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01x05 - A Grave Discovery

Episode transcripts for the TV show, "Lost Gold of the Aztecs". Aired: March 29, 2022.*
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Three different families search for the treasure on different properties in three different states: the Dillmans in Utah, the Hoaglands in Nevada and the Villescases in New Mexico.

01x05 - A Grave Discovery

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Narrator: Tonight on
"Lost Gold of the Aztecs"...

Derrick: All right, here we go.

Dan: So what we're hoping to find is
an entrance to the treasure chamber.

You gotta be
kidding me. That's it.

- Let me know what you're seeing up there.
- Guys, I got something.

We found something out in the
desert that I'd like your opinion on.

It was something that
I've never seen before.

Chris: How you doing, Emmett?

Emmett's one of the last
independent miners that I know.

I think Emmett
holds a lot of secrets.

Kevin: Oh.

I've been in this
desert my whole life,

and I know a grave
when I see one.

Narrator: 500 years ago,
the Aztecs possessed

one of the greatest treasures
the world has ever seen.

Word of this treasure
attracted the attention

of the Spanish conquistadors,

but when they came for the gold,

it was already gone,

hidden by Emperor Montezuma

in locations throughout what
is now the American Southwest.

Now, three treasure
hunting teams,

all with different approaches,

are closing in on
what they believe

is the location of
the lost Aztec gold.

This right here is
definitely manmade activity.

The Dillmans are
following a trail

blazed by the research
of their grandfather.

I believe it's my destiny
to find it for the family.

The Villescas are
treasure seekers

descended from
Spanish conquistadors.

They believe the
Spanish found the gold...

All right. Here we go.

And melted it into bars

hidden throughout the
American Southwest.

Gabriel: If anybody's
gonna find it, it's gonna be us.

And finally, Hoagland and Hegg.

Fire in the hole!

They believe the treasure
is hidden inside mines

along well known
Aztec trade routes.

If anything happens,
be ready to go.

Decades of searching...

That's old as hell.

Three different theories.

Kevin: That's what
I do. I go find stuff.

Which one of these
teams will be proven right...

and be the first to find

the lost gold of the Aztecs?

All right, guys, so we
know the next step?

Narrator: Dan Dillman
has been following

his late grandfather's
research for decades

in the hopes of
finding a tunnel system

that leads to Montezuma's gold.

For the past several weeks,

they've been searching
for these tunnels

in and around the place
they call Shadow Cave.

But after coming up cold...

Dan: Maybe that's just an
impression in the wall of the cave.

They're pivoting to
another site in the canyon

that Dan's grandfather
thought might be promising.

All right, Derrick, let's take a look at
the areas we've already covered here.

Dan: My grandfather taught me

that you have to really
exhaust every avenue you can

because you can easily
overlook a very important clue.

All right, so so far we've
covered all of this area right here.

One of the things that
my grandfather and uncles

have always stressed to me

was to look for
signs and symbols,

to look for those things
that may be out of place.

That's what I'm looking for.

I think the next place
we have to start looking

is right over here in the
northeast corner of the canyon.

- Dan: Right.
- Right along here.

All right, well, let's get
the drone up in the air

and let's see if we can find
anything along the rims here.

- All right, that works.
- All right, cool.

So what we're hoping to find

in this canyon is
a tunnel system,

an entrance into a
treasure chamber.

All right, here we go.

Gonna go right across
this river here, right?

Dan: Absolutely. Let's make
sure to just hit the rim first.

- Yep.
- Actually hitting the face and the outside first.

- Derrick: Okay.
- And then if we can get another scan

that will come up up over kind
of on the top of the rim as well.

- Derrick: Okay.
- Gina: Yeah.

All right, let's
see what we find.

You always wanna look around
especially towards the rims,

because if the Aztecs
were coming through here,

they would sit right on the top so
they could oversee the entire valley.

- All right, let's take it a little bit to the right.
- Derrick: All right.

Why don't you zoom in
a little closer with that?

See if you can move
in closer to the cliff.

- Yeah, we're gonna wanna fly right over that.
- Yeah.

- Did you guys see that?
- Derrick: Yeah.

Get a little closer if you can.

- Derrick: Huh.
- Interesting.

That looks like some
kind of opening, for sure.

Gina: Try to push
into that right there.

- Right here? All right.
- Yeah.

