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02x18 - Reunion (2)

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Below Deck Sailing Yacht". Aired: February 3, 2020 –present.*
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The series chronicles the lives of the crew members who work and reside aboard a 177-foot (54 meter) sailing yacht during charter seasons.

02x18 - Reunion (2)

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[Andy] Tonight part two of the Below Deck
Sailing Yacht Reunion...

We are having a baby.

****! ****!

[clapping]

I cannot believe what I've seen

and I have yet to hear
an apology from you.

It didn't have to happen that way,
but it did and I hate it.

Gary had a girlfriend

when he came on board
and Sydney slept with him.

Dani, everybody wants to know,
is JL the father of your baby?

-Well...
-Incredibly disgusting

that he won't even acknowledge
the situation.

JL, shall I say, does not have a spine.

I wish he was here to defend himself
or to say what he thinks.

Jean-Luc couldn't join us,
so we tracked him down

and he's here with us now.

If that is my child.

I want everything, and anything to do

with that child's life.

Welcome back to part two of

the Below Deck Sailing Yacht Reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen, joined by
the Parsifal III crew:

Captain Glenn, Daisy,
Gary, Natasha, Colin,

Sydney, Alli, and Dani.

Gary, Melanie, Jay, Facebook,

why do you and Alli always flirt
and make out in front of Sydney

and then can't understand
why she's so upset?


[Gary] Alli, same as what happened.

It was a weird situation.

You had feelings for me.
I had feelings for Alli.

Alli didn't have feelings for me.

-It was like a domino effect...
-Yes, I did.

...that wasn't going anywhere.
No, but not in that way.

But when you broke up with me,
it was just like, this can't happen.

And it was just, you know,
it was a weird situation.

That wasn't easy for me.
Are you actually saying this?

That was not easy for me.
That was really hard for me.

And it was really awkward
working with you every day.

That's not fair to say
that I didn't have feelings for you.

And you know that that's not true.

-No, no, I do know that's not true.
-You know that.

But I think I felt a bit more
for you, yeah, anyway.

-We've worked through this.
-I was just trying to do the right thing.

And I was the only one who seems
to be trying because no one else

seemed to have any respect
in this situation except for me.

I tried my best to navigate

-a really awkward situation.
-[Gary] I take my hat off for you.

And that's what I said to you
for you looking for Sydney's...

I wouldn't say condolences,

but you were wondering
why was Sydney upset

and you keep asking,
"Are you okay with me doing this?"

And she said, "Yeah, I don't care."

And you didn't know the whole story

and you actually, honestly,
worried about her feelings.

She kept having digs at me

-so obviously she wasn't okay.
-Yeah, I know, but you were...

So I kept trying to check in I'm like...

I wasn't trying to get her okay.

I was trying to make sure
that I wasn't hurting someone

because I'm a human being
and I have compassion.

[Andy] Alli, Lori S. wants to know
if you feel like

you broke girl code hooking up
with Gary in Sydney's face.

Why not wait until the season was over?

No, I have my reasons for why
I don't feel like I broke

-the girl code.
-What are they?

[Gary] Go, Alli, go.

Um, why don't we ask Sydney?

Sydney, do you know
why she didn't break girl code?

No, I'm not really sure
why Alli saying that in particular.

All I know is that, like,
things that happened in the season

and things that I said were not indicative

of who I am and I'm very...

upset about the way
that I portrayed myself

because I was hurting

and feeling rejected
on national television,

I was jealous
about being rejected by somebody

that I had feelings for.

I told myself I wouldn't get emotional.

It's not a big deal and like everybody

has those feelings,
everybody gets jealous.

Everybody has insecurities.
And I felt that.

And I... it's not an excuse
for what I said...

but I felt those things
and I lashed out

and I hate myself for it.

And that's the only thing I can think

that Alli would think
is breaking girl code.

-And I'm so sorry for it.
-No. That's not it. That's not it.

