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01x02 - Resilience

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Hiding in Plain Sight: Youth Mental Illness". Aired: June 27, 2022.*
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First-person accounts from more than 20 young people, ranging in age from 11 to 27, who live with mental health conditions, as well as parents, teachers, friends, health care providers in their lives, and independent mental health experts.

01x02 - Resilience

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[Wind whistling]







Man: My wife

found us a psychiatrist

who was willing to take us.

The doctor--he meant this

in a kind way--he said,

"Look, I'm gonna be

real with you.

"Your son has

an incurable disease.

"He will never get better.

"He will have to

take medications

"that will make him gain

30, 40, 50 pounds.

"He will be suspect

to diabetes.

"It's unlikely that he will

ever be able to hold a job,

"he'll ever marry, have kids,

"and there's a high chance

that he may have

"an encounter with police

and be arrested.

"May become homeless.

These are serious things.

"And, oh, by the way,

people die 15 years earlier

who have mental illness

than the rest of us."

And I remember

being devastated,

and we left and I was

talking to Kevin,

and when I mentioned

those things to him,

he goes,

"Dad, that guy's crazy."



It's a strange thing

to look back on

and think to myself,

I really didn't care about

anything at that point,

not caring if I wake up.

That moment that

nothing else mattered to me,

that I just threw myself

in front of a moving car?

I felt nothing.

I actually was, like,

really scared.

And I went downstairs crying

and I told my mom what I did,

and then she brought me

to the hospital.

I still had a whole

future that I had planned.

I was planning this suicide

but at the same time,

you know, I was making plans

to, like, go out to the movies

with my friends the next week.

I asked my parents,

"What would happen

if I wasn't here?"

And I think that

got them pretty worried.

My mom having an addiction

herself, I hated her

even though I was emulating

her behavior at the same time.

Vinson: Rock bottom

looks different

for different people.

It's being able to identify

that time or that instant

where what mattered most to them

felt the most threatened.

For some people, that may be

their relationships

with their parents,

it may be their grades, it may

be their sports identity,

it may be their life.

Some people end up

staying at that bottom

for a really long time,

and some people

never get past it.

Woman on video: Mental health is

an issue. It concerns all of us.

Man on video: One in 6

young people experience

a mental health

Woman: million U.S. adults

experience mental illness in

Man on video: disorders

are still common.

Second man on video: of

Americans think there's

a lot of stigma

against people.

Third man on video: Suicide rate

for adolescents ages 10 to 14

has nearly tripled

in the last decade.

Samantha: I really want to live,

and I'm trying

to make the effort

and I want to have a good life,

maybe one, two kids,

not the white picket fence

but something that's livable--

not this--but I want it.

And I just want normal

and mundane and average.

Maybe a trip to

Myrtle Beach every summer.

You know, I don't care.

I just, I'm sick of

crazy, chaotic,

up and downmess.

Narrator: A mental health

crisis can arrive

without warning

or develop over time.

It may be triggered

by nurture or nature,

through lived experience

or genetics, or both.

It often occurs before

the age of 25,

and it can happen to anyone:

a young woman

who self-medicates

and engages in

reckless behavior;

a teenager, who,

despite her happy childhood,

surrenders to addiction;

a Native American

who feels so isolated

she contemplates suicide;

a college art student who slips

into delusional episodes;

a high school freshman whose

childhood hallucinations

intensify after

a series of assaults;

a boy who is plagued

by intrusive thoughts

withdraws into his own world;

a transgender teen who

goes through periods of

profound joylessness

and substance abuse;

and a healthy, everyday kid

who suddenly

experiences what

his friends call

"an emotional heart attack."



Pete: And then the reality hits,

and it's your kid.

It's your kid

who's hearing voices.

And it's your kid

who's screaming

and it's your kid who's crying

and [clears throat]

all of a sudden

you are in a position

where you have to deal with it,

and it's like the difference

between, you know,

watching a w*r movie

or a Vietnam movie

and being in the jungle

having someone sh**t at you.

Narrator: Every year,

millions of kids

drop out of school,

experience homelessness,

or find themselves in jail

because they didn't get

the help they needed.

Help is available--

from a parent, family doctor,

school counselor, or even

a trusted friend.



For many who have suffered

silently, simply reaching out

may be the most

intimidating step of all.

[Thunder]

But the relief can be

as indescribable

as the pain once was.

Justin: It's like

a perfect storm.

It's this powerful,

you know, hurricane.

It gets intense.

It gets intense.

But, you know,

after that storm passes

are some of the most beautiful

sunny days you've ever seen.

You hear the first birds

start chirping,

and you look and the sun

cracks through the clouds.

Everybody kind of just

creeps out of their houses,

see how everything's going.

"You got power?"

"You hungry?"

I see the silver lining in that

and it's a beautiful thing.



Yanerry: It was one year

I was depressed,

and it became two and then

it became 3 and eventually 7.

I kind of felt like

God was punishing me,

but after a while,

I kind of realized

this is just something

that not only I have,

but other people

have it, you know?

While some people

may look at it as crazy,

it's crazy to you

but it's normal to me.

I'm not crazy.



Boy: I came to live here,

like, two or one and a half.

I don't remember anything from

the past of that, but, um

let me think, um

I cannot think right now.

Woman on video: Hey, Gabe.

Woman:

Gabe and Sasha, uh, they had

a pretty tough life,

they really did.



Just, you know, how young

it does actually start.

How in utero,

the baby's even affected.

If there's a lot of,

like, domestic violence

and stuff the mother

goes through,

you know, how that

affects the baby.

When I'm mad on the outside,

I'm mad on the inside.

Teachers say,

"What is wrong with you?"

and then I just start

breaking down like,

"I don't want to talk about it."

Darla on video: Tell Mom

where you're going.

Darla: I was working

with the children.

They had some

developmental delays,

and so, I had been

introduced to the family

and was working

with Gabe

but had no idea

that we would

soon have them

in foster care

and eventually

adopt the children.

When I got really mad,

it was mostly--

mostly I used to scream

and slam my door,

make pictures

fall off the wall.

Man: He would go into a rage

that it was like

an out-of-body

experience for him.

Gabe: I--yeah, just throw

stuff at 'em, hit 'em.

Darla: He hit

other children a lot.

Sasha, you know.

Ray: I would physically

have to hold him down.

And then he would

come back out of the fog

and he would be normal.

You think you can

love it out of them.

That will fix it.

No, it doesn't.

Man: My thing

as a father, I was like,

I gotta fix it.

I mean, I gotta fix

everything,

because what's gonna

happen if I don't fix it?

Dunning: Parents are doing

the best they can,

They just don't

know how sometimes.

When parents bring

a child to me,

they will oftentimes say,

"I want you to fix my kid."

I will say, "How do you know

your child's broken?"

Woman: We had no idea what

we were supposed to do.

We took him to

the emergency room.

And it was terrible.

Even just uttering the words

to the front desk people,

like, you know,

we're here with Maclayn

and he's having thoughts

of ending his life.

They take all of

his clothes off

and they put on

this, um, onesie,

so that they can't

hurt themselves, um,

and it was

hours and hours.

Vinson: Most often,

emergency rooms are not set up

to deal with

mental health problems.

But you have

nowhere else to go.

You're trying to

navigate a system

that isn't quite a system, um,

and that isn't funded

or configured in a way

that provides easy access

for you to get your children

the help that they need.

Maclayn: It was rough

and awkward for me

talking about

that kind of stuff.

Joe: He just begged us,

he wanted to go home.

Mary: Yeah.

Joe: At that time, being there

in that environment

just--just scared him to death.

We're scared to death.

Mary: Are they gonna take him

over to the psychiatric center?

Are they gonna send us home?

If they take him

therewhat is that?

Joe: We can't stay.

Mary: We can't stay.

He's 9.

Joe: So, the on-call doctor

that was coming in

said to Maclayn,

"If you have a plan of

"hurting yourself

at all, in any way,

"we have to

keep you to observe you

just to make sure

you don't."

And I think that's

when it was like

reality crashed on him,

you know, that's when he

turned into a 9-year-old.

He realized, "Oh, my gosh,

I can't stay

without my mom and dad."

Mary: So, we took him home

and they told us,

"Take away all the knives.

watch him very carefully."

And I don't think

we slept for months.

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Amethyst: I think that being

left alone with thoughts

right after a manic episode

can be pretty detrimental.

Among all of the chaos

that I was going through

and all the different emotions

that cycled through so quickly,

I didn't want to accept

that I didn't really have

any control over it.

So, I'd end up blaming myself.

I felt really lost.

But when I accepted that,

OK, I guess I am bipolar,

this is OK,

I had also realized

I'm not alone in this.

There are people

that are living for me

and I have all of my

friends and family

that I'm living for



and I can make a difference

in other people's lives.

Do I have your

permission to read this?

Amethyst: So, yes, I do have

a reason to fight.

"At the young age

of 18,

"I attempted

to take my own life.

"I never felt that my

problems were a priority,

"so I never spoke up.

"Suffering in silence,

I felt

"l was running out

of options

"until one day

something clicked,

"that I would

one day rise above

"the ashes of my depression

and fight it.

"And I am forever humbled,

grateful, and blessed

that I was able to

overcome my demons."

[Cheering and applause]

Vinson: So, at rock bottom,

you have an epiphany.

