01x03 - Inside 'Proper Preparation and Planning'

[bunniefuu]

- Homelander forces his son

to say "I love you"

after knowing him

all of two seconds.

The Deep is all

about the shroom life

and might just go

full cyto on us,

and apparently,

strong is the new pretty,

but don't forget

the lipgloss, ladies.

I'm Aisha Tyler

and this is

"Prime Rewind: Inside The Boys".

(music)

I am your host, Aisha Tyler and

we are peeling back the layers

and ripping off the face

of tonight's wild episode.

And if you haven't watched it

yet, you gotta go watch it

'cause we are going to ruin

all the surprises.

All right, joining me tonight,

the man who can't get enough

of Madelyn's breast milk,

Homelander himself,

Antony Starr.

Oh, beautiful.

Hello.

- Hello. Hi, guys.

- Hi, you're welcome,

good to see you.

- Hey, good to see you.

- And the Seven's new addition

repping for the girls

who get it done,

Aya Cash, A.K.A. Stormfront.

Oh, hello, lady.

- That's me.

Oh, that's me, hello.

- Hi. And lastly, the man who

got his gills fingerbanged

oh so delicately,

Chace Crawford, The Deep.

- Hi.

- Hi.

How's it going?

- I'm good.

- Welcome, guys,

it's good to see you.

Antony, Chace, there are now

three women in the Seven.

It's a big kind of swing

in the power dynamic.

How do your characters

feel about this?

We'll start with Antony,

how does Homelander feel

about the fact that

he's almost outnumbered?

- Um, yeah, I don't think

Homelander really cares too much

about who's in the Seven

specifically based on gender

as long as they can function.

You'll notice that the most

dysfunctional member,

ex-member of the Seven

is The Deep.

- You miss me, though, right?

Homelander misses me, right?

- I desperately,

desperately miss

having someone to kick around.

I mean, you know.

- Oh, you f*cking miss me.

- Everyone needs a

lackey, right?

100%, of course. Of course.

- How about The Deep, Chace?

I mean, I think The Deep

just wants back in

under any circumstance, right?

- I think he wants back in

under any circumstance, yes.

I think, uh

He would be Homelander's

assistant at this point.

But yeah, I think he misses

that fame lifestyle.

- Right.

- Vought might need a

new shoe shiner.

So there might be

an opening coming up.

- Oh, cruel!

- Please, I'll do it.

I'll do it.

- You can give me a nice

shoe polish with your gills.

- Aw

- Aya, Stormfront comes in,

she is her own, her very

specific powerhouse.

What do you think Stormfront

brings to the Seven?

- Well, I think Stormfront is

probably rivals Homelander

in terms of her

actual strength and powers,

so that's something

she contributes.

(coughs)

- Bullshit.

- But she's also

yeah. Yeah.

You'll see. You'll see.

I can let the work

speak for itself.

- Bullshit.

- You'll see.

- Yes.

- Um, also, I feel like

The Seven are mostly, like,

you know, they're sort of

the old-school movie stars

and Stormfront is

the new Tik-tok star,

with millions of fans

that everyone else doesn't quite

understand the value of yet.

But she's able to sort of

use social media

in a way that none of the rest

of the Seven understand

or know how to, so

she brings kind of a tech savvy

and a new generation.

- She's definitely

got that, like,

Supe-influencer vibe going on.

What's exciting about her

in the beginning,

it really looks like she

just wants to kind of like

shake things up

in service of the cause,

in service of making

the Seven more effective,

more popular and a

little bit more balanced

in terms of the dynamic.

This show a big kind of

throughline of this show

is corporate politics,

the way that people kind of

jostle for power in

a corporate environment.

Do any of you have any

real life experiences

that you brought into the show

to kind of inform

your performance?

- I'm not particularly

corporate friendly.

So, um

(laughing)

- I haven't got a lot

of corporate experience.

- I think you should list

that as one of

your strengths, honestly.

- You know, I mean,

again it comes back

to the power struggle.

I think Homelander, to be

honest as he says to his kid

in episode two,

uh, he believes

he's superior to everything.

So he believes that

the company exists for him,

the corporate structure

is only there

to facilitate his needs.

- Right, the rest of

it's immaterial.

Um, Chace, or Aya,

do either of you have

do you have like a previous--

like, I had a day job.