Dan: Go nice and slow.

Oh, forget it. That
looks like nothing.

I can see how you could've thought it
was an opening, but, yeah, it's nothing.

All right, keep heading west
along the rim. Let's see what we get.

Just keep following the canyon.

Derrick: Right
along this way, right?

- Dan: Yep.
- All right.

I'm bringing it down right here.

Hold on, I think we have
something here. Hold up, bud.

Steady that thing
out. Bring it closer.

You see that right there?

If we can get down
right on the face of that...

Yeah, I mean, we almost landed.

You gotta be kidding me.

I have seen this before.

So one of the major symbols

that my grandfather
always told us

to be aware of and to look for

was the sacred water
stone, or the water glyph.

A water glyph is a stone marker

that points in the
direction of water sources.

They can be anywhere
from 1,000 to 2,000 years old,

and this is significant,
because my grandfather

also discovered one
in Johnson Canyon.

Narrator: In 1982,
Raymond Dillman's research

led him to Johnson Canyon, Utah,

where he discovered several
mysterious pictographs,

an ancient burial site,

and a water glyph.

Raymond suspected
that this stone

may have been
a sacrificial altar.

Dan: That's it.

- It's unbelievable.
- Gina: It's crazy.

Dan: Finding the
sacred water stone

brings more credibility
and more evidence

that we are in the right canyon.

What is it that
we're gonna find?

I don't quite know yet,
but I do know that we've got

the sacred water stone,
and that alone is major.

I'm gonna bring in an archeologist
that our family has worked with for years

to see what clues
this stone can provide.

Narrator: Gabriel
and his father Ramon

are on their way to meet
with a local blacksmith

and historian to have
a recent find examined.

While digging in area
they've termed the Fire Pit,

they uncovered an old spur.

Something's in the
grizzly. Look at that.

Gabriel: Oh, wow.
Look at that. Bingo.

If the spur dates back
to the conquistadors,

it could be tangible evidence

that the Spanish came
through their dig site

and could've used
it to hide their gold.

- Hey, Clint. How you doing?
- Good. And yourself?

Good to see you again.

- This is it.
- Aw.

We found this out
there in the desert.

Man, that's got
a lot of age to it.

Gabriel: A lot of people have
rode through the Southwest...

The Spaniards, early
American settlers.

I'm optimistic on the spur find,

but it could be anybody's spur.

Let me try to get a
little bit of that clay out.

So this one is actually in great
shape for the age. It's great.

I've dug up a lot of stuff
here in the Southwest,

and every time I find something,
it's usually in great condition.

The desert is a
great time capsule.

It doesn't rain very much
out here. It's very dry and arid.

There's not enough moisture out
here to make things rust out fast.

You know, it's got the ornate shank and
stuff that's big, so it was a fancier one.

They started getting
smaller after that.

Some of the older ones
were even a little larger,

up to like five-inch rowels,
you know, the wheels.

And then right
here is the swinger.

This here is what was
holding a leather band on.

Most likely when you
find a single like that

it's because the strap broke
sometime when they were riding,

didn't notice it until later.

And this one here
could've been anything

after about 1500 into late 17.

Could it be Spanish?
From the conquistadores?

Clint: I'm gonna put a
little bit of penetrating oil.

- I'm gonna clean up that shank just a little bit.
- Gabriel: Sure.

They took a lot of pride
in doing that ornate work.

Actually, this just particular shape
of this shank, I've seen before.

Also the forge work, and you can
see the file work and stuff on the band?

You can see all that
weaving in and out.

Oh, yeah. Yep.
Definitely conquistadors.

This one, as ornate
as it is, and as large,

it was most likely owned by
somebody military or a wealthier owner

that would've been
somebody high-ranking.

The Spanish actually introduced
the horse to the New World.

In 1493, I believe, in Columbus'
second expedition to the Americas,

he brought them over.

And then Cortez
brought more over

about 30 years after that.

You mean, there was no
horses on this continent?

- Nope. Yep.
- Wow.

So the horses that the
Native Americans obtained

was that from the same stock
that the Spaniards had had?

- Yeah, yeah.
- Ramon: Spaniards, yeah.

Narrator: Horses populated the
Southwest before the Spanish arrived,

but went extinct 8,000
to 10,000 years ago.