You can course-correct

and go into this

completely different direction

in your life.

For people who are able

to make that turn,

you have to have

the understanding that

there's a problem

with what you're doing.

But the illness itself

can make it hard for you

to see it clearly.



There were a couple

points where I would

look at myself and think,

"OK, I need to get better,"

but then I don't act on that

trying to get better.

Like, I'd convince myself that

I didn't have a mental illness,

that I was just overthinking

everything and being dumb.

It's like you're

screaming for help,

screaming for attention,

but you can't say straight up,

like, "I need help."

I was in denial

for a good 5 years

that I even had

a mental illness.

It's like a "flat-earther"

not wanting to believe

that the world is round.

Pete: Insight means

that you understand

that you may have

a mental illness

or you're not

thinking clearly.

It's hard to convince someone

who has no insight

that they have

a mental illness.

And so, we have to step in.

Alexis: I didn't really have

anyone to go to

after my suicide attempt.

I tried talking about it,

and my family did try,

but my mom, she was so worried

and scared and confused.

She was like,

"What's wrong with you?

Why would you ever, like,

want to do this?"

I was like, "I was gonna

k*ll myself

and you're asking me

what the heck I'm doing?"

And that was really hard.

Yaadieah: Whenever I called

my mom,

she would just get worried.

I felt bad that I was

worrying her so much.

I just didn't know

what else to do.

My dad knew I was doing

hard drugs.

Now my dad knew that

I was cutting.

But I couldn't talk to my

dad about it, because he was

so busy and tired

and didn't have time for me.

Morgan: When you feel like you

can't even go to your friends

or your parents,

because, yeah, at that age,

how are you ever gonna admit,

"I'm thinking of suicide.

"I can't see past tomorrow.

I want to cut myself"?

Like, how can you

say that out loud

and not feel like someone is

gonna judge you

or even put you

away in [laughs]

put you in that crazy

container, you know?

It's the number-one

reason, perhaps, why they

don't come to see a therapist

or to tell their parents

or to tell their pediatricians

or to tell anyone in their life.

Vinson: There's a way that

you may feel about a situation

being hopeless, as if

something can never change.

But talking to somebody else,

even though it may not fix

all the problems that

you're dealing with,

can still give you

an opportunity to have

a different perspective

that's not shaped

by the illness that is

impacting you.

Maybe if I had someone,

you know,

whose job it was

to care and listen,

maybe things would have

turned out differently.

Davidson: One of the things

that we do wrong,

we wait for the blatant

"Hi, I need help,"

as opposed to the subtle things

that are actually

asking for help.



Samantha: When I started

getting really depressed,

I just felt like

I didn't feel good.

I didn't feel like me.

So, I wrote a note to my mom

and I, like, signed it,

you know, with my name

and I just hid it

under her pillow.

She handled it pretty well,

but she didn't really

know what to do,

and you just don't know

where to go from there.

Joe: For us as parents,

you know, what do you do

when you don't know what to do?

You Google it.

So, we started Googling

all this stuff,

which is--

which is horrible.

Mary: Terrible.

Erick: We don't fully understand

how to support this yet.

There were so many patterns

where we thought

we were helping.

And what we were doing was

really taking away her power.

Every time I try and fix

something for her,

she doesn't have to

fix it for herself.

Lydia: When I was

taking the pills,

afterwards, I definitely felt

a lot of shame.

It comes to a point where it

is definitely so clear that

it's self-medication, but I

couldn't admit that to myself.

So, I would just, like,

lay in bed all day

because I was so

depressed and angry.

So angry.

Alexis: I think the biggest

part is just acknowledging

to yourself that

"My emotions have been

really, really hard

to deal with lately."

And once you acknowledge that,

then you start taking

the steps that you need

in order to,

you know, feel better again.

Once I really started

looking at myself

and, like, looking at

how excessively

I was doing these things,

it wasn't normal.

It's not like this, like--

it's not, like, cute to, like,

be popping pills every day

and, like,

overdose this many times.

Makalynn: I was using

to deal with the symptoms

and the suicidal thoughts

that were popping back up,

and the drugs weren't

helping anymore, so, um,

I--I needed, I--I needed out

but I didn't know how to stop.

Kennedy: What's great about

hitting your bottom is that

you come to the realization

that that game

doesn't work for you anymore,

and if someone is there

who also sees that,

and who sticks with you

well, that's, uh,

that's powerful,

because you're no longer alone,

you know that they know,

and that's called intimacy.

Makalynn: I was 16.

My mom, she texted me.

Word for word,

she said, "Makalynn,

I know something's wrong.

You just have to tell me

so I can get you help."

And I texted her.

I said, "Mom, I'm getting high

and I don't know

what to do about it."

It takes a lot

to get to that point.

4 or 5 years

I was dealing with this,

trying to treat it myself,

trying to make sense

of it myself.

Insel: The delay in

getting help is staggering.

It turns out that

the delay for depression,

for bipolar illness,

is in years.

It's not in weeks or months.

And the reason for that

is often that

people don't understand that

care can be so effective--

that treatments work--and so,

they try to struggle

on their own.

Thompson: When people tell me

they don't have a problem,

I start off, just a smile.

I say, "I know.

We all been there.

I know."

Somehow, I gotta get

a conversation started.

So, I talk about me.

Next thing you know,

we're talking

to each other together.

Now we start comparing

and then pretty soon,

"Yeah, I might have a problem,

you know."

"Yeah, I might have one,

too, you know.

We just have one together."

That's when we come in

to work with them

to let them know

that they can be helped.

I kept telling my mother

I wanted to see a therapist,

and then it's

finding a therapist,

then it's finding a therapist

that takes your insurance.

We were told that

if we, um,

went to the emergency room,

that you would have

a faster response time

in seeing a psychiatrist.

Um, but it took us

4 months.

We were calling doctors,

we were calling nurses,

we were trying to find someone

to tell us what to do.

You've got problems of access,

the quality of care

isn't what it should be,

the cost is--is insurmountable.

I mean, there's just

this whole range

of--of difficulties.

Most of the people

who will benefit

from being in mental health care

are not actually in

the health care system

that we have.

I don't think that would

be true for cancer,

heart disease,

arthritis, or asthma.

Pete: Can you imagine

if you had a heart attack

and were told,

"Well, we gotta wait

until you're a little sicker"?

We do not have a system

that identifies

people's problems early on,

nor do we make it easy

for a person to get into

a mental health care system.

Woman: He started

asking questions.

Did I talk faster than usual?

Did I have any problems

in concentrating?

Had I had any visions

or heard sounds or voices

that other people probably

hadn't seen or heard?

I was on the receiving end

of a very thorough

psychiatric history

and examination.

The questions were familiar.

I had asked them of others

100 times.

I now found it unnerving

to have to answer them.

Dr. Kay Jamison.



Xavier: They gave me, like,

this weird, like, testing.

I just had to answer questions,

how I felt about things.

I got diagnosed

with depression.

Ooh, yeah, funny.

Also, when they found out

that I was hyperactive,

that's kind of lame.

No, I'm not. [Laughs]

I say as I'm playin'

around with this--

is this a flashlight?

The only way for anyone to know

whether they have

an illness is,

are their abilities being

compromised by that illness?

Yeah, for sure,

anxiety played a role

in--in my grades dropping.

Are they

disabled in some way?

It physically pains me.

It feels so real.

Are they being kept from doing

what they would like to do?

I would go to school

and hate my life at school,

and then I would leave school

and, like,

hate my life going home.

Are they doing things

that they would not like

to have done?

I felt bad because I was

stealing my dad's medication,

my friends' medication, like,

I wasn't being a good friend.

Kennedy: These are questions

that, frankly,

people can often

answer for themselves

as easily as they could have

a psychiatrist or doctor,

uh, answer for them.

Vinson: You come to

a diagnosis by

asking a lot of questions,

making a lot of observations,

gaining people's trust

over time,

and also by being open

to the fact that

your first thought

about diagnosis may be wrong

and that it's an ongoing

assessment, uh, process.



Narrator: Mental illness is

as old as civilization itself,

and humans have always

struggled to find ways

to understand and explain it.



Almost 2,000 years ago,

a Greek physician named

Rufus of Ephesus

identified different forms

of melancholy

based on symptoms, such as

desire to isolate, mood swings,

and eating disorders.

In the Bhagavad Gita,

the sacred book of Hinduism,

the human mind is described as

a literal b*ttlefield.

In 1621, the British

philosopher Robert Burton

published the 1,000-page book

"Anatomy of Melancholy,"

in which he identified

the symptoms of depression,

mania, and phobia.



In 1952, in an attempt

to categorize and classify

mental illnesses,

the American

Psychiatric Association

published an official glossary

of mental disorders

for clinical use

called the Diagnostic

and Statistical Manual.

That first edition had

more than 100 diagnoses.

Today's DSM-5

lists hundreds more.

One of the first things

that my mom did

was to get me properly

diagnosed, um, with bipolar.

My brother, he's also bipolar.

My mother thought

I was bipolar at one point,

knowing that my cousin was.

I had an uncle that

had schizophrenia.

I grew up hearing stories

about him.

Yanerry: I kept my

hallucinations inside

for 10 years.

The first person I told was

a doctor because I felt like

a doctor would really

understand my symptoms

compared to

my family and friends.

He told me, "You're a high-

functioning schizophrenic.

