. Augusto

It's the moment when John channels them

and all the divine work takes place.

All rise, here comes Jesus ♪

Weighed down while bearing the cross ♪

He goes from door to door ♪

He goes street by street ♪

He came to save your soul

For it is not to blame ♪

[Wagner] He comes in,

stands before all of us.

He often asks someone to take his hand,

and then he starts praying.

This is when the entity approaches him.

[mysterious music plays]

Some entities were a little stiffer.

Some entities were very talkative.

Send us from your limpid fountain.

Bezerra de Menezes,

André Luiz with your whole phalanx.

My name is Xavier.

I'm Oswaldo Cruz.

[Wagner] Entities are enlightened

and evolved spirits

that come here

to serve people in the name of God.

[man] Hooray, Don Ignatius of Loyola!

[Wagner] And they serve

as an instrument or a tool to our brother,

John of God.

I'd like to read something very quickly

something our dear King Solomon,

the great entity that our medium

has channeled for many years.

The first entity

to be channeled by our medium.

King Solomon.

Once the work was complete,

the entity,

as we normally say, the entity would rise

and he was back to normal.

He was Mr. John again.

He was himself again.

And he had no clue of what had happened.

May God be praised.

[man] Forever and ever.

[Wagner]

This is not a center of Spiritism.

It's a spiritual hospital.

People come here

for cleansing or spiritual treatment.

Don Ignatius, the Home's patron.

"For those who believe it,

words are not necessary."

"For those who don't,

there's no possible word."

Saint Ignatius of Loyola.

This is the main hall.

There's the main entrance.

[guitar music plays]

[man] There are three lines here:

first time, second time, and follow-up.

The first people to be seen

will be the ones with the red token.

Then the green token.

They always follow the same order

to get to the entity.

[Wagner] It's like a medical treatment.

You go to the doctor

and get some medication.

You then take those medicines

or maybe get a surgery in the hospital.

Then you need to follow up.

That's how we work here.

[guitar music continues]

While we are here,

the medium has already channeled

the spirit there,

but the treatment

keeps happening outside as well.

The entities, our enlightened brothers,

are among us doing their job.

So many people got healed outside.

People scheduled

with the entity must arrive on time.

You'll be treated for your infection

in the surgery

or you'll get a scraping.

If that's your case,

please raise your right hand.

You'll follow me quietly this way, okay?

Carry her, please.

This is the infirmary ward.

where people who get sick,

either the ones outside

or those who get the intervention,

are placed in the infirmary room.

[woman] For those who went through surgery

for the first time

at Home of Don Ignatius,

we advise and see as a necessity

for you to be quarantined.

What does that mean?

Sexual abstinence for 40 days.

Because this treatment, this surgery,

if performed through

the energy of your bodies.

Sexual intercourse

releases too much energy.

And this energy

is necessary for the treatment.

[Wagner] When the channeling sessions

were over,

he'd come to this room.

There's a bathroom, an armchair.

It's where he receives

the Home's directors,

some people,

the volunteers, employees.

He also has his meetings in this room.

It's the medium's room.

[piano music plays]

[woman] Ten years ago, I was 30 years old.

I was married. I was a severe workaholic.

I used to spend my days at work.

My family has always been one

of the most important pillars.

In order to understand my story,

we need to talk a little

about this part of my life.

My mom has always been a fortress.

I never saw her get sick.

She always took care of me,

and of my father, and my sister.

Then, in August 2010,

my mom,

for the first time, complained of pain.

We started consulting several doctors.

We went to a specialist,

then on to another and another.

STROMAL TUMOR: 1.3"

Then we heard the word "cancer."

It is a scary word.

The whole situation was disheartening.

We were devastated

when we came back from the doctor.

We were all crying: my dad, Mom, me.

And my sister says,

"I've just attended a lecture

of this holistic therapist, Anna Sharp,

and she mentioned a medium

who performs miracles

in the countryside of Brazil."

Then we ask her,

"Mom, would you like to go there?"

And she answers, "Yes,

I would because I wanna live."

And who doesn't?