-Oh, that's not it.
-I'm sorry.

That's not it. That's not it.

I mean, I don't know why
everyone's just sleeping over the fact

that Gary had a girlfriend
when he came on board

and Sydney slept with him,
a long-term girlfriend.

So there, I've said it.

So that is why you were not
breaking girl code?

I did everything I could
to be respectful in a situation,

but at the end of the day,
when you sleep with someone,

when they're in a relationship,

I feel like that that kind of voids

you being able to treat me
the way you treated me.

I'm like so hurt with what I've seen,

Sydney, I cannot believe what I've seen.

And I have yet to hear
an apology from you.

I have yet to hear any sincerity from you.

You only have cared
about how you've looked on TV.

You haven't like one on one
tried to contact me and say,

I'm so sorry for the things that I said.

You really hurt my feelings. [sighs]

-[Andy] Sydney, what's your response?
-I'm really, like, emotional about it.

Sydney, what's your response?

Do you feel you owe her an apology?

Of course, and I thought that
what I just said was an apology.

No, I haven't tried to reach out
to Alli one on one. Um...

mostly just because
I've been trying to deal with this

in my own way
and I've been dealing with a lot of...

personal trauma
with like realizing who I am...

and trying to figure out
how to navigate myself in this,

and I haven't known
how to reach out to Alli.

And I thought now would be the best way.
I should've reached out to her before.

-On TV, it just seems so insincere.
-Cellphone.

[Alli] It's so insincere
and that's why I'm still so upset.

I've just freshly seeing
so much stuff on the episodes.

And I'm like gutted.

I'm gutted with the things that I've seen.

It's you... You kind of embarrassed me.

And I feel like
you've embarrassed yourself.

And I know that you know
that I don't want to...

I'm not trying to hurt you.
I'm not trying to rub it in.

But you... If you were sincere
about this apology,

you would have said it to me one on one

you wouldn't have waited to hear
on the reunion show.

Gary, did you have a girlfriend
when you came on the boat?

You know,
now that it's come out, yes, I did.

We were in
a very complicated relationship.

I hadn't seen her for eight months
prior to me coming on the show.

The fact that I was in a relationship,

yes, I was. If you want to go
put that label on it, for sure.

Not seeing someone
for eight months and growing apart

for those eight months nonstop,
do we put a label on that?

No, we only look
at the negative things that, yes,

I had a "girlfriend" and I did what I did

was that's the only regret
I've got in life was doing what I did.

We see your perspective.
We don't see her perspective.

So don't say,
if you want to see it like,

I didn't see her for eight months.

I mean, maybe you're right.

But from her perspective,
she might have seen

your relationship different.

So, Gary, did you break up
at all during the charter?

I mean, were you still "together"

-as the whole charter away.
-No.

After what happened with Sydney
and I, I had to let her know.

And the hardest thing was

I hadn't spoken to her, ****,
I don't know, maybe...

Maybe two weeks prior to that, I'd say.

And then that was the news
that I had to tell her.

But I couldn't live with myself
for knowing what I'd done.

Well, initially, I sent her a message
saying I kissed my deckhand

and hoping that she would think
my deckhand was a dude.

But, no, I mean, I thought it was okay.

-No...
-Nice try.

[Gary] I couldn't, yeah,
I couldn't live with myself.

Why have a girlfriend
if you're not going to be

able to be with them 24/7?

And clearly, I wasn't
that type of person for her

and I proved it
in the completely wrong way.

And, yeah, I had to let her know.

You could have saved
a lot of people a lot of drama

if you just hooked up
with JL that first night.

I don't have a stepladder
on board, unfortunately.

[Andy] Sydney, are you seeing
anybody now?

Yes, I have a partner that I've been with
for about five months now.

And what's his reaction to the show?

You know, my partner knows
that it's in the past

and that's that and...

You know, I've come to...

I work with him on a new boat now.