The reintroduction of horses
to America by the Spanish

became what we know today
as the modern wild mustang.

That's a great piece. Yeah.

That points us right where we
wanna be in the right direction.

It is. You're right on there.

- That's where it came from, the timeframe, everything.
- Yeah.

I've been chasing this
treasure for decades,

so today's a really
big day for us.

This spur's our first real confirmation
that the Spanish were here.

Does it mean that they actually
buried gold here? It's definitely possible.

We're gonna keep
on working this area.

This might be it.

Clint: Right on, man.
Thanks for sharing that.

She's a sight for sore eyes.

So what's this all about?

I got something to show
you down the mountain here.

Okay. Down the mountain again?

You'll know when you see it.

Narrator: Kevin
Hoagland and Chris Hegg

have been searching
an ancient mine

looking for Aztec
gold for several weeks,

but Chris has made
a disturbing discovery

near the mine's entrance,

so he is bringing Kevin
to the site to examine it.

Chris: I was up here looking
around on the side of the mountain,

and I seen something down
here that I wanna show Kevin.

It's some kind of mound.

It's around here.

Oh.

Chris: What's your opinion?

My gut tells me it's a grave.

I've been in this
desert my whole life,

and I know a grave
when I see one.

I mean, it's the most
disrespectful way you could do this,

and so I think it was
done out of necessity.

- [ shudders ]
- Yeah.

If you know that you have a
body, then it gets a little touchy.

You shut down everything,

you get ahold of
the local authorities.

And then they come out
and they take over from there.

I don't know. You think it's
worth a run of the radar then?

Yeah, I do.

Okay, let me grab my
GPR, and we'll check this out.

Narrator: To avoid disturbing
any possible remains,

Chris will use
ground-penetrating radar

to scan the ground
below the rocks

for an indentation
large enough for a body.

Kevin: What do you wanna do?

Chris: All we're gonna
do is just hand it across

'cause of this ground is,
you know, flat on both sides...

- If there's... yeah. Right.
- And it's a...

That's what we're looking for.

Have it touch as close as
you can get to the ground.

And keep going.

Wow. Look at that.

- Wow. Look at this.
- You can read the... yeah.

- Instantly. You don't even need a second run.
- Yep.

There's a big pit in the
ground. Look at that.

That goes down quite aways.

That's bedrock,
right, on both sides?

- Yep.
- Right under us within six inches.

Kevin: Mm-hmm.

And there's the pit right there.

[ beeps ]

I really don't wanna
mess with this.

Kevin: This could really slow
us down on what we're doing,

but if it is a body, it
deserves that respect.

We have ourself a grave.

- What are we gonna do?
- What we have to do.

We need to get Sheriff out here.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Up to the top.

Narrator: The Dillman team, along
with archeologist Aaron Jordan,

are making their way
along the canyon rim

to inspect the water glyph.

Let's do this thing.

Aaron, an expert on
pictographs of the Southwest,

has been collaborating with the
Dillman family for nearly 20 years.

If that is a shaft,
manmade, created,

it is quite large, versus
what you would expect

amongst most native groups here.

Step up on the rock. Perfect.

You got it, brother.

Dan: I need some help
decoding this water glyph,

and Aaron Jordan is
the only one on my team

who has the knowledge
and expertise to get that done.

Right up over this way.

Aaron: So that's
definitely a water glyph.

We've documented
c lose to 400 of these

in the American
Southwest so far.

- Wow.
- If you look down here,

there's certain characteristics

that identifies this
as a water glyph.

You've got this oval.

Often, the line is gonna
be about double the length

as width of the
oval or the circles.

And then you've got a
line that generally marks

and directs them
to a water source.

It's imperative that they
know where water is.

Water is valuable as gold

- because without water you die.
- Dan: Right.

Some of the preliminary analysis

on these particular glyphs
here in the Southwest

is that one leads to another,
you know, to another.

I've got a two day walk, you
know, to go where I'm going,

I'm gonna run out water.

So they would orient
this that if you knew...

If you followed this, you'd
be able to hit the next glyph.

And we've been able to do that.

We've been able to follow
some of these glyphs here

that lead to another glyph
and another water source

which then leads to
another water source.

So it's basically a trail.

Our family theory is we
believe the Aztecs were here

and made these
symbols as they left

and as they journeyed to
Mexico to found Tenochtitlan.