And you have this

because of genetics."

And it's not just me

that goes through this.

I finally spoke to

my sister about it,

and she told me, "Hey,

I'm having those, too,"

like, "Hey, I'm seeing

shadows, too!"

I also found out that

a few of my cousins

and an aunt of mine

has schizophrenia.

Vinson: In thinking about

nature versus nurture,

what we've come

to understand, um,

is that it's not

an either/or at all.

It is "both, and."

What happens to you

as you're developing

during your early years

is going to

interplay with

those vulnerabilities

that you may have come

into the world with.

Angel: I recently got diagnosed

by my psychiatrist

with PTSD

from my past experiences.

I was diagnosed

with agoraphobia,

severe social anxiety,

generalized anxiety disorder,

and depression.

Part of me had thought

that it was

maybe just linked to

me being trans

and not being comfortable

in my body.

But I was diagnosed with

anorexia nervosa

and anxiety and depression.

Lydia: My first psychiatrist

just diagnosed me

with depression.

It didn't help me

explain to myself

why I was such a binge drinker,

a binge user,

and why I couldn't

control myself

when it came to

specific things.

Bipolar is a label

that was given to me

by psychiatrists.

Said schizoaffective,

some said bipolar,

some said major depression.

Ava: I was diagnosed

with depression.

And then a month ago,

they said I might have had,

like, bipolar disease

or something, so,

I don't know what

I actually have.

Dunning: Over time,

I will learn about you.

I've only met you for

60 minutes, 90 minutes,

whatever it may be.

So, we need to

work together so that

you have an accurate diagnosis.

One of the things

that, um, we know

leads to doctors getting

diagnoses wrong

is when they prematurely decide

they know what it is.

Julie: When I was age of 13,

they said it was depression.



I was pretty--

pretty freaked out.

Pretty freaked out.

But it was also kind of like a

relief, too, at the same time.

You feel very confused

and you feel very lost

and you're not very sure

what's wrong,

and then you get an answer and

it's kind of really comforting.

Makalynn: When I was, like,

17 years old,

the doctor's like,

"You have bipolar disorder."

And describing the symptoms,

I was like, "OK,

that checks off," you know,

"I can check that box,

I can check that box,

this is me."

It's not a relief to know that

it's something that you're

gonna have to deal with

for the rest of your life,

but it's a relief to finally

make sense of it.

Some people, uh,

do derive some kind of solace

from saying,

"I can put a name on this.

"I can call this depression.

I can call this PTSD."

And I think there's value

in having those labels.

There's also a risk,

and the risk is thinking that

those labels explain something.

Someone once said to me

that if you tell me

that a person

has schizophrenia,

you've told me 5% of what

I want to know

about that person.

To just kind of

be reduced to nothing but,

you know, the two words

"bipolar disorder," and people

not understanding that

I'm a whole person.

I just sometimes

suffer from symptoms

of this mental illness.

Some people don't

want to have a label.

I don't like labels either,

but for our health care system

right now, I need to name it in

in some way so that it can be

paid for by

the insurance company.

Vinson: Diagnoses are helpful,

but it's important to point out

that they're not

the whole picture.

People's experiences

are all different.

You can have the same

diagnosis but have

really different

treatment plans,

really different medications

that you draw from

in order to

move in a different direction.

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They're to help manage you.

They're not a cure-all.

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Samantha: Medications are

a resource and a tool you use

to help better manage

your mental health.

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Amethyst: People like me

who have bipolar,

there's just

something inherently different

in their brain chemistry.

We do need medication because

it's way more intense

than just hormonal rage.

Insel: We have lots of

medications to choose from.

I think we have about 30

medicines for depression,

perhaps 20 for psychosis.

There is something like

7 or 8 mood stabilizers

for people with

bipolar illness.

Probably 4, 5, 6 medications

for attention deficit

hyperactivity.

So, that's quite a formulary,

and a lot of things

to choose from.

Maclayn: I do take medication,

and it's for anxiety,

I believe, and I feel

like that helps a lot.

Leah: "Let's try Zoloft."

That was the money

ticket right there.

That actually helped

me significantly.

I've never taken any before,

but I feel like

I put myself into that stigma

around taking medication--

"You take your meds today?"

Like, kids used to say that.

It doesn't mean you're bad,

it just means that

your brain needs a little

help sometimes, and that's OK.

Insel: They're powerful,

sometimes they're lifesavers,

and then there are many people

who don't seem to benefit.

We don't quite understand

why that is,

and we're left to

doing this empirically.

Trial and error.

I do take medication

for my anxiety and depression.

I take Lexapro, and, like,

since I've been taking it,

I feel huge.

Lexapro did nothing for me,

so, I was still just as

depressed and stuck

and hopeless.

Cymbalta is the one that's,

like, making my mood better

and actually gives me energy,

but I still get panic attacks.

I am on a medication for

depression, and I don't really

know if it's

helping me or not.

For some reason,

it doesn't help me

at night at all.

I usually just sit there

all night, and I'm just like

just tap, that's all I do.

They put me on a

antidepressant, which I think

may have started making

things a little bit worse.

Gabe: That pill in

the morning, like, I just

sit there, go



like, everybody

used to tease me

when I had that pill at school.

The psychiatrist would

say, "OK, let's try this,

"this, and this, see how

it goes for a couple weeks.

If it doesn't work,

let me know."

Let's try another one.

And it has to match

with your other meds

that you're already taking,

so, it's complicated.

It was up to us

to figure out

whether it was

working or not.

These are

complicated disorders.

None of the medicines

we have are curative.

None of them are

perfectly matched

to the problem at hand.

All of them have side effects.

Samantha: I told

my doctors about

how it was making me

feel suicidal,

and they said,

"You just gotta wait."



Anytime I could have

k*lled myself

and nobody would have known.

When I stopped taking

the meds, I stopped

feeling suicidal.

Dunning: We may have to try

another one, or another one,

so, to keep people in the game,

to keep people positive,

to keep people focused on

the outcome of something

that they really were ambivalent

about in the first place

is a challenge.

Makalynn: It was about

a year and a half of trying

11 different medications,

and it was

wreaking havoc on everything

in my life.

So, there was one point where

I just said, "No medication."

But I started

using drugs again.

I know now that

it is not an option.

No. I need to be medicated.

God, that sentence sounds

"I need to be medicated."

I--I--I know now that

medication is necessary.

I was born with

a chemical imbalance.

We take antibiotics

whenever we have a flu

or a strep throat.

I have to take

antipsychotic medication

because that is what helps me.



Vinson: We do the best we can

based on what we have, right?

It's always a matter of

what's the benefit

that they're getting out of it,

and what are the side effects,

and which matters more?

And that is going to

be different

for different patients.

Morgan: As a 15-year-old,

I was on medications

that they would put

grown men on.

Andno, I was a zombie.

I was a zombie.

Any sort of desire

you have for anything

can be k*lled by

some of these meds.

You're kind of a shell of

the person that you were.

You look like a stereotypical

person with mental illness.

Pete: He did continue

to take the medication

and after a couple weeks,

he got better.

And then, of course,

he stopped taking it.



And then he started

becoming delusional again.

Kevin had been walking around

the streets for 5 days.

He'd barely slept.

And I said, "Kevin, I will

pay you $50 a week

if you take your pills."

And he looked at me

and [chuckles],

he says, "Dad, I'm

not a prost*tute."

So, then I tried duplicity.

Kevin: My father

crushed up some meds

and put them in my cereal.

Pete: He looked at that,

and he said,

"You're trying to poison me."

Kevin: I was very angry

with him after that happened.

But suddenly I found

myself hospitalized.

I remember waking up

and being in the psych ward

and being like,

"What am I doing here?"



Pete: We'd end up in

the hospital, and he kept

doing this over and over

and over.

And this is what people say,

"Oh, wait until they hit

rock bottom."

Well, what is that?

Homeless? Is it dead?

Or imprisoned?



Morgan: With my medications,

I was like, "Mom,

I'm not doing this anymore."

I took myself

off of them, cold.

I don't think it's a fix or

the answer to everything.

Each of our brains

is wired differently.

Sometimes they're just so

quick to write you a script.

And that's why I kind

of stopped going

to psychiatrists.

Vinson: People are often

surprised when they talk to me

as a psychiatrist because

I think medicine is helpful

but it's certainly

not the whole answer.

It's not just about having

the symptoms go away,

it's about is this person

engaging in

meaningful relationships?

Insel: It requires work.

It requires learning.

Learning a set of skills

to help you do things

that you're currently

not doing.

It requires therapy.





Man: There's an awful lot

of hate in the boy.

Hate that's spreading

over into his feelings

about everyone.

Woman: Well, he's

up against a lot at home.

That's just what I want

to hear more about.

Alexis: So, when I went

to therapy,

I expected, you know,

like, you know, like

the bed that they lay on,

the bed chair, you know,

you're just laying up there

and they ask you,

you know, "How does that feel?"

I didn't know how to talk.

So, she leaves

and she comes back

with beads and, like,

string and stuff,

and she's like, "OK, so,

just make a bracelet."

So, as I'm making the bracelet,

she's, like,

asking me questions.

I was actually talking,

and I didn't even notice it.

She figured that out for me.

After my parents

got divorced in third grade,

we started going

to a counselor.