He's the captain and we work together.

And he doesn't...

He's not the biggest fan
of the show, obviously,

it's never easy to see the person

that you have strong feelings for,

um, having intimate relations
with other people,

-you know, in front of the nation.
-Yes, I can imagine.

[Andy] Yes, yes.

But, you know, he's supportive of me
and he cares about me.

And he's there
to have my back no matter what.

Wow, and Alli, are you seeing
anybody these days?

Yes, I have a boyfriend.

We are just about to move in together.

I'm finally signing a lease
for a house for the first time

in a long time
and going to live the land life.

That's great. Any other updates with you?

Um, yeah.

Yes, we are having a baby.

-[whooping]
-****! ****!

Congrats!

We are having a baby.

-[Andy] Congrats!
-[clapping]

[Andy] How far along are you?

-I'm 20 weeks.
-Wow.

Yeah.

-That is very exciting.
-Yeah.

It's a very exciting,
it's scary, but exciting.

-Very fertile crew, Captain Glenn.
-We are.

So Dani and I are pregnant
at the same time.

-It's so cool.
-[Andy] Very sweet.

Gary, did you know about this?

-What, about Alli's pregnancy?
-[Andy] Yes.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't.

-What's your reaction?
-She didn't tell me that at all.

-What's your reaction?
-I'm happy for her.

She told me when I spoke to her
that her boyfriend

treats her well
and treats like a princess.

And at the end of the day,
as long as Alli's happy,

I'm happy.

So as long as he treats her well
and she's as happy as she says she is,

then by all means, congratulations, Alli.

I wish you many happy years together.

And I'm sure your kids
will be ******* amazing.

They've got a mother like you.
Of course, they will so.

Thank you.

I wanted to ask about the crossing.

You know, the season ended
on sort of a cliffhanger.

There was this crossing.

What happened on the crossing? How was it?

I mean, Gary, did you and Alli

rekindle your relationship
during the crossing?

Yeah, actually, that's where
we built our relationship up.

And we actually, I would say,
became a couple,

if I can say that, Alli, for the crossing.

And until we got to Palma,
basically until she left to Australia,

which it was inevitable
that she was always leaving to Australia.

So I think in both of our minds,
in the back of our minds,

we knew it could never
seriously work because of that,

regardless of the great chemistry

and the ability to make
each other laugh endlessly

and also finish each other's...

-No, clearly not, sentences,...
-Sentences.

...but there we go, yeah.

And do that.

-Wonk, wonk.
-[laughs]

Colin, Tricia P. wants to know

if your opinion of Gary
changed at all after he told you

he just wanted to have sex with Sydney

-to get Alli's attention.
-No.

I mean, Gary's a really good friend.

We became such good mates

and he didn't really want
to take any of my advice.

So I was kind of wasting my breath
in the end there a little bit,

but he's my boy.

We're still good mates.
You all right there, Daisy?

Sorry.

She's like every drunk...

Maybe don't have any more wine!

Wine!

You're doing... That's Erica. That's good.

Colin, Lauren B. wants to know
if you think

Gary would have been a better manager

if he wasn't distracted
with this love triangle all season.

I think Gary was a great manager
and I think Glenn said it pretty clearly.

And I completely agree with him that Gary,

in terms of the professionalism,
was exceptional.

Alli, Jono said after everything
that happened with Gary,

why were you kissing him
during the last charter?

I still had feelings for him
and I made a poor decision

and forgave something
that I shouldn't have forgiven.

Alli, do you and Sydney
feel like you had closure today?

I don't think so.

-[Andy] You don't.
-No, sorry.

Sydney, do you?

I think that, you know,
with mine and Alli's complicated

time on board Parsifal

that we're never really going
to have a complete closure.

I think there's been a lot that's happened
between the two of us

that can't necessarily
be resolved over one zoom call,

I think it needs much more than that

to what could have been
a beautiful friendship.