I had a corporate day job

before I was able to

throw it all away

and sleep 19 hours a day

and drink for breakfast.

Have either of you ever

had a corporate experience?

- The only corporate

experience I had

was probably

working at Abercrombie

when I was like 15 years old.

So that was, uh

that's about it.

- Of course you did.

- I brought a lot of that

to the character.

- Of course you worked

at Abercrombie & Fitch.

- That feels right.

That feels absolutely right.

- I can just see you outside,

no top on,

getting the ladies coming in.

- The top was on,

I worked the register.

- Oh, God, I wanted to

work at Abercrombie.

(snorts)

- Sorry, I snorted.

That was so great.

- Maybe I can finally

get a job there.

You got to look real good

to get a job at Abercrombie.

I used to walk by the store

being like, no?

No? Not interested? Really?

I had a shaved head, it wasn't

what they were looking for.

Um, but, uh, I waited tables,

but, look we're actors.

I mean, actors, we,

television was created

to sell dishwashers.

The truth is, we're all sort

of part of a corporation.

- Right.

- Um, and I think

you have two choices:

you can either work within,

or you can work outside

the corporation

if you disagree with something,

or if you want to change things.

So everyone sort of

decides for themselves,

but let's not pretend

that actors

aren't a part of corporations.

- Yeah.

- Hi, Amazon!

(laughing)

- That's true. It's true.

We work for the biggest

corporation on the planet.

- Send me some handwipes!

(laughing)

- Um, but there's been this

theme running through this show

Antony,

that Homelander's just got

a really intense love of dairy.

Um, and, obviously,

it's s throughline.

- Dairy, you say.

- Well, you know, human dairy.

I don't know what you

call human dairy.

And it's a theme,

it's a theme.

To me, it kind of speaks

to like the idea

of this guy being, like,

All-American,

this Americana idea

that like, you know,

young healthy mid-western

boys drink milk.

Is that how you see it?

Is that how you think

Homelander sees it?

- I don't know that it is

quite that wholesome.

I think for Homelander

it's a way of reconnecting

with the person that he was

closest to in a lot of ways

that drove him nuts

but that was, you know,

his number one ally

as he was coming up.

And through all the years

that he's been part

of this corporate structure,

in this superhero business,

and I think that breast milk

is just a lonely,

tragic man's way

of connecting to

the woman he loves.

- That was beautiful.

- I don't

- What was it, though?

What was it?

- Oh, it was breast milk

from Elizabeth Shue.

(laughing)

- Oh, yeah.

I said I wouldn't do

the f*cking scene if it wasn't.

- I just want to say

I just respect the method work.

- Method.

- That is so method.

Chace, in the world

of "The Boys",

a Supe who sexually assaults

someone is sent to the Stix

to reflect on their actions.

You know, their travel costs

are covered,

which, you know,

definitely smacks of

some Catholic Church sh*t.

Um, did this feel like

a fair punishment to you,

well, you know,

as an actor, as a character,

did it feel like

the punishment fit the crime?

- Oh, as the character,

oh yeah.

He thinks he was probably

way wronged

and punished over

the top, right?

I mean, clearly, yeah,

he should probably be

serving some prison time

or some charges, right?

I mean, but, uh

Yeah, you know, guys like

that, I feel like, you know,

they go through

with the apology

and well, I did it,

it should be squashed, you know,

and he felt like he got punished

and clearly needs some

more soul searching.

- A little bit more work.

A little bit more work.

Which I imagine he may get

to do during this season.

A little bit more

interior work.

Uh, well, I'm sure

that The Deep's story

has inspired people all over

the world to engage

in their own deep

self-reflection,

so I've teamed up with

the Church of the Collective

for a little exercise and what

I want is for each of you guys

to draw a self-portrait

in 30 seconds.

So

- Don't start the clock yet.

- We're holding, we're holding.

- Okay.

- Okay.

- I can tell you mine would

be a stick figure

so, yeah.

- 30 seconds?

- 30 seconds, hold on.

- And, ok, wait.

We're holding.

- Wait, wait, wait,

wait wait.

Gotta get my pen ready.

Got sh*t all over me now.

- You're doing great.

You look like an artist.

- Get it together, Ant.

- You look like

an artist, Antony.

Oh, here we go, and

clock starts now.

Go.