And that really helped me

get all, like,

the stuff off my chest

I'd been wanting to say.

I think I don't

actually give my therapist

enough credit to how much

she actually helps me.

Insel: We have therapies.

We have rehabilitative help.

But the reality is it's not

that easy to find a specialist

to get help with

a mental illness,

even a serious mental illness.

There's so many things about

mental health care today

which are

fundamentally embarrassing

for us as a nation.



Maclayn: The counselors

I had before, I felt like

they didn't really understand

what was going on,

and they didn't really

show much interest,

and that kind of made me

even more upset.

Ava: They always ask the same

questions, and I feel like

it's just not helping me.

Just wasting my time.

It seems like she

didn't really acknowledge

anything that I said, so,

it was a bit invalidating.

Gabe: Horrifying.

It was horrifying.

I was like, "Should I

be saying all this?"

"Yeah, no."

"Yeah, no.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no."

Just confusing.

They would give me,

like, a sheet, um,

that I would, like, bubble in

of how I was feeling,

but it kind of felt like I was

talking to a piece of paper

and not an actual therapist.

Justin: I had a doctor tell me

that I'd never work again,

that I'd never live a fully

functional life,

and that I was gonna have this

disease for the rest of my life.

And I had just met him

within 10 minutes.

Vinson: Mental health problems

require a certain

relationship that

may not be present.

If I am asleep

on an operating table

and the anesthesiologist has

a hard time relating to me,

it doesn't really matter--I'm

asleep on an operating table.

If I'm in a room with somebody

and I'm supposed to tell them

the most difficult thing

that's ever happened to me

in my life,

the relationship matters

in a different kind of way.

Pete: You know, of my son's

7 psychiatrists,

only two have bothered

to learn anything

but his name and his diagnosis.

So, we lined up a therapist,

supposedly the best therapist

in Northern Virginia

dealing with young men.

And my son took his chair

and he turned it around

and wouldn't talk to him.

So, after 3 sessions,

the guy says, "Look,

he's not gonna do anything,

I'm not gonna help him."

Xavier: First time

getting into a therapist

is kinda awkward.

Just weird.

You don't know them

and you're, like,

gonna talk to them about, like,

why you're sad.

He saw her for

a couple of months, said,

"This isn't for me."

Amira: He didn't want

anything to do with it.

Like, he just wanted to be

left to his own devices

and to just be able to be mad.

Vinson: People sometimes

are hesitant to talk about

their mental health concerns,

especially if you've had

adults or even kids who

respond to you in a way that

isn't supportive when

you've tried before.

Samantha: You gotta

find that right fit.

Sometimes they just suck for

you, and that's OK, you know?

Not every therapist

is gonna be the one.

Dunning:

Children and adolescents,

I will say to them, "I know

"that this is not even remotely

"on your top 10 places that

you want to be right now.

"Over time,

I will learn about you.

"I have only met you for

60 minutes, 90 minutes,

"whatever it may be.

"So, we need to work together

"because I know

that will help you.

I know it will."

That's hurting

his feelings,

and that's that

power, right?

Samantha: It was just talking

and trying to figure out

what exactly was wrong.

It was kinda like you put

pieces together of a puzzle

that we didn't really

know where to start.



And it was a process,

but it felt good to finally,

like, put things together.

Yanerry: When I met

my current therapist,

she told me she had

the symptoms that I had.

It felt so comfortable to

speak to someone who actually

can see the things you see.

She actually listens

and gives me methods of ways

to deal with my symptoms.

Now I kind of just see it

as my normal

compared to

other people's normals.

Isabel: It was two years ago

that he voiced

needing help again

and, uh, I went back

and found him a therapist.

It changes over time,

slowly as you just get to,

like, know more of

their personality

and just how they do things

and, you know,

slowly it's like, you get

comfortable enough

and then just talk easier.

Dunning: There's just so much

life and love in having that

one person that's forever

in your corner that'll just

literally love on you.

It's just so joyful.

I say everyone should

be in therapy.

Alexis: My parents would go

to therapy with me, actually.

I was talking to my dad,

and I was telling him,

I was like, "Dad,

I just don't know

how to communicate and stuff."

He told me,

"I had a lot of emotions

that I didn't know

how to deal with, either."

He said, "When you're feeling

those overwhelming emotions,

"just go outside.

"Go on the trail.

"Go talk to the horses

if you need to,

"cause they're not

gonna judge you.

"If you want to cry so loud,

you could sit in the trees

and you can do that."

And that's what I did.



We believe that

all things are living,

everything has a spirit,

everything has a teaching.

You could learn a lot

from nature for sure.

[Bird cawing]

Samantha: I was probably 14

or 15 when I went into

the crisis center

for the first time.

I just went in not willing

to work on myself.

I told them what

they wanted to hear.

I just got a break for

9 days from reality,

from the universe.



When I went in

for the second time,

I was ready to put the work in.

I got a therapist, I saw her

all the time, twice a week,

and then I saw my

psychiatrist, my med doc,

probably twice a week.

Now for over the past year, I've

been in consistent therapy,

and I feel so good.

So good.



Vinson: When you have some

cases that are more severe,

we think about

higher levels of care

to meet their level of symptoms

and their level of distress,

and that requires more intense

levels of intervention.

Ray: The blow-ups, the rages

kept happening more and more.

Mental support was

not enough for Gabe

here in our small community.

He needed a more

intense therapy.

And that's how

he ended up

at the therapeutic

centers that

he went to.

When I was going to this

mental hospital place,

I was like, "No, please

don't do this to me!"

Ray: Oof.

Darla: Was it hard. I mean

I couldn't even

talk about it

for probably

the first 3 months

without breaking down.

Yeah.

I mean, you just feel

like you lost your child,

that you--

Yeah, you sign

some papers,

and the hard part's

driving out of

the parking lot.

The ride home the first

time was horrible.

Gabe: First day, I got there

and got in a hold.

The hold is, like, when,

if you hit a staff or a kid,

they run up towards you

and wrap your hands.

Like, literally hold

you like this,

and they lay you down

and hold your feet

so you can't kick them,

and you just sit there

till you're calm.

This staff member held me

as tight as he could,

and I'm like, "Brah, chill."

Vinson: Inpatient psychiatry or

inpatient mental health

treatment

is given with

the idea that you're going to

help somebody get better

or, at the very least,

keep them safe

during a time when

there are reasons to be

really concerned about

their safety.

Darla: The facility

Gabe had went to,

the residential care,

they pretty much

took him back

to being an infant.

Feeding him, holding him,

rocking him,

carrying him around

in a backpack.

You know, and he was

9 years old.

But it really helped to

take him back, you know.

Gabe: I was like,

"I cannot do this anymore.

"This place is horrible.

I better get through this."

Ray: The therapeutic center

was 400 miles from here,

so, every other weekend,

we drove 800 miles.

We'd leave Friday afternoon

and we'd come home

Sunday night,

so, he knew that

we didn't abandon him.

Gabe: My mom and dad

used to hide notes

everywhere in my room,

and I'm like,

"These make me sad.

You shouldn't do this anymore,"

and that's exactly what

I said to them.

And they were like, "Just trying

to make you feel better."

Vinson: By its nature,

inpatient mental health

treatment

is very disruptive.

It takes you out of school,

it separates you

from your family,

it makes you sleep

in this strange bed,

and it can undermine some

things that are very basic,

like connection and autonomy,

while trying to keep

people safe.

[Door lock clicks]

Morgan: I thought after

I woke up from my overdose

that I could just go back home.

No.

I was sent away

to an inpatient

children's mental hospital,

psychiatric unit.

It felt strange being there,

knowing that you're

out of school

and in an actual hospital.

So, I begged my mom

to take me out of there.

One of the girls was like,

"You don't look

like you should be here,

you don't look like

you're depressed."

And that always

stuck with me because, like,

what do my looks have to do with

anything like how I'm feeling?

Yanerry: The first time

I went to the psych ward,

I was there to prevent

a suicide attempt.

It's kind of just like

the room you stay in

and you see a psychiatrist

and if you say you're feeling

sad, you stay another week.



Lydia: It was October of 2018,

and I overdosed on Xanax

in school.

My parents told me,

"You're gonna be sent

to a residential facility

for 30 days,"

and I threw a fit.

I was, like, punching walls,

I was screaming and crying,

and then I was like, "I'm gonna

fake it till I make it."

I finally ended up, um

in a kind of desperation.

Nothing was working.

It seemed like

she was getting worse.

Lydia: From that residential,

I got "gooned,"

which is picked up

in the middle of the night,

and I got sent straight to

the wilderness.



It's like a paid,

legal kidnapping.

It's--it's--[laughs]

it's terrible!

We had to hike

almost every day

with, like,

our huge packs on.

We slept on sleeping bags

on a tarp on the ground

under a plastic tarp.



I was in the wilderness

for, like, 3, 4 months.

[Laughter, crying]



Hi, sweetheart.

Erick: When she came out

of the wilderness,

she was radiant.

I think she had started

to do that work

of being OK in herself.

It was incredible to see.

I mean,

really, she came out

of the wilderness



[Sniffles]

Wasn't even the old Lydia.

It was like this new Lydia.

And I felt it.



Lydia: But right as I got back

into New York City,

I slipped right back into

the same old habits.

Kennedy: You pay attention

for a short period of time,

you think you're better,

you forget that this is

a chronic illness and that

you're never out of the woods.

