01x04 - Groundbreakers

[bunniefuu]

-I was a country music radio DJ. Yes.
-I love it!

-What is happening?
-I'm telling you, mommy is learning

it all here.

WFPR 14-Country,

-your hometown country princess 1947.
-MICKEY: Yes!

Robin René here on Saturday night,
playing the best in country music.

-Yeah, girl!
-MICKEY: What is happening?

-So I like to think I helped pave the way.
-You paved the way!

[THEME MUSIC PLAYING]

ROBIN: Something really special happens
when women connect.

Share, dream, and inspire each other.

This is Turning the Tables.

-This is what I love.
-[ALL LAUGHING]

This is what I wanted.
Totally unscripted.

It's you know, it's not sound-bite world.

-No, thank goodness.
-And it's called Turning The Tables.

If you wanna ask me a question?
You wanna ask someone else a question?

-But it's my show!
-It's your show.

So Mickey, congratulations!

-Look at you!
-BILLIE: That's awesome.

-ROBIN: Life is here.
-I'm a Grammy nominated baby mama.

-You're proud of it.
-I'm proud of it.

-How are you feeling these days?
-You know, it's not comfortable.

I can tell you that much.
This is not comfortable.

-Pregnancy is not for me, but I'm here...
-You're embracing it?

I'm embracing it, I am.
It's something else.

Excuse my French, apparently the kids say,
you are rocking it!

-ROBIN: Yes!
-Yes!

Like you are embracing it but beyond that,
you've really...

-[GRUNTS]
-...you are owning it.

And in a beautiful, beautiful way.

Well, you my dear, you've helped people.
My Hand in Yours.

-Aw, you're a sweetie pie, aren't you?
-But it's true.

-Tell everyone about that.
-You're sweet to say it, thank you!

Um, when someone's going through
a hard time,

I have, for a long, long time,

either sent a gift or a little flower,
a single bloom in a vase.

But with a note that says,
"My hand in yours."

It's my way of saying,
"I'm not with you, but I am with you."

And if you're going through a hard time,
imagine what it would feel like?

And all of the money raised

-goes directly to Children's Hospital.
-That's beautiful.

Where did it all stem from?

You wanting to connect
the dots in reaching out.

My mother was a wonderful actress,
but she was also a philanthropist

and worked with Maria Shriver

-and the Special Olympics.
-Hmm, yes.

And I just think I saw
that from a very young age.

People doing for other people.

Look at she, look...
The royal blue looking at you.

-[MICKEY CHUCKLING]
-Well, how can you not love the...

I mean, it's like, it's connecting.

-Yeah.
-BILLIE: For me personally,

it's always connecting.

I mean, when I feel disconnected
to people in the world and the universe,

-it's when I'm in trouble, I know that.
-Yeah.

-And then I need to get back somehow.
-ROBIN: Yeah.

Be connected, and you do get connected
by helping others.

-Amen to that.
-I know, Billie, with you,

you always are aware,
even at a young age.

Playing tennis, and you looked around,
and you saw a lot of white.

I had an epiphany.
I was at the Los Angeles Tennis Club,

daydreaming and just thinking
about my sport,

and said, "Everyone wears white shoes,
white clothes, you know,

"plays with white ba*ls,
that everybody who plays is white."

So, at 13, I go,
"Where is everybody else?"

-Hmm.
-BILLIE: This is ridiculous!

That's me in country music right now.
[CHUCKLES]

And so, well, when I saw you, I go...

-Yes!
-[ALL CHUCKLE]

-Finally! Finally!
-ROBIN: Right. Right.

-Country music! It's not all white!
-White!

Uh-huh, It's the same story,

-different era.
-MICKEY: Male.

-Right.
-BILLIE: So anyway,

I made a promise to myself
that day, that I would champion equality

and try to bring everybody else
into my sport, because...

-JAMIE: Snaps on you.
-Snaps on you.