The second my mom agreed to go,

we started arranging everything.

You are all welcome

to this enlightened house.

We invite all of you to keep silent

and focus,

because the entities

are already operating in this room.

[Mannelli] I think that the Home

has an atmosphere

that feels like a peaceful place.

Then the volunteers of the Home guide you.

They say some prayers.

They explain how the Home works

and call some people up

to share their testimonials.

So you look at all that

and think to yourself,

"Wow, I can trust this place."

[woman] I suffered from a disease

called subacute lupus erythematosus

and the doctor said,

"You have less than two months."

And I'm being direct

because you're an open-minded person."

I'm very happy to be here today

because I had

a genetic disease in the muscle.

I suffer from multiple sclerosis.

Doctors said I'd be a quadriplegic.

I have a two-year-old son who's here.

Doctors had diagnosed him with cancer.

[man] This is called multiple sclerosis.

It was diagnosed in April.

In February, I got a new result.

Here it is.

No sign of disease.

I'm here to thank, Don Ignatius,

for giving me another chance to walk.

Because the doctors at the hospital

thought I was a hopeless case

with a bone marrow infection.

[man] I can stand up.

[woman] I've known John for 30 years.

I visited every guru

out there in this world.

The number of miracles

that I've actually seen

and can prove that this man has performed

is absolutely amazing.

Amazing things.

I brought in

so many people dying of cancer,

hopeless cases

that he would heal just by touching them.

I'm taking it out.

[interviewer] Your husband cured there?

- Not at John's.

- [interviewer] Not at John's.

He was cured in Antônio de Palmelo.

My husband suffered

a violent heart attack.

Then I asked my husband,

"Would you go see this man,

Antônio de Palmelo?"

He replied, "Anywhere but staying here,

just sitting and taking medicine."

This man operated on 200 people a day.

And things were really crude.

When we got there,

he was dressed as a doctor,

with all the surgical instruments

and it was filthy.

He looked at my husband,

patted his heart, and said,

"You're dead if I don't operate on you."

My husband lied down,

and the man took a circular saw

that was all rusty.

It lasted five minutes

And we walked back to the inn.

Sixteen hours later

[muttering]

- [man] How are you, Billy?

- I'm okay.

I feel good.

No pain at all.

[Sharp] Three months later,

we returned to a doctor

and he said, "That's preposterous!"

"What have you done? You're crazy!"

"Let's run some tests."

He was absolutely embarrassed

when he came back.

He said, "These are two different hearts."

"He had a transplant."

"I have nothing else to say."

[guitar music plays]

[woman] Goiás was a place

of so-called devotional Catholicism.

The old Brazilian Catholicism,

the Baroque type, in which people have

a direct and personal relation

with the saints.

Like, you put Saint Anthony's image

upside down, make your wish, and say,

"I'll put you in the right position

if you make it come true."

This kind of thing.

And Mr. John's family

are feverish Catholics.

As he declares himself a Catholic,

a Saint Rita of Cascia devotee.

And this icon

will bring protection with all its energy.

- It'll cover this house.

- [crowd applauds]

Mr. John's mother was a feverish Catholic,

and apparently she used

to see the Virgin Mary

and practice card-reading.

But his father was an herbalist.

What's an herbalist?

A person who harvests plants

and prepares the so-called garrafada.

Garrafada is natural medicine in a bottle.

That's why I say that this

is part of Brazilian culture.

That's how I see it.

This mix of a great number of traditions,

of healing proceedings,

the freedom to create new ways of,

you know,

connecting with the world.

It's Brazil in its purest state.

["Vale do Juca" by Siba plays]

It was a dance ♪

Almost a mirage ♪

Each gesture, each image ♪

For the spellbound ones ♪

A movement ♪

A strong practice ♪

Outlined, traced, and cut ♪

The curtain was pulled ♪

A seed amid the dust ♪

The ground of the first crop ♪

My grandparents danced ♪

A blow, a rumble, a pop ♪

A multitude and one horse ♪

Playful warriors ♪

It was a celebration

Arriving and departing ♪

Greetings and goodbyes ♪

My grandparents cried ♪

[Machado] You see

that this traditional world still exists.