Your only chance of staying

out of the woods

is to pay attention to this

and treat it kind of

one day at a time

in an ongoing way throughout

the rest of your life.



Justin: They hospitalized me

and they started

giving me medication.

The doctor comes in, they give

me my pill, "How do you feel?"

"Well, people are out to

k*ll me, al-Qaida, the mafia."

I mean, you name it.

This goes on every day,

and all I know is that people

are leaving that

came in after me.

So, one day, I just lied.

I said, "Hey, man,

I feel great!"

They discharged me with a

month's supply of medication.

It wasn't until my

23rd birthday that I thought,

"You know, I feel OK.

Why do I have to

take these meds anymore?"

Makalynn: I was admitted to

a dual diagnosis facility

for adolescents.

They specialized in

mental health treatment

and substance abuse disorders.

I think it's very uncommon

to find somebody who has

just one form

of mental illness,

so I was lucky enough to have

substance use disorder

and bipolar disorder

at the same time.

Complete sarcasm there.

[Slide projector advancing]

But I think that I had

bipolar disorder first,

and then that

turned into using the drugs

to cover up the symptoms

of the bipolar disorder.

It was just, I mean,

a--a vicious--a vicious cycle.

The fact that addiction

is a mental illness

Hello! News flash!

You can't really

distinguish between the two.



Lydia: Addiction is a disease.

It's not something

that you can control.

You can't choose to be

an addict, you can't choose

not to be an addict, it just--

it's in your genes.

Each time she would

come out of these--

these places

what next?

And then she falls down,

goes backwards,

it's all

the more painful.

And, that said,

of course she falls down.

Breaking out of

the cycle of addiction

I think it's one of the most

challenging things

anyone can ever do.

Lydia: I graduated

The Wilderness,

and then--ha ha!

I, um, relapsed.

I overdosed on Adderall,

and now I'm here.

[Slide projector advancing]

I had been, like,

thinking about,

"Oh, I need to change

this time,

"and this time

needs to be different.

What am I gonna do?

What am I gonna do?"

As a part of therapy, we do yoga

2 or 3 times a week.



I thought the sound bath

was kind of cultish and weird

and just, like, creepy.

[Reverberating tone]

But when I let all

my expectations go,

I could really enjoy it

and just relax

[Reverberating tone]

and not focus

on the outside world.

[High-pitched tone]

[Light, tinkling tones]

I've heard of my friends who

have been in lockdown facilities

where it

just sounds miserable.

[Loud reverberating tone]

Morgan: When I was in my

freshman year of college,

I overdosed again and went to

a really scary one.

It kind of reminded me

of jail.

It was actually terrifying.

I was completely

institutionalized.

I was put into

a box, basically.

Our only real requirement

was to show up

for 3 meals a day.

That place got me away

from the drugs,

but, it was--

it was damaging.

Morgan: I just remember white,

a lot of white walls.

It was very

[Heavy door opens,

then closes]

So we'll have DBT skills

or recovery skills

or adventure therapy,

equine.

It depends on the day.

It's kind of amazing.

I never expected to feel better

by opening up to an animal.

So I just think, like, taking

chances and opening up

to people who you don't expect

will really help you

is a big takeaway

from equine.

I think that this place is

more effective because

there are little things

to look forward to.

[Loud reverberating tone]

Makalynn: We basically were

given some construction paper

and coloring pencils and a TV.

We would just color all day

and watch movies.

And it was terrible.

Yanerry: We couldn't even

watch cartoons.

It felt like I was

losing my mind in there.

[Lydia laughing]

Lydia: It does look

like a rich kid's facility!

But just because it's

fancy-schmancy

doesn't mean that, um

you have to be rich

to come here, you know?

Everybody from here comes

from different backgrounds.

My parents?

We just all talk to

each other openly.



Makalynn: I was living in

a house with 13 other girls,

ages 12 to 17 years old,

so talking about, like, puberty

and emotions running,

and then you've got, you know,

add detoxing from drugs

on top of that.

Group therapy would turn into,

you know,

who was fighting

with who that week.

I was the

only teenager there.

Everyone looked at me as, like,

a little kid.

It's like, "What are you

doing here?"

Morgan: They had older kids,

14-, 15-year-olds

with 6-year-olds.

You can't get proper

care with that.



Erick: She's been now to

6 of these centers.

And when a 15-year-old

spends 320 days in rehab,

there's no part of me that

thinks it's gonna be easy.

And the truth is, nobody

recovers until they own it,

and it has to be yours.

Lydia: You have

to trust yourself,

trust that the process has taken

you as far as it's going to,

and your next step is

to be on the outs.

Ahh!

Work on yourself

in a community.

This is just one

part in my story.

It's not gonna stop the rest of

my life from happening.

It's actually giving me life,

because I'm still alive

because of this place!

I want to f*cking live.

I love being alive, dude!

Girl: Bye!

Lydia: I love living.



Gabe: When I finally got home,

it felt like I was

adopted again!

Yeah, I was like,

"I can start over."

And then, like, a year later,

I'm, like, back

to the stuff I was.

Did the same exact thing,

said the same exact things.

Ray: We realized that

he needed more help.

Dunning: She'll

tell you to quit.

No, like, she tells me to

shut up or something,

and then I just

look at the TV,

what Dad's watching,

and I--

Dunning:

You are being told no.

Gabe: Kee is my therapist.

No.

Because I got mad at--

We talk about anything.

All right,

but you didn't--

Dunning: When kids

come to see me,

most often, they are mad,

because they will say,

"That's my mom,"

or, "That's my dad."

"They wanted me to come.

Why don't you see them?

‘Cause they're really the

ones that have the problem."

I say to that, "Absolutely,

I bet you they do.

"So why don't you kind of just

tell me how I can help you

"get to them, and then we'll all

convene, and we'll see

how we can work

some things out?"

Over the course

of the

Darla: Family therapy,

we will have that

with Kee every

once in a while.

When we do a family one,

it's pretty interesting

because it's--

It's--it's brutal.

It's--yeah, but we

did see things

through the kids' eyes.

Dunning: Family therapy

is crucial.

The power of that in holding

the mother or the father

accountable to the same

rules that you would

to the patient is profound.

Everyone has a piece

in the puzzle.

The other therapists

that we seen, uh,

it wasn't that

they didn't care.

It's justthey didn't

have the expertise.

Family therapy is

man, it's--it's hard to

get, actually.

In an ideal world,

we would have many more kids

in family therapy than

we have in individual therapy.

[Slide projector advancing]

Dunning: His biological mom,

she came into our session.

That was one of the things

that changed his life forever,

being empowered to say to your

biological mother and to ask her

why she hurt you in

the way that she did,

to have that opportunity in

a safe place, safe place,

in which to do that,

to find your words.

Gabe: She's good at

changing families' life.

My family life was like that,

and now it's like that.

[Slide projector advances]

Leah: We had a family therapy

session with my mother

and it was me,

my sister, and her,

and I had to tell her, you know,

I--I hated you.

I hated your guts.

And there were so many times

that I wished that you were dead

instead of

continuing to hurt me.

All the years and years and

years of built-up frustration

towards, you know,

the situation that she put me

and my family through, and it

all kind of came out at that

family therapy session.

And that was the first step

towards me forgiving her.

Are you crying?

Don't cry.

Of course.

I love you.

Julie: My relationship with

my daughter now versus then

is so amazing.

My relationship with

life itself now

is so amazing,

you know.

[Match strikes]



[Man singing in Ojibwe]



Alexis: I think it's so hard to

find an indigenous person

that hasn't dealt

with mental illness

or some sort of abuse.



That's within my DNA.

I wasn't taught my Ojibwe

language because it was

literally beaten out of

my great-grandparents.

The things my ancestors went

through, it's shown through

alcohol abuse, addictions,

non-stable families,

toxic relationships.

It's everywhere.



That's the burden that

indigenous youth deal with

every day.

You're just born into it.

Birthright.



Makalynn: There is

a deeper stigma

for people with mental illness

who are minorities,

so they don't talk about it.

In society, we're already the

underdog, so to add another tier

of something that could

be viewed as a weakness

would just further complicate

life in general.

Girl:

Turn all around ♪

Vinson: There's a way that

things that are woven

into society become

background noise,

and so we pay attention to them

in the same way.

When we have things like

inequity and racism

and gender discrimination

and all of these things,

it's such a part

of how we're taught,

of how

things are framed to us,

of the language that is used.

We don't recognize it

because it's just part of

how we operate.

If one of my friends was, like,

really anxious and she was,

you know, upset and, like,

yelling at people or whatever

for her anxiety, people would

say, "Oh, like, she's having

an anxiety attack, that's

why she's doing that."

Whereas, if I experience

the same behaviors,

it would be, like,

"Oh, she's an angry Black girl.

She's just doing what

Black people do."

Makalynn: Whenever the person

of discussion has mental illness

and they are white,

we definitely focus on that

individual and what they have

gone through in life

that could attribute to that.

Vinson: People who are Black who

have a mental health problem,

there's a way that

it can be minimized, just like

you as a person are minimized.

It can be, um, met

with, uh

"othering" just as you

as a person

are met with "othering."

Yaadieah: I have to sort of

tone down my mental illness

not to make my

community look bad.