I'm 62 years old but I'm gonna snap
because apparently,

-young people do this.
-[ALL LAUGHING]

-Yeah, man.
-JAMIE: And so mommy

-is gonna join it.
-What if you can't snap your fingers?

-Then you're in trouble.
-You just fake it, you know.

Tennis... Yeah, but tennis is
an international sport, it's global,

and I knew that at 13,
that I had an amazing opportunity.

But I also knew
I was a second class citizen as a girl.

But I knew that I was white
and it wasn't as...

It would be tougher on a sister of color.

But, I thought, "You know what,
I'm just gonna give it a go."

I have something...
I have such a privilege, I'm so blessed.

Was there a moment along in your career,
Mickey, where you said,

"You know what, I... At this moment,
I'm gonna start doing it my way"?

I read this book called
Black Like Me in college.

And it really touched my heart
because it was about a white man

who darkened his skin through radiation
to look like a Black man in the 1960s.

And went to the Deep South to see
what it was like to be a Black person?

So I wrote about it.
I wrote a song called, "Black Like Me."

And I remember, I finished the song

and I wrote it with two white guys,
and another Black woman.

And we wrote that song,
and I never in a million years thought

anybody would ever take a chance
on it in country music.

I even played it for people in country.
And they would be like,

"Let me get back to you on that."
And it changed everything for me.

And I went from trying
to be something I wasn't

to who I really, actually am.

Yeah, you're talking about
being your authentic self.

-It's really powerful.
-MICKEY: Yeah, thank you.

-Yeah. Owning it.
-BILLIE: When you're not your authentic...

-MICKEY: Doesn't work.
-...you lose, it doesn't work.

-Yeah.
-You have had to navigate, much like...

-Correct!
-...all of us here.

-You've had to navigate a world...
-MICKEY: Yeah.

...where you're not expected.

-MICKEY: Yeah.
-How's that been?

I dealt with so much racism
in the very beginning of my career,

but I was so used to it.

And it wasn't until I started, like,
going back and talking

about all these stories,
and things that I went through,

that I was like,
"Oh, my God, it was really hard!"

Like, I've gone to concerts
that I've sang at,

and sang while people
are waving their Confederate flag.

-I've been called the *-word.
-BILLIE: [INDISTINCT]

And things didn't really turn around
until, like what you guys were saying,

helping people,
and finding a purpose within your purpose.

And I went from just trying
to fit into this male-dominated world,

and don't get me wrong,
like it was hard for Black women.

But right now it's still hard
for white women too.

-Like they're getting discriminated
-In country.

against just as much as me.
I was like, "Are we in the 1950s?"

-Like what are we doing?
-Do the women in music

like, have an association or a union

-that you could be together?
-No.

-BILLIE: Have you ever thought about it?
-I wanna start that, for sure.

-Well then, why not? You'd be perfect.
-I'm trying to encourage...

-I'm trying to encourage them to...
-Why don't you just do it?

Just say, "If you wanna do that,
we'll help you."

-Yes, please.
-I'm not kidding.

-Please help me. I need all the help...
-We need one voice.

...'cause nobody understands
how bad it is in county music.

-It is really bad.
-But you'll have more power together

-and you'll have one voice...
-MICKEY: Yeah.

-...when you really want to make a point.
-MICKEY: Yeah.

And having the one voice
is really important

with negotiations or anything.
That'd be interesting. Okay.

There is no better head cheerleader
for anybody than Billie Jean King.

-I follow you in the world that we follow.
-I'm already... Thank you.

And you throw the light onto other people,
every second of your day.

-That's what it's about.
-JAMIE: Every day you are highlighting

somebody's accomplishment,
because you recognized your own

and what it meant,
and what it means for people,

just even what happened here with Mickey.
I mean, it's spectacular!

But do you know, the more you give,
the more you get. It's so simple.

-But I don't do it for that reason.
-Snaps on you, mommy!

-Snaps on you, hunty.
-JAMIE: There it is. Right there.

-You got Mickey going...
-I'm learning. I'm learning today.