And so then they
left this path then,

obviously, to be able to
come back and navigate.

That could... that's
a pretty valid point.

As they were abandoning...

What we call the
Southwest Abandonment,

which occurred
around A.D. 1300 or so,

which is, you know, around
the time of these glyphs...

- Dan: Right.
- As they're traveling,

- let's say to the south, right?
- Mm-hmm.

And they're marking
these water sources,

that they do plan to come back.

Right.

Narrator: The ancestral
home of the Aztecs,

known as Aztlan,

is believed to have
been located somewhere

in the American Southwest.

Over generations, the
Aztecs migrated south

in what's been called
the Great Abandonment,

and founded Tenochtitlan
around the year 1325

which became the
capitol of the Aztec empire.

Dan's family believes
that before the Spanish

attacked the Aztecs in 1520,

Montezuma had the gold
taken north to Aztlan and hidden.

Dan: These markers,
they're in stone,

and so they will last
for thousands of years.

The Aztec, when they
were here up north,

did they make these
markers as they traveled south

so they could make their
way back to their homeland?

Water glyphs, like I said,

they're oriented so if
you take your compass...

So you can take a little
reading off of that thing.

And so that's telling me

that about 250 to 260 degrees

is the actual right bearing,

and that would lead us to...

If we go 260
degrees out this way...

That probably leads us right
to Shadow Cave up there.

Aaron: That's exactly
what I'm thinking.

Dan: That water glyph
absolutely is pointing

in the direction of Shadow Cave.

That's another major
sign and symbol

that my grandfather
told us to look for.

Aaron: Why pick out a
specific water source?

That's the question
that pops into my mind.

My perspective is if you're
using this as a water trail,

why not use it as
an additional trail?

Right, and that's one of
the things that we believe,

is that they have
multiple meanings.

You know, that you could have
two to three layers of meanings

to this symbol.

There's a lot of symbolism
that we just really don't know.

Dan: Is it possible
that these water glyphs,

were they actually made
by the ancient Aztecs?

Because they would've absolutely
come to a canyon just like this,

a place also with
such natural resources

that they could engineer exactly
what they needed to hide the treasure.

This canyon is a prime location
for Montezuma's treasure.

I've got to look deeper into
my grandfather's research

and I need to see
what's going on.

Gabriel: Here we go.

Narrator: After getting confirmation
that the Spanish conquistadors

could've passed
through the Fire Pits...

This shank I've seen before

in a few of the old
conquistador spurs in museums.

Gabe and his father Ramon

have returned to resume digging.

Right now, I'm just working in concentric
circles to expand this work area.

I think we might
be onto something.

Just shake it a
little bit, okay?

You know, I've got a lot of pressure
because my brain's telling me

I don't have enough
evidence to dig this site.

And on the other side
my heart's telling me that,

you know, my dad doesn't have

a whole lot of
searches left in him.

Don't see nothing?

- Nothing.
- Okay.

Try it again.

I've been fortunate enough to have
my father with me this whole journey,

and he's getting
a little bit older.

I wanna bring this home.

That was a big one, huh?

I wanna be able to
hand him a bar of gold

and share that experience with
him and see the smile on his face

when we're finally able
to complete this adventure.

Nothing?

I wanna show him all
our hard work paid off.

Let's see what we got here.

Look at that, Dad.

- It looks dark, like a piece of iron.
- Ramon: It sure does, huh?

Like it was shaped on purpose.

- It almost looks like some type of iron implement.
- But it's a root.

But it's a root.

When you start looking at
stuff like this all day, I mean,

even a root starts to
look like a treasure.

- [ laughs ]
- Dump it, man.

Dad, look at that. Almost
like a piece of pottery.

- What is it?
- What do you make of that?

- Is it metal?
- I don't know.

What is this? It's
a funny shape.

I mean, it looks manmade.

What the heck is this thing?

Gabriel: A piece of pottery is
really, really cool and interesting,

but, you know, I just
don't know what it is.

I need to get this
over to somebody

that can look at this
item and identify it.

Oh, man, what are we
gonna do about this grave site?

Narrator: Kevin
Hoagland and Chris Hegg

are headed into cell phone
range to call the sheriff

after finding what they
believe may be a grave site.

They're putting their search
for treasure temporarily on hold.

I mean, the best thing that
could happen is it is ancient.