And I am very sorry

that it hasn't been
what it should have been

considering Alli and I could've been
the best of friends,

but just the way things played,

it wasn't in the cards for us and...

it's quite remarkable
'cause I think Alli is a beautiful soul

and I think she has a good heart

and I'm very regretful
for the way things have played out.

Yeah, I don't think
you're a bad person at all, Sydney.

I just don't like things that went down.

But I definitely don't think
you're a bad person.

I know you. I can see in your face...

I don't like the way things
went down either, believe me,

I wish they hadn't.

Well, I think you're both in agreement.

We will leave it there.

Everybody love everybody.
Everyone, I love everyone.

[Natasha] Well, not quite everybody.

[Glenn] Amazing...

Gary, you don't talk to me
so that's a whole 'nother ****.

How many bottles of wine
have you had at this point, Daisy?

[laughter]

-Is it...
-That's a good question.

Is it more than two?

Andy, stop being jealous.

It's about two.

Stop being jealous.

We are back with the Below Deck
Sailing Yacht Reunion.


I'm Andy Cohen
joined by Captain Glenn, Daisy,

Gary, Natasha, Colin,
Sydney, Alli, and Dani.

Despite an age difference,
height difference,

and a harrowing STD scare,
it was only chafing,

Dani and JL found love this season,

even if they had trouble finding a bed

that could fit both of them. Let's watch.

JL, I dare you to kiss Dani.

[all] Yeah!

I could definitely make out
with her again, that's for sure.

I'm not sure how this height
difference is going to work,

but I'm looking forward to find out.

I want the very best for you so much.

-Why can't I be with you?
-I want to have babies.

I want to get married.
Let's have sex tonight.

And if I get pregnant, that's God's will.

[Dani moans]

All right, so, Dani,

by the way, congratulations again
on your pregnancy.

-How are you feeling?
-Thank you.

I'm very happy being a mom, you know,

obviously, I didn't plan this,

but I'm happy with, you know, with, yeah.

We saw you and JL

leave the boat together in the finale,
what happened next?

Did you guys hang out after

or how did you... how did... What happened?

Well, we did hang out for a couple days.

But it was never really...
I kept trying to tell him

the whole season
that it wouldn't really ever work like

I was coming to Australia,
he was going to America.

I was not going to move from Australia
to go anywhere else for him.

And I wouldn't ask him
to move to Australia for me.

And I just kept trying to convince him
that this wouldn't work.

And he kept the whole season

trying to convince me
that this would work.

And what's your relationship status today?

-I am single.
-You're single.

Well, Alli W. wants to know
if any of the rest of you

are surprised
how this all turned out for Dani.

I was shocked.

I... It took me a few days to digest,
I'm not going to lie.

It was hard.

Wow, Dani, everybody wants to know...

is JL the father of your baby?

Well, let's put it this way,
this baby was made during the season

while we had cameras 24/7 with us

and I only slept with one guy, so...

[Andy] What is his reaction
to the pregnancy then?

He hasn't support me, at all, in any way.

He thinks it's not his child
and he doesn't want

to have anything to do with it.

Wow, Dani, what have
your conversations been like

with JL and are you in touch

with anyone else in his family or...?

So from the beginning, Andy,

I found out I was pregnant when I was
in quarantine in Sydney.

So as soon as I got to Australia,
I found it out.

I was alone there.

And I told him and he was obviously
a bit shocked and everything,

but he was... He seemed supportive.

He told me he would support me,
whatever I decided to do.

So he was supportive in the beginning.

And then it just changed
like around December.

Things just changed and he was
just not interested anymore.

And, yeah, and then on the 1st
of January, New Year's,

I get a message saying,
"Don't go around telling people.

I mean, I'm the dad of this child

and I want a DNA test."

And I have all the messages,

all the receipts to say
that I said, "Okay,

you want a DNA test, let's do it.

And but I will only do it
if you organize and you pay first."