Somebody timing this,

'cause okay, good.

I like how cool Chace looks,

just very relaxed.

- Chace looks cool all the time.

- Chace is just chill, like

he's been doing self-portraits.

- Why Abercrombie

wanted him to sell, uh

boxer shorts and teen jeans.

- If he holds up an Abercrombie

I'm going to fall

off my stool.

- Guys, it was like

three months.

I valeted cars as well,

which was a lot more fun.

- Five, four

- You go on any joyrides?

- Yeah, I did, actually.

- Three, two, one.

Hands up, pens down.

I've always wanted to say

something like that.

- Are you kidding me?

- It's like Chopped, I love it.

I love Chopped.

- Hands up!

Hands up, utensils down.

- Just sweating.

- I'm going to start

with Chace because

you looked so relaxed

during your drawing,

so I'm really excited to see

what you came up with.

So, want to throw

that up there?

Oh, m*therf*cker,

did you draw a dolphin?

- It's Free Willy.

- Amazing.

ANTONY: Oh, Chace, beautiful.

- And that's me.

- God, you're a real

artist, okay.

I'd need a week to draw

something like that.

- Yeah, I mean, I would

need months.

- Exactly.

- This is here's my

contribution.

(laughing)

- I really enjoy that.

- You've got a big

- Replete with strange erection.

And just like

- It's on a canvas.

- It's great!

- I think we could sell it

for charity.

- I really think you could.

I really actually think

that you could.

Okay, and

CHACE: Give it a few years.

I mean, you know.

- For it to marinate.

Aya, how did you do?

I'm really excited about this.

I don't know,

I did okay.

- Oh, oh, wow.

That's fine.

ANTONY: Oh, come on!

- A lot of room to improve.

- I don't know,

it's interpretive.

- Amazing.

- I felt like, I don't know,

maybe

I feel like my boobs

are a little higher.

- Well, you're reclining,

so I wouldn't yeah.

- Thank you.

- Agent Raynor told Butcher

she'd send an edible arrangement

to his funeral in Season One,

so as a last f*ck you,

Butcher sent one to hers.

We've decided to build her

a better one.

Why don't you guys take a look.

It's a deluxe

bereavement bouquet,

filled with chocolate dipped

doves as well as these

truly meaningful items:

a bar coaster from where Raynor

and Butcher first hooked up

ANTONY: Oh, wow.

- A self-help book: What to

Do When Your World Explodes.

A DVD entitled Famous Headless

People in History.

Headless Horseman, Marie

Antoinette, you get the deal.

A tampon for those unexpected

nose bleeds

right before your head explodes,

a torn piece of paper with

"f*ck You" written on it

which were Raynor's favorite

words and mine, too.

ANTONY: f*ck you.

- Goodbye, Agent Susan Raynor.

We'll miss you and your sweet,

sweet f*ck off smile.

It's really like,

the "f*ck You" note that I think

really just brought

the emotion home.

- It gives it that little

je ne sais quoi.

- Okay.

- Laser baby!

- We all know what

laser baby means.

We are so excited to have

a surprise guest

joining us right now:

one of the evil masterminds

behind "The Boys" show,

executive producer

Seth Rogen.

- Hello!

Here we go.

- Hi, how's it going?

Good to see you.

- Um, welcome.

- I have a baby sh**ting lasers

from its eyes

introduce me wherever I go.

And finally, it makes sense.

- Wouldn't it be great if

we all just had a laser baby?

That's one of

my favorite scenes.

- Everyone deserves

a laser baby.

- It might be the thing that

made me

actually want to have a baby

one day.

- So, Seth,

the scope of the show

keeps getting bigger and bigger.

For a show that prides itself

on being extreme,

how do you keep

going there without

things kind of spinning apart?

- Um, it's a lot

of recombobulation.

I mean, we all watch the show,

we share what is

appalling to us

and what isn't

appalling to us,

and through a lot of

conversations we slowly arrive

at probably something that

is slightly more appalling

than it should be,

but, uh

In general, it's hard.

I'm sure we don't get it

right all the time.

Um, but we're swinging for

the fences, that's for sure.

- So this isn't the first

Garth Ennis comic

that you have adapted for

television, right?

You and Evan Goldberg

did "Preacher" as well.

- Yes.

- Were the processes

for adapting these two

properties different?