If that's a crime scene from
somewhere in the last 30 to 50 years...

then we are shut down.

The last thing I wanna
do is get jammed up

in a bunch of
unnecessary bureaucracy.

I think the sheriff's
our best bet.

It's a nice small county. I mean,
these guys know what they're doing.

Dude, it's a body on
the side of a mountain.

- No matter what, the right thing to do is...
- Yeah.

Get it checked out.

Let's call him.

- Mineral County Sheriff's Department.
- Yeah, it's 911.

[ line ringing ]

Rachel: Mineral County
Sheriff's Office. This is Rachel.

Do you have an emergency?

Hi, Rachel, this is Chris Hegg.

Uh, we just... we just
were out at a mine.

We might've found a grave.
We think it's an old grave.

And which mine is it at?

It was up at
Rattlesnake Mountain.

All right, and is
this 316-[ bleep ]?

Is that a good number
to call you back at?

- Yes, please.
- Beautiful.

Okay, bye. Well,
let's keep moving.

Kevin: By calling the
Sheriff's Department,

both Chris and I are very
aware that when they show up

they're going to treat
it as a crime scene

no matter what until they
can prove it otherwise.

So that puts us in a
spot of absolute limbo.

We don't know
what's in that hole.

We don't know what's
in that grave site.

It's going to be up to them

on whether we go back
to work immediately or not.

Narrator: After discovering a
water glyph on the rim of the canyon,

Dan returns to the hundreds
of hours of audio tapes

and research he inherited
from his grandfather.

He hopes that his
grandfather's find

of a similar water glyph in 1982

will provide some clues about
where Dan should search next.

Dan: I mean, the Aztecs

could've been following

their ancient
water glyph system,

and then coming into
Cave Lakes Canyon.

This is one of the
only places in the area

that would have enough
water and enough resources

to sustain such a
massive amount of people.

And this is the perfect place
the Aztecs would've known about.

My grandfather, through these
audio tapes that we have found of his,

through all of his papers
and notes and writings,

I am really following
his direction.

And that water glyph,
that's just another clue,

another piece of our puzzle.

I think the vertical marker
my grandfather is talking about

is the water glyph,
which he called an altar,

and the cave that it's
pointing to is Shadow Cave.

And so we've got Shadow Cave,
and we've done some investigating,

and Weeping Cave.

And these are great clues,

and possibly could connect us

to the Aztecs being there,

for me, in a big way.

But it's still not that chamber

that he's specifically
talking about.

I think we need to go
back to the water glyph

and explore the face
of the canyon below it.

Chris: We're going
to a ghost town

where only one person lives.

His name's Emmett.
He's an old miner.

He lives out in the middle
of nowhere by himself.

- You'll love it.
- Lucky man.

Narrator: As Kevin
and Chris wait

for the local sheriff's
office to call them back,

they're continuing their
hunt the only way they can,

heading to see a local man

who they hope can
provide some answers

on the items they
found in the mine.

So you're thinking Emmett
is gonna know of anybody

that was ever in these mines?

He knows everything there
is to know about this valley.

He's quite a unique character.

So, I've known Emmett
since I was a little boy.

- Yeah.
- He lost his voice to Agent Orange.

He was in Vietnam,
lost his hearing.

So he's really deaf. You gotta
speak up when you're talking to him.

He's the last that I know of the
independent miners in this entire region.

- Is this the area? Is this it?
- This is it.

Well, I think his truck's
home, so I think he's here.

Kevin: The mine Chris and I are
interested in is obviously an old one.

The first part of the
shaft was all dug by hand.

The hand dug section
dead-ends, but off to side,

there's evidence to a much more
modern approach going down.

We wanna know more about that.

Nobody would've dug that
looking for any type of minerals.

That spot was dug to
either to hold treasure

or it was dug by somebody
looking for treasure.

I'm hoping that Emmett
knows who dug it and why.

Emmett, you home?

How you doing, Emmett?

Emmett's one of the
last independent miners

that I know from the old days.

All right if I set this here?

I think Emmett
holds a lot of secrets.

Chris: The reason we're
here is we found some stuff,

and we wanna see if you
know anything about it.

Here's one of them.

It was in the mine.

Kevin: I thought it was a flask,

and then I saw that it
didn't have a top on it.

Chris: Oh, really?