The witchcraft,

the unbreakable body,

the giving of blessings.

All of these come from this world.

Brazil is the main

Spiritist country in the world.

It's the only place where Spiritism

created roots and became a religion.

- [camera shutter clicks]

- [quiet music plays]

Then the Spiritist societies

started to emerge

with a medium who prescribes,

because of a lack of physicians.

So the mediums channels a spirit

and prescribes medicine.

This is the basis of Spiritism in Brazil.

This is the work

of the Home of Don Ignatius.

Take this medicine.

I'll wait for you in Abadiânia.

You can go.

You don't need this anymore. You can go.

Go. I'll help you.

[Wagner] The only thing

we charge for is the passiflora.

He prescribes a passiflora bottle

that costs 50 reais.

Passiflora is a medicine produced

by the Home,

and it's made with passion fruit.

NO PORK, EGGS, PEPPER, ALCOHOL

Brothers, while in line

waiting to be seen by the entity,

someone says,

"I didn't even talk to them."

"They prescribed me something

and told me to go home."

"I got to the pharmacy,

and that woman was handing

the same box to everyone."

For each case,

there is a specific, spiritual dosage

of that medication.

The person opens it and puts their mind

into the purpose of those pills.

The cure for cancer, the cure for A*DS

Some health problem.

When the person is going

to open the medicine,

when they take the first pill,

they must think of its purpose,

because the energy

is on the tip of their fingers.

When you take the pill,

then it will be ready

for the treatment you asked for.

[John] Some people asked me

to tell them a little bit of my story.

For a time I had no place to live.

João Teixeira's place was a car.

I took the seats off,

put the roots instead,

and drove around the world.

There was a time when this spiritual work

could not happen out in the open.

It had to be done secretly.

And even so, I needed

to bribe authorities to help people there.

The first criminal code of the Republic,

in 1892,

established three articles.

The ill*gal practice of medicine,

very traditional in Brazil

in the 19th century.

There were no doctors.

Faith healing and charlatanism.

So it's very easy.

Anyone who's not accredited

can end up in jail.

John of God used to

go to jail all the time

for charlatanism and faith healing.

Also tooth extractions,

as there weren't any dentists

in the countryside.

He got beat up in the police station,

and at that point

I have the feeling that he starts

to understand that he needs protection.

When John the Medium

wandered through the world,

there was a lawyer

in the city where John the Medium arrived

and he was there to arrest him.

And he got surgery

and became a medium at the Home.

[shuddering]

JUDGE SUBPOENAS HEALER

JOÃO MUST APPEAR

AT THE ANAPOLIS COURT TO EXPLAIN

WHY HE HEALS PEOPLE

WITHOUT A MEDICAL LICENSE.

[Machado] He was persecuted

in every possible way.

He got in trouble.

There are charges from this period,

in which he was pronounced not guilty.

And at this time, from 1976 on,

he starts moving to Abadiânia,

but he really

settles down there in the '80s.

[man] Abadiânia at that time

had a population of about 6,000 people.

MUNICIPAL HALL

The main economic activity

was eminently rural.

When I was mayor of Abadiânia,

I had never heard of John of God.

I didn't know who John the healer was.

One day,

a friend of mine calls me and says, "Braz,

there's this healer

who performs healing activities,

cures diseases, etc."

Then he mentioned that for Abadiânia,

it could promote the hotel

and lodging sector.

He said that a place

that attracts many people,

makes the hotel sector increase a lot.

Then he invited John and myself over.

And we agreed

that John should come to Abadiânia.

- [guitar music plays]

- [horn honks]

[Wagner] Just a few people used to come,

but this number got bigger and bigger.

Imagine a town

that started off by getting 12 tourists,

then it turned to 100,

and then to 5,000.

[guitar music continues]

SPIRITUAL TOUR

We traveled 436 miles

to the Home of Don Ignatius.

Six hundred miles on the road,

but we're here safe and sound.

Thank God, the Home is full of people.