- They were.

"Preacher" I'd say

was harder to adapt.

Um, it's about religion

which is like a non-starter.

God is a character on the show,

Jesus played

an inbred buffoon

was portrayed as

an inbred buffoon on the show.

So there were some

alienating elements

that were baked into the show,

I would say.

And "The Boys"

is about superheroes,

which could not be more

popular right now especially,

so the timing of that was

also kind of helpful.

- Right.

- It's funny, because when

the comic came out,

the movies were not

very popular,

so it's kind of like

aged into relevancy

in a mainstream way.

- Right.

I guess that's my follow-up

question to that,

which is, were there people

we have a canonical relationship

to superheroes

that is generally positive.

I mean, if you are a

superhero fan,

we want our superheroes

to be complex

but we don't

want them to be assholes.

I think like our general belief

is that they're good people.

Was there any pushback,

either when you were

developing the show

or from fans saying, like,

"Hey, you've kind of

ruined my relationship

to superhero canon?"

- Not really, 'cause

I love superheroes, too.

Mostly like

celebrity culture I think

is what we were lampooning.

Like, is that a word

anyone uses anymore?

I just used it.

- It's time to bring it back.

- Let's bring it back.

But that was more the

conversation we would have

when trying to sell the show,

which is, like, you know,

I know this more than anyone,

is celebrities are insane,

and they have like just

slightly more power

than the average

rich person does.

And, like, imagine

they could fly.

They would literally be the

worst people ever to be born.

- Absolutely would be.

In this episode of "The Boys",

The Deep really I don't know

if this is the right phrasing.

Really reconnected

with his body.

- Yeah.

- He had this shroom fueled

conversation with his

very, very chatty gills

so I think this question

is for the whole panel

but I want to start

with you, Seth.

In that same situation, is there

a part of your body

that you think would be

particularly conversational?

- Ooh, probably.

Your body gets weird

when you're on

enough hallucinogens, I'll say.

Yeah, I remember being on acid

and staring at my own nostrils

for maybe two hours wondering

what the f*ck they were.

So, uh, yeah, I think

in general orifices are strange

and hallucinogens

just add to that.

- Right, yeah, it is.

It did seem to effect him

in a very specific way.

Has anybody ever had

I'm not saying anyone's ever

spoken to their gills,

but when ever I see

hallucinogenic drugs portrayed

on television, I'm like,

that's not how it was.

Um but has anybody ever

had an experience

We won't call the cops on you

that was that kind of

transformative or

out of body?

- I remember when

I was a teenager

doing shrooms and,

like, being

I was a very late bloomer

still waiting

and, um

Stormfront's fake, by the way.

And, um, and

I remember being like,

oh, I have boobs.

Like I have boobs!

Like and finding my boobs

really beautiful.

This is too much information.

But I was really excited.

Look at these things!

They're gorgeous!

- I've had that exact same

revelation while on shrooms.

(laughing)

- I had a strange LSD experience

when I was younger.

Um we, me and some

friends took some LSD

and we started coming

up on it

and there was a guy

up a tree

and I decided that

I was sort of a hedgehog

and, uh

I looked up at this guy

and I was like,

"What the f*ck are you

doing up there?"

And he's like, "I'm a spider."

And I spent, I want to

say three, four hours

chasing this guy up a tree

trying to like catch him

as a hedgehog trying

to catch a f*cking spider.

And then after a while we

started coming down a little bit

and I'm like,

who the f*ck are you?

What are we doing?

And that was it, never saw

this guy again in my life.

- Oh. That seems like a

really lovely moment.

- Was this at burning man?

- That's New Zealand. We're all

doing that in New Zealand.

- I know.

- Chace, have you ever had

an experience like that

that you were able to

bring into that performance?

- Uh, yeah, you know.

I've definitely

done some research.

I mean, nowadays I'll usually

just end up on the floor

with my dog, just like,

"Are you okay?"

You know, really like

connecting with him

and you know talking to him

and learning from him, but, no.

I guess when I was younger we

broke into a football field,

got in the announcing booth,

flipped all the switches

and got the microphone

and heard our voices

through the whole stadium.

So that was pretty good.

- Wow.

- Different than The Deep,

for sure.

- Um, Chace, I actually hear

that playing The Deep

was not the character that

you originally auditioned for.