Kevin: Yep, August of 1955.

And the area that
we're in, it predates that,

so we're both kind of wondering
who may have been in there.

We're in an old mine, and
you might know this area,

but when we got down to
another level, we found this box.

So then there was a
decline that went down,

and we roped down that
and found this can down there.

Who would've been
searching down there and why?

I don't think you can be a
miner without having a little bit

of treasure hunter in you, yeah.

Are those pictures of Roy?

Aw, yeah. There's Roy.

Carbide lamp and...

Well, we're gonna be frank

that we feel that
there was maybe

some ancient treasure out
there even before Spanish

and maybe even the
Aztec time or something.

Could your uncle have been... could
he have been looking for treasure too?

All the research that I've done,

the Aztecs would've
put their treasures

back into the mines
that they came out of.

Do you think that
would be something

that your uncle Roy would've
been looking for as well?

So he could be responsible
for some of the shafts

and some of the
things that we've found

where it's obvious
original hand digging,

and then you can see
where it was iron dug

and then getting
into more modern.

Very possibly something that
your uncle would've been doing.

He spent a lot of time up there.

He would not have done that

if he wasn't really getting
onto something, would he?

If Roy was so secretive,
your uncle was something else.

There he is.

So that's Uncle Roy.

Chris: You think he thought
about treasure and everything

till the day he died?

Kevin: The more Emmett
started to talk about Roy.

He locked into that area that
we're in right now for a reason.

Why do you think your
Uncle Roy was so secretive?

The tunnel that Chris was in,

no miner would've dug that.

A shaft that has no
business being there.

I think the biggest realization
that I had out of all of this today

after talking with Emmett,
hearing about Roy,

is that pit I think
holds something for us,

we've just gotta
figure out what it is.

And it's gonna be a lot
more than a tobacco tin.

Mom, Dad, do you
guys got a copy?

- Yes, we do, son.
- Derrick: All right.

So we made it up
to the water glyph.

I have Keith in position.

Narrator: The Dillman family have
hired mountaineering expert Keith Howells

to rappel below the water glyph,

or what Dan calls a
sacred water stone.

Dan: After discovering
the sacred water stone,

it just fits right with our
previous experiences

of what my grandfather
has discovered

in Johnson Canyon in '82.

And with that, below it,

my grandfather
said about 40 feet,

that we may discover
some kind of opening,

some kind of tunnel system.

But it also could
be the entrance

to the treasure chamber.

We may find that as well.

Hey, Keith, you doing
all right over there?

- Yeah, doing well.
- Cool. You find a good, solid spot?

Yeah, we've got some
really good anchors.

This tree's gonna
work really great.

I think I'm right over
the top of that crevice

right down there that
you were talking about.

Derrick: The hope
is we find the tunnel,

we find a cave, something
that leads into a bigger chamber,

maybe even into the cliff
itself. That's the grand scale.

On a smaller scale, even
if we find some artifacts...

What people have
found in other areas,

they'll find evidence
of residence,

so anything like
that we can find

will be a win for us today.

Keith: We're off
to the races now.

Dan: So we're sending Keith
down the face of the canyon,

right down the
face of the cliff.

And what's so important
right now is capturing data.

We need photos, we need video.

I need anything that
he can capture on film

and camera for us

because I know
what I'm looking for.

And so it's important
that I get that data back

and I examine it thoroughly.

Make sure you got
a visual on Keith.

I can't see him
from the angle I'm at,

and just wanna make sure we
have eyes on him at all times.

I see him right there.

Keith: I'm just locking off.

There's a couple
ledges right here

that I can get down
to that are pretty wide.

I think I'll be able to
stand pretty good on them.

Hey, Keith, how deep does
it look like that opening goes?

Keith: This crevice
that I'm at right now,

I can see some rock fall that
has come down into this crevice,

but it looks like
I might be able

to tuck up underneath
there a little ways.

All right, sounds good.

Keith: It looks like this
crevice goes back aways.

There's lots of rock fall,

but it looks like if I
go down just a little bit,

I should be able to squeeze...

It might be a little skinny
for someone my size,

but I might be able to
look back there a little ways.

Dropped down to this
lower ledge down here.

This crevice looks a lot
bigger. It kind of undercuts.

I'll see what's
right in that one.