Because it's quite expensive
and it's contribution.

And if he was interested
in doing that, he would do it.

And he hasn't... Haven't done anything.

I ask him again, but since January,

he asked about the baby
like twice or three times,

like, and his mom made
a horrible comment online.

And since then
I just literally have zero interest

in having their family
involved in my child's life.

She made a horrible comment online
about you?

Yeah, she comments on...

somebody's comment on his pictures saying
that it was very gross

that he would abandon
the mother of his child,

and she comments that
"Gross was a woman who uses a man

because she's so desperate to be a mom."

[Andy] Wow.

Welcome back to the Below Deck
Sailing Yacht Reunion.


It's Andy Cohen with the g*ng
from Parsifal III.

Dani, what have your
conversations been like with JL

and are you in touch with anyone
else in his family or...?

His mom made a horrible comment online

and since then I just literally
have zero interest

in having that family
involved in my child's life.

She made a horrible comment
online about you?

Yeah, she comments on...

Somebody commented on his pictures
saying that it was very gross

that he would abandon
the mother of his child.

And she commented that "Gross
was a woman who uses a man

because she's so desperate to be a mom."

Wow. I'm so sorry.

Thanks, Andy, I've been
getting some comments

really mean comments
from people saying, like how,

"Well, you knew he didn't want
to be involved.

You should just have had an ab*rtion."

And I just want to say
that I'm very pro-choice.

I think people should do...

Women should do whatever
they think is best for them.

But for me,
I just wouldn't be able to do that.

Obviously, I say during the whole season

that I want to be a mom and a family,
but I wanted a family.

That was my plan. That was my vision.

I would not choose
to move to a new country

where I don't know anybody
to have a child with a 24-year-old boy

that I barely knew.

So I did not choose that.
I did not plan that.

But I'm just going with it now

and I'm sure
my little baby girl is going to be...

you know, yeah,

she's going to be amazing

and I will do my best every day
to give her everything she needs.

And it's a girl
which is very exciting to hear

and, you know, listen,

this girl is going to come
into a world where she is very loved

and you're going to be an incredible mom.

You want her, you're waiting for her,

and you're going to be great.

Thanks, Andy. I appreciate that.

I'm very happy it's a little girl

because I wouldn't know
what to do with a boy.

So, yeah.

Alli, what's your reaction to that?

I've known this for a while.

So I've been talking to Dani
almost every day.

I've been hearing her struggles.
She's working so hard.

She's doing 12-hour days.
She's on her feet.

She is trying to get herself prepared
as best as she can.

She's been so amazing.

And it's just incredibly

disgusting and frustrating

that he won't even acknowledge
the situation.

So my heart breaks for Dani,

but she's so strong and I know

that she can do this without him
and she will be better off.

Gary, what's your reaction to this?

I just I feel people or JL, shall I say,

does not have a spine.

And for the little respect
that I had for him,

I mean,
that's gone out the window.

I mean, he's got something beautiful
coming into this world.

And the fact that he doesn't want
anything to do with it,

I just cannot fathom that at all.

And Dani, I know you're going
to be the best mom ever.

I had a dad that could have been there
that he chose not to be there.

And that's one thing I've learned in life
is to not be like that.

And this is a prime example on that.
And...

And... grow a spine.

-That's I don't really want to say...
-Thanks, Gary.

-Really I don't want to say how I...
-I just want to say as well that

I wish he was on this reunion
because I'm not...

I don't want to... And I'm just
telling my side of the story

and I wish he was here to defend himself
or to say what he thinks,

because as much as everything he did,

I don't think it is as fair
that I'm just saying all this

-and he's not being able to say anything.
-[Andy] Right.

You didn't come here with...
And to be fair to you,

you didn't come here with an ax to grind.

You didn't come here with a b*mb to drop.

You're answering my questions honestly

and... that's it.

I feel for you, Dani. I feel for you hard.