And I just feel like many

times Black people don't get

to be mentally ill because

just--their behaviors

are so picked apart.

So when you're Black,

the range of emotions

that you're allowed to

have in society are smaller.

The room for error you have

in society is narrower,

And so the range of

emotional expression

that other people enjoy,

you can't without things like

"angry Black woman"

or "angry Black man"

being sort of brought up.

You kept saying

"It's boy time."

Dunning: What

in our own thinking

would give us permission

to think for one second

that because we are brown,

because we're Black,

because we're Native,

or whatever, that we would

not still have

the same challenges?

Some people look

at Hispanics as, like,

loud and crazy

and full of drama,

and that kind of affected

my mental health a lot.

Dunning: In my practice,

Native Americans

in our community,

they're struggling,

and I will ask them,

"What don't I know?"

Alexis: A lot of kids

on the res,

they want to be indigenous,

they want to be Ojibwe, but then

you go somewhere else,

and it's like

completely frowned upon.

That's tough as a teen.

There's a lot of stigma,

there's a lot of stereotypes

against us.

You're just coming into life

and everyone's like,

"Yeah, you have to deal with

alcoholism, drug abuse,

poverty, the worst

of the worst."

When you tell a kid that,

how do you expect them to

succeed on a reservation

where you're not meant to

succeed at all?

It's exhausting. It really is.

It's exhausting.

Yaadieah: I just want to open

up the conversation more.

It's not just a disease for

rich, blonde, white girls.

It doesn't discriminate.

It affects everyone.

[Jail door slams]

Makalynn: I think that there

are far too many other issues

that society likes to focus

on with minorities

to talk about mental illness

at this point in time.

Vinson: The issue of race

and mental health

cannot be disentangled.

So much of what

makes people sick

and so much

of what makes people well

has nothing to do with their

medication or their therapy

or the mental

health care system.

It has to do with where they

live, work, play, learn, grow.

Black trans! Black trans!

Girl: "My eating disorder

cannot be separated

"from my queerness.

"With all these constraints

of what a nonbinary body

"is allowed to look like,

it should come as no surprise

"that trans youth and young

adults have significantly

higher rates of

eating disorders."

Woman: "When I was 19,

I had my first PTSD episode

"when I

experienced psychosis.

"And because I didn't have

language or money,

"receiving q*eer-affirming

mental health was impossible.

"I started drinking to cope

with my symptoms

"and spent 5 years oscillating

between stability

and keeping it together."

Billie: There's a lot of

nonbinary kids

that are depressed.

That's because of

the way that we're treated.

It's not a symptom of being

nonbinary, it's a symptom

of being marginalized

by a society

that doesn't accept us.

Dunning: I have had people

that are afraid

to get medical health care,

let alone mental health care,

because they were

seriously afraid

to go into a doctor's office

and be who they are.

How sad is that?

[Birds chirping]

Maclayn: If people

asked me if I'm g*y,

"Yes, I am."

My parents kind of always

knew and therapy helped me

figure it out.

I told everyone that I was g*y

and if they had any questions,

they--feel free to ask me.

I'm gonna have

an amazing life.

People love me

and care about me.



Mary: You know, coming out

as a--as a g*y child is hard.

You want him to--

to find love.

You want him to live

a happy life.

You want people to

accept him for who he is,

and, you know,

not only is he g*y,

but he also struggles

with mental illness,

which is gonna be a long journey

as well for him.

When I first went into theater,

I told my parents

that I found my people.

I like acting because you can

express, like, your feelings

to other people and you

can make other people

smile and laugh.

[Cheering and applause]

Billie: Being nonbinary,

transgender, g*y, LGBT,

what--whatever you identify as,

it has nothing to do

with mental illness.

Don't be afraid to express

yourself and be who you are.

Because, honestly, not as many

people are looking as you think.

It's scary putting yourself

out there because you're

setting yourself up for others

to judge you,

and that opens you up to

criticism,

but it also opens you up

to love.

Dunning: We all judge,

make no mistake,

You do. I do.

I could be judging

an adolescent, a child,

for something that they are

doing or that they aren't doing

or that they

should be doing.

But what don't I know?

What don't I know

about their life?



Xavier: I actually don't

know anything about

my father's childhood,

but, um, yeah, I do know

he was in a w*r.

His dad had been recently

diagnosed

with post-traumatic

stress disorder.

You know, he served

in Iraqi Freedom.

And that could've possibly

affected the way he is,

or maybe something happened

to him when he was younger

that caused him to hit us

for seemingly no reason.

We all have stuff,

we all have struggles.

You can drive by a house

and it can look pristine

and no one knows what goes on

behind that front door.

But until they open that

door and let you in,

you don't see that

the inside of the door

is destroyed

and that the inside of

that room is a mess.

[Handcuffs click]

Insel: What can happen to people

with a serious mental illness

is that, just like a serious

cancer, it can metastasize.

It turns into disability.

It gets complicated

by substance abuse.

It creates a whole realm of

social problems,

including incarceration

at various times.



Julie: Well, during that 10

years in my active addiction,

I did a lot of petty thefts,

trade goods for crack.

I've had my--my head

cracked open,

I've had g*ns pulled

to my head,

and got caught up in

a criminal justice system.

Leah: I actually got

arrested with her.

[Siren]

Yeah, so

we were both shoplifting,

and I had cocaine

in my purse at the time,

which was really stupid.

Who goes shoplifting

with cocaine?

But, you know,

I was dumb and young

and I didn't--

I wasn't thinking.

If I didn't get arrested,

maybe, you know,

that would be me.

Maybe I would be my mom.

Julie: I wanted to change,

I just didn't know how to do it.

So when I went into that store

to--to steal those two, um

curling irons that

I was gonna steal,

I wanted to get

caught that night.

So when the cops arrested me

and took me in,

that was the beginning

of my recovery,

that night

at Walgreen's. Ha!

Not all men and women in jail

are criminals.

A mental illness can put you

in a place where you have

no business being there.

What's going on with your mind

puts you in a criminal area.



Justin: I stopped

taking the meds.

I relapsed on my symptoms, and

I was arrested in April 2007,

and I was booked in the Miami

Dade County jail on a felony.

I had a complete psychotic

breakdown in their cell.

And then, um, they transferred

me to the 9th floor,

which is dubbed

"the forgotten floor."

[Inmates screaming]

And there's just a whole

wing full of people screaming,

I mean, screaming at the top

of their lungs.

The corrections officers,

they start coming around,

and they tap on the glass

every 15 minutes.

And they go

[Knocks 3 times]

And they say,

"Show your face"

because they want to make sure

you're not gonna commit suicide.

That's 4 times an hour,

every hour, 96 times a day,

somebody is coming around,

smacking on this glass.

It was terrible.

I said, "Where am I?

Where the hell am I?"



After about 6 weeks in jail,

somebody got me to sign up

for treatment.

Vinson: When it comes to

mental illness, the criminal

justice system

in the United States

is one that demonstrably

is not just.

Rather than the mental health

care system being in a position

to step up and provide

interventions for people,

they end up

falling into the system

that always has doors open and

is willing to take more people,

and that's

the criminal justice system.

Pete: People get stuck in this

cycle of constantly in and out

and in and out of jails,

prisons, or hospitals.

[Slide projector advances]

Kevin: When I was sick,

everything was black and white,

good versus evil.

It didn't feel like reality.

It felt like a fever

dream or something.

I thought I was

some sort of prophet

who had some sort of role

in surviving Armageddon.

Pete: One day, he slipped out of

the house, and he happened to go

toward a house of a former

friend of his, long ago moved.

Kevin: And to me, if I had

gotten in that house,

I could go to sleep, and then

when I woke up,

Armageddon would be over and

there would be peace on Earth.

So I took a potted plant and

I threw it through the window.

[Glass breaks]

Pete: And he went in and he

turned over the photographs

of the family because he thought

they were staring at him.

I had this notion that

I needed to be invisible,

And how do you become invisible?

You disrobe.

So I got completely naked,

and I'm walking around

in this stranger's house, and

then I have to cleanse myself

from sin because

the Armageddon's happening.

So I go up and I draw a bath,

and I cleanse myself.

I lay down in the bed,

and I fall asleep.

And suddenly these police dogs

come, and they jump on my arm

[Barking]

and then there's about

10 or 12 police officers

who surround me and pin me naked

to the ground,

and when they

put me in a paddywagon,

it started to set in

a little bit,

the reality of what

I had done.

It was humiliating.

You're physically as raw

and as open

as you could possibly be.

The owner had a g*n.

My life was spared because

the day I broke in just happened

to be the day they

were on vacation.

Pete: And I got a call.

Kevin had been charged

with two felonies.

So we go to court

and we're told,

"You have to make a decision

right now.

Do you want to plead guilty

or not plead guilty?"

Complete strangers who have

no knowledge of who he is

are gonna make this decision in

a matter of 5 minutes,

and "This is my son!

"This is his future.

He's sick.

Why are you going to

ruin his life?"

I tried to get him help

and was told by the law, "No."

Now that same law wanted to

punish him for a crime

he committed when he was sick.

This is my child, and you're

telling me you're not gonna

give him help because you

don't think he needs it

and he's not dangerous enough.

How dare you?

We luckily delayed it, and then

the homeowner didn't show up

for the second hearing,

and we were able to get

two years of probation.

Do I see myself

as a criminal?