There are 13 buses in total.

They come from all around Brazil.

[guitar music continues]

[Da Silva] Lots of business segments

profited from John's presence,

due to the huge inflow of tourists.

This brought a lot of money.

Taxi drivers, the local stores.

The butcher's shop, for example,

that supplied 660 lbs. of meat

just for one restaurant.

They had to slaughter

almost five oxen a day.

See how it grew economically.

Construction, building those places,

demanded more material.

There were 80-something inns

so this helped increase the land value.

NORBERTO KIST'S HOSTEL

"NOOK OF HARMONY"

[Kist]

Abadiânia is a place that attracts energy.

Those who come here

are either sick or crazy.

And there's many, just like me,

who are both crazy and sick.

[people chanting]

[Kist] I'm nobody,

but the entity said I am important.

My cards read "Norberto Kist."

My nickname was Giggle.

And I worked as a medium.

Please do something for me.

Smile at two people.

At the person to your right

and at the person to your left.

Show them your teeth.

If there's no tooth,

show them your gum, but smile.

May I?

[Kist]

On our first road trips, in three days

we saw more than 20,000 people.

1980s

SANTA CATARINA

And I was their guide on the bus.

When we left here,

it already smelled like ether.

Some surgeries were performed.

We prayed and people said,

"I feel better.

I'm like this. I'm like that."

Got it?

[man] No one who comes here

should expect miracles. No.

There won't be a miracle as we know of it,

Things happen

because we're spirits in debt.

We're on a farm

which is three miles away from Ituiutaba.

The place where

the operations takes place is rustic.

I'll operate here,

then later I'll take you to Abadiânia.

[man] At this place,

the cutting surgeries will be performed.

In this type of work,

faith is really important.

If we have faith,

we can achieve everything.

I'm leaving to Goiás,

but my heart will stay here in this state.

[woman] Our mayor.

All together under

the divine protection and of King Solomon,

I believe that the Home of Don Ignatius

will be built in this state.

All rise, here comes Jesus ♪

Weighed down while bearing the cross ♪

He goes from door to door ♪

He goes street by street ♪

He came to save your soul

For it is not to blame ♪

HOME OF DON IGNATIUS

[quiet guitar music plays]

[woman] In Spiritism,

we always say that you seek it

either out of pain or out of love.

There is no other way.

My search was out of pain.

I come from a Kardecist family

so I was raised in a Spiritist home.

When I was two years old,

my mom used to channel spirits.

And every time I got closer to her

They say children

are more sensitive to it.

I would say,

"Leave my mom alone. Go away!"

So mediumship and spirituality

have always been present in my house.

It wasn't something

I learned later on in life.

When I went to Abadiânia,

my dad had gone to the Home for ten years.

It was part

of my family's everyday conversation.

So I knew about this place through my dad.

My mom went through

several spiritual surgeries at the Home.

and the results were very good.

I never doubted

that the cure really existed,

especially in Abadiânia.

When I went to Abadiânia,

I was looking for my spiritual healing.

I got harassed a lot in my life.

I was frequently harassed at work,

by my bosses, the companies, directors.

I had excellent positions.

I worked in government agencies,

in the House of Representatives.

At some point,

a boss or a manager harassed me,

I refused it, and would lose my job.

The reason I went to Abadiânia

was because of this harassment.

It wasn't something physical,

but psychological and spiritual.

When you first arrive,

they welcome you very well.

Everyone has the same purpose.

The purpose of faith, cure, love.

People of many religions went there.

Buddhists, atheists, everything.

It was an abundant universe,

and that's the universe I believe in.

That's why I went there.

[chattering]

[man singing]

[Araújo]

I remember when I entered the main room,

which is called "the current room."

This spiritual chain made of mediums

normally isn't for people

with a specific treatment.

Open your eyes.

[Araújo] They go there to heal others.

So now I'm using you.

The chain was always very strong.

The main thing is understanding

that you have to give it your all.

Okay?

If you don't, nothing will happen.

Focus. You who are here in the chain

are responsible for this work.

Elevate your thoughts to your protector.