[Andy] Very good. Any final thoughts

that anyone wants to say
before we leave you?

I mean, these guys are amazing.

I had a great time with these guys.

You know, there was
some stuff going on there,

some conflict, there was some indecision.

But the positive energy in this crew,
this season, was amazing.

I wasn't disappointed.

[Andy] We will leave things there.

I want to thank the crew
for joining me from around the world

and for an incredible season.

Dani, Alli, congratulations to you both.

Can't wait to see pictures of your babies.

You're both going to be the greatest moms.

Thank you so much.

Welcome back to the Below Deck
Sailing Yacht Reunion.


As you know, Jean-Luc couldn't join us,

so we tracked him down
and he's here with us now.

How are we doing, Andy? How's it going?

Great. So why were you unable
to join us at the reunion taping?

So that was really unfortunate.

I did want to be there,
but I had a charter

and it was
our primary's daughter's birthday.

So basically one of the biggest days
of the whole charter

that I could not take time off for.

-I just couldn't.
-Right.

What was the biggest professional lesson

that you learned this year on the show?

Biggest professional lesson.

Do not get intimate with any of the crew.

Right. What would you say

the status of your relationship
with Dani is today?

Today, I would say the status
of my relationship with Dani

is kind of a little uncertain.

We definitely talk
a little bit back and forth,

not as much as we probably should.

But yeah, it's just...
There's some things that are,

you know, to be questioned.

And she has questions for me
and I have questions for her.

And, you know, we're trying to be adults

about this whole entire process
and figure it out.

Well, you know, a lot of viewers
have been asking

whether you're the father of Dani's baby.

What do you say to that?

[sighs]

Man, you're going to make me
do this now, aren't you?

I asked for a paternity test

and essentially that turned
into a lot of backlash

and her not wanting to hear from me

and, essentially, not having
to do anything with me,

but for me as a 24-year-old
at the time, you know,

with not much experience
at all in a relationship

and a woman telling me
that she's pregnant,

I feel like that that's a very
understandable question

to ask in any situation.

And she took it very poorly.

And I understand why she took it poorly,

because, you know, in her mind,

I might be the only person
that she's ever been with.

And if that's the case, I told her,

I really do apologize
but for my peace of mind,

I just wanted to know
and I told her that if this is my child,

I want to be a part of that child's life
every single day as much as I can

-for the rest of her little life...
-You do?

-...or his life.
-If you find out...

****! Absolutely. The people.

Hold on. I'm sorry, because now
I'm gonna start getting emotional.

The fact that people...
I don't know where this came from

or what source this was from,

the fact that people are telling me

that I want nothing to do with this child,

it's really tearing me up.

Like all my friends and all my family know
the type of person that I am

and know that I want everything
to do with that child,

everything, if it is mine.

But the fact of me not knowing
at this particular moment

if it is or is not my child,
how am I supposed to go about that

and tell everyone 100 percent that it is?

Because I don't know.

I want everybody to know
who watches your show,

who watches Bravo, who watches
Below Decks Sailing Yacht

if that is my child,

I want everything and anything
to do with that child's life.


Bottom line, bottom line.

Well, that makes me really happy to hear.

Why didn't you take the DNA test?

There was talk of a DNA test
and I still want to do it.

I was told that I have to pay for it,
which is completely fine.

Money is not the object.
The peace of mind is the object here.

And so, you know, we've gone as far as me

trying to reach out
to her doctor's office.

I don't know if it's something that,
you know,

I don't think lawyers
need to get involved.

That's not the avenue I want to go at all.

I'd really like for me and Dani
to work together on this.

But she told me that if this was my child,

that she would never basically throw dirt

on my name to our child.

Okay, good.
Okay, well, the headline news is

that there's a little baby girl,

and if she's yours,

you want to be
a very big part of her life.

I want to be there.

I want to be there for the birth,

I want to as much as Dani
probably doesn't want me there.

