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01x07 - Dethroned

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Tiger King". Aired: March 20, 2020 – December 12, 2021.*
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The series explores the deeply interconnected community of big cat conservationists and collectors in America, and the private zoos and animal sanctuaries they have set up for the care and public display of these animals.

01x07 - Dethroned

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[operator] This call is subject

to being recorded or monitored,

except for privileged calls

between attorney and client.

[Joe] I'm in a cage.

Do you know why animals die in cages?

Their soul dies.

[Lowe]

This is where the new zoo will be located.

We have to be open by spring break.

Even if it's not completely done,

we have to have this center part done.

So I offered Tim Stark a partnership.

We are partners.

We are going into this zoo together.

I'm bringing two or three million dollars'

worth of equipment

and hundreds of animals.

See, I'm smarter than most people.

They say you can't get nothing done

with a monkey on your back,

so you put them on your f*cking front

and you can still get sh*t done.

It's a collaboration

between two of the most notorious assholes

in the industry.

[Lowe] We're stronger in numbers,

so I'm glad that Tim's down here.

[interviewer] Are you worried

about the fallout of Joe's case?

Oh, no, not a bit. Not a bit.

- Who should be worried?

- Joe.

[scoffs, laughs]

[Joe] I just worry whether or not

you're gonna be there when I get out.

[Dillon] I'm not going anywhere.

You don't have anything to worry about.

I'm still here talking to you.

When I married you, I just wanted it

to be different than everything else was.

I know.

I'll make this up to you. I promise.

Right now I just want you

to worry about getting out of there

and keep your head on your shoulders.

All right, I'll call you later.

All righty. I love you.

I love you.

Those are our conversations every day,

three times a day.

[reporter] The current owners

of what used to be Joe Exotic's park say

they've been cooperating with the feds

ever since the m*rder-for-hire allegations

came to light.

And with his trial looming,

other investigations are unfolding.

[Garretson]

Jeff Lowe let the feds into Joe's house.

They went through

and took Joe's documents,

jump drives, and all this other stuff.

It just opened up so many cans of worms

for Joe.

[reporter] Federal authorities

made some key discoveries:

bones of big cats.

They said that Joe had shot five tigers,

and they dug them up

and found the skulls.

They trumped up all the wildlife charges

to put pressure on Joe

because the m*rder-for-hire charge

was so flimsy.

That's why they came up with

the other 20 silly-a*s charges.

The mix of all that together

takes this poor dolt

and gets him into a position

where he appears to be

this great big felonious m*rder*r.

[Green] From the government's

point of view, both the m*rder-for-hire

and the wildlife charges

were crucial to bring and bring together.

Both counts one and two

charged Mr. Passage

with m*rder-for-hire.

Counts three through seven

of the indictment

are for sh**ting and k*lling five tigers

that were at his facility

in October of 2017.

The remaining counts are all related to

the sale of tiger and lion cubs.

[Joe] You know

what they threatened me with?

Seventy-nine years.

They superseded my indictment

with all these stupid wildlife charges

because the first two charges for m*rder

for hire would not have stuck.

[interviewer]

But Joe, did you sh**t those tigers?

[Joe] I euthanized five tigers, okay?

If you have a sick tiger or a lion

that needs to be put to sleep,

you've got to sh**t it or dart it.

There's only two options.

[Lowe] This isn't my park.

This is Joe's park.

The ghost of Joe walks this place.

I'm embarrassed to tell people

when they say, "What do you do?"

I say, "I have the zoo down in Wynnewood."

"Are you that crazy b*stard?"

"No, I'm not the crazy b*stard."

We are looking at some little tiger cubs.

Look at them. They're so cute.

Kind of a "purrfect" afternoon for me

if you ask.

So you guys are actually

moving locations here pretty soon, right?

We are.

We're going to close this facility down

as soon as we get the new one

down in Thackerville built.

[Lowe] We're building it.

It's just a slow process.

[Garretson] That zoo down in Thackerville,

that was my idea.

But things started to sour.

Jeff Lowe didn't really care

who he screwed.

I think James' mentality was He says

"Look," he says,

"you came to me with a problem of Joe."

He says, "I helped you out."

Jeff would be indicted

if it wasn't for me.

I'm the one that got Jeff the deal.

He says, "And I stuck my neck out for you.

And why wouldn't you put my name

on your zoo?"

And I said, "You know what, James,

it just doesn't work like that.

I think the cages will start

just the other side of those trees.