ROBIN: You know,
country music is about storytelling,

-and you've got a story to tell.
-Mm-hmm, yeah.

-ROBIN: And you're telling that.
-Yeah.

And now, to be Grammy nominated,
the first Black woman

solo artist in a country music category...

It's crazy.

Snaps on you, mama!
Snaps on mama!

-That's crazy! [CHUCKLES]
-I love it. Come on!

-I know you've worked so hard, yes!
-MICKEY: Yeah.

Who's... What does that feel like?

[EXHALES] You know, it's so weird
'cause you dream...

I mean, you guys know,
y'all are legends here, but,

you dream of this moment
your whole life and you never...

Or at least I never actually thought
I would achieve it, to be honest.

And when I was in that room
and they said that.

Like it was such a bigger moment
than just me

because as a Black woman
in an all-white

industry. It wasn't just a win for me,
that was a win

-for every...
-Mm-hmm.

...Black woman that has felt
like they didn't really have a place

in this world. It was for every
woman in the LGBTQIA+ community,

all the people that have felt unseen,
that's what that award means.

So, for my name to have been called...
To be called and...

it was like they see me,
and they see us now.

-Hmm, oh, "See us now."
-That's so important.

I know, and that says
a lot about your character.

-Yeah.
-ROBIN: That it wasn't

just thinking about yourself,

but thinking about everyone
that you named there.

ROBIN: Was there a point in your career...
'Cause early on when we're all younger,

-you take whatever comes your way...
-Oh!

...you don't dare wanna be disruptive

-when you're really, really young.
-Disruptive?

-You're just happy to have a job.
-MICKEY: Mm-hmm.

-Totally.
-JAMIE: I mean...

-I mean, let's just be really clear here.
-That's true.

You don't wanna be difficult.

-I mean, I had done things...
-BILLIE: Ah, so girly.

...prior to Halloween,
but when I got that script,

and every single page
had my character’s name on it.

Are you kidding? It didn't matter.
I had no concept of really what it was?

I just saw "Laurie, Laurie, Laurie."
I had been on a TV show prior to that,

with five women and every scene,
we each got, like, one line.

-So, it was just never a chance...
-Hmm.

...to do anything.

So, for me,
it just was the opportunity of a lifetime.

But then there came a point where you...

-JAMIE: Yes.
-...spoke up.

-And you said, "No."
-Well, I didn't speak up.

What I understood,
because I was raised around show business,

so I understood that there was a point
that if I didn't stop those movies

that I might not get another opportunity
to do something else.

And you have to, at that point,
make a conscious decision.

And by the way,
it wasn't like I had another job,

I simply said, "You know what?
I think I've done enough."

And within a month,
I was cast in Trading Places.

-Wow! Snap there for you, honey.
-Yeah! Yeah!

Actually, for the first time in my life,
I think I actually trusted myself enough

to think, "I'm gonna...
I... I actually think maybe,

maybe I can do something else."

And very quickly was able to do so.

I have a question for you.

Because when I found out...
I've got a confession first,

and then a question.

When I found out I was pregnant,
I found out three days

after I had released this song
"Black Like Me" on Blackout Tuesday.

-Oh, wow.
-And it was one of those things

that I was scared
that a baby was gonna ruin my career.

-[BILLIE GASPS]
-MICKEY: I have to be honest with that.

-And I was really...
-JAMIE: Hmm.

...really terrified about that,
and I had to reprogram my mind

to realize, like, that women,

we can have, and deserve to have,
our families and careers too,

that it doesn't stop.

And my question is for you,
when you were this young mother,

and this actress and all that,
when you were pregnant with your daughter,

did you ever face those fears?
'Cause I felt, really, really bad

-about feeling like that.
-JAMIE: Well, so,

I actually adopted both
of my children at birth.

-MICKEY: Wow.
-But...

The amount...

I will tell you, I did, a movie,
A Fish Called Wanda.

Mm-hmm.

-it was a great opportunity.
-MICKEY: Yeah.

-John Cleese wrote this part for me.
-MICKEY: Mm-hmm, yeah.