I know that this child
is gonna be born very soon.

I was told a date.

I'm not going to share that with you guys
because she hasn't.

And I have been counting down the days
till I hear something.

You know, the fact of me...
The fact of me knowing that

this could possibly be my child

and not being there for
the birth is ******* k*lling me.

Wow.

I would love to share with you
what Dani told us on the reunion

about where she's coming from
and get your response to it.

Let's roll it.

He thinks it's not his child
and he doesn't want

to have anything to do with this.

I get a message saying,
"Don't go around telling people.

I mean, I'm the dad of this child
and I want a DNA test."

She is trying to get herself prepared
as best as she can.

She's been so amazing.

And it's just incredibly disgusting
and frustrating

that he won't even acknowledge
the situation.

So my heart breaks for Dani.

JL, shall I say, does not have a spine.

And for the little respect
that I had for him,

I mean, that's gone out the window.

You knew he didn't want to be involved,
you should just have had an ab*rtion.

She comments that "Gross was
a woman who uses a man

because she's so desperate to be a mom."

I'm sure my little baby girl
is going to be...

you know, yeah,

she's going to be amazing.

Okay.

You're upset.

JL?

Yeah, hello.

What's your reaction to that?

Man. Um...

I don't know right now. Words don't...

I'm a little lost for words at the moment.

Do you feel misrepresented by her?

You know, everything that...
Everything that she said is

most of it is correct

as far as the messages
that we went back and forth

about how in December
I started apparently, you know,

not being there for her
as much or whatnot.

What was your family's reaction
to learning

that Dani was pregnant?

I know your mom,
originally, said on the show

that you two look cute together.

Yes, so, you know,

mom's initial reaction,

she was excited, she was a little confused

because she's been telling me
my whole life to wear protection

and be safe and this, this and that

and, you know, haven't really taken on

that teaching
that she's been trying to tell me.

I know that she'd be happy for me.

But in the same token,

she wants to know the same thing
that I want to know.

And she's only trying to protect me.

And I actually told her
about two weeks ago

after she made that comment
that's been going around,

I told her I was like,
"Mom, you need to realize

that even though
what they're saying could be true

or could not be true,
you can't let it get to you."

Does she think that Dani
used you to become a mom?

I think that was said out of anger

towards a bunch of other things.

And what was your reaction
to hearing about that comment?

You know, I didn't agree with it.

I told her to take it down, to delete it,

because I knew that, um...

You know, I didn't like
for things to be said

in regards to Dani that way,

and I hope that she wouldn't
have like things said about me

in regards to that way,
so I made her take it down.

I actually got really frustrated with her
over the phone.

I said, "Mom, you can't be doing this.

Whether what you believe is true
or not, you can't be doing this

because then it paints me in the picture
because I'm attached to you."

So, yeah, I was pretty...
I was pretty upset

and I made her take it down
and she did it and she apologized.

But it seems like if you're hung up
on a DNA test

and you understand
that it's okay for you to pay for,

I mean, it seems like maybe
your mom could help you out

and try to facilitate this test.

It seems like a pretty simple equation.

Well, you know, Andy, at this point,

the child is going to be born
here very soon.

-Yeah.
-As soon as a child is born,

we're going to know.

Are you still in touch with anyone
from the Parsifal III crew

because, I mean, their reaction
to learning your behavior

surrounding Dani's
pregnancy announcement was damning.

Yeah. No, I know none of those guys...
None of those people like me.

That's okay, though.
I really... I'm cool with that.

Everyone has their own opinion
and the fact that they all saw

one side to the story
and now everyone, you know,

has this picture against me
and how I'm a piece of...

And I saw their faces, you know,

I saw how everyone
started judging me right off the bat.

And that's okay,
because they're going off of stuff

of what they only heard from someone

and not the other side of the story.

But, no, I wish everyone the best of luck

who was on board with on Parsifal III.