Where it went bad with James and I is

he couldn't have possibly afforded

to pitch in.

What we're building here

will be immaculate, amazing.

We're going to continue

until we're number one

top zoo in the country.

We're gonna keep bringing animals in,

more and more and more,

as we keep building.

Anything and everything, we want it all.

Everybody wants to be "the biggest,"

but nobody focuses on being "the nicest."

They'll just stick you in the back.

[Joe] This is how Jeff

does business, okay?

With James Garretson,

Jeff saw an opportunity,

and he took it.

[whistles]

[interviewer]

So how involved was Jeff Lowe

in plotting this whole plan

to k*ll Carole?

You're not gonna show this

to the defense attorney when I lay it out?

[laughs]

Don't don't free that m*therf*cker. No.

So basically what happened is

Jeff Lowe helped

put the thing together.

And because he obviously knew about it,

because Jeff Lowe told me on the phone

that he was going to use Allen Glover.

Joe, he offered me

money to go and m*rder that lady.

First it was $5,000, but the only thing

he come up with was three grand.

So I took that and I ran.

Remember,

this is about getting Joe in trouble,

even locked up for what he did.

They would have to f*cking promise me

not to f*cking lock my a*s up for that.

Right.

They're gonna do the same thing with me.

Before they give me immunity,

they want to meet with me and make sure

that what I have to tell them

is good enough for a conviction.

Once that happens, then they say,

"Okay, well here's your"

- Here's your deal.

- "Here's what we'll do for that."

And they'll have to do

the same thing with you.

[reporter] Now the trial begins

on Monday, March 25th at 9:00 a.m.

and could last about two weeks.

But the jury was selected.

The 55-year-old introduced himself

to the jury saying,

"I'm Joseph Maldonado-Passage,

and I'm the reason you all are here."

[Reinke] I know some things

that are going to come out in this trial.

I'm telling you,

I can't eat, I don't sleep.

I'm up all night long.

I lost a lot of weight.

None of my pants fit me anymore.

That's another thing. I had to buy pants.

I haven't worn pants in 20 years.

I gotta buy business attire.

I keep telling myself over and over,

I'm involved

in a federal m*rder-for-hire plot.

Who'd have thought?

Just because I stopped by a zoo

to feed a bear one day.

I've dealt with Joe for 14 years

at that zoo.

And my job was to get him out of trouble.

But I don't know

if I can get him out of this.

They have the people

who were closest to him,

people who were

so interwound with him

for years and years and years and years.

They're the very people

who are testifying against him.

I never mess with the feds.

I don't really like the feds.

Um, I'm a Libertarian,

so technically, f*ck the feds.

But you know,

I don't want to be dealing with them.

I was contacted by an FBI agent,

um, and he said point-blank,

"You're going to be on team government,

or you going to be on team Joe."

It was the scariest moment of my life.

[reporter 1] The federal trial

started today for a former zoo owner

and Oklahoma gubernatorial candidate.

[reporter 2] He could be looking

at nearly 80 years in prison,

but he is pleading not guilty.

[Cowie] It's pretty f*cking crazy.

I don't go to court.

I don't get traffic tickets.

I'm a good boy, and that's not my arena.

[Corkill] In the news, we talk about

shootings and killings every day,

but people will protest,

and they will not tolerate, animal abuse.

It was almost strategic

to bring all of these charges

at the same time.

You know,

let's strike while the iron is hot.

Let's strike while this is on the front

of everyone's mind.

[reporter] Former park employees

called to testify against him Monday

include Erik Cowie.

He came up with this .410 in his hand,

and I knew he just shot Cuddles.

I heard it.

And he came up the hill and goes,

"g*dd*mn, Erik,

if I knew it was gonna be this easy,

walk right up to the cage,

I'll k*ll 'em all."

There was no way for me to stop it.

It was going to happen.

Y'know, those cats trusted me.

And so they could look me in the eye

when they died.

I was the guy that was right there.

That means a minute to me.

A heavy minute.

You ever walked a lion?

You ever walked a tiger?

m*therf*cker, man.

[chuckles]

God damn.

They get so big so fast.

[reporter] The woman

Joe Exotic allegedly wanted dead

took the witness stand today.

Joe Exotic's m*rder-for-hire trial

is now in its second day.

Carole Baskin is speaking out

about some of the threats

she says she and her husband

have endured for years.

I'm surprised

he didn't want to do it himself.

But I wasn't surprised

that he would try to follow through.