Um, I think it's hard for me

to say yes

because when

I was arrested,

I originally wanted to plead not

guilty by reason of insanity.

But I think the answer

is yes.

I do feel accountable,

and you just feel regret

and embarrassment.

Once something is done

that's wrong,

in your heart, you want

to fix it, but you can't.

Pete: The fortunate ones have

been able to get back

into the community and get

services and living well,

but the sickest of the sick have

been abandoned on our streets

and are locked in our

jails and prisons.

Insel: By treating this

like a criminal justice problem

instead of a health problem,

we've turned our hospitals

into prisons.

At the same time, we've

turned our prisons

into mental health

institutions.

One of the largest

mental health institutions

in the United States is

the Cook County Jail in Chicago.

There's something

surreal about that.



[Brass band playing]

[Whistle blows]

Collin: We were affluent,

upper middle class.

We felt invincible.



We were 15-year-old athletic

kids that were comfortable,

doing good in school,

we were OK.

We didn't--we didn't think

that this was possible.

We thought that we were

immune to stuff like this,

but it's not true.

This happens to anyone--

any way, shape, or form.

It doesn't matter.

And that came as

a big surprise, too,

for sure,

but only after the fact.

Everyone in our town

knows what happenednow,

and everyone was

affected by this.

Wednesday, February 7, 2018,

Nathan Bruno died by suicide.



Collin: The last time I saw

Nathan was in lunch at school

the day before.

It was just normal Collin

and Nathan activities, really.

Nothing was different,

and that's what scares me.

Rick: I knew Nathan was off.

I had a few conversations

with him

about what may be

bothering him.

And I went through

a list of things.

Is it bullying?

Is it sex?

Is it drugs?

Is it peer pressure?

The only thing he said

to me was,

"Dad, I just feel like

kids have it harder nowadays."

Collin: It was

an emotional heart attack.

It was just like

my entire world exploded

in front of my face.

I didn't know what to

think anymore

about anything, about anyone.

It started with a prank made

towards a high school employee,

which Nathan took

full responsibility for,

although there were

influences from other kids.

Lucas: The football coach who

was getting prank-called by Nate

put pressure on

all the kids and said,

"You're not gonna play on my

team and you're not

"gonna participate if you talk

to this kid and associate

with this kid."

Nathan would sit down

at the lunch table,

and all the kids

at the lunch table

would get up and move away.

He felt like nobody was ever

gonna talk to him again.

Rick: At 15 years old, that can

have a profound effect

on your mental state.

Angel: The situation

that had happened,

I was getting blamed

for something

that I really didn't do,

And I blamed Nathan for that.

Last time I spoke to him,

I was texting him very angrily,

mad at him.

And doing so, I felt like I

played a part in him getting

to that breaking point where

he felt nothing and decided to

take that decision

to k*ll himself.

Rick: The last time I saw

Nathan, Nathan and I exchanged

some words about, you know,

how serious things

like this can be.

He was sitting on this couch

watching TV like he did

most evenings.

Angel: Nathan's house is right

on the way to the school.

And as we're all driving past,

everyone sees an ambulance

and a stretcher with a white--

white blanket over it.

He was just a joyful kid.

And he was hilarious!

So

I think Nathan

was the most charming,

most funny, most charismatic

kid I ever knew.

He knew how to brighten up any

room, no matter how dark it was.

Hey, watch this.

Watch me.

Lucas: The way Nathan was as

a person says a lot

about the nature of suicide.

It can be in anyone, and anybody

can have these thoughts

and feeling of being

alone and no one to talk to.

It felt like we got

hit with a wrecking ball

basically, in a way.

Everything for us changed.

Collin: It sent the school

into a spiral,

just out of control.

Boy: There was a couple of us

in gym class,

and we just like,

all started crying.

So I went to, uh, Guidance,

and they were kind of like,

"Uh, well, you have to

schedule a meeting."

The guidance counselors

are not trained in that field.

They didn't know what to do.

None of our teachers

knew what to do with us.

High school is one of the most

stressful things that someone

goes through in their life.

Anyone watching this that is

in high school right now

can attest to that.

There is so little help for

people struggling like this.

There is so little

counseling available,

especially in school.

Vinson: So school

counselors may have

specialized training when

it comes to education

and vocational issues,

they may not have it or even

have clinical licensure when

it comes to mental illness

or mental health disorders.

Owen: Right after Nathan,

I probably had like 25 kids

in my basement,

and we literally didn't leave

the basement for like 3 days.

Angel: We began to learn how

to help each other

in our darkest times.

We all really needed

each other at that point.

Angel: It was really the

beginning of us understanding

each other and talking

about our feelings.

We were just sort of

talking about different things

about Nathan's death

and different things around it,

and it sort of turned into

talking about mental health

as a whole

and educating ourselves

on everything about it.

Collin: We kind of said,

"Something's not right.

"You know, something

needs to be changed.

We can't watch this

happen to anyone else."



Rick: His friends said,

"We want to do something

about what happened.

We want to make a difference

in the name of Nathan."

Collin: It's all about

speaking and talking about it.

I think that could have saved

Nathan's life,

and it could save anyone's life

that is feeling the same way.

And that's where

ESI came from.

Ava: Before the incident

with Nate, the school never

talked about

mental illness at all.

They never talked about

depression, mental illness,

and stuff like that.

Now we talk about what ways

you can do to help someone,

talking about coping skills

and red flags,

and it really helped me.

I've grown to know how

to help people now.

Girl: I started to be involved

with Every Student Initiative

because I was just really,

I guess, proud of what they

were doing and how they

respectfully were doing it.

I had a mental illness,

and I knew about it,

and I wanted to express it

and be in that

kind of space where I felt

safe to talk about it.



Angel: I started to realize

after the grieving period

of Nathan that I needed to

talk to someone, I needed to

get right with myself.

So I started to

see a therapist.

It kind of was like a,

uh, epiphany in a way.

Collin: We also had

the idea for Nathan's Law.

The mission is to review,

revise, and create policies

and programs to improve social,

emotional support in schools

and communities.

A structured support

system in every school.

Collin: We brought it to the

State House the first time.

It didn't make it out

of the committee,

but that didn't stop us.

We know what can help

and what will help.

This law, we strongly believe,

can stop this

from ever happening again.

Reporter: This morning,

Governor Dan McKee signed

a recently approved

suicide prevention bill

at the second annual Be Great

for Nate Fundraising Gala.

Last night's event at

the Ochre Court in Newport

was in honor of Portsmouth

teenager Nathan Bruno

who was 15 years

Collin: This is the story of

a thousand little towns

just like Portsmouth.

Insel: There are a million

suicides every year worldwide.

For every suicide,

there are 11 victims.

One is the person who died,

and 10 are the other people

who will never be the same.

Rick: I believe it

takes such an extreme event

because it gets our attention,

but this isn't

the story I wanted.

Collin: I wish I could have

done this without

Nate dying by suicide.

But if Nathan didn't pass away,

someone else would have.

I wish I could have told

Nate he meant the world

to all of us,

and if he could see us now,

what we would have done

to stop what he did.

I wish I could have given

my best effort.

I could have

tried to stop this.

I could

have gotten him help

if I couldn't help him

myself.

That's what I would tell him.

And that's what I

would say to you.

There is always someone that

cares about you that much

that they will do

anything for you.

They will do anything

to make sure

that doesn't happen

to you, too.

[Thunder]



Amethyst: I definitely think

mental illness is something

hiding in plain sight

because there are so many people

dealing with it.

It's definitely

a part of life.

People who go through this

kind of thing, they would

never wish it upon anybody.

It's just something that we

certainly can't help.

Not everybody has such

an accepting family as I do,

and not everybody lives

in an area where mental illness

is widely acknowledged

and accepted.



Woman: Overall, the general

conversation about mental health

it's getting better,

but I don't think it's

addressed enough.

I think almost everybody I

know knows someone that has

either a family member,

a spouse, a child, a friend,

a coworker, somebody.

They may not personally

have mental illness,

but I guarantee that somebody

that they know does,

and humanizing it,

bringing it home,

makes it more real

to people.

Draiman: Our world is plagued

by an epidemic.

Amethyst: I was very excited

to see this concert,

because I think if everybody

could just see

how many people there are

that are going through these

things together

Draiman: Addiction

and depression

are incredibly

powerful demons.

Amethyst: then there would be

a lot more acceptance

Draiman: They are diseases.

Amethyst: once we realize

how big it is.

Draiman: Mental illnesses

they're no different

than cancer.

By a show of hands,

how many of you have struggled

with the demons of addiction

and depression yourself

or know someone that has?

[Crowd screaming]

Keep those hands up.

Now take a look

around this arena.

[Guitar playing softly]

You are not alone.

[Cheering]

Amethyst: Thousands

and thousands around me

that all felt similar things

to what I felt.

So it was really a moment of

realization of, "Wow,

I'm not alone in this."

I had realized at that moment

that there were people

I know that

go through this.

I definitely feel inspired

to go out and try to make

a difference in other

people's lives.

One person can just

get the word out and then

more people will just spread,

and it'll just all

I feel like eventually everybody

will be understanding

and loving of everybody else

for who they are.



Thompson: The human body

needs light to perform.

When that light comes inside

your life,

now you're able to

do so many things.

It makes you think better,

it makes you see better,

so you do more things

in the light.