-My daughter, Annie, was six months old.
-Wow.

And we came to London, hired a nanny,
and the set we were working on,

was an hour outside of London.

So, that meant an hour
in the car each way,

that's two hours in the car,

-and I had a six-month-old baby.
-Wow.

And, from the first day I got in that car,
first day, I start crying.

And I will tell you,
I cried every single day

on the way to work and on the way back,
because it is a complicated dance.

-Children need you.
-MICKEY: They do.

-They want you. By the way...
-MICKEY: Yeah.

...a baby just wants you.
And if you're breastfeeding,

-a baby really just wants you.
-[ALL CHUCKLE]

-ROBIN: Yeah, right!
-You know, I used to say to my kids,

"Oh, you know, mommy has to go to work."
It's like, mommy gets to go to work.

There are so many mommies

-who don't have work.
-MICKEY: Mm-hmm.

-JAMIE: And it's a privilege to work.
-Yeah.

And by the way, children can feel sad
that mommy is working...

-ROBIN: Mm-hmm.
-...but mommy is working

to put food on the table,
and to take care of the family unit.

-And that there's so much positivity...
-MICKEY: Mm-hmm.

...behind the word,
"Get to" rather than "Have to,"

-which becomes obligatory and negative.
-ROBIN: Yeah.

-Mm-hmm.
-Motherhood is such a beautiful thing,

that something that was supposed
to be such a special moment for me,

I was terrified. I was scared to even

-let anybody know initially.
-Hmm...

See, what you said about
now other people will feel

-the courage to be able to say, "I too."
-Yeah. Yeah.

Like the reason
we have this privileged moment

of the four of us sitting here,
staring at Billie Jean King, is...

-[ALL LAUGHING]
-JAMIE: But ultimately,

if we've shared something,
anything here...

in as the tables turn,
which is a very good soap opera title.

-Oh, hey. Hey! Trademark, trademark!
-I know, sorry. Okay, sorry.

But ultimately if that happens,
if one woman...

-Yeah.
-...who just found out they were pregnant

heard you say that, you see,
that's the reason we're here...

-Yeah.
-...is to connect,

to make people understand,
to be able to give people permission

to feel what they're feeling.
And that's the beauty of it.

-Yeah.
-JAMIE: And so, I think,

what you just said is profound.

-It's profound.
-Yeah. Thank you.

You're just a born leader,
I hate to tell you.

You don't even know it,

-which is even better.
-ROBIN: You can feel that?

-Isn't she... I mean, it's amazing.
-Yeah, you can feel that.

-BILLIE: How you think. You're so mature.
-Thank you.

I think we should make a much bigger deal
out of status with men

-who are good husbands and good fathers.
-MICKEY: Yeah.

-And my dad was a great father.
-MICKEY: Mine, too.

-Mine, too.
-Was yours?

Mine was a really good dad.

Meh.

[ALL LAUGH]

Aw, cheap shot, he's dead.
I'm sorry. Cheap shot.

-No, but you can say whatever you...
-I'm saying it's a cheap shot.

But you know,
there's dysfunction running every place.

And we're lucky. I had two parents.
Most kids...

A lot of kids
only have a single parent.

And that's another reason
we need equal pay, for equal work.

Preach.

-BILLIE: Okay I...
-Oh, big time.

I'm so big on money
and I want women to follow the money.

-I want them to be ambitious.
-Don't accept the crumbs.

Do not! I want women
to believe in themselves,

just like guys are taught.
And then that's a whole 'nother, you know,

women are taught to be perfect,
and boys are taught to be brave.

-Mm-hmm.
-Which gets me crazy.

It's not fair to them
to be brave all the time,

and no one's perfect.

That's why women
have such low self-esteem,

we're taught to be perfect all the time.

ROBIN: The phrase, lady-like.

-What is that? What is... what is that?
-What is that? Exactly.

You like... you like... What do you like?
Not lady-like.

-You like human-like, right?
-JAMIE: Human-like. Yes, thank you.