The only silver lining to it is

that if someone were to k*ll me,

I think it would push this movement

so far forward

that it would be worth it.

[reporter]

Another dramatic day as the trial

for former big cat owner

Joe Exotic continues.

One former employee even told jurors

[interviewer] You're testifying mostly

about the movement of animals.

No. I'm testifying against him on both.

The m*rder-for-hire

and the animals.

I was Joe's right-hand man for 16 years.

I don't know

what I could go to prison for.

But I'm trying to make sure I don't go.

Let's check in with our Sylvia Corkill

who's live downtown.

She tells us

that witness got emotional today.

[Corkill] That witness told the jury

he was more than just an employee

at that park.

He said for 11 years,

he was in a romantic relationship

with Joseph Maldonado-Passage.

In 2017,

he said Joe asked him

to drive a man to Dallas

to purchase a fake ID.

Joe told him the man needed the ID

so he could drive to Florida

to k*ll Carole Baskin.

Then in September, the witness said

I didn't see anybody there for Joe.

I didn't

There was people sitting on his side,

but there was, like, nobody there

for him as a person.

[interviewer] How do you think

it's going to go for Mr. Exotic today?

I'm not sure. We'll see what happens.

And what's your role today?

Telling the truth.

[reporter]

The state's second witness, an informant,

alleged that Jeff Lowe not only knew

about the plot to k*ll Carole Baskin,

but that he took an active role

in hatching that plan.

[Joe] In court, James admitted

that when they were sitting there

watching Carole go down the bike path

and looking in her house

to see where he could sit

and sh**t her through a window,

Joe was back at his desk

minding his own business.

[reporter] The informant said

Lowe provided maps of Baskin's property

and recommended her m*rder take place

on the bike path near her home.

[Stark] When Jeff found out

Joe was embezzling money

and Joe was k*lling tigers,

I was telling him,

"Take the m*therf*cker down.

Slit his f*cking throat

and leave him laid."

Me and Jeff, I mean, we have our quarrels,

you know, but the main thing I wanted

was a business partner.

I got a lot of damn earth to move

for one person.

Sixteen, 18-hour days, seven days a week.

- Yeah, he just does what I tell him to do.

- Yeah, I'm his b*tch.

[Joe] Jeff can't work for a living.

He's gotta con somebody.

So when he runs out of cons,

he's gotta steal from people.

[Corkill]

Jeff Lowe is a very skilled con man.

How is he not facing any charges?

I don't think that it is any surprise

that he did not testify.

Was he a witness? Yes.

Did he testify? No. Why?

He would have perjured himself.

[Garretson] I mean,

letting the hit man loose tells you

it's kind of a witch hunt because

this guy went down there

to f*cking m*rder a lady.

And he's not even going to get

f*cking probation or nothing.

[Glover] I hate to be a part of this sh*t.

Wish I wasn't.

But yeah

he deserves

every f*cking thing he gets, sir.

Or more.

Yup.

How could they possibly give testimony,

and you believe what they were saying,

when clearly

they cannot be trusted.

[Joe] Why wasn't Allen Glover

confronted about lying on the stand?

Like that story about going to Florida.

It never happened.

Well, there were mixed stories,

but Allen apparently testified

that he actually came to Florida

so I believe him.

We had phone recordings

to prove that Allen never went to Florida.

I didn't go to f*cking Tampa.

What would I want to go there for?

I wasn't gonna k*ll no-m*therf*cking-body.

He could've gave me

a million f*cking dollars,

I wouldn't have went

and k*lled that f*cking woman for nothin'.

I wouldn't even went to f*cking Florida

on a vacation.

Apparently, I chickened the f*ck out,

and didn't make it there.

[Joe] Lyin' under oath

is supposed to mean something.

They should be charged with perjury.

And you would think

that it would be a mistrial.

[reporter 1] In a surprise move,

the so-called Tiger King

took the stand today in his own defense.

He is on trial in federal court

[Reinke] I was really shocked.

His attorneys didn't want him to testify.

They stood up and said

that they didn't want him to testify.

He went ahead and testified.

Joe took the stand and that's something

that I don't think anyone expected.

He had an answer for everything,

for everything that the prosecution said.

[Joe] I testified.

I told 'em that right before Thanksgiving,

I call Jeff and I say,

"Jeff, Allen won't wear a uniform.

He won't do anything I ask him to do.

He says he doesn't work for me."

We have the text message where Jeff said,

"Okay, well, maybe

he'll be better off in South Carolina."