It's so important

to realize that

people do overcome having

a mental illness and they go on

to do spectacular things

in their lives.

[Slide projector advances]

Makalynn: I've been clean since

the day I went in treatment,

7 1/2 years now.

And that's because of

a support system.

My entire family,

they were there for me

and then getting--getting

involved in NA,

so a 12-step program

that created

a whole new family for me.

Samantha:

I'm seeing my therapist,

I'm seeing a psychiatrist,

I see my regular, um,

primary care physician.

They all kind of work together,

which is really nice.

I have a support team here,

but it took years to get.

[Slide projector advances]

Kevin: The fifth time

you get hospitalized,

nobody wants

anything to do with you.

My brother basically told me

that if you want to be

involved in your niece's life,

we don't want you to be

the uncle who we can't

trust around her.

For some reason,

that sunk in my head

and I got tired of

being that person.

For me, I know

it's utmost necessary

that I'm on medication.

Lydia: I found an AA sponsor,

and I found myself again.

Everything fell into place.

I feel like there is ground

underneath me and like I know

where I'm going, I know where

my future is heading,

and I feel good.

But it's still something that

I have to deal with every day.

Isabel: Looking at Xavier now,

he's still struggling,

but he has his moments

that are better,

having learned coping skills.

He's now able to, like,

"You know what?

I'm feeling depressed. I'm gonna

get out and do something else."

Xavier: When I'm skating,

I'm not, like,

overwhelmed by my situation.

I think I feel better.

I don't know.

Guess it gets to a point

where I'm like, "Oh, hey, look.

I guess I'm not sad,

but I still am."

I don't think

he's much different now.

I think he just knows

how to carry himself.

Take time to learn how

your sibling communicates,

because you can understand

what triggers them,

and it--it makes a--

a good, comfortable space

for them to want to,

like, grow and continue

to talk to you.

That's really important.

So, I like to

show up to skate.

I just wanted to be there

and, like, be around him

and, like, watch him shine.



Morgan: After the storm's

the prettiest. It's true.

You're gonna get tossed around,

but that's what makes all

of us who we are.

I can't sit here and say

that I'd be talking about

any of this with you guys

if I hadn't gone through

the pain myself.

Justin: Don't hold onto

that resentment,

that pain, that fear.

Don't hold onto that

‘cause it makes you sick

and there's a whole life out

there just waiting for you.

Maclayn: I'm justme,

and I can't do

anything about that.

I justam who I am,

and that's, like,

the best gift

that I could be given.

I like the way I am, yes.

I agree that I do.

I am not bipolar disorder.

You know, I am not

mental illness.

Have a conversation

with yourself about it,

and that way it could help you

feel more comfortable

to speak to other people.

Reach out. Use your words.

Use--just say something.

I know that in the past when

I've heard other people

tell their stories, um, it makes

me feel more validated

to know that they've

also gone through this really

difficult thing in their lives,

and it's, like, reminder

that things

can get better.

So I hope my story

helps others.

Alexis: What you do today

affects 7 generations

ahead of you,

so you have to make sure

what you're doing

today is good.

Not only is trauma

embedded in my DNA,

but so is resilience,

so I know for a fact

that my ancestors and my elders,

they're rooting for me

and they want me to do good.



So I'll share my story

over and over again.

I'll go through those emotions,

like, a million times

if it helps one person.

At the same time, in some

ways, it heals that little--

that little scar that's in me.

Kennedy:

At the end of the day,

the great equalizer

are these illnesses,

and when you share

about your common experience,

there is a bond in that,

a fellowship in that,

that people who find it

don't ever want to let go of it

because it's what they've

always been looking for.

They just didn't know they

were looking for it.

Kevin: I was the guy who

pushed the shopping carts

at Home Depot.

And then my case manager

came up to me, and she said,

"I got a job for you.

I want you to be

a Peer Support Specialist."

Suddenly, I was

given this job

because I had a mental illness,

because I had a criminal record.

Be a voice for people who

are going through

the similar struggle

as to what I went through.

was necessary

to go through them

to arrive

where I am now.

An incredibly important part

of the mental health workforce,

increasingly, is going to be

people with lived experience

who have recovered and who

want to share that experience

with other people to help

them recover.

Vinson: They're able to draw

from their lived experience

with mental illness

to identify a mission

of helping other people

who are in that place

that they were in,

and of helping those people

understand that that doesn't

have to be the way

that their story ends.

My name is Leah Reed.

I'm 27 years old,

and I'm a peer specialist

with the Felony Jail

Diversion Program in Miami Dade.

My name is Justin Volpe.

I'm currently 35 years old,

and I'm a certified

recovery peer specialist

at the Jail Diversion Program.

These past 12 years,

I've helped over 1,000 people

get out of jail

and get them linked

in the community

and help people recover.

I graduated with my

psychology degree

from UNC Charlotte.

I plan on either going

to college and becoming, say,

a social worker or getting

a degree in psychology

and coming back to

the community and helping out

kids in Portsmouth.

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Makalynn: I think that my

interest in criminal justice

started with my dad being

incarcerated in and out

and then me learning that he

isn't just a bad guy.

He's not just an inmate.

He's a person who is struggling

with something, and our

penal system found it best

to incarcerate him rather than,

um, you know, order him

to a treatment center

for his addiction.

I'm a graduate student.

I'm getting my masters in

criminal justice right now,

and I want to work with

offender re-entry in some way.



Justin: One candle can

light thousands of candles.

That's all we can do.

We can't do it for people,

but we can help guide them

and suggest what has worked

for me and thousands of others.

Kennedy: This is the public

health challenge of our time,

much more than in terms

of medical disability.

It's in terms of

lost relationships,

damaged communities,

tragic pain and suffering.

When is the suffering

going to stop?

Insel: The problem of

mental illness is everywhere.

We are in a crisis, and that

crisis has to do with

our inability to provide

the kind of care that people

with mental illness need

and to provide it in a way that

they can use at a time

when they can use it.

I think that

American society has

tremendous resources

at its disposal

and that our lack of progress

is less a matter of,

uh, resources

and more a matter of will.

It's not that we can't address

things in a meaningful way,

we just haven't chosen to.

Thompson: If you're

feeling hopeless and feeling

there's not a chance for you,

and everything is lost and gone,

I will tell you everything

is not over for you.

I will show you that, and

hopefully you can show me back,

and we can show each

other together

and work on our mental illness.

Because you can't go through

it alone because I have it.

So you're not lost,

because I have it.

You're not alone, because

I have it.

And you're talking to me,

sO now you have someone

that's the same as you

who's ready to go with you.

That's what I would tell you.

I will show you that

it can be done.

Lydia: I feel for you.

II really do.

I have been in your place

and I know how hard it is,

and I know it feels like

nobody understands and nobody--

nobody knows what you're going

through, but I do.

And I--it's a really hard place

to be at, and I understand.

Woman: Ooh ooh ooh ♪

Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ♪

Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ♪

Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ♪

Kevin Earley: I been

in the back of a squad car ♪

Handcuffs diggin'

in my wrists, not far ♪

From feelin' suicidal ♪

My life up and down

like a seesaw ♪

Late at night,

I ask God for a response ♪

But it's like

a dropped call ♪

Or one placed on hold ♪

My heart pumps cold,

blood bold ♪

So much turmoil ♪

I want to curl up

into a ball ♪

Like, f*ck the world

and write it all off ♪

Then I zone out,

alcohol numbs my spirit ♪

Tired as a weary soul

Hopin' that water is

what my theories hold ♪

I need miracles, not the

closed ears of conspiracies ♪

I'm lookin' in the mirrors

beyond appearances ♪

And this is what I see ♪

Woman: Ooh ooh ♪

Mmm, whoa oh ♪

Oh oh oh ohh ohhhhh ♪

Whoa oh oh ♪

Oh oh oh ohh ohhhhh ♪

Kevin: I been

in the mental hospital ♪

Lookin" at the judge,

like, "Drop the sentence" ♪

Parents crying,

asking for his forgiveness ♪

Face the verdict now,

I've been convicted ♪

I've been in the back

of a paddywagon ♪

Dragged out of my home,

kickin' and screamin' ♪

By policemen,

taken against my will ♪

Been fragile,

doctors prescribed pills ♪

Been in the mental hospital ♪

Talkin' to other patients

about life issues ♪

Met schizophrenics

in drug clinics ♪

Abusers who misuse,

suicide girls ♪

I fight demons, tryin' to stay

out of trouble ♪

9 to 5 stressful,

but that's survival ♪

A piece of the puzzle,

they tell me I'm crazy ♪

Maybe I'm crazy,

nobody understands ♪

So I talk to the planet,

my theories are abstract

Watching TV,

and I start hearing voices ♪

America telling me

it's all about the money ♪

But it sounds funny,

‘cause I know I got choices ♪

I been to

the mental hospital ♪

I been

to the mental hospital ♪

I been to

the mental hospital ♪

And if I'm crazy,

that's how the world made me ♪

I been to

the mental hospital ♪

Been to the mental hospital ♪

I been to

the mental hospital ♪

And if I'm crazy,

that's how the world made me ♪

And if I'm crazy, that's how

the world made me ♪

And if I'm crazy,

that's how the world made me ♪

And if I'm crazy, that's how

the world made me ♪

And if I'm crazy,

that's how the world made me ♪