[Machado] The chain experience

is something really deep.

The way Spiritism sees it,

as you galvanize this chain,

you call upon the spirits for healing.

It was really something to behold.

The first time I went there,

I said, "Wow!"

The electricity was almost visible.

The good line, the line of good, of love.

[Sharp] Around 99 percent

of psychics I've researched

were manipulative cons looking for money

or power.

I found very few

of them to be the real deal.

But In every single one of them,

John included,

as much light

and miraculous work there is in them,

there is also darkness.

Our planet is made of opposites,

so they also have a dark side.

Every one of us has a dark side.

When we find the dark side of someone,

their darkness becomes

much more important than their light.

[Mannelli] We arrived

in Abadiânia on a Tuesday

And we went there very early

on the following day

to be seen by the entity,

searching for the much-dreamed-of cure

for my mom.

[woman]

Please, bothers in the first-timers line,

keep waiting.

You will be seen by the entity.

[Mannelli] When it was our turn

to go to the entity's line,

I realized that the medium looked

at the people who were lining up

and, at some point, I felt he saw me.

He looked at me.

He grabbed my forearm with both hands

and stood up.

And that caused me

to be kind of afraid of him.

This may be the best word to define it

because his reaction

scared me a little bit.

And he asked me,

"Child, why are you here?"

Before I could answer him,

before I could even have the time

to say something,

he did it for me.

He said, "You're here

because your mother has cancer."

"Isn't that right?"

It was a real shock to me

and I started to cry.

[gentle piano music plays]

[Mannelli] Right after that,

he looked at me and said,

"You have a strong mediumship in you,

and you can save your mother."

And that was a mix

of joy and surprise and awe

because no one had ever told me that.

I didn't even know it was a possibility.

And then he said,

"The medium wants

to talk to you after this session."

When I got in line,

I was looking forward to my answers.

I wanted to know what he had to say to me.

What I should work on inside me.

So, it was a moment of anxiety.

A lot of anxiety.

And I remember it clearly.

This was very obvious to me

that when I'm standing in line,

I realize he sees me among these people.

I saw he kept a low voice with everyone.

When it was my turn, he raised his voice.

I was scared because he asked me

in a loud voice

what I was doing in that line.

And I said,

"Well, I'm standing in line. Everyone is!"

"So I am here as well."

To which he replied,

"But you're a medium."

"You shouldn't be in line."

"You should be sitting

in the mediums' chairs."

After that morning session,

he told me to go see him in his room.

[mysterious music plays]

[Mannelli] When we came back to São Paulo,

we were really hopeful.

My mom was convinced she was cured.

She had this strong idea in her mind

that the tumor had disappeared.

She said, "It's gone.

I felt something and the tumor is gone."

She did the medical exams again

and the tumor was there.

NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES

Same size, same proportions, same shape.

Then we went to the hospital.

She was admitted in the morning

and went to the surgical center.

An hour and a half later,

the room phone rang.

It was her doctor.

He said, "Andreia,

I don't know what saint you pray to,

but I've just witnessed a miracle."

He used these very words.

"Your mother does not have cancer."

"She has a benign tumor."

"We've repeated the tests three times."

"She does not have cancer."

And everyone said

that the person

who was responsible for transforming

the malignant tumor in my mom

into a benign tumor was John of God.

At that moment,

I couldn't see how serious

all of that was.

I just couldn't because

when you live in ignorance,

there is no suffering.

The pain comes when you understand

what happened to you.

[Araújo] I waited for about two hours,

then it was my turn.

And I was able to go in.

[menacing music plays]

When he looked at me once more,

he stared at me.

He looked me in the eye

He normally doesn't look

at people in the eye.

He does not.

Especially when he's channeling a spirit.

He looked at me and said,

"You've got to cure me."

"Do I have to cure you?" I thought.

"Who am I?" And I told him,

"Who am I? I'm no one."

"Yes, I need your energy."

And that was it.

He unbuttoned his pants.

When I recall it,

I don't know what happened.

But if I say I don't know what happened,

it wouldn't be true.

I know what happened.