Thanksgiving day

I had cooked dinner for 150 people,

and they donated enough,

I could put together $3,000 to give Allen,

so he could get the hell outta there.

Here, sweetie, I'll help you.

Get your plate up here.

It was out of the cash register

on Jeff's orders

to give it to Allen.

Now, Joe can be convincing.

I was nervous

that it only takes one holdout

to make it a hung jury.

To me, it appears he was set up

each step of the way.

He's not smart enough

to go through with what he did.

Who hires a $3,000 hit man?

He's also stupid.

A cross-country, traveling,

high-end hit man

cannot cost three grand.

I don't think it could cost thirty grand.

I think it's probably a hundred grand

to find that guy,

and you certainly don't find him

from a new friend.

[Dial] Jeff Lowe set him up.

That is the truth of the matter.

It's a tragedy.

It's a g*dd*mn tragedy,

because Joe was set up.

What is setting up a person?

Turning them in?

Or allowing them to talk

while you're recording them?

Is that setting them up?

You know, they call it set up,

I'd call it investigate.

And did I encourage him from time to time?

Probably, because I wanted that sound bite

to give to the authorities to convict him

and get him out of this business.

[operator] This call is subject

to being recorded or monitored,

except for privileged calls

between attorney and client.

How are you feeling tonight, Joe?

[Joe] I think testifying went very well.

I feel good about my jury.

I think I'm going home.

If I win and get out,

I've got to completely start my life

all over again.

And I'm looking forward

to starting all over again,

because I don't

have to look over my shoulder,

I don't have all this drama

hanging over me anymore.

My life can start over fresh.

It was part of the government's evidence

that we showed the jury a variety

of the social media postings

that Mr. Passage had made

that referenced Miss Baskin

in a violent way:

having her k*lled or wishing her dead.

We hear it's Carole's birthday next month.

[Green] Mr. Passage built his own kingdom.

He was the Tiger King.

But here's the problem with kings.

They get used to making all the rules.

Carole, you can guaran-g*dd*mn-tee

I'm gonna put a cap in your a*s.

[Green] Mr. Passage believed

that his kingdom was under attack.

So Mr. Passage attacked back.

He talked to everyone around him

about his hate for Miss Baskin.

Before I'm done with this,

I'm gonna have the b*tch's head in a jar.

[Green] But we aren't here today

because of what Mr. Passage said online.

We are here today because of what he said

when he thought no one was listening.

And he decided that, as the king,

he would protect the kingdom at all costs.

He was going to

simply assassinate his rival.

And it's your job now

to make sure that no one,

not even the Tiger King,

is allowed to be above the laws

of the United States.

[bell tolling]

You know,

I had some different change of hearts.

Do I want to see this guy put away

and others free

that have done just as bad things?

I'm like, uh no.

It's gonna be kind of hard to sleep with,

if he gets life in prison or something.

It's gonna be You know, hey,

I'm not the only one

that was there to testify,

you know, there's a lot of other people,

but, yeah, I'll feel somewhat responsible.

[Reinke] I was actually approached

early on about testifying,

and then I never heard from anybody.

I ran that zoo for 14 years.

Why would they not want to talk to me?

I don't know which way

this is going to go.

It's in the fate of 12 strangers though,

I do know that.

[announcer]

From News 9, this is breaking news.

[reporter] News 9's Sylvia Corkill

in place outside the federal courthouse.

She was in the courtroom as the verdict

against Joe Exotic was read.

Let's go to Sylvia right now

for the very latest. Sylvia.

[Corkill] Kelly, last week we told you

that it could take some time

in order for the jury to come back

with its verdict,

seeing that there were 19 counts.

However, after just three short hours,

nearly four hours,

the jury came back,

finding Joseph Maldonado-Passage

guilty on all 19 counts.

Two of those largest ones,

for the alleged use of interstate commerce

for m*rder-for-hire

Guilty.

[clicks tongue]

Did Joe do wrong?

Yeah, I'm sure he did wrong.

Yeah, he did sell cubs.

He did transport cubs.

The m*rder-for-hire, I don't think

it woulda went this far

without somebody pushing.

[reporter] A lot of people questioned,

is Jeff Lowe

- Should he face charges as well?

- He's a director of a zoo.

I mean,

it's the same zoo that Joe had, so

They all got what they wanted.

The Tiger King in jail, in a cage.

It's pretty ironic.

It's sad.

The man's going to die in jail.

[Joe] I just need out of here so bad.