Is that true?

- It is true, yeah.

I, to be honest I went in there

with a different pitch.

I was Kripke was in the room

when I went in there,

but I wanted to play

the gills.

I'm always cast

as this, like, pretty boy,

I wanted to do

some character work.

And they they let me try it,

but they didn't ultimately

go that direction, I guess?

So

- Mad respect.

- I was kinda bummed out.

- But hey.

- I respect you. I respect that.

I actually think we have

a clip of the audition.

Can we play that?

Is that cool with you?

- Please.

- Let's roll the clip.

- As the ocean waves

crash through my slits

I am the oxygen of

the Mariana Trench!

The fury of the

subtropical gyre.

The gulfstream's

thunderous tide!

What

If that was too small,

I can go bigger.

Oh, that was good?

All right. See you guys.

- Um, let's talk about

the party store.

Um, because before Kimiko's

brother wrecked the place,

we got to see all

The Seven's merch

and, um, what is your

reaction when you see fans

wearing your costumes

in real life?

Has there been a lot of

cosplay for this show yet?

Have you seen a lot

of people dressed up?

- Oh, yeah. There's a ton.

And it's incredible, you know?

I don't know how they

get them so specific

and so so accurate.

- Yeah.

- They almost look as good

as the stuff on the show.

I mean, they're not,

obviously, but

- I will say cosplay levels

in like the last few years

- Crazy.

- I guess when they started

to realize people were

taking pictures of them,

has just, like, skyrocketed,

the quality of it.

A lot more naked cosplay,

no more guys

with their feet

in toilet paper boxes,

or anything like that.

Like they really go

they go hard.

Chace, would you be excited if

your gills had their own merch?

Not just The Deep but,

like, gill-specific merch?

And what is it like

to sh**t with those gills?

What is that like?

- Oh, yeah, we need

our own t-shirts.

Yeah, where it's just like

the graphics are right there.

They're beautiful.

I think they're beautiful.

Antony loves them.

- Is it all prosthetic?

ANTONY: They're disgusting.

- Obviously the talking

part is CG.

But, like, are

they pasting,

do they spend six hours

pasting that stuff on you?

- They do for

some of it, yeah.

They pasted them and then

the fingering scene,

like, episode six, they made

like a torso of me

with, like, actual body hair,

and then to get the close-up,

'cause you know,

there's actually room

in the body torso.

So I'm laying like this

and they got my own torso

on top of my torso and like

the camera's right here,

the director's in my face.

There's Paul behind me pumping

away at the air pressure

to make them move,

it was disgusting.

I couldn't get out of

there fast enough.

- They say sex scenes aren't

sexy in real life,

but that sounds great to me.

- Yeah.

- Awesome.

- What are you guys

we'll start with Antony,

but I want to hear

from everybody.

We're looking at Homelander

now as a parent.

- Of sorts. Sort of.

- What do you think of

his parenting skills?

- Well, you know,

there is an argument

that men are in crisis,

I think,

and that could be reflected in

the amount of solo moms

there are in the world.

But, look, you know,

I'm not sure if parents

could relate

to Homelander's parenting

as such.

But I definitely

I definitely think that

there's something--

I mean, I'm not a parent but

everyone I know that's got kids,

once they see their

little bundle of joy,

once this little piece

of them is in the world,

and it's their job to fill

it with good or bad or

you know, the responsibility

that comes with that,

and the connection

that they have

and the way that their life just

fundamentally shifts into

that becomes their purpose.

I think Homelander

desperately wants that,

but he's just

so deeply f*cked up,

and I really hope that

fathers don't connect

too much with Homelander's

parenting style.

I really think that would

be bad for children.

- There was a part of me

that thought he was like

that soccer dad, like,

you know, at the side

of the field just going

like, "Walk it off."

Grrar!

You know?

- Well, there is a scene

coming up, um

which is very much in that

- In that vein.

- Which I'm not

going to mention,

I don't want to spoil it.

But definitely

he turns into

the turbo soccer parent.

- Right.

- Which I've got to say

is one of the

the more enjoyable scenes

that I've shot,

especially with the kid, man.

He's great.

It was so much fun

working with him.

It really sickly funny.

- Oh, that's awesome.

- I'll tease it like that.

- That's awesome.

- Well, we dug through

some of the fan's

tweets about the show,

and we found one that

we wanted to share

with you guys.