-These are all old ideas.
-BILLIE: But we need to change

Well, but, by the way, we are.
I mean, I do...

Look at the gender fluidity

-that is starting to...
-That's true. Gender is finally...

-We're not binary anymore, thank God.
-Right.

It's a non-binary world.
But it takes us, older folk,

-many of us...
-[EXHALES DEEPLY]

...a lot longer to understand that

and to learn new pronouns,
and that's okay. We can learn.

We're human beings,
we have brains to learn.

What Jamie's saying is so true,
and I think we're getting away from it.

But there's nothing that's not lady-like,
I know what you were saying,

lady-like is being...

-Well, you finish the sentence...
-MICKEY: Yeah.

-what lady-like is?
-MICKEY: Yeah.

Like what you have done is lady-like.
How you have dominated an industry

that didn't expect,
and didn't want you there,

-and didn't want who you are.
-Hmm.

And you went through there,
and completely redefined what that is.

And I think that that could...
If we had to use the term, "Lady-like,"

it is us right now.

Well, that's a very positive way
to look at it.

-I'm trying, I'm trying.
-BILLIE: No, I'm loving it.

No I wanna get... Your generation matters
'cause you're younger.

-Yeah.
-BILLIE: And I wanna know

-what you're feeling and thinking?
-MICKEY: Yeah.

'Cause it's very important.

-Well, it's...
-You are the future. You are.

The future is women.

Was there a moment for you, Jamie,
where you just had that kinda, like, "Huh!

"I think I'm really being heard,
and seen and I got this"?

-Yeah.
-[MICKEY CHUCKLING]

[JAMIE CLEARS THROAT]

For me, creatively, I've had...

kind of a big transformation,

since I turned 60. But none of it
would've happened if I wasn't sober.

For me to acknowledge that,
to say that out loud,

to be able to risk...

that embarrassment,
it was so shameful to me.

-And I was so terrific that it felt so...
-ROBIN: Where were you?

-...it felt just so embarrassing to me.
-What felt embarrassing?

Just being human.

-Wow.
-And that I'd been hiding it.

And, and...

that for me, the freedom that has come
from being a sober woman

is so much bigger
than any creative experience

that I have had, will have,
continue to have, which is happening.

So, I've been sober 22 years.

And so for me, without question,
as long as I'm breathing,

the single greatest accomplishment
I will ever do in my life

is arresting
a generational illness in my family.

And so for me,
that's the beauty of recovery,

is those... Those old idea, new idea,

-turning tables on those old ideas...
-And the new ideas.

-Oh, my God! So good! Oh, my God!
-It just comes to you.

That just was amazing!

-All right, Billie Jean King, follow that!
-BILLIE: Oh, my God.

[MICKEY LAUGHING]

-JAMIE: Game, set, match!
-Do I really have to follow that?

-Yes, you do.
-ROBIN: Well, I have a few things.

-JAMIE: Yes, you do.
-I guess if we're in this mode,

I'll go to my mode.

I have an eating disorder.

-Hmm...
-And I was always, keeping my...

struggle of my sexuality secret.
And secrets don't work, as you said.

-Yeah.
-BILLIE: They just don't work.

I was outed in 1981.

I'd had an affair with a woman,
Marilyn Barnett,

and I'll never forget my lawyer...

and my PR person, my publicist,

telling me not to do anything,
not to say anything,

and I argued with them...

for about a day and a half.
I argued and argued

and said, "No, I want you to get
a media conference together,

"I'm going to tell the truth."

"You can't do that."

-I said, "I have to do that."
-ROBIN: Mm-hmm.

Hmm...

-I have to do it.
-One thing my parents told me

was to tell the truth.
And one of my challenges

is that my parents are h*m*.

-MICKEY: Mm-hmm.
-Of all the wonderful ways about them,

they're h*m*.

-Wow.
-And it's only 'cause they're brought up

-that way, all of us were.
-MICKEY: Hmm...