[breathing heavily, weeping]

It is It is

I'm telling you, man. It's worse

than what you can ever treat an animal.

I'm being treated like that in here.

I can't do much more of this.

[Howard] I generally keep

these little bottles of champagne

for when good things happen.

That definitely was a champagne

and Brie evening.

If ever I would leave you ♪

It couldn't be in springtime ♪

Seeing you in springtime ♪

I never could go ♪

You are something else.

[both laughing]

All he had to do was convince one juror.

I told Howie it's gonna be 15 minutes.

I was thrilled

and relieved with the outcome.

The man known to many Oklahomans

as Joe Exotic

will be going to federal prison.

[reporter] Soon these 300-plus animals

will have a new place to call home.

We are planning to shut the zoo down

in a few months.

It will be better to have a fresh start.

We take Lauren in next Tuesday

to be induced to give birth to

Sarah Evelyn Lowe

[Lauren laughs]

and then we get Lauren back in the gym.

- Are you ready?

- Ready for that nanny. Quit it.

Yes, we're getting a nanny. I need help.

I said you can get a nanny

as long as I get to pick her.

If you're gonna bring in one,

why bring in one

that's not enjoyable to look at?

I mean, you're going to have to have

this person living in your home.

Well, some of these are bilingual

or multilingual,

and that'd be great,

for them to teach a baby that too.

So that'd be really good.

With Jeff Lowe, the suspicion is

he could still face charges down the road.

Rumor has it

it will be for something much larger.

For the last two years,

everybody's accused me

of all these crimes,

and I got the evidence,

but it's never materialized.

You know, I'm not an angel, but god

put up your proof, you know,

stop talking about it.

[Garretson]

I think Lowe will get arrested soon.

I mean, he said a lot of things

and all that stuff incriminates him.

You know, and I don't think

Joe will be in a cell alone.

I think other people are going too.

I mean, they don't know what I'm gonna do.

I don't think I'm finished in this.

- [interviewer] All right.

- [laughs]

Turn that sh*t off for a minute.

[Reinke] It's so crooked,

the way they do it.

James Garretson is right involved

in this damn deal with Joe,

and they ain't doing nothing to him.

I called. I called and I asked the feds.

"What's going to happen to these people

that's done all this stuff?"

They said it is far from over.

[Joe] In 20 years, I have bit my tongue,

and I have kept my mouth shut

to the point

that I am just not gonna do it anymore.

I've got a list of 37 names.

I can shut 'em all down.

I have the proof of everything.

So, I wanna give my evidence to PETA.

A lot of documents,

like legal documents and permits

hard drives are all over here.

- [interviewer] What kind of permits?

- Transfer papers for animals.

[Joe] Did I ever dream that PETA

would be my ally right now?

f*ck no,

but I'm done with the animal world,

so let's just

shut all the troublemakers down.

[Peet] Joe was public enemy number one

for my department.

But we went to the jail

where he's held in Oklahoma

and we met with Joe

and his attorneys for two days.

He was able to share information with us

about wildlife trafficking

in the United States,

the abuse of animals that's going on

behind the scenes

by a lot of the players.

[interviewer] So here's one to Doc Antle.

- Two male tigers

- [Dillon] Stop.

[interviewer] Oh, that's bad?

[interviewer] Why do you think PETA

or the animal rights groups

hasn't really targeted you?

I'm not f*cking around.

I can't be targeted.

How do you target me?

[Peet] Joe told me that

Doc Antle puts tiger cubs

who have aged out of playtime events

in a gas chamber

to k*ll them

and then that he cremates their bodies

in his on-site crematorium.

[woman] He said, "That feels good."

[Joe] Brittany was quite shocked

because, f*ck,

I gave her information on everybody.

She says, "We'll get something done.

Are you willing to testify against them?"

[snarling]

[Joe] I said,

"I'll testify against all 30 of them."

[Peet] I think that Joe's motivation

in this case is revenge.

He really wants to see

a lot of the other people

in the big cat trade go down with him.

[Joe] Right now is the time

that everybody needs

to tighten the noose around Jeff Lowe.

Jeff and Tim are at w*r.

It seems like everybody starts out well

with me and then it ends bad.

[Stark] like I told you

when I left there, Jeff.

You're stirring up sh*t

I've had so many calls.

He'll scream, I hang up.

He'll scream, I hang up.

[Stark] f*ck you, you little pussboy!

[Stark] I'm done.

I didn't go 900 miles

to build the damn zoo by my-damn-self

so he could take the glory.