Dan: If there's a hole,
if there's an opening,

then there may be a pathway,

or they're purposely covered
back up and closed up

so that one wouldn't even think

it's something that
you can crawl into.

Keith: There's a nice
platform right down here

that I was able to stand on.

Pretty good size,
so I'm gonna look

back into this crevice here.

It kind of goes back.

That sacred water
stone right there,

and with what grandpa told us,

there's probably
something here for us to find.

Keith: It doesn't look
entirely natural. I don't know.

It doesn't look like
any of the other ledges

and cliff faces that
are right along here.

Hey, Keith, let me know
what you're seeing up there.

Keith: This crack
goes back quite a bit,

and lots of rocks and
stuff have fallen down

and definitely keeps going back.

I'm gonna try and squeeze
into this crevice just a little bit.

It kind of opens up down here
lower and then tucks back aways.

Do you think if you took the backpack
off, you could fit in there better?

Yeah, if I take
the backpack off,

I should be able to
squeeze back a little bit.

All right, I'm seeing
an opening up here.

I'm gonna get down here a little bit and
check it out and see how deep it goes.

There's a crevice, and it looks
like it goes back further in there.

It goes back at least four or five
feet before I can't see anymore.

I can't see all the
way back there though.

Narrator: The Dillman
team is exploring

a crevice under the water glyph

in search of a possible
chamber entrance.

Keith: I can't see all the
way back there though.

Looks like it might widen
up in there a little bit further,

but I can't quite tell
with how dark it is.

I can see a spot where it
would go underneath here,

but I'm a little worried about just my
footing and how this rock is feeling,

and I'm underneath a whole
bunch of kind of loose rock.

Definitely be careful and
don't go too far, actually.

Try to just get the images. So just take
some video, take some pictures, man.

Safety right now is important.

Keith: It got real narrow,
too narrow for me,

and it goes back a little ways.

It just goes from there.
There's lots of fallen rocks.

A lot of this rock
seems kind of loose.

Dan: Let's get
out of there, man.

You got rocks above
you and below you.

We've gotta figure
out our next steps,

- so get out of there.
- Keith: Yeah. Thanks, bud.

Dan: So we need to
take all of this data,

the photos, the video, and
we need to look through it.

We need to see if
it in fact is showing

that we've got something
worthy of investigating further.

Gabriel: This stuff is amazing.
Look at all these bones here.

Looks like a T-Rex right there.

Narrator: Gabriel
and his father Ramon

are on their way to
meet with an archeologist

to have a recent find examined.

- It's good to see you again.
- Yeah, nice to see you again.

While digging in the Fire Pit,

they unearthed what they
believe to be a piece of pottery.

If it dates back to
the conquistadors,

it could be further evidence that
they are digging in the right area.

Gabriel: We found something out in
the desert that I'd like your opinion on.

This piece right here really
intrigued me, you know?

It was something that
I'd never seen before.

Huh.

- Where'd you say you find it?
- Kind of central New Mexico.

But, um...

It doesn't break.

You know what it is?

Yeah, a crucible is to melt
some kind of ore in there.

Correct.

That seems pretty small
to me to be a crucible.

What would they use
something like that for?

That was only used
for just sampling.

Oh.

- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.

Right.

Mm-hmm.

Gabriel: We know that
cousin Johnny found a gold bar,

and we just found a crucible

on the spot that we
believe he was digging.

You know, I think that
we're onto something.

Is it safe to say that there's probably
gold bars buried throughout the Southwest?

If they were pouring
gold bars on this site,

they had to have a
place to store them.

They would've buried it deep,

and we're gonna need
all of our equipment now

to dig down and find out.

Narrator: Next on "Lost
Gold of the Aztecs"...

Chris: We think there's a grave.

We're gonna first figure
out if it is a crime scene.

Obviously, if it is, the
whole world's gonna change.

- Is that a bone?
- Yeah.

Gabriel: I'm bringing
in all the equipment

because we found
some really hard evidence

that the Spanish were here.

A little tricky to get
this thing up in this pit.

Dan: Today we're
bringing in a geophysicist.

So what we found is an area
that could potentially be a chamber.

This is big. This
looks like it right here.

Dan: Just finding a portion
of Montezuma's treasure...

Hey, Dad, you wanna come
check this out?

Finding one artifact in Utah...

This looks like
it's a massive chamber.

Would rewrite history.