But as far as it goes, I don't care

what any of them think
as far as this situation goes at all,

because none of them
have gone through this

and they have no idea what it's like so...

[Andy] Is there anything else
that you wish

you had been able to tell Dani
or your fellow crewmates,

had you been at the reunion,
that you haven't said?

Is there any possible chance
that I can see that clip again?

-Sure, yeah.
-Please, yeah.

[Andy] Guys, let's play it again for him.

I'm just telling my side of the story,

and I wish he was here to defend himself
or to say what he thinks.


I would not choose to move
to a new country

where I don't know anybody
and to have a child

with a 24-year-old boy that I barely knew.

[Alli] I know that she can do this
without him and she will be better off.

Disgusting and frustrated
that he won't even acknowledge.

You knew he didn't want to be involved
you should've just had an ab*rtion.

The comments that "Gross was
a woman who uses a man

because she's so desperate to be a mom."

The little respect that I had for him,
that's gone out the window.

Is it worse the second time?

-Yeah.
-[Andy] Why?

I was paying attention a little bit more
to things that were said.

[Andy] Well, I think...

The looks on people's faces, too.

Well, I think the most important thing
isn't the looks on other people's faces.

I think the most important thing
is what she said.

And, listen,
I've been doing this a long time

and I've talked to a lot of people

in uncomfortable situations
and at these reunions and stuff

and I thought it was very notable
that she said,

I wish he was here.
I didn't come here to attack him.

I think you should take that to heart

because, especially, if you're saying

that pretty much everything
she said was true, you know.

Mm-hmm.

You're upset.

I'm not happy, no.

[Andy] It seems like now is the time

for you to communicate
and figure this thing out.

You might regret it if you don't.

Yeah, I don't... I really...
I really don't know.

I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to say.

Listen, Dani and your former crewmates
are going to see this.

Is there anything else
you want to say to them?

I just think that...

Just don't really judge a book
by its cover.

You know, I understand how I'm probably
being perceived right now

and... I just want everyone to know that,

you know, if this is my child,

I want everything to do
with this kid, like, you know,

I haven't told Dani this,

but I thought
about moving to Australia like...

There's been a lot of scenarios
running through my mind

these past eight months
to where it's, you know,

****, I don't know.

I've thought about every possible avenue,
every ****** avenue,

and I just...
I haven't come up with one yet.

And to Dani...

what we had on the show for me was real.

I don't care what anybody says,

even now that we're going
through what we're going,

what I felt for you and the time
that we had was genuine

and everything
that I ever said to you was true.

And... the fact that we are at
where we are now, I'm really sorry,

and I would assume to say
that most of it is my fault.

Maybe because it's...

I'm the boy that you think
that I am and...

I don't know, but with that being said...

I want to be there for you.

And...

I just want to know...

what I've asked you for months now and...

though you may not want
anything to do with me

because of me asking you
for a paternity test,

I understand that.
That's something that I can get over.

But what... I can't get over

is if this is my child
is not being there for her,

to watch her grow up,
to watch or learn how to eat,

to watch her learn how to walk, to...

I can't get over that,
and I need you to know that

I did support your decision and still do.

And I really hope that...

we can co-parent together, mutually,

and have respect
for one another like we did.

And I'm sorry that things
happened the way that they did.

I really am. I really am.

-[Andy] Wow.
-So...

-Well...
-I think that's...

I think that's all I have to say.

I think that's everything

what you just said
and what I really think you should do

is remember everything you just said
and write it all down

and send it to Dani right now
so you can...

resolve this.

[sighs] Yeah.

[Andy] She needs to hear from...

She needs to hear that from you, I think.

Yeah.

All right, Jean-Luc.

A lot on your plate.

Yeah, you're right.

I really appreciate you
talking to me tonight.

And I was... I'm happy to hear

what you had to say for yourself.

Glad to hear it, Andy, thanks.

[Andy] Thanks, Jean-Luc.