[Lowe] Having Tim as a partner

sounded like a good idea at the time.

So did helping Joe.

[Stark] I was paying for it all.

I was paying to have all the stuff

shipped out there.

It was supposed to be a 50/50 business.

[Joe] Tim finally figured out

that Jeff Lowe doesn't have no money,

and he's footing the bill.

And he can't take it anymore.

Keep your friends close

but keep your enemies closer.

So, hey, Jeff.

Here I come, m*therf*cker.

[Lowe] Now you got Tim talking to Joe,

Joe talking to PETA,

and all these people hated one another

six months ago.

Once we start trying to shut a person down

and end their abuse of animals,

we don't stop.

When you're conducting a w*r,

you don't bemoan the fact

that you're winning

battle after battle after battle,

knowing that you will win

if you keep going.

And we're going to be patient

and persistent, and we will win,

and whether it's five years or ten years,

we will make it happen.

Nobody wins.

Everyone involved

is a so-called animal advocate.

Not a single animal benefited

from this w*r.

Not a single one.

[cat meows]

[Reinke] A lot of drama in the zoo world,

and, you know, I've changed my life.

I'm doing different things now.

I'm 52 years old.

I'm done with

this "he said, she said" stuff.

[man] If I need to stop,

take a breather, you just let me know.

[Reinke]

The zoo took a big chunk out of my life.

It just played its toll on my marriage.

I didn't want to be unhappy anymore,

so I just I left my wife.

After 30 years.

So I live on my own now.

Who is Joe Exotic?

[Finlay] A nobody now.

Nobody? [chuckles]

He will be after we're done

with this tattoo, huh?

- Yeah.

- Be just a memory.

No, won't even be a memory.

[Reinke] I miss the babies a lot.

I really, really do.

I miss Bonedigger and Cletus.

And, you know, they told me

unless I just had

shitloads of money to dump in Jeff's lap,

I'd never get my animals back.

So I just had to walk away from them.

[man] Yeah, that's a tender spot now.

[Dial] Everyone has lost in this.

What started out

as this feud between two people,

a good and noble fight

to stop cub selling, cub petting,

turned into a personal

and legal court battle,

and it just became about them.

Think of that. It has to be millions

of dollars. It has to be.

Think of the hundreds of thousands

they spent investigating Joe.

Think of what millions of followers,

donors and whatnot

think of how far that could go

saving these tigers

in their natural habitats.

[Dial] We've completely lost sight

and lost touch

of what really matters here.

And that's the conservation protection

of the species of this planet.

There's a new home for exotic animals

that's opening up.

It's a refuge for unusual creatures

The G.W. Exotic Park has over 70 big cats

in their park.

[Joe] These are very dangerous animals,

very beautiful animals,

that have a place in the world,

and that's in Africa and Asia and India,

not in Oklahoma.

[Kirkham] I truly believe

that Joe started the zoo

for good purposes, good reasons.

The state needs to pass laws

that this breeding has got to stop.

[Kirkham] But, as the money rose,

I think his care

for the animals declined

God damn.

to the point that he didn't really care

for the animals at all.

At all.

And what was really sad is I had to

film a reality show

to make it look like he did.

I ain't lived with that till this moment.

Sweet money right here, buddy.

Five thousand right here.

God, they're tiny, aren't they?

[Joe] Are the animals happy?

Who the hell knows?

I finally moved my two chimpanzees

last week.

Probably one of the hardest days

of my life.

They sat in cages next to each other

for over ten years.

And we moved them

to the Great Apes Center in Florida.

And in two days,

they were out in a big yard

hugging on each other.

Did I deprive them of that for ten years?

Yep.

I I deprived them of of

being chimpanzees.

Did I do it on purpose?

No, I was wrapped up in in

having a zoo.

[country song plays]

Tell all the hunters ♪

To lay down their g*ns ♪

Tell them that the tiger ♪

Needs a little bit of love ♪

Let 'em run the jungle ♪

Let them roam their land ♪

Then stand back and marvel ♪

What a beautiful cat ♪

'Cause I saw tiger ♪

Now I understand ♪

I saw tiger ♪

And the tiger saw man ♪

I can give him a home ♪

Safe and warm ♪

But the law wants to ban me ♪

Can you tell me who's wrong ♪

Every time they move ♪

Every time they breathe ♪

I can feel their power ♪

I can feel their heat ♪

'Cause I saw tiger ♪

Now I understand ♪

I saw tiger ♪

And the tiger saw man ♪