And... [SIGHS] ...during the time
I've been struggling, during on the tour,

they said, "If you talk about this,
we will not have a tour."

Hmm.

-So, I've got double whammy going on.
-It's a lot of pressure,

-putting a lot of pressure on you.
-Got mom, dad challenges,

I've got...
And I can't really talk about it,

even g*y people
didn't talk about in those days,

which I don't think
that anyone understands now,

-you know, but...
-JAMIE: Mm-hmm.

...when I was outed by telling the truth,

I lost all my endorsements overnight,

within 24 hours, lost everything.
As far as...

I didn't lose everything, I lost money,

-but I didn't lose everything. In fact...
-You didn't lose yourself.

-...I found myself. And I finally...
-Whoo!

But I didn't go
to the eating disorder place

-until '95, I was outed in '81.
-Wow.

-So, I didn't feel comfortable...
-Woah!

...in my own skin until I was 51.

-MICKEY: Wow.
-Fifty-one, I finally went...

[BREATHES DEEPLY]

I could exhale, and finally...
Okay, I'm truthful,

-I don't care anymore...
-ROBIN: Yeah.

...what people think, feel.

And if I've helped one or more persons
to find their authentic self,

and to accept themselves,
then it's been worth it.

-But I'm telling you, it was rough.
-MICKEY: You're helping 'em right now.

-You're helping 'em right now.
-Thank y'all for sharing.

It was really rough. It's really great
to say I'm a g*y woman, you know,

-like, okay, that's who I am.
-It's a beautiful thing.

I don't like l*sbian. I like g*y,
'cause it's happy, happy, happy.

-I don't know, it's...
-Yeah.

-Does that make sense?
-JAMIE: I love you so much.

-I love you so much.
-I love you, too.

-JAMIE: Oh, my God.
-Thank you for sharing. I love you.

-This was beautiful. This was really cool.
-MICKEY: It really was.

This was really... And this is like...

-It's... I don't know what it is...
-No, I'm gonna... I'm gonna stop you.

I would like to hear you
answer that question.

MICKEY: Yes!

-I would actually like to hear you answer.
-What is the question?

The question is, when did you know?
When was that moment

that turned the tables of your life?

-I don't know that it has yet.
-MICKEY: Wow.

-Wow.
-Really?

-I don't mean that in a bad way.
-BILLIE: No, I hear you.

-I just...
-I totally hear you.

There's so many things that I could say...

and not that I'm trying
to hold anything back...

-No, no.
-...but only because I just feel,

I haven't tapped in... I just turned 60.
And I'm kinda like you,

it's really starting to happen.

-I'm kinda like, whoa!
-JAMIE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's that hourglass.
There's a lot of sand that's out.

-There's still a lot of sand in there.
-Yeah, but... Yeah.

And it has really
made me be very reflective.

I thought when my parents passed,
that I would not exist.

That's how close...

-MICKEY: Whoo.
-ROBIN: Yeah.

-Yeah, you were really close, I know.
-Very, very close to both of them.

And so when they passed,
especially my mother,

who passed during my last illness.

And to have her, you know...
I actually... Okay.

I think... I think
this was the moment now.

I was supposed to have a...

Scheduled to have
my bone marrow transplant.

-Mm-hmm.
-My mother had a stroke...

[CLEARS THROAT]
...couple months before that.

But she was recovering.

My sister, Sally-Ann,
who was gonna be my donor,

had her stem cells collected,
everything was a go.

My sister... Other sister calls and says,
"Mom's taken a turn, you gotta get home."

So my sister and I fly home,
put my transplant on hold.

We get home, and Mama's home,
and the doctor's like,

"She could last like this.
We have no idea."

And I said,
"Well, I'm not gonna have the transplant."

-Because when I do, I can't be...
-I know.

You have to be in isolation for a period
of time and if Mama passes away,

I can't be there for her homegoing,
that's just not... that's not an option.

And so I'm sitting in the room,
and my mother's in the bed,

I'm talking to the caregiver,
who's telling me these stories

about my mother
that only my mother could tell her,

but my mother could barely speak
because she had a stroke.