@DrVarsha says

So Aya, what is your

response to this?

- Yeah, you can

you can, um

Run for president and still not

win 'cause you're a girl.

I don't know.

- But I think what's so fun

about that way that

we meet Stormfront is her idea,

she's just coming into

with an actually

just don't give a f*ck what

anybody thinks about me,

whether you want me here or not.

I'm not going

to play this game.

And it's a very refreshing

landing that she makes.

- Yeah, I mean, I definitely

have a side of me

that is, like, oh, do the right

thing, say the right thing.

And when I'm asked a question,

I used to feel like

it was my responsibility

to answer it whether or not

I thought it was reasonable.

And, um, to be honest,

watching enough male

co-stars say

I'm not interested

in that question

or I'm not going to say that,

or I'm going to say what I want

to that question

actually helped me sort of

realize that I didn't

I didn't have to

play the game

- Right.

- All the time.

So, look, we've all

experienced, uh

sexism in our lives,

and I think it's really

refreshing

to see someone

who's just not going

to take any sh*t from anyone.

- Absolutely.

Absolutely.

- Until she turns.

- Until she turns

into something.

Things become more layered

as time goes on.

- She's a real role model.

- Yeah.

- Guys, before we wrap it up,

we would love for

each of you

to tap back into your character

and send some thoughts

and well wishes

to another character

on the show.

Um, and, so, Antony,

as Homelander, you are up.

- Oh, well who else could

I possibly want to do this to.

Billy Butcher,

or as I call him, William,

uh, thoughts and prayers

go out to my friend.

I know you desperately

want your wife back.

I'll just let you know that

I'm keeping her warm for you.

- Oh, God.

SETH: So evil.

- Cruelty.

Cruelty was super.

Um, Chace's The Deep?

- Well my thoughts and prayers

go out to Homelander,

because, uh, I'm just lonely,

man, without you.

I want you to let me back in,

and I'm just out here

waiting on your call.

- I love the sincerity of that.

That was really sweet.

Aya as Stormfront?

- I just want to give

my thoughts and prayers

to sweet Ashy who thought

she got her dream job.

Uh but it's gonna be

a nightmare.

AISHA: Oh, a terrible,

terrible nightmare.

Seth, would you like to

offer thoughts and prayers

to anyone on this show?

- Uh, yeah, for sure.

I'd offer them to the guy,

the Langston Kerman's character,

the arrow guy.

'Cause, Eagle, whatever.

What's his name?

- Eagle D. Hunter?

Eagle D

- Yeah

Just, the Arrow

is the worst thing

a superhero could possibly have.

It's bad

Someone with a

bow and arrow is bad

in a normal everyday fight.

Nonetheless a superhero fight.

So I feel very

My deepest sympathies

to him.

- Poor Eagle.

ANTONY: Quiver.

- He's doing his best.

SETH: Quiver.

- Uh, I really want to thank

you guys so much for being here.

Antony, Aya, Chace and Seth,

thanks for being here

today with me.

- Thank you.

- We've learned that gills

not only provide life-changing

therapy sessions,

but they have the angelic voice

of a sweet puppy

baking cookies in

an alpine forest

thanks to the mellifluous tones

of Patton Oswalt.

Hi, Patton.

We want to know what would

your gills sing to you

in the midst of

a mid-life crisis?

Is it a song by Vanessa Carlton

or Garth Books?

Maybe Daughtry or

Megan the Stallion?

Well, we want to know your song.

So hit us up @TheBoysTV

and use the hashtag

#GillsGetItDone.

We are only on episode two,

and I've already lost count

of the decapitations,

but I'm so stoked

about what's ahead.

Join us after every

episode right here

as we break down the action,

chat with your

favorite characters,

and make your grandmother

deeply, deeply uncomfortable.

Be sure to watch

the next episode of "The Boys"

only on Prime Video,

and then find us here

as we go "Inside", fist-first,

but only with consent.

Goodnight, everybody.

See you next time.

- We're going to stop

for a second

because Antony's set just

(laughing)

That's perfect.

- Nah, keep going,

I've covered it.

There was an issue

but I think I fixed it.

- You fixed it, you fixed it.

You're a professional.

SETH: Did it fall?

- I see that, that's great.

- Just get one moment.

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