And I'm, like, going,
so I know that she...

So, she said, "You might wanna stay here

"cause your mother
sometimes becomes lucid,"

so I'm like, "Okay, I'll stay."
And so, this woman was saying,

"You know, your mother didn't know
if she did a good job with you kids."

And I was like, "Are you kidding me?"
I'm like, she didn't have cookies

waiting for us but she was a great mother,
and I was saying all these things and...

It's like, right when I finished
talking about how she was as a mother,

-she took her last breath.
-MICKEY: Wow.

And I got out... and I got up,
and I was holding her hand,

and she took her last breath.

And I had been dreading all these years
that I was gonna get the call

from my siblings, saying, "Mom died."
And I was the one calling my siblings.

And there was like this transfer
of spirit and power.

It was the oddest thing.
It's like... And more and more people,

some of my mom's friends
when they hear me and they say,

"My gosh, you look just... You sound
just... You're doing just like..."

And I really feel that,
that is kind of what has led me

to where I am right now

and me knowing that as good as it is,
and as grateful as I am,

there is just more that I want.
I believe in the prayer of Jabez,

"Increase my territory,
so I can do more good."

I don't want good for myself,
I want to be able to create more good.

-So, that's what I...
-JAMIE: How soon after she passed

-did you have your transplant?
-I had it a week later.

And that's when... And part of my...
the eulogy, my family said,

my mom gave me the last great gift
she gave me,

'cause she knew that I wouldn't go,
and have my transplant.

So she went

-where she could watch over me...
-MICKEY: Wow.

-and not have to worry about her...
-Wow.

-and she didn't have to worry about me.
-MICKEY: Wow.

-And it was like her last gift.
-So sweet.

Because the doctor said
she could've lasted that way for,

who knows. And I probably wouldn't be here
'cause I wouldn't have had the transplant.

-MICKEY: Wow.
-Yeah.

So it's just like, a mother's love.

-JAMIE: Yeah.
-ROBIN: Yeah.

-So...
-BILLIE: Thank you. Thank you.

-[ALL LAUGHING]
-[ROBIN EXHALES DEEPLY]

-Okay.
-Good luck, editors.

-I have nothing left.
-By the way...

You're such a pretty crier, too.

-Thank you for asking.
-Well...

Thank you 'cause I don't really
take time to really think like that.

-JAMIE: No.
-I'm one to ask and...

-And yes.
-Is it think or feel?

-Both. Damn!
-BILLIE: Both.

Could you all stop? I can't take any more.

My girl!

-We've had lots of therapy. Can you tell?
-I just thank you guys for being seen.

I'm gonna get emotional.
I'm pregnant, so sorry.

But everything that y'all did
in your industries,

and daring to be seen
and daring to be heard

and daring to stand up for yourselves,

and I wouldn't be here
if it weren't for you guys.

-Thank you, Mickey. Thank you.
-JAMIE: Thank you.

-I mean that.
-Beautiful!

This is why
I have faith in the future, right here.

Now and the future.
Not just the future.

This was such a beautiful moment.
Like, I'm so overwhelmed.

Hey, listen, if you wanna give birth
right now, then I guarantee you...

Oh, no!

[THEME MUSIC PLAYING]

-MICKEY: Oh, my God, it's a bee.
-JAMIE: Is that a real bee?

-MICKEY: It's a bee!
-Let's get a bee. Hold on, I'll get it.

-JAMIE: I'll get it.
-BILLIE: It touched my lips.

-No! It's there again.
-JAMIE: Hold on.

-It's there again.
-JAMIE: Hold on, I'll take him.

-No!
-JAMIE: No, no, no, just relax.

Come here, bee, come on!

-Aw!
-Come on, come on.

Come on. Come on.

-JAMIE: Come on.
-You're the bee whisperer.

-You did it!
-Isn't she amazing?

I think the bee helped
'cause I was getting ready